is-station

[quiet mural]

smh get better

[errant siren]

🥹

[quiet mural]

but count me in if you wanna spit on is3

I will agree 100%

[earnest shuttle]

Hating on OOC

[errant siren]

I need Izumik and Skadi D18

🥹

[quiet mural]

piss is not recommended

wym i get frozen bro

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/beelzebub-granblue-fantasy-chaos-legion-truth-nuke-gbf-gif-18361840956513079255

enlightment - best is3 mechanic

you will never see it after d3

[earnest shuttle]

[quiet mural]

[sly harness]

Thanks, but not really, like I said badges are kinda slop 🥀

[quiet mural]

ok I'm just gonna find j*ck

slop tier player

[sly harness]

Surprisingly they show up if you are going for a no feed and picking Caerula Arbor

But ye, poorly implemented mechanic

[faint rampart]

atleast you did it on d15 and not d12
+experience with playing diff squads

[rich thorn]

ye, they can show up

but you need to be at 100 light

and they are still random

[faint rampart]

seen too many people flex their medals and its all done on d12 which is kinda :ReallyMad:
||only for is6, idk about others||

[sly harness]

Usually people grind for them on d12, it always was a thing

[rich thorn]

and there is like 6 purchasable and 4 encounter drop light restore relics

[faint rampart]

🥀

[sly harness]

And most if not all of them were added in dlc2

[faint rampart]

getting medals for not even doing highest diff is

[rich thorn]

surely, we need d18 medals, so people complain more about stuff like this squad is unplayable, how the hell i will get trimm medal on it

[sly harness]

I did ed5 badges on the IS5 meta squads in d18 245 runs. Although I don't remember whether for the rest of them I played on d15 or d18

[narrow cosmos]

Is Raidian mod2 even worth it? It looks like such a massive hassle

Level 9 Wang just sounds like suffering

[errant siren]

It's not

Boss is fraud

Lol

Going to him might be only headache.

But fighting with Wang is

[narrow cosmos]

More like his support.
His ass spams like 30 Psudomhuts on the top lane

[errant siren]

The what?

I don't know I just Wis them lmao

Everything on top lane is nonexistent

[narrow cosmos]

Fair. I almost lost cos they suprise assaulted me. (I only just got my first clear of it yesterday on d0)

Wang himself was just "Lol lmao " tier fight

I litterally just dropped Hoederer on his head and -20000 -20000 -20000

[languid vault]

is3, what investigation equipment do I want to go?

also is ray a fine choice to draft or wisadel

[narrow cosmos]

A bit dependent what you like. It doesn't matter too much it's not that hard

Shrooms are good.

[languid vault]

kayy

[narrow cosmos]

Ray is good, but, Wiš'adel is Wiš'adel so choose her.

[languid vault]

fair

[narrow cosmos]

But yeah Ray will be more than enough

[languid vault]

whats better to draft actually, wisadel or exualter

for the start

cuz like one has smaller dp dps and the other has more dps, aoe+range, and self-utility

well both has good utility what am I saying

[sly harness]

Exu helps more with ground pressure (S2) and has better cycle

[languid vault]

right?

[sly harness]

Generally low difficulties/stuff like ed1 either of them won't make a big difference

For high end runs Exu2 is more impactful

[narrow cosmos]

Exu2 has a better start. Because E1 Exu is better than E1 Wisadel

[languid vault]

i see, well I am doing ed1 just farming for reward exp

[languid vault]

true..

[narrow cosmos]

If it's not high difficulty it litterally doesn't matter tho lol

Idk D0 vigil carry

[languid vault]

yeah xd

[narrow cosmos]

Also Exu2 has a lower DP cost which matters sometimes

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-abdulhamid-abdulhamid-payitaht-arknights-hoederer-hoederer-gif-6251402953423410502

[twilit parcel]

Im mad.

[forest orchid]

How helpful is sakiko to clarify compared to liberator guard?

[sly harness]

Weaker then Leizi probably will perform similar to Młynar

[open finch]

I heard from bait that sakiko is good operator

[open finch]

[faint rampart]

is the bait guy good player? help told me to not trust youtubers 🤔

[sly harness]

help vs average ak youtuber

[inland elbow]

the strongest worst advice giver in history vs the worst advice giver now

[sly harness]

[faint rampart]

oh no its the real Bait

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-twitch-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-gif-14094131424741016653

[woeful anchor]

i mean bait is an AK youtuber

🤫

[inland elbow]

My next video will be a drama ragebait vid calling out other youtubers fr

Next one after that will be a tier list

[quick steppe]

Why I was WRONG about Sakiko

[faint rampart]

we're suddenly on the good ending route

[narrow cosmos]

So I'm gonna try to get Raidian module upgrades. Does level 9 add anything that will stop me dropping Hoederer (S1 with Archetto probably) on his head and winning like I did the first time?

(Also, what's requirements for mod3?)

[sly harness]

The same but on d10

So by playing on d10 you can unlock lv3 instantly

[narrow cosmos]

Ima be real I haven't unlocked d10 yet lol

[sly harness]

So if you don't want to do Wang twice unlock d10 first

[narrow cosmos]

Does D10 add anything over D9 that might hurt me a lot?

[sly harness]

Also about Wang, he can be stalled even by Gummy and killed by anyone so drafting a better lane holder to kill dragons and other enemies and minimise need shields/LPs will be more important

[sly harness]

d10

Operators with talismans have reduced ATK, starting Max Life Points -2

Enemy buff: 7% (on d9 it is 6%)

So nothing bad

[narrow cosmos]

That's mildly annoying.

-2 lp means I can't buy as much but that's all lol

I'll do Archetto strats again. I like her a lot recently

Sakiko, Hoederer S1, Hoshigumalt S2, and Mon3tr probably

Anyone else good for Archetto abuse?

[sly harness]

I think Hoshi S2 kinda ass (especially in ed3), use S3

Using weaker skills just because Archetto synergy usually isn't a good thing to do

[woeful anchor]

bibeak

perma stun

🗣️

[crystal niche]

uh

why do i have this?

like why

im on d fucking 0

and theres a chance to get A DEBUFF?

IM ON 100 LIGHT

[sly harness]

I see a buff here

[quick steppe]

light is for rejections

[sly harness]

Extra vouchers, it is good

[brittle grove]

Call of we many, u are in luck

[sly harness]

Also RES? What is RES? What is arts? What are casters?

[quick steppe]

casters in is3…

[crystal niche]

no really

how tf do u get this

is it just chance

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/logos-arknights-arknights-picmix-logos-picmix-gif-342999901266511678

[crystal niche]

the fact that i just recruited him

[quick steppe]

[paper notch]

why logos when wang

curious

[nocturne cape]

wangs not a caster

[crystal niche]

where IS wang

[nocturne cape]

[paper notch]

unlucky

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

Why Logos when Durin

[paper notch]

if only wang was caster

:prayge:

[sly harness]

Then he would be bad, something like Eban ig

[faint rampart]

[crystal niche]

ok now this is a win

[faint rampart]

hope you meant eblana

[crystal niche]

[arctic panther]

why durin when pram

https://tenor.com/view/pramanix-gif-17514296915217368826

[sly harness]

Nah I can't see those balls being a real summons, he would just store balls like Mystic Casters

[sly harness]

Because they are probably not going for no feed

[paper notch]

oh like a 2026 version of eben s2?

would be interesting

[errant siren]

Pat the car

[faint rampart]

eben IS module allows him to store charges throughout the whole run and then release them on boss😴 trust

[arctic panther]

wait thats actually kind of peak(and busted)

[sly harness]

Like Phantom

[faint rampart]

8 refreshes (?)

[crystal niche]

this is useless for haruka yea

[sly harness]

Just don't activate her skill

[steel relic]

Does s2 not count

[slate hull]

not sure, I guess it depends on what counts as a target

[crystal niche]

idk

[slate hull]

because iirc s2 targets allies and then the enemy damage is like an extra part, but I can't be totally sure without testing it

[crystal niche]

[crystal niche]

can u uh test it cuz evidently i am not having any luck getting supp vouchers

[proven dagger]

@cold fjord @halcyon flame @open finch Bellone S3 with -ASPD unironically has stalling potential with the fact he doesn't attack and could cancel enemy attack animations

tech of the month

[open finch]

Imma be real I didn't touch ak revently

I should log on to pull

Heck

[quick steppe]

buckler is weird i think as long as the damage is sourced it counts

like how ange and gnosis IS mod can proc buckler on dot ticks

[proven dagger]

yeah during his s3 if he doesn't attack for more than 1 second he deploys

he can redeploy on the same tile too

hyper specific tech but

[sly harness]

But e.g. Exu2 S2 aspd steel won't work

[proven dagger]

still tech nonetheless

exu2 doesn't work

[sly harness]

And this is the only consistent source of it

[proven dagger]

he'd have to depend on environmental or state conditions for this

tech is tech

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[earnest shuttle]

[rich thorn]

how did you failed with trag and exu here?

[earnest shuttle]

Skill issue

[errant siren]

Boss doing funny run into bluebox

[steel relic]

Take the gamble
Conviction s2

[errant siren]

[rich thorn]

skill issue sounds more believable

[earnest shuttle]

It takes actual skill to fail with chalice over 50 ingots and all that drafts

[steel relic]

Tragodia just makes him do the funny run backwards

[rich thorn]

with sarkaz casters and that ursus bomber

[errant siren]

Go go Zealots

[rich thorn]

ye, but need to do that just in time

not so hard, but some fucking mobs can blow up the cat too early

[earnest shuttle]

uhh yeah thats what happened

[steel relic]

You dps him before he’s the last enemy on the map?

[rich thorn]

welp

with nowaday ops you can nuke his ass when he shows up

[earnest shuttle]

yea..

[rich thorn]

also, d8

so he is not so fatass

[earnest shuttle]

to be fair that was d8 and im pretty sure it could have vaporize his ass

[rich thorn]

yeah, i vaporized him on d12 with exu and saki

no chalice but 1 aspd foldatar

[earnest shuttle]

I had both chalice and 1 Sing

[rich thorn]

run was pretty mid afuk

funniest was with 3 aspd foldatars

btw

does eik ignores s3 trag cages during rush?

i believe he does

[midnight summit]

Since he becomes unblockable

Then he ignores

Just use s2

[arctic panther]

wouldnt that be yes if he’s unblockable

[midnight summit]

Trag s3 can't block unblockable

[inland elbow]

use my patented strat tm

[midnight summit]

[arctic panther]

then that would mean eik ignores the cages

[midnight summit]

Im pretty sure

[inland elbow]

https://youtu.be/1b-X2I64chw?si=6t1gEvbMUG6BKrZR

[midnight summit]

Oh i didn't read original question right

[inland elbow]

just lemuen bomb him 👍

[sly harness]

[rich thorn]

if only I got lemu....

🥀

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1430855406275788891/1430855418749386762/685fd837a55753072cf451d0.gif

[narrow cosmos]

bet

I actually have bibeak somewhat leveled up lol

[midnight summit]

S2m3

[sly harness]

[midnight summit]

[midnight summit]

LMFAOOO

Are you sure?

[narrow cosmos]

A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON SPIKED CHEST

Curse of Too Much AOE Damage. Shared with Wisadel

[midnight summit]

Also may i ask which debuff is piss color in is3

[inland elbow]

you can cure your operators d16 and above in is3

and it makes ur ops piss color

[narrow cosmos]

Lemuen became Lemon

[twilit parcel]

Become as piss

[crystal niche]

guys is3 bosky need 1 key right

[sly harness]

Yes

[crystal niche]

fuck

[sly harness]

Always save 1 key

[crystal niche]

well uh

thats not what i did

[manic flint]

where and how do i find this stage

[sly harness]

f1 or f2 Bear stage. Just restart f1 and go for encounters until you get it

[crystal niche]

holy

[rich thorn]

time to make off rec team

[crystal niche]

what skill

[rich thorn]

s3 ofk

[crystal niche]

wisadel s1?

thoughts?

[rich thorn]

not worth

[crystal niche]

ines s1?

[rich thorn]

still not worth

[crystal niche]

well this is all ive got

[rich thorn]

hoshi and haru is enuff to max up cheeto range

[rich thorn]

also welp

[crystal niche]

isnt it max 3

so with ray too

[rich thorn]

saki + cheeto best sebian lex team

[faint rampart]

haru🤔

[crystal niche]

uh what

[rich thorn]

i have a dementia, is it counts cheeto herself or no

🥹

[faint rampart]

^

[crystal niche]

probably

she is gonna be deployed

so yes

[rich thorn]

the thing is

with tons of aspd

s2 wis is better

[faint rampart]

haruka is auto rec no

[rich thorn]

with not enuff, s3 better

[crystal niche]

i dont HAVE tons of atspd

[rich thorn]

s1 fells off

[crystal niche]

huh

wdym

oh

yea shes all auto rec

[rich thorn]

idk, but all 3 haru skills are auto rec

[crystal niche]

didnt know what rec meant then thought for a sec

[sly harness]

ASPD is not as important as actually being able to punch through enemies DEF

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

Because her DPH on S2 without like Hand is ass

[rich thorn]

other are ass i think

trag s1 cope

[faint rampart]

yeah so she wouldn't be doing anything for cheeto or im schizoing out

[sly harness]

I would just Saki + Archetto. You probably don't need the extra range and Hoshi S2 in IS3 sounds so ass

[sly harness]

Degen S2

And Nara S2

Are also decent

Maybe even Ela S2

[rich thorn]

then thorns s3 too lol

[crystal niche]

well shes my healers

[sly harness]

Nah I am talking about real synergies

[crystal niche]

yes its "healer 's'" cause shes doing more than one job

[sly harness]

Or Fia and Irene if you are a birds knights player

[rich thorn]

yeah, support what heals more than healers
supports and specialists what dealing more dmg than guards and casters

sounds ok

[faint rampart]

😵‍💫

[rich thorn]

sorry

i wanted to say saki

🥀

hoshi and saki

[faint rampart]

grrrr made me doubt myself+existential crisis

[sly harness]

Why waste Hoshi for that just use Steward

[rich thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1411972774423166997/Lin_ball_spin.gif

[sly harness]

Then Hoshi can be useful with S3

[crystal niche]

not enough deployment slots

[sly harness]

Hoshi can be just a helidrop 200k arts and retreat because mechanics

Do you even need the extra range?

[crystal niche]

ah fuck

[rich thorn]

depends on stage methink

[crystal niche]

i forgot to use dices to do my regional contract cause i had too much fun with cheeto

[rich thorn]

can say there is like at least 3? where extra range helps

this 3

[sly harness]

But in all of them Hoshi S2 will be ass

[crystal niche]

less of it helps and more of " oh fuck i cover the entire map now i win"

[rich thorn]

menace prob fine

cuz enemies are still stealth

and she eat dmg anyways there

(yes i know he have ines)

[sly harness]

In the first one you only need +2 (so Chetto + some)
The remaining two extra range can be nice but also isn't necessary. Targets there aren't stationary they will just enter Archetto attack range

[rich thorn]

Ofk don't need all, it's just theoretically

Still fun to see hoshi spin

[sly harness]

my mission is to spread knowledge about the wise use of Archetto IS module 😇

[inland elbow]

the wise use is no use at all

[sly harness]

I had a feeling this was going to happen

[gaunt bay]

[quick steppe]

the woke crowd is trying to deny its use in is5

as a sakiko battery

[carmine token]

obv an irene battery 🧑‍💻

[open girder]

As a challenge would it be even remotely possible to finish IS6 with just the Special Squad? Could be difficulty 0

[carmine token]

???

[rich thorn]

???

oh got it

[open girder]

The 5 reserve operators

[rich thorn]

only with reserve ops + raidian from that squad

prob yes, just because raidian and d0

but with updated ver ofk

[open girder]

iirc you only get Raidian on d2

[rich thorn]

still think yes

maybe even yeah, even easier on d2 with her

[quick steppe]

given that you can uh

finish the game with 0 operators

as long as you ling loop

if you get lucky enough you can do it with special squad too ig

[torn mica]

You have to unlock Raidian's E2 to unlock that feature and you can only unlock Raidian's E2 by beating D2.

[crystal niche]

how to lose light besides leaking

[quick steppe]

encounters/collectibles that say lose light

and then finishing a fight at less than half health

[rich thorn]

but for what

[crystal niche]

well i kinda need to lose light

to gain light

[rich thorn]

[quick steppe]

gaining how 💀

[crystal niche]

relic

[open girder]

Oh ye, I know, just saying that to start with Raidian it needed to be at least d2 and maaaaybe the difficulty increase from 0 to 2 might make it harder for the reserve team

[rich thorn]

there is only like 2 or 3 fucking relics what consistently refilling light

and one of them is ed4 encounter one

[sly harness]

You can win a run in IS6 without operators at all

[rich thorn]

another one is piss dice roll one

😭

[crystal niche]

ok and aspd relics are just as rare

and i have both of them

[proven dagger]

im bringing Index Apprentice Don Quixote to Sentinel

[open girder]

I'm kinda impressed, how does that work?

[rich thorn]

better take fraudsang and just furioso his ass

or what that hole have

[sly harness]

Probably as said here @open girder

[quick steppe]

ya just highroll like gas

[open girder]

Ye but what is Ling Loop?

[quick steppe]

ling's leisure node is very funny

if your coffer is built right you can infinitely get resources from it

[rich thorn]

triple the fun with tourist squad

[proven dagger]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jJJn0HK4DcLEjzxhVFjjrXgkwdmsMzz154xTyQfv16g/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.514a2rid8dfu

[quick steppe]

so you just need to reset until you can get to the node safely
and then -200 at the shop for your startup capital

and then leak the entire rest of the run with your infinite life points

[sly harness]

I haven't seen the no ops clear for IS6. But e.g. in IS5 you could abuse Safe Houses with +3 Shields on entry upgrade to win without operators

[open girder]

This feels like forbidden knowledge

[quick steppe]

its not exactly reliable 💀
mostly because every attempt needs you to -200 the deposit before checking the bosky

and even if you're at 999 thats like
5 attempts for a very small percentage

[rich thorn]

but how you gain 1500 if not flower or tourist number of coins?

[quick steppe]

ok good question

we will simply buy cocoon from the first shop

or get it from a fight

[rich thorn]

ok

just highroll

got it

[quick steppe]

only a matter of time

:)

[crystal niche]

uh what

im already blind

[rich thorn]

fokin legend

[crystal niche]

wdym the first wish node will blind me

[quick steppe]

no the blind is already there

[crystal niche]

i just started the floor and im already blind

[quick steppe]

good luck finding the wish

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

At least this floor has a Wish Fulfiled node

[crystal niche]

i have a 33% chance of going on the right path

[rich thorn]

lukas

[sly harness]

One is guaranteed at the end of the floor

[rich thorn]

how ass is D16 IS3 if compare to D15?

[open girder]

Ye, ofc, but looks like something cool to do once or twice, just to see it working

[rich thorn]

i dont want to suffer to check that shit

[quick steppe]

it gets better tbh

[crystal niche]

i didnt know that

[quick steppe]

d16 lets you cure and evolve ops

which is actually interesting

[sly harness]

The stats jump is noticeable but shouldn't be really that bad

iirc someone was playing relicless to climb to d18 when it was released and only after d17 they started to notice a more significant difference

[inland elbow]

d15 is interesting too!

[faint rampart]

playing relicless to climb for high diff, maybe i should do that thanks:run:

[sly harness]

[crystal niche]

well then

i got lessing in is 3

[tired storm]

i just finished is5 run with 200 ingots and golden chalice. i should’ve attempted the theresis and theresa boss

[prime mountain]

This is every is5 run btw

[tired storm]

with my luck it’s about 1/5

[prime mountain]

There is no luck involved

Grab lamp > rob cannot > get free chalice

You are guaranteed

it is dum

[rich thorn]

But what if he was playing talons

[faint rampart]

omg furrilo is alive

good luck on your tangtang pulls :YA:

[worldly laurel]

I should try talon runs

Elusive merc my beloved

[prime mountain]

Huh

endfield who?

[prime mountain]

Yeah sorry I got consumed by sts2

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/tangtang-mifu-endfield-strangled-arknights-gif-2265947537331565601

[faint rampart]

🥀 still waiting for sakiband run

[gentle pagoda]

I forgot how disgusting this map was with no dp relics

[sly harness]

No melee units is a bigger problem I see there

[faint rampart]

sees two casters💀

[quick steppe]

accurately dodged most of the solutions 🥀

leizi/sakiko/wisadel would be a great help

[faint rampart]

~~sash range😋 ~~

[gentle pagoda]

I have 1 of those and she's in the bin

[sly harness]

Unironically even Yu would do something

[gentle pagoda]

would've been nice to get melee vouchers for sure

[open girder]

Does Raidian also shines on the other IS?

[sly harness]

Nope

[quick steppe]

if sa could survive i think you plop him in the middle and he clears a load of pieces

should be nice

[sly harness]

She is mainly good because of here proficiencies

And they only work in IS6

[open girder]

Is it the same for the other IS operators? Like Tinman and etc

[gentle pagoda]

yeah, I didn't get enough dp so I was already trying to patch up holes with summons so I couldn't drop him until too late

[sly harness]

Other IS operators are bad in general

Only Tin Man is nice but still rather niche

His value mostly comes down to extra Toil Limit

[gentle pagoda]

this is a miserable run though, half my squad is e1 6* because I just can't get vouchers I need, on floor 5 this is fun

also got the -sp and +dp curses

[sly harness]

tbf the picks here were far from stuff that can carry a low roll run

[gentle pagoda]

those tend to be my best options

saga is filler

[sly harness]

Also I think I see the +100% ATK around red boxes, taking advantage of it would work great

[quick steppe]

5 star agents probably do work here

surfer + cantabile duo might be the play here

[rich thorn]

I cant really see, but is that a chen2 without -dp mod? 💀

[prime mountain]

prob e1?

[gentle pagoda]

cantabile is useless on this map, she gets a talisman instantly and folds

[rich thorn]

or died

true, e1

[sly harness]

You can place her either next to the red box and make her attack the balls

Or on the left next to the balls if you have some HP

[faint rampart]

canta uses s1 mostly?

[sly harness]

Yep

[rich thorn]

s2 maybe fine, but with ammo relics

[gentle pagoda]

ah, for this map that sounds like a good idea yeah

[faint rampart]

📝

[sly harness]

Both Agents (Canta, Surfer) almost always use S1

[sly harness]

Sounds fake...

Especially since ed3 hits you with - SP

[gentle pagoda]

she always uses s2 because it's ammo based

[sly harness]

Nope

[quick steppe]

not activating on deploy is a crime

thus s1 is prefered

[rich thorn]

always? nah

[sly harness]

S1 still much better DP generation

[rich thorn]

just sometimes

[quick steppe]

the edge case is is5 frozen mystery bosky tbh

[gentle pagoda]

the damage is more important usually

[rich thorn]

nope

[faint rampart]

😢

[rich thorn]

agents are dp printers

[sly harness]

Why deal damage with an agent?

You use them for DP

[gentle pagoda]

I could just use myrtle then

[quick steppe]

doesn't activate on deploy

thus criminal

[sly harness]

Again -SP

[rich thorn]

agents scaling with aspd

more aspd = more dp

myrtle cant do that

😭

[sly harness]

Also the big thing for Agents in IS6 is that in most maps you have some stationary tanky targets like Statuegeist

[gentle pagoda]

that sounds fair for ed3

[sly harness]

So positioning and getting a lot of value from them is very easy

[quick steppe]

im thinking of a use for caster vouchers and im coming up blank rn

[sly harness]

Amiya

[quick steppe]

ya i can use the caster voucher to grab a non caster medicmiya 😇

buff casters when

[faint rampart]

🌲 get eblana

😇

[quick steppe]

lowk snipers too actually

what do they even do

other than wisadel

[sly harness]

Or even a melee body... Surely with +100% ATK she would be able to lane hold in clarity 🥀

[quick steppe]

its bad when your next option is like

narantuya

💀

needs buffs too ngl

[rich thorn]

cheetos is sesbian saki friend

[sly harness]

If you really need you ground pressure you can Rosmontis...

Although not that important in IS6

May always good

[quick steppe]

may and maybe greyy2

[rich thorn]

also hey, chen2 with -dp mode is fun to play

[sly harness]

tbf Narantuya is pretty nice

[quick steppe]

being the big hits off of a sniper voucher

🥀

narantuya stock 📈📈

ho ol stock 📈📈

[sly harness]

She quite reliably can lane hold in ed3

[quick steppe]

things are quite desperate when its im thinking of grabbing a selector for narantuya or hool 💀

[sly harness]

And cope Sui solution

[rich thorn]

🥀

[sly harness]

Being an IS hardcore player and preparing for that 1 in 100 run when a given character can be important be like

[rich thorn]

just dont buy it then

ez

[quick steppe]

its just so loooong until naran enters shop

actually

[rich thorn]

its like

[quick steppe]

ho ol is maybe in the shop soon(copium)

[rich thorn]

picking hoe for gvg is5

[quick steppe]

hg please make it happen

[faint rampart]

very normal behaviour 😋

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1336340425711026237.gif?size=20&animated=true&name=hoe

[rich thorn]

tf

[sly harness]

Every Lamp comp can use Hoe

How broken is not having a Hand

[rich thorn]

ill try to joke

[quick steppe]

hoe lowk not required tho

😔

[rich thorn]

NOW WIS DOESNT HAVE IT TOO

[quick steppe]

like he's almost luxury tier most of the time i feel...

unless you're tacfort

but actually maybe not even tacfort now that they have more real supporters and defenders

[gentle pagoda]

carried by SA

[faint rampart]

not having a maxxed hoe on your acc makes you look like a fraud is5 player, thats why get him😢

[rich thorn]

Ela is best is5 lamp unit

🥹

[sly harness]

Where do I get my Ethan and Gravel

🥀

[rich thorn]

in shop ofk

[gentle pagoda]

got some stacked relics

[faint rampart]

💀

[gentle pagoda]

I'm just gonna try to cheese the fight

[quick steppe]

just dont deploy too much

esp not summons

and you should be fine

[gentle pagoda]

summons count for the boss pellets?

[quick steppe]

should be

[rich thorn]

yes

[gentle pagoda]

well, that wasn't enough, lapp did all she could but nobody else mattered

dp was dead in the water

(yes I did use s1)

maybe if I had any aspd, or damage, that would've worked

or hp

insult to injury

[sly harness]

You had HP Lakebed Aegis and 2 stacks of stir fry should be quite a bit

Not having a proper healer was problematic

Shu needs S3

[gentle pagoda]

perfumer did the job fine

healer wasn't the issue here

[sly harness]

Ye but generally you want someone who can cover both top and bottom range tile

While placed in the middle

Like Purestream

[gentle pagoda]

my ops getting one shot by the boss, and having only one dps from no dp was the issue

[sly harness]

The low budget option

[slate hull]

did you wipe to ed3?

[paper notch]

seems like you didnt open correctly?

[gentle pagoda]

lapp cleared a ton of the map alone, but couldn't handle the shield waves

[sly harness]

I wonder how the -HP stacks. Since having like +100% should be enough to avoid one shots

[gentle pagoda]

I didn't have the +60%

[gentle pagoda]

opening was good, issue was sustain

[sly harness]

Also remembering about deployment order and being mindful of boss atak range is important if your HP isn't sufficient

[sly harness]

but at this point you just bait and block the boss with Shu and he does nothing

[gentle pagoda]

e1 shu? she died

I should have kept SA s2 instead of moving to s3

[sly harness]

Even if the -25% HP is multiplicative she shouldn't get oneshotted

The boss has 2221 arts ATK

Shu has 10 RES and 2313 base HP on e1

[gentle pagoda]

you forgot the 3 enemy casters

[slate hull]

I feel like passing the pathfinder fight is often harder than doing ed3, it is pretty much a check to make sure you are ready for the boss

so I am surprised you passed that and ed1, but couldn't do ed3

[sly harness]

I feel like ed2 is the hardest part of ed3

[gentle pagoda]

ed1 is easily cheesed

pathfinder can be tanked with hp

[sly harness]

Although low roll ed2 often feels more winnable then ed3

[gentle pagoda]

it was just a miserable run that didn't stand a chance on the boss

[slate hull]

yeah, ed2 has mechanics you can play around with, ed3 is more of a stat check

[sly harness]

ed2 can be solved by a perfect execution when ed3 is a bit more of a stat check

[short zenith]

Which of these 4* ops and their skills are worth using the mastery ticket on?

Mainly for IS

[sly harness]

Purestream both
Gummy S1
May both
Gravel S2

[remote badger]

why its so compressed

[short zenith]

No idea lmao, i just cropped it and it turned out that way for some reason

[faint rampart]

discord edit?

[remote badger]

what's ur screen resolution

its suspectable

[sly harness]

discord edit sucks for some reason

[paper notch]

which skill does phantom use most?

[remote badger]

1 or 2

oh

nvm

[rich thorn]

love then google play crashes at f5 of the run

steam pc client wen

🚬

[arctic panther]

this is why mobile is better

[uneven lintel]

If ur using IS mod phantom you'll mostly be using S2

S3 has rare uses, like no feed jellyfish playing

[paper notch]

just asking cuz i dont feel like wasting more resources on phantom

working on s2m3 rn

[uneven lintel]

You won't draft him anyway, spec too crowded, leave on sl7

[paper notch]

it's mainly to have a chance to try him out in the future

see what it's like

thought he looked interesting from the low-ops i watched. ofc that's like peak performance but ye

[uneven lintel]

[gray pulsar]

looking forward to shileds's recreation of the 5 op sentinel clear soon

[remote badger]

[eternal wadi]

Im doing is2 hellagur monthly squad what the hell is homeland remnants?

[gray pulsar]

floor 3

[eternal wadi]

Oh ok im done then

[arctic panther]

you still need to get to f5 to get all of the dialogue

[proven dagger]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1ypcXz3EG6

[paper notch]

why is demetri lobotimized

[arctic panther]

wait does irene is mod let her auto deploy?!?!

[proven dagger]

ye

[gaunt bay]

That does not look like d18

🥀

[faint rampart]

finally making units for us d10 warriors😋

[paper notch]

i mean

with whatever relics he had im sure you can beat whatever difficulty

[steel relic]

it's a deep investigation

the 4SP regen is an enhanced enlightenment

[paper notch]

that explains demitri not losing a 1v1 to a single thorn ball

[gaunt bay]

i dont think theres enough relics in IS3 to make d18 bosses do that little damage

[paper notch]

ye. i meant more the damage and sp gen

[woeful anchor]

why is cynick shilling slop

💢

[steel relic]

Is this rhetorical

[woeful anchor]

no

[wary prawn]

what is decision node in wonderland is6

[errant siren]

They finally marked End2 Batterfly for you.

[wary prawn]

oh my god lets go

[errant siren]

So you wouldn't end up clicking it accidentally and fucked up this exit in the process

[blazing hemlock]

Why does Medic Amiya seem to be a popular pick for IS? Isn't she kinda mid because S2 is one-time per battle use?

[flint token]

game is showing me this on f1 shop knowing fullwell i cant rob it 💔

[errant siren]

Class Werewolf, for my opinion.

[blazing hemlock]

What does that mean

[flint token]

amiya good early game because stages are short

and she can fulfill different roles as needed

[errant siren]

You want melee, switch to Guard.

Etc.

[blazing hemlock]

Wait, what how?

[errant siren]

But yeah, One time skill use doesn't matter if fights are short.

[errant siren]

Wdym how?

You have Amiya E2?

[blazing hemlock]

Yeah

[errant siren]

You cleared Ep8 or Ep14?

[blazing hemlock]

Does changing my actual amiya change the amiya in is too?

[errant siren]

YES

[blazing hemlock]

Ah damn

[errant siren]

[remote badger]

life is good

[errant siren]

And she also splits on several vouchers moreover

[blazing hemlock]

Yeah I've noticed that while playing

[errant siren]

You have Guard - you can recruit MedicAmiya instead

[blazing hemlock]

Is she worthy to actually raise though? I just have her at E2L1

[remote badger]

med form

caster form s3m3 mod3

(yes there is a fucking reason to use her s3)

[inland elbow]

She's good for is5 because all her forms have strong use cases. Medic for spine breaking, caster for boss dps, and guard for when you need ground presence

[blazing hemlock]

What about is6?

[inland elbow]

I'm not particularly well versed in is6, but she's used in a lot of minimal solves for f2 bosky

Probably because of her flexibility and wide voucher availability

[worn falcon]

If I say use a foldartals that adds a free OP to an recruitment event, but the node is non-combat. That just wastes it?

[errant siren]

Yes

Unless it gives a voucher

Then it will have an effect

[woeful anchor]

not necesarily

if u get an encounter that allows u to recruit an op it works

or if its a shop u can buy vouchers there to work

or if u choose a combat option in an encounter it also works

[split void]

The 2nd time in my life. No Wiw in 2F

[surreal field]

Does Sakiko (and other Lords) count as melee or ranged?

[errant siren]

Melee.

This classification is tile placement.

[surreal field]

I think you guys said it's about tiles, right?

Yea, that

[errant siren]

Low tile is always melee
High is ranged.

[gaunt bay]

ela

[errant siren]

Ela is Ranged btw, since initial tile is High one.

Pushers and Pullers are also Ranged type, note that. Despite the logic of deployment everywhere.

[surreal field]

Just got a relic that gives Guards 2 SP after each attack and Sakiko is... well... You guys get it, but it looks crazy when you first encounter it

[gaunt bay]

how broken is bloodbath!

[errant siren]

Bait

[sly harness]

Me when Ente bleed or the lighting balls lingering after Leizi S3 triggers bloodbath

[heavy pumice]

so.... any thought on bellone for IS?
or some showcase shit about him in IS

[sly harness]

To determine the meta relevance of a character in IS, we usually have to wait a few weeks or even longer

[heavy pumice]

i see
just wanna see his performance solely with relics interaction

is he scale really well or nah

[onyx sinew]

Can I post IS6 gameplay that is still not in GLB?

[woeful knot]

yes

[onyx sinew]

Alr

This mode is funny

That the boss just lay down before go out the red box

[remote badger]

all flowers

[onyx sinew]

Yea

That mode turn every tongbao you toss in to flower coin

I just toss all my coupon into that

[surreal field]

WF nodes are lower value than Floor 1 regular operations, right?

Also, do WF scale with floor?

[sinful sparrow]

Define “scale”

[surreal field]

Are they any different if you enter them on Floor 1 or Floot 5, as in do they have different collectible pools depending on floor?

[sinful sparrow]

No

[west quarry]

wf nodes? do u mean bosky?

[surreal field]

"Wish Fulfilled"

[west quarry]

Oh

yea no take combat over that usually

floor 1 always take path with 2 combats if possible

generally path towards pathfinder and combat/e.combat

[surreal field]

Got a priority list of "WiW (or whatever Shu Conciousness node is called) > PF > Combat > else >> Feng Shui"

[west quarry]

thats fine

feng shui is also fine

alot of ops solve it

namely ethan, ente, even raidian s2 can work

just place the roadblocks correctly

[surreal field]

Don't have Ascalon or Mizuki and don't want to buy Ethan because of his character design

[west quarry]

like so

wdym u dont want to buy because of his char design

hes free

just use him man

[surreal field]

Oh, I've been using different configuration and didn't know Raidian S2 solves it

[west quarry]

you need abit of dp gen or some will leak with raidian s2

point her s2 up on the far right side

then a few pointing at the enemies on the left

her alone wont solve the stage you need someone else to help usually

[surreal field]

Playing Nicheknights niche defined as "no Ethan, Spot or those collab characters from Dungeon something if they ever rerun"

[west quarry]

entel is also a great matchup here

[ashen cradle]

Yo, I kinda am struggling spamming emergency ops with talons + ingots (I'm using the blueprints squad strat for ingots squad)

What am I doing wrong 😭😭😭

[sly harness]

What do you mean by Blueprint Squad strat?

You are refreshing everything even normal combats?

And where do you usually die? Is it f4, earlier, maybe bosses?

What difficulty and what endings are you running

Talons + Ingots is rather hard, you have to learn a lot from practice (about drafting and pathing) and giving generally tips is hard since every run will be quite different

[ashen cradle]

I usually die at End 4 Boss due to lack of artifacts

[woeful knot]

avg

[ashen cradle]

Wait, you're not supposed to do that?

[sly harness]

Ye ed4 is the biggest stat check

[sly harness]

Nope, especially when the company has plans

Shops are your main source of useful collectibles and not the random drops

[ashen cradle]

So which do you usually reset?

[sly harness]

Non combats nodes and nodes without spines

[ashen cradle]

Including safehouse?

[ashen cradle]

Also, how do you ascertain this?

[sly harness]

Yes, unless you need squad size, plans etc.

Hoping for one of those is unreliable but if two or more possible rewards are satisfying you may gamble on them

[sly harness]

Which nodes have Spines? Either you remember that or use some reference sheet

[ashen cradle]

Never mind, got this yeet

Aighte, thank ya. I was literally dumb refreshing everything 😭

[sly harness]

Some other tips:
f1, take 2 combat + encounter (for Talons) and refresh shop into combat (burn shop refresh at the beginning of the floor)

Then take shop on f2

f2 shops are better (they have two vouchers per page)

Look out for rare collectibles upgrade for shop

This one is very strong

And helps you get the good collectibles from shops

if the f3 path with Lost and Found is shitty you can prioritise Bosky over it

You will gamble to get a good Lost and Found later (usually you can afford it since Talons allows for more vertical and refreshes)

[sly harness]

btw there are no stages from the expansions here, but you can also find information about Spines, e.g. on tomimi.dev

Or on IS central https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/stages/

[flint token]

Epochal gaps my beloved 5 spikes anomaly

highroll 101: get epochal gaps

[sly harness]

f4 is so ass, you can highroll epochal and win or get all the 0 Spines ones

[ashen cradle]

How do you beat the stage with W and everyone else invisible btw? It always kills my runs

[flint token]

you reroll it

fuckass stage not worth doing

[errant siren]

Ah, Elusive Mercs?

[flint token]

unless you giga highroll on survivability

[onyx sinew]

What does it do?

[sly harness]

here is a solution with Rosmo
https://youtu.be/YWIeBKHYUkQ?si=_s5lZn2jKDhsc1Wb

[flint token]

it doesnt have spike either

[sly harness]

Rosmo is a great carry for Talons (Wisadel better but...)

[errant siren]

Idk, but I bet everything will work for Chong battle.

[flint token]

anti wis map but best solution is wis anyway

gg!

[sly harness]

One is for the base variant the other for harder ones

[flint token]

Well maybe homeless guy mogs it better

[sly harness]

"anti wis" . You man "anti average wisadel user map"

[onyx sinew]

Oh

I just click all the first

[sly harness]

Something like tiers of Amiya but you get to choose

[onyx sinew]

Guess I will click to the hardest in the next run

This mode is insane than you exploit by using Ling node

Sadly

It don't give any level

[sly harness]

That is why you ban cheese strat and then go for d18

[onyx sinew]

Wait

Do you know how to encounter ending 4?

[sly harness]

Buy an item from the first Bosky shop you enter (it is guaranteed there) and then send an operator with new option in Scout

[onyx sinew]

Okay

Guess I need to toss more tongbao

[gaunt bay]

This draft….

[sly harness]

d0 draft

[onyx sinew]

Yeah...

Its not let me settings Difficulty

[errant siren]

Deeps and Monthlies are playing strictly on Zero Difficulty.

[sly harness]

Btw how slop are the deep investigations in IS6?

[errant siren]

Any IS.

[sly harness]

True but maybe there is at least 1 interesting like selbaF edisecanruF

[onyx sinew]

Idk?

[onyx sinew]

Btw this have a mode that turn every tongbao you toss into Risk Coin

And its... Kinda nightmare

[sly harness]

Sounds like a normal run tbf. Coffer fielded with Risk coins

[crystal niche]

uh

[sly harness]

That is the biggest issue with them, they just feel like normal runs (and what worse d0 runs)

[crystal niche]

wtf is this stage

[sly harness]

Boss

[crystal niche]

who

[sly harness]

Count to 5

[crystal niche]

patriot?

[crystal niche]

heh

wdym

[errant siren]

Walmart Faust.

[sly harness]

Maybe not to 5 (depends on difficulty and atk speed modifiers)

[errant siren]

Remember the Crossbow dude with global attack in 5-10?

That's him.

[sly harness]

Just bait the special atk

[crystal niche]

INVINCIBLE FOR 60 SECONDS?

[errant siren]

Yep

[errant siren]

That's not Invisible state

It's fine

[crystal niche]

heh

its the golden aura thing

right

[errant siren]

When he reaches bottom side of the map, he loses that

[sly harness]

Regardless he is in a rather unreachable area for this time

[errant siren]

This one has red/black square particles.

[sly harness]

And when he comes closer you can just kill him

[errant siren]

That's his Invincible mark

[crystal niche]

[sly harness]

He is the easiest one

It will be fine

[crystal niche]

eh

i hope so

[errant siren]

Yeah

[onyx sinew]

Welp

[crystal niche]

ive beaten frostnova so

[errant siren]

You don't wanna meet DedgeNova or Walmart Skullshatterer.

[crystal niche]

im hoping this is ez

[crystal niche]

ive beaten both of em

[errant siren]

Alr

[crystal niche]

this is the first time im facing a sniper tho

[errant siren]

They're much more harder in high diff

Skullshatterer is basically immortal in D18

And even I killed him

With +25% HP buff

[crystal niche]

[errant siren]

Thanks, Leavatain Formula

But still I beat him.

[sly harness]

Degen S2 + Archetto a relicless d18 solution

[errant siren]

After 20 minutes.

[crystal niche]

111 enemys damn

[sly harness]

Trash mobs

[errant siren]

Seriously, TF was that buff.

[errant siren]

Most of them are just Reunion troops.

[crystal niche]

yea

actually this is way easier damn

[errant siren]

We told ya

[sly harness]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qzETzyEBy/

[flint token]

malmart faust aka john pushover

[errant siren]

Just bait the shots from him and you're gud

[crystal niche]

walter revenants

[flint token]

the main threat is the frost drones

[woeful knot]

its the 100 enemies

[crystal niche]

yay i won

[woeful knot]

good job

[sly harness]

The boss skill oneshots even Kal's Mon3tr on d18

And out healing even the normal attacks is problematic

[errant siren]

Doesn't matter, I have metastasic ops

[onyx sinew]

Is Irene IS module good?

[surreal field]

Do nicheknight people finish IS6 with 4 stars and lower? Not on some crazy high roll, but somewhat consistently? Maybe on lower difficulties?

[woeful knot]

no

with absolute certainty

its no

[flint token]

metastatic yato my goat 🗣️

[sly harness]

4* was never consistent

Idk about 5*

The issue in IS6 is Bosky

[woeful knot]

my life goes like i think of a good idea with irene > i test it > shes ass > get disappointed > do it again

[flint token]

10/10 unit design

[sly harness]

And low rarities can't solve it reliably before like f4

[flint token]

just barely viable enough to be worth considering and just ass enough to never worth trying again

[crystal niche]

encounter battles:

like that one that just has lots of flowers and ur blue box is on top

that shits cancerous without leizi

[flint token]

ah garden encounter

yato hard counter it somewhat

[sly harness]

Again Raidian mostly solved it

[surreal field]

Also those treasure mobs on the sides, right? Didn't yet beat it without some (most) getting to the blue box

[sly harness]

Btw this stage has a relicless d18 clear

Iirc Raidian + CE

[surreal field]

Who's CE?