is-station

[gaunt bay]

works for enmt4?

[steel relic]

Yeah cuz Kroos just takes out the dog

[pastel saffron]

oh so u put kroos first

[gaunt bay]

wait does that make hoshi the second ever 6* to be able to clear all f1 stages at e1

[pastel saffron]

woulsnt u have enuff dp to play hoshi in time?

[gaunt bay]

[pastel saffron]

Saki can do it too I think but she's trash later anyway

[steel relic]

You were talking about e1?

[gaunt bay]

oh

[pastel saffron]

I actually need to test it out

[gaunt bay]

🫃

bruh i always assume e1 for openers

[steel relic]

Literally John tacfort why would I e1 opener

[pastel saffron]

will hoshi die to EM ghosts at e1 or survive

[gaunt bay]

i think her ass leaks to ghosts

no way she kills in time

[pastel saffron]

killing is not issue those giys doing fuck ton of dmg is

she prolly need 3 s2s

Just use trag

[prime mountain]

Its arts damage tho she can just tank

zzz

[pastel saffron]

even on EM?

Need to try

it can also depend on whwre those guys spawn

[prime mountain]

She even gets slugs to heal so maybe

[dull valley]

What does the unflinching masterpiece do again

[pastel saffron]

isnt this ed3 relic

[steel relic]

Not at e1

[prime mountain]

Invites you to Wang's super secret chess club

[dull valley]

Ah I should've took it

Oopz

[dull valley]

Leizi best guard draft is6?

[low vortex]

for the most part, pre DLC2

[pastel saffron]

if ur going ed2 and can only draft 1 guard Id pick entel personally

anything else is just leizi ye

[surreal field]

GUYS, APOLOGIES IF IT'S OFF-TOPIC
BUT FINALLY BEAT DIFFICULTY ZERO!

(Borrowed Exusiai as advised in here instead of trying to keep Sui [?] in one place with Tragodia)

[placid spindle]

not off topic, congrats

[sly harness]

I'd still choose Leizi, even just for 2nd Edition. Ente needs some attention, Waai Fu if you want to leave her on the field. With Leizi, you simply deploy her and activate skills after Sui attacks

[prime mountain]

Keep in mind you need to know how to use Leizi, she isnt really drop and go

[open finch]

Great job, first of many

[surreal field]

Anything to look out for in 1st and 2nd difficulty? What kind of buffs do they give, or is it explained in difficulties description? (still reading epilogue)

Apologies for question that would probably require 15 seconds of googling, actually

[prime mountain]

Every difficult has stat increase per floor

rest is written on the difficulty page

[surreal field]

By stat increase, do you mean like +10% HP and Attack on 1st floor, +20% on 2nd floor and so on?

[prime mountain]

+1% per difficulty per floor (mostly)

[surreal field]

That's basically nothing, does boss get much harder?

[prime mountain]

per difficulty level

It goes up to 15 in is6

And there's the extra buffs from the difficulty itself

[surreal field]

Yea, no, I could see how it's 90% on floor 6 for 15th difficulty, but for now it doesn't matter

[prime mountain]

d0 vs d15 ed2 stats for comparison

Idr the exact % increases per difficulty which is why I said (mostly) but here is the raw numbers for ed2 boss

[crimson raptor]

How the hell do you beat revered grandmaster/ grand duke

[surreal field]

Can't understand anything they're saying in that epilogue btw, should've read the whole plotline instead of only Invitation to Wine
Chinese names are confusing it even more

[prime mountain]

Thats why we just skip it all 👍

I only read like one of the sui events missing 4 more

[surreal field]

Do other IS have reading prerequisites? Don't want to spoil myself on even what they are about (otherwise I'd google), but wouldn't mind reading some set of side stories or progressing main story more before playing them (only on Chapter 7 atm)

[prime mountain]

IS2 is standalone (predates trag event), is3 is huh, between some of the seaborn events dont remember exactly where

is4 is pretty standalone too

is5 is sarkaz stuff, prob read main story first

[placid spindle]

is3 has a bunch of 'what if' storylines iirc

[open finch]

The stat scaling is exponential, and sometimes they scale really fast

(looking at is3 d18 with 1.3x per floor exponential scaling)

[prime mountain]

Yeah it doesnt really need any pre requisite storyline but its nice if you already know stuff about the seaborn

[placid spindle]

seaborn lore is lovecraft core, youll like it if u like horror

[surreal field]

There are many "lost knowledge" nodes that introduce additional nodes to the map, such as "Face-off" node

Are any of them bad and to be avoided picking up in "lost knowledge" tree?

[pastel saffron]

no

unlock all

[pastel saffron]

The real horror is the fact Mon3tr existing for 1000 of years as a menace ended up looking like a highschooler

[sly harness]

[prime mountain]

perfect screenshot

[rotund copper]

dude shattered the realm

[prime mountain]

I love it

[sly harness]

Recording your stuff is funny because then you can screenshot everything

[pastel saffron]

Everyone getting hypothermia typa

[faint rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bang-dream-bandori-118

[surreal field]

For Tactical Fortification Squad, does "first recruitment" refer to 3 units you get when you begin the run?

[prime mountain]

First recruitment can be saved for e2 unit

[rich thorn]

oh yes, i forgot why i hate liberators

[prime mountain]

If you draft a support unit it also doesnt count so you can save it

[rich thorn]

[prime mountain]

Simply hit the lightning rng!!!

[pastel saffron]

It refers to your first supporter or defender voucher where you recruit ur own 6*

[prime mountain]

or mwynar reflect'

[surreal field]

This is such a confusing wording then, as "Operators from first recruitment" is another sentence

[prime mountain]

Yeah just see it like this: Your first unit you draft from your own units is already e2

[surreal field]

But it's not even that, but a unit has to be Defender or Support as well, right?

[pastel saffron]

yes

[prime mountain]

yes cause thats the class buff

There's one for each duo class

guard vg, sniper medic, specialist caster

[surreal field]

Yea, but it literally does not say that its only these classes in second sentence
Probably bad translation

[prime mountain]

;

Is used properly here

[steel relic]

Punctuation

In my gacha game?

[rich thorn]

in arknights?

they even have problems with text size

[prime mountain]

That one is5 bug where it cuts off the stage name...

[rich thorn]

or that day when path of life rerun turned into ch 15

[steel relic]

That one is funny

[rich thorn]

[steel relic]

“One day” bro I don’t think they fixed it at all

I’m pretty sure it was like that for the entire rerun

[prime mountain]

Yeah it was

[rich thorn]

kings relic encounter ...

or yeah

remind you

WHATS THE -25

and every day at least 5 persons asking about that

[prime mountain]

-25 WHAT

???

This makes my brain tremble

[pastel saffron]

phone issues

just have larger screen

realo

[steel relic]

They’ll never top “You are playing on a high difficulty. Choose ” though

[rich thorn]

🥹

[prime mountain]

CHOOSE

[pastel saffron]

nah whats the resolutions on yalls phones\

[prime mountain]

No its straight up broken everywhere (Or at least it was, they fixed some of these)

[pastel saffron]

[steel relic]

Yeah it didn’t say atk originally

It was just -25%

[surreal field]

English is not my first language, but linguistically speaking the subject doesn't have to stay the same in both sentence in "A; B", so it could be about all operators there
You're right though, there's a justification for that wording being correct (though very confusing, at least from my perspective)

[surreal field]

What was it supposed to say? 😄

[prime mountain]

Well you have to keep the context in mind too: The class talks about 2 classes, is named what it is and has the defender/supporter icon

[pastel saffron]

Carefully at end

[surreal field]

Oh, do none of these bonuses apply to borrowed operators in other squads as well?

As in does "First-class squad" not promote borrowed?

[prime mountain]

Same effect, different classes

[prime mountain]

I dont know about this one because it isnt conditional

Cause in is2 it applied everywhere

[steel relic]

First class also does not promote supports

[surreal field]

Well, the "Defender" part of "Defender operator" has nothing to do with if it's Support or not either, so it wouldn't make sense for it to apply here if it doesn't for Defenders in another squad

[prime mountain]

Right that part I understand being confusing

Idk why that even is the case

cause is2 class squads promote everyone

Seems like leftover from random promote?

[surreal field]

Does this need 5 of either Guards or Vanguards, or is it the total amount of units of both classes? So 3 vanguards and 2 lords would work?

[prime mountain]

Total of both

[surreal field]

Does "complete" there mean beating it?

[steel relic]

Ye

[prime mountain]

Yep clear any ending

[pastel saffron]

I rthink eveb 5 reserve vgs work for this

need to confirm tho

vut its pretty easy unlock

[prime mountain]

It should

its just vg

[surreal field]

Asked before in general, but I've heard that meta is different in IS, so in context of IS, if I'm a new player and have Sakiko and Logos as my only good units, would you guys suggest getting Surtr or Saria from voucher? Heard from a youtuber that defenders is not something you want in IS

[prime mountain]

That is indeed true defenders arent usually relevant, but neither is surtr

so I'd still prefer saria

[faint rampart]

which youtuber😇

[prime mountain]

bro on his way to flame

[surreal field]

Dr Pitanger in his "Road to IS" guide, I think (maybe not, will check in a sec)

[faint rampart]

nope i just wanna know more sources😢

[faint rampart]

shileds already told you so
||dont trust yt/p*tanger that much||

[prime mountain]

I FUCKING LOVE IS5

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[pastel saffron]

vbro\

omg

[surreal field]

Huh?

[faint rampart]

wtfruckanaiwnqohe

[pastel saffron]

😭

rage bait content

[pastel saffron]

wis is immortal doesnt matter

surely

[prime mountain]

I dont use wis bozo

Boring unit

[pastel saffron]

skill issue

[surreal field]

Vtuber you mean? No, he's just a guy with some picture as his talking stick

[pastel saffron]

I meant he is not good info source

just ask here

[faint rampart]

[pastel saffron]

or join is central discord

[prime mountain]

I need 245t3 for the stupid badge in IS central bro my life depends on it

[faint rampart]

go get is3 badge

[pastel saffron]

proof IS players just want bragging rights smh

[surreal field]

Yea, I got told about people's opinion on him and some other guys and now cautious about his advice, that's why I asked here

[prime mountain]

Later bro I still dont even have d18 unlocked

[surreal field]

Also, because I'm probably looking for comments suggesting Saria because I subconciously lean towards her and want to find more justifications to convince myself to pick her over Surtr

[pastel saffron]

Chat Chat Chat

[prime mountain]

What is this 5* list

Why are firewhistle and kaze there

[faint rampart]

🥀

[pastel saffron]

That 4* spreadshooter

costing like

32 dp

for nth\

[surreal field]

He wanted to put one 4 and 5 star of each class, he said that some of them are only there because of this restriction

[prime mountain]

Nah pinecone is chill

[surreal field]

It's not like 8 best 5 stars or whatever

[prime mountain]

Bruh and the best specialist he could find was KAZEMARU?

[faint rampart]

||can i say both of them are not big meta picks so just pick whoever you like||

[surreal field]

He even said that people are calling her 6 star in disguise, if I remember that video correctly

And I've not heard of her aside from this video, so got nothing to compare this opinion with

[prime mountain]

Ok he's fraud

She's just a phys dps bro like what are we doing

There's a million options

[faint rampart]

p*tanger mostly doesn't play d15/18
so~

[prime mountain]

Oh fraud opinion yep

[prime mountain]

Ok this is ragebait for sure

what is vigil doing

Same concept one of each class

[pastel saffron]

told u

[surreal field]

Haven't seen that video

[pastel saffron]

Pick surtr or brick :reallyfuckingmad:

[sly harness]

so i am unable to watch him

[faint rampart]

😢

[surreal field]

If I remember correctly, he has star ranking for "is it here because I need somebody from a class and they're all bad, or is it here because it's really good actually", so he gives some units 1/5 and some 4/5

As in it's not as bad as it might seem

[prime mountain]

Wait holy fuck trag s3 is broken with glory pack

6s stun bomb for every enemy he NI 💀

[surreal field]

Just to be clear- Bagpipe and Eyja would be even worst picks than Saria / Surtr, right?

[prime mountain]

You already have logos so eyja is redundant

and bagpipe fell off when agents got introduced

5* agents > bagpipe flag 😭

These idiots dont attack while flying

[surreal field]

Problem is, I can't get an agent because I need to not pull until SA2 and Wang, and they won't have agents, and who knows what's the next limited

Like there's Cantabille right there on banner, but chat told me not to pull for guaranteed 5 star, so how am I to get agents ever

[pastel saffron]

Eyja might be better than saria depending

[prime mountain]

sa2 is an agent

[surreal field]

Oh, thought he was tactician like Matsukiri and agents are a different subclass or something

Or do you meme in the sense that he fullfils same role?

[prime mountain]

Well he is a strategist vg but functionally an agent tbh

Yeah

[gaunt bay]

No he’s functionally a strategist

[faint rampart]

theres 4* agent in ch16
idk how compared to canta/surfer tho

[gaunt bay]

The 4* agent sucks

Mega balls

[faint rampart]

🥀

[prime mountain]

Not even cute 🥀

[surreal field]

Got Logos to E2L60 for module, but can't get module because he wants 11-6 or whatever cleared and I'm reading all the side stories and stuff, only on Chapter 7

Even if that agent was good it's like a year away for me

[prime mountain]

I believe in how broken trag is (mwynar was e1 and is on scout rn)

[pastel saffron]

he could never be what my canta is

[faint rampart]

4* agent is in banner tho, unless you mean like you cant raise her

[surreal field]

Am I right to not pull for her on standard?

[pastel saffron]

dont

silverash is like

close

[prime mountain]

If you see surfer/canta in shop then yeah grab, worth the certs though

[surreal field]

Oh, thought she was wellfare from Chapter 16 or something based on what you guys were saying

[prime mountain]

But dont pull for

[pastel saffron]

not worth I think

45 certs when silverash so close

[surreal field]

Surfer JUST left the banner, right?

[gaunt bay]

Wtf is5

🥀

[faint rampart]

nop, just releases with is6 methinks

[surreal field]

Why would certificates matter for SA? Also, I'm on 130 or so certificates because I bought Warfarin

[prime mountain]

oops!

omg burdenbeast stun anim so cute

[pastel saffron]

next shoperator lineup : Ray>Ascalon>Logos>Ulpi>Nymph and Ines should pop up in thr midst of all this too

Are we really doing 45 certs on 5* vg 🥀

[pastel saffron]

🧱

[prime mountain]

He has logos already, nobody grabbing ray here, or ascalon, or nymph cause he has logos already

idk

[pastel saffron]

why not ray and asca?

[prime mountain]

Ok so if you're playing talons in is5 and see no bosky f3 or f4 you just reset right? 😭

[pastel saffron]

Thry are good certs

[gaunt bay]

Ray has been irrelevant since dcl2 is5

[steel relic]

Cuz they’re awesome

[faint rampart]

highroller fell off :YA:

[gaunt bay]

U can still run them in is 3/4 ig

[prime mountain]

No bro I never could highroll is5

shit's cursed

[gaunt bay]

Asca is replaceable

[pastel saffron]

yeah lowest prio but still a good sniper if u dont have lemon/wis

whay about asca/ulpi

[pastel saffron]

mizuki propoganda

[surreal field]

Wait until you hear my justification for buying Warfarin, it's a good justification I'm telling you

I used voucher to get Exusiai because she's a cool character (and I only started playing 3 weeks ago, so no Alter option) and she wants Warfarin buff

[gaunt bay]

Asca replaceable spec ticket too contentious anyways

:joyplush:

Ulpi is just mid asf anyways

[pastel saffron]

I am pretty sure surfer is far more replacable, noway we cert her then

[gaunt bay]

🥀

[faint rampart]

is bro an is3-4 highroller wtf

[gaunt bay]

?

Surfer is way less replaceable than asca

[prime mountain]

Everything but is5 man it is not a real gamemode

[pastel saffron]

oh wait if u put it like that

[gaunt bay]

Do you have canta

[pastel saffron]

a 5* agent

thats only canta and puzzle yeah

[steel relic]

He spent all his luck doing shit pre DLC

[prime mountain]

The person we're talking about doesnt

[gaunt bay]

If you don’t then you can’t replace surfer

💀

[pastel saffron]

how many replacements does asca have

in voucher

[prime mountain]

I mean

[pastel saffron]

mizuki

[prime mountain]

Umiri 🤫

Better ascalon

[gaunt bay]

Spec ticket too contentious you never even make it to Asca

[pastel saffron]

yeah bro pack up

[gaunt bay]

How are you even drafting her ass

🥀

[pastel saffron]

I mean its IS6 you can draft her 2nd pick in goobla

[surreal field]

Heard that banners on Wiki are fake (in terms of global) because they change orienting from CN, is that not correct?

[gaunt bay]

Yeah but it’s not optimal

[prime mountain]

huh idk can we ping a resident CN player for info

[steel relic]

Standard banners don’t match CN

[surreal field]

As in that we'll get a different orienting banner

[steel relic]

Anything else is the same

[faint rampart]

may history repeat itself with is6

[pastel saffron]

So you believe in Exia into Yato? I see. I thinj that's solid too
usually one would do Exia into Ambusher but mizuki is very good early on especially

[steel relic]

Wow toxic

[surreal field]

Oh, somebody spread false information to me then, and now I repeated it

[prime mountain]

Fuck I hope not

[prime mountain]

ok we ban you now this is illegal

!

[steel relic]

Gone too soon

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

[pastel saffron]

chat what yall think of ines cert after sadh

sash

[prime mountain]

Nope I will just skillfully avoid this stage

[pastel saffron]

I think sash can replace everywhere except maybe IS4 right

[surreal field]

Found this comment on Reddit: "I think the previous Orientation banner was changed for EN, so I don't know if we would get this banner as is."

Very confusing

[pastel saffron]

its true

they can change it

[faint rampart]

bros never been forced to EM

[carmine token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194876316156174408/1320615354648760320/00fec94e716f00917b9f6d77414c584e398933914.gif

[prime mountain]

I have in is5, not in is6!!!

[surreal field]

Is it just that they usually don't then?

[gaunt bay]

I take exu into mizuki or swire

[pastel saffron]

I don't keep up with them sorry but I think they changed it enuff for players to be cautious

[pastel saffron]

isnt exia and swire redundant

why you bring swire if you have exia

is this like

double dps double fun

[west quarry]

god i need mizuki

[prime mountain]

Chat I forgot how f1 boskies worked

💀

[pastel saffron]

you havent yearned hard enuff

[west quarry]

i started playing with the end goal of sparking shu

i think i know

[faint rampart]

you someday

[prime mountain]

nope I will shrimply roll that one coin

!

[feral scroll]

should i level haruka for is? i feel like you have other picks that are better and you kinda invalidate medic vouchers if you take her

[prime mountain]

She aint bad but very replaceable

[surreal field]

Oh, wait, read that wrong, thought you were talking about some Orienting banner

Aren't shops from standard, so we have zero idea on what they will be if they're not the same as CN?

[west quarry]

getting ed2 already easier atm

[feral scroll]

i heard it is shown in the map where the node is

[west quarry]

it shows it as 'decision node' rn

cant believe i lost my 23 run bcs i forgot to make raidian a candleholder 🙃

guest o rwhatever idk

[surreal field]

Can you guys suggest optimal use of Support operators? Support squad gives +2 hope, so you can pick 6 and 5 star from supports, but what's the best combo of 6 and 5 star you can get?

Including the limitations of whatever it's called that you select after squad bonus

[prime mountain]

Exu or Raidian

With 4* as rest you dont really pick another 5* to start with, I guess on low diff class squad you could do amiya but you dont have her maxed do you? her alt forms

[pastel saffron]

a standard op becomes a shoperator roughly 2 years after their release

just keep that in mind

[surreal field]

Don't have her alt forms, and with Support squad you have like 8 hope to start with, so you can borrow 6, 5 and 4 star

[arctic panther]

you can pick pram

[surreal field]

But Ines was in shop like 2 months ago I thought, do they not have like huge gaps for same operator appearing?

[prime mountain]

This unironically might have cleared, trag s2 just rotates perfectly on every wave wtf

borken unit

[pastel saffron]

they have, I sont think she was 2 months ago unless I have very bad memory

[prime mountain]

This is regular version not EM, got it later

[faint rampart]

wow caper solo

[prime mountain]

f3 maps with f1 scaling is funky

[surreal field]

I'm talking about BROKE playstyle where you borrow all 3 starting units 😄

[arctic panther]

totter solo

[prime mountain]

Oh you can borrow amiya I forgot yeah just do that too

[faint rampart]

is6 guide does mention starting ops iirc, just follow that...idk how big class restricted support amiya is

[prime mountain]

It would be funny if I did all this just to not even get talons encounter from f1 or f2...

[west quarry]

i mean i guess if you borrow medicmiya, her + raidian solves most bosky stages?

[prime mountain]

Ya so its pretty free

[surreal field]

Any good alternative? Not sure I want to see her alt forms before seeing it in the story

[faint rampart]

agents

[prime mountain]

Eh everyone who uses medic one has her skin

its fine

[faint rampart]

idk

[prime mountain]

no spoiler for skin

[west quarry]

If youre not going to use medic, don't use her

[faint rampart]

and then you start playing is4😇

[prime mountain]

The good ending

[arctic panther]

is3

[prime mountain]

I still havent done 234 all alt did I...

Only did 2a+3a

[arctic panther]

how could you

[prime mountain]

bro the rng is so fucked to get all 3

oops 2 and 3 done but 4 isnt alt lmao

[faint rampart]

we still waiting for lukas to teach us😔

[arctic panther]

it cant be that bad

[arctic panther]

its simple

roll all sixes

always

if you dont then

[pastel saffron]

These non bait guide readers and non bait video watchers smh

bait1728 on youtubr

watch and win

is central bait guide

read and win harder

[surreal field]

Could you check "Standard banner for October 10th"? It seems to have had her in shop, although it was indeed more than 2 months (yet still too close for her to reappear, right?)

[faint rampart]

too dalao for my pleb brain🥀

[surreal field]

Or was that CN banner?

[pastel saffron]

yeay i think ur right

But nymph is very far

so in that gap from now

[surreal field]

Nymph is also agent?

[pastel saffron]

good chance ines appears

nymph is jus a niche caster for advanced IS players

[surreal field]

Oh, did you mean she reappeared in shop at similar pace of 6-8 months then?

[pastel saffron]

I am sorry its 2 am for me

I am havibg difficulty thinking

[west quarry]

missing swirealt 🥹

[pastel saffron]

I must take my leave

[surreal field]

No, it's my reading comprehension probably

[prime mountain]

Man is5 epochs are so ass

commerce making me not able to fully stall because I DONT HAVE ENOUGH DP TO DEPLOY MY TEAM

[faint rampart]

thanks for the timezone

[pastel saffron]

I live near China real

I mist be good ak player

[faint rampart]

if ice leaves then theres no helper in station 🥀

[west quarry]

Im in your walls

[pastel saffron]

Furrilo is good player too

I just

[prime mountain]

areyousure.png

[west quarry]

How does this happen

[prime mountain]

yellow toil + commerce

its so ass

[west quarry]

Ahh

[faint rampart]

good player not good helper :run:

[prime mountain]

Oh for fuck sake, Imma have to gamble f3 for talons...

[pastel saffron]

a helper can be bad player

coz coaches dont play

but a good player will surely know enuff to be a good helper too

maybe

I sleep

[faint rampart]

holy shit i might have to take help account advising lessons to become good player🥀

[prime mountain]

How the fuck is is5 so ass

-20 sp + talons + minimiya forced to do motorized squad

???

How do you clear this shit

[carmine token]

:commerce:

[rich thorn]

🥹

finally, no leaks

[faint rampart]

congrats

[rich thorn]

askalon s3 is ass anyways

[surreal field]

If I'm to pick Exusiai, that only leaves "First move advantage" and "Steady win" as options
(Vanguard / Specialist and Defender / Caster respectively)
So you can't pick alternative forms of Amiya even if you wanted to presumably

What's the best 5 star Vanguard, Specialist, Defender OR Caster to borrow?

[prime mountain]

Alt exu, not regular exu

Regular exu isnt a real unit she stayed in y1

[surreal field]

Yea, meant her too

I'll use my Original Exusiai Prime in non-IS content

[prime mountain]

And you can grab amiya from any guard/medic/caster voucher

because she has all 3 forms

you can grab any of her forms in any of those vouchers

[faint rampart]

support

[prime mountain]

Oh shit you cant do that in support

damnit

[faint rampart]

what if your fren changes amiya classes during runs

prolly nothing will happen

[prime mountain]

Support units stats get snapshotted the moment you borrow I think

so upgrading and stuff wont change

[faint rampart]

🥀 rip

[surreal field]

Out of Vanguard, Specialist, Defender and Caster 5 star Vanguard sounds most promising, what with the whole Agents being very good, right?

[prime mountain]

I hate is5 so fucking much this stupid piece of shittttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

WHY IS TALONS NOT GUARANTEED

[midnight summit]

D8 fia no aspd sad

[rich thorn]

[faint rampart]

casters are pretty mid
defender you could take one of the 5* guardians but like why
specialist
only leaves agents from vg so yeah

[surreal field]

These two to work with

[prime mountain]

yes I dont know if you've noticed, but the only one you can do exu start with is left one

[surreal field]

Misremembered her Alter class

[open girder]

Oh damn...I'm horrible at this. Second time I reached the IS6 boss and failed (lvl 1)
But at least I'm getting familiar with the normal stages

[west quarry]

Fafo is good ya

[faint rampart]

yea so agent is your only option 💀

[rich thorn]

she is just better archer

[surreal field]

Then scratch "Steady win", it's "Flexibly deployment" instead

[carmine token]

thats good

[faint rampart]

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/low-rarity-recommendations/
also 5*

[surreal field]

There're still 2 options, just a different one

Either 5 star Vanguard, Sniper or Supporter (because Vanguard overlaps in both)

[surreal field]

But yea, you're right, completely forgotten

[faint rampart]

just follow furrilo, i have no experience with 5*

[prime mountain]

Greyyalt unironically not terrible later in the run

[surreal field]

Best 5 star sniper is Kroos presumably

Would it be fair to say she's worse than a 5 star agent?

[prime mountain]

My is5 experience so far: 3 encounters no talons no ed5

fun

[carmine token]

🗣️

[faint rampart]

i cant answer, someone else help

[prime mountain]

huh quick throw a it depends!

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1432014269570089001.png?size=48

||- new acc so whats point of making dp when exu is your only carry and shes cheap

• kroos might help more since you lack dps or something||
• IT DEPENDS!

[surreal field]

I mean, I got ways to use DP

Remembering the talk in chat 5 minutes ago about how Pinecone costs 32 DP or something?

Guess who E2L70 her with vouchers?

[muted skiff]

5s in which IS ?

[surreal field]

But yea, I'll try Kroos, thanks for advice!

[muted skiff]

oh yea , any 5s is drafted in is6

[faint rampart]

theyre playing IS6, help dalao april

[prime mountain]

Dude how the fuck do people play talons shop with any consistency, I keep getting the stupid +3ingots per shop thing

[muted skiff]

i have 0 clue about 5s in is6

the only 5s i draft is waaifu

[faint rampart]

:itssoover:

[carmine token]

😭

they dont

[prime mountain]

WAIT

[faint rampart]

how can i sleep tonite knowing i told someone to use kroos2 over canta in is6

[prime mountain]

THIS THE ONE

SURELY

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/922859897090097214.png?size=48

[prime mountain]

I just need to not blow up to kaz falls

and we good

[muted skiff]

highroll

[nocturne cape]

Post winscreen in 3 hours

[muted skiff]

with 40 operators

[prime mountain]

I still might not get ed5 though, so we'll see

And I still need to clear yellow toil oddities kaz fall with fuck all units

[nocturne cape]

Refresh into shop and withdraw 20

-119

[muted skiff]

i ask for a 3k score win screen

[prime mountain]

👐

We win these

[nocturne cape]

Not even close

What is this suspicious nymph draft

Temp?

[prime mountain]

No bro it was no hope no plans extra start

[nocturne cape]

Wait this has outfit

Cant be temp

[prime mountain]

with 2 fights f1

it was balls

[nocturne cape]

You started nymph?

What is this technology

[prime mountain]

I started amiya and pivoted nymph, had to

[carmine token]

[prime mountain]

Ok surely the encounter after bosky is ed5...

[carmine token]

[surreal field]

When they tell you "rightmost van-whatever tile is getting a benefit", does that tile has any information regarding toss when inside the map? What if there are 2 or more tiles that are "right-most"?

[prime mountain]

It has a special visual

You'll know it

And it counts all tiles rightmost or leftmost on same column

[faint rampart]

i forgot to mention canta x exu2 bullet synergy

[surreal field]

I'll pick Cantabille then in the next run after this one fails

What is "Resistance"?

[carmine token]

res

[carmine token]

[surreal field]

Thought it was some effect because it didn't specify how much Resistance, so assumed it was different

[carmine token]

-50% time on negative effects as freeze

[surreal field]

Why does it not have a number for it then

[surreal field]

Oh, okay!

[faint rampart]

💀 uh sure, if you're not getting good results with Kroos2 then maybe

surely it can't be that impactful

[surreal field]

I mean, it's not going to fail because of this choice, it's going to fail because it'll give me the stage where you get blocks to place and where if you kill a mob exactly 2532 monsters appear from that monster to deal 1247 damage to your objective shield

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431805645924991109/1472238243625046088/thatsfengshuibozo.gif

[surreal field]

Who is that unit? 😄

[faint rampart]

mizuki our goat

[carmine token]

[faint rampart]

||you should still be fine with s1 ethan maybe, grab him from red certs if you havent||

[steel relic]

this pisses me off

why is Amiya not breaking the chest

[glossy parcel]

it would end before she could because its amiya

[prime mountain]

no dude, she clears spiked chests for breakfast

[steel relic]

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

[west quarry]

True!

[glossy parcel]

thank you i will be gambling because of this statement

im about to win big

[steel relic]

99% of gamblers quit right before they win

be the 1%

[west quarry]

just keep betting exponentially larger amounts on red

[glossy parcel]

i dont quit even when i do win

[west quarry]

youll make it back eventually (if you have infinite money)

[glossy parcel]

i know from experience black jack is the way to go

the odds are in my favor(they are not)

[steel relic]

I've been to a casino before (in Stardew Valley) and won a good amount (the whole thing is rigged in your favour)

[glossy parcel]

yes real casinos must be the same, thanks for the tips

[faint rampart]

how to play....

[steel relic]

samsung start

[open finch]

Kroos calls

[steel relic]

together with Spot and Lava

[surreal field]

Does "-45% HP to enemies" coin affect boss? If so, how does it work when on higher difficulties, as in is it:

• Multiplicative: BossHP * 1.5 * 0.55 (when +50% HP from difficulty as an example)
  or
• Additive: BossHP * (1 + bonusFromDifficulty - 0.45)?

[dull valley]

@prime mountain Carmen enjoyer

[steel relic]

multiplicative

[surreal field]

Are temporary recruits (IS exclusive units) all over the place, or mostly good / bad?

[steel relic]

Pith is pretty weak

mfw splash caster

Sharp and Stormeye are alright, Touch and Tulip are great

the 3* reserves are all whatever and actual 3* ops are free everywhere except is3 d4+ so they're just filler

[prime mountain]

true...

[prime mountain]

aka its busted as shit, 2x dps increase

[gaunt bay]

Ya!

[prime mountain]

[odd rose]

what low rarities should i level for is3 and 4 seeing 4* aren't free there

[prime mountain]

@nocturne cape you're not gonna see the run finish...

[nocturne cape]

[faint rampart]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DgXlclIcpA38zA8mbfsq9wcUDqglgU1xXc9xNUxKyqk/edit?usp=sharing
might help for 3 or something

[odd rose]

thx

i'm just getting bored of 5

and i alreayd finished a lot of 6

[faint rampart]

wait i don't see any 4*💀
nvm ethan

[gaunt bay]

The answer is u don’t take 4*

[west quarry]

[open finch]

[odd rose]

why are defenders bad on is3?

even hoshi alter?

[prime mountain]

you take damage in is3 you die

it be like that

[surreal field]

Huh

Guys, this makes infinite cats

I mean, I know you guys know it, but still

That's kind of crazy

[radiant carbon]

At least I did it. That wasn't easy. Now I should try the second and third end in the same difficulty.

[odd rose]

i think so?

[odd rose]

what about the rest XD

[surreal field]

Yea, 6 second cooldown on cats

Wasn't a question, I was just confused by sheer power of this coin

[faint rampart]

#is-station message
kiwi more experienced, probably what they said

[odd rose]

i said low rarities btw

not 4*s

[odd rose]

.

[steel relic]

what kind of answer do you want beyond 4*s

[faint rampart]

my bad

[steel relic]

just level all your 1-3*s they cost nothing

[faint rampart]

just.... invest in all of them?

[odd rose]

not enough mats

lmd hell is real

would rather jusr focus on the ones i'll actually use

[west quarry]

jeez d15 pathfinder battle is brutal

nearly oneshot purestream icant

[pastel saffron]

u basically assume u have no ranged tile units

if u go with ground units mentality

I feel you have a lot more success

some ops really can cheese it

namely leizi and hoshi

[west quarry]

i just had no hp% relics

leizi also died in like 4 strikes

[pastel saffron]

what you need hp% for

omg

[west quarry]

isnt it arts dmg

[pastel saffron]

what killed leizi

[west quarry]

[west quarry]

the strikes and also the mobs lmao

[pastel saffron]

strikes?

there is a lot of time to open the stage

[west quarry]

ok im not talking about clarity

its the one to candleguest ops

mb

clarity is just leizi showcase icl

[pastel saffron]

oh lol

for candleguest fight

exia barrier helps a lot

sussuro is good 4* medic

also ideally u dont promote with pf fight unless u have the relic

[faint rampart]

@pastel saffron goodmorbing is3 helper, answer this guy thanks :run:

[west quarry]

ya i have bells

rip pathfinder tho

well ig i didnt have hope anyway but sucks

[pastel saffron]

you won't be drafting 3* or 4* in IS3 anyway

below them there are these

[pastel saffron]

its no morning

its just sehr

[pastel saffron]

well for next time yk

[surreal field]

Guys, I'm pretty close to getting to boss, so I'm just trying to dodge all encounters, how to answer this guy so he doesn't attack?

[west quarry]

that was f4 path

🙃

ripbozo

[pastel saffron]

1st option

[robust grail]

myrtle gravel ethan for is4

[faint rampart]

sehr guten morgen

[surreal field]

And this one is 2nd?

[pastel saffron]

yes, ngl if ur runnibg away from combats its ok if ur weak but running from most combats will keep u weak

as a wise man once said

being weak isn't bad, staying weak is

[surreal field]

I've got Tragodia with coin that gives 6 second cats, I think that beats Sui, but a random stage can certainly finish this run

[pastel saffron]

this one take 2nd its a hard fight I guess

[west quarry]

unless ur oneshotting the flowers with trag cat idt u take it

well its d1 so u might be, lmao

[surreal field]

Yea, didn't risk it

[pastel saffron]

duck lord is easy but yeah as I said

this one xan have hard fight

[surreal field]

What does this square near blue box do btw? Googled it and found out that it's like "deal and receive more damage depending on type of Yin/Yan monster is afflicted with" or whatever, but I think I put somebody on similar looking tile and it silenced them

"Mark of Hui and Ming"

[west quarry]

im so fucked for ed3 bro

[slate hull]

you'll have to play the dusk event if you want the ingame tutorial on this stuff

[pastel saffron]

lowkey

if u can get thru combats

on f6

u win

[west quarry]

wehre pathfinder.

look at leizi dawg

[pastel saffron]

oh theres no f5 pathfinder?

[west quarry]

i took the relic on f5

[surreal field]

But generally speaking, is it safe to put operator there? Can't exactly quit mid battle

[west quarry]

i was supposed to be all set with combat pathfind on f4 but my goofy ass failed that

sigh

[prime mountain]

You couldnt pathfind leizi? oof what did you get

[pastel saffron]

21 collectibles, what are u cooking my bro 😭😭 also m1 raidian

just borrow a maxed at start u dont need entel unless its 2+3

[pastel saffron]

this is why u do raidian start real

lighting up op later is restarted

[west quarry]

true true

[slate hull]

it depends, matching marks deal less damage to each other, non-matching marks deal more damage to each other, so near the blue box I think it is just white ones, so it doesn't matter

[west quarry]

the map was shit

only got 3 e. combat entire run

like wtf

bosky was shit as well

[surreal field]

Thanks!

[pastel saffron]

I barely get 2 in a run

its not about em

Uhhh

idk where ir went wrong tbh

[west quarry]

true

[slate hull]

the only thing I'd be worried about is if Yi gets there and he has the black mark, but you are kind of screwed either way if he gets all the way to the blue box

[pastel saffron]

I dont like drafting outside of pf for this reason, it kinda fucks my hopenomy

for every draft you make before f2 pf

u lose 2 hope

1 6* is fine

but with 2 6* ur losing 4 hope

just for shop robbin

[west quarry]

i only drafted outside pf once

and thatw as shop leizi

[pastel saffron]

initial entel too

-4

and u waste a pf to light

[west quarry]

that was for bells true

[pastel saffron]

I personally if ever am in this situauon just prefer using another guard voucher to light

or scout

[west quarry]

if i didnt greed the bells id be fine

sigh

[pastel saffron]

yeah bells so bad lwk

I never greed it

only real way for bells is

the coin

[prime mountain]

Or like get it f1 shop and do the f2 pathfind with leizi

[west quarry]

lei fa?

[pastel saffron]

theres a coin which can do the pf lightnibg on any map

yeah I think its called that

[prime mountain]

used to be, idk what they changed it to

[surreal field]

Beat it second time guys! Difficulty 1 completed because of Casino (how else do you describe that crazy red coin dropping with Tragodia in squad )

[pastel saffron]

[west quarry]

do ie ven make it through ed1

[pastel saffron]

yeah bro easy

u have raidian

how do u not make it

use her s1 to keep yi in red box

can put leizi in middle

she dps yi and rest of enemies

entel can hold left lane

along with exia

entel also will do her s2 on raidian summon dpsing yi a bit

Amiya can basically remove ed2 negative hp relic

lwk haruka hoshi ps are optional

prwtty much

U win easy

[west quarry]

well shit my raidian s1 just got like killed in a few seconds lmao

[surreal field]

What is Hour of Sui
They say it's stronger now

[pastel saffron]

redploy it

and use her skill instantly when it comrs up

also rmb when yi spawning bombs

[remote badger]

debuffs to your run

[pastel saffron]

he stands still for a while

so you can choose not to put summon

coz they will insta die to bombs

[remote badger]

except the one u get from having 2/4 yan to pass

[pastel saffron]

when he is bout to move again start vlocking him again

[pastel saffron]

special hour can only be triggered by Yan doubt? I thought any doubt 2nd option could trigger it damn

[slate hull]

you get one on floor 2 and then another one on floor 4, you can click on the top part of the screen to read which you have

[surreal field]

Naming and their respective positions don't exactly match- both "Expert Recruit" are just upgrades, they are not mutually exclusive, right?

[prime mountain]

All of these are always active in is6

[west quarry]

this ed3 relic is so cancer actually

yeah bro give me a fucking elite hr voucher

with no pathfinder

actual ragebait

yeah sure sure give me bells while we're at it too

[pastel saffron]

f6 has small chance for pf

[west quarry]

please bro

[pastel saffron]

left one si peak for ed3

[west quarry]

i have 1 more

[pastel saffron]

icl

[surreal field]

So can you get both? They're drawn very weirdly

[west quarry]

yeah i took it

OH MY GOD A PF

[prime mountain]

You can get ALL OF THEM

The entire tree

[surreal field]

Thanks!

[west quarry]

@pastel saffron wyr ligh hoshi or light leizi

or just light ps

[pastel saffron]

is this pf combat again

[west quarry]

tbf i do have gummy and haruka lighted but

[pastel saffron]

or what

[west quarry]

fuck no

i have a elite hr and sup voucher which is trag probably

[pastel saffron]

yeah leizi sinfe she can open map and take care of bottom if ur exia is on top

dont take trag rn

just haru chan

e2

[west quarry]

i have haru

e2

[pastel saffron]

ig take trag then

brtter than nth

[west quarry]

ye but the hr voucher

ps/hoshi/leizi?

only haruka and gummy seems rough

[pastel saffron]

what u need ps for

bro

Wtf only haruka and gummy?

bro

[west quarry]

[pastel saffron]

u overestimate that stage

U need only haru chan

and no-one else

remove amiya

remove ps

https://youtu.be/PHgVoo4356A

@west quarry

u can deploy gummy 1 tile back to heal exia

but like

Haruka is so overkill

[west quarry]

uhhh probably just take e2 Hoshi then

atleast she has self sustain

no invis reveal is annoying tho

[pastel saffron]

bro

[prime mountain]

how many life points do you have

[pastel saffron]

😭😭😭

even m3 can sustain

and haruka is like

way better than m3

u could place gummy there

[lethal cairn]

end of times?

[pastel saffron]

leizi atleast can open stage

[west quarry]

like 15 i think

[pastel saffron]

I would take top 1 ngl

end of times uhh

[prime mountain]

Nah tulip is insane

[pastel saffron]

leizi can kill dragons too tbh

u will barely leak

invis guys are only threat

u can place entel there

and she will block them

[west quarry]

fuck i forgot how to do the f6 combat

[pastel saffron]

the moment theyre blocked

[west quarry]

its been like 1 month

icant

[prime mountain]

I never learned!

simply highroll it

[pastel saffron]

inferno is

[west quarry]

help

[pastel saffron]

I also never learned

[west quarry]

[pastel saffron]

garrison can be learned

is it inferno or garrison

[west quarry]

inferno

[pastel saffron]

I hope u e2 leizi

[west quarry]

i did ya

[pastel saffron]

yeah ur on ur own for this one

coz Idk inferno

[pastel saffron]

I jus high roll

[prime mountain]

🤝

[west quarry]

amazing

shitroll run

[pastel saffron]

garrison can be learnt

[prime mountain]

Oh you can spawncamp the right side with exu I think

then huh

idk raidian it or something

[pastel saffron]

kill the shits before they spawn black dragon

[west quarry]

wait trag is cooking

[proven dagger]

i need snow hunter man

[lost flicker]

does is2 have collectible exchange nodes?

[sinful sparrow]

no

[lost flicker]

[west quarry]

Banger ost

[pastel saffron]

[west quarry]

clutched the invis talisman dudes by 0 frame deploying raidian then s2 then ente s2

[pastel saffron]

u could easily kill them with exia

if u have entel there

the moment theyre blocked

exia starts shooting them to death

They have high atk tho

so raidian bodies make sense

[west quarry]

you see

i dont feel like having them sit around

on top left

for 3 years sending 3 trillion talismans around

[pastel saffron]

Now 23 time

[west quarry]

trag also carried

[pastel saffron]

before dlc1

[west quarry]

my highroll run failed cause i forgor raidian candleguest im tilted

[pastel saffron]

Try again

its IS

happens to the best of us

I recently heard such a good player died in a tourney f2 or smth

And they're like million times better than me prolly

Even they can fail

it's ok

[west quarry]

23 before dlc1 huh

hmm

lowkey ed2 is just harder

[cinder hamlet]

This map layout sucks omg

[west quarry]

just point amiyi at the chest

and kill the dp sucker

need vg for that stage if no 99dp coin

[cinder hamlet]

it successfully blocked the whole way down and wasted 3 candles, lord

[west quarry]

wtf are u doing

Raidian s1 to block the mobs, vg to gen dp, amiya kill chests

[cinder hamlet]

I just tried that at tries 2 because the silly car is too fast

got all in tries 3

[west quarry]

well now u know

[old geyser]

RIP run number 11 of my challenge to max out Raidian on a zero LMD account. Couldn't find a sniper voucher the whole run to promote borrowed Wiš'adel so I didnt have the damage output necessary to beat the boss

[surreal field]

Well, came in prepared for Sui but the dudes that spawned in the middle dropped coins that had to be damaged 138520 times

Exusiai thought they coins were fun so she didn't hit boss

[prime mountain]

Ok sorry I have to backseat here but why did you go for the top right retrieves...

[prime mountain]

Even if you cant clear all the chests, just to unlock more fights like just clear the stage

[odd rose]

that wasn't that bad

[prime mountain]

Yeah trag kinda does that to lower difficulties (and higher even, he just goated)

[odd rose]

i kinda want highmore first of all

then i can play without trag

[surreal field]

Would that finish the run?

[pastel saffron]

no

[surreal field]

Already let her half my shield twice

[pastel saffron]

never a good trade unless ur shield is 0

[surreal field]

Yea, but it clearly says it deals 1 damage, and I was at 1

[pastel saffron]

u canf go below 1 lp

unless ur in a battle and leak

[slate hull]

yeah, but it would be funny if you could die from gambling

[surreal field]

Guys, is Wis'adel worse than Exusiai at bursting first boss?

[slate hull]

nooooooo, not the ai overview

[surreal field]

Yea, screenshoted for that reason

[prime mountain]

You dont really burst first boss though

But I guess? cause with wishadel you would either run out of ammo and blow up cause 50sp skill

Or need giga relics to make s2 work

[slate hull]

yeah, I find Exu more useful because it is easier to get the skill up, the barrier tanks and redeployment is cheap

[surreal field]

I did and it worked, just need to burst her one more time for Raidian

[slate hull]

her? that would be ed2, ed1 is a him

anyway, you can bring both if your voucher luck is decent, in terms of dps both do decently well, but Exu wins in terms of survivability, cost and skill uptime

[surreal field]

Oh, apologies, only read Invitation to Wine

[surreal field]

Don't have either, new player

[slate hull]

oh, then absolutely go for Exu, she is way better for the other stages as well

[surreal field]

Unrelated, but would you say sparking Exusiai is a bad idea?

[slate hull]

why would it be a bad idea? she pretty much defines the current meta, the only hard part is saving up 300 pulls

[glossy parcel]

sparking in general is a bad idea

[slate hull]

but I don't think we know what the next celebration banner is going to be yet, so maybe it is going to be really bad and not something you should pull on

[surreal field]

Got told in "Help" that sparking is just plain bad

[glossy parcel]

also you will not be able to spark exu yet i think

[slate hull]

oh wait, I think I am dumb, the next banner is a celebration banner

[glossy parcel]

yeah sparking is a last resort

[slate hull]

yeah, I'd say there is no point in sparking unless you somehow end up in a situation where you spend 200+ pulls to get the units from the banner

[slate hull]

I thought about saving for this banner and sparking Shu because it seemed like Wang + Ch3n would be a goated combo, but I have been hearing reports that Wang is gen slop

[turbid moss]

Wisadel and WisaSui

[west quarry]

Wang is not genslop 🥹

[surreal field]

Can you Surtr Yi?

[west quarry]

at likewhat diff

[surreal field]

2

[west quarry]

..probably

[surreal field]

Also, there's some thing that shows E2L80 in rewards in IS6 at 65, does it both E2 AND L80 a unit?

Or what does it even do?

[west quarry]

no that level 80s an already e2 unit

5star

[pastel saffron]

IS6 has

crazy relics

u can surtr even at d15

jus high roll

[west quarry]

ok but this isnt a useful answer

smh

if u highroll u can just 0 op the stage anyway

[pastel saffron]

thats why I gave it to you

[west quarry]

🙄 🙄 🙄

[pastel saffron]

:clueless:

[west quarry]

"just highroll"

brutal

[pastel saffron]

jus high roll mfs when they have to leak 999 Amiya

[west quarry]

True!

[surreal field]

What's "One on one" (Face-off)?

[west quarry]

yes

uhhh literallly that

well its a misnomer its usually 2 on 2

2 of ur ops (either ranged, melee or melee melee or ranged range) vs 2 mobs

u pick which mobs and which ops

generally ud rather take combat path

[gaunt bay]

Wang is pretty good I hear

But I wang glaze goes a bit too hard methinks