is-station

[carmine token]

mantra is less balls without trag

[proven dagger]

yeah

well she doesn't need application to work

🤫

[carmine token]

unlike same cat ❗

[sly harness]

Base stats on both

[prime mountain]

Basically different enemies

[severe oasis]

wow wtf i thought it was just the same enemy this entire time

[carmine token]

one has sp. tag the other doesnt

[proven dagger]

its considered a boss?

[severe oasis]

sp. just means alternate version of an enemy

[proven dagger]

i mean the boss icon

[severe oasis]

oh

yeah

actually wow idk how i thought it was the same enemy

the one before ed5 literally has a boss hp bar

[carmine token]

notice that he doent heal with tremble ‼️

[severe oasis]

but they dont in ed5

that just completely flew over my head ig

[proven dagger]

bro got demoted off-screen

[prime mountain]

Nah, amiya stole the spotlight

[carmine token]

the real shi is here

rn

[proven dagger]

is there any way to kill these

[severe oasis]

yes

[proven dagger]

besides amiya

[sly harness]

Amiya can kill them

[severe oasis]

if its on a tile that gets consumed by amiya it dies

[proven dagger]

besides that

[sly harness]

You can also shu S3 then

[severe oasis]

lmao thats funny

i dont have shu :(

[prime mountain]

You can shu s3 fucking everything that moves

its funny

[sly harness]

You don't want that

[severe oasis]

yeah i know she works on the like

[prime mountain]

Lone trail balls? Civilians? bosses?

[severe oasis]

fireball casters

[midnight summit]

[proven dagger]

wow they have

level 1 stats

for some reason

[severe oasis]

yep no enemies unlocked

[prime mountain]

I WANNA DO IT SO BAD BUT SHE ISNT CANDLED NOOOOOOOO ASH

[proven dagger]

wait

sappears when coming into contact with a Guidepost of the Past, releasing the unit within; if the released unit is a friendly, they immediately take Arts damage equal to 100% of the Vestige's ATK.

[carmine token]

u can shu s3 the fireballs

[proven dagger]

THEY DEAL DAMAGE?

[carmine token]

yea

[midnight summit]

You can candle still

[sly harness]

Ye

That is why Suffering is cursed

[torn mica]

I just unlocked Tin Man, should I lvl him and raise his skills?

[severe oasis]

eh

nah

[proven dagger]

suffering?

[severe oasis]

i dont remember the last time i drafted tinman

[hollow ibex]

can i possibly go to rogue trader/safe house before reaching pathfinder with this?

[prime mountain]

-60% hp on deploy

you roll that on ed5 you fucking blow up

[sly harness]

He is very optional you don't need him in IS5

[midnight summit]

Depends if you robbed before

[proven dagger]

oh

[sly harness]

70

[prime mountain]

Oh its even worse than I remember! lovely

[midnight summit]

Not really, just is5 things to increase toll limit usually

[carmine token]

its -75% if im not wrong

[carmine token]

thats inj2

[sly harness]

Or in selbaF edisecanruF on f7

[prime mountain]

Medecine sticks mandatory lmao

[sly harness]

on wiki is 70

[carmine token]

and hand of bucker 😭

[prime mountain]

I think this guy spreading misinfo, cut off his balls

[sly harness]

NG and Roberta 🧑‍💻

[midnight summit]

Why furnaceside fables are mirrored

[prime mountain]

Deep investigation

[proven dagger]

deep dive

[carmine token]

deep inves

[prime mountain]

with like doubled stats on each floor

its insane

[midnight summit]

[sly harness]

Amiya x32 on f7

Silly thing

[prime mountain]

erm

[carmine token]

how much hp does she have then

[midnight summit]

Bro i cant believe your luck

Bro is playing dlc1 atp

[prime mountain]

First run of the day buff! I will keep saying it

[carmine token]

meele op getting hit with 230k atk

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-emoji-emoji-chorando-emoji-cry-cry-gif-25060390

[proven dagger]

is that a lot

[sly harness]

Melee who? Relocation gaming

[carmine token]

quite a bit

[proven dagger]

are you sure

[carmine token]

pretty sure

[inland elbow]

I remember I tried the thing out once and got fairly close to winning

Had an infinite ulp with medicine sticks

[carmine token]

69k true dmg

[inland elbow]

But died to amiya dps check 👍

[carmine token]

[inland elbow]

In conclusion don't bother with this it's a pointless highroll check

[sly harness]

[carmine token]

its med sticks+ relocate+ hand of bucker check

😭

[sly harness]

True you just need to get a very specific setup

I think sticks are optional like I said NG and Roberta are an option

The stupid thing is that you can't even shop rob in deep investigations

[proven dagger]

oh yeah

[inland elbow]

You can't put any melee op down without it

[sly harness]

So you can't even guarantee a chalice

[proven dagger]

do you guys know if mutsumi is multiplicative or additive with sanctuary?

[inland elbow]

And tbh u don't get to kill shit without infinite ulp

[proven dagger]

u can gurantee chalice by robbing?

[carmine token]

wish noe

[sly harness]

Lamp and 150 Ingots

[inland elbow]

I did shop lamp

[proven dagger]

noe?

how does one get 150 ingots

i hardly get 50

[inland elbow]

Shop rob gives 112

[proven dagger]

oh

[carmine token]

node

[sly harness]

Don't cc Cannot above 50% HP

[proven dagger]

i will try

[sly harness]

And find a solution for the top lane

[proven dagger]

why can't i

does he buff imself

[sly harness]

You will interrupt his skills

[proven dagger]

oh

fucks up toming

[sly harness]

On 75% and 50% he spawn 3 chest

[proven dagger]

[midnight summit]

Haven't tested that. Should i? Cuz i got haruka and mutsu in my IS run lol

[sly harness]

60 Ingots total

[proven dagger]

DAMN

[sly harness]

Top is 50

[proven dagger]

wisadel can rob?

[sly harness]

And 2 for the stage

You need a team built for that fight

[proven dagger]

f1 doesn't have much stats does it?

[sly harness]

f1-f3 rob gives less Ingots

90

Also you want to rob after picking Petal it eats all your Ingots

[proven dagger]

should i rob f4?

[sly harness]

Yes

[proven dagger]

thx

[sly harness]

Lamp comps rob f4

[proven dagger]

im trying out ingot talons rn

[sly harness]

Then you can rob f6

You don't have Lamp

So you won't get Chalice from WF

[proven dagger]

oh im not even diong ed4

WF?

[sly harness]

Wish Fulfiled

[proven dagger]

ah

[proven dagger]

i remember that from the doc

[midnight summit]

Its multiplicative

[proven dagger]

thanks

[midnight summit]

[proven dagger]

quercus mutsumi yi tech

[midnight summit]

Casual 2.05x dmg reduction

[midnight summit]

Lmao

Do haruka s3, she has 60 sanctuary

[proven dagger]

i dont have her unfortunately

[midnight summit]

[proven dagger]

i could try haruka start

[midnight summit]

If you could survive

Do spec squad with raidian

[proven dagger]

no raidian

[midnight summit]

Free raidian squad

[proven dagger]

no raidian 🫸

[nocturne cape]

🫃

Gj you are winning

Because most EMs will spawn statuegeists

So you can literally just start taking vertical and refresh them into EMs or encounters

[prime mountain]

f5 gonna go crazy...

[midnight summit]

Oh i found motd yall were talking about

[alpine solar]

stonks

[proven dagger]

i need to figure out weird ass drafts for ed2 that will work out

[arctic panther]

pram

[proven dagger]

what would she even do 😭

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/pramanix-arknights-waifu-gif-27395975

[proven dagger]

i was thinking of shamare or waai fu

[arctic panther]

you didnt say meta drafts

[proven dagger]

yeah im not drafting meta

but wtf does pram even do

🥹

in that fight

[pastel saffron]

left lane duty

[arctic panther]

-60% def and -30% res

[arctic panther]

base pram

[proven dagger]

she does have a -aspd talent

that's interesting

hmm

[pastel saffron]

🚮

[arctic panther]

its a skill

[proven dagger]

skill

[pastel saffron]

base pram bad

[proven dagger]

i meant to type skill

yknow speaking of supporters

i should try mutsumi + shamare

yi stall

[arctic panther]

oh also

yummy enfeeble

[proven dagger]

her fragile talent might actually be useful

to kill sui asap

after threshold

[midnight summit]

Its on every hexer support

[arctic panther]

SHHHHHH

[midnight summit]

Pram

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/pramanix-arknights-chibi-chewing-cute-gif-17782367

[proven dagger]

if i highroll with phantom Sui shouldn't be much of an issue

maybe

watch + law and order

can redeploy his clone like a billion times in a second

so he'l smack with max atk

[nocturne cape]

yep

ive done that before

like 20k ATK on phantom

[proven dagger]

ill actually have to make a squad to explore bosky:(

[arctic panther]

-# draft pram for it

[midnight summit]

I leaked only 17 omg

Is4 ed1 and not is6 ed2

[sly harness]

Waai Fu is meat so you need to make Shamare work

You are usually drafting Mizuki, with some collectibles he is a great lane holder in ed2 you just need to find a unconventional Sui killer and maybe left solution

[topaz gazelle]

How is d15 is4 and d18 is5, compared to d18 is3? (All endings)

Just curious for a point of reference

[pastel saffron]

is4 is piss

Is3 can be easier or harder depending

[sly harness]

IS4 is currently considered to be very easy

IS5 is nothing if you don't play ed4

[pastel saffron]

IS5 lamp is consistent enuff with all the references

IS3 u can lowroll and die

[sly harness]

So basic only 245 matters

[pastel saffron]

plus IS5 has egg talons as lukas told me before

[topaz gazelle]

Is3 I've finally finished d18 all endings, and is6 I've done it on seeds, so now all that's left is is4 and and is5

[sly harness]

And it is generally quite hard and requires some learning

[topaz gazelle]

Tho I might hold out in case they ever bring d18 to is4 like they did to 2 and 3

[pastel saffron]

I think for an avg player among these getting 24 IS3 is hardest and IS4 24 easiest

[sly harness]

IS3 if you are using cheese starts for endings is quite manageable

[inland elbow]

d15 is4 is very easy content nowadays

[topaz gazelle]

I only went 13 or 14 when I need the 34 ending. I was only playing it for completionist, so I'm probably doing that for is4 and 5 too

[sly harness]

[inland elbow]

d18 is5 is challenging if you go for ed4 and not challenging at all otherwise

d18 is3 ed4 is challenging but the other endings aren't that challenging

[pastel saffron]

IS4 is childs play compared to IS3 and IS5 even/ If you follow a popular comp like triple flinger snp medic and learn it u can win consistently in IS5

[inland elbow]

what cheese starts on d18

[topaz gazelle]

I already have a good feeling for the difficulty of is3 since it is recent. Is5 all I knew is that there is some lamp cheese but I don't remember the details, and is4 I don't remember fuck all about

[prime mountain]

Lamp isnt even cheese its intended play path

[pastel saffron]

weedy is cheesing 🤫 no feed no cheese

[sly harness]

... we can't forget that getting consistent at 245 even with Lamp will take dozens of hours and failed runs

[inland elbow]

yeah but they're not doing 245

they're doing single endings

[sly harness]

True

[empty gulch]

D15 finally unlocked

[inland elbow]

they don't even need to learn how to f4 shop rob to do it

[pastel saffron]

1+4 win

pog

[pastel saffron]

true, but with all material u have compared to IS3, I think just having that makes it a tad bit more achievable for an avg man\

[prime mountain]

Nah 245 way harder than anything is3 has to offer

cause even outside of bosses you can roll regular army and get cooked

[pastel saffron]

:worrythink:

Ok everyone says that

I trust yall

[sly harness]

There is also a detailed guide for IS3 ed4

[pastel saffron]

II was gon say ooc but then I rmb IS5 has more than 3 maps that make u explode tf out

[pastel saffron]

omg Bait my goat

[prime mountain]

There's also specific ones with certain epoch combinations that are VERY rough

-70% hp and cannon 💀

+sarkaz atk and everything really

[sly harness]

There is much more to adapt in IS5

Epochs, Cursed collectibles, Lamp progression

[pastel saffron]

its ok I will win 245 with baits guide believe

[sly harness]

On the top of things like draft

[inland elbow]

oh lord I'm about to slander is5 again

[prime mountain]

Do it

its deserved

[sly harness]

I did it too it took me like a few days

[pastel saffron]

lwk trash IS

whoever thot of lamp needs to

[sly harness]

And then a few weeks/months to get something like 25% win rate

[prime mountain]

What if we took all the rng out of a gamemode that relies around it to be fun

!

[pastel saffron]

how is that bad jorean youtuber getting 245 wins here and there with meme comps wtf

[sly harness]

And now when I come back to IS5 I explode f4

[prime mountain]

The power of

gg go again

[sly harness]

Highroll

[pastel saffron]

and if someone wants to play rng make them explode!!!!

[sly harness]

I mean there aren't that many meme 245 wins

[pastel saffron]

:worrythink:

[prime mountain]

I cant fucking highroll any harder

SORRY RAIDIAN

[sly harness]

When I see Sciel trying some new operators he is usually playing for a few days to get a win

[pastel saffron]

yeah it took bro days to beat ed5

in IS6

[prime mountain]

Understandable, it just came out nobody knew the mechanics too

[inland elbow]

tbh I think that the difficulty of is5 en route maps is extremely overblown on lamp

[pastel saffron]

350 hitcount chalice go brr

[inland elbow]

like with regular army and rhine guardians, you'll have coin operated toy by the time you ever do them

[prime mountain]

I dont play lamp so like idk

[inland elbow]

that's on you bro

ur actually the stick in the bicycle meme

[prime mountain]

💢

[sly harness]

You need to not explode to shop rob first

[pastel saffron]

I also wanna play IS5 without lamp but these trash maps

[sly harness]

I mean if the run is going smoothly, you can get your kings in time, your draft isn't lacking IS5 isn't hard

But if you roll lower somewhere shit gets problematic

And solving those cases requires a lot from a player

[pastel saffron]

2 braincell devs balanxcing maps around a single relic instead of balancing the damn relic

[inland elbow]

would you not say the exact same thing happens in is3 when you roll into a forced hard map

[prime mountain]

Lukas I tought you said thief on this map is hard, bro just ines + stun mine...

[inland elbow]

unlike in is5 where you refresh away most of your difficulty

[sly harness]

But in IS5 you have more things that can go bad

In IS3 it is mainly draft

[inland elbow]

it's draft and rejections yes

[sly harness]

Rejections on d18 are not that bad usually

When you just robots

[inland elbow]

but more things being able to go bad doesn't neccesarily mean a better gameplay experience or even a more skillful one

[pastel saffron]

preach

[inland elbow]

for example, something that can go bad is getting no plan combats

[sly harness]

It is on early floors

[inland elbow]

but there's no real counterplay to this

[sly harness]

With like 2/3 operators

Not when you have the entire squad

[prime mountain]

Yeah but you dont kill any of them like that really

[inland elbow]

another thing that can go bad is an untimely epoch, but there's no real counterplay to this outside of specific relics and grand wish

[sly harness]

You do

[prime mountain]

Except like bear on an atk highroll

[sly harness]

Like with some good collectibles from shop rob you can go for some/many of them

[proven dagger]

what's grand wish

[inland elbow]

the inspirer

[prime mountain]

Oh my god

the coupon value

[sly harness]

It forces Prosperity Epoch

[proven dagger]

oh

[sly harness]

+50% max HP for units and chest are most likely to appear

But most importantly it clears the current Epoch

[inland elbow]

it appears about 70% of the time over the course of a run

[prime mountain]

this is evil wtf, bloodshed and stir fry but I cant combo down to 1 hp for the following doubt

[inland elbow]

like in the end, yes more components can go wrong in is5, but I don't think this neccesarily makes the gameplay better or more skillful

[sly harness]

Everlasting Guiding Light very strong

[prime mountain]

grabbed that yeah it was second best option

[inland elbow]

I also think the maps in is3 are just better

because your draft is often worse

and voucher rng is higher

[sly harness]

Nah I was mainly talking about it, in context of it being harder

[inland elbow]

so you end up with scuffed setups to protect knight and clear maps

hm, I'm not sure if d18 is3 ed4 or d18 is5 ed4 is harder

I feel like is3 ed4 would kill players the first few times even if they read a guide

I can imagine someone reading what quilon is about and winning

I think en route is3 is harder too

[sly harness]

ed4 alone probably not, IS5 because harder when you need to hit all the endings

[inland elbow]

if we're comparing w24 to 245 then maybe yeah

though the goalposts have now shifted since is3 nerds force no feed

[sly harness]

And IS5 nerds force t3 egg

[inland elbow]

I'm gonna be real

I don't think t3 egg is actually that hard

in terms of actual gameplay it's not challenging

there's just a very strong binary on whether you pass the quilon stat check

there's my hot take of the day I guess

I think the en route is ok until like f4 where it gets really boring because you scale

[sly harness]

Ye most likely it is not harder then no feed but it also requires your run to be above average

[sly harness]

If you are talking about Lamp you can just not get the shop

[inland elbow]

I'm talking about talons

the convention for t3 egg

for sniper medic yeah ~14% of the time you don't get shop and the game actually gets fun

[sly harness]

Can you consistently get some kind of power spike after f4 in Talons?

[inland elbow]

it's mainly that if you don't get power by f5 you're probably dead into ed2

[sly harness]

ed2 with Trag shouldn't be a problem

[inland elbow]

but also like f2-3 is the best content on talons

because your draft isn't together and your relics usually suck

[sly harness]

Some f5 Bosky can be funny though. Although not sure I don't have enough experience with Talons

[inland elbow]

so you have to actually play the game

then by f4-5 your draft is fully together

and so it's boring

[glossy elk]

managed to beat difficulty 7 of is6 with only sakiko and the supporter of ave mujica on my squad

[inland elbow]

I will emergently place down my state certified tragodia, rosmontis, mylnar yissss

[sly harness]

Kind of a big issue of IS5 are the pre dlc1 stages on later floors

At least in IS6 they addressed it by significantly changing the stages on d18

[prime mountain]

I love being able to see what the fuck is going on

[inland elbow]

bro I've spent more time fucking up the go ex 9 cm afk guide than it would've taken for me to just blow it up

brb

[dire lake]

bro needs a guide for go-ex 8

[inland elbow]

I have a jobber boss to cook

[dire lake]

[prime mountain]

How is this the first time I see castle offspring like ever

in is6

[sly harness]

I always forget about Sui in this stage and I am reminded of him with 5 of my operators standing next to each other

[prime mountain]

Instant pivot into "surely leizi can just solo for a bit"

[sly harness]

More like Ente

[sly harness]

I am expecting to see EM Garrison and EM Inferno clears btw

[prime mountain]

Oh for sure

Im about to full sweep the entire f5 map

[sly harness]

Any EMs?

[nocturne cape]

this is where you play band only 😉

sakiko will blow them up

[prime mountain]

There's one but its like after 8 more nodes

I think its gonna be fine

Oh wait I can reroll for the reroll coin now I have the plans for it

[sly harness]

Boring save the coupons for f6

[pastel saffron]

I also followed the afk guide with ulpi gladiia haruka

and exploded my first time

coz me dumb

[prime mountain]

I kinda wanna keep this though instead of rolling for more emergencies potentially...

The hope value...

HIGHROLL OF THE CENTURY

[inland elbow]

I pulled up an afk guide because it's afk

[sly harness]

Boring

[inland elbow]

wake me up when the mujica comp is full afk and I still won't play it but I'll at least not slander it

[sly harness]

It could have been EM ooc

[nocturne cape]

well

its technically afk you just need to press skills

[prime mountain]

Duck literally just helidrops what the fuck

He just spawns

[inland elbow]

I think cube needs to be taken out back

[nocturne cape]

its less demanding than watching thorns accumulate s

sp

ok maybe not

i lied

[inland elbow]

???

this guy loves his highschoolers to the point of delusion

[sly harness]

What? There are animals here... And strong Animals coin doesn't spawn any

[prime mountain]

I guess its triple flower variant?

Insane

Its super free too he just runs around the whole map forever

[nocturne cape]

why would i like the highschoolers

not true

[prime mountain]

I have the entire garden...

Oh wait one more

this is insane

[sly harness]

Duck coin

[prime mountain]

Imma try to roll it in bosky not many fights left on f5

oh I could f6 it too mhmmm

[sly harness]

Go for f6

[prime mountain]

Surely I roll that + reroll on f6 right???

[sly harness]

Bosky is stupid... It doesn't spawn extra and those animals in Bosky already have ass pathing

[prime mountain]

It doesnt spawn extra wtf

[sly harness]

As far as I know only 1 stage spawns an extra animal with the coin... And it appears so late that you may even not see it

Unless tomimi has incorrect information

[prime mountain]

Ok thats evil

[midnight summit]

Its different ending or 1a?

[prime mountain]

Thats ed4

additional floor

need to get an encounter after this (95% chance aprox for it to be the one)

[midnight summit]

Manmade carnival em

Well

[sly harness]

Raidian S3

[glossy elk]

so to unlock raidian module i just need beat any ending on diff 8?

[severe oasis]

yeah, but just jump to doing ed3 on d10 so you unlock the module and all its upgrades at once

[midnight summit]

Yea it tells you what requirement you need

For module you can do d10 and go for doubts node and do ed3

[glossy elk]

i only managed to reach 8 right now and so far i only doing ED1

[prime mountain]

Er

[glossy elk]

wtf is theses names

[pure oyster]

Your Shaw is only e1 level 1? 💔

[prime mountain]

Yep cause I built feater first for that one CC

Ancient account

[pure oyster]

Ah

[ivory hemlock]

which is would be easiest to run an r6 only team

[remote badger]

big no

[midnight summit]

Yo7 need ed2 3 times for masteries

[glossy elk]

and i not even managed to reach ed2

on this is

[remote badger]

ed2 enroute is fun

[midnight summit]

5 alters and 4☆

[midnight summit]

Yea ed2 is fun

[glossy elk]

once i find or maybe reach it i go see how fun this one is

[prime mountain]

Guys do I need more hope

[glossy elk]

how much hope you can get

[prime mountain]

I couldve had way more but I rerolled coins to get other stuff

Nooooo rolled it one floor too early

[pure oyster]

do people do runs where they don't use any hope?

[prime mountain]

Thats called 4* only

[ivory hemlock]

which is would be easiest to run an r6 only team

[pure oyster]

promoting a 4* still requires hope though right?

[prime mountain]

In is6 you could run the candle squad and just promote everything trough a candle node

[pure oyster]

yea

[prime mountain]

slight inconvenience but not the worst

Well this is my fastest foot kill so far

[rich thorn]

welp. -7 on cannot is fine?

[prime mountain]

For a f4 rob thats VERY good

[rich thorn]

thats not a rob

[prime mountain]

Oh the fight you mean?

The encounter?

[rich thorn]

yea, that one

[sinful sparrow]

-7 on the fight for "borrowing" ingots i guess

[rich thorn]

certificate

and f1 ling found

[prime mountain]

yeah idk that fight is either piss easy or like insanely hard

[rich thorn]

I CAN COPE FOR STARTING ENGINE

[sinful sparrow]

kill

[prime mountain]

Highest of highroll ever and I still -1, yep truly fraud

[sinful sparrow]

no ling loop allowed 💢

wtf shu

[prime mountain]

Known staple gvg unit

[rich thorn]

GIMME SEE THAT SHIT AT LEAST ONCE

[prime mountain]

ngl

[rich thorn]

🥹

[sinful sparrow]

kinda pregnant

[lethal cairn]

what starter did all of u use for begin run?

[rich thorn]

radiant or exu2

[prime mountain]

Entelechia

!

Insane unit

[rich thorn]

true....

[pure oyster]

pudding (don't listen to me)

[prime mountain]

Bro she still overkilled the guys on that one encounter map with holes

[proven dagger]

im gunna raise waai fu actually

since i play speccast

[sinful sparrow]

which IS

[lethal cairn]

IS4

[sinful sparrow]

exusiai alter

outstats pretty much the entire damn mode

[lethal cairn]

glad i pick her start then also does this require hope?

[prime mountain]

Its a regular voucher that just has a choice of every unit

[lethal cairn]

and require hope right

[prime mountain]

Why wouldnt it?

[lethal cairn]

yup as expected

[dire lake]

it's a regular voucher

[prime mountain]

I have absolutely 0 reason to play EM inferno

BUT

[lethal cairn]

dusk good or skip and use other 0 cost

[prime mountain]

You know I'm doing it

[prime mountain]

There is no way you skip a 6* unit over a 3*

[lethal cairn]

i thought some has worse uses

[prime mountain]

For the same hope cost? I cant think of one off the top of my head

[sinful sparrow]

do it

[prime mountain]

Its always in relation to hope

[sinful sparrow]

dont be a coward 😢

[inland elbow]

Ngl steward might be better than dusk sometimes lol

[prime mountain]

Post gnosis module sure

[inland elbow]

Just in general, the dp cost is a huge diff

[prime mountain]

Whats e1 dusk s1 vs steward dps?

[prime mountain]

yeah true she kinda expensive

[inland elbow]

It's probably a dusk take anyways, but I'd need to think about what my draft is missing

Since for example, back in the e1 degen days

Steward was important for payback

And lava wouldn't cut it

And dusk probably wouldn't because the start is dp tight

And stewards def targeting trait was important

[sinful sparrow]

now you can just slap exu s2 and go to sleep

[inland elbow]

2026 ops vs the gen content of IS be like

[pastel saffron]

If someone is playing no ban IS6 and going ed2, should first guard pick be leizi or entel

assuming gvg

or saki

[lethal cairn]

btw have Ines so thats also

[pastel saffron]

raidian start

[prime mountain]

How are you supposed to do this fuckass map lmao

[pastel saffron]

into guard voucher f1

[prime mountain]

50 relics 0 dps btw

My main source of atk is brewed realm

with like 5 flowers

[proven dagger]

you gotta munt those pullers

[prime mountain]

My ange doesnt even do like 25% of their hp pls tell me they dont have high res

[proven dagger]

30

[prime mountain]

Ok its just -4 somehow

[proven dagger]

i like destroying the enemy stove with mizuki

[sly harness]

Steward can increase range for Archetto

[prime mountain]

mhmm true

[inland elbow]

I will not accept that as a valid argument

[sly harness]

Also we need a Caster 1*

[proven dagger]

we have one

it's called Blaze the Igniting Spark

[inland elbow]

I wish

[prime mountain]

1* in CC clears!!!

[proven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/skadi-alter-skadi-dance-skadi-gif-21521663

[sly harness]

for you it will be Durin, being a cheaper pillat for Rosmo and having the same attack range as Dusk

[prime mountain]

That was certaintly a run...

Somehow really mid damage after 53 relics

Incredible

[sinful sparrow]

"no damage"

[inland elbow]

Hell yeah

[prime mountain]

2 stacks stir fry it was late

[sinful sparrow]

stirfry avenger

🫃

[prime mountain]

wow 20% atk buff!!!

[inland elbow]

Mei tier "decent damage" moment

[prime mountain]

For is6 standards this is low bro

no aspd

Well not low just like average

[rich thorn]

icant

[prime mountain]

but average run after 53 relics is ???

[rich thorn]

fucked up ling gamba

too many risk coins

🥀

[sly harness]

5 flowers with the collectible that gains stacks per flower

[sinful sparrow]

its like

[prime mountain]

That was legit my main carry

[sinful sparrow]

ingots talons bro

[prime mountain]

its crazy

[sinful sparrow]

you can have 43274832749239472934 relics

but if you dont have the mpreg ones

you still explode

gg

[prime mountain]

yeah its so ass

[sinful sparrow]

lovely

[prime mountain]

Why did we relic stat bloat again

Remember when we saw avenger and were like OH MY GOD INSANE DPS

[sinful sparrow]

Bait told me relic stat bloat is fun

😇

[sly harness]

+15%, +50% for first melee, +35% (Physical?)

[proven dagger]

wait

[inland elbow]

Bro is lying out of his ass wtf

[proven dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[prime mountain]

You get it now

its off recov

cheeto crazy

[sinful sparrow]

explain why u wanted "tongbao of wishes" then

mister Bait

[inland elbow]

Excuse me tongbao of wishes wouldn't give you a ton of relics, it'd just be like 10 broken ones 🤓

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[proven dagger]

why does he have the age regression module

[sinful sparrow]

you're actually problematic

😭

[proven dagger]

[prime mountain]

This isnt even one drum coin like bro 🥀

ts is ass

But tbf I prefer it that way cause the stages are clearable without insane relics

[midnight summit]

Lol

[nocturne cape]

That sounds fun

We can use a system like that ngl

[rich thorn]

fucked up ling gamba, but at least unlocked d15

[woven prism]

hey is there a way mid-expedition to see which endings I've already achieved with the squad type I'm using?

trying to figure out which is3 run I should be going for, forgot to check pre-run

[midnight summit]

2lp is risky thing to do

[rich thorn]

only at start, when you choose squads

also, is6 has the worst looking ending marks

💀

its so fucking hard to see dif between +9 and +12 on phone

[severe oasis]

they're also just the ugliest

[rich thorn]

they prob tried to use jade gem color

but it turned out bad

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[severe oasis]

is4 has the best ending badges

and the best medal set

[proven dagger]

i have an idea of an op to raise

but

...idk what to do with her dawg

[severe oasis]

i dont rly like when medal sets make the trimmed medal just ridiculously out of place with the rest of them

but is4's is great

[proven dagger]

i like is5's

[severe oasis]

i like the d12+ ones for is5 but i dont rly like the rest

[sly harness]

Max difficulty badges where?

[rich thorn]

[severe oasis]

yes so people can stop flexing that they have max badges on every squad when they did it on d12

[rich thorn]

never

[severe oasis]

so lazy

[proven dagger]

i gotta raise one

for IS

im eyeing the R6 ones

[paper notch]

for IS? might as well do tin man

[copper orchid]

Maybe we need n15 and n18 badges

[proven dagger]

oh yeah true

i wanna fuck around with his kit

[copper orchid]

I raised all my r6 to e230

[proven dagger]

do you use iana or frost in IS at all

[rich thorn]

or umiri for saki sesbian harem

[copper orchid]

No

[rich thorn]

[copper orchid]

Maybe just cuz i never drafted them

Maybe i should play them tn

D12 r6 gaming in is5

[rich thorn]

hmmmm, assss

[paper notch]

i dont have frost or iana raised but i did screw around a tiny bit with frost in IS. i tried out umiri a decent amount on CN and she's decent for IS

[proven dagger]

iana unlit sparks technology you gotta hear me out

[proven dagger]

oh sweet

[paper notch]

she's a watered down ascalon basically

her cycle is what holds her back but she's good for welfareknights.

[proven dagger]

shes really meant to be support for ave mujica

debuffer

[paper notch]

ye i've heard some people screwing around with her in IS with sakiko + archetto

[proven dagger]

[rich thorn]

[paper notch]

broken combo !!

[proven dagger]

tech of the ages

[rich thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/umiri-yahata-sakiko-togawa-ave-mujica-bang-dream-bandori-gif-14470204238462254383

[deft breach]

Is raidian considered yan?

[prime mountain]

I wanted to say what would indicate so but huh game is weird imma just say no

this the list

[deft breach]

Epic, thank you very much

[deft breach]

By the way, do we always get the special hour when clearing a doubt with the yan condition?

[prime mountain]

Yep

guaranteed

Still not worth getting anyone other than shu

but it is a thing

[deft breach]

Ah it's always the one that gives sp regen on Suis?

[prime mountain]

Yeah

[severe oasis]

shoe

[rich thorn]

shu/exu2/hoshi2/leizi2

and maso chen2 pick

[severe oasis]

those are my fav sui siblings

[rich thorn]

funny what texas is yan with exu

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron
Could you send me a link for a low end gvg run in IS4?

For a high IS difficulty

[tired wyvern]

I can't find one on utube

[nocturne cape]

Why should raidian be yan

[prime mountain]

Cause all of the penguin logistics girls are yan and they travel around the world all the time and weren't even all born there

[slate hull]

I think penguin operates out of lungmen even if you don't really see them spend much time there

[sinful sparrow]

no its just PL being in yan

thats all

[slate hull]

we should move RI landship into yan, no particular reason

[sick mason]

No she's Ursus

[pastel saffron]

what do you mean low end

[woeful anchor]

💀 low end
high diff

pick one bro

[sick mason]

Huh there's someone who can do high diff with low end squad wtf

[pastel saffron]

I mean its not that hard

relics help

but what is low end definition

Am I using 1 6* carry + all 3*

or is it some 6*

[sick mason]

Low end = 3* and 4* mostly

[pastel saffron]

yeah bro if 4* just watch silvergun

[sick mason]

"Some 6*" isn't considered as low end

[pastel saffron]

the guy is also new I think he also doesn't know what proper low end means anyway

[woeful anchor]

low end doesnt work on high diff

[sly harness]

They were most likely asking about low roll

[woeful anchor]

💀

just watch relicless clears ig

[pastel saffron]

so relicless

[woven pulsar]

this doesn't count cleared ones before acquiring?

[nocturne cape]

no

[slate hull]

is there a single collectible like this that is retroactive?

I think they all start counting the moment you get them

[inland elbow]

??? lowroll and relicless gameplay are different bozo

[woeful anchor]

its the same

😇

how is it different

just skip all relics

to simulate getting none

i dont mean low ops relicless for stage X

[inland elbow]

I think we kill this mf

[woeful anchor]

i meant full relicless run

[inland elbow]

no one does runs like that bruh

[woeful anchor]

low ops relicless draft goofy shit like gladia eben for carnival

🚬

[chrome tangle]

why would u lie bait

[inland elbow]

lowroll runs are dramatically different from relicless because the priorities are different

[woeful anchor]

the priority is the same: win the run 🗣️ idk man

🤫

[inland elbow]

kill fib

[nocturne cape]

nope relicless priority isnt to win the run

[chrome tangle]

bait is just rage baiting at this point

[woeful anchor]

yes it is

[nocturne cape]

its to win whatever little stage you're trynna do

[woeful anchor]

no i meant full relicless run

not low ops relicless stage X

cube didnt backread chat

💢

[chrome tangle]

if you're gonna low op specific stages you might as well not play AK

🤫

[inland elbow]

ok now bring up a run that does this

[nocturne cape]

i love jumping into discussions

without context

[woeful anchor]

i would, but the margin is too small

[nocturne cape]

so people can argue with how stupid and ignorant i am

[chrome tangle]

you are very cute today cube

[inland elbow]

fib is actually worse than pard alter

[woeful anchor]

???

[chrome tangle]

false

at least he's not korean

[woeful anchor]

:koreanarknightsplayers:

[nocturne cape]

being racist in ako

bro thought this is siesta

[chrome tangle]

its not racist if its right

[copper orchid]

[nocturne cape]

thats what they all say

[chrome tangle]

if we can have people that love children in this server

why cant we have people who dislike koreans

[woeful anchor]

[inland elbow]

???

[nocturne cape]

lets

not dive into this further

[copper orchid]

Server is gonna get nuked

[chrome tangle]

never

[open finch]

[chrome tangle]

go back to eating kermit

[open finch]

I am

[chrome tangle]

you can go eat my dead body

[open finch]

I'm just gonna reload last save for next sesh

[chrome tangle]

:ICANT:

[open finch]

And we can fight the gooners together

This mf

[chrome tangle]

I WAS SO CLOSE TO WINNING

[open finch]

Actually can't leave him alone for one second

[chrome tangle]

I just had to deal with 2 more revives

[open finch]

Maybe you should spec into living on the edge

[sick mason]

Wow looks like I jumped into a battlefield

Better jump away again

[copper orchid]

Everyone is coming

Look at what yall did

[chrome tangle]

we are proactively helping

i blame bait

[nocturne cape]

i blame bait for slandering highschoolers

[chrome tangle]

ayo..

wtf

[copper orchid]

Whos illegal

[sinful sparrow]

omg sakichan

[open finch]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bandori-bang-dream-avemuji-ave-mujica-gif-4245950365947976139

[sick mason]

Holy choices

[nocturne cape]

buy all

[sick mason]

I can only buy 3 for now (I have 10 LP)

[nocturne cape]

bloodshed falling word dream curio

🫡

[sick mason]

I want gift of accord too but I guess next time

[nocturne cape]

they're all good

[proven dagger]

@open finch @cold fjord @halcyon flame i have actual tech this time, what if you destroy the enemy oven in unlit sparks?

you yank one of those into it so it gets destroyed

[fickle jungle]

i backread a bit and i see this wtf

[sick mason]

Is it better to reserve the candles for F4 or enter the wonderland in this F3?

[sly harness]

If you have no issues clearing Turmoils and meeting doubts conditions, there's no reason not to enter immediately

e.g. usually having 12 saved Hope is the easiest to do on f3

[tired wyvern]

Low end 😭

[sly harness]

Getting Sui earlier can also be beneficial, his HP scales with the floor so the DPS check can be easier to meet earlier in the run.

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron
No exia alter.
Tactical assault squad start.
Theresa is actually very useful lmao
She stalls along time dealing true dmg.

The right side is hard to protect, so I had to do some retreating and stuff just so that I survive.

D10

[sly harness]

And having the DP cost reduced to 0 on one of your operators will also be nice

[tired wyvern]

Theresa is actually goated if u don't have all the ops on the field but there is a rush or smtg

Sakiko solos boss

[sick mason]

I guess its been a while

[tired wyvern]

How many ingots do u hv rn?

[sick mason]

50

[chrome tangle]

Double agent wtfart

[tired wyvern]

Enjoy lmao

[tired wyvern]

Huh wdym

[faint rampart]

[chrome tangle]

I don't like wasting hope on 5* agents in IS4

[tired wyvern]

Cantabile and there's are e1 lv 40 and 60

[tired wyvern]

My roster is new, I'm 6 weeks in 😭 plus I had alot of excess hopw

[fickle jungle]

in is4 environment you generally wants ines + a flag

[chrome tangle]

Draft myrtle

[woeful anchor]

5star agents fucking suck

[chrome tangle]

Or fang

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[sick mason]

Huh I realized he changed his name or what

[chrome tangle]

But CC bro...

[sick mason]

From Cannot to this

[tired wyvern]

Cantabile is not even e2 😭
Plus, at the same time, im just using her for block count

[chrome tangle]

Then use Yato 2*

[pure oyster]

Surely “as your heart desires” won’t screw me this time

[tired wyvern]

Can Not to Can Doe

[tired wyvern]

😭

[woeful anchor]

💀

[tired wyvern]

Al good point

[woeful anchor]

blocking in is4

krazy

[chrome tangle]

Krazy work 🚬

[faint rampart]

hes playing farming levels let him😢

[tired wyvern]

Hey with my ops u use everything u can get, Theresa and canta rnt even e2 😭

[chrome tangle]

Fib just hates new players

[tired wyvern]

Level 103 now yay

[woeful anchor]

idk i use a good account

[tired wyvern]

😭

[tired wyvern]

I mean, id call my acc above avg for a new player

[woeful anchor]

nop i had a "good" is4 account back when i was lv100

[faint rampart]

damn self hate😔

[tired wyvern]

😢

[woeful anchor]

i rolled for like degen and had yato ines

[chrome tangle]

😔

[woeful anchor]

broken

ela zuo shu existsed too

broken

[tired wyvern]

Is degen good in IS4?

Never used her

[woeful anchor]

shes top tier in 2023 but fell off

[tired wyvern]

Ahh

Idh her tho, so maybe support unit

[woeful anchor]

why would u borrow a washed op

[chrome tangle]

Just bring Exu Spec support

[tired wyvern]

Idk

[chrome tangle]

we are in 2026

[woeful anchor]

me back when nymph was goated

👴

[tired wyvern]

Was doing that until now, got bored doin the same thing over and over so tried gvg

[chrome tangle]

Still is

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[woeful anchor]

catboy better

[tired wyvern]

I got her as temporary form a voucher, I don't know how to use her

[woeful anchor]

skill issue 🗣️

[tired wyvern]

My first time ever using a nymph 💀

[woeful anchor]

smh didnt watch the 30 minute write up on new op

[tired wyvern]

What's the new operator?

[chrome tangle]

smh why not post the watch of the write up

[woeful anchor]

nymph...

[tired wyvern]

Oh

[woeful anchor]

shes new... for u at least

lmao

[chrome tangle]

fib casually bullying

[tired wyvern]

I don't have her.
Got her from voucher lol

[tired wyvern]

Ouch man.

[woeful anchor]

pause the run to watch the 30 minute explanation video

smh

[faint rampart]

or just go ask help😇

[tired wyvern]

I'm done with the run alr 😭

[woeful anchor]

help is useless

😢

[tired wyvern]

Help is not 😇

[chrome tangle]

post olta's tierlist

[woeful anchor]

this is what help does

absolutely nothing

[chrome tangle]

they've done better

[woeful anchor]

how much dmg does he do
"depends on how strong he is" 🗣️

[tired wyvern]

Lmfaooo

[chrome tangle]

fib

[tired wyvern]

😭

[chrome tangle]

we need you to bring this up

[faint rampart]

[chrome tangle]

to get these numbers up to 1K

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[open finch]

maybe ulpian is on his period

so hes not strong that week!

[chrome tangle]

ulpian logging in onto league for worlds finals

[tired wyvern]

[woeful anchor]

chat actually fucken sucks

[tired wyvern]

[open finch]

i genuinely dont understand what the depends means tho

idk what the how strong is supposed to measure

levels maybe

[chrome tangle]

why didnt you ask for clarficiation

[woeful anchor]

true thats on u kermot

[tired wyvern]

I kinda have to agree lol

[open finch]

i got way too confused

[woeful anchor]

🗣️

[open finch]

so i just accepted it and calcd it myself

😭

also this username sucks

[chrome tangle]

thats on you

for trying to ask

[woeful anchor]

shouldve left a hate message

[open finch]

but i might keep the pfp

[woeful anchor]

saying this chat sucks first

😇

[open finch]

webtoon noona kinda goated

[chrome tangle]

bro's pfp is not ||nfsw||

kinda wild

[tired wyvern]

Is that normal 😢

[faint rampart]

noona pfp could get you better answer maybe :run:

[open finch]

maybe

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[chrome tangle]

furrilo has been rocking tits

[open finch]

so i change my pronouns to she her

then help chat will help

maybe

[faint rampart]

:ggnod:

[open finch]

[tired wyvern]

I saw bros profile banner by mistake and was caught by surprise 😭

[chrome tangle]

its goated bro....

helps us concentrate on is

[tired wyvern]

[sick mason]

Furrilo stalkers 👀

[tired wyvern]

Lmao

[chrome tangle]

Fans*

[open finch]

naruhodo

[tired wyvern]

🤣

[open finch]

time to go undercover

🕵️

[woeful anchor]

change to egirl pfp to get better answers

thoughts?

[sick mason]

Showing up in IS6...