yeah I rmb that bosky
#is-station
pastel saffron
pastel saffron
no other squad?
sly harness
It is hell
sly harness
Rng hell
pastel saffron
I actually leaked 1 coz I was too lax on the stage with chongyue event enemy
arctic panther
Draft ange
draft pram to let exu get theough def 
native umbra
is it true that u dont want to stun cannot when robbing him in IS5?
sly harness
Yes
heady owl
what is this and why did it delete my units off the stage 😭 is it one of those relics that makes ur run harder just for the hehe and haha
rotund copper
sly harness
is it true that u dont want to stun cannot when robbing him in IS5?
If you stun (cc) him when he is reaching 75% and 50% HP thresholds he won't spawn the chests (they give 60 Ingots)
paper notch
is it true that u dont want to stun cannot when robbing him in IS5?
cannot has certain health% where he spawns chests that you can defeat for ingots. if you stun him, it stops the spawning animation and he doesnt spawn them. when he drops below 50% he spawns the last batch of chests and after that you can use stun on him
rotund copper
what is this and why did it delete my units off the stage 😭 is it one of those ...
It's requirements for ending 2
I guess you collected this without thinking about it at all right
heady owl
I guess you collected this without thinking about it at all right
no i literally just started is6 and cleared once, this is my 2nd run 
rotund copper
no i literally just started is6 and cleared once, this is my 2nd run <:SkadiDaij...
so you didn't think
paper notch
what is this and why did it delete my units off the stage 😭 is it one of those ...
the claw that you saw. you need to kill it for a relic to be able to do ed2
sly harness
Damage it to 50% HP to be precise
paper notch
the claw that you saw. you need to kill it for a relic to be able to do ed2
you need to drop it to 50% hp
rotund copper
I don't recommend you doing ending 2 for newbie it's hard
heady owl
i am playing it blind so 
anyways this run seems cooked
sly harness
Not really hard just requires Exu2 for easy time (can be borrowed)
rotund copper
i am playing it blind so <:prayge:991241772250439782> anyways this run seems coo...
just hit boss til it's hp down to 50% they keep same hp through each fight
rotund copper
Not really hard just requires Exu2 for easy time (can be borrowed)
All roads lead to 17 leaks
exu won't be helping anything dude is on his second play of is6 blind
sly harness
I mean ye, blindly it will still be problematic but you can easily clear it with some knowledge
sly harness
True but you probably will explode knowing nothing about ed2
pastel saffron
Is exu really weak when youre playing blind?
no
pastel saffron
True but you probably will explode knowing nothing about ed2
maybe u wil
but if u figured out foot attack pattern otw
maybe not
sly harness
I mean I survived my first ed2 attempt (on d2)
But I know the map and was only surprised by the force retreat of all operators
faint rampart
nocturne cape
Funny enough
When i was writing it i thought about dividing it into spoiler and spoiler free sections
But then my monkey brain couldnt figure out what goes where
earnest shuttle
Yt already spoiled the dlc for me tbh
nocturne cape
So i scrapped the idea
tired wyvern
@pastel saffron
GAAAH.
I was so fucking close.
Boss fucked me.
pastel saffron
no emergencies taken
tired wyvern
Dude, what was most of my team e1?
pastel saffron
only 11 first
tired wyvern
Also, why do some missions don't give hope?
tired wyvern
no emergencies taken
Ye
pastel saffron
take as many combats as possible, you took 11 only
earnest shuttle
you gotta dive in as many emergency node as possible
pastel saffron
and its good if they are emergencies
I take 20+ including emergencies
it will make a big difference
also shop foldart
sly harness
Also, why do some missions don't give hope?
You get Hope for increasing your Command Levels
Battles gives you EXP to increase that level
tired wyvern
Oh damn
sly harness
There are both
earnest shuttle
ah okay
sly harness
earnest shuttle
lofty quiver
No idea what these stupid coupons are even good for when you can't get any
Or what these dumb coins are good for when they're blank the entire rum
tired wyvern
So to win in IS4, I need to do hard missions in the stages?
earnest shuttle
thats the basic concept in any IS imo
torn mica
The free 4* max lvl and elite 2 ticket from Sakiko's event, who should i use it on?
earnest shuttle
you fight battle to gain more exp and hope
earnest shuttle
The free 4* max lvl and elite 2 ticket from Sakiko's event, who should i use it ...
Make a krooster account and send it in #help
they will help you choose the right one
torn mica
They as in Krooster?
earnest shuttle
They as in helper of the help chat
earnest shuttle
yeh
torn mica
ok. I did post a screenshot of my roster and someone suggested Purestream since she is useful in IS and needs her E2 to perform well.
earnest shuttle
Aight sound good, I would save it for ethan if you havent got him
torn mica
Isn't Ethan a 5*?
earnest shuttle
hes a 4 star
faint rampart
ok. I did post a screenshot of my roster and someone suggested Purestream since ...
wow help being helpful 
torn mica
alright, well i don't have Ethan yet so i guess i can use it now on Purestream or wait until i pull Ethan.
torn mica
oh. Did not know that. Hmm is Ethan more valuable than Purestream?
earnest shuttle
I would say he got more usage even outside of IS
purestream is like for IS6 mostly
torn mica
Ah i see cause i do have a long range healer with Eyjafjalla the Hvit Aska, which is what i am assuming a better version of Purestream.
earnest shuttle
For sure
torn mica
Ethan it is then! Thanks for the advice.
pastel saffron
purestream is like for IS6 mostly
even in IS5 shes good
remote umbra
At the end of floor4 and garden attempts.
Do i try to go for 1st time ED3 on diff6?
(I was struggling to get a 2 try clear on the combat nodes in garden)
pastel saffron
At the end of floor4 and garden attempts.
Do i try to go for 1st time ED3 on dif...
sure u can do it, it would be advisable to have a good healer and vg tho
nocturne cape
At the end of floor4 and garden attempts.
Do i try to go for 1st time ED3 on dif...
Start working on your bell and you’ll be fine
Make at least 1 healer your candleguest
Gummy doesnt count
Well she kinda does but you need more
tired wyvern
you fight battle to gain more exp and hope
Hmm
ashen sundial
Pretty good if you run the comp
What’s the comp
nocturne cape
gnosis sa pram, steward and guard sa being optional
archetto and mon3tr are nice addition
this comp beat IS6 ED4 relicless
still loom
Forgot to click the battle in Pathfinder node so I just threw away my ED3 attempt 
remote umbra
Wait.... where is ED3? I flipped the board, then what?
So i did ED1 with the -SP handicap and also didnt went for the yi kill with raidian (he was the last enemy on the map still in the middle)
Actually i had no chance of beating ED3. I was forced to go the -2DP recruitment route cuz i was missing half the squad on floor4. (wisadel+lemuen+yu+healer)
sly harness
For all madman reference image for boat jump that should be easy to replicate on mobile (frame advance with your Mon3tr clicked and the activity the skill when game is paused)
prime mountain
Wait.... where is ED3? I flipped the board, then what?
Pathfinder fight afterwards
bold fog
Can I get some help with unit placing on this stage? I am guessing I should drop Wisadel on F9 first and Leizi alter on B6?
What next?
prime mountain
Wishadel on f9 will get talisman'd, I would try ines to kill the guy first
Leizi on b6 is good with s2
bold fog
Wishadel on f9 will get talisman'd, I would try ines to kill the guy first
The guide says it's fine with e2
prime mountain
Oh wait on which diff are you? I forgot talismans dont do much at lower diff
High diff they debuff attack too
bold fog
Diff 10
prime mountain
Yeah you're fine
pastel saffron
For all madman reference image for boat jump that should be easy to replicate on...
I have to click skill when boat is at the spot where u took ss
sly harness
High diff they debuff attack too
they what?
sly harness
I have to click skill when boat is at the spot where u took ss
yes
bold fog
So just those 3 in those places?
sly harness
pastel saffron
after skill is over what will happen
lofty quiver
So to win in IS4, I need to do hard missions in the stages?
Your chances of winning an is4 run increase actually by 15% if you do the whole run while taking a Russian Cold Plunge
pastel saffron
m3 will end in the boat?
low vortex
after skill is over what will happen
She will go back to her high ground tile
while also getting boated
drowsy fog
qiubai or thorns for is
earnest shuttle
prime mountain
qiubai or thorns for is
Qiubai has niche uses, Thorns isnt real.
Forget about him
sly harness
after skill is over what will happen
She just goes back to her position
low vortex
If Mon3tr dies at any point after the boatjump, you won't have her till phase 3
sly harness
And as long as she is alive everything will be fine
pastel saffron
so there are 2 instances of m3, one instance on the tile and one instance inside the boa5
low vortex
Yes
sly harness
You can do the same with Exu2 S3
prime mountain
Bug abuse in my arknights grrrr
sly harness
Or Ulpianus
low vortex
Theres only about like 3 frames of leeway for the boat jump so its incredibly precise
There is a calculator for it on is-central.github.io
sly harness
It was since IS3
pastel saffron
There is a calculator for it on is-central.github.io
I saw that
and thats why I havent done it
feels a bit too unforgiving
bold fog
Ok I leaked 2 enemies but managed to clear it 
low vortex
It takes practice to pull off consistently without the calculator
sly harness
May be unforgiving but is a condition of winning ed4 in many cases
low vortex
Many strats would not be possible without it, or atleast not consistent
sly harness
Having 1 medic for both maps and insane DPS at the same time is so big
bold fog
What about the Yi fight? I saw that Haruka and Hoshi alter can keep him occupied by themselves. How do I position them?
low vortex
Especially with petal fucking up your economy
prime mountain
What about the Yi fight? I saw that Haruka and Hoshi alter can keep him occupied...
The main worry isnt the boss, its the stupid dragons going around
Ideally want a good sniper to deal with them
pastel saffron
Many strats would not be possible without it, or atleast not consistent
yeah Ig I'll learn it at d0 or smth
then jump to d18
pastel saffron
What about the Yi fight? I saw that Haruka and Hoshi alter can keep him occupied...
Hoshi in front of red box, haruka 2 tiles right of where hoshi is
bold fog
The main worry isnt the boss, its the stupid dragons going around
I am mostly struggling vs the boss because I keep dying to the summons 
bold fog
Hoshi in front of red box, haruka 2 tiles right of where hoshi is
Hoshi on S3?
prime mountain
I am mostly struggling vs the boss because I keep dying to the summons <:KEK:102...
Summons are mostly handled with a leizi s2 hoshi s3 and such full aoe melee units
pastel saffron
Hoshi on S3?
S3 is ok but S2 is better
prime mountain
S3 is ok but S2 is better
If you dont struggle with surviving s3 is fine
pastel saffron
If you dont struggle with surviving s3 is fine
yeah I have used s3 on d15 just to check
it worked fine
but obv S2 is better at that
just to be safe
prime mountain
Well you can use s3 to help dps dragons and stuff so its useful there
pastel saffron
Well you can use s3 to help dps dragons and stuff so its useful there
dps dragons for haruka?
wait I don't get it why I would wanna dps dragons
dont they just explode on hoshi
prime mountain
? she has good enough range to kill them without them reaching her?
pastel saffron
? she has good enough range to kill them without them reaching her?
Uhhh
I am sorry I don't understand
wouldn't hoshi just survive
even if she doesn't kill them
prime mountain
The dragons eat your units
Then they fly
she can kill them
?
What part do you not understand
She has enough range to cover 2 lanes
pastel saffron
OHHH
you mean to put her towards right
so her range reaches right side
I see I see
prime mountain
You put her like in the middle somewhere she has giga range bro
pastel saffron
You put her like in the middle somewhere she has giga range bro
I am guessing this tile?
pastel saffron
Ok I finally got to Wang. Would like some help please.
drafts?
bold fog
earnest shuttle
Ok I finally got to Wang. Would like some help please.
mm 2d chess
pastel saffron
Ok I finally got to Wang. Would like some help please.
Haruka At E9 + Leizi S2 at E10 to open. You can use Ines S3 sentry at H8 and then deploy her B8 to bring her over and start dp gen with S3 while doing some dmg to everything otw
then Wis on C9 and Exia on G9
Hoshi on F7/8 I like
retreat leizi after skill is done and you can put her on D7/D8
that's it really
bold fog
Which skill on Hoshi? S2 or S3?
earnest shuttle
s3
pastel saffron
Which skill on Hoshi? S2 or S3?
S3, make sure to leave ines sentry facing right on H8 so exia/hoshi can dps the invis guys that come
pastel saffron
I should redeploy Ines at the top to reveal the enemies right?
u can deploy and retreat
just need her sentry
ur using s3 anyway
s2 is bad wirh sp debuff
bold fog
Yup not quite sure how she works since I got lucky with the recrutment 😅
pastel saffron
Yup not quite sure how she works since I got lucky with the recrutment 😅
The placements are very similar to what I just told you
except instesd of wis its lemon
prime mountain
Yeah ed3 is easy
bold fog
Ed2 is easy too. I think I struggled the most with ed1
pastel saffron
Ed2 is easy too. I think I struggled the most with ed1 <:KEK:1024468566835204137...
Ed2 is hardest, Ed1 easiest
Ed3 is somewhere in between
bold fog
I just leak the left lane in ed2. Seemed like the easiest
pastel saffron
I just leak the left lane in ed2. Seemed like the easiest
leakless when
also d14+ harder to survive stomps
bold fog
Yeah I haven't attempted that high diff yet. I've only cleared ed1 at diff11
prime mountain
also d14+ harder to survive stomps
Me when 3k phys damage 3 times (it gets worse with debuffs)
+30% attack and +damage to non candlebearer looming around the corner
pastel saffron
Me when 3k phys damage 3 times (it gets worse with debuffs)
the first time I tried it at d14 I made the mistake of taking +25% atk coin, usually it wouldnt hurt
but on d14 it exploded my whole team
for the first time in ever
I panicked during a run
and made a streak of mistakes
never took the coin again for ed2
prime mountain
Simply get rid of it later 👍
pastel saffron
never took the coin again for ed2
my exia td tho
like 1m a skill
:clueless:
high roll atk run
prime mountain
like 1m a skill
Almost enough to 2 cycle the boss!
pastel saffron
the ammo spend atk relic maxed at 22.5k
which means 2nd skill would do
almost 900k dmg
empty perch
Anyone know of the flower squad? I heard from the guide its one of the most overpowered squad in is6? It said to come out in the first dlc of is6, what does it do exactly?
prime mountain
looking up the wiki rq
Ok I was not able to find this information it doesn't have CN info yet
empty perch
This note from the doc in the pin, it got me thinking what kind of squad is soo good that it is called one of the strongest squad in is6
prime mountain
Lmao the dp related relics completely break here
Did we ever find what they are ordered by if equal dp?
wild hornet
any advise, do I attempt to re-roll or just stick with silverash
lofty quiver
IS always gives me the worst midboss
I haven't even seen the third option yet I just get this piece of shit thirty times and a couple fisherman
Legit don't know what the third midboss is
wild hornet
Which one have u seen otherwise
ivory prawn
Uh
lofty quiver
I just said
lofty quiver
I haven't even seen the third option yet I just get this piece of shit thirty ti...
Right here
wild hornet
I just said
Im talking about the 2nd one
Because theres the 3, that one, one that has a relocate ability, and another that will heal if it gets hit by the block tickets
lofty quiver
Holy shit guy
wild hornet
2nd is easier by far
lofty quiver
The relocate boss is literally a fisher
lofty quiver
He has a whole ass encounter too
wild hornet
but I can see what your talking about the fishing pole
lofty quiver
lofty quiver
Struggling to understand how this works
I'm trying to use it on fuze s1 and I don't see him gaining attack at all
Not when the skill is on, or after it turns off
inland elbow
Damn
prime mountain
It's actually the french word "bait"
what
prime mountain
ok but what french word are you talking about?
lofty quiver
I made that up
prime mountain
I will call the french police and they will arrest you! I am one of them!
This is french slander
lofty quiver
Nice try I was just in France I know there ain't any French people left
I gone this whole run without any supporter or vanguard vouchers
Now I'm on floor 5 with an expensive team and no good collectibles and 5 life points
I wish I could stop being fucked
prime mountain
Can we trade? Im on gvg and only just managed to e2 entelechia out of a fucking scout on f4
I will give you vg tickets
midnight summit
I got fucking 7 medic vouchers once
I DIDN'T EVEN BUY ONE
IT GAVE MEDICS BACK TO BACK
prime mountain
The top 0.0001%!!!
midnight summit
I would've been happy if i have beaten ep14
So that will get guardmiya or using medicmiya
But not 7 medics when i have haruka as main healer
prime mountain
I have a plan guys
Hyper buff entel!!!
Yeah this prob works
+900 attack +900 def +6000 hp buff!!!
midnight summit
Hope you like defenders
I like them
lofty quiver
First time fighting a boss
prime mountain
50/50 for ed2 again
midnight summit
First time fighting a boss
Stall the boss at the top or kill it before it kills your ops
midnight summit
Tragodia and jaye/contrail stall the boss
lofty quiver
Jontrail
midnight summit
I hope you have summon relic, then you will be relieved
lofty quiver
They're in love
You mean this?
I was wondering why e1 tragedy was being so tuff
midnight summit
No, the redeployment and cost
midnight summit
What about risk tongbao on redeployment?
lofty quiver
No
lofty quiver
There's about a million coins, what are the odds I'd get what I need
I do have a risk active that helps with dp cost which is its own relief
midnight summit
No
I'll show a video on to stall the boss, just don't mess up, it goes around the circle twice iirc
prime mountain
There's about a million coins, what are the odds I'd get what I need
I can actually calc that if you want
lofty quiver
Hey woah there, let me fail
midnight summit
I'll show a video on to stall the boss, just don't mess up, it goes around the c...
It doesn't kill your ops if you place them on the most bottom lane
And also it has ranged attacks
So place tragodia right bottom side
In the corner
prime mountain
There is no way the explode on killing flying enemies thing is good???
God damn it fucked up res again
Enjoy true is6 experience from old ass tv
pure oyster
Don’t give up you may still win
lofty quiver
What part of first time escaped your eyeballs
prime mountain
Oh you went in blind mb
Right so the strat is to not let the boss blow up all your units, hope that helps 👍
midnight summit
Ig he can't, he will leak too much by the enemies from the right
prime mountain
Ig he can't, he will leak too much by the enemies from the right
14 life points its fine
midnight summit
14 life points its fine
I mean it is but i very doubt it
lofty quiver
Right so the strat is to not let the boss blow up all your units, hope that help...
It doesnt
Finally, a map where you aren't allowed to deploy units
It's just what I always wanted
And this is only the first boss...
prime mountain
You're supposed to tank hits instead of just bursting dps
crazy concept
blocking the enemy
lofty quiver
I have to do this shit three times to e2 raidian?
prime mountain
Bring hoshi alt and kal or something and just block the boss up top
lofty quiver
No
I only ended up with 6 stars this time around because they gave me free tragodia and I have a hard time passing up free ops
torn mica
Ok im done
I had the same mobs in the middle. In my run I build a fat shield of 20. So after I killed the first wave I just let everything else run except for the boss. xD
Keep in mind once you have cleared 21/40 mobs no more mobs spawn till you phase the boss to his 2nd phase.
lofty quiver
Yeah I noticed that
If I could do the same run again I'd've used the time to redeploy tragodia
So he wouldn't get sploded in the bottom lane
Probably still would lose
Instakill explosions every three seconds is hmmmm not very nice
torn mica
Instakill explosions every three seconds is hmmmm not very nice
Yeah if you place a tanky unit on the right side and left side your squishy units in between them, they can some what survive the explosion wave of drones.
lofty quiver
Best I had on me was durnar and she could only take one hit; honeyberry was a very poor healer
Next run I hope to get a more balanced voucher set and better wanderland sections
Saved up candles for two floors just to get nothing but ingot grants 😭
torn mica
Which ending is this?
wanton rose
torn mica
This item is so good, my summons had 3.1k ATK with 5 of them fishies out and Raidian's skill active. They were shredding the boss Yi super fast. This was on D5 though.
prime mountain
My cheeto isnt e2 I cant greed duck bear
I rolled stun mine tact prop it wouldve been fine bruh
lofty quiver
There's no way ines and somebody else can't drop em
prime mountain
Are you sure
lofty quiver
Its not the greatest in gvg draft but just having fun
Games should always be for fun
Stat studying and optimal drafts is a side effect of win addiction
prime mountain
There's no way ines and somebody else can't drop em
Are you REALLY sure
300k hp gopnik
lofty quiver
I already have a job
prime mountain
there's no way you just go oh yes, S tier hp, this is useful
lofty quiver
Sure it is
prime mountain
I already have a job
Dude if you wanna turn your brain off go play fucking genshin or something
negative attitude will not be tolerated here
lofty quiver
There's no need to have a total calculator concrete knowledge of everything before going in
Trial and error teaches me
lofty quiver
My cheeto isnt e2 I cant greed duck bear <a:diesfromcringe:954718021937680404>
I can't argue with my struggle, but I can say I tend to avoid building a team like this
prime mountain
What is your definition of a team like this
lofty quiver
Managed to clear all the endings in all the other IS modes without any 6 stars
prime mountain
Good for you?
lofty quiver
I didn't expect you to start getting mad
stray dove
Its not the greatest in gvg draft but just having fun
what Sakiko skill?
prime mountain
what Sakiko skill?
Huh all of them!
stray dove
which one is most fun or effective?
prime mountain
I didn't expect you to start getting mad
What bothers me is you seem to see using 6* as being inferior somehow? in a gamemode balanced around their usage?
lofty quiver
Just seems contradictory, to talk about turning your brain off by not looking at a wiki cheat sheet.... and using a lot of strong operators
I wouldn't put it this way if you hadn't meant it as an insult
prime mountain
Just seems contradictory, to talk about turning your brain off by not looking at...
Im sorry? Do you see using the wiki as a weakness?
Gathering and using the knowledge of other people is a strength
lofty quiver
Alright I'm dropping it
torn mica
Managed to clear all the endings in all the other IS modes without any 6 stars
My account is only 2 weeks old. I ended up using a friend's maxed Raidian to clear IS6 at D0. All the way to D2. xD
My roster is way to much underlevelled to carry myself. After D2 I have just been pairing a friend's Exu Alter with my Raidian. Raidian is my highest lvl character infact. xD
lofty quiver
That saved you a lot of time and grief, I promise
sly harness
bro when you start playing IS you not only start looking at the numbers, you also starts doing your own spreadsheets to calculate stuff
prime mountain
Dont pretend you're doing this for my good, you're sounding very condescending.
I wouldnt be here if I didnt like to argue
torn mica
bro when you start playing IS you not only start looking at the numbers, you als...
Haha I have only been looking at YouTube guides, and solo Raidian runs.
prime mountain
Haha I have only been looking at YouTube guides, and solo Raidian runs.
become the one doing youtube guides one day!
Spread knowledge!
sly harness
it happens gradually
torn mica
it happens gradually
I remember when I made a spread sheet just to track what skills or class for each of my characters in Fire Emblem. I will probably eventually get there for Arknights. xD
sinful sparrow
bro when you start playing IS you not only start looking at the numbers, you als...
It is also unacceptable to receive even minor assistance, such as checking enemy spawns, instead of memorizing them in your head
And yet, using specialized tools for calculations is allowed?
If that’s the case, why not just tell everyone to bring calculators before the league even started?
In a competition meant to test individual skill… I can’t accept this.
prime mountain
Oh my god not the copypasta...
sly harness
I don't know what you're talking about, Tomimi is always in the background to check the spawns of enemies down to the second
prime mountain
real
sly harness
oh, is this some famous copypasta? I haven't seen this before
stray dove
i just try to get a "feel" of how to play a map
sinful sparrow
oh, is this some famous copypasta? I haven't seen this before
i'll dm you the context
or do we jus say it here
prime mountain
Its even funnier with context say it here
stray dove
just do it here
sinful sparrow
tl;dr
sciel called out Mei for using spreadsheet during SGL#2
and this copypasta appears
sinful sparrow
she was using it to calc damage
stray dove
aaaaaand?
prime mountain
Well I can understand the argument right? If using external help is considered cheating, what is defined as external help?
stray dove
like it's not changing anything ingame
prime mountain
Most of the community agrees calculators and spreadsheets are fine but its fine to disagree imo
sinful sparrow
external help is what i don't use
and what i use isn't counted as external help!
stray dove
we might as well go with the best joke for ultimate challenge, the lobotomized run. Our pattern recognition and memory is tarnishing this experience!
prime mountain
This is the type of thing that splits speedrunning communities all the time really
floral mist
Huh? Why would you use spreadsheet for that???
prime mountain
and why you end up with a billion categories
floral mist
prime mountain
Huh? Why would you use spreadsheet for that???
Because you need to count relics
sinful sparrow
speedrunning games is kinda 🫃 imma be fr
why are you speeding to not play the game
??
floral mist
Cause people have different preferences?
prime mountain
No you dont get it, you play so fast you play the game twice in the same amount of time!
stray dove
there are games
prime mountain
floral mist
Not all people is gonna play the game at a slow pace
sinful sparrow
No you dont get it, you play so fast you play the game twice in the same amount ...
🫃
stray dove
Celeste and Pizza Tower come to mind imo
sinful sparrow
ur so pregnant
stray dove
Silksong speedruns are a joy to watch too
sly harness
wait, wait, I remember some game from SGL where someone pulled out a spreadsheet for Sentinel was it Mei? Or maybe there were more people doing it?
prime mountain
A lot of people did but Mei does that a lot
prime mountain
Well it is debatable
But its just funny how the way he says it so it became famous
stray dove
for me i don't think it matters that much
because it's not tampering with anything ingame
knowledge is something you just use outside
whether it's in your memory
or using notes/sheets
this ain't a math test anyways so why would an excel sheet feel like cheating
prime mountain
Its a test of skill!
stray dove
now i can't wait for future tournaments to ban something like wiki.gg or arkrec
maybe even a calculator
remote badger
wait, wait, I remember some game from SGL where someone pulled out a spreadsheet...
it is mei
prime mountain
Mei changes an extremely specific corner of the world yet again!!!
flint token
God i miss opening with aak
stray dove
is tarnishing this tournament!
flint token
mental illness at its peak
pure oyster
Oh jeez this seems quite good with abjurer
prime mountain
Its quite good on a lot of units really
flint token
on degen it’s still +30% dmg even if you use it every time her skill is up
stray dove
one of the few good relics in IS4
so good it was no longer added to future ISs
right?
I don't remember Tulip in IS5 or IS6
prime mountain
Please step here dragon this is not a trap I swear
prime mountain
I don't remember Tulip in IS5 or IS6
its in is5 I think but not is6 yet?
midnight summit
If I'm going for ed2 i shouldn't use carved instick remnant?
prime mountain
And it was in is3
gaunt bay
Please step here dragon this is not a trap I swear <:BlitzSmile:8265666183224361...
lmao the stray saiki notes floating over
prime mountain
lmao the stray saiki notes floating over
This is safeeeee 🎶
prime mountain
The option that has you use the item is ed2
midnight summit
Ok thanks
prime mountain
Bruh f6
stray dove
slate hull
okay, so this is not the patch that fixes f6 generation
pure oyster
I sure wish I had even 1 vanguard 
fickle jungle
okay, so this is not the patch that fixes f6 generation
it comes with ed4 ig
pure oyster
This is my first attempt at is4 though and I’m doing way better than expected
remote badger
lol
hearty blaze
After is5, is is6 the easiest is?
hearty blaze
its 2 for the simple mechanics
Ohhh
I can't believe I thought learning is by starting with is4 was a good idea
Doing that deterred me from wanting to play is back then
remote badger
5 is because of the king set being guaranteed
remote badger
I can't believe I thought learning is by starting with is4 was a good idea<:Bnuu...
it is
hearty blaze
it is
I kept dying over and over😭
Which made me not wanna touch IS as a whole😭
Until someone told me NOT to start with that is cuz it's the hardest☠️
remote badger
idk
hearty blaze
Maybe is6 is balanced
sinful sparrow
i will be back in 15 minutes
hearty blaze
every other IS have easier D0s
Ohh
stray dove
thats just my assumptions
I can't really FULLY say
since I'm well versed in blind playthroughs
fickle jungle
is4 is kinda whatever now with exu and trag
but its still easy to die if you are not careful
stray dove
collapsal mobs are quite the newbie trap
fickle jungle
still needs to learn f4, f5 maps tho
pure oyster
I made it to lofty silver frost
hearty blaze
I haven't touched radian yet but can you level her up normally or only just by playing is6
remote badger
I haven't touched radian yet but can you level her up normally or only just by p...
playing is6
prime mountain
I haven't touched radian yet but can you level her up normally or only just by p...
You will play is6 at d10 and you WILL like it
Become one of us
one of us
hearty blaze
You will play is6 at d10 and you WILL like it
I will soon after i max is5
I mean i have tried it and leveled up radian to 30+💔
It is defo better than is4
stray dove
another reason why IS4 D0 is so hard for new players is
outside of the collapsal speeds
the maps are well known for enemy density
we talking zerg rushes sometimes
or large marches of enemies
thats why AoE laners and defenders have been pretty valuable early in the floors
stray dove
sure. It's still gonna kick newer players' asses
hearty blaze
sure. It's still gonna kick newer players' asses
It kicked my ass very hard out of the stratosphere☠️
stray dove
my dude this whole shit started because a player lost motivation to play IS
because of IS4 as their first
eggs doing everything to start a fight
hearty blaze
i will still touch is4, just not now
stray dove
MotD was my kryptonite. Manmade was easier for me. Musical Disaster was a joke since my preferred opening made it consistent.
i don't know how it feels now
with new ops
stray dove
Pralter's strong af too
and someone here mentioned a Gnosis team is pretty good in IS4
Oh wait that's just Cube.
placid spindle
playing is4 after is6 is like being blue ball'ed in hope
conserve voucher has spoiled me
sinful sparrow
eggs doing everything to start a fight
shouldn't have started talking non-sense 😢
bro is fearmongering people
sly harness
IS4 gives you much more hope
stray dove
eggs, is it banned to talk about past meta and experiences?
cause that sounds like shit
stray dove
Hell, I believe you guys when you say IS4 is easiest now.
But that's with max difficulty comparisons
pure oyster
Does this mean the boss will take 75,000 true damage if I leak 10?
sinful sparrow
because is4 is 3 years old and newer players, asking here as new players in 2026
your "past experience" is meaningless bruh
hearty blaze
your "past experience" is meaningless bruh
My 2026 experience isn't tho i hate is4
stray dove
and yet we still....STILL tell someone which IS is best started
why is that?
it means some are shittier to start with
with IS5 being easiest
due to lamp
IS2 being simplest
why are every other IS not recommended to start with? Huh....must be because it fucking matters...
IS4 is easiest.....it sure is....when you turn up max difficulty on every IS
sly harness
playing is4 after is6 is like being blue ball'ed in hope
Average IS4 run be like (90 Hope)
placid spindle
well i guess its not as bad with the hope relics in is4
stray dove
But this is ass (endings RNG)
thats quite the high paradigm level
stray dove
not capped at least
pure oyster
Does this mean the boss will take 75,000 true damage if I leak 10?
Oh wait I accidentally leaked 1 at the start and it cleared all the ice instantly
sly harness
time to die in Manmade with Crisis Trigger
sinful sparrow
but i am ass, i am leaking f1 (it is 3 am)
not royal flush 🥀
pure oyster
Holy I won is4 on first attempt
pure oyster
Yes
stray dove
leaking 1 clearing all the debris sounds like it
pure oyster
It helped so much
stray dove
Once I get SAlter and Pralter, I'm motivated to revisit every IS
stray dove
not royal flush 🥀
whats the perfect combo? Baro, Farts, Entity,....and LP loss from Index loss?
wait
instead of Index LP loss, the collapsal stat and MSPD increase
pure oyster
It was almost entirely tragodia again. This guy is so good
sinful sparrow
baro2 emot2 nl2 inj2
stray dove
how could i forget trigger
it's like one of the more annoying things when lacking healing
that makes more sense.
Every single one consistently shits on you
even if entity barely procs
if it procs the worst enemy
it might ruin the run
Sentinel Terrifying Entity'd Craz
sly harness
Time to die
I am too lazy and tired to analyze this stage again so I will just play it
fickle jungle
unknown instrument
surely
hearty blaze
It was almost entirely tragodia again. This guy is so good
I lowkey regret not getting tragodia
woeful anchor
Does this mean the boss will take 75,000 true damage if I leak 10?
yes
sly harness
I have no idea what the setup with the res drone looks like 🥀
it doesn't matter anyway, I didn't have ed2 or ed4
sinful sparrow
fat
stray dove
2 months is gonna take a long time for me
Pralter and SAlter
ops that are both great in IS and ops I want to use in normal content
sinful sparrow
bro where the fuck is my vanguard voucher
sly harness
So once again the average IS4 draft. Comparing this to pre dlc IS6 where on average you will have something like 5 or 6 6* characters, IS6 looks like the one that staves you in terms of Hope
sly harness
bro where the fuck is my vanguard voucher
On f6, reward for winning ed2
untold plover
how long should the average is6 ed1 run take? the last one i did on guided tour2 took nearly an hour... T_T
stray dove
So once again the average IS4 draft. Comparing this to pre dlc IS6 where on aver...
hilariously, how CN ops play an Ed5 route now
are devoid of using conversed vouchers
sly harness
Hour sounds like an average time
copper orchid
how long should the average is6 ed1 run take? the last one i did on guided tour2...
An hour + sounds average
Cuz ur constantly going through bosky
sly harness
You can play faster and go down to 30-45 minutes
stray dove
yeah it's called skipping most of the Sui realm stuff
sly harness
But than you will play almost relicless
stray dove
you do Sui realm to get stronger
if you feel like the run's gonna clear Ed1 already
just skip them
untold plover
i see, i see, thanks for the insight
sly harness
My runs took probably around 1.5-2 hours because I was farming collectibles even on low difficulties
woeful anchor
how long should the average is6 ed1 run take? the last one i did on guided tour2...
1hr is short already
stray dove
the thing about IS6 for me is
absolutely
it takes a longer time to clear per run due to Sui realm
but in return
i had the lowest amounts of losses
because of me being able to squeeze out a lot of strength per run
it kinda also helps
that IS6 relic pool is so fucking good
and tongbaos are amazing
sinful sparrow
On f6, reward for winning ed2 <:DocSmile:1213036172524126240>
ed2 with -50% dp no vanguard 💀
inland elbow
I have no idea what the setup with the res drone looks like 🥀
Just use trag to cat it away
woeful anchor
i got the strat
sly harness
d15 23 runs takes around 2 hours so basically an average for high end runs
stray dove
I really wasn't valuing the redep risk coin as much.
I should embrace it that you can easily low ops a fight enough
stray dove
MoM excluding Survivor was like doing Talons. Relying hard on relic drops to get more strength.
inland elbow
Well, you watched me talk through the start anyways
sinful sparrow
r u gonna use ur account later mika?
bro im in the middle of an is6 run
woeful anchor
wtfart
sinful sparrow
wait like a couple hours
sly harness
Also wtf you just watched me talk cube through a clear
But you had the DEF drone variant, right?
woeful anchor
ye sur
inland elbow
True, though the screenshot of placements accounts for both
sinful sparrow
😇
sly harness
True, though the screenshot of placements accounts for both
I mean I just didn't respect the dron, killed only the first phase and the died around 60 enemies in
sly harness
Because the boss was still alive
gaunt bay
is4 pretty simple strategy wise
sinful sparrow
stfu kiwi
woeful anchor
my storage 😭
sinful sparrow
your only sent clear is wis is5 abuse
woeful anchor
en jp (en for khant) official bili
gaunt bay
bro doesnt know
sly harness
I also didn't really care about that run because it was just Sentinel
copper orchid
en jp (en for khant) official bili
U play official?
remote badger
We need our pc client
ask yostar
inland elbow
I didn't remember most of the placements with 2025 ops
nocturne cape
dw bro cube wont know
copper orchid
ask yostar
They are never gonna give us one
nocturne cape
If it works it works
copper orchid
Just like our gacha history
nocturne cape
But yeah ill try to figure out a clear myself after bait coached me through that one
inland elbow
I'm ngl having more than one person talk during a coaching session sucks absolute ass
nocturne cape
Its true
stray dove
very
sinful sparrow
wtf ballsack F6
stray dove
coaching for a tourney?
I can hardly imagine you guys need practice for casual runs
gaunt bay
bait did cube win
inland elbow
Flex kinda has the wrong connotation
Maybe I should do that though
You must have t3 is3 medal or don't talk to me or my son
woeful anchor
Being mindcontrolled by multiple entities
damn schizophrenia free trial
stray dove
flex imo is doing something unnecessary but is impressive to complete
to me it's already a flex doing multi endings
but the milestone or bar
inland elbow
bait did cube win
Yes
stray dove
gets higher and higher
woeful anchor
You must have t3 is3 medal or don't talk to me or my son
wtf elitism
bait ur a mod right give me da medal trust, i am pro is3 gamer
inland elbow
Ur not even at the starting line bruh, can't even name 3 f2 stages!
nocturne cape
<@271757112894291974> is there something that dispells hours on F6 bosky
No youre fucked
nocturne cape
Skill issue
woeful anchor
:joyplush:
sly harness
to me it's already a flex doing multi endings
Wait for t4 medal in IS3, they want to cook some crazy shit
stray dove
you got me there. I can't even remember the shitty F2 stages with the 2 Broodmothers
woeful anchor
the one with the shieldguard
stray dove
or the F2 stage with the Maw/Devourer
woeful anchor
the one that looks like unending
woeful anchor
or the F2 stage with the Maw/Devourer
this is hunger and thirst
or was it hunger or thirst
cant remembah
stray dove
what about the Broodmother at start F2 one?
inland elbow
Omen
stray dove
i'm also shit at names unless they're the REALLY shitty ones
like OOC, WFU, or Elusive
or Regular, Rhine Guardians
heavy pumice
ubi my beloved :ya:
stray dove
no not Reaper
just a ton of broodmothers and mantas
with a broodmother ready to leak from the very exit at the very start
woeful anchor
damn jusan didnt watch ur clear
😢
u didnt market the clear hard enough bait
ur a failure of a cc smh
sinful sparrow
this map is so fucked
nocturne cape
Thats NM right
inland elbow
ur a failure of a cc smh
No way 500 view on latereno vid andy is gonna say that
nocturne cape
80/80
nocturne cape
Back to bed
stray dove
this map is so fucked
nocturne cape
Ehh
woeful anchor
No way 500 view on latereno vid andy is gonna say that
nuh uh
sinful sparrow
time to break
woeful anchor
lateranos are peak
nocturne cape
Otherwise its still gonna be shit
stray dove
Pralter need dem ATK relics
sinful sparrow
:mon3trsmug: please help i have two hours
stray dove
gotta inflate those scaling
stray dove
:mon3trsmug: please help i have two hours
wait, non center starts is a thing?
in exp?
stray dove
ah
sinful sparrow
not the normal one
woeful anchor
she need more SP
r u using s1
nocturne cape
Is this super large egg
sinful sparrow
its large
sinful sparrow
i forgot to take ed5 2nd debuff
well, not "forget"
i just find this run's scaling a little bad
stray dove
can't?
sinful sparrow
so i didnt take it
nocturne cape
Respectable
stray dove
a weaker clear is better than a harder run that you lose to
stray dove
the tourney is still points based, right?
sinful sparrow
cuz it pushes
nocturne cape
Nah pram S3 also works
sinful sparrow
so i can use SA's s2 to freeze them for a while
nocturne cape
You do it on the right side
woeful anchor
the tourney is still points based, right?
wat tourney r u reffering to
theres like 2394943 tours
stray dove
any IS tourney
woeful anchor
it depends bruh
sinful sparrow
tournies vary
woeful anchor
other tours dont care about the score
stray dove
oh there's tourneys that ain't points system?
only 1 acceptable route?
sinful sparrow
So on the poverty side
in all fairness i have no idea where to get more
woeful anchor
and make their own grading system
sinful sparrow
without getting the tongbaos that give more relic
stray dove
or are other tourneys just speedruns?
nocturne cape
Didnt save f5 bosky?
woeful anchor
or are other tourneys just speedruns?
have u seen bingo lockout
nocturne cape
You should be doing that
stray dove
have u seen bingo lockout
goal-based yeah
woeful anchor
yes
stray dove
that one's pretty good
woeful anchor
not all tours at the same
nocturne cape
F5 bosky is pretty much meaningless for tianshi
And you dont actually wanna burn too much stuff for f6 bosky
sinful sparrow
but yeah
usually i end a run with about 90-100 relic, getting more would warrant finding the tongbaos that actually give you more relics i guess
sinful sparrow
And you dont actually wanna burn too much stuff for f6 bosky
lofty quiver
devout flicker
I just hit the 2nd ending for the first time, mostly accidentally, and this is my squad. Does anyone have a brief guide I could read / watch?
lofty quiver
I literally just walked out of the remnant place after clearing four of its battles
Kill me
sly harness
Stir-Fry is like this