is-station

[real mango]

They brought those back too, apparently.

[stray dove]

@nocturne cape did they?

[faint rampart]

wtf EN player

[real mango]

Both King's and DK's sets

[nocturne cape]

kinda

they can only appear in extremely rare bosky shops

cannot drop elsewhere

[stray dove]

hmmm

so that means

wait

no, Desires is still good

desires only gives shield

so you only have to keep LP to 1

after buying from Ji shop post lvl 6

[real mango]

Armor, then?

[stray dove]

armor

yeah

Desires gave random armor

no LP

[real mango]

All King's Relics?

[stray dove]

i don't see why they'd not include all of em

truth be told Lamp runs in IS5

would be nerfed af

without Rumble

[real mango]

Wasn't there a relic left behind in IS3/4 that was replaced by Armor?

[stray dove]

king's buckler was kinda shit

[real mango]

Was that Desires?

[stray dove]

they combined 2 king relics into one iirc

the SP and block?

[real mango]

Nah they're different

The one replaced by Armor had the same cost, but gave +1 Hope and 5 Ingots post-combat instead

[stray dove]

no that's a different one

Crystals was meant to keep lowering your LP to 1 but give hope and ingots in return

[real mango]

Ye but that's what Armor replaced

Cause same cost

[stray dove]

while the other turned all your LP into shield (still shit pre lvl 6)

[real mango]

That's a lot of (edited)

But ye you get the idea

Same base cost of deducting -1 LP

Probably got replaced so their costs and effects didn't stack

-2 LP, but +1 shield, hope, and +5 Ingots

Would be quite insane, tbh

[stray dove]

in the end

the kings can only be gotten in rare Ji shop procs

i wonder how rare the hand Ji shops are

not gonna help as much without Rumble

[real mango]

Is this shit legit

[stray dove]

it is

[real mango]

Gods I hate IS6

[stray dove]

whatever

[remote badger]

legit clear btw

[real mango]

I say, as I still play Is6 anyway

[stray dove]

I'm too used to people feeling overwhelmed by ANY IS

and i can only imagine that they're just not into roguelites or TD

or never played AK without guides

[real mango]

Nah I never felt this kind of annoyance from any other IS

[stray dove]

if it's about the talisman thing, sigh

[real mango]

Maybe except for IS2, but that was literally just cause I had no idea how the game mode worked for the first time

[stray dove]

like

out of anything that's dangerous in IS

talismans and furniture ain't them

[real mango]

Nah, the talismans are the tipping point

Not my actual complaint

[stray dove]

no they're the newbie trap

yeah

[real mango]

They're just the cherry on top

And why I get pissed off the most at em

[pastel saffron]

its this

if u play gen content maps without guides

IS isnt bad at all

after map knowledge its pretty hard to explode on any map unless its an unfair map like ooc

[stray dove]

NGL I still haven't solved MotD

maybe with the new ops we have it might feel better.

[nocturne cape]

it is, but it was played terribly

[stray dove]

It's just that a ground trilane to stay alive with that artillery harass to prevent the ribs from leaking is rough

[nocturne cape]

this is what happen when you brute force the stage with a billion damage

[stray dove]

it's one of the first recorded runs of the hardest version

so pure blind attempts in that one

[real mango]

I thought you meant Mob of the Dead

[stray dove]

March

[real mango]

Ye

[nocturne cape]

yes, but it should never be used as a measurement to its difficulty

[stray dove]

it's literally THE hardest

stage in IS6

[nocturne cape]

eh

i have a hard time believing that now

in is6 yes

definitely

[stray dove]

btw I'm curious

what is hardest for you in IS

[nocturne cape]

idk quilon took me malding for a week

[stray dove]

oh yeah CN players

to have found the solution for Quilon

must've been rough

[nocturne cape]

ed5 hardest variant definitely didnt take me a week

[stray dove]

to trial and error it

[nocturne cape]

yeah it was D15 too

cringe design

[stray dove]

hah

the hardest balancing act for Quilon is who you're ferrying to p3

while not gimping your nuking capabilities for final 25% of Quilon

[sinful sparrow]

quilon took me about 2 weeks of malding talons unsuccessfully

and then i realized tf is this lamp

[stray dove]

Quilons difficulty spike compared to everything before in IS5

just shows that it had Lamp or high relic count in mind

to an annoying degree

like Quilon wouldn't have been too much of a nightmare if the stats weren't so absurd + the spamming of Chalices

[severe oasis]

quilon on release was the last time i had fun playing is5

kinda just got sick of it after beating him for the first few times

[stray dove]

Amiyi is genuinely fun though

as annoying as Quilon clear requirements are

it did lead to some interesting boss designs

[severe oasis]

oh yeah my first time clearing amiya and 245 were exciting too i just dont like is5's gameplay in general

[stray dove]

i guess they've exhausted their ideas of multi map bosses for a while

[stray dove]

to be fair, IS5's gimmicks were nothing but "make more relics"

it was pretty simple....

too simple

[severe oasis]

i never really had the motivation to play it enough to get good at it so ive only ever done 245 on crazy highroll runs

[pastel saffron]

I been playing IS4 and it ain't hard at all, I recruit hoshi, lemon/exia to snipe

for bottom anyone that can deal with the casters

if you have ines most of that stage is piss

[stray dove]

well by this point

my issues with MotD would've been solved by present ops

but for me MotD was a specific kryptonite

worse than Manmade

[pastel saffron]

manmade with modern ops is a lot easier

u can still get cooked but if u know what ur doing u wknt

when Is4 came out I tried it

[stray dove]

Ascalon solo solves left lane Manmade for me back then

[pastel saffron]

and for me the worst map was the ebenholz event mechanics one

[stray dove]

Musical Disaster? I remember people having difficulty with that one

but i kept teaching people

how i do it

cause i didn't feel it as hard

[pastel saffron]

its easy now

but back then

omg

[stray dove]

no it wasn't an issue for me even back then

it just needed a balancing act and a really good opening that you don't usually do

you don't play that map normally

[pastel saffron]

the rushing maps would also get me, like the one where hammer guys come rushing in and in emergency the tiles in front of blue box are banned

[stray dove]

you need the line alignments to be good immediately

or else starve with low SP regen

[stray dove]

oh the CY IS4 F5 map

i fucking hate that because of the stealth CY mobs

they've been dangerous in ANY map they've been in

IS4 F5 (CY event themed)

IS5 F6 Quilon F6 the one other than heavenly paradise

and IS6 F4?

the one with barricades

[pastel saffron]

oh yeah

they show their faces for a second

and barricade is destroyed

who can dps rhem in 0.5 second

[stray dove]

thats why my usual strat for them was

3 Wis revenants

and 4 Raidian S3 drones

all pointing in that corner

so the damage can be minimized

to whoever hacks

have Ines E2?

way fucking easier

just add a dagger on the tiles before the barricade

[severe oasis]

i tried to get back into is5 a little bit recently but i think ive decided its just not for me

i find is4 and is6 way more fun

[stray dove]

as someone who plays a lot of roguelites but aren't exactly the type to get too hyperfixated or enjoy the randomized parts as much

I just enjoy the different IS's mechanics

most really didn't add much

foldartals felt nice but you aren't using it that frequently

thoughts are used very often as well as inspirers

[severe oasis]

thats true i actually really like thoughts

[stray dove]

but they feel so minute and are just relic generators

IS6 is when i feel like the mechanics really have depth and how you play it are more different

with Sui realm and tongbaos

not all tongbaos

but some tongbaos can shape your runs better than most relics

like dodge tongbao can empower those dodge books, a tongbao that can turn your entire squad into off-rec

so on and so forth

and thats not getting to how interesting it is to do Sui realm. it's like a game mode within a game mode

[pastel saffron]

IS6 is peak

and so is IS3

[analog maple]

What did i miss? I have cleared all perfomances except this one

[nocturne cape]

An encounter / legend that gives you flower-the ascent

[analog maple]

is this from floor stage or wander in wonderland?

[sonic sable]

I liked the previous name better

[errant siren]

It's encounter on Normal World. Usually F2-F3.

[analog maple]

ouuuu thanks for the answer

[pastel saffron]

what about these? ik atleast 1 of them is dusk

[earnest shuttle]

chat is this good to rob cannot at f5 ?

I have 55 ingots

[pastel saffron]

I thinj bigger problem is things that spawn at top at start right

if canta can deal with them

think u should be fine with trag + exia

not sure

[sly harness]

Exu alter the top then rest to spawn camp the middle

Although you may lack some damage

Do you have any Thoughts for Soul Binding Bone?

[earnest shuttle]

about 30

its d10 so I think it should be okay

[sly harness]

Should be fine

[earnest shuttle]

Abit shame I didnt do any other ending

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-congrats-clapping-clap-hulk-gif-27571005

[arctic panther]

you’ll get even better runs eventually

[earnest shuttle]

[gaunt bay]

so true bestie

[severe oasis]

hi kiwi

[gaunt bay]

hi rose cat

:3

[remote badger]

hi both :3

[midnight summit]

Is it possible to inf stall Yi if i get 2 res relics and butterfly?

Or do i need paralyze from tragodia cat?

[remote badger]

u can

[midnight summit]

Ooh nice

[remote badger]

the job is simple

keep bro on top

care about the damn feet if u actually didnt make it down to 50% hp before

[midnight summit]

Oh wait mirror also works to stall with hoshi

[midnight summit]

Ok im done theory crafting, you need royal brooch and consolidation to make 100 res on hoshi2

[faint rampart]

[midnight summit]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

I'd also use aak s2 to just reach this 100 res if i had one

[faint rampart]

huh what does aak do

[woeful anchor]

u still take art dmg if u have 100 res btw

[midnight summit]

To reach lower hp to get full tenacity

[midnight summit]

Butterfly + hoshi s2 or s3

[woeful anchor]

wut does butterfly do

[midnight summit]

Everytime those flying enemies die she heals 300 hp

For every single one that's around her

[faint rampart]

oh its the yellow relic.... nothing related to ed2

[midnight summit]

Yea i was talking about yi before, i was just wondering if its possible

To inf stall it with 1 op

[woeful anchor]

u can stall

1 op

ethan permabind

perma dodge

roll better rng

👍

relicless

[faint rampart]

thought you were talking about this when you said butterfly

[sinful sparrow]

????

🫃

:hypermpreg:

:gigampreg:

:terampreg:

[copper orchid]

😭 wtf are those emotes

[woeful anchor]

???

did u get mod3 tragussy yet

[faint rampart]

[copper orchid]

😭

[sinful sparrow]

my trag is mod3 since like

300 days ago

[woeful anchor]

wat

u told me ur trag wang is mod1

[sinful sparrow]

wang is mod1

yep

[woeful anchor]

oh i thought its
(targ wang) is mod1

and not trag (wang is mod1)

english excellent language

[sinful sparrow]

its a lovely language

[muted skiff]

noooooooooo

jesus this ed3

[sly harness]

You need to manipulate its spawn placement

Also the three nodes outside of 5x5 aren't important

[pastel saffron]

just take it early bro

[sly harness]

Or save Candles from f3

[faint rampart]

like where the ed3 doubt can appear?

[sly harness]

Yep

You want to spawn it on some short path

[faint rampart]

oh so you sacrifice the most useless path doubt node to ed3

new thing learnt

[midnight summit]

He dies

[woeful anchor]

wat

he can dodge

just dodge

[midnight summit]

But he can die

[woeful anchor]

from what?

[sly harness]

For example here you should start with the Retrieve on the left or one of the Legend

[woeful anchor]

if u dodge everything he doesnt die

skillfully roll better dodge rng

[midnight summit]

[tired wyvern]

Yo, now which is better? IS6 start or IS4 start?

[sly harness]

Also unless you are copeing for some vouchers you shouldn't enter f1

[sly harness]

IS6 is easier to newer accounts

Get Raidian to e2 and she will solve most of it

[tired wyvern]

So I should clear up IS6 first,

Is radian good for other IS

[wary bolt]

Yay, I got through GT1!

With 7 leaks

[tired wyvern]

Meaning till d2 I have to play carefully?

[faint rampart]

so even if path gets blocked by ed3 node, you can still walk on that path after completing the battle(???)

[sly harness]

No, she is bad in other ISes

[faint rampart]

dw, fib high level gamer, us plebs cant understand his tactics

[tired wyvern]

So she good only in IS6, is she usable in story for a new player atleast?

[sly harness]

This and also if the path is shorter than 5 nodes you will be able to complete it after picking ed3 collectible on f4

[wary bolt]

Now I have to do GT2

[midnight summit]

Yea i know it, a crazy mind means crazy heights

[tired wyvern]

?

[sly harness]

She is quite strong in general content (mainly as something to solo the stages), but like any summoner she is awkward and quite hard to use optimally

[quick pond]

My God why now all of a sudden I keep getting Uninvited Guest Legend in back to back runs😭

[faint rampart]

bro you can follow arflanyr's low invest guides and complete story with wis/ling borrow+ random low rarity dead bodies anyways

[tired wyvern]

Ahh alr. So she is just very crazy and good in IS6?

[sly harness]

Yes

[tired wyvern]

Huh lol alr

[faint rampart]

😵‍💫

[tired wyvern]

Okay, i don't need pure max her rt? Cuz i hv to do other endings for that in the operator enhancement?

[sly harness]

Supposedly the current colab character can clear like almost every EX, S, H stage in the game

[midnight summit]

Yes just do some is6 before pulling raidian, she has enhancements, that you gonna pick her anyway

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[tired wyvern]

Sakiko?

Yea she can

[midnight summit]

By pulling i mean recruiting

[tired wyvern]

Ye ik

So IS6 is easy? The last time I played that I got killed by the clouds in the boss fight ed1 i think

Idk what to do then lmao

I still don't know what to do

[sly harness]

Once you e2 her (clear d2) you will be able to get a maxed Raidian on the Special Squad

[tired wyvern]

😂

[sly harness]

Then you only need to get all proficiencies

But they are quite easy

[faint rampart]

IS6 guide in pins

[tired wyvern]

Huh, wait what?

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[midnight summit]

Ed1 is easy tho, you can do trag+gravel strat

[tired wyvern]

Oh

[tired wyvern]

Does sakiko work well here? Also if I take trag support, I won't have a wis 😢

[midnight summit]

Sakiko is insanely good there ngl

[faint rampart]

[midnight summit]

You need blocker and 5 tiles away

[tired wyvern]

Oh great, then i can just start by recruiting her?

[tired wyvern]

Huh?

Oh yea I'm still on d0 btw

[midnight summit]

So that sakiko wont die

[tired wyvern]

Spam s3 or s2 also works?

[midnight summit]

Tragodia or exu2 borrow

[tired wyvern]

Huh alr.

[midnight summit]

S2, you can't s3 in there

S3 is very conditional, summon relic carries s2 even more

[tired wyvern]

S2 is still m1, it does not matter rt?

[tired wyvern]

Wait,u talking abt radian or sakiko?

[midnight summit]

It doesn't matter tbh, you just need the nervous impairment

[tired wyvern]

How do I get that?

[midnight summit]

More likely from just 1 cat

[midnight summit]

It's s2 cat

[tired wyvern]

Ohh alr

D2 should be very easy to do rt?

How long is one run?

[midnight summit]

Tragodia. Sakiko you can recruit further in the run since she needs either skill relics or e2

[midnight summit]

Around 1h

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[tired wyvern]

Woah damn, how many points per run? Assuming it's still 2k ish on d10 rt?

[midnight summit]

Id you understand how tp beat it it's very easy just as any IS

[tired wyvern]

Hmmm

[midnight summit]

Can be 2k, i only got 1.5k max on d9

[tired wyvern]

Should I level archetto, or save up resources for other ops first?

[tired wyvern]

Hmm alr, that's not bad, like 4 to 5 levels ish per run

[remote badger]

basically infinite if u abuse ling

[midnight summit]

Sakiko module, and leizialt module

[tired wyvern]

I heard she good in IS paired with sakiko

[tired wyvern]

Oh damn

[tired wyvern]

Oh damn, I need to get to 100 trust first tho lmao

Welp alr then

Imma go try it out

[midnight summit]

Mod2 is fine

For both

[wary bolt]

Can smb help with Sakiko start?

[tired wyvern]

Saki doesn't need mod3?

[faint rampart]

dont

😇 👍

[midnight summit]

Sakiko start is awful, you need her e2 asap

[sly harness]

Tbf if you only care about rewards... You can wait for dlc2 in IS6

The mode is broken to the point where you can get the entire battle pass in 1 d0 run

[tired wyvern]

What's that?

Plus I'm impatient, I'm just gonna clear it all rn. Plus is is fun lol

[midnight summit]

Sakiko mod3 is good yeah

[carmine token]

just wait 6 mounts 😇

[tired wyvern]

Huh?
HOOWW?

[tired wyvern]

Oh yea no need lmao

[wary bolt]

Guess I'll be a one trag pony for now

[tired wyvern]

It's not out yet? 😢

[faint rampart]

if theres no specific reason then just start with guards like ente

[carmine token]

only on cn 😇

[sly harness]

dlc2, about 5 months from now

[tired wyvern]

😢

[tired wyvern]

Wang banner time zone ?

Damn

Alr then

Thx

I'll go try it out

[faint rampart]

omg mr beast

[carmine token]

MODS!!!

FREE BOBUX

[brittle grove]

lmao

[carmine token]

@abstract marsh scam

no more bobux

[faint rampart]

cuz you snitched

[abstract marsh]

done

[carmine token]

teehee~

[wary bolt]

Why LappAlt isn't good for IS6?

[sharp harbor]

What if, modern meta units getting IS module

Exu alt IS module will allow her to redeploy range units frfr

[remote badger]

is a caster

[sly harness]

Because she isn't good in IS

[sly harness]

Just get white shoes

[woeful anchor]

cos she sucks to begin with

[carmine token]

caster are ass in is6, except cope picks like nymph or logos. Pram2 saves the caster voacher

[sly harness]

(iirc it works)

[remote badger]

the just get technology

[sharp harbor]

[wary bolt]

I'll pick guardmiyi then

[sly harness]

Amiya is a great

[robust grail]

i don't think this would be a satisfactory answer for a newbie

[carmine token]

amimi is a good start

[steel crest]

[remote badger]

rhine guardiansb

[faint rampart]

thorbs chest

[sly harness]

Opening with Jaye to eat your DP was something

[carmine token]

🧑‍💻

[steel crest]

i wanted to see if i can move the bouncers to the left

[pastel saffron]

logos and trag sweep

[wary bolt]

Are Emegency Ops > Regular Ops?

[carmine token]

yes, em gives relic

[remote badger]

more exp

[sly harness]

More EXP and Ingots

In IS6 they give coins

Although in IS6 they are actually much harder than normal variants (especially on f5+)

[jagged heath]

what's the general supporter draft prio for all IS themes? I assume it's mostly trag/haruka/ange but idk how much the order matters

not counting raidian in is6 obvi

[remote badger]

not is6 i'd skip

[midnight summit]

Tragodia is definetely, haruka is just support lol

[sly harness]

IS3 Trag, Angelina
IS4 Trag, Angelina (maybe Heidi)
IS5 in Lamp don't, or Shamare (non Lamp Trag)
IS6 Raidian, Angelian (Trag only for ed1)

You can pivot Abjurer if you lack real medics

[pastel saffron]

IS6 also haruka

[faint rampart]

fraudgoldfish didn't survive ed2

[wary bolt]

Is this gud?

[sly harness]

Not really

[wary bolt]

Skip?

[sly harness]

Yes

[wary bolt]

+15% melee atk or that?

[pastel saffron]

the first one is way way way better

Imo

extra conserve is good

[old sage]

What is foldartal?

[pastel saffron]

kind of like thoughts from IS5

but u use them on nodes

[hard sundial]

bruh, stage doesn't finish in like 20s until the mouse is out of red box

[old sage]

Ohh i see

[static dragon]

nordic rune inscriptions

[rocky agate]

Any advice for operators to bring into ending 4 of IS4?

[woeful anchor]

tragodia

[rocky agate]

No

He has not been useful

[remote badger]

some sort of phys dps

[remote badger]

he is

it just player issues

[rocky agate]

Thanks 🙄

[woeful anchor]

???

what skill r u using

[rocky agate]

Im just trying to figure out some dps ways that are more viable to the constant kill you cycle of the boss

I only use tragodia's s2

[woeful anchor]

thats your first problem

[remote badger]

u stall red with cats

[woeful anchor]

ur thinking abt kill

never abt stall

[remote badger]

till eternity

while so u kill yellow with ur physical dpses

[rocky agate]

Yea the guides I've seen have been about kill, not about stall

So its been my aim

[woeful anchor]

old guide

[rocky agate]

Only guides I see which is why Im here

[woeful anchor]

tragodia can permanently stall either boss

[rocky agate]

Yea I would like to see that if my tragodia didn't die on setup

[remote badger]

just bring ng

and ur cooking

[rocky agate]

Nightingale?

[remote badger]

yep

[rocky agate]

Dont have em

[remote badger]

then uhh

hol up

nvm

[rocky agate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-9458886823049329611

At least the story for the ending is cool

[woven prism]

hey there team are there any tricks that make the freezing knight final boss easier to kill in IS#3? having a fun time so far but I feel like I'm missing something important against the knight that freezes when you damage him, wondering if it's like teddy bear fight in is2

[woeful anchor]

where are u placing him?

left or right

[woeful anchor]

permastall with tragodia

[rocky agate]

Wherever the most recent slam down was

[rocky agate]

I used some high damage slow shot like Lemuen

[woeful anchor]

try left side placement

[rocky agate]

But yeah you could also just cat him

[woeful anchor]

wait for explosion first

[rocky agate]

Yea I just watched a video on the fight with tragodia

[woeful anchor]

on left

then deploy left

[rocky agate]

But where am I gonna be catting them

[woeful anchor]

upward

or backward

actually just watch the clear

with trag

https://youtu.be/xPHiVop9f8g

[rocky agate]

?

[woeful anchor]

1 tile to left

[sly harness]

https://is-central.github.io/is4-expeditioners/love-in-sami/

It is old

But still can be useful

[tribal pulsar]

Should I even suppress Neurodegeneration?

[pastel saffron]

its the one where ops activate skills auto?

[rocky agate]

My onlu complaint is their reliance on ela mines, I dont know how effective Im gonna be able to do it without it

[tribal pulsar]

Frozen for 15 seconds

[pastel saffron]

i mean if its on an op u dont want

sure

suppress it

[pastel saffron]

they have no relics btw

and u csn bring ops

u dont need as many mines

and u can bring more dps

also save the good foldarts for this stage

aspd, max hp and uhh rdp time one

[tribal pulsar]

Oh right, additional context

[rocky agate]

MMM, its just so rough getting a good setup into the fight

[woeful anchor]

do u have silverash

[rocky agate]

Hell naw

[pastel saffron]

suppress exia

[woeful anchor]

?

wat

[rocky agate]

I aint got him

[tribal pulsar]

Ok

[woeful anchor]

im talking abt guard

not alter btw

[rocky agate]

I dont got him?

[pastel saffron]

alter aint even out on goobla

[rocky agate]

Yeah

I aint cool enough for him yet

[tired wyvern]

@sly harness it's a pain, I got him to his second life he killed me.
Idh trag frnds oof.

Is the sui regulator squad the best one?

[wary bolt]

Whats this?

[pastel saffron]

give me ur krooster

[faint rampart]

deserved for using sakiko

[sly harness]

Not bad but nothing special

[tired wyvern]

Idh one lmao

[tired wyvern]

Gaah, I didn't use trag tho

[pastel saffron]

what difficulty?

[tired wyvern]

0 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Insane skill issue

[faint rampart]

** Scout Explained **

When you enter a Scout, you’re presented with two options:

Option 1: Temporarily remove one operator from your squad. They’ll return at the start of the next floor (or when you enter Sui’s Remnant Consciousness) and be promoted to E2. Additionally, they’ll bring back two Hope and two Coupons.

Option 2: In addition to Option 1, you must expend one LP to select this option. The chosen operator will return, promoted to E2, and acquire the Candleguest status. They’ll still bring back two Hope and two Coupons.

Note: There’s a bug at the moment. If your borrowed operator becomes an E1 Candleguest through Pathfinder’s once-per-game option and is sent away using Scout’s option 1, they’ll return but will lose their Candleguest status.

[sly harness]

Special Squad and Def/Sup are the best because e2 Raidian start (once you have her e2 that is)

[tired wyvern]

Why does IS feel so different and difficult again 😭

[pastel saffron]

lemme tell you how to win

choose defendee suppporter, borrow a hoshi, recruit haruka u won

saki can help dps the boss if you want, lemon can delete reat of the stage

[tired wyvern]

Till then trag start?

[sly harness]

Should work the best

[pastel saffron]

https://youtu.be/4s7LyIcqXvs

[tired wyvern]

So haruka will clear the boss? Should I just plop her down in front of boss?

[pastel saffron]

@tired wyvern watch this

wis cam be replaced by anyone

in ur case lemon

[tired wyvern]

S3? How do u hv so many artifacts 😭

[pastel saffron]

I shop rob f1

but anyways

I bring Amiya coz I had the negative relic

ops lose 2% hp/second

for 60s

otherwise she wasnt needed

first enemy wouldnt leak with a vg

but I didnt bring one

[sinful sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173925642102902864.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=ReallyNah

[pastel saffron]

that was bad placement for wis too icl

she kept shooting thr bombs

place her facing left

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron

Which danger level?

Did u do that on?

[pastel saffron]

10, but u can do on 15 too, I have video for 15 as well

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[tired wyvern]

Holy shit, so just hoshi2 support and I won?

[pastel saffron]

yrs

yes

[tired wyvern]

Is haruka even needed?

[pastel saffron]

Just take her she's the best

Hoshi maybe can survive on her own with relics

[tired wyvern]

So just heli drop hoshi 2 infront of boss?

Also e2?

[pastel saffron]

but haruka is the safety net

obv

[tired wyvern]

Idk which relics to take 😢

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[tired wyvern]

Then can I just place haruka and hoshi in front of the blue box?

[pastel saffron]

just take whatever seems good u dont need to overly rely on them

red box

yes

[tired wyvern]

Cuz hoshi does not die anyways?

[tired wyvern]

Hmm, if I take hoshi2 support, I don't even need to do anything else, she is effectively immortal

[pastel saffron]

also do def supp

Hoshi will not be e2 when u borrow her

the first supp voucher u get, conserve it, it will e2 haruka for free on f2 pathfinder

similarly u will get defender voucher from shop, conserve it as well, u can e2 hoshi with that

afterwards you just need guard or sniper voucher and you win

[tired wyvern]

Oh damn, can e1 hoshi rob f1 shop?

Oh yea, how many points per game?

[pastel saffron]

without raidian? idt she can ngl

well u dont need to shop rob at d0

[midnight summit]

Yea ed1 is easy, you can even do tragodia and gravel its almost the same to stall the boss at the top but it has different video example

[pastel saffron]

no idea tbh maybe a 1000

[midnight summit]

1k-1.5k

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[midnight summit]

Depends if you rob cannot(usually don't)

[tired wyvern]

Hmm

[tired wyvern]

D10?

[tired wyvern]

I got 600 for that failed run

[midnight summit]

Yes

[midnight summit]

I was talking about it before

[woeful anchor]

rough
u got other CC options?

[pastel saffron]

doesnt rdp foldart affect cat?

[woeful anchor]

idk

[pastel saffron]

I think it does

[midnight summit]

Is it tongbao?

[pastel saffron]

no IS4

[midnight summit]

Or am i tripping

[pastel saffron]

foldart

[midnight summit]

K wait I'll read description

If it's global or summon then it affects the cat

[tired wyvern]

Ah alr

[midnight summit]

I don't think it is

Oh wait it can

I misread

[rocky agate]

Leizi Alter

[pastel saffron]

no way trag s3 leizi s1 stall

hmm u could block with someone and do 3 leizi s1 ro keep him in place for a bit

[sly harness]

Leizi and cc...

[midnight summit]

It works

If it works it works

As a programmer

[rocky agate]

Trust

Idk I could just send my ops and have em get torn apart

[pastel saffron]

are u on d15

[rocky agate]

D1...

Im just tryna learn the boss

[pastel saffron]

BROTHER

Just bring some dps

like wisadel s3

or logos

boss will melt

fuck trag or cc

u can just brute force the fuck out of the boss

[rocky agate]

I dont want to just melt the boss man I actually wanna try and work with it

[pastel saffron]

Just use trag s2 and dps then

u can even do it on d15

if u hsve good roll

like genuinely previous solves were ceobe

[sly harness]

If you want to understand the stage check the guide I linked. Everything is described there

[rocky agate]

Yeah I skimmed it but its 4 am, Im not understanding any of it until tomorrow lmao

[sly harness]

Understand

[stray igloo]

this is my life

[sly harness]

I like to play at 4 a.m. you close your eyes for a second and you are dead

[sly harness]

-2 Hope always

[faint rampart]

i like to play at 4 a.m. you close your eyes and its 8 am but statuegist is still not dead

[rocky agate]

true

[stray igloo]

I wanted to gamble

[rocky agate]

I always pay with hope, everytime I gamble for the night he always goes away

Weighted dice...

[pastel saffron]

not really

if u get between 2~6

he stats

so only 16% failure chance

which is nth

https://youtu.be/S8lqkLHwsho

This was my first attempt on red and yellow king

Its not that hard

even when u goof around

u win

[stray dove]

new ops will always be the cheat code

for old IS

[pastel saffron]

tbh I felt this everywhere bur IS2

I played d9 IS2 and I was like wtf is this

negative debuffs on debuffs, more debuffs, with a sprinkle of debuffs and lastly some more debuffs for taste

with a side of debuffs

if you want desert more debuffs

[sly harness]

Idk IS2 floors 1-4 are still quite trivial

But on f5 the stats can jump quite a bit

Like 3k per hit from those caster killed me once

[rocky agate]

Yeah but I have brain eating amoebas, you must understand that it impedes winning ever

[sly harness]

I totally wasn't expecting that

[lost anchor]

are lxh and scoot used in is5

trynna decide on who to use e2 tix on

[pastel saffron]

well 1~4 is trivial everywhere basically

[pastel saffron]

who is lxh

[sly harness]

Not in IS5

[faint rampart]

i heard in help that scoot is used in is5

[lost anchor]

luoxiaohei

yan lord

[sudden cloak]

My dumbass forgot to use relocation and proc Patriot ending in back to back run

[pastel saffron]

for IS5 u have ps, Indigo, gummy maybe and may

[lost anchor]

done with those except indigo

hmm

what you think

[sly harness]

Niche in IS6

[pastel saffron]

do indigo instead

[sly harness]

Can be lv1

Mainly drafted because Yan

[pastel saffron]

scoot Mika told me smth about him being good IS6 post dlc2

[pastel saffron]

but idk if u e2 or not

[sly harness]

Windscoot? Currently the best 4* DPS

Also useful in IS6

[lost anchor]

hmm indigo or scoot

[sly harness]

e1 Raidian open will need his damage on f1 on d18

[pastel saffron]

will u ever play IS5 sniper medic, if so indigo

otherwise scoot

[sly harness]

Indigo is mainly drafted in IS5 for cc

[pastel saffron]

she can bind boats, tech

[lost anchor]

hmmm might just go scoot then

[pastel saffron]

also ros pillar feeder

[sly harness]

And Qui'lon

[lost anchor]

did scoot. I like is6

[pastel saffron]

u like twinks u mean

[robust grail]

no

windscoot is an okay cope 0 hope draft

just hold onto the voucher

[delicate karma]

is tinman available only from gacha? or where do i get him

also is tinman a must in IS5

[remote badger]

is5 welfare

[twin trench]

i'm starting to feel hopeless about IS6

the numbers of luck need just to get ending 2

we haven't talk about operators and other rng

[sly harness]

You can get ed2 very consistently. get all the possible Candles (go through Bosky on every floor) and you will be able to check entire 5x5 grid and definitely find ed2 somewhere

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron
Was not able to clear cuz I could not get the pathfinder for some reason, I'm always low on hope.

I am using the sui regulator squad maybe that's y?

Im prolly gonna do IS4 now, ill do IS6 once the d0 run for the full battle pass thingy is out, by then I'll finish the previous ones.

Plus i anyways only need lmd and exp anyways.

I'm coping

[faint rampart]

have you checked the guide in pins

wtf wall

[tired wyvern]

[faint rampart]

[sly harness]

Time to explode to f1 stages

[tired wyvern]

Wdym?

Me dumb

[sly harness]

IS4 f1 stages can destroy you if your draft is completely random

(although maybe not on d0)

[bold fog]

Is Purestream enough for ending 3? Or should I aim to get Eyja alter? I don't think Haruka is good since her range is kinda limited?

[stray dove]

Eyja's range ain't gonna be helpful unless you have a good S3 uptime

[bold fog]

Oh are you not using S1?

[stray dove]

ok first of all, which IS?

just want to make sure

[bold fog]

IS6

[stray dove]

have you seen what IS6 Ed3 map looks like

[remote badger]

say the diff number

[bold fog]

Didn't manage to get there cause I got 0 medic vouchers in the run 😅. My only healer was Gummy

[bold fog]

Diff 10

[remote badger]

good

[bold fog]

I am guessing Haruka in the middle here?

[remote badger]

very suicidal move

[pastel saffron]

Bro I told you to use Defender Supporter wth

pathfinder is guaranteed on start of floor 2, go the route with pathfinder into wonderland

on f3 take pathfinder again whatever route it is, same with f4 and f5

conserve all vouchers you get

its so easy

IS6 is piss

[woeful anchor]

wtf wangussy

[bold fog]

I meant the middle from the right side. My bad. I know she would get stunned

[tired wyvern]

I I'd use the steady team rhing

[pastel saffron]

isnt the middle occupied by the reserve caster, place on her on right side tiles, in the middle

not in the middle of the damn stage

[remote badger]

maybe

[sudden cloak]

Thats the usual haruka placement yea

[remote badger]

kill the cannons first

[faint rampart]

[bold fog]

Wis'adel them?

[remote badger]

wis is unintuitively piss in is6

[pastel saffron]

u could wis them too

I think

I have done it before

Exia can also kill

safest open is a liberator

in front of blue box

[bold fog]

I guess Leizi alter then

[pastel saffron]

I can handhold u on stream sometime

as in tell u what to do

Its very easy tbf

[lost anchor]

not the twink allegation

[rotund copper]

This sum bullshit

[pastel saffron]

deserved for not buying medicmiya skin

[earnest shuttle]

I dont remember having any enemies that can eat your ops in this stage

Is this the eye ?

[faint rampart]

[tired wyvern]

Ahh alr, whenever I'm free I'll lyk, but tbh idk im gonna do it lmao.

[sly harness]

Only 4 operators on f3

Ig you can also use Wis to nuke the Spine then you get 1 extra melee body (Amiya guard) just in the cases you get dog

[topaz reef]

ISTG I WISH YU OR WHATEVER THAT BOSSES NAME IN IS5 STEPS ON A EFFING LEGO EVERYDAY OF HIS LIFE

[pastel saffron]

why is bro raging

just br a chill guy

[stray dove]

question

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron

U free rn?

[faint rampart]

answer

[stray dove]

is Fremont alt still considered the hardest Ed1 boss?

[tired wyvern]

He has an alter

[pastel saffron]

sure

[stray dove]

not RNG

you have to trigger it

[pastel saffron]

noway fremont alt is harder than highmore

[tired wyvern]

Uuh, I'll call u?

[stray dove]

yeah i was about to ask

[pastel saffron]

ok matbe it is

[stray dove]

ICI, Fremont Alt, Highmore

who's harder?

[pastel saffron]

coz highmore is trivialized

with

weedy

[stray dove]

Weedy

yeah...

but that means bringing a weedy....which is yeah...fucking normal in IS3 by this point

[pastel saffron]

ICI is IS4 Ed1 right, its pretty hard but thr fact its d15

[stray dove]

it's an investment

to make Phase 2 Highmore disappear and then hole Izumik

[pastel saffron]

it can be harder

[pastel saffron]

u can strim in the strim channel

[tired wyvern]

Kk, but I won't be having my mic on much, my family is sleeping, that's alr with u?

[pastel saffron]

sure I will also type

just ask in the chat where I pinged u

[tired wyvern]

Nono, I'm on phone lmao

@pastel saffron ping me again

[pastel saffron]

ok

@tired wyvern we can also jus chat here btw

[faint rampart]

[tired wyvern]

Ahh that's alr, I can that, would u be able dictate the run? I'll listen with my mic off

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron, imma stream now ig., i can't talk, so just guide me, I'll keep my mic off

[pastel saffron]

I got heavy accent u wont be able to understand me eitherway

[tired wyvern]

Trust me i can

I have a worse one lol

[pastel saffron]

gimme 5 mins need to do smth

[tired wyvern]

Alr, when u ready ping me, and I'll screen share

[midnight summit]

Start the stream alr

[broken belfry]

I've got a question: I'm going for Ending 2 in IS6, can Tragodia (level 70, S2M3, module leve 1) keep alone the left side of the map? I only have 18 LP

[tired wyvern]

Alr. But it might cut in between, I'm on a potato phone, just one run

[midnight summit]

I don't think so. You need more lp iirc

[faint rampart]

17

[remote badger]

u can -17 it

[midnight summit]

But eitherway to not leak other 2

[broken belfry]

I'm not that confident I can play without going into panic mode

[faint rampart]

wha?

[faint rampart]

as long as you have raidian exu, you should be fine
trust them

[tired wyvern]

@ice @midnight summit fuck it I'll try it by myself

Screen not sharing for some reason

Mb

[midnight summit]

It's black lol

[tired wyvern]

Could u share the screen and do a run?

I'll watch?

[midnight summit]

Ig it's just mobile discord problem

[tired wyvern]

That's would be better lol

[tired wyvern]

Yea

[tired wyvern]

??

@midnight summit

[pastel saffron]

i can do that as well but might need to go midway

[tired wyvern]

Yea that's alr

The run is like 40 min anyways rt?

[midnight summit]

I'll be busy and need to charge my phone. My phone charger broke recently so I'm trying squeezing out until monday

[native umbra]

is there an autowim strat on is5 for a18 and triple ed? i tried lamp strat and got cooked

[pastel saffron]

more or less

[tired wyvern]

Will u start sharing ur screen rn? @pastel saffron

[remote badger]

yes

[pastel saffron]

sure

[tired wyvern]

Alr share ur screen

[tired wyvern]

Same situation as me 😢

[remote badger]

u just dont abuse lamp too much

[pastel saffron]

can u see? @tired wyvern

like is it clear

[tired wyvern]

Yea

[native umbra]

so just aim for king relic?

and just do battles

[remote badger]

play something like 135 instead of 245

[pastel saffron]

screen share is only black when ur screen recording iirc

[remote badger]

2 kings is doable

[tired wyvern]

Holy shit nice keyboard effects 🤣

[midnight summit]

Not really

[remote badger]

its recommended to rob on f4

[native umbra]

yeah i got cooked at 3 : ☠️

[native umbra]

wym by this

[sinful sparrow]

rob cannot on floor 4

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron no sound?

[pastel saffron]

u can't hear?

there is sound

[tired wyvern]

No lemme rejoin, tbh it doesn't matter anyways, I just want the run

[pastel saffron]

what diff u want me to do

[midnight summit]

Do d8

[tired wyvern]

Diff 10? Only hoshi2 and haruka

[pastel saffron]

I will recruit more stuff

like lemon leizi

I hooe thats fine

[tired wyvern]

Ahh alr bet

[pastel saffron]

otherwise its unnecessarily hard lol

[tired wyvern]

Yea ok

[remote badger]

lastly only play with 1 hand or 0

[hearty blaze]

Is surfer a somehow decent replacement if i don't have ines?

[remote badger]

yes

[native umbra]

uh

[tired wyvern]

I can use ur own hoshi, i hv a frnd with pot7 maxed out

[hearty blaze]

Oh

[midnight summit]

Not really replacement but its fine as an agent

[remote badger]

it is

but

no invis reveal

[hearty blaze]

Maybe there's someone better idk

I don't have ines

[hearty blaze]

Ohhh

[remote badger]

its fine

[tired wyvern]

@pastel saffron I got sound now yaaay

[hearty blaze]

Ines has that?☠️

That's crazy

[remote badger]

surfer talent goated

[midnight summit]

Same

[pastel saffron]

wdym

[native umbra]

any recommend for units, i usually start with gg

[remote badger]

avoid undulation

[midnight summit]

Screensharing sounds now, it didn't before you got called

[remote badger]

things like uhh

hoe

[pastel saffron]

always take route with more fights on f1

[remote badger]

ros greyyalt krooster silence purestream ethan vgs

kal m3

also wis

[native umbra]

why

[stray dove]

holy shit....

[tired wyvern]

Yea alr.

[remote badger]

2 nodes
6* mechaccord is sth

[tired wyvern]

Now only sheild s2 sound is there lmfao.

But the screen is clearly visible

So no problemo

[remote badger]

robbing is also very rng-ish

since u have to pray that none of lappalt or gg drone touch cannot

and hands have higher prio than anything else

even chalice

[midnight summit]

LMAO

@pastel saffron godlike rng to be unlucky

[pastel saffron]

chat is this lucky

@tired wyvern can u show me ur ops again

idk if u have any vanguard

I wss gon pick canta here

[tired wyvern]

Ines

[pastel saffron]

oh I'll jus pick canta

[pastel saffron]

ines is better but more hope

if u want I can pick ines as well

[tired wyvern]

Hmm alr

[pastel saffron]

my dc is so bugged with text

[tired wyvern]

Ye lol

[pastel saffron]

ill jus go ines

can yall still see?

[midnight summit]

Yes

[tired wyvern]

Yes

[midnight summit]

@pastel saffron are you going ed1 or ed2?

[pastel saffron]

ed1

this is certainly a bosky

[midnight summit]

Then mirror is insanely good

[pastel saffron]

what mirror, in the shop?

oh -90% on first attack

[midnight summit]

That you got from node

[pastel saffron]

I am pretty sure I cant win

the battle

well Ig I'll try

hoshi simply doesnt have the uptime

to deal with dragons

[midnight summit]

Hoshi s3 can prolly do something

[pastel saffron]

yeah I simply cant deal with the golem

nd then dragons

[midnight summit]

That was unfortunate, should've placed hoshi and ines first

[tired wyvern]

Idk if that would have made a diff, cuz another golem was in its way regardless and the other min would have leaked

[severe hornet]

Out of curiosity, how good is sakichan as a carry in is6?

[remote badger]

need e2

[tired wyvern]

She carries?

At e2

[remote badger]

to function properly

[tired wyvern]

Damn

[remote badger]

her s3 is good tho

[severe hornet]

She's currently e2 m6

Mod 1 still though

How important is the harem for her to function well in is6 due to the extended range?

[remote badger]

optional

[pastel saffron]

its usually a non issue because you always take raidian after d2, but I just didnt

all good tho

[severe hornet]

Other than archetto, is there anyone else good with her?

Any final boss she is good against?

[remote badger]

idk...?

[midnight summit]

Mon3tr ig for atk and aspd

It's optional but its only medic that's good for team out of 6☆

[tired wyvern]

Oh yea shit, after I'm done with d2, is radian start better or hoshi start into radian recruitment better?

Cuz hosi is support for me lmfao

[pastel saffron]

raidian is better

[tired wyvern]

Alr thx.

[sly harness]

You get free Raidian on Special Squad

[tired wyvern]

How to unlock?

[remote badger]

clear d2

[tired wyvern]

Clear d2 for a maxed out radian?

Damn son

[remote badger]

yes it just that simple

[midnight summit]

You upgrade special squad after that

[tired wyvern]

Ahh alr thx

[remote badger]

but her talent isnt maxed

[midnight summit]

It doesn't have raidian at first iirc

[tired wyvern]

Doe it matter?

[tired wyvern]

Huh, then better off using my own radian lmao

[midnight summit]

Her specializations makes her insanely worth to pick: like summon dp reduction, her hope cost reduction, atk and def buffs and her insanely good dps s2 and s3 and placing 4 or 5 summons at the same time

[midnight summit]

It has already maxed raidian there

[tired wyvern]

Holy shit

[tired wyvern]

Oh great

[midnight summit]

I hate this one stage

Either raidian s2 cheese or hoshi s3

[tired wyvern]

Ahh

[tired wyvern]

The one ice just did?

[midnight summit]

Yea