is-station

[prime mountain]

[sly harness]

But now I have my own p2 Leizi so I am fine with p5 Ente

[prime mountain]

Leizi wonky targeting being useful for once

[rapid pulsar]

wait did expansion happen yet?

[prime mountain]

Nah

We're still on good version

[rapid pulsar]

ah

poo

[gaunt bay]

ah yes the three versions: bad, worse, and is5part2

[prime mountain]

Nuh its good, even better and then is5part2

[gaunt bay]

25 sp cost

45 second cycles are kinda nutty

[gaunt bay]

highroll, highroll+, is5 talons

[prime mountain]

Her s2 being like, everything guardmiya can do but better is so fucking funny

Truly her teacher

[gaunt bay]

s2 loos like its meant to be degen powercreep but for st

maybe shes jane sentinel

[prime mountain]

Someone is gonna do a s3 giga buff one shot you just know it

Simply get +2000% arts damage amp 👍

[severe oasis]

whats the total dmg on s2 and s3

i dont feel like doing it

[gaunt bay]

large.

[severe oasis]

Thanks

[prime mountain]

Massive even

[gaunt bay]

idt youre able to get s3 numbers

since theres % damage involved

[dusk creek]

Degen is like 410% atk scale with 30% def ignore

So you can compare s2 with that

But it’s ST so

[prime mountain]

Pretty similar cause arts sucks

Toughts

[dusk creek]

It can be arts or phys

[prime mountain]

Oh right forgot her passive fuck

[dusk creek]

against cresson though it’s probably phys cause 50 res

[prime mountain]

yeah I give up bro, wasted like 4 candles on impossible fights

[gaunt bay]

so yeah its just

[prime mountain]

Why confusion so hard 😭

[gaunt bay]

better degen

[prime mountain]

nuh huh she doesnt pull

!

[severe oasis]

did they learn how to make arts guards after vivi and vina

[prime mountain]

If by "learnt" you mean just giga buff the fuck out of their stats then yeah

[severe oasis]

as in not make them giga ass

[gaunt bay]

yeah its called

giving chen physical damage

[prime mountain]

Bruh I can arduous trade with 6 coupons and get bosky + pathfind on next floor nevermind this run works

[severe oasis]

arts is so shit we need to give the arts guard phys dmg for her to be good

[prime mountain]

Truly arts damage dealer

[remote badger]

hi kiwi

[gaunt bay]

hai meow

:3

[remote badger]

:3

[gaunt bay]

its literally 9/11 for degen fans

chen3 + irene alpha

"mr president a degen powercreep has hit the game"

[remote badger]

[copper orchid]

The dragon is phy dmg or arts

[prime mountain]

Which dragon?

[gaunt bay]

should bea rts

s3 having triple hit 210% atk is funny

thats like

[copper orchid]

Chen s3

[gaunt bay]

4k dps?

from main attacks alone

and then theres the dragon

wait talent 1

so like

5500 dps

from main attacks alone

[paper notch]

🥹

[gaunt bay]

💀

[prime mountain]

Truly a unit of all time

[gaunt bay]

so like

110k total skill damage from main attacks alone

and then a bit from her sword thingy

on 45 second cycle

ok

wait wdym its atkscale

fuck so shes like

turbo buffable as well

[paper notch]

yeah...

[flint token]

“waiter waiter more atkscale slop please!”

[prime mountain]

Are you an arts guard or a swordmaster:
yes

[paper notch]

she's also arts guard

[stray dove]

....so we're finally getting the Geexu of Guard

[paper notch]

so a buff from bard makes up a big increase

[stray dove]

incoming Geexu, Ch3n, Hoshitter, Pralter quad supercarry

[gaunt bay]

4 target range expansion btw

its like all arts damage though so like

idk

[woeful anchor]

yeah they learnt by giving the arts guard phys dmg...

design 101

[stray dove]

it feels like an evolution from their idea with Sakiko

sakiko dealt mixed damage but each attack prios who has weaker DEF or weaker RES

Ch3n got the better package from that experiment

[woeful anchor]

thats nice and all but irene A cant replace degen in ed5

[stray dove]

by just making the attack adjust rather than throw 2 damage types

[woeful anchor]

if chen no iframe cant replace degen either ‼️

[stray dove]

considering Ch3n would most likely be built

like an evolution of Chen Guard

I reckon she has invul

[copper orchid]

Does chen dragon work like yato if it hits big target multiple times?

[stray dove]

Chen S3 has invul

[flint token]

in what universe is chen not gonna have iframes bruh

unless s3

[woeful anchor]

idfk bruh

bro acts like i make the ops

we can only speculate

[gaunt bay]

irene gets heal on hit

[woeful anchor]

speculation...

[stray dove]

out of all the swordmaster nukes, Irene's the only one prone to retaliation damage

[gaunt bay]

🤫

[woeful anchor]

what

[gaunt bay]

surely

[flint token]

omg mods spekulators!!!

[gaunt bay]

wait is mods out

[woeful anchor]

damn bro is now lying

[woeful anchor]

no

[gaunt bay]

okay then she will get heal on hit

ez

[woeful anchor]

cope

[gaunt bay]

🚬

[prime mountain]

Yeah we know what Irene mod does its some weird teleport shenanigans on levitate end lemme pull it up

[copper orchid]

Yes

Its just not in game

[gaunt bay]

oh

yawn

[woeful anchor]

theres no condition

[flint token]

maybe we should tear out kiwi’s spinal cord for this

[woeful anchor]

u dont know

fully

how itworks

[copper orchid]

Condition should be deployment cd

[prime mountain]

yeah its kinda vague

[woeful anchor]

basically = useless

[remote badger]

spinal cord

[stray dove]

condition is censored for now

[remote badger]

wtf r u thinking

[copper orchid]

Cuz why would they give a 60% rdp down

[woeful anchor]

so a frd where u cant change position

bruh

[flint token]

All the cables around the spine is called spinal cords right

[remote badger]

yes

[woeful anchor]

if true then swire irene would go hard

[gaunt bay]

do you have the original chinese text?

[remote badger]

basically ur making that ppl become totally disabled

[copper orchid]

The neat thing is that the effect remains, whatever frd u put in the original area is levitated for enemy

[gaunt bay]

nice image quality

[stray dove]

indeed

[woeful anchor]

yu mod is piss

[stray dove]

it's for ants

[woeful anchor]

hg sucks

[prime mountain]

You can zoom bozo

[woeful anchor]

🥀

[remote badger]

but the quality

[gaunt bay]

no you cant

[stray dove]

Ok Fib. I'm the Yu burn lover.
You just love his twinkness

[remote badger]

its so piss bruh

[woeful anchor]

why does hg release cute op then give them a piss kit

[stray dove]

that module's good

[gaunt bay]

the version you posted is shit quality

:icant:

[prime mountain]

Is this not readable...

[woeful anchor]

???

[prime mountain]

smh

[woeful anchor]

yu burn isnt viable

thats why i call it piss

[copper orchid]

Hopefully there are more conditions than just deployment cd

[stray dove]

Fib....SURPRISE! There's game modes outside IS

i know

[copper orchid]

Dude how am i supposed to deploy her in other place if there isnt

[stray dove]

it shocked me too

[prime mountain]

Nuh uh

proof?

[woeful anchor]

even outside IS its not viable

for low ops

ofc

[gaunt bay]

idk either the total skill damage is good or the conditions are easy

[stray dove]

low ops jesus christ

you can't stop flexing

no matter where you go

[woeful anchor]

wat

[gaunt bay]

oh "conditions"

[flint token]

never falter never fail

[gaunt bay]

hm

[woeful anchor]

bruh

[gaunt bay]

theres probably multiple

[woeful anchor]

is the conditions when bait wins sgl

[prime mountain]

She also has like, -60% redeployment time so huh

[woeful anchor]

(never)

[prime mountain]

soul escort irene anyone?

[copper orchid]

Dang u gotta think about RA

[woeful anchor]

RA 💀 💀

[copper orchid]

RA2 is coming!!!

[stray dove]

they really should jsut make a fucking IS squad that lowers redep time

[woeful anchor]

oh ya chen is top1 op in ra now i think

[woeful anchor]

swire...

[stray dove]

and make it be on every IS

[gaunt bay]

Im reading it as the friendly unit deployment conditional

[woeful anchor]

soul escort

[prime mountain]

Soul escort...

[woeful anchor]

what

?????

[stray dove]

EVERY! IS!

you dumbfucks

[prime mountain]

Nuh uh don't touch is4

Or I murder you

[gaunt bay]

so you activate skill, deploy operator in her skill range, retreat her after skill ends, enemy gets unlevitated, irene comes back and nukes again

[flint token]

me on the way to add soul escort to is2
*Cuts to a mangled corpse on emer justice

[woeful anchor]

bro if u give soul escort to other IS

it will devolve to kafka perma

💀

[stray dove]

Unfortunately, I don't have Complete Cecity.
So I touch IS4 everyday

[woeful anchor]

every stage solveable with kafka perma if no slep immune

[gaunt bay]

ok so everyhing sleep immune

gg ez

[prime mountain]

IS3 with everyone having 0 immunity 💀

[gaunt bay]

but like

since theyre doing that

wait

[copper orchid]

I think its u can still levitate enemy if u deploy anyone in her skill range even when she retreated

[gaunt bay]

theyre specifying skill range

not normal range

so you can do it on non skill

[copper orchid]

Ye

[gaunt bay]

right

so

frd

and proc her over and over again

?

[copper orchid]

Yes

Procs the levitate

[woeful anchor]

tldr the preview is useless

[gaunt bay]

yeah and

levitate ends

[woeful anchor]

cos we dont fucken know how it works

[gaunt bay]

and irene comes back

[prime mountain]

So ho'ol s1 relevance for levitate or does it need to be hers?

[gaunt bay]

and she has skill instantly up again

[woeful anchor]

gg wait for mod in ril server

[gaunt bay]

and then another skill

[proven dagger]

i think wisadel suckjs

[copper orchid]

Ig so

[woeful anchor]

cold ass take

[gaunt bay]

so basically irene's redep time is frd redep time now

[proven dagger]

i think every IS mod sucks too

[dusk creek]

she gets redeployed once you fulful the deployment conditions

implication is that includes irene's rdp time

[proven dagger]

did you guys see Jun

[woeful anchor]

wait thats piss

swire irene technologies ig

[gaunt bay]

surely

[dusk creek]

that's why they gave her -60% rdp time

otherwise her own rdp time wouldn't matter at all

[flint token]

Grasping for my dp

[proven dagger]

oh im totally gonna be drafting her for speccast now

[stray dove]

wdym it wouldn't have mattered?

wasn't the point is for her to

drop, do a second nuking

and you redep her like a Skadi S2 RDP build?

[woeful anchor]

the free deploy dont cost dp

lmao

[prime mountain]

Do we know?

[gaunt bay]

yeah but you need to drop another unit

[woeful anchor]

its written there

[gaunt bay]

which does cost dp

[prime mountain]

Ok but I cant read so proof?

[woeful anchor]

drop like yato

or someshit

[proven dagger]

wait

[stray dove]

the wording

ally unit or operator?

cause ally unit's easy

[woeful anchor]

trag catto

[proven dagger]

dorothy + irene technology...

[gaunt bay]

this is the er

SA tech surely

[prime mountain]

Wang tech???

[woeful anchor]

ewwww

sa

[prime mountain]

!

[woeful anchor]

ewww

[gaunt bay]

no

like

sa2

[proven dagger]

fuck wang

[woeful anchor]

wang wtf

arts dmg cringe

[gaunt bay]

sa2 technology

:clueless:

[stray dove]

some would say yes

[proven dagger]

wait

[woeful anchor]

kiwi ur so slop

[proven dagger]

hear me out

[prime mountain]

Sa2 tech is just: the game

[gaunt bay]

idk man wang looks pretty mid to me

[proven dagger]

Mitm technology

[copper orchid]

Just trust double sa

[woeful anchor]

@sinful sparrow behavior

[proven dagger]

mitm

• irene

[woeful anchor]

bro...

[gaunt bay]

nah 10% redep on sa1 is so piss man

[woeful anchor]

stop cooking

[proven dagger]

i wonder if spalter redeploy would trigger irene

then its like

lesbian

[gaunt bay]

plus shares guard ticket with irene

you want like mly anyways as well

[prime mountain]

Holy fuck, ulpi s3 spam + irene!!!!

[gaunt bay]

so like

[proven dagger]

#LesbianDeployments

[prime mountain]

She gives phys amp!!!

[sinful sparrow]

ur so cringe

[woeful anchor]

slop

[gaunt bay]

where guard ticket

i think maybe theres sa2 tech

[prime mountain]

I see it guys, gvg irene ulpi core!

[proven dagger]

wait

[woeful anchor]

damn bro didnt deny it

[proven dagger]

I HAVE TECH

[stray dove]

in GVG

[proven dagger]

HEAR ME OUT

[woeful anchor]

gaeass

[stray dove]

[gaunt bay]

cuz you can use irene skill right

[proven dagger]

THRM-EX + IRENE

THE DEBUFF

[woeful anchor]

????

[proven dagger]

AND NUKE

[gaunt bay]

sa2 is core anyways

you tkae him anyways

[woeful anchor]

300s rdp

[gaunt bay]

its just a bonus

i think theres potential

[prime mountain]

bro she has built in phys amp I dont think it stacks

[woeful anchor]

mf just deploy ela mine

[fickle jungle]

man wtf is this cynikr guy saying

[proven dagger]

alternatively

W S2

• Irene

[stray dove]

phys amp =/= fragile

[gaunt bay]

w

bruh

[proven dagger]

W S2 + IRENE

[stray dove]

if you've done arts nuking

[proven dagger]

CMON

[stray dove]

you'd know

[gaunt bay]

what is he saying

[stray dove]

there's arts amp, arts frag, and frag

all are diff

it doesn't even include RES shred

[woeful anchor]

arts isnt real

i dont make the rules

[gaunt bay]

does er

chen s2

[prime mountain]

Arts is phys now apparently yep

[proven dagger]

i dind't realize she had phys amp

[gaunt bay]

still take reflect damage

[proven dagger]

wait

is thrmex arts amp

or amp in general

i haven't looked at his kit in yearsss dowg

[prime mountain]

Fragile I think?

[proven dagger]

oh

[stray dove]

frag

[proven dagger]

i think W S2 + Irene is promising

[woeful anchor]

mf just wait for release

ur so slop

[gaunt bay]

😔

[proven dagger]

hmm

exu2

irene

[gaunt bay]

bruh whats the point

[proven dagger]

deploy irene

wait

oh

[prime mountain]

[proven dagger]

deploy op

wait

[prime mountain]

Dont let him cook

[gaunt bay]

70 second cooldonw

[proven dagger]

wait lemme think this through

[gaunt bay]

no thanks ill use my 230k total skill damage hoshi

💤

[proven dagger]

hoshi more like

onislop

you only like her cuz they're japanese

[gaunt bay]

what

[prime mountain]

This lungmen profanities behavior will not be tolerated, straight to the slur re-education program!

[proven dagger]

crownslayer + irene

[gaunt bay]

she lives in china

🫃

[proven dagger]

actually i take this back

irene would levitate

so crownslayer would

do nothing

[prime mountain]

CS the CC queen bro she fell off 🥀

[proven dagger]

i still draft her

[stray dove]

when i asked if it said ally unit or ops

[proven dagger]

i dont have mod3 yet tho

[stray dove]

I'm talking Raidian summons

jesus christ

[proven dagger]

how original

[stray dove]

the bare minimum to aid conditions

[prime mountain]

R*dian slop nah

[copper orchid]

What u know about the

Irene cheeto strat

[gaunt bay]

sounds dogshit

irene mod is built to not be on field most of the time anyways

[proven dagger]

irene cheeto strat?

[prime mountain]

But it works on any levitate so you can do ho'ol s1 alongside it right? is this crazy

[gaunt bay]

dude yall are like overdosing on copium idk

[prime mountain]

(ange prob better)

[proven dagger]

oh

i know

[gaunt bay]

does the "skill range" thing linger or something

[proven dagger]

Misery + Irene

yes

[prime mountain]

I mean it has to otherwise she just redeploys all the way accross the map?

How would that work

[proven dagger]

After deployment, immediately deals 300% ATK as Physical damage to all surrounding enemies, then uses spatial Originium Arts to drag all unblocked enemies slightly towards this unit and Slows them for 4s

[gaunt bay]

if it lingers when undeployed then its just like free ela ming but better probably

[flint token]

Watch as the mod comes out for real

[gaunt bay]

?

[flint token]

and your predictions missed every mark

[prime mountain]

Like she keeps moving doing another nuke then moving again that would be weird

[proven dagger]

her skill range just lingers where she was last placed

[prime mountain]

Yeah that has to be how it works

[proven dagger]

i hope the skill range appears on the map tho

[gaunt bay]

so like

[proven dagger]

it would be weird if it didn't

[gaunt bay]

an ines thing?

[proven dagger]

yeah

like ines thing

[gaunt bay]

idk

[woeful anchor]

just remember

bruh

skill issue

[proven dagger]

its free nuke every 16s

[gaunt bay]

this is the most useless reveal ever

[proven dagger]

or so

i think its cool and fun

[woeful anchor]

bruh

[gaunt bay]

:icant:

[woeful anchor]

thats what ive been saying

mfs tell me mod is out

but its a nothingburger

[gaunt bay]

oops no info

nice "conditions"

[dusk creek]

the mod stats are not even out 🥲

[woeful anchor]

gz u dont know half the infos :realmad:

[dusk creek]

just wait

[woeful anchor]

ye time to wait

[gaunt bay]

meet potential module:
"when conditions are met"
"in skill range (when undeployed)"

[proven dagger]

yeah

the conditions is like

play game

🤫

condition: bring specter alter

[gaunt bay]

its like

wow this is so useful

[proven dagger]

i mean

its better than leaving the information out

[stray dove]

it's hilarious how much i remember Irene from RA (due to being one of the better farming ops during that time)
and she's so prone to retaliation damage

[proven dagger]

imo

oh yeah she has aoe too that's bound to do something funny with reflect

[sinful sparrow]

slopass creature for ed5

🫃

[slate hull]

what did I miss? we got Irene mod info?

[copper orchid]

It should linger, thats what it says in the mod

[proven dagger]

no eggs for you

[sinful sparrow]

imagine dying to reflext

ew

[sinful sparrow]

???

grrrr

[proven dagger]

im withholding your eggs

[sinful sparrow]

Ur so cringe

[woeful anchor]

at least we know she doesnt heal on atk

[sinful sparrow]

nope

[woeful anchor]

so L kiwi

yep

[proven dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1227099740760707125/1460928286413688895/6912d338fdceb2be7221c0ca.gif

[stray dove]

when conditions are met, she mimics Tex2's "redo" talent
she also gets redep lowered as a passive

[slate hull]

ooh, so it is something unique

[gaunt bay]

watch they give her hidden iframes during skill as well

🤫

[sinful sparrow]

Stfu kiwi

🫃

[gaunt bay]

reverse chilchuck tech

[stray dove]

Fib, is Chilchuk a twink?

[proven dagger]

i would lowchenuinely smash chilchuk

[sinful sparrow]

i hope the eggs u withhold explode

[stray dove]

I know he's a family man in the show.
But I doubt you cared for lore of your twinks, Fib.

[sinful sparrow]

and u die

grrrrr

[gaunt bay]

but mika

that means youll never get your eggs back

[sinful sparrow]

its ok i have my infinite fish eggs source

[stray dove]

you got a Broodmother in IS3?

[sinful sparrow]

he doesnt know

[stray dove]

Haruka doesn't count

[sinful sparrow]

damn he knows

🥀

[proven dagger]

the egg juice will lubricate my insides so that haruka can squirm within my vestiges

[copper orchid]

How good is soul escort without kafka

Inhave her e1

😭

[prime mountain]

Kafka needs e0 bro

you're fine

[sinful sparrow]

i hope u explode

where not fine

[copper orchid]

Ok

[sinful sparrow]

-2 dp per deploy

😢

[proven dagger]

what is soul escort squad and what does it do

[woeful anchor]

no

[copper orchid]

Cuz i heard e1 kafka is perma acc dmg

[proven dagger]

and what does kafka do in it

[prime mountain]

-12s per deployment if you used an inspirer pre fight

So infinite sleep on kafka

zzz

[proven dagger]

IT DOES?

[sinful sparrow]

ok what if your dp say no

how to infinite sleep

[woeful anchor]

chilchuck looks like hes 30

[copper orchid]

Then u print more

[woeful anchor]

or smthing

[sinful sparrow]

:mon3trsmug:

[proven dagger]

i didn't know t his squad was technology

[woeful anchor]

despite being short

[proven dagger]

thank god i hate is5 tho

[prime mountain]

Mfw one hoshi non canceled skill

[proven dagger]

they be making anything an operator nowadays

[woeful anchor]

john highroll

[proven dagger]

i remember when my ops were good ol flesh

[slate hull]

fog machine alter when

[sinful sparrow]

mom cynik is being mpreg again

[slate hull]

oh wait, that is ascalon

[gaunt bay]

Johnathan

[proven dagger]

when i transition ill be the first to achieve fpreg

[dusk creek]

[gaunt bay]

Sorry mei was faster

[proven dagger]

no way wtf

youre..fpreg

https://tenor.com/view/chiyono-o-sakura-chiyono-o-chiyono-lick-bakushin-armpit-umamusume-lick-gif-10301895227548023535

[woeful anchor]

freak station

[gaunt bay]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-licialurie-haruka-attack-smack-gif-16778467895848809785

[proven dagger]

should be me

imagine getting beaten to near-death by Haruka then she heals you back up, and the cycle starts over again

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143185313779425322/1459762686970564772/harukayap.gif

[woeful anchor]

freak station

[stray dove]

it's so weird seeing an actual client

[prime mountain]

Nah this is AI its not real it cant be

🫃

the encounters were all ass bro it was just coupons

[slate hull]

what a weird f6

[prime mountain]

It was the same fight twice too like bruh

[arctic panther]

man

[slate hull]

you can do 2 floors + bosky and then end run if you want 300 something points

ah, but I did those tests on d15, so results may vary

[prime mountain]

Smells like is5...

[stray dove]

nah that still feels potentially close to IS2

IS5 has king relics and rumble

[prime mountain]

I SAVED THE CASTER YAY

Well I mean

She saved herself really

[stray dove]

curio + vertical

nice tongbaos

[prime mountain]

Yep crazy run

[sly harness]

when I did this today I got EM from every encounter

[prime mountain]

more greed!

GO FORTH RESERVE CASTER

[arctic panther]

it worked on d10

[stray dove]

@nocturne cape btw tell me if there are bilibili/CN videos of dmg comparisons with and without Yu module

[copper orchid]

There shouldnt be yet

Mods are not out yet

In game

[unkempt flower]

My plan failed. That's what i wanted to do (Second screenshot)

[slate hull]

I think it is like 2-3 hours until the CN update goes live

hopefully I am going to have a lot of interesting stuff to look at when I wake up

[unkempt flower]

At least all those 3 leaks hits the shields, so i ain't lost any life

[stray dove]

I'm asking him for future ones

cause i don't know anybody else who'd scour bilibili

[copper orchid]

Me

[proven dagger]

im pr sure irene mod's 'deployment conditions'

are refering to standard deployment conditions

so a free deployment slot and nothing else preventing her from being deployed, like an enemy ability

[prime mountain]

Oh my god cynik stop we don't know yeeeet

[unkempt flower]

I forgot how hard enemy is attacking.

Thanks for NO MEDICS vouchers!!

[copper orchid]

That should be one of them

And then we should have another condition

[proven dagger]

mod's datamined already

we already know what it is

why would they obfuscate a condition in the mod

its literally just refering to the conditions under which any op or token can be deployed

unless she magically doesn't take deploy slot

[copper orchid]

Ur right

[stray dove]

so

outside of deployment limit

would the other potential condition be that someone else took her spot in the short time she's out?

like when she died, a tile ban happened (Playwright/Mandragora)

[copper orchid]

Dont know about that yet

[noble orbit]

Can you shop rob with this?

Floor 1 is6

[stray dove]

maybe....

although

it's gonna be tricky to defend the OTHER lane

cause if i were to lay it out

I'd need Ulp to have no blockers

so he can S3 towards the OTHER lane

a severe lack of any solutions to remove talisman from ulp

since you'd need to use Raidian S1

[sly harness]

Most likely no

[noble orbit]

I just robbed it

Almost died tho

[stray dove]

i mean yeah

that was something i thought would happen

[noble orbit]

got 6 lives left

[stray dove]

thats not almost died

[noble orbit]

this was the main problem

Although these radian summons are insanely tanky

They live forever!

[stray dove]

thats S1

[noble orbit]

Yes

[stray dove]

they're made to fucking tank

3-blockers too

[noble orbit]

insane

[stray dove]

its like spamming Noirs

that are way WAY more durable

[noble orbit]

And the skill gives shield to all of them too

crazy

[noble orbit]

One question, after playing is6 to d15, I feel like wisadel is a bit underated? Honestly think she is more valuable than exu alter or am I tripping

Wisadel actually trivialises so many wonderland stages

[copper orchid]

Exu alter can do ed2 pretty well

[stray dove]

strong but won't carry you as hard

compared to other ISs

as for.....Turmoil carry potential

Hoshitter has already claimed the spot of one of the best Turmoil carries

I do get your point that it feels like Wis carries some Turmoils easier than others

But you'd be surprised how Raidian/Hoshitter/Geexu carries too

[noble orbit]

I see

[noble orbit]

I think that the only weak thing about wisadel is her e1 is bad

So she can't be rated too highly

[sly harness]

You just pick Raidian for Turmoils

[stray dove]

her S3 cycle isn't as good either

let me tell you...

as someone who's used Wis and then Geexu

for Yi killing and Jie foot killing

yeah....

[sly harness]

And when it comes to ed2 and ed3 performance Exu is better

[stray dove]

Geexu is just the better ST nuker

i don't remember if Furrilo said this or someone else

[noble orbit]

Even ed3?

[stray dove]

but Wis' S3 multipliers

ain't anything special

it's just that her triple summons + giant splash

makes it exceptional

[sly harness]

en route I can see Wisadel being stronger than Exu but the again we have Raidian

[stray dove]

there's no such thing as needing to nuke Wang

[sly harness]

And Raidian is more than enough for 80% of the stage

[noble orbit]

makes sense

[stray dove]

right now from what we're seeing

[noble orbit]

So you rank ops based on the fact that raidian trivialises normal stages

Which makes sense ig

[sly harness]

I would say that the shield is very comfortable

[stray dove]

if you want really good atk scaling or multipliers that REALLY show some absurdities with a lot of DPS relics

Geexu and Pralter are it

and Ch3n is looking to be one as well

but we'll see

[sly harness]

Also Wis S3 will just spam balls and have bad cycle

And S2 have low DPH

[open finch]

mfw 3s levitate +140% damage technology

cant play gimmicky perma cc

must play damage

[sly harness]

She won't be able to reliably clear the dragons

[stray dove]

we talking T3 Ed5?

my dude she'd die to the reflect damage first

[noble orbit]

Another question, in later floors I find most stages raidian s2 does 0 dmg because of the high def, do I use s3?

[sly harness]

The ed3 dragons

[stray dove]

Ed3 dragons wat?

[stray dove]

you must be doing something weird

that S2 should still be decent

the only time you go S3 on raidian

is if the stage has a LOT of ranged tiles that you can chain

[sly harness]

Still depends on the stage (on f5 her matchups aren't the best). But Raidian not dealing damage is a problem of a scaling

[stray dove]

do not forget

Raidian has a talent

[sly harness]

Like in IS6 you should be able to scale high especially if you play with Raidian

[noble orbit]

like vs the ending 2 boss she does no dmg right

[stray dove]

where some of her stats goes to her summons

so with enough DPS relics

[sly harness]

Because she makes the snowballing incredibly easy

[stray dove]

her summons are gonna pour damage

My dude, you're not nuking Ed2 with Raidian

[sly harness]

She is mainly to bait the boss and hold the lanes

[stray dove]

thats not her job there

[sly harness]

S3 would be useless there

[noble orbit]

Ye I was like why she doing 0 dmg

To the boss

[sly harness]

She can malt the boss if you scale a bit

[stray dove]

ok i think the consideration is

you're using Raidian to kill bosses

don't?

[noble orbit]

Ok so I wasnt tripping

Makes sense

[stray dove]

in D0, fucking SURE

but when you're high enough, why?

[sly harness]

The boss has 1k DEF her summons around 1k ATK

[noble orbit]

I dont have hoshi alt, can I cope surtr? been drafting surtr for guard ticket because idk what guard to use

Ulpianous seems popular but a bit underwhelming most of the time

[sly harness]

So without collectibles she will do nothing. But since you can usually get like 40+ of them she should work fine

[sly harness]

Leizi

Młynar

Ente

Degen

In this order

With Degen being cope (real in gvg)

[stray dove]

oh yeah i haven't considered this

i only took Mlynar on Ed3 routes but

[noble orbit]

mlyner?

[stray dove]

does Mly's taunt affect Ed2 prio?

[sly harness]

Weaker Leizi

[stray dove]

not in ed5

[sly harness]

No

[stray dove]

[noble orbit]

so ulpian is bad

[sly harness]

Yes

Very

[noble orbit]

bet

[sly harness]

He is only relevant in IS5

[stray dove]

any operator that has a hard time removing their OWN talisman

is kinda scuffed

even with new Exp2 skill tree

[noble orbit]

Mlyner cant really remove it either tho

[stray dove]

that adds damage dots to talismans

[noble orbit]

by cant really I mean cant at all

[sly harness]

The thing is that you can't even get the S3 spam in IS6

[stray dove]

reflect dmg

is hilarious

[noble orbit]

wait

[stray dove]

Lazer can't

Mlynar can

hahahahha

[noble orbit]

This is kinda crazy

I didnt know that happens

Unc still got it

[stray dove]

yes Mlynar's "I'm getting hit, take this" damage works on Talisman dots

[noble orbit]

damn

Thats kinda goated

[stray dove]

it's the very reason Mlynar was a good egg killer in lower diff IS3

D18 IS3 hurts too much for Mly to survive that much harass tho

[noble orbit]

egg?

[stray dove]

Broodmother attacks

[noble orbit]

oh the global range guys

[stray dove]

cling spiky eggs

they're not global

just absurd range

[noble orbit]

theres like 1 stage with those guys tho

[stray dove]

MANY

TLK, Isharmla, Nest, that annoying F4 stage, WFU

a LOT

[sly harness]

5 tiles or something like this

[stray dove]

hell theyre in an F2 stage

[noble orbit]

Oh you talking about a different guy

The egg that stuns your ops?

[stray dove]

no

[noble orbit]

OH the guy that throws balls

at you

[stray dove]

finally you got it

[noble orbit]

Yeah these guys suck

But mlyner is block 0 so the balls wont hit him right

[sly harness]

Calling those spiky balls eggs was misleading

[noble orbit]

Should be spiky ball throwing slugs

[stray dove]

THEY'RE LITERALLY LAYING EGGS/HATCHLINGS!

they're throwing their children!

[noble orbit]

I mean they throw spiky balls is what I see them doing

[stray dove]

this lore is hilarious

[sly harness]

This is not about difficulty but about proper scaling. DEF is not scaled with difficulty ao it doesn't matter, if she can't overcome the DEF she will do nothing anyway.

[stray dove]

do they only scale ATK and max HP per floor?

on the generic diff mod scaling?

[sly harness]

If you can get ~100% atk with all 5 summons she will do something arund 20k "per hit"

[sly harness]

Yes only HP and ATK

[stray dove]

makes sense

or else it'd destroy physical DPS too fast

[flint pawn]

I am beginning to experience IS6 fatigue.

I think I'm too smooth-brained for this...

[stray dove]

how many runs?

[flint pawn]

I don't even know anymore

[stray dove]

if it's not even at least 4, it's not fatigue. It's just confusion

[flint pawn]

Most fail in the third or fourth floor

[stray dove]

how's your skill tree?

cause that's fine

[flint pawn]

Almost filled

[stray dove]

especially for a newer player or less trained account

how's your ops?

[flint pawn]

XD

I should update my Krooster, but let's just say that's not a problem.

[stray dove]

then your issue may be just knowledge on how to do things

[flint pawn]

Oh yeah, Krooster is over a year behind, definitely need to update.

[stray dove]

since you're not self-learning on how to get stronger

or at least haven't discovered how to get stronger

maybe it's how you beat stages/turmoils

[flint pawn]

I'm getting to floor 3 more often, but i get flattened too easy.

I drag Tragodia around, but hp and res are so stupid that even 5k elemental damage is a tickle

Throwing the cat around just pisses off the elites

[stray dove]

scaling's the issue

whats your relic count in f3

what's your choice of Tongbao coins

[flint pawn]

I figured out how to deal with most of the hit-count enemies, Flingers and KroosAlter clean them up pretty easy

[stray dove]

ok lemme stop you right there

that is already a warning sign excluding Wis

[flint pawn]

I go for the risk coins like Dream and Qingyu

[stray dove]

hit count enemies are easily solved by ops strong enough in this IS

you don't need to recruit strong hit count

you should already have it

Raidian S2 already cleans fucking well

Wis S2 too

you don't need

[flint pawn]

"Ops strong enough" sure bud,

[stray dove]

other flingers or Krooster

bud, i may be a casual compared to the sweatlords here

but i still have a full ending squad clear sweep

and D15 clear

no krooster

no other flingers outside Wis

not even Ethan use

use Raidian S2

use it well

[flint pawn]

I start with GreyyAlter cause he's cheap to recruit, and has multi-hit aoe attacks that scale well with attack buffs

[stray dove]

hell, some are using Hoshitter S2 for more hitcount

but i feel that's unnecessary

[flint pawn]

He's not great, but i don't need to spend 6 hope on first recruit

[stray dove]

ok STOPPING you here

[earnest shuttle]

raidian s2 for hit count enemies like what ?

[stray dove]

the fuck is stopping you from recruiting a 6* start?

[flint pawn]

I use the hope for a different class

[stray dove]

why?

like.....by this point I'm just gonna point you to a special squad start

just so you have Raidian immediately

AND a 6* of your choice

even IS3 by this point don't do Krooster starts

not with Geexu being available now

5* starts are only for those who know what they're doing

or just fucking around

also you guys really need to learn how to use Raidian S2 if you don't think that solves furniture count

Feng Shui or that map with blockades and sharpedges

Wis S2, Raidian S2

i win

[flint pawn]

He fits the empty spot in the puzzle, I usually move away from him as my dps, but he's his enough for the first floors.

[stray dove]

this reliance or thinking of him as a foundation

is kinda weighing you down

why do you think he's necessary

furniture ain't even the most dangerous part of IS6

[flint pawn]

He gets me to floor 2, where I get to recruit using the tags I earned in floor 1. Saving the hope let's me get stronger units on discount.

[stray dove]

Raidian gets you to floor 3

@nocturne cape can you help this guy? He needs more specifics

[flint pawn]

Once I got floor 2, the spotlight goes to the powerhouses I chose from tag reserved recruitment.

[stray dove]

not just generic advise on next steps

as an example, I rob Cannot in floor 1, with this

they're all E1s

[flint pawn]

Usually tragodia, Wis, ExuAlt or Ascalon depending on my mood, that kind of thing.

[stray dove]

remove ascalon there

tragodia....yeha sure. keep him. We're only considering ending 1

so he's still great

do you have a Hoshitter?

[sinful sparrow]

can we just say the big obvious truth that 2 good 5*s are still worse than a good 6*

[flint pawn]

Lol, lmao even

[sinful sparrow]

leak is fine

as long as you win f1 rob, every LP is a resource

and you are expected to leak doing this

[stray dove]

if you live

you win

simple as that

why do people think leaking is bad?

it's fucking IS

not 3-star normal content

[flint pawn]

But you eat shit on Boski stores??

[stray dove]

i don't care if i'm shopping later

[sinful sparrow]

you.. dont?

sat

wat

[stray dove]

I ROBBED CANNOT

Ji shop ain't too much of a prio

i'll heal later

[severe oasis]

you get so many lp in is6 that it really doesnt matter

[stray dove]

yeah a bit of retrieves

[earnest shuttle]

the bosky node have legend node that heals your lp anyway

[stray dove]

maybe firepit legend

i'm back to full

[flint pawn]

I don't want random crap, "+6% defense per supporter or defender", eat shit.

[stray dove]

jesus christ positive

you're not scaling enough

cause you ignore everything

[flint pawn]

I'm not gambling with my life every run, I must live a sad life

[stray dove]

1 LP means fuck all

if i'm not planning to leak after Cannot rob

simple as that

gambling my life my ass.

i can reset easily

F1 restart

either way, i'm not telling you to rob Cannot F1

[ionic kestrel]

[stray dove]

it's not gonna be good in expansion 1 anyways

what I'm showing you

is you can clear F2

with the same squad i showed you

an E1 Raidian, E1 Humus, E1 Mamiya

you don't need Greyyter

and yes, leakless

I'm actually still figuring out if you picking meh ops at the start is the reason you can't scale well enough

[gaunt bay]

Mika how long until wang drop

[stray dove]

or if it's the lack of map knowledge to clear (since you've clearly shown to me that you can't kill furniture with Raidian S2 for some reason)

[sinful sparrow]

30 mins

[sinful sparrow]

brother

pls

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1431084459913904148/1761189554200.gif

[sinful sparrow]

stfu and save urself the trouble

mf doesnt wanna hear

:ICANT:

i just give up

stubborn mfs aint worth my time

[stray dove]

noted

[sly harness]

I will need to record getting 25 collectibles by the end of f2 with Raidian and then send this to everyone who explodes on later floors because the are playing almost relicless (ofc it is not their choice)

[stray dove]

with rob or robless?

[sly harness]

robless I can probably get ~20

[stray dove]

do it. Even I'm interested

because i know i'm not keeping tabs on the most optimal way to get stronger

i can imagine this includes F2 path fight

and only 1 candled to carry F2 Turmoils

[pastel saffron]

Some people don't want help

they just want to rant

and relate with other people

so they feel less bad about their own inability to do smth

[stray dove]

they come to the wrong place to do that

heh

could've gone to #arknights

sup, positive.

i'm still willing to help

if you need it

[flint pawn]

I've got wis, lapp-alter and a lucky Temp-Logis tag on the floor-2 reserve recruitments.

[stray dove]

hmmmm

you could've just not made do with Lapptop. But i think Wis and Logos is fine

one question

fuck no need to answer

but you haven't won in IS6 yet, right?

i was thinking if you could use Raidian

but without progress, it won't help much

[flint pawn]

I recruited her first, I had 2 Caster tags and decided to brute-force her E2.

[stray dove]

Do you have Geexu? Hoshitter?

[flint pawn]

But I got Logos on the second tag, so I went with it.

[flint pawn]

Yes; not built

I didn't get specialist or defender tags, just sniper/caster. Even the shop was a caster tag.

[stray dove]

that doesn't matter

not when starting voucher picks

[flint pawn]

I'm on ascension 5

[stray dove]

is VERY flexible

my dude....

that means Raidian is E2 at least

start using her

use Special Squad

it's time you get your easy mode

[proven dagger]

@cold fjord @halcyon flame wait i can save candles in IS6 if i choose not to enter

[stray dove]

yes

pick option 1

then option 2

[proven dagger]

ive been playing d15 for months and i didn't realize this

LMAO

[stray dove]

no fucking wonder some of you guys have a hard time finding ed2 relic

[sinful sparrow]

why r u pregnant

and not know this

:gigampreg: