is-station

[stray dove]

a lot

IS mods have always been more misses than hits iirc

or at least 50:50

[slow turtle]

for every angelina and archetto theres like

uh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[stray dove]

stop

stop right there

don't even include cheeto

[slow turtle]

why lol

[stray dove]

the biggest impact i've seen her is for a difficult Izumik starve strat

with Degen S2

[slow turtle]

i was gonna say the fact i cant even remember any bad ones just goes to show how bad they are to the point no one talks about

[stray dove]

Hool was pretty recent

i still don't know if the sweatlords use Gnosis'

[slow turtle]

yeah well hool is unsalvageable anyway

even angelina cant save her

[stray dove]

swireter is pretty good but i don't know how she is in non-IS6

Mizuki is solid as long as you don't accidentally give him block

[slow turtle]

not as good in 3 and 4 from what ive heard since ingots are hard to get in those versions

[stray dove]

lets forget about Dusk

Phantom i've seen niche strats

Kal is just acceptable

any other IS modules i've missed?

oh yeah

Ros is decent

Ange is good but you won't prio her

[sly harness]

Archetto is also mediocre. It enables some off-meta but still valuable comps but on its own it's not that amazing

Like Archetto is good in IS5 mainly because of Mon3tr and in IS6 mainly because of Saki (and here it will only be good in dlc1 so in IS6 at it its easiest state)

[halcyon flame]

chetto is fine dlc2

[sly harness]

The IS2 ed4 solution is nice but you can also just use Tragodia

[halcyon flame]

if anything shes better

because sniper vouchers arent contested

and saki/m3 are extremely good dlc2

[sinful sparrow]

wis is pretty bad into ed5 if thats what you care

[halcyon flame]

she has a hand in 5 its not just m3 either

but is5 is sloppy cock

[sinful sparrow]

cuz of the blast + reflect, she's very likely to die from getting one-shot from the reflect

[sly harness]

Angelina has most likely the strongest IS module. She is more or less relevant in every IS and has great relicless performance

[stray dove]

the improvements she got from that module is a huge power spike

but that didn't mean she will be taken in most clears or ISs

she will ALWAYS shine in IS3 with Weedy

[sly harness]

She is also the best arts DPS for IS4

[stray dove]

considering IS4 also had a lot of levitation perks

[sly harness]

And great in IS6 (probably not that good in dlc2)

[slow turtle]

even better than logos?

[stray dove]

sounds good

[remote badger]

yep since casters in is3 is nonexistent

and 4 too

[sly harness]

From what I heard about the damage calculations, yes

[slow turtle]

crazy

[remote badger]

when u think of which caster is good for IS just think about nothing

[halcyon flame]

they peform the same role

so it doesnt actually matter

if anyting logos is a bit better econ wise nowadays

because you really want trag

[sly harness]

IS5 is comp oriented, Def/sup is a playable comp that uses her as a core. In Lamp less you will in most cases go for Tragodia but maybe you can pivot her for hand

[slow turtle]

do hands exist in is6 at all

i have not seen a single one

[halcyon flame]

logos remains fairly relevant for all ISs

[stray dove]

Wouldn't Pralter's DPS mult perform better in IS3?

[sly harness]

Post dlc2 some of them are added

[halcyon flame]

yes even 3 (according to mr 50 pizza man)

[remote badger]

oh nvm

[stray dove]

than other arts options?

[halcyon flame]

yes pram is much better

in is3

then logos

[slow turtle]

but none for dlc1 or current content?

[remote badger]

yep

[halcyon flame]

pram as a caster is probably the strongest pick in most themes right now

[stray dove]

considering Cube's description of Pralter

she's literally the Geexu of arts (amazing relic scaling)

[slow turtle]

is this because of gnosis synergy or is she just that good by herseld already

[halcyon flame]

shes just that good

all 3 of her skills are good

[stray dove]

no she's just Geexu arts edition

[halcyon flame]

her talent stalls

excellent relic scaling because hg buffs caster relics as much as they can

good into endings

good en route

decent in bosky

usable at e1

the list goes on

[remote badger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1434332916430672033/Pramanix_is_Here.gif

[slate hull]

I have seen that she can freeze the blue box, so she doubles as a defender

on top of everything

[slow turtle]

??

[sinful sparrow]

bro

noone gives a shit about blue box freeze

[sly harness]

Wasn't this SA?

[sinful sparrow]

enemies is gonna one shot it eitherway

nah its pram

[stray dove]

SAlter is a bonus

Pralter is the menace

[languid vault]

What should I prioritize now

[sly harness]

IS ATK scaling

[stray dove]

thats why i can't wait for SAlter banner

it's gonna feel just as good as Hoshitter's

[halcyon flame]

oh yea i got around to using SAShalter the other day

[stray dove]

both are good 6*

[halcyon flame]

very funny unit

[remote badger]

i....uhhhhh

[stray dove]

and i thought i had shitty nicknames

SAShalter....

[halcyon flame]

bro im playing and typign

[stray dove]

sounds russian

[halcyon flame]

fack u

[remote badger]

havent decided whether to get sashalt or not

[languid vault]

[remote badger]

keep maxing the trees

[stray dove]

if you're pulling for Pralter, it will only matter if you got Pralter and not SAlter first

[faint rampart]

just get them all

[languid vault]

uh huh, when u hear the term prioritize yall, it means which ones to get first to best utilize on the currencies u have or going to get in order for maximum efficiency until u maximize the trees for fully minmax efficiency

what if I told someone to only get the atk ones first

instead of unlocking limits and squads

[halcyon flame]

i went to go mastery s2 for irene

[languid vault]

[halcyon flame]

and realized i cant irene irene masteries

logosuusy

time

[languid vault]

[stray dove]

I've raised Irene to Mod3 E2 cap purely for SSS's infancy

i wish IS module is good

[halcyon flame]

i raised irene beacuse i like her design

[stray dove]

because it'll only take a few investments to make her worth it

[halcyon flame]

she was one of my eariler 6 stars

[grizzled nexus]

Wonder if it's gonna be SP booster for Irene IS Module

[stray dove]

i doubt

i'd rather they add something more intersting

something that doesn't feel like it's just to remove her weakness

[stray dove]

hmmm

this might not be related to IS module

but doesn't Irene's S3 levitate her targets?

and she does more damage to aerial/levitated?

[slow turtle]

She has 50% def ignore to levitate and she does levitate too

[cyan pasture]

her s1 levitates one target, her s2 levitates in a lird guard range, s3nis the levitate hit alot skill

[brave moss]

wait, if you take too long in is6 ed2 you lose?

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[remote badger]

the feet will just land into ur blue box

[nocturne cape]

You have around 3-4 more cycles after 54/55

[remote badger]

the top right corner

[faint rampart]

wha really

didn't think em would be this pain

[brave moss]

i have only 1 stomp after 54/55, then i lose

[faint rampart]

omg rose is back to lurking

[remote badger]

might means u stalled sth beforehand

[nocturne cape]

Unless you took forever on the last wave, no

You have 3-4 more cycles

[halcyon flame]

cube

cube

cube

[brave moss]

i dont stall on left lane, and on right lane i kill everything asap

[halcyon flame]

cheeto empire

[nocturne cape]

Nope

Im calling it

Irene is mod is fraud

[halcyon flame]

ur a hater

[arctic panther]

i’ve always been lurking

[halcyon flame]

i thought u were a cheeto enjoyer

fraud

i HATE you

[nocturne cape]

Chen3 is here so not anymore

[halcyon flame]

nope chen3 will have off rec too

🤫

[nocturne cape]

Were drafting chen3

[remote badger]

chen(s)

[halcyon flame]

chen III

the year is 2030

we now refer to alters with roman numerals

[brave moss]

man, i was so close to get raidian s2 m3, waht a bummer. wasted 1h20 minutes

[remote badger]

lol

[halcyon flame]

Chen V

[nocturne cape]

Anyway

Wang damage looks pretty decent

[slate hull]

ch3n is going to pop off so hard on whack a mus

[nocturne cape]

Im excited

[halcyon flame]

i was super giddy when i realized chen s2 had a mechanic similar to one i theorized back in december

[halcyon flame]

me when a trap master can deploy his traps on ranged and undeployabltiles, and under enemies

excellent

[remote badger]

how is it even a trapmaster

[slate hull]

I am absolutely saving for the new banner, both operators seem really good

[nocturne cape]

A bit sad about the fact that he doesnt have much utility

But yeah

[halcyon flame]

how is wisadele a flinger

[nocturne cape]

Ill take good flexible global damage

We’ll have to see his numbers before theorizing whether he is worth drafting around

The potential is there

[remote badger]

or there comes the midass banners

[halcyon flame]

nope the numbers are terrible

[nocturne cape]

Wdym terrible

[halcyon flame]

its a reference

to the kiwi doc

[faint rampart]

more spec voucher competition

[nocturne cape]

Logos cant even kill half of them

[halcyon flame]

not actually terrrible

[nocturne cape]

Pram s3 barely does

[stray dove]

bosses that don't walk to blue box

has a timer before they "leak/explode"

it's common that happens

or else if you can't kill the boss, you're softlocked

it's also the lose condition

because it's just weird to have a boss that doesn't leak

[steel relic]

Wang playable?

[slow turtle]

Yes

[steel relic]

Dang

[brave moss]

make sense. I just surprised that the usual strat of waiting 54/55 doesnt work this time

[sinful sparrow]

each mine explode is worth 1.5 wisadel s3 blast with 50 res ignore

thoughts?

[stray dove]

we need experimentation

the previews look good

[nocturne cape]

Is that true?

[stray dove]

but we need actual gameplay

[nocturne cape]

It cant be

One mine is 35k arts?

[sinful sparrow]

its not but im fantasizing

it will be funny as shit

[slow turtle]

M*n powercreepint wisadwl

Arknights community in shambles

[brave moss]

i will take anything that can help me to have an easier time upgrade raidian

[woeful anchor]

???

1 mine is 35k?

what

[slow turtle]

Hes lying

We dont even have actual numbers

[woeful anchor]

u do

u can watch the pv

[slow turtle]

Fibnobitches illiteracy strikes again

[nocturne cape]

No cuz mika lied

[woeful anchor]

and count pixels

u can watch pv and count pixels to estimate dmg

u arent unempl*yed enough to do that

[slow turtle]

Yeah unfortunately i do have an actual j*b

[woeful anchor]

it ok

ugly op powercrept another ugly op

nothing changed ‼️

[slow turtle]

[nocturne cape]

Apparently its 140k total damage with 36 arts pen

[stray dove]

did previews have actual stage play?

if so

that is a good comparison

TO START

[woeful anchor]

wat cycle

[tired wyvern]

Guys, if I do every emergency event from floor 3 and till floor 5 in IS5 on d10, will that give me kre battle pass EXP?

[sinful sparrow]

misinfo 1/1

[woeful anchor]

emergency give 20 pts

[sinful sparrow]

?

where tf is this info

[woeful anchor]

then pts get converted into exp by like x1.1 i think

so 22 exp

if ur playing d10 its x1.5 pts multiplier

so 33 exp

[nocturne cape]

icl the cycle looks ass

But we have to see

[woeful anchor]

ez skip?

cant believe they released 2 male limiteds

[stray dove]

i wouldn't hold my breath too much

[woeful anchor]

but neither of them are cute

why even play

zzzzzzzz

[stray dove]

he is a trapmaster gameplay

unlike Ela

[faint rampart]

so you're going to start endfield yay

[stray dove]

Fib really loves his twinks

[woeful anchor]

endfield has lifeng

so

uh

maybe

🚬

[faint rampart]

omg fellow lifeng enjoyer

[tired wyvern]

Oh thx

[faint rampart]

[woeful anchor]

:ya:

[sinful sparrow]

what if logos cycle but better everything

[slow turtle]

Is chongyue cute to you

[brave moss]

how is chen3 looking btw?

[nocturne cape]

It is at least logos cycle

Maybe longer

Look at the demo again bro

The sp bar barely moved

[woeful anchor]

no

[stray dove]

mart and fib

you easily show what you want

in your pfp

[slow turtle]

Ok i finally unbricked my base

[woeful anchor]

low bar

[slow turtle]

60k lmd looks a lot more normal

Considering im running karlan shamare and proviso

[stray dove]

just keep it up

[nocturne cape]

Cant believe Wang is bricked by ED3 debuff

[stray dove]

base is only as good as a consistent rotation

[nocturne cape]

Bro counters himself

[stray dove]

he counters himself

who da thunk

that is hilarious

Ed3 boss

with Wang

looks hilarious

he drops mine, Wang boss drops Weiqi piece

they're playing 1v1

[slow turtle]

Is rose salt an attack debuffer

[stray dove]

wat?

she's more like a damage divider

[slow turtle]

Wdym what

[woeful anchor]

rose salt is deaths dance from league

[slow turtle]

Wait could i use skalter s1 for this

[stray dove]

Skalter is a shittier healer

[steel relic]

She would probably die

[woeful anchor]

wat

skalter dies

[slow turtle]

[woeful anchor]

rose salt delays dmg

[slow turtle]

Actually useless as fuck op

[woeful anchor]

so instead of taking 7k dmg now

[stray dove]

i know what you're thinking

[woeful anchor]

u take 3.5k now and 3.5k later

[stray dove]

Skalter S1

but Skalter's healing is low

REAL low

we stopped using Bard a long time ago

[woeful anchor]

rose salt good for ed2

[slow turtle]

I dont have sanity for spec chips

[nocturne cape]

Maybe wang wont save ed5

[slow turtle]

Augh

[nocturne cape]

I am officially a hater

[woeful anchor]

damn wang sucks

good ending

:amiyay:

[stray dove]

i mean

isn't it canon

[nocturne cape]

How do you make 50s cycle work

[stray dove]

that Ed5, Wang lost

[woeful anchor]

i cope for ji next year

😇

[stray dove]

wait wait wait

[woeful anchor]

ji will be op trust

[stray dove]

when they do previews

comparing to stages

have they always used M3s?

[woeful anchor]

yes

[slow turtle]

Isnt she fucking dead

[steel relic]

That’s Jie

[woeful anchor]

no thats jie

[nocturne cape]

???

[woeful anchor]

ji is the bosky shop owner

the one that drains ur lp

[slow turtle]

Oh

[stray dove]

Jie is diff from Ji

Yi is diff from Ya and Yu

[slow turtle]

Its one letter this shit sucks

[woeful anchor]

who is ya i only know 'ya'

🗣️

[slow turtle]

Ya is a different feranmut entirely

[steel relic]

Classic Arknights literacy check

[stray dove]

i know

but good luck remembering the differences

i applaud you from remembering Ya at least

[woeful anchor]

ya is a boss

why wouldnt u remember ya

[stray dove]

because they didn't leave too much of an impact

[steel relic]

A boss from a CNY event

[stray dove]

i mean sure a rainbow trail of unending cloned enemies is hilarious

[steel relic]

Literally still on topic

[stray dove]

but that didn't last too much

[slow turtle]

The only thing i remember is him being easy as fuck

[stray dove]

hell, Shanhaizong stealth melee are more dangerous

[slow turtle]

Exactly

The event gimmick was kinda cool tbh

[stray dove]

you mean enemies invading ranged tiles?

yeah it was a nice gimmick

[slow turtle]

Also do you guys use lin ever

I like

[stray dove]

niche

[slow turtle]

Half assed her module before i got logos

[stray dove]

but the moment she becomes relevant

she carries hard

[slow turtle]

And im debating if i even mod3

[woeful anchor]

shes used in pool of procreation 3 ops

[stray dove]

you ain't seeing her used often

[woeful anchor]

watch the clear so i get +1 view ‼️

[slow turtle]

I hate is3 so no

[woeful anchor]

damn

cant even farm views here

this place sucks

[slow turtle]

Go self advertise somewhere else loser

[woeful anchor]

dont need

the chinese consume my content

[slow turtle]

Mods

[woeful anchor]

🚬

[stray dove]

lame

[slow turtle]

Get me past d9 and maybe i will care

Until then fuh naw

[woeful anchor]

ur bad at the game

i bet u dont have weedy raised

[slow turtle]

I dont have weedy at all

[brave moss]

i hate IS6

[woeful anchor]

damn bricked account

how do u literally have no one

but p4 ines

[slow turtle]

Its called off rating her twice

On what i dont even remember

[faint rampart]

some guy in help said that you need maxpot ines😢

[slow turtle]

Yeah it was fib

[woeful anchor]

me when i lose cos i dont have ines pots

and i spent like a total of 250 for ines

i spent 30 bucks for ines cos i couldnt get her

😇

[slow turtle]

Skill issue

[languid vault]

should I use exu2 s2 or s3

[carmine token]

s2

[slow turtle]

S2 is her dps skill

[languid vault]

yeah ik just thought s3 might be useful to keep theboss in top while reviving hoshi2

[fickle jungle]

Almost out of name to change 😢
Only a few archetypes left that dont have module

[faint rampart]

skyranger seems more safe idk

[inland elbow]

Looks doable

[fickle jungle]

Skyranger doesnt even have 6* yet 😂

[pastel saffron]

I exploded, skadi wasnt taking any dmg at all and when I finally dps her down, the seaborn turned out to be super tanky too

taking so long to die he kept killing everything 😭😭

I have never felt that weak in any IS like that before

this why I love ts

seaborn true menace

[pastel saffron]

do u have any stage tips or smth

there is no writeup for isharmla sadly

I feel like she is also pretty strong but everyone just focus on izumik

[faint rampart]

thats why

[woeful anchor]

the 4 op is permastall with trag ela

u lure skalter to right side

[inland elbow]

Yeah I'd watch the relicless clear

[woeful anchor]

the seaborn form isnt infinite range

[inland elbow]

Which isn't that far off from how I'd do it

[pastel saffron]

Bait do u have it on yt

[inland elbow]

Lol I didn't do that one

[fickle jungle]

The condition for my name is that the branch has to have at least 1 6* and the branch doesnt have module

[woeful anchor]

we dont have 3 ops yet

were not gonna copy clears and post on yt

unlike a certain KR content creator

🤫

[pastel saffron]

I draft trag ela everytime anyway, super good enroute too

[slow turtle]

Was hoshiguma the first 6* arts defender

[pastel saffron]

oh u have not done it urself

[slow turtle]

Or am i forgetting someone

[woeful anchor]

wym

[pastel saffron]

prolly shalem

[woeful anchor]

4 ops already exist

[slow turtle]

Shalem is not a 6*

[woeful anchor]

why would u post the same clear...

that someone else alr did

[faint rampart]

oh pretty restrictive, mb

[pastel saffron]

No I mean did u not try it for yourself

😭

[slow turtle]

also asbestos existed way before shalem

[woeful anchor]

trying 3 ops

[slow turtle]

Anyway

[woeful anchor]

havent succeeded

[pastel saffron]

oh 6(

[woeful anchor]

why would u try 4 ops

when someone alr did it 💀

u can just copy smh

[slow turtle]

Arknights literacy check

[pastel saffron]

I am just mentally tired after seeing this new anni strim

[slow turtle]

Yeah no hoshiguma is the only 6* one

[pastel saffron]

its on bili?

[slow turtle]

Rest are welfare/asbestos

[woeful anchor]

ya

[pastel saffron]

Just send I'll download ig

[woeful knot]

isnt current isharmla 5

[woeful anchor]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1C3uazqEdc/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[woeful knot]

go back to the mines fib

i cant be the only one suffering

[woeful anchor]

trag ela maween kal

ima be ril i dont have motiviation to play now

i turbo played cc

and didnt get any clear

so im just super demotivated

🥀

[woeful knot]

🥀

[faint rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-washed-my-goat-washed-lightning-mcqueen-mcqueen-gif-13084113942314445304

[woeful anchor]

mayb i just play endfield

[fickle jungle]

😢

[pastel saffron]

oh wow this is easy as fuck, I just add ines s3 or smth and foolproof

Yato or smth to help kill enemies as well

damn if I had watxhed this

I could have won wtf

I tried to dps her and got fucked

[pastel saffron]

Thankyou Fib, I feel like I always forget to say that even when you help me so much

[woeful anchor]

say thank u to the chinese goobers

that create the strats

:joyplush:

[stray dove]

Yep. Trag Ela Kal. Those were the 3 cores of my IS3 D18 Ed3 clear

[steel crest]

[slow turtle]

i have returned yes

[crimson raptor]

I lowkey don’t understand is6

[steel relic]

Kill boss, win

[crimson raptor]

It’s not that simple..

I don’t even understand 1% of it

[steel relic]

What don’t you understand

[lucid arch]

how tf to get kings set

i forgot

[steel relic]

Be 1 hp

[lucid arch]

i did 3 runs ALL 1 hp

nothing

[steel relic]

Did you draft too much nonsense

Hands and books take priority

[crimson raptor]

I don’t understand how to actually do it

Like in general

[sick agate]

Have you perhaps read the guides in the pins

[steel relic]

It’s difficult to provide anything based off such a nondescript problem

[copper orchid]

Did bro get talons or what

Or did bro play the wrong IS

[slate hull]

the goal with every IS is to get as many collectibles, vouchers and resources as possible, so you have to do whatever gets you that while also doing whatever gets you to the ending you want

in is6 that is usually rob f1 shop and then go crazy on all the bosky nodes

[copper orchid]

Cant wait to play dlc1 to play totally crazy strat

[gritty mason]

which usually better to take in is5 lamp or doodle? i never know which to take

[fickle jungle]

Go for lamp
Doodle is obsolete

[gritty mason]

thank you!

[arctic panther]

its mirror dungeon but you have access to a 6th floor that navigates differently and anytime you switch floors you toss coins that give certain effects

[crimson raptor]

Oh alr

Now I need to do it to level that operator you get on the first tier
-# I’ve forgotten her name aughhh

[arctic panther]

raidian was made for and carries you through (almost) everything in is6

[arctic panther]

and once you clear a run for the first time, you get access to a squad upgrade that lets you start with her maxed out but without any proficiency upgrades you havent unlocked

[sly harness]

IS6 pre dlc2 (revenant only pre dlc2) investment done

[nocturne cape]

[fickle jungle]

[nocturne cape]

are we sure

[slate hull]

she is not limited, but who knows when she will rerun

[fickle jungle]

kinda glad that she spooks me 3 times

[slate hull]

I am going to have a max pot Lee with the way my spooks have been going, man shows up on every limited banner

[crimson raptor]

Oh

[nocturne hare]

Is this enough? Or should i get more ingots??

[nocturne cape]

more

[gaunt bay]

Cube thoughts on wang

[slate hull]

don't you have to wait until next week before the event starts

[nocturne cape]

feels draftable to me

157k total damage + maximum 36 arts pen

cycle is around 50s

the fact that you can get the Yu hour pretty consistently will help his cycle a lot

maybe

just maybe

[gaunt bay]

[nocturne cape]

he can be the tail killer

over yato

just a thought tho

[slate hull]

I am very curious about ch3n because every part of her kit seems insane

is it wild to say that she seems stronger than wang

[carmine token]

nah

[gaunt bay]

Idk man

Neither seem like crazy

[carmine token]

her s2 seems cool ig

even thought its her og s3++

[gaunt bay]

The total skill damage seems like whatever on chen

[carmine token]

s3 could be intresting

wang just powercreep dorothy like saga powercreept seige

[slate hull]

She has a talent that gives her hp regen and dodge if nothing hits her for a few seconds, the other talent makes her switch between arts/phys depending on what deals more dmg. s1 seems to have silence, s2 scales with how many enemies she can kill + it redeploys her and s3 deals damage that scales with the max hp of the enemy

I don't know how this will work in game, but on paper it sounds like she does everything

[carmine token]

s2 will be the best trash killer

[gaunt bay]

No bro it’s ST and slow

[nocturne cape]

Adaptive damage feels pretty good

Not too sure about IS6 usage tho

[carmine token]

chap9 creature which im getting from her ass

[nocturne cape]

Wang definitely feels draftable in IS6

Chen3 well have to see

Guard is hella competitive

[lost anchor]

Below leizi and sakiko?

Aint spec also very competitive

[nocturne cape]

Uhhh mlynar is back too

And theres Irene IS mod that we dont know

Spec isnt really competitive anymore

Its Yato Exu

[slate hull]

oh, it would be cool if spin to win is coming back

[lost anchor]

Oh damn what happened to mizuki

Ass in ed5?

[nocturne cape]

They bugfixed the vagary tile thingy

And he really isnt doing a lot in the endings

[lost anchor]

Oh

[nocturne cape]

Swire found dead due to ed5’s sharp dp requirement

Ascalon is just mid

Wang can potentially beat Yato if his numbers are good enough

[lost anchor]

[nocturne cape]

As for chen3 we really need to know her damage composition

Like how reliant it is on the dragon

[carmine token]

how much dmg does it do

[slate hull]

Wang seems to have a lot of utility thanks to his range + ignoring the whole can't deploy on enemies part of trapmaster

[carmine token]

or undeployable tiles

[nocturne cape]

Thats not really a utility

Thats just flat damage

Unless youre using S1

Then why Wang

[slate hull]

bad phrasing, I meant versatility

[slate hull]

it can one cycle the boss from the Siege alter event, that is about everything that was shown on stream so far

but again, it seems to scale based on enemy max hp, so who knows

[carmine token]

yea i saw

but the boss is ass, y0 design

[stray dove]

btw just woke up
what did you guys do to check validity of Wang or Ch3n?

a stage showcase?

[slate hull]

they don't release until the 10th, so I am not sure where people are getting the numbers from

[carmine token]

showcase on stream

ig

yk there some ppl that inspected every lil thing to get somenumbers

[slate hull]

the stream had Wang vs a circle of burdenbeasts and Ch3n vs the ex version of the boss from Siege alter event, that is the 2 main bits of info we have

[stray dove]

this was the same case in any stream that had stage showcases with new ops

people easily just compared numbers

since the stage's enemy stats will never change

and the point of a stage showcase is to highlight the new ops' strengths

don't forget that we have websites that have the stats for every enemy in every stage too

[prime mountain]

CN people will see numbers and immediately make spreadsheets out of it

wcyd

[slate hull]

I guess the sense of urgency hits different when you don't have 6 months of buffer

[carmine token]

yea,u have just sev days to find out

[stray dove]

it's more like they can't wait for actual labwork and this is just part of the hype-up/down

[rich thorn]

because he is a trapmaster, so no hand mixing in is5

(oh, and prob he works with ammo relics)

[prime mountain]

But then you're playing is5

bad tought

[carmine token]

seems usable in adv content

[prime mountain]

cant wait for wang solo vs wang in is6

[carmine token]

wang schizo maxxing

[prime mountain]

I hope the balls have the exact same visual just so you have no idea which is which

[slate hull]

if Jie ever becomes playable you can have Wang fight Jie in order to save Jie

[carmine token]

[rich thorn]

is6 max diff ed5 - chongue/wang/jie vs chongue/wang/jie

[carmine token]

jie is dead

[iron orchid]

is raidian m3 retroactive

like if i complete its req in advance will it unlock once i unlock m2

[rich thorn]

yes

[slate hull]

I got s3m2 and s3m3 at the same time by beating ed3 once on the higher difficulty

[iron orchid]

nice ty

[prime mountain]

Why did I grab this shitty god damn relic

[stray dove]

charcoal?

[prime mountain]

Blowgun...

[stray dove]

oh the one that procs when enemies get in a low enough HP?

[prime mountain]

When your allies do yeah

[stray dove]

i never had such a shitty luck that they feared too far

it saved me some times

[prime mountain]

They straight up just

ignored hoshi

and kept going

[stray dove]

need to preserve Hoshi's skill?

for one of the trios?

[prime mountain]

I had surfer and may at the ready didnt leak

and yes needed hoshi skill for trio

HE'S DOING IT AGAIN

Actual worst relic in the game

[rich thorn]

in the is6 actually

because is3 and suis wrath exists

[prime mountain]

Nah this shit is worse

[rich thorn]

in 1st expantion, ed2 will be easier to get yeah?

[prime mountain]

Yeah first expansion has a lot of qol

[rich thorn]

because holy hell, its easier to go for wan instead of leg

[prime mountain]

Bruh choice

[rich thorn]

reserve and reroll choice

[prime mountain]

Do you not see

the recruit and light

This is the pathfind, its good choice too

[rich thorn]

at least units are not bad

could be worse

[prime mountain]

Not bad is an understatement bro they're like the best choice I could pick here

Consider wis exu ban

[nocturne cape]

mizuki

[prime mountain]

I didnt know who to pick and went with naran because cute

!

[nocturne cape]

🫡

[prime mountain]

Thinking back on it I had -35% rdp time on spec

mizuki was prob the play...

[spare ermine]

Holy shit Yu skin

[prime mountain]

Another case

its out of range now

like what the hell

How can this be so bad

[slate hull]

this stage had to be designed specifically for raidian s2

[prime mountain]

This entire gamemode was...

[nocturne cape]

incorrect

biding time is clearly designed for raidian s3

thoughts?

[prime mountain]

true...

And shop rob is s1 oriented

[rich thorn]

shop rob on f5 or f1?

[nocturne cape]

there's no way shop rob is designed for raidian s1

i dont believe it

like sure it clears it well

[prime mountain]

3 lane map on f1 with hard hitting enemies man surely

[rich thorn]

[nocturne cape]

it doenst feel intentional imo

but yeah there's no point arguing over this

[prime mountain]

I may be stupid

not dalao status

[rich thorn]

fuck this shit

[prime mountain]

DUDE

THIS FUCKING RELIC

RAAAAAAAAAAAGH

Clearly the play now is to safely greed all the statuegeists!

[rich thorn]

[prime mountain]

Roadblock can be targeted, huh

Is this tech

[stray dove]

charcoal feels more consistent in fucking with you

but yeah the OTHER fear relic

gets that mention as well

since it fucks up blocking

[prime mountain]

block enemy
enemy gets feared
no longer blocked

10/10 design

[stray dove]

well

unless you got that out of a Desire node

I never pick fear relics

[prime mountain]

I was an idiot and just insta bought everything in shop

😭

[stray dove]

as for roadblock

it is a summon

and summons can be targeted

[slate hull]

pay to lose

[stray dove]

oh wait

[prime mountain]

Kind of!

[stray dove]

hmmm

[prime mountain]

We talked about this!

[stray dove]

yeah

[prime mountain]

It was next to statuegeist so maybe that?

[stray dove]

ops should've gotten prio and summons are only the extra of many targets

[iron orchid]

wait if i get unlucky at the middle option at the butterfly node will i get a chance to get it again

[prime mountain]

no

[iron orchid]

nice reroll

[stray dove]

thats why you don't touch Legends outside the inner square

until you have 30 ingots

just to not waste a run

[prime mountain]

Simply always be rich

toughts

[stray dove]

hell i don't touch those legends until F4

[prime mountain]

Me omw to get rid of the stupid blowgun

[stray dove]

cause Jie foot before F3 boss is rough

[slate hull]

the thing is, it can be in the inner square

[prime mountain]

Rarely 2nd node, ive seen it as 3rd pretty often

[slate hull]

yeah, it does seem to be in the 5x5 most of the time, but there is no way to know for sure

until dlc1

[chrome tangle]

Is it

[prime mountain]

Insane roadblock tech

[chrome tangle]

I think its alright

[prime mountain]

Raidian user spotted

[chrome tangle]

I use Yato

Tyvm

And Exu!

[prime mountain]

Exu zzzz I sleep

[chrome tangle]

U have Leizi Zzz

I sleep

And Trag

Even more sleeper

[prime mountain]

Nah trag is fine cause he's dogshit on every boss that matters

(ed2)

I mean its literally just ed2

[chrome tangle]

Then dont use him en route either

[prime mountain]

but its fine

[chrome tangle]

Shrimply

[prime mountain]

Useful relic!

[stray dove]

depending on the run's DPS, that map is either so easy.....or slits your throat

[prime mountain]

Huh

I mean fuck it I'm blowing up to ed2 cause 0 survivability anyway

Truly the candleknight

!

[echo peak]

I was on floor five, the game crashed and there goes my bid sad lock run

[prime mountain]

Forced blademace

[stray dove]

Desire can often be such an asshole

you know what's worse, Furrilo?

forced Blowgun and/or Charcoal

you traded it out

now it's back in the pool

[prime mountain]

That would have been so funny

[stray dove]

i didn't even have to imagine it

it happened to me

I saw charcoal dropped

skipped it

[prime mountain]

[stray dove]

then i got it in a Desire

[slate hull]

I got charcoal from a desire on f5, I'd be pissed if I wasn't doing ed1

[stray dove]

i just pray the feared target walks within the tile

and not a direct line out

[prime mountain]

This is so cooked isnt it...

[slate hull]

I don't know if I got lucky, but charcoal made Yi walk back into the red box any time he touched anybody

[stray dove]

a Raidianless Ed2 fight

damn

[prime mountain]

I always play no raidian no wis no exu 👍

Certified dalao

This is actually fine damn

how broken is -15

[stray dove]

wdym by -15?

[prime mountain]

Fuck, not quite half

[stray dove]

I'm Lazerless and Enteless

[prime mountain]

Gonna need to one cycle one

[stray dove]

I can't relate to leaking less than 17

[gaunt bay]

I believe in u

[prime mountain]

No I fucked up big

Entel s2 somehow didnt even do damage to boss?

Missed the next dps phase entirely

Like I got one dps rotation left

its cooked

SO CLOSE

RAAAAAAAAAAGH

Maybe I'm not dalao after all 🥀

[gaunt bay]

Don’t say that my goat

[prime mountain]

Can I cope and say its because this is bugged

toughts

[gaunt bay]

U can win

Oh you lost

L

[prime mountain]

Yeah I lost

Actually 5s more I would win

I really just fucked up the 50% hp timing, I was too conservative on dps I tought entel would kill

But her skill just like didnt even register

wacky range

[gaunt bay]

Damn

Furrilo predictions on Irene alpha

[woeful anchor]

yes

always blame everything else

[prime mountain]

Wait what I'm not up to news

[slate hull]

she is getting a new mod that we know nothing about yet

[prime mountain]

Levitate related and its just

angelina module but worse

!

[halcyon flame]

Enemies exiting levitate will be inflicted with 80% fragile

😇

[slate hull]

it is hard to predict something specific

[prime mountain]

Wont stack with gnosis, L module

[halcyon flame]

Gnosis mid

L bozo

[slate hull]

I am half-expecting it to be an offensive recovery mod like the one cheeto has

[prime mountain]

Im hoping its something entirely unique

but we have no way to know

[woeful anchor]

damn hool op

jk 1.8hool dmg is still garbo

[prime mountain]

Its really funny how instead of making levitate good they just went fuck it, IS mods for everyone

Its still ass outside of it

[stray dove]

lets see if they go something haven't thought of

HG sometimes do make IS modules change the dynamics of an operator's worth

at least the more recent ones

[woeful anchor]

lev is alr good tho

its just that theres 0 ops with good lev application outside ange

lev is just reskinned stun

[stray dove]

yeah and i don't think anyone uses Marksmen anymore for aerial prio mattering

for that facet of levitate to be useful

[prime mountain]

Just combine it with Qaani for aerial fragility bro trust

[stray dove]

i do wish the IS module has nothing to do with levitate or off-rec/SP

[prime mountain]

Surely its just gonna be

When Irene is in squad

Lumen gets insane stat buff

[stray dove]

......heh
I just thought what if .....wait no that'd be stupid and only applies to S3

i just imagined S3 acting like Mint's washing machine.
But that's just fucking Degen isn't it?

[prime mountain]

Yeah

[woeful anchor]

damn

why

fish twink does nothing

[sinful sparrow]

iirc there's a couple relics in is6 that interacts with levitation

[woeful anchor]

and this changes nothing

[stray dove]

i thought about SP on kill but that also sounds lame....

[sinful sparrow]

ok what if you just

make her

innate bloodbath

[woeful anchor]

damn heavenly paradise solve

🚬

[sinful sparrow]

fib is pregnant again 😢

bro keeps thinking about hitcount slop

[prime mountain]

nervous impairment damage maybe?????

[woeful anchor]

hitcount good

[sinful sparrow]

mf is gonna explode into 25 sapid when he dies

[stray dove]

aspid?

[woeful anchor]

ur gonna explode into 25 wanglings when u die

[stray dove]

the hollow knight one?

[grizzled nexus]

what happened if drone got levitated btw?

[prime mountain]

Nothing

[stray dove]

does levitate stun only work on ground enemies:?

[prime mountain]

yeah

[woeful anchor]

u cant levitate air unit

[grizzled nexus]

like drone attacking Haruka's S3 bubble, they're not getting briefly stunned, just nothing?

[prime mountain]

Nothing at all

[woeful anchor]

they are same as immune to lebitate enemies

[grizzled nexus]

[sinful sparrow]

nope

[woeful anchor]

false u get railed by wang

[stray dove]

i didn't read up much about Wang. I was hoping he'd be like a Summoner that uses summons with 0 block
but we just had Raidian so it makes more sense for him to be a Trapmaster.

[woeful anchor]

trapmaster is thematically fitting

cos u toss weiqi pieces

and weiqi pieces look closer to mines than shit that can atk

[stray dove]

i thought about 0-block summons

so his Weiqi pieces stayed

and acted more like Mouthpiece damage or debuffs

or to be more accurate

how his pieces worked in boss

[woeful anchor]

too passive i think

idk

[stray dove]

but that's fine either way

trapmaster is 2nd best pick

for his theme

[slate hull]

it would be funny if it worked like the boss version

put 4 stones around something and it just dies

[stray dove]

it would've been interesting if different skills offered different perks based on layout formats

but would that be too rigid or too map dependent?

[slate hull]

I feel like there is not really enough tiles to be drawing shapes, maybe a stacking mechanic where you can place multiple on one tile could have worked

but then that is not really weiqi anymore

[stray dove]

yeah that's called HxH's Gungi

[rocky agate]

Bro Im losing my mind trying to difficulty 10 Ending 3 on IS6

I just keep selling on the boss fights

[prime mountain]

On which boss? f5 or f6 one?

[rocky agate]

Dissapointingly F5

[prime mountain]

Nah I wouldve been more dissapointed by Wang fight tbh

[rocky agate]

Im finally getting better at dealing with the encounter to change towards ending 3

[prime mountain]

Do you run Raidian?

[rocky agate]

Yes

[prime mountain]

You can pretty easily just spam s1 summons on boss

Try that

Just stall

[sinful sparrow]

furrilo my goat
will you grant me your divine and supreme luck so i can pull Wang

:mon3trsmug:

[prime mountain]

Yep max pot wang 0 chen dupes

!

[rocky agate]

I always run s2 and forget to switch s1 🥀

It was an amazing run too

Such high attack speed but I had too much stuff goin on my screen that I lost track

[prime mountain]

You kinda need to run into ed1 with a plan

[rocky agate]

I usually have a plan

But it was abnormally chaotic

[remote badger]

get rose salt whenever u think of ed3

[rocky agate]

And I usually get my skull stomped in at phase 2

[slate hull]

you need an unflinching masterplan

[rocky agate]

OH

[remote badger]

or haruka

[prime mountain]

Say that again...

[rocky agate]

And I had the thing that inflicts fear on block...

So Yi just kept walking into bad spots

[remote badger]

like the job is simple

[rocky agate]

Well sadly

[prime mountain]

DONT GRAB THAT

DO NOT

[remote badger]

u just dont let yi goes down and doesn't screw up ur setups

[rocky agate]

I was having such a good run I didnt think of the drawbacks

My greed always sickens me

[prime mountain]

There is no upside

dont grab it

ever

[rocky agate]

I know

My greed

[remote badger]

now u learn how to not be greedy

[rocky agate]

This should have happened the first two billion times Ive been greedy

[sinful sparrow]

i wouldnt complain

:mon3trsmug:

[prime mountain]

its not greed there is no upside

its just downside

[rocky agate]

More collectibles is my big brain greed

[prime mountain]

Big number = bad!!!!!!!!

[rocky agate]

b

b

b

Big number good :(

Idk the only other drawback to that run was the vouchers

I got like 6 sniper vouchers

Pass like Wisadel, I dont really care to grab another sniper

And I only got enough supporter vouchers to e2 radian

[remote badger]

dont ask about the vouchers

[slate hull]

you don't really need much for ed3, it is mainly just sp recovery and healing that are the main problems

[rocky agate]

I had sp recovery for once

[sinful sparrow]

ed3 on its own is very easy

[rocky agate]

But yeah my healing was not ideal

[sinful sparrow]

Clarity is harder

[prime mountain]

ed1 with ed3 relics is harder tbh

Like assuming you dont have 0 candle ops

[sinful sparrow]

ed2 with ed3 relics

and weichien

:mon3trsmug:

[rocky agate]

My healing was just ass cuz no medic vouchers

[prime mountain]

Consider shu draft, better than she seems tbh

[rocky agate]

I had perfumer and gummy and monstr both at e1

[prime mountain]

or saria if you're korean

[sinful sparrow]

draft fish eggs bro

🥀

[prime mountain]

Oh yeah dont do mon3tr

regular kal is better