#is-station

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stray dove
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Ela i recommend tho....

inland elbow
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probably slightly better than ange on average

stray dove
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her mines makes for easier more modern feed stall

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and her frags help to getting to Izumik too

noble orbit
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it seems her mines make it easy to do anything in this game

inland elbow
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that's because ela is the best IS op ever made yes

stray dove
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well, her value depends on the IS

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i ain't seeing her at all in IS6

noble orbit
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shes thanos everywhere else

sick mason
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Geexu overshadowed her :v

noble orbit
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dont they compliment each other

stray dove
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in specific ISs yes

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they work well together in IS3

cold fjord
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Alyssal

stray dove
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don't know about others

inland elbow
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they spammed together in is4 too

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they're not very comparable ops

stray dove
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plus IS3 is where I really got the most Ela value by being combo'd with Trag

inland elbow
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except that they're both specs

stray dove
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Ela mines + Trag cat is permastall

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for Ed2 and Ed3 IS3

noble orbit
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i do be borrowing ela for is4

sick mason
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Hehe permastall The Last Knight

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Just like in TN

stray dove
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TLK strats have mostly been permastall anyways

noble orbit
inland elbow
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in TN you literally just clicked lemuen skill like twice

stray dove
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those who bothered nuking TLK in D15 back then

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were madmen

sick mason
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With Tragodia its very funni

noble orbit
stray dove
inland elbow
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gg sucked unless you got solving aspd

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the real way to do it was with stainless buff squad

noble orbit
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buff who

inland elbow
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stainless

noble orbit
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oh crabs cant eb frozen

inland elbow
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yes

noble orbit
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Why have I never heard of this

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lol

inland elbow
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so you just giga buffed stainless and then let his s3 go ham

noble orbit
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this is quite genius

inland elbow
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because no one pulled stainless except dedicated is3 players

stray dove
noble orbit
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I did

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i even got stainless dupes

stray dove
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hope and voucher econ ain't as good in IS3 as what we have in IS5/6 these days

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with constant bosky and floor stalls

noble orbit
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is3 is true pain

inland elbow
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yeah stainless comp was a legit comp back in d15

open finch
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Keep coping

inland elbow
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dead af now

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nope it's not cope

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I played it!

stray dove
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ok can someone confirm

open finch
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No way brother

stray dove
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if that fucking Schwarz simp

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was actually doing legit D15 TLK clears

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with Schwarz nukes?

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or was that just highrolled to heavens?

inland elbow
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it was a highroll

stray dove
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knew it

inland elbow
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I mean you can just look at their relics

inland elbow
# open finch No way brother

(the secret is that you draft stainless late on f4 anyways and before that it's literally krooster + firewhistle+mylnar gaming)

woeful anchor
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🗣️

open finch
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Nowaying

woeful anchor
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i dont play is3

open finch
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How broken is mlynar

woeful anchor
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😇

inland elbow
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tbh I think tacfort was probably most real back then

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supps were actually good

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and firewhistle and cement were pretty legit

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and the fact that you don't just pivot to getting carried by a different op is pretty nice

open finch
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Holy shit I rmb the cement s1 technology

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Crow was a funny lad

sick mason
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Crap...

inland elbow
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mylnar is only doing 50% of the work instead of 90% like degen did in is4 😇

fickle jungle
sick mason
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I'm lacking tickets now but ok

fickle jungle
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f4?

sick mason
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Ye

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I have like 1 ticket now

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Tch I got Shen-Chu

noble orbit
fickle jungle
stray dove
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1 in f4

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1 in f4 WiW

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1 in f5

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Thats 45% atk for all ops

cold fjord
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is4 was designed for typhon

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not degen!

stray dove
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It wasnt....

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It really fucking wasnt

cold fjord
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it was
hence the dogshit ranged tiles

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👍

stray dove
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Same reason Nymph isnt designed with IS5

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Same reason Lazer isnt made for IS6

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The true "made for" started with Raidian

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The older IS welfares barely had much to work with

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With Tin Man being slightly more useful than older IS welfares

sick mason
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Speaking of Tin man

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Baiting me in IS6 I see

nocturne cape
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Hitcount solution at home

faint rampart
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~~ed3 healer ~~

odd spire
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does the is4 ed4 bosses' ability hit camouflaged/invisible operators? First time trying that ending

severe oasis
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iirc yes?

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should work just like ch10 cannon

inland elbow
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hits camo doesn't hit invis

odd spire
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damn, I can't just turn my brain off and get hard-carried by wisadel 😔

long garden
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hmm can’t decide on this one RedOmegaLul

chrome tangle
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top will give u knight and ED4

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trust

long garden
inland elbow
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Top path

long garden
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knight and ED4

chrome tangle
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easy

inland elbow
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Gaming

sinful sparrow
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@nocturne cape 52 relic on end of f3

nocturne cape
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ok but its tianshi

sinful sparrow
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too bad at proxy

muted skiff
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i need a raidian supp , anyone active ?

sinful sparrow
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🥀

muted skiff
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i like how everyone changed into trag

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sent

nocturne cape
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got you

muted skiff
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thanks

stray dove
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i removed my Raidian friend to help out for CCB4

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and there's a decent amt of Wis and Ines borrowers

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especially since my Wis is p6 and Ines is Mod3

sinful sparrow
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i have the goblet to trade into 2 more relics

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:joyplush:

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but i would like to keep my tickets for F4

nocturne cape
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it depends

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prob not tho

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you have 5 coupons left

muted skiff
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i put p6 sail every CC incase someone need it

halcyon flame
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I auto piloted earlier and em took 3 hope and a relic instead of ED3

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Never reset a run in my life so quickly

sinful sparrow
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play ed4

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🤫

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(diabolical)

halcyon flame
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🚮

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Fk u and ur free bosky

stray dove
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is she still used for her S3?

sinful sparrow
nocturne cape
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3 large eggs in a row

sinful sparrow
halcyon flame
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What’s large egg

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Is that no triple boss

copper orchid
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I heard there are many usable squad after dlc2

stray dove
copper orchid
stray dove
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the DP value of S2? Comboes well with Pralter?

cold fjord
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SA is broken

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thats why

stray dove
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i mean i know that but I'd never even imagine him being a choice pick for IS

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VGs tend to have that stigma

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but he does have the best DP value now

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combos with his frost slashes

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and S3 has fragile

copper orchid
nocturne cape
stray dove
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i can only imagine it helps that he buffs Karlann ops

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and Pralter's amazing in IS

copper orchid
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Cuz of how many mobs are there for ed5

muted skiff
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can you make enemy walk back to red door if you keep redeploy operator

nocturne cape
copper orchid
nocturne cape
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once you kickstart him with some sp regen he just carry your run

muted skiff
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nvm , it need rng

stray dove
nocturne cape
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i think proxy has the higher ceiling while tianshi is more consistent

stray dove
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I'm guessing SAlter + Ya2 combos are great?

nocturne cape
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shop and tourist also feels insane but i havent played enough games to comment

stray dove
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SAlter S2 + Curio sounds amazing as well

nocturne cape
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i dont have yato2 on CN so unfortunately cant test

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but yes yato2 is pretty good in expansion 2

stray dove
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DP discounts work better than DP printing especially when redep inflation costs are involved

nocturne cape
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not really

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DP discount is not exactly what makes S2 good

stray dove
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well i guess it depends on the frequency of the printing

nocturne cape
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its mainly the control it offers

stray dove
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i mean it feels just like Ines

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S2 printing good

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but her S2 laning is better

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its a complete package

nocturne cape
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on the contrary expansion 2 is pretty demanding on your actual dp generation

stray dove
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Ed5 relic and all that of course

nocturne cape
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since the boss mechanic requires you to play the dp game

stray dove
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they created Ssu Nung Hour so they can make a Baro 2.0 ending relic

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and then the Ed5 boss fight does make you deploy a lot

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btw Cube i want to know your thinking as to why DP inflation costs never felt bad in IS5

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even though we had fractured toil DP increase

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and also the Trader Epoch DP increase

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is it really just because Surfer + Lamp ASPD?

nocturne cape
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never felt bad?

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idk man

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i feel it all the time

stray dove
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heh

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I didnt feel it as badly as Baro or Ssu Nung

nocturne cape
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i think its bad enough

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in is5

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but yeah ig aspd is one factor

stray dove
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IS5 maps maybe start slow?

nocturne cape
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that too

sinful sparrow
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🗣️

nocturne cape
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tianshi gameplay feels boring tho

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despite being consistent

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nothing exciting

stray dove
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i mean

sinful sparrow
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i care about consistency

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i cant play proxy for the life of me

stray dove
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isn't better consistency = more boring naturally?

sinful sparrow
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its way too volatile

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one run i get 20 relics end of f3

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the other i get 40

nocturne cape
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that's definitely a you problem

stray dove
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the closer it is to make stuff move to what you want, potential risks involved stop existing making you less involved

nocturne cape
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20 relics is impossible if you play normally

sinful sparrow
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i am aware
idk where is the problem though!

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ur ded last sunday so i just played tianshi

stray dove
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maybe watch an entire run

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might help know the anatomy of a proxy run

nocturne cape
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yeah bro sunday is when i touch grass

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you cant play is 7days a week right

sinful sparrow
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i dont play 7 days a week either

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my lunch break only gets me to end of f3 🥹

pastel saffron
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someone was asking about shop rob with the coin squad, how do u go about it?

sinful sparrow
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and i am too busy

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you rob f6

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whatevah

nocturne cape
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draft every voucher from F1

pastel saffron
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even shop voucher?

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yeah thats what I was thinking too

nocturne cape
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you save 1 voucher max

pastel saffron
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if u can e2 raidian

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that would also help

stray dove
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....damn these strats be so different from what I'm reading right now in this convo

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I have yet to check on how much the newer squads change the way you do a run

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but it intrigues me

nocturne cape
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well Ice's talking about tourist so

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it's not a 'newer' squad

pastel saffron
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oh yeah its called tourist

nocturne cape
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its just an alternate way of playing the game

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rather than saving everything

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since you dont need a lot of ops for ed3 and you usually have enough hope to draft a complete comp without needing the hope discount

pastel saffron
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What about ed2

nocturne cape
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ed2 has 0 candleguest restriction so why do you care

stray dove
sinful sparrow
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pathfinder is also pretty piss cuz its -1 hope only

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idk man

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seems kinda shit

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why even path to it

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🫃

nocturne cape
stray dove
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well, if you're doing Tourist, yeah you might want to conserve for tosses

nocturne cape
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Its a current EN dlc0 playstyle

stray dove
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instead of vertical movement to pathfinder

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well, pre-Ed5, being candled has always been a boon

nocturne cape
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Its just how i like to play most of these non class squads

stray dove
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at least especially for some Hour debuff and Sui stamps

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and some coin perks

nocturne cape
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Yes, but aside from hope discount you get nothing out of a pathfinder, really

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So the strat is to recruit everyone on f1 and take the pf fight on f2

stray dove
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vanilla?

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or exp2?

nocturne cape
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Vanilla

stray dove
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interesting

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I'm so used to just doing F1 fights with 3 ops

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since Raidian can carry them anyways

nocturne cape
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I mostly do this with the two breaching squads and tourist

chrome tangle
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breaching? Binoculars

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R6

stray dove
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why Tourist specifically?

nocturne cape
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You want to actively look for good tongbaos

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So you cant waste your step on a node that only gives hope

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On tourist i never take the recruit option from pf

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Its always fight

stray dove
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damn, truly squeezing every value out of the squad

nocturne cape
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Breaching squads is a bit more obvious

stray dove
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if thats the case, that means coupons only go to tosses?

nocturne cape
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Since you have innate hope discount

nocturne cape
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Play flexible

stray dove
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ah yes. some verticals would give better combat routing for Tourist

nocturne cape
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I mean, theres hardly any point to retoss if all of your good tongbaos are combat buffs

stray dove
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do you keep the directional risk debuff coins in case of Ling in Tourist?

nocturne cape
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Re tossing only makes sense if you have a few good resource tongbaos like garrison farm, long distance or cultivate self

nocturne cape
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I usually replace 2 risks out of the initial 4

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So i have a decent odd to gamble the risk option at the wish node end of f2

pastel saffron
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btw when playing sniper medic what yall draft after kaltsit

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or just ignore medic vouchers

nocturne cape
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Ling is just the sugar on top

pastel saffron
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coz I draft medimiya with caster voucher

stray dove
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cause i feel like DEF and MSPD are more tolerable?

nocturne cape
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Almost always DEF and see if i got hoshi

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If not i replace west

stray dove
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yeah i was thinking RES cause of Hoshi

nocturne cape
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Yeah

stray dove
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although Raidian S2 is better to remove DEF for

pastel saffron
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bro wtf IS2 doesn't have combat on f1?

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wait its not f1

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its pre f1 or smth

grizzled nexus
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Hmmm, just doing Cliff of Geists (the one that rewards more ingots the more enemies fall into a hole), just realised that some of those enemies just fall to their own deaths if not taken by that car carrier.

Just got 30 ingots if I only delete those car carrier only.

stray dove
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yeah weird af floor debuff iirc?

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didn't know that

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damn

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so that was the "real solution" if there's no shifters

errant siren
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@pastel saffron

pastel saffron
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I have had all plays too and now I am missing so many

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damn they added so much in IS2

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I have 2 debuff collectible right from f1

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peak

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and floor debuff increasing hope to recruif

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wow this is so bad

naive heart
chrome tangle
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"free floor" to get another debuff

pastel saffron
stray dove
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going back to past ISs

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just makes you realize how shit IS2's wish node was

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and how annoying rolling a 1 in Wish node is in IS3

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and relying fully on encounter nodes for endings

chrome tangle
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honestly the rolling 1

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is not that bad

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cause the alternative is rolling a 6

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which was BlazeCum

stray dove
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it is bad when the relic you chose was something you really wanted

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the only time i ever wished to roll a 1

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was when both options were shit

sinful sparrow
chrome tangle
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haruka is slop

stray dove
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also an elitist because they're just renaming the fancy food caviar

chrome tangle
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jusan its not cause of that

woeful knot
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bro does not know

velvet ermine
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are you Fuckin kidding me, i have like 2 nodes left on the sui consciousness, i was hunting for the clarity node for ed3, didn't get it. is it always at the corners?

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and i have a very good rng and squad fuck this, i was so ready to clear it

velvet ermine
lost anchor
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Unlucky happens SkadiDaijoubu

velvet ermine
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there is 2 left and and i have 50/50 choice since i have 2 candle left. I have to pick a node that is beside the hidden node and i picked the wrong oen out of the two fuck

sonic sable
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Do you not take f2 bosky with tourist?

chrome tangle
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what did ur bosky look like

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for u to miss ED3

sly harness
chrome tangle
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it is like..impossible to miss ED3

sly harness
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Clarity is a stage you get from Pathfinder

chrome tangle
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ED3 is just the Go Board doubt node

sly harness
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The option to take it appears only if you have the first collectible obtainable from the Doubts

chrome tangle
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what did ur bosky look like

lost anchor
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it wasn't me

chrome tangle
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WAIT LOL

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wrong person

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@velvet ermine

sinful sparrow
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💢

faint rampart
chrome tangle
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pre-expansion

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and now

sinful sparrow
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pre dlc

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dlc2

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:mon3trsmug:

chrome tangle
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thats just erato

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she aint even here u liar!

gaunt bay
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damn how broken is pram alter

chrome tangle
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broken

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p6 worthy

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turst

woven prism
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hi there gang looking to grab raiden mod3 atm and spotted end of times in shop, I haven't tried this ending yet does end of times work on the tricky prereq fight

sinful sparrow
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she didnt even get to hit the enemies

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highroll galore

sly harness
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So you won't be able to go for ed3

stray dove
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^ Haruka was about to kill a man

errant siren
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Goldfish Idol wakes up and chose violence

ruby edge
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Seems familiar place

scenic saffron
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The funny ooc

steel relic
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They tooc inspiration

errant siren
stray dove
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getting off relics in IS6 feels not bad due to making them universally good with having hybrid effects like initial SP

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but i finally get a nice feeling of getting its full value from Hoshitter's S2

pastel saffron
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can't believe how easier ooc is in IS6

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I felt the IS4 stage was a bit harder tho

dim oar
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Waiting for flower squad next IS update.

pastel saffron
stray dove
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Hours vs Rejections + Call of We Many

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stronger ops by this point

sly harness
pastel saffron
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just having ground presence from raidian is so helpful

stray dove
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and yeah, IS6 Raidian is a huge boon

pastel saffron
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i feel like what I draft in IS3 is usually not that great for ooc

stray dove
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it's not just that

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IS6 just makes you way stronger

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than what IS3 can provide

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like it's not even funny if you read up on all the relics in IS2 and IS3 (hell, include IS4 as well)

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how strong relics are now

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people bitch at how much harder IS6 is but don't even consider how good relics and tongbaos are

sly harness
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also we are currently on d18 occ in IS3 and what we have in IS6 is more or less similar to the one from d15

pastel saffron
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IS6 imo is def just behind IS4

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for a casual player

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But like once u start comparing IS6 to other d18 IS

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shit feels easy ash

sly harness
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the problem with casual players is that they don't know how to get collectibles around which these new IS are slightly more balanced

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Whenever I see players saying they have problems with the new IS, they show runs where they have about 10 or 15 collectibles on f5

pastel saffron
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LOL

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Ikr

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also I have a friend who I taught shop rob

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they can clear IS3, IS2 easily

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IS5 is blueprint abyse

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but they struggle in IS6

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esp when going alt ending

stray dove
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the relic power on older ISs is just abysmal

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there's like at least 4-5 relics in IS2

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that's just squad size

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or deployment limit

pastel saffron
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bro I just played IS2

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I felt so weak

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😭😭

stray dove
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Wish nodes with NO OPTIONS

pastel saffron
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encounter nodes are sooo bad

stray dove
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encounter nodes that can give you jackshit

pastel saffron
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yeah I got 2 wish nodes and rhey gave me squad size

stray dove
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a waste of a node opportunity

pastel saffron
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only thing carrying me during IS2 was insta e2 snipers

stray dove
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also IS2 and IS4 have given me the shittiest feeling of F3 boss drops

pastel saffron
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is sniper medic best in IS2

stray dove
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oh great....Loyality

pastel saffron
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I feel like sniper caster is also pstacked

stray dove
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i still fucking remember that pointless relic

pastel saffron
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bro the negative relics have such elaborate effects

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and positive relic is like

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squad size +1

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thats it

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wtf

stray dove
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well

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it says on the tin

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whatever relic you're getting that's positive

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will be weak tier (it doesn't describe that it's of high value)

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its been like that since Hard Mode vanilla heh

pastel saffron
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No medic voucher gaming

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The poison haze stage almost got me

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maybe I should not touch Is2 for a while

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I have yet to max IS4 and IS5 battlepass anyway

stray dove
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you have Geexu. You're fine

pastel saffron
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so I'll set it aside

stray dove
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maybe 4-6 leaks at best on top and right lane leaks

pastel saffron
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I didnt leak anything

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just cycled thru my ops

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1 by 1

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and won

stray dove
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i mean that's just me considering a Geexu solo

pastel saffron
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IS4 lwk so slow for me

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Its kinda boring

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like its good

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but it feels more repetitive than others maybe

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idk

stray dove
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get Baro lvl 2, you'll feel slower than the map is slow

pastel saffron
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whats Baro?

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is that a collapse

stray dove
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yeah

pastel saffron
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Yeah I have gotten all collapse except rare ones in IS4

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It took me days to get same level on bp as I got in some hours on IS5

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IS5 farm is jus speeed

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I do like some IS4 relics tho, the hands are cool

pastel saffron
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not like IS3 or IS4 where having her feels like I have infinity stone

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or even IS6

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in IS2 she felt strong but not game breaking

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for some reaspn

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couldn't put my finger on it

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actually maybe I know why

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I had all the mfin atk debuff relics

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there was even that if ur dp isnt 99 -atk

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like bro

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😭😭

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and I get vg on f5

stray dove
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damn, the effect before the S2 attack drops look great (this is just me doing module requirements)

carmine token
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high diff is2 half of ur relic are cursed :ya:

quick pond
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YES YES YES YES I FINALLY GOT HER ENCOUNTER

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It took me 3 days of fatming but I finally got it😆🎉

pastel saffron
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is this dusk

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damn I have never gotten ts

carmine token
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Anyways congrats

sick mason
quick pond
carmine token
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dusk is already rare enough

quick pond
carmine token
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u could get collectbles for the encouter is with urn encouter with wants lp

quick pond
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Ok I looked it up
4 Corners Paint: anytime you deposit you gain a Tangbao

4 Seasons Brush: Gain 20 Coupons

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So luckily there isn't any collectables for completion😭

quick pond
tired wyvern
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What does fantasized display mean?

stray dove
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just a stronger version

tired wyvern
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How do u get all the king relic

stray dove
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Lamp

tired wyvern
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After I'm at 1 life point, one king relic per wish node

tired wyvern
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I thought u get all from one node?

stray dove
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that's a specific encounter node

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really inconsistent

tired wyvern
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Ahh alr thx

sly harness
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3 first kings available from Lamp is all you need

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4th is not necessary

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It only adds some SP and HP recovers

stray dove
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it's nice to have either way

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especially on a node that's not too useful, might as well transform it

sly harness
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True but you don't need to worry if you have only 3

errant siren
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For example +4 Hope box will give +6 instead on this difficulty.

carmine token
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n give really minor buffs

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like +2%atk or 3 aspd

tired wyvern
quasi path
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in IS6, is the highest tier ending medal acquired at A15, instead of A12 like in IS4/5?

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I couldn't find at what difficulty tier the medals changed for IS6 online

quasi path
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I see

sonic sable
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D12

quasi path
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I felt like while climbing up to D15 my medals weren't changing

sonic sable
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But 12 so easy i do it on 15

quasi path
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then again I was using the same squad "support squad"

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12-14 is pretty samey, not much difference but 15 is a big difficulty spike with +1 hope cost on 6 stars and more importantly the burning talons

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they're called talons right?

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no wait its talismants

faint rampart
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talons of hatredSpecterPray

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(but yeah talisman)

tiny cosmos
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The stage where you get increased rewards for pushing enemies into pits, is it really worth it? Any significant rewards for doing so? Or do you guys mostly just ignore it and take the free exp win

sly harness
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only Ingots

tiny cosmos
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Alright I’ll just ignore it

sly harness
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you will get 20-30 Ingots for that

tiny cosmos
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Yeah gotcha, was wondering if it was even remotely worth it to go out of my way and recruit someone specifically for that stage but nah

sly harness
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no, although if you happen to have Mizuki in a given run, he can drag everything into the holes

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or there is a trick to block shift everything into the holes with Raidian S1, but it requires a lot of precision

fallen inlet
earnest shuttle
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Is my run dead if the server is doing maint ?
(like this)

earnest shuttle
carmine token
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did it clear like say the mission accomplesht

earnest shuttle
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no after I killed the last one it just start submitting feedback like on the screen

carmine token
earnest shuttle
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I remember this happened before when I was doing storymode
I had to do it again, idk about IS

errant siren
carmine token
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no glyph??

earnest shuttle
#

NOOOExuHyperStare

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Fuck my stupid baka life

remote badger
#

for not checking the maint

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schedule

earnest shuttle
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I know the main I just forgot about it

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:realmadder:

remote badger
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not only you through

carmine token
native sky
slate hull
sly harness
#

yes. 3 Ingots per enemy

slate hull
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oh, I have been wondering what the whole rewards depend on the number of enemies that fall part was about, but it is just ingots

foggy roost
#

@nocturne cape Hi ! Are the low rarity op recommendations for IS6 updated for DLC2 ? If not, will they be ? ❤️ Thank you so much for your work!

nocturne cape
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likely will see some changes when DLC2 hits tho

low vortex
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hi cube big fan

nocturne cape
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hi light big fan

gaunt bay
nocturne cape
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wi hiki

gaunt bay
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How are you

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Good runs today?

nocturne cape
#

havent been playing today

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but recent runs have been ok

chrome tangle
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i'll give u cookie

nocturne cape
#

how about no

gaunt bay
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Birb why are you another type of food

chrome tangle
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Im not

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ive been this for a while now

wintry void
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Is there a place where I could find the is6 dlc1 changelog?

open finch
nocturne cape
#

the damage has been done

open finch
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Balls

nocturne cape
#

im not getting it again

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🥀

carmine token
tired wyvern
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Closer to the end

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D7 gave me like 933 or smtg

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Earning d10 should give close to 1200

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Which is hopefully around 3 levels a run.

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Meaning another 30 to 40 runs should be enough after reaching d10 to clear the battle pass

lost flicker
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Tired of getting Specialist vouchers in IS and not being able to pick or upgrade anyone. Any recommendations from these characters that do really well in IS?

slate hull
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uhh, gravel?

tired wyvern
lost flicker
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I didnt even know IS5 had something like that

faint rampart
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ethan....

tired wyvern
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U can just skip all the combat nodes

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And get more and more relics

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And enjoy life

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Wis gets 9k atk on skill activation 💀

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If u hv the relics ur 100 percent gonna get if u stay at 1 life point ig

lost flicker
#

Noted

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Ok I heard Gravel and Ethan

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Thanks y'all

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oh and Red

tired wyvern
faint rampart
#

red uhh?

lost flicker
#

Red is just more expensive but I'll upgrade her eventually as well

faint rampart
tired wyvern
slate hull
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you can also get Contrail for red certs, but I am not really familiar with how to use her properly, Gravel and Ethan are more commonly useful anyway

tired wyvern
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Just watch a guide on the pacifist route is5

faint rampart
#

is5KaltSip

tired wyvern
#

What does fantasized mean?

tired wyvern
tired wyvern
tired wyvern
nocturne cape
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some relics have upgraded effect scaling with difficulty

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fantasized means they're at a higher tier now

carmine token
tired wyvern
nocturne cape
#

doesnt really matter tbh

tired wyvern
nocturne cape
#

no, only a selected few

tired wyvern
nocturne cape
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like the ones that give squad size

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again, doesn't really matter

carmine token
#

n hope

tired wyvern
tired wyvern
carmine token
carmine token
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or 3% def on dep limit ome

tired wyvern
#

Wait, I get like 1200 exp for the battle pass at d10 per run rt?

tired wyvern
carmine token
tired wyvern
tired wyvern
#

Wanted to confirm pls

carmine token
#

idk

tired wyvern
#

Alr imma dip

tired wyvern
#

Anyone there?

#

So I noticed that in d10 which is next, the deployment limit is -1, but I unlocked a talent that adds a deploy limit, so does it cancel out the effects?

tired wyvern
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Tg. Was scared I could not deploy my ops

carmine token
tired wyvern
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I'm skipping all encounters and hoping for wish

carmine token
#

it dont matter on lamp+bp

tired wyvern
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But it's very inconsistent to get unlucky with this combo

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So meh

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2 more runs, and I can finally start farming d10

carmine token
#

when u have a okey builded account u can try other combosDocSmile

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cuz lamp+wis can get boring

tired wyvern
#

Let me get a better acc

#

The will come back to max out all IS once I'm like done with all stages or smrf

rich thorn
#

is flat atk better than +30% ?

carmine token
tired wyvern
tired wyvern
carmine token
#

at fated

carmine token
tired wyvern
#

Hmm

carmine token
tired wyvern
tired wyvern
carmine token
tired wyvern
carmine token
tired wyvern
carmine token
#

n plans

tired wyvern
#

ahh, so beef up more and get over 100 relics and stuff type of runs?

carmine token
#

or talons +ingots give like lots too

tired wyvern
#

Ahh alr

#

Wlep thx

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Imma go dip

#

Need to sleep. it's almost 2 am rn

carmine token
#

continue grinding is5

#

later

fickle jungle
tired wyvern
carmine token
#

is lowk the best thing hg madeDocSmile

slate hull
tired wyvern
#

Finally

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I'm here

#

Also d9 was difficult

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I actually failed once cuz I didn't get wisadel e2 before floor 3

#

But then again, the vision of ageless cycles is annoying AF

#

Im pretty sure that d10 is easier than d9 right?

copper orchid
tired wyvern
#

Plus the only thing thing that is bad in d10 is the

#

Extra boss hp

copper orchid
#

LappDumb yk that d10 has effect of d9 right

tired wyvern
#

Which makes no diff if u hv wis support

copper orchid
#

Basically the higher difficulty has all the effects of lower diff

tired wyvern
#

If I don't get e2 wis by floor 3 I'm cooked 😭

tired wyvern
#

Welp, sub 20 min runs is what I want

#

That seems possible

#

So it's alr

copper orchid
steel relic
pastel saffron
#

isnt scout node guaranteed on f2

copper orchid
#

Dont think so, its jsut high chance right

pastel saffron
#

so its not guaranteed

#

thats fucked up

copper orchid
#

I think its not

#

Might be wrong

raw hemlock
#

so with new rewards comes a new sightseer...
I've never used (or seen the kit for) Dusk before
what squad do I use? Tourist, Sui, and Tianshi are all upgraded

slate hull
#

imagine Lava, but 6*, Dusk is not a particularly good operator even with the IS mod

remote badger
#

thats the story in the future

#

that wont happen

lost flicker
#

Struggling with the jellyfish boss in IS3, I just don't have a way to kill it fast enough thanks to its incredibly annoying attack slowdown

lost flicker
#

You'll have to tell me what that is 🙏

remote badger
#

no context bruh

#

like the context isn't enough

lost flicker
#

What's ED1 or 4?

sinful sparrow
#

attack slowdown looks like ending 1

lost flicker
#

The stage is just called Curses of Cognition and the map looks like this, I don't really know anything about endings yet and I've just been trying to get as far as I can through IS3

#

I can deal with all the mobs just fine, but boss comes down from the middle and inflicts a major attack speed slowdown that makes it so I can't kill it

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Plus it's flying so I can't block it

static dragon
#

do you have anyone with stun, sleep or freeze?

raw hemlock
static dragon
#

use dusk DP cost reduction module instead tbh

raw hemlock
#

...this is the monthly op thing for is6, I don't own Dusk

lost flicker
static dragon
#

plus all m3 skills

raw hemlock
#

ok but what squad do I use?

slate hull
#

aren't all of the monthly missions difficulty 0? just pick whatever seems fun

static dragon
#

and you dont even need to win the run, just clear the mission

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and it doesnt need to be done in single run either

#

unlike the oldererer IS monthly

slate hull
#

yeah, this is the one time you can do something goofy you always wanted to try or go for something like ed2 into ed3

static dragon
#

it's good thing they forsaken is2 style monthly squad

stray dove
#

I am loving that the recent monthlies of ISs are giving really powerful relics

lost flicker
#

But none of them are leveled lmao

static dragon
#

welp

lost flicker
#

Any characters you recommend just borrowing then?

#

I've been borrowing an Exuisai forever now but she also just doesn't have enough to burst the boss down

static dragon
#

wisadel has stun

stray dove
#

but if you're getting tired of playing her

#

Wis, yeah....

#

maybe wait a bit more

spare ermine
#

Just Wis it

stray dove
#

Pralter is sounding like a great DPS IS ops

spare ermine
#

Pralter and SilverAlter are mid

#

We wait for Nasti

stray dove
#

yeah....sure

#

/sarcasm

lost flicker
#

I'll see if Wis is the solution to my problems

#

Thanks y'all

slate hull
#

are you sure you were using specialist exu and not sniper exu?

lost flicker
#

Yeah dw

#

I made that mistake when I first started lol

slate hull
#

okay, then it has to be the relics

lost flicker
#

Totally could be

#

But that's just the nature of rogue likes

#

I just figured that I was getting skill issued since I havent struggled this hard with IS6 or 1 yet

static dragon
#

kroos2 also has stun tbh

stray dove
#

indeed

#

but just remember

#

if you feel like Geexu felt like she's doing weak damage

#

the run is just that poor

#

and she's carrying that run far enough

#

when you would've died way earlier without her

sinful sparrow
#

??? but its d0

lost flicker
#

Real

sinful sparrow
#

wtf bro

stray dove
#

yeah doesn't matter if it's D0

sinful sparrow
#

yeah im not participating in this convo

stray dove
#

this guy wants bosses to melt in less than 3 seconds i reckon

lost flicker
#

This is what I get for being a newcomer

stray dove
static dragon
#

i remember when IS1 has relics that cut down redeployment tine really low

lost flicker
#

Go my funny oni, carry me

#

Then the borrowed Exu does everything else I need

static dragon
#

to the point you can redeploy yato 2★ the moment she dies

stray dove
#

we have videos

#

of Geexu having instadrop

#

to solo Jie foot alter

#

all by herself

static dragon
#

well, that's with all new relic

stray dove
#

it's hilarious that the brokenness of insta redep is back

#

stronger than ever

lost flicker
#

Oh yeah I should say that the runs I do manage to get S3 unlocked (thank you rng) for Exu, I can usually deal with phase 1 just fine

stray dove
#

how much would it take though to do it in IS6?
I am thinking the redep tongbao
specialist manuals oriented to redep

#

what else is needed?

lost flicker
#

Phase 2 is where the issue shows up of not being able to kill it due to the slowdown

static dragon
#

not to mention against graveyard where you just dont have half of your operator stats during the fight

lost flicker
#

Who

rotund copper
#

more when high

lost flicker
#

Oh true ty

lost flicker
#

Yeah I don't have her either

static dragon
#

she is also the boss

lost flicker
#

Guh

#

Yeah I've never seen her

#

Unless you're saying she is the jellyfish

stray dove
#

this is Highmore

#

after you beat the boss, and if you read the cutscene

#

this used to be her

lost flicker
#

aww

inland elbow
#

If you're playing is3, it depends a lot on the rest of your roster

#

Exu alt is stronger early on but wisadel has the better floor 5 and boss performance

lost flicker
#

Oh right what class is she

sinful sparrow
#

😢

#

snip

lost flicker
#

ty

inland elbow
lost flicker
#

why is this crazy lady signing the camera back up

sinful sparrow
#

not slop like that

#

🫃

lost flicker
#

ok what does her S2 do

#

trouble understanding it cause I have 2 and a half braincells (possibly)

inland elbow
#

s2: hits a lot in a lot of places, lots of damage but bad against high defence

#

s3: hits really hard in one big area, summons revenants

stray dove
#

S3: also hits air

lost flicker
#

neat ty

#

Which should I bring for stunning the boss on floor 5

inland elbow
#

there's a ton of choices

#

wisadel can do it

#

kroos alter is free for everyone and can do it

lost flicker
#

She is?

stray dove
#

yeah

#

do Invitation to Wine

lost flicker
#

woahhhh I didn't know I could unlock these things

#

woahhhh that's a lot of welfare units

#

this is what I get for not reading or watching almost any guides

inland elbow
#

most of them aren't that good

#

but kroos alter is really strong

#

and tequila is pretty good too

lost flicker
#

this is goated

#

I think Kroos is silly so this is good news

stray dove
#

there used to be a time when Lumen was top HPS

#

but that's been ages ago

#

btw

#

another welfare i recommend you getting it

#

Gladiia

#

whether it's just having the best pull specialist

#

or fueling the AH passives

#

she's still useful enough to get for new players

lost flicker
#

AH?

stray dove
#

abyssal hunters

#

they have talents that empower all other AH members

lost flicker
#

oh like the Ulpianus guy that I got

stray dove
#

yeah

inland elbow
#

ulpianus + gladiia is a pretty famous and strong combo for reward giving content yeah

#

it falls off a lot in high difficulty IS

#

but otherwise it's quite strong

stray dove
#

heh a lot of strong strats fall so hard once enemy stats go way too high

#

the recent Patriot risk challenge

#

my strongest burn squad can't even win its base difficulty

#

they really removed the training wheels on story fights-CC edition

lost flicker
#

I'll make sure to grab her too then since I happened to get Ulpianus from random pulls

stray dove
#

just a warning

#

AH squad investments are a bit expensive

#

due to module expenses

lost flicker
#

Fair

stray dove
#

and mostly capping their stats to the most dedicated

lost flicker
#

I don't plan on leveling them up anytime soon rn

#

too broke already

#

finally, damage collectibles

lost flicker
#

WIS CARRY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

thanks yall

stray dove
#

i mean

#

you got a high roll

#

enjoy it while you can

#

just getting Flinger hand on an IS is already a massive boon

lost flicker
#

real but I just unlocked 19 artifacts from that one run alone because I finally completed a run

inland elbow
#

gz lmao

lost flicker
#

progress

flat osprey
#

Finally beat ED3 coolcat sadcat

tired wyvern
#

If it is then damn, i cam finish IS 5 easily

tired wyvern
tired wyvern
#

Also, d10 is like sub 20 min clear per run I thnik

copper orchid
tired wyvern
#

I'll try it out in a bit

copper orchid
tired wyvern
tired wyvern
copper orchid
#

Once u get to 12 or higher should be much longer

copper orchid
#

Blue print?

tired wyvern
tired wyvern
copper orchid
#

Ahh ok

wheat vault
#

trying to get ED2 for raidian masteries, having a ton of op's candled, la creatura on steorids and a lot of stuff

#

meanwhile the candleland

#

i hate the requeriments for raidian's S3M2 man

inland elbow
#

well did the last legend node have it

fickle jungle
#

surely that last legend node is ed2

flint token
#

it’s gonna be that untouched node in the corner isnt it

woven prism
#

delighted I've got an almost surefire first win at ED3, just found out you can destroy these little black dots on the field, pretty handy

sinful sparrow
#

@nocturne cape ok nvm i found out why ed5 prereq has a few or like a trillion wallbreakers

#

its just the d18 modifier doing its work

#

the variant i found that only had a fee

nocturne cape
#

fraud

sinful sparrow
#

was just because i was on d16

nocturne cape
#

fraud

sinful sparrow
#

:joyplush:

#

grrrr

#

ur such a hater

#

i was trying out ed5 day 1!

chrome tangle
#

why didnt u mention cliffheart first

#

🥀

inland elbow
#

because they have wisadel fraud ass

chrome tangle
#

doesnt matter

#

u always SAY CLIFF

#

no.1 rule for bait is p6 sakiko

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and no.2 rule is draft CLIFF always