is-station

[stray dove]

Snipermed for a CE run sounds like the best way to go about it

just keep restarting till you see CE shop

[gaunt bay]

wtf sussuro

where puresteam

[manic wagon]

What is CE again?

[gaunt bay]

civlight

[nocturne cape]

civlight eterna

[gaunt bay]

i think

[nocturne cape]

this is public information

[manic wagon]

AHH, wait, is it a bad idea to run IS6 with Perfume? I got too busy to build Puresteam

[main bison]

give up Raidian to Scout for Candlelight

FML, I already want to quit this run

[nocturne cape]

perfumer is fine

great even

[mild coral]

does fear also count for children puppet/victory horn?

[stray dove]

Sussuro is the queen of burst healing for 4*s

it's just that it can only be used twice per fight

Purestream really just feels like what Meyja is in 6* medics

skill and kit too good

that she becomes the best healer of the rarity of the medic class

[sick mason]

And as a bonus, she's a Yan operator

[sinful sparrow]

cheeto comp raidian?

[stray dove]

iirc it's bind, stun, and freeze?

[nocturne cape]

well

its raidian

so you can play whatever

[sinful sparrow]

naruhodo

[manic wagon]

Imma watch Puresteam yt

On second thought, you are right , I need another Yan

[stray dove]

Geexu?

Geexu and Pure are the easiest picks for 2 Yan req

unless you want 4

[sick mason]

Windscoot also free

[round trellis]

she has the correct range for ending 3 and is a yan

[sick mason]

If you chose guard/supporter/medic starter

[stray dove]

wasn't Pure already the go-to back in IS5 when it made 4* free recruits?

[sick mason]

Ye Purestream too good to skipped on

Huge range since she's a therapist medic

[round trellis]

Not really you still took sus sometimes

[stray dove]

well

Sus did solve some Epoch issues

or brutal harass

[manic wagon]

I was wondering why I wasn't able to enter a node in Sui consciousness until I find out it required Yan operators

[prime mountain]

Dude how can you be wondering that

it literally says

have 2 or more yan operators recruited

[stray dove]

to be clear, is that a Doubt node?

[sick mason]

Ah yes doubt node

Either 2 or 4 Yan ops required

Someone please add to the pinned for the list of current Yan ops

[mild coral]

hm also is the dp meta agents or flagbearers for is6

[sick mason]

Or Yan-related ops

Because not all Yan ops are actually hailed from Yan

[timber heart]

If I had an E1 hoshi alter, could I just perma hold Yi up top blocking Yi in the spawn with a healer or Yi does too much damage?

[sinful sparrow]

the dp meta for IS in general is agents

[sick mason]

They just happened to stationed there or have relationship there

[sinful sparrow]

flagbearer when -50% SP:

pioneers in 2026:

[prime mountain]

on d0 hoshi can absolutely just solo

[stray dove]

I sometimes take Myrtle when hope is tight

cause her S2 is helpful in Ed3

from when you really are desperate

for any healing source

[timber heart]

It would be D2! @prime mountain would that be possible.

[manic wagon]

Yes, it is a Doubt.

I didn't read that Doubt option, and kinda rushed to get battlepass rewards. I know it was a stupid move 😅

[slate hull]

battlepass?

[stray dove]

btw how badly did you guys do mpreg discussions for this to happen

[slate hull]

oh, the level thing

[manic wagon]

Yeah

[faint rampart]

wtfrick

[woeful anchor]

bro doesnt know about the lore

[faint rampart]

im new sorry

wonder if its also related to mika getting unhelpful role

[prime mountain]

Oh it was bad

💀

Wasnt this the gfl2 feet gooning

[nocturne cape]

now time for the 5050

and nice f5 stir fry

[mild coral]

this hitcount check stage is actually bullshit

[nocturne cape]

ig the winstreak continues

[round trellis]

Bruh, no f5 pathfinder

[nocturne cape]

happens

[round trellis]

[nocturne cape]

extremely rare btw

you hit the jackpot

[round trellis]

I have been scammed

[pine sun]

Any1 tried hoshi as a starter for is6?

[nocturne cape]

works but not fantastic

you still would prefer raidian

[faint rampart]

its not so good

[pine sun]

But you select the team with radian already?

[nocturne cape]

wdym

[stray dove]

Special squad

[nocturne cape]

i dont play special squad

[stray dove]

i reckon

[pine sun]

Yes special squad

[faint rampart]

anything works with raidian

[stray dove]

yeah no these guys are using other teams. Special squad is just either too good. Or useless with Raidian bans (flex/competitive/challenge)

[faint rampart]

ugh

[stray dove]

did you at least beat Gopnik?

i'm guessing no with that 1 gramo

[faint rampart]

couldn't

[round trellis]

It’s decent but you can’t really rob shop f1, unless you have raidian too.

You really start to feel the dp pressure though if you don’t get an agent by floor 3

She’s the best defender ticket 6 star if you already have healing covered, but tbh the competition wasn’t exactly strong.

[nocturne cape]

F6 woodfeedsflames 😉

[main bison]

Yi time

[stray dove]

ah yes, i guess it is pretty decent to try to fish that in Plan

lowest rarity

although that does mean you might want to be lucky enough

that it doesn't proc the moment you exit WiW

FeedsFlames is one of the strongest coins

balanced by being Dayan

[main bison]

already not doing well

these yellow ring guys hurt really bad

yeah, I'm losing everyone immediately, help wanted

yeah, I'm stuck

EVERY SINGLE TIME

don't tell me to watch videos etc

I know how those guides work, this just does not work for me at all

yeah, I hate this game

none of this BS works regardless of what coins, relics or operators I have

[gaunt bay]

:icant:

[stray dove]

have you tried

killing the flame guys first

before you even stalled?

you can't tank those

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1413566253506760724.png

[stray dove]

solves 2 immediately

while Geexu still controls the left lane

also

where the fuck did you put Raidian?

why is she dead?

Raidian could've been here

"I know how those guides work" my ass

more like zero adjustments

[main bison]

I seemed to have found a recovery

[stray dove]

Ender

my dude

your last screenshot

was literally Cube stating

[main bison]

I didn't even get a chance to

[stray dove]

once you're in the the 21-22 enemy spots

you wait for Yi to get to left

then stall

it was absolutely recoverable

so yeah, I don't get why you give up so easily

when the best skill you can have in AK is recovering and adjusting on the spot when things don't go well

nothing ever goes 100% correct. Not in IS

[main bison]

I somehow recovered, but those guys at the start killed me

[stray dove]

yeah learn from that

kill the burn guys

those are the worst starters to pop up

[main bison]

I didn't even know how/get the opportunity to

[stray dove]

ENDER

did you just ignore the very screenshot i drew in?

[main bison]

bells even worth it at this rate?

[stray dove]

fuck it

it feels like everything goes from one ear to the other

[round trellis]

Is this the new dragslayer?

[main bison]

give me a minute to read FFS

Raidian was at the bottom

[stray dove]

Ender this is a chat

[main bison]

and she died immedately

[stray dove]

not a reddit post

converse with us

[main bison]

I don't do Reddit

[stray dove]

not just traumadump

[main bison]

so I don't even have a clue

I'm just frustrated by this crap every single run

[stray dove]

you posted 3-4 pics on one go

talked to "someone"

and never read back

[main bison]

wasting an hour to fail

that really never helps me learn anything

[stray dove]

Ender

you visit here a lot

you see a lot of pictures

do you just

not bother looking at them?

[round trellis]

You really just learn nothing from the experience?

[main bison]

it doesn't mean I fully understand them

[stray dove]

mimic none of the placements?

[main bison]

not when I don't know why I failed

[round trellis]

You don’t need to understand, just copy

[stray dove]

Ender

your issue is

you don't know WHY you failed

[round trellis]

Even toddlers learn like this

[main bison]

I obviously learned those stupid ring guys need to die first

well, copying doesn't work

because obviously not all of the variables are the same

[stray dove]

did you at least learn from me

to NOT take Coin Geist?

[main bison]

I learned that yes

[stray dove]

small progress

a win at least

[main bison]

and the placement you mentioned

but again, Bells or Mask?

[stray dove]

btw, only use that Geexu placement when lamp enemies are in the middle

[main bison]

I'm assuming Mask since I have Hoshi Alter

[stray dove]

not exactly best Geexu placement

just take that

[main bison]

yeah, I understand that

[stray dove]

I do not trust you to stack Bells

[main bison]

well, I'm F6 anyway with a mostly full squad

[stray dove]

no i mean you can stack bells

high chance Pathfinder in F6

but i don't trust you to succeed that

[main bison]

that's fair, I don't trust myself to do so either

middle?

I've seen this one before, but I legit forget

I literally am lucky to run once a night, maybe even 2-3 runs a weekend at most

[stray dove]

STOP

just don't

[nocturne cape]

Let me see your relics

[stray dove]

thats the one with the spiraling dragons

[stray dove]

although

[stray dove]

now that we have Hoshitter

That map would be easier

[nocturne cape]

Youre fine

Hoshi S2

Once the dragons move to your bluebox drop her on top of them next to the bluebox

She should afk this map, if not with some more help from your other ops

[main bison]

I was going to stream, but I wasn't sure anyone would watch/was available

so which choice then Cube?

[stray dove]

Cube yo have time?

[nocturne cape]

Uhh sure i can type ig

I would take middle

[main bison]

oh god, this map

[stray dove]

E1 Pure. Tch. Not ideal but usable

wow....

did you really just take it

without knowing?

[main bison]

he said to

[nocturne cape]

theres no trick to it

[stray dove]

i mean you can

[nocturne cape]

its just hoshi afk

[main bison]

I trust in Cube

[stray dove]

Cube just meant

to let them start walking to blue box

then block the exit when they're near

[main bison]

so wait for them to head towards the blue box, then drop Hoshi?

[nocturne cape]

yeah

[stray dove]

thats the only time

[main bison]

that seems easy enough, no medic or anything?

[stray dove]

you can cleanly attack them

put someone at least...

[nocturne cape]

drop hoshi on top of them when they're next to the bluebox

[stray dove]

just to be safe

[nocturne cape]

you cant really drop anyone

[gaunt bay]

how broken is hoshi

[nocturne cape]

theyll just die

[main bison]

next to as in the tile where I can put melee?

[nocturne cape]

the very upper right tile

the one next to your blue box

hoshi S2

[main bison]

ok, I assumed as much

[nocturne cape]

you have water of life and stir fry

[grizzled nexus]

Very good for Clarity

[nocturne cape]

this should be sleeper

[stray dove]

oh good point

[severe oasis]

hoshi singlehandedly solved more than 80% of the stages i had any trouble with lol

[stray dove]

Water of Life helps the off rec

[severe oasis]

btw wheres the best spot to put hoshi in clarity? ive just been putting her above the red box

[nocturne cape]

id be really surprised if he loses this

some stacks on dish + water

should be more than emough

[stray dove]

i mean the usual spots where Lazer and/or Mlynar goes to

bot is a good option

[nocturne cape]

i put her there too

[severe oasis]

i feel like she can be placed more aggressively

[stray dove]

so she can tank the dragon boss

[nocturne cape]

because the first set of enemies walk up

[main bison]

well that worked

[severe oasis]

yeah exaftly

[main bison]

but anxiety inducing

[severe oasis]

okay cool

ill keep doing that

[nocturne cape]

theres no anxiety

[stray dove]

The strength of Hoshitter S2/S2M3 is

[nocturne cape]

hoshi is a fucking fortress

[stray dove]

she heals % based

so if her HP is high af

[severe oasis]

you use s3 right?

[stray dove]

it's not gonna matter

and can outheal the damage

[nocturne cape]

and the lower she is the more RES she has

[stray dove]

Tenacity yeah

[manic wagon]

Wow

[stray dove]

it's hilarious that the gist of Hoshitter is being underappreciated...

[severe oasis]

still, my main problem in is6, is killing the animals in boskys

[stray dove]

when she's literally a Logos with more utility and can tank sometimes/mostly better than Ulp

[nocturne cape]

yep

[vagrant chasm]

i don't get how the hitcount enemy doesnt just instantly die to hoshialt s2

[nocturne cape]

s2 uptime is a problem

[main bison]

I just picked up Yato, Candle E2 her or Exu?

[nocturne cape]

and its only 15 hits or smth

[main bison]

the Medic was for Purestream

[severe oasis]

seriously hoshi was so like, underhyped for how good she is imo

like obviously she wasnt underhyped in general

[stray dove]

goes to show the brainrot

[severe oasis]

bt shes so much better than i anticipated

[main bison]

and I have 2 Caster, I thought about using those for Lappalter

[stray dove]

to be fair

Ulp in release

[nocturne cape]

is it E2 yato

[stray dove]

was also questionable

for the players

[nocturne cape]

ender

[severe oasis]

dude help was literally telling people to skip ulpi

[main bison]

no, she's E1

[severe oasis]

do u remember this

[stray dove]

until they warmed up to Crushers

[nocturne cape]

exu candle

[main bison]

so it's either use Exu or E2/Candle Yato

but Exu it is

[stray dove]

my dude help would literally tell people to skip everything that ain't a Geexu/Trag/Wis

[nocturne cape]

E2 yato is like a confident pick here and exu is the safe pick

[severe oasis]

like wtf were we skipping ulpi for? wis was over and pepe was next

there was no reason to skip him

[nocturne cape]

technically wisadel + raidian will hold ed3

[vagrant chasm]

well any tanky dps unit gonna be compared to ulpianus everyone will be underhyped

[nocturne cape]

but if you're not confident enough just go exu

[main bison]

yeah, I was going to use Wisadel in the middle

[severe oasis]

im glad i pulled ulpi still

even if i dont use him in IS

at all

[nocturne cape]

id use haruka in the middle

she can cover every highground

[main bison]

but I've never done it with Yato, though I know the idea is to remove her before she lands

[stray dove]

if it was my pick i'd put Hoshitter to block top lane to tank Shanhaizong stealth stabbers. Her S3 can still nuke Wang's pathing from middle top

[nocturne cape]

im also on f6 i think i can show you a rough placement before you get to the boss

just need to do a garrison rq

[severe oasis]

can i watch u do garrison

[nocturne cape]

uhh sure

[main bison]

so Candle Exu or Yato then?

[stray dove]

Garrison is just, killing Potemkins without going in their range

[stray dove]

....what? When do you not candle Geexu?

[severe oasis]

are u highrolling btw

[stray dove]

self-challenge or something?

[nocturne cape]

semi highroll ig

[main bison]

hey I got Garrison as well

[nocturne cape]

5 stack drum 0 stack fry

[severe oasis]

inch resting

[stray dove]

good

Inferno's worse

[main bison]

me? no I'm dumb

last time I did Garrison, I had no idea what I was doing and cleared it just fine

[stray dove]

btw Ender i just gotta ask

if you're doing D12 Ed3 clears

i reckon you've done all Ed1 D12 clears

so why is Yi still a challenge or mystery for you?

[main bison]

I haven't done all ed1 clears yet

[stray dove]

oh....

[faint rampart]

[main bison]

well, when I chased ed1 for IS5 it was easy

[stray dove]

just doing whatever ending you feel like huh

[main bison]

but when I did ed3/5, I struggled with ed1

[stray dove]

i mean

ending route debuffs

[main bison]

well, I'm doing Tact/Fort right now and already did ed1

[stray dove]

that's just normal

[main bison]

and I'm just not in the mood for ed2

[nocturne cape]

@severe oasis if i have a second carry i would put them on the left side

just fyi

i dont for this game

[stray dove]

better make sure that ain't a firepit...

or else, wasted

[nocturne cape]

archetto is deleting everrything

normally you wait til they're at the upper right corner

[severe oasis]

right side spawn is harder right

[nocturne cape]

and then use agent to trigger them

[faint rampart]

two of them

[nocturne cape]

so bomb drops directly downward

yeah imo

left is easy

[gaunt bay]

rose :3

[severe oasis]

kiwi :3

[shrewd pier]

for ed3 in is6, is there a shop on floor 6?

[severe oasis]

wtf archetto

[faint rampart]

already on life support with no shoprob then game decides to waste my candles too

[nocturne cape]

haruka solves this stage pretty well

[sick mason]

Huh that's something else

[severe oasis]

im already like okay with garrison but id like to learn to do it really consistently

[stray dove]

good start

[stray dove]

a good nuking from the sides is really the start

spawncamping the red box on the left

so that any Potemkins can be killed before they march

[nocturne cape]

the main thing is knowing when to bait what

[stray dove]

either you bait

or avoid even being in their range (cardinal directions that ain't hidden)

[main bison]

oh no

[nocturne cape]

raidian fishes will run out on this stage

[main bison]

I didn't even know they could go that way

[severe oasis]

i still think inferno is worse lol

[stray dove]

Fcking hell i forgot you don't have Wisadel

Wisadel is who i put on left spawncamping

[main bison]

I had Wisadel

but the right side dudes leaked

[severe oasis]

asca s3?

[main bison]

no

[nocturne cape]

yeah

[severe oasis]

talkigng to cube

[nocturne cape]

asca s3

[main bison]

oh

[nocturne cape]

doing her mastery soon

[main bison]

uh

[severe oasis]

is it just for range

[nocturne cape]

yes

[severe oasis]

hm

[main bison]

I don't ever remember anyone coming from the right side the last time I did this

how do I deal with those idiots next time?

[severe oasis]

i dont struggle with wang but ill watch anywau

[main bison]

it's the pillars isn't it?

[stray dove]

here's what i use

and make sure to not drop anyone that might splash onto them

[main bison]

well, that was a waste of an hour and a half

[stray dove]

Ender

for those hours to not be wasted

[main bison]

yes?

[stray dove]

LEARN

what we just shared

[main bison]

I see your screenshot above

was Hoshi ok, or should have she been closer to the blue box?

[severe oasis]

dude i should build archetto lmao

[stray dove]

Hoshi is always ok.
But keep in mind

[main bison]

I have Archetto, but haven't tried her

[stray dove]

Garrison

[nocturne cape]

something like this ender

[stray dove]

is all about avoiding splash damage

[nocturne cape]

one carry top one carry bottom

[stray dove]

or avoiding being seen

[main bison]

who's that to the left of the middle, is that Ascalon?

[stray dove]

also Ender, remember what you did in that Yi fight earlier?

that's the very strat Cube taught you yesterday

[severe oasis]

its asca yes

[nocturne cape]

ascalon but it doesnt matter

[stray dove]

once 21/22 enemies are dead/leaked

[main bison]

that's the strat he showed me earlier today

but yes

[stray dove]

let Yi walk

all the way to the left

then stall him there

[main bison]

I didn't have a choice but to let him walk

[stray dove]

Ender!

[main bison]

I literally lost 9HP getting to that point

[stray dove]

Cube taught you this!

[main bison]

but I understand the strat

[stray dove]

did you just ignore the stuff shared to you yesterday?

that was Cube's tips for you to solve Yi

[main bison]

that was this morning for me

[stray dove]

12 hrs from now

yeah

[flint token]

yi is easy just get tongbaolice + 13 spike chest map

[main bison]

and after watching is video earlier, I understood the assignment

[stray dove]

good

at least there's progress

i hope

[main bison]

the issue I had this time was those ringed guys

[woeful anchor]

mf just watch the 2 op relicless and copy

[stray dove]

no no

Fib

[main bison]

which you provided a solution to

[stray dove]

Ender needs to be taught a different way

[woeful anchor]

???

[stray dove]

he can't mimic what he can't understand

[main bison]

^this

[stray dove]

you don't just say "copy this"

[woeful anchor]

whats not understandable about tragodia permastall

[stray dove]

Fib, not everyone learns fast or fast enough

[main bison]

not so much can't understand, it's more that I don't

[stray dove]

unfortunately, that's just normal

[woeful anchor]

what

[sick mason]

Sweats again

[sinful sparrow]

Bro can just go the easy way out and just slam hoshi s2 haruka s2

[main bison]

and I've done Tragodia before

[sick mason]

A DAMN ARDUOUS TRADE IN FLOOR 1 SHOP

[stray dove]

the variation was burning enemies in middle

so yeah

[main bison]

I wanted to, that didn't work

[severe oasis]

basically how all my wang clears go too

[stray dove]

not ideal

[severe oasis]

bro is just free

[stray dove]

he did it anyways

[nocturne cape]

yeah no real challenge there

[stray dove]

did that stall while burning

so yeah

[nocturne cape]

at worst you leak some dragons but thats it

[stray dove]

Hoshi and Haruka died

[woeful anchor]

bro

trag radian is easy already

no precise timings required

[severe oasis]

whatd you do for sui

i havent rly tried it without exu

[main bison]

I leaked the burning guys more precisely

but failed miserably on Garrison

[stray dove]

Fib, not everyone who hangs out here learns strats easily. Some cna't even copy anything without knowing why they have to do it.

[nocturne cape]

usually raidian is your main carry

if i feel like i miss damage ill draft entel over leizi

[severe oasis]

hmm

i draft entel first no matter what

not sure if thats ideal

[main bison]

why does it seem like Guards get the shaft this IS?

[stray dove]

Ender

they've been shafted since IS3

[main bison]

I guess there's that new Lord coming

[stray dove]

hell

late IS2

[severe oasis]

suss>purestream?

[main bison]

we had Degen for IS4

[stray dove]

and?

[main bison]

Wisadel carried IS5, so I've got nothing

[stray dove]

1-2 Guards

[woeful anchor]

wat

[nocturne cape]

for tourist i pf fight f2

[woeful anchor]

u use catto to prevent enemy walking to blue box

[stray dove]

Fib, we literally have Ender right here

he's proof

[woeful anchor]

if they dont know why cat is strong

then idk wat to tell u bruh

[main bison]

well, if you'd explain it to me instead of saying copy X, that would be more insightful

[stray dove]

Fib, I recommend you even try to teach Ender yourself

good luck

[main bison]

because there's times I think I'm copying X and it doesn't work out

[stray dove]

and Ender doesn't know why it didn't work

he doesn't know how what the differences are

he doesn't consider relic differences

he doesn't consider timing differences

he just copies 1:1 without question

[woeful anchor]

it means u didnt copy properly

[stray dove]

and fails to understand why his doesn't work

[faint rampart]

hes just like me frfr

[main bison]

it's more like I want to know why I need to consider X over Y

I mean, I'm not completely stupid

but some nights playing this I start to question why I play at all

[stray dove]

Ender, you salvaging that Yi fight without our nput

i give you kudos to that

you're starting to adjust

[nocturne cape]

4 wins in a row

[stray dove]

starting to learn for yourself

[main bison]

oh, I had input, it was Cube's strat

but when you get used to doing it a certain way, because it works

[stray dove]

good that you remembered

yeah thats the issue of doing the same thing all the time

[brave moss]

how does this work? i go to floor 3 and her summon still cost the same?

[severe oasis]

if you feel like streaming a full run i will watch a full run LOL

[stray dove]

you stop getting better

[main bison]

then when things go sideways, it's always hard to recover if you don't know anything

[woeful anchor]

if you watch a clear and dont ask yourself why the strat works then youre not gonna learn

[main bison]

it doesn't help

[stray dove]

That's Ender, Fib.

unfortunately

he doesn't know why it worked

[main bison]

the problem is that most who post/stream don't explain anything

[stray dove]

but he will just accept it

[woeful anchor]

if u dont read boss mechanics and fail it is entirely your fault

[errant siren]

You need to go F4 to have no DeployLimit waste buff.

[stray dove]

Ender, describing it is like what we're doing right now

it's gonna be an hour long video

[main bison]

yeah, sometimes I don't do that

[brave moss]

how about the dp cost?

[stray dove]

if thats what you're after

[errant siren]

It's initially active.

[brave moss]

ah i see. the wording make it hard to understand for me

[errant siren]

Like normally they costs 16-18.

[fresh cloud]

Does destroying the Dragon Mouth in IS6 gives you something?

[main bison]

I mean, most events I copy an AFK strat, not because I'm lazy, it's because I don't have tons of extra time

[stray dove]

cash

[faint rampart]

4 coins?

[stray dove]

cash

[woeful anchor]

yeah most people who post clears dont explain, youre supposed to ask yourself and try to understand

[errant siren]

You deploy them at 7-9.

[faint rampart]

/ingots

[nocturne cape]

i knew that ms coin is gonna mess this up

[fresh cloud]

Oh okay ty

[nocturne cape]

xd

[stray dove]

wait

[main bison]

that's hard when you just accept that it works

[flint token]

tbf explaining is kind of a pain in the ass

[main bison]

stuff kind of happens fast

[stray dove]

your strat messed up due to Stove Alight?

Cube?

were you timing something?

also the video Ender wants

will just sound to us like

[faint rampart]

omg cube strimming is6 run

[stray dove]

"OBVIOUSLY, like no duh"

[woeful anchor]

the good thing about videos is you can pause and rewind

[main bison]

kind of like robbing F1, I've seen plenty of strats for it, but I can't seem to get it the way they do

[woeful anchor]

or slow it down

[main bison]

I mean when I'm doing the maps

[nocturne cape]

nothing to watch here

stalling fest

[stray dove]

he needs someone talking with explanation

[main bison]

there's been times I leak because I'm too slow

[stray dove]

no talking = useless to him

[severe oasis]

this is riveting gameplay

i love this part

[woeful anchor]

are you playing on emulator

just press pause

[main bison]

yes, but I also play on mobile

this morning I did that

[woeful anchor]

yeah press pause more

[stray dove]

mobile is a handicap

[woeful anchor]

pausing gives u infinite time to think

[stray dove]

by this point

[main bison]

and it's not always easy playing on an emulator

but it's better than mobile

[woeful anchor]

yeah mobile is harder

[main bison]

I can't do those pause tricks etc

[stray dove]

NO NO

[main bison]

and refuse to learn how

[stray dove]

Ender

you don't need those

just....pause

[woeful anchor]

you dont need pause tricks

[main bison]

I know I don't

[woeful anchor]

u just need to know what your next move is

so pause to think

[stray dove]

MY HOTKEYS

Z pressed x1/x2

X presses pause or go

[main bison]

are hotkeys even legal?

[stray dove]

are emulators legal?

[main bison]

I legit am concerned about being banned etc

[stray dove]

my dude

there's no official emulation

none

[main bison]

I can't wait for PC client

[stray dove]

indeed

[main bison]

but that's another topic

[stray dove]

PC client in CN

has keybinds

[nocturne cape]

just 5 more minutes guys

[main bison]

I remember spacebar changing speed on Noxplayer

[stray dove]

that guy just wouldn't die without something like....maybe Raidian S3

[main bison]

or one of the emulators I ran before GPG

but since that crashed out, I'm using MuMu

[nocturne cape]

it takes 10 min

[stray dove]

Ender

[nocturne cape]

but its worth it for the 4 ingots

[stray dove]

I'm literally using MuMu

[faint rampart]

no way you do it too

[errant siren]

Autoclickers are.

Hotkeys is fine.

[main bison]

that I knew

[orchid acorn]

doing IS 6 ragebaited me

[woeful anchor]

why not just withdraw 4

[orchid acorn]

💔

[woeful anchor]

😭

[stray dove]

literally using MuMu right now

[main bison]

I just didn't want to tempt it

well I had it opened before I closed the game out, but yeah

[nocturne cape]

what if i was gonna withdraw 12

[stray dove]

Ender, emulation is...tolerated

[nocturne cape]

thoughts?

[stray dove]

it ain't official

[woeful anchor]

then ur slop

[stray dove]

it's also not a crime

but it's tolerated

[main bison]

I'm aware

[stray dove]

just don't show it off in a video

and endorse it

[woeful anchor]

youre using

[main bison]

speaking of which

[stray dove]

and you're gonna be fine

[brave moss]

killing the dragon head give you ingot?

[sinful sparrow]

????

wtf

stop cooking

[stray dove]

yes

[stray dove]

thats the point of killing it

[sinful sparrow]

bro

[stray dove]

cause you can choose not to

[sinful sparrow]

😭

[stray dove]

and shut its mouth off

and do nothing to it

[brave moss]

TIL, thanks

[woeful anchor]

bro just withdraw 4

[stray dove]

but it gives ingots

[main bison]

I've been seeing those websites advertised where you can buy ingame stuff, and be like, that's sketch

[sinful sparrow]

@nocturne cape nymph scammed me

she couldnt proc feet without a myriad of relics 🥀

[fresh cloud]

If I replace this coin after I got the first toss, do I keep the +80 ASPD?

[brave moss]

what hsould i do here? i always lose when i have this boss

[sinful sparrow]

last run i got blademace as the only real external buff

[main bison]

it's not tossed

[stray dove]

it has to stay here for it to work

[sick mason]

No

[fresh cloud]

Yeah, but I mean after I tossed it once

[stray dove]

it has to stay THERE

[sick mason]

Did you not read

[unkempt flower]

I'm done being nice. 5 times you in a row?!? Hell no

[main bison]

once you replace it, it's gone

[stray dove]

my screenshot

that coin needs to be here for it to work

replacing it REMOVES it from here

the only replacing that's safe are the ones that IMMEDIATELY rewards you

[sick mason]

Raidian-less run. How bold

[stray dove]

like LP/Ingots/Hope

[fresh cloud]

Ah okay, though it works the same way as you got something when its tossed

[unkempt flower]

Difficulty 2 firstly. Second she's not E2

[stray dove]

let me show you something

[sick mason]

Oh fair I guess

[stray dove]

I'm replacing the Eastern coin

[split void]

D13. I thought I am losing. So many balls

[stray dove]

boom

the eastern coin gone

that means

it no longer does its effect

thats what replacing does

[faint rampart]

virtuosa pick wow

[unkempt flower]

And honestly after lvl 65 reward I'll go back into my territory (IS-3)

[stray dove]

wow you love Pompeii territory

[split void]

That was stupid pick from last voucher

[stray dove]

[split void]

She doesn't do shit there

[stray dove]

btw if you guys have questionable 6* operator picks, just tell them you got Godblessed

nice excuse

[faint rampart]

wtfrick

[stray dove]

just make sure there's no skins equipped

[split void]

I should have picked someone like CE

[faint rampart]

nuh uh you gotta let everyone know that you're still goober with recruitment 🥹

[fresh cloud]

Alright ty, so its only the rewards coins works differently right

[unkempt flower]

I'm just lazy making Haruka S2 M3. I'll just grab the stuff and it will do job for me (I already wasted mats on S3 M3)

[stray dove]

if it says you get something immediately, (ingots/hope/LP), yeah those are the only safe ones to remove

[faint rampart]

hopefully cube stall ended

[stray dove]

it also means

you can remove shitty effects immediately

by replacing them asap

[fresh cloud]

So other than rewards coins, there are no lingering effects once the coins gets replaced?

[split void]

Good Idea

[stray dove]

once this is over, I'm done with Hoshitter and Haruka M6

@main bison BTW what skill did you use on Haruka and Hoshitter for Yi stalling?

cause it was supposed to be Hoshitter S2 and Haruka S3

[bright otter]

you’re not done until matsukiri is also m6

[timber heart]

Can Ulpianus solo Yi at all! Or am I out of luck there

[stray dove]

don't?

truth be told does anyone here use Ulp post-Expansion IS5?

[timber heart]

I’m a newer player

[stray dove]

no i'm asking

but Ulp is really not too ideal for IS6

his subclass is slow attack so he suffers on talismans and his kit ain't helping too much on IS6 maps

[woeful anchor]

gvg uses ulp still

tho less usage

[stray dove]

outside GVG....

[bright otter]

he’s the best guard for a lot of people, especially for the leizi skippers

[woeful anchor]

sakiko is op in gvg

[woeful anchor]

if not gvg then hes niche pick with sp relics

[stray dove]

makes sense with Curio S3 spam

and good auto sp relics

[stray dove]

I'd sooner take Mlynar and let Defenders block for him

but that's my tastes in usefulness

[bright otter]

does ulpi s3 respawn orbs in ed3?

[orchid acorn]

omg

every single run

not a single defend ticket show up

😔

[heavy pumice]

thats the fun play IS

[orchid acorn]

also W work way better than exu

because of the damn rng

[faint rampart]

what rng

[orchid acorn]

chance of getting defender ticket

it's nonexistence for me

:3

I can't use my hoshi

[faint rampart]

no i mean w working better than exu cuz of rng?

[orchid acorn]

exu need set up and doesn't have aoe while w has

[faint rampart]

i see

[orchid acorn]

I just put w down and she clear everything for me

[bright otter]

@stray dove do you play casters in is6? whenever i get more than 2 vouchers i want to restart

[heavy pumice]

its happen all the time
me sometime got 6 consecutive def/sup voucher when play sniper medic

[uneven dew]

I'm just about to give up trying to beat garden

😭

[woeful anchor]

it should since its counted as rdp

unles he has special exception

(doubt)

[bright otter]

yeah i know monster does when uses s3, he should as well

[stray dove]

Click, Indigo, etc. no E2s. I'd rather not clog Conserved nor use Hope for them

at the very least

i have a solution for Feng Shui arts furniture

with E1 Click

[craggy shadow]

Declare my Foldartals

[timber heart]

Are there any easy Yi strats out there other than the Tragodia cat and gravel one? I always struggle to do fight

[stray dove]

Hoshitter S2 Haruka S3

permastall.

[orchid acorn]

Peak 😔

so much hope

still no defend ticket

[stray dove]

another is Trag cat + Raidian S1

^ this is more common for me to see here

or at least the most efficient one to do pre-Hoshi

[timber heart]

Is there a showcase of both of those? Or could we chat more about how to do it? I’m a noob player and not great at IS

[stray dove]

@nocturne cape help here?

do you have any screenshots or clips?

[nocturne cape]

no sry

[bright otter]

what do you have? i usually do exia shu and leizi and that’s enough for a fast kill

[timber heart]

Here are my main 12

[timber heart]

If I got a map of the Yi floor could u draw on it on where to place the Haruka and Hoshi please?

[bright otter]

it’s always the top tiles

[orchid acorn]

5 floor no defender ticket 🙏🥺

[gaunt bay]

whare are your modules...

[faint rampart]

castermiya user spotted

[bright otter]

why are you borrowing non m3 wis?

dont people use s2 over s3 in is?

[orchid acorn]

idk man

[crimson nest]

Depends

[crimson nest]

S2 way better with aspd

[timber heart]

I am a few months new 🙂 working on getting them up!

[orchid acorn]

dunno what to do here lol

[pastel saffron]

yeah just place hoshi in front of red box when exia starts shooting her, she will mark boss and lemuen kills him

[timber heart]

Is there any strat of using wis over ex or Lemuen? I feel like I can get best runs to get to Yi with Wis. Exusai feels worse to me at least with my playstyle! Both are great do not get me wrong

[bright otter]

borrow a m9 wis from someone else, should be easy to find

never borrow half build operators

[orchid acorn]

I'll do raidian trag stall :I

the last 3 hours were pure suffering

defender ticket doesn't exist

:3

[pastel saffron]

u can place wis near blue box to deal with enemies, lemuen can be there to deal wjth right + boss

can place exia there, exia will give bardier to hoshi and also dps the boss and mark it fkr lemuen to shoot

also place exia first, when boss comes out, and exia shoots, immediately place hoshi to keep him in red box, u pretty much won

use a healer, haruka works and she wont die, u can place haruka with exia

I am using raidian here but its the same thing as hoshi

trag doesn't matter even with raidian

yi should stay there when he is being blocked by hoshi, use lemon s3 when up

and wis s3 when up too, can manually stop it if no enemy and 1/2 bullet left so it can cycle

[bright otter]

sure, but again borrow one fully build, they’re quite common supports

[timber heart]

Ty this helps. It’s a lot of 6 stars so might take the right run. Will Exu not die to the ghost things?

[orchid acorn]

how does fully built trag looks like?

[pastel saffron]

she has barrier so atleast I havent had her die even at d10

but beyond that haruka will help ig

I actually havent done yi for quiye a bit

[pastel saffron]

u at most don't need that much, there was a run on yt with hoshi core and very less 6*, I'll send u that

just add ur own ops to it and u win

https://youtu.be/J__CGsYxDqA

[timber heart]

Please do, ty for being so kind!

[pastel saffron]

Everyone is kind in this channel dw

they all help

[faint rampart]

[pastel saffron]

actually if u highroll, u can also just dps the boss, I had a weird rub with -60% atk coin and I still melted the boss

[bright otter]

90 lvl, those 3 white dots means he’s m3 and also look the module is also lvl3

[orchid acorn]

I just got a trag with stage 1 mod and no 3 orbs

lv 90 tho

[pastel saffron]

-60% atk btw, d10 I think and boss got cooked

[orchid acorn]

wonder how do you stall the boss with trag and hoshi

put the cat next and go boom boom?

[pastel saffron]

wdym wonder, just put hoshi in front of red box, use cat for NI

win

[orchid acorn]

the only concern is the bomb

😔

[bright otter]

maybe because you need to add that person as friend, you could add me if you don’t have anyone on your list right now

[orchid acorn]

yeah sure

let me finish this stage

how good is trag fully built?

compare to no mastery

[pastel saffron]

I just look at this guy doing d15, je didnt even bring raidian s2, s1 is usless here, no real dps and he still winning

hoshi has no healer too lol, dw

[bright otter]

i also have raidian but i changed her for leizi because i thought most people would have her already built

[pastel saffron]

ur main thing is to proc NI in 1 cat, if u have atk buffs even e1 trag might be able to do it, need above avg roll tho

just have e2 and jt should be ok

[orchid acorn]

wth

I got lemon out of nowhere

btw Dante#0126 is my username

[gaunt bay]

generally you need someone to heal hoshi

typically its haruka

[pastel saffron]

yeah, he has cheeto so she is spamming S2

[bright otter]

request sent

[pastel saffron]

he does have a healer right

touch

[orchid acorn]

thanks ^^

[pastel saffron]

she even gives sp on heal

[errant siren]

[timber heart]

I know it’s not a hoshi run but I think my plan is hoshi E1 s2, Haruka E1 s2, and then Wis blow it up . Haruka red, hoshi blue, and Wis yellow. Then rest of troops into lane locking the bottom left there.

Is this a good plan?

[bright otter]

e2 them before would be a better plan

[gaunt bay]

its usually not enough

use haruka

[stray dove]

hmmmm....you sure?

[errant siren]

On second phase, Kamikaze will reach Wis.

And blowup her

[timber heart]

Ah dang it. That’s why u need the exusai and Lemuen huh. Gosh I just have so much trouble without Wis. that’s just a ton of 6 star luck ahh

[errant siren]

She can help with right side solo, tho.

Hoshi and strong on survivability medic should be enough.

[timber heart]

Hoshi will be good enough to live from Yi even when Haruka is down recharging?

[wary yacht]

Hoshi should be really hard to kill in IS6

[errant siren]

Mmm, depends. Her RES increase may save her for sure.

[wary yacht]

So maybe

Actually she can probably solo Yi with S2 given the right relics

[timber heart]

I guess I can just try Exu alter too to help shield until that. Hm okay, I’ve beaten Yi twice, I just wanna do it once more for E2 raidian and then never again lol

IS is not for me, I’d pay someone to do it at this point lol.

But I appreciate all the help!

[brittle grove]

Thats the point of rougelike surely, unlike certain IS

[bright otter]

that’s because you’re still new, once you have a lot of units built it gets really fun

[orchid acorn]

bruh

I just lost because of a stage

😭

rip my good run

[pastel saffron]

u dont need lemon if u have exia

infact u dont even need exia

u need wis for right, hoshi + haruka for boss

and that's pretty much solved

after u kill all enemies, start using wisadel on boss

umless ur at high diff, no one is leaking with wis being there

maybe I should do a run like this and use 3 op core

d10 should be ok

[sinful sparrow]

d15

do it

[pastel saffron]

can wis prevent all leak at d15?

or she needs help

I can add a blocker ig but the issue are those guys from dusk event that cant be blocked

actually for that lane exia is also an option

[timber heart]

Please do I would love to watch! Would be super helpful for me. Ty again. Would u mind if I tag u here or dm you if I have any more questions.

I would be fine with d10 personally as I’m only doing d2 but up to you!

[pastel saffron]

sure, but for IS6 specifically, Mika and Cube are far more knowledgeable than me

Infact I highly rcmd u read their guides in first pinned message, very helpful

[timber heart]

I believe I’ve read them already! Agreed super kind and helpful as well, sometimes I just have more direct questions for my circumstances 🙂 ty again and feel free to send me that run if u do it! Would love to see

[pastel saffron]

also keep investing to unlock shop rob

thats bound to make u rich right from start

[sinful sparrow]

idk i have only been doing ending 2

ending 1 is so fking boring

[pastel saffron]

same

my hoshi s2 is still not m3

I'll do d15 relicless yi later

need some hell

help

[errant siren]

[pastel saffron]

I think relicless can clear with exia + wis + hoshi + haruka only

maybe a vanguard

if I have ed3 relic tho it gets a bit more complicated

bro wtf

[orchid acorn]

how do you guys clear the fireball stage in is 6?

😔

[errant siren]

Easy, you just don't use melee on pass of fireballs and trigger chain death on flamethrowers.

[orchid acorn]

does the fireball dmg flamethrower?

[errant siren]

No.

[orchid acorn]

aw

[errant siren]

They ignore enemies completely.

[orchid acorn]

how can I trigger chain reaction?

[stray dove]

kill one

when near others

[crimson nest]

You kill off one of the flamethrower.

Theyll pop each other.

[errant siren]

Kill one, nearby flamethrowers will also gets instakilled.

[orchid acorn]

should I place hoshi at one of the entrance?

[errant siren]

At bottom lane is fine.

[tacit oyster]

I FUCKING HATE IZUMIK I DIDN'T GET A SINGLE VANGUARD VOUCHER THIS RUN OR DP RELICS AND I COULDN'T DEPLOY ANYTHING

[errant siren]

Good day to you sir too.

[tacit oyster]

Yeah IS3 is bullshit

[orchid acorn]

me when no defend vouncher

[stray dove]

Izumik is like...

a LOT of not doing much at the start

until you need to do Weedy pushes and other stalls

[tacit oyster]

couldn't deploy anything at all. Absolute aids. He gets 4 jellyfishes and shits out a blastwave on my team because I have the floor debuff that makes me have 70% less healing effectiveness

[stray dove]

to feed Izumik to phase 2

oh

you're doing normal Izumik killing

[tacit oyster]

but I didn't have enough lifepoints to leak because of the fucking water fire union node that shredded lp like a haemorrage

[nocturne cape]

rip streak

[stray dove]

this imo is the worst Call against Izumik/F6

[tacit oyster]

I couldn't feed him because I got stuck with a fucking no-dp run

[stray dove]

a run died because of that

[tacit oyster]

NO FUCKING VANGUARD VOUCHER

f

I only had confess 47 as a vanguard and kal as a medic

I couldn't feed him with the weedy strat like the vid showed

[orchid acorn]

How do you deal with this

nvm I got through it

somehow

[keen briar]

what are the hard battles' names in is6?

[sinful sparrow]

what happened

[keen briar]

i assume its the same as the other ises anyways, theres stages harder than others

[nocturne cape]

Ballsack, +4 dp, on F5 i had 3 tosses, didnt roll any of my damage tongbaos

[sinful sparrow]

:shu_dizzy:

[nocturne cape]

I had upgraded movemounthard and +80aspd coin

[errant siren]

Seen no one, honestly.
Maybe with hitcount enemies are the one which could kill you on the spot.

[sinful sparrow]

happens

[errant siren]

[keen briar]

and which are those?

[nocturne cape]

Yeah

Rose was watching my stream

Entel S3 did 0 damage

The entire cycle

So i just quit

[gaunt bay]

hi cube

[sinful sparrow]

💀

[gaunt bay]

:ya:

[sinful sparrow]

jesus christ