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sick mason
woeful anchor
stun the mantas
stray dove
stun the mantas
hope econ is rough. At least there are easier options of Saccing Mon3tr but that's too limiting and redep isn't fast enough
so it all boils down to the cheaper options of Krooster
and/or Cliffy
or pray to RNGesus for Wis's S3 stuns them through splash via talent
carmine token
is3 exist
sonic sable
Can't do that if u lowroll. Could time out
sinful sparrow
idk man, you arent timing out on an average run
sonic sable
What sucks is hoshi does nothing in that fight
stray dove
one run i timed out Sui foot
it was interesting seeing a slow stomp towards the blue box
and then dying
prime mountain
What sucks is hoshi does nothing in that fight
S3 and tank all the foot damage for some allied units
!
stray dove
so yeah you can have a run just have shit DPS
stray dove
S3 and tank all the foot damage for some allied units
I can imagine they're letting Hoshitter get stomped
sonic sable
S3 and tank all the foot damage for some allied units
True
I just did not account for ballsack
sinful sparrow
source: my dumb ass
i timed out on a highroll oncr
exu had enough damage to 1 cycle half hp
stray dove
how?
sinful sparrow
my dumbass blundered a lot because i was sick and plsying on phone
sinful sparrow
raidian ban means you cant speed up feet as well
stray dove
i can only play on PC
sonic sable
No pc
stray dove
my phone has some shitty finger tracking
so yeah
detrimental to playing on phone
at best phone is only for auto and base visits
prime mountain
Play IS on phone > Mobile connection decides to switch networks at the worst moment > run over
real mango
sick mason
Law and order or martial fight coin
gaunt bay
Play IS on phone > Mobile connection decides to switch networks at the worst mom...
Play IS on computer > Emulator Crash > run over
there is no escape, you are Trapped in the White Walls
carmine token
Play IS on computer > Emulator Crash > run over
emu freeze
emu froze on cresson boss fight
sick mason
My experience when played Arknights in LDplayer
carmine token
we need client gng
sick mason
But now I switched to MuMuPlayer and no problems so far (yet)
carmine token
sick mason
Thanks Supah for letting me know about this emulator
faint rampart
uh whats the prio for spec recruitment now with the addition of swirealt?
exu>yato>mizuki>swire?
stray dove
uh whats the prio for spec recruitment now with the addition of swirealt?
exu>y...
it really depends on how you want the squad to go with. Like I wouldn't mind runs that's Ya2-less or Mizuki-less
carmine token
same with ld, but its just pmoed me
prime mountain
🥀
stray dove
the most common moment I MIGHT get her
is the moment she enters Kernel
for now
I'm praying she spooks
faint rampart
it really depends on how you want the squad to go with. Like I wouldn't mind run...
wha ambusher/executor less runs 
sick mason
I got spooked by Thorns2
prime mountain
wha ambusher/executor less runs <:ExuHyperStare:642142033405804574>
executors arent really needed in is6, outside of waiifu/gravel for ed2
stray dove
wha ambusher/executor less runs <:ExuHyperStare:642142033405804574>
i don't ban Raidian
she might as well act like an FRD army
while solving hitcount
faint rampart
executors arent really needed in is6, outside of waiifu/gravel for ed2
so yato goes into fraud tier
stray dove
it depends. She ain't exactly gonna be a huge carry in IS6 routes
it's just that she's solid and regretless to pick
prime mountain
She's definitely useful in some bosky stages altough hoshi alt
kinda broken in bosky
prime mountain
Why does her s3 hit air 
carmine token
Why does her s3 hit air <:ICANT:1163741420755091486>
they just made it 
stray dove
same way Wis S3 hits air
faint rampart
whoever started the trend of defenders being able to dps get yourself filled with cucumbers :reallyMad:
prime mountain
whoever started the trend of defenders being able to dps get yourself filled wit...
Hey she also has ungodly amounts of res
basically invincible to arts damage
stray dove
tenacity giving her absurd RES
so she ain't gonna budge much below 30% green HP against arts
including the 200% red HP
faint rampart
Hey she also has ungodly amounts of res
that should've been where it stops
faint rampart
stray dove
i mean thats why i just like Shu. but i guess it is pretty hope intensive to have both Shu and Hoshitter
but i want dat Grass on her
carmine token
65 res is actually crazy like damn
65
stray dove
to make red HP easier to recover from
gaunt bay
How about self sustain?
hi furrilo
stray dove
module 3 proccing dat good shit in 50% green HP instead
stray dove
prime mountain
how were your pulls
70 for both 
gaunt bay
waow
carmine token
70 for both <:YA:1409699530001092740>
i got 2 harukas in 40 
gleaming vine
Yall what’s the best go to operator for IS6?
prime mountain
Raidian
stray dove
Raidian...
gleaming vine
That’s not radian
prime mountain
Huh prob exu alt
stray dove
....Geexu?
languid patio
I was wondering
if this is the situation what is your pick
stray dove
just cause starter....well, she's the best E1
faint rampart
lemon
stray dove
don't ask
languid patio
what else you got
the 6 stars?
carmine token
I was wondering
if this is the situation what is your pick
lemon
gaunt bay
the 6 stars?
yeah
prime mountain
Holy trade nodes
stray dove
you got the rare variation
of having more than 2 shops and went the distance
unfortunate that your LP is that low tho
prime mountain
Dude its f2, nobody getting more than that on f2 without some luccsacc
languid patio
yeah
vanguard: almost every 6 stars you can name, I have them almost all
Snipers: wis'adel? typhoon? ch'en alter? pozy? schwarz? exu OG? Ash? Lemon?
Medics: reelter? amiyi? eyjalter?
caster: logos? lappdumbter? blazalter? gg? eyja og? ifrit?
basically, I have raised so many 6 stars that I lost track on whose who
carmine token
nara is good
gaunt bay
medics wise kal is good
languid patio
medics wise kal is good
I also have kal
remote badger
basically u can dip casters away
gaunt bay
nymph or logos from caster, lappland sucks
languid patio
all map silence sucks?
prime mountain
Nymph with mod is pretty good damage now, I kinda like her
remote badger
they're basically ass in IS
prime mountain
all map silence sucks?
I cant name a single use for silence in is6
carmine token
casters not named logos or nypmh sucks
languid patio
ok
sick mason
5* medics just won't cut it except for Rose Salt
gaunt bay
even logos and nymph are
carmine token
Nymph with mod is pretty good damage now, I kinda like her
its fixed her trait
gaunt bay
giga questionable
stray dove
casters not named logos or nypmh sucks
The time of Ceobe being the Khagan solution is over
languid patio
5* medics just won't cut it except for Rose Salt
what the...
sick mason
Or perhaps just Mulberry since she's a Yan operator
languid patio
hmmmm..... must it be yan?
prime mountain
what the...
ed2 solve
languid patio
I wanna use my 6 stars, not 5
carmine token
what the...
rose salt cuz her s2
carmine token
hmmmm..... must it be yan?
for bosky gates
remote badger
I wanna use my 6 stars, not 5
they're expensive (hope wise)
gaunt bay
Rose salt good
stray dove
can't wait for Rose Salt skin
gaunt bay
From 6* kal is acceptable
remote badger
the hope econ is always ass
gaunt bay
But not amazing
carmine token
true
stray dove
IS6 has a better hope econ just cause of abusing conserved vouchers (-2 hope discounts)
and 4* being free
carmine token
i just save my voacher n hope until f3
languid patio
gaunt bay
Er
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languid patio
there my rose salt
languid patio
IS6 has a better hope econ just cause of abusing conserved vouchers (-2 hope dis...
I always conserve so I can bring 6 stars first and foremost
carmine token
and not a lot of E2s
no e2
languid patio
a lot of E1'd medics
4-5 stars = you gonna queue yourself until I E2 every single 6 stars
stray dove
try it like me
you leave ops at e0 lvl 1
until you're ready for them to e2 40 SL7
no inbetweens
languid patio
I mean I will use a 6 star asap so... that is not on my book
stray dove
at least there's no weird "middle ground used resources but still not worth using"
stray dove
I mean I will use a 6 star asap so... that is not on my book
use every 6* i raised is not a thing for IS unfortunately
thats why lower rarities have value in IS
carmine token
cuz 0 hope
stray dove
cuz hope econ
carmine token
econ kinda dookie
stray dove
it's decent way to apply starting power limitations in a roguelite
hell...raising every operator is something that just naturally occured to me because i want them all IS-ready if i ever felt like it
languid patio
use every 6* i raised is not a thing for IS unfortunately
So I am forced to raise some 5 stars that everyone knew I won't use unless the situation demands for their presence?
stray dove
no?
carmine token
The non E2'd 6 stars + the E2'd 5 stars
fartooth aint it for is
stray dove
just raise who you think is or will be useful
but the amt of ops you just poured EXP in
and then stopped
just feels like wasting resources
carmine token
So I am forced to raise some 5 stars that everyone knew I won't use unless the s...
no, most 5star aint good for is cuz they cost more hope then 4 star to do kinda the same shi
stray dove
unless they're like extra special for some strats or just general value
languid patio
fartooth aint it for is <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
yeah
stray dove
this IS's flavor for 5* right now goes to Rose Salt for Ed2, Waai for Ed2, maybe Sham for Ed2, or Surfer....just in IS general
carmine token
unless they're like extra special for some strats or just general value
like tin man was useful for toll
stray dove
.....if you had spec vouchers to burn
languid patio
The non E2'd 6 stars + the E2'd 5 stars
You can guess that the ones I don't list are either unowned or E2'd already
stray dove
which was pretty valuable even back then
carmine token
.....if you had spec vouchers to burn
i used them cuz i had no good specs back then
languid patio
hmmmm
languid patio
.....if you had spec vouchers to burn
spec vouchers? as in specialist?
Got it just now and use it on "bosky" to candle light geexu
My usual go to is to make sure my geexu and/or raidian able to enter the bosky
west urchin
west urchin
Did bro really just deploy in mid
where was i supposed to place
prime mountain
Up top?
trag s2 summon doesnt care about the visibility
Just spam it all over the place
west urchin
slate hull
3 fences to the left and 3 ranged tiles to the right
west urchin
i didnt see it
west urchin
it was blending with the hue i thought it was a background
prime mountain
Learning experience!
stray dove
well
if a map template is pretty "confusing"
i tend to just
drag out a ground or ranged ops
and see which tiles are green
simple as that
languid patio
I don't have both tragodia/phantom alter and geexu/exu alter
(I must borrow BOTH)
so if I have to choose one, who?
prime mountain
I don't have both tragodia/phantom alter and geexu/exu alter
(I must borrow BOTH...
Exu alt start is way better than trag start
stray dove
languid patio
Exu alt start is way better than trag start
ok
prime mountain
Trag is a "get geist rope and win" unit
languid patio
Is Haruka useful in this IS?
stray dove
Trag is a "get geist rope and win" unit
but what if Ed2/Ed3?
faint rampart
west urchin
what would this be
faint rampart
ed2 balls...?
prime mountain
Erh ed3 sorry
stray dove
Sword Glaive
languid patio
Arguably best healer
holy sh
stray dove
normal map of an F3 boss
languid patio
so in the middle of my hoshi2 hunt, I get the best healer?
prime mountain
Yeah
stray dove
their banner's great
both are great
yeah banners where both 6* are amazing are rare
stray dove
Lemon....mixed feelings
faint rampart
why
stray dove
not enough for me to even continue pulling in that banner
prime mountain
She's not bad but suffers from sniper that does damage syndrome
We have a million of those
stray dove
as for banners older than Wis Logos, I can only remember Kal Skalter
what else would be dual 6* banners where both are used a lot back then
faint rampart
true but more dmg always nice help taught me
and idk if typhon/ray can be in competition
prime mountain
Who was W banner with again? weedy or ros I forgot
slate hull
pretty sure Shu and Zuo were released together
faint rampart
tex penance
prime mountain
Yeah had to be weedy cause ros is also limited right
stray dove
Zuo is.....depends on the person
and Penance is solid but....def rec was slowing down a lot by that point
stray dove
Yeah had to be weedy cause ros is also limited right
Ros Mudrock but Ros didn't get popular use
steel relic
Ros was Mudrock
prime mountain
Ros was used in some CC bro 
faint rampart
stray dove
stray dove
Ros was used in some CC bro <:Originium:1190002042454949938>
man, if only someone told me where and how back then.
stray dove
heh
Cangtong's best thing is all about dat stun ngl
the damage barely matters when diff is high enough
its like what if WE are Cannot
here's your debuff!
prime mountain
Ok but then you combine with dot on stun relics
and now you counter furniture!
There is no way I got another 2+3 run with double bosky into pathfinder
Is this the one
faint rampart
you have haru and hoshi surely it is :clueless:
prime mountain
Dont quite have a decent ed2 solve yet though, need to get that
gaunt bay
There is no way I got another 2+3 run with double bosky into pathfinder
Well well well
slate hull
2 birds in the first combat, what a run
if it continues rolling like that this might go insane
faint rampart
*dies at shoprob
astral sentinel
She would get debuffed before shooting anything
My spot allowed to shred 1st phase and some without debuff
slate hull
exu's splash just woke up a mimic, rip money
a talisman floated to a tile next to the mimic and then the splash happened
potent gulch
prime mountain
Just need to not fuck up
FINNALY
faint rampart
faint rampart
they say ed3 is ez
although your team does look unique
idk how you're gonna manage
prime mountain
I drafted on f6, had saved vouchers
jade veldt
I wish the game mechanics were explained a little better ingame man
"when you place an operator in this tile you gain [buff name]" what does [buff name] do? I needed to know before the ghosts started blowing up my whole board
prime mountain
The ying and yang thing? they were explained in the event it comes from
jade veldt
sucks to be a new guy then I guess
really would like raidian e2 but this mode is just unsolvable to me
proven dagger
i only draft the best operators
prime mountain
Why is this 50/50 schizo
faint rampart
really would like raidian e2 but this mode is just unsolvable to me
there's guide in pins which could help
jade veldt
speaking of, real quick is the expected level for a first clear of this mode really high? most of my operators are only like e1lvl50ish
prime mountain
speaking of, real quick is the expected level for a first clear of this mode rea...
IS is balanced around e2 max units
of all rarities
stray dove
isn't the issue with that Hand
that it gets worse the smaller the HP becomes?
cause it's entirely % based through and through?
and not a capped max HP% per hit
prime mountain
Yeah but its still good damage
prime mountain
Well ange has good damage regardless
stray dove
especially if you get some good levitation relics
prime mountain
Haruka also has levitate, crazy
stray dove
yeah but that does mean using S3
it's a really good stall though against any boss that can attack her healing target
stray dove
tch....gonna wait for you to either spook or i'll get her once she's in Kernel
i'll keep faith that they spook before they hit Kernel
proven dagger
oh shit
i wanna grab her
but ave mujica...
i can't believe I've been playing this game long enough to see Swire alt in shop
i remember when I was waiting for KAL
like it was yesterday
faint rampart
<:YA:1409699530001092740> ed2 + 3 raidian/wis/exu ban
You finally did it
24 relics
jagged heath
agile hill
also all of you got the 2 new 6 star?
agile hill
waste of potential benefit of free pull
faint rampart
waiting for account owner to pull hoshi
stray dove
waste of potential benefit of free pull
i do not try to thread that needle
same way i don't do multiple single pulls for "value"
hell, i don't mind some good pots
hell....i prefer if i get some new operator spooking those free pulls
I've skipped so many banners from Wis to Geexu, Trag, Hoshitter
so i wouldn't mind new ops spook
proven dagger
note to self draft stainless or a vanguard
@cold fjord @halcyon flame the Red technology unironically works
muted tundra
I may go 200 to spark chalter + try for hoshi p5
but
idk if it's pointless
hard to tell on paper
stray dove
pots these days ain't reaching Bagpipe's P5 value
they're bonuses through and through
not must haves
muted tundra
yea if I kept rolling it would be like 60% to spark chalter, 30% to try for lucky eyja/pepe, 10% to get hoshi p5
gavial and hoshi are my only summers rn
sonic sable
Mizuki prerty broken in ed2
slate hull
just got hit with emergency mangshan records after getting the ink, I was ready for any other emergency stage, but not this
sonic sable
Had ballsack plus deployed with talisman so ange did not do much
muted tundra
just got hit with emergency mangshan records after getting the ink, I was ready ...
oh god yea I don't know where/how to cope foot there @.@
I lost a run to a bad foot bait there
because I had icky DP
slate hull
I thought it would be the emergency dusk stage or something and then I'd kill the foot on the other combat stages on that path
sonic sable
Shu hr good
stray dove
Mangshan is the fight i fear in IS6 the most
muted tundra
ye
sonic sable
I try to avoid f5 em
stray dove
some are fine depending on your squad
muted tundra
Shu hr good
it feels better (?) usually than baro2
with the exception of sui steppies spiraling out of control if you're bad like me no good plan
stray dove
but Mangshan....even with the best squad feels formidable
muted tundra
or maybe I'm marginally better now than when facing baro2 two years ago
slate hull
I had a good squad going, it was mainly just the sp hour making things difficult. I went with the path that had the most combat nodes even if it meant ending up on an emergency one
if they at least let you kill the statuegeists the stage would instantly become way more manageable
stray dove
i mean thats the point
languid vault
What do I choose here, and whats safe and house
carmine token
just got hit with emergency mangshan records after getting the ink, I was ready ...
i cant wait the climb the diff ladder in is6.
Em mangshan record on f5
slate hull
What do I choose here, and whats safe and house
safe house gives you random options, I think it is gain 3 max life points, use a conserved voucher to light a candle, squad size +1 and sometimes I think you can get an elite voucher from this
wet zealot
What do they mean by "promoted by combat" ?
carmine token
or lei fa coin
stray dove
or survivor of lightning zaps in LeiFa coin
wet zealot
So isn't this just broken ?
stray dove
no
carmine token
'no
stray dove
cause it's difficult
prime mountain
You can only candleguest 2 units in a fight and you need to actually survive it
stray dove
StirFry and Drums are easier to stack
prime mountain
Its high risk high reward
sonic sable
Can i start with raidian for every squad?
prime mountain
Pretty much
carmine token
Can i start with raidian for every squad?
ye
stray dove
You can only candleguest 2 units in a fight and you need to actually survive it
and 2 at a fight iirc only applies to F4 onwards?
i've never tried Pathfinder fight in F3
sonic sable
I am scared of gyard vg cuz no ente
stray dove
just brute force it to still using other classes
prime mountain
I am scared of gyard vg cuz no ente
G/Vg you start with ente and raidian then gets leizi e2 on pathfind
If you borrow they dont start pre e2
wet zealot
Oh wait by pathfinder you meant the battle option, not the conserved voucher one 
prime mountain
Oh wait by pathfinder you meant the battle option, not the conserved voucher one...
yeah that
carmine token
Oh wait by pathfinder you meant the battle option, not the conserved voucher one...
ya
wet zealot
I've never tried the fight, what do you even do it for ?
sonic sable
Hmm true but ente friend is rare
carmine token
I've never tried the fight, what do you even do it for ?
light candle
prime mountain
I've never tried the fight, what do you even do it for ?
It candles 1/2 units depending on floor and its a regular fight so you get exp and stuff
stray dove
you literally do not use it unless for Bells stacking
it's also a timeout battle
the operators in the flower tile needs to be alive
prime mountain
you literally do not use it unless for Bells stacking
Eh sometimes worth on f6
stray dove
when time runs out
prime mountain
sometimes
sonic sable
G/Vg you start with ente and raidian then gets leizi e2 on pathfind
U have hope for two 6 stars?
prime mountain
U have hope for two 6 stars?
If you do kettle start yeah
sonic sable
Hmmm
prime mountain
7 hope default, -2 from squad so 5 hope, raidian is 3 so 8 hope total
sonic sable
prime mountain
quick mafs
carmine token
7 hope default, -2 from squad so 5 hope, raidian is 3 so 8 hope total
7, since when is it tree boost or smth
carmine token
cuz all other ises u get 6 strt
sonic sable
We dont have 2 hope start in is6 right?
carmine token
We dont have 2 hope start in is6 right?
ye
stray dove
i mean
carmine token
sadge
prime mountain
Kettle is basically old +2
stray dove
for a +2
carmine token
ayaya
faint rampart
oh btw Mr furrilo
how essential was hoshi2 for the ed2 fight or she felt replaceable
prime mountain
Very essential because I had negative dps
Needed the help from s3
(I had -30% res book in supporter range so I dropped trag and deepcolor to debuff for more dps)
faint rampart
stray dove
wait wait wait
that book's effect stacks?
when there's multiple supp looking at the same enemy?
prime mountain
No I just meant like
Couldnt keep them alive
so I would rotate
Cause I couldnt put 2 units close to each other otherwise feet would change targeting prio
green sable
I’ve been hitting that IS#3 D16 and I don’t understand how this item works. I did a run and I got wrecked because a rejection ‘spread’(?) to other ops during a stage. I still don’t understand if “nearby” means in the stage on deployment or what
prime mountain
I’ve been hitting that IS#3 D16 and I don’t understand how this item works. I di...
Nearby is on a tile adjacent to the unit when you deploy them
green sable
So it’s only on deployment? Adjacent 4 tiles or 8 tiles btw
errant siren
I’ve been hitting that IS#3 D16 and I don’t understand how this item works. I di...
Within 8 tiles around SICK operator
Deploy two of them to cure this sick (Rejection will transfer to this two)
You can do it immediately, or one by one
Cured operator will negate Rejection effect completely and instead gets buffed
It works only until battle ends, you have to repeat that next battle
green sable
So if I don’t deploy the operator with a rejection within 8 tiles of any other ops it doesn’t spread
That’s good
prime mountain
The strat is to bring robots or something you can just drop early and cheap to remove the debuff and have your main op get buffed
errant siren
And buff is 35% Sanctuary, attacks ignores target's 35% DEF and RES.
Making them strong to deal enough damage.
prime mountain
Keep in mind you can also remove the debuff from 2 units at once
Like you do 2/2
2 debuffed 2 non
polar flint
whats the highest possible difficulty for is3?
prime mountain
18
errant siren
whats the highest possible difficulty for is3?
18
green sable
Keep in mind you can also remove the debuff from 2 units at once
Oh, that’s nice tech
polar flint
yeah no im not clearing izumik on d18
polar flint
d12 drained me completely already
green sable
Simply get -50% redeployment time relic and trag s2
I think that’s only for operators?
Or am I mistaken
polar flint
Simply get -50% redeployment time relic and trag s2
still needs to do the skill cancel on second phase
prime mountain
I think that’s only for operators?
Oh actually idk
I may be spreading misinfo again 🤫
polar flint
also im pretty sure trag s2 cant kill the jellyfishes in less than 2 deploys
green sable
I’ve done quite a few runs with Tragodia and I don’t think his cat got the reduction
prime mountain
also im pretty sure trag s2 cant kill the jellyfishes in less than 2 deploys
No but you can group them together and them just aoe spam
polar flint
i dont have lemuen and walter damage is a bit inconsistent at high difficulties
cooked deepfried
prime mountain
If you're struggling with walter damage then huh, you arent getting enough relics
polar flint
yeah its not easy to get the correct relics every time
woeful knot
ela mines + wis should clear in ur average runs
you dont need massive highrolls to win
just gotta put in more thought on how to do it
try using more cc as well, mint is goated
polar flint
i mean rn the part im struggling in isnt even phase 1
prime mountain
Mint draft not being crazy because casters are useless anyway
polar flint
i can just do fast feed then hole strat
but second phase the global stuns are just impossible to tank and im also having trouble cancelling it with correct timing
woeful knot
acid cancel is an advance tech and completely optional for the single push strat
prime mountain
Yeah you can just use ange and single push no?
polar flint
you can push izumik himself?
green sable
https://youtu.be/GNe4xoekXaA
Does anyone know if this still works?
woeful knot
patched
prime mountain
oh angelina... don't have her as well
You can either try to get the +shift relic or use ho'ol as cope
Doing shift without these 2 things isnt possible
green sable
Anyway, thank you @prime mountain and @errant siren for explaining the fosterer genotype
polar flint
man
prime mountain
Np, my next advice is stop playing is3 cause its balls 😭 go play is4 or is6 they're better
woeful knot
https://is-central.github.io/is3-mizuki/slaying-the-ocean/ give this a read
woeful knot
Np, my next advice is stop playing is3 cause its balls 😭 go play is4 or is6 the...
false
polar flint
i read this
green sable
Np, my next advice is stop playing is3 cause its balls 😭 go play is4 or is6 the...
Too true… I’m past lv100 on the reward track so I can stop playing it soon (I hope)
woeful knot
what strat are u attempting
narrow cosmos
Wish me luck for Left Leg of Exodia Sui
prime mountain
Wish me luck for Left Leg of ~~Exodia~~ Sui
Erh how many life points
Im ngl the best strat really is just -17
narrow cosmos
Erh how many life points
Over 30
prime mountain
Yeah just
ignore it
And ulpi on s3 btw so you can do some foot bait shenanigans
narrow cosmos
Well 20 LP 12 shield
prime mountain
And raidian s2
woeful knot
holy this IS is slop
narrow cosmos
And ulpi on s3 btw so you can do some foot bait shenanigans
Summon cooldown on Raidian and Ling are nonexistent so I can spam bait
prime mountain
Summon cooldown on Raidian and Ling are nonexistent so I can spam bait
Yes thats why you do raidian s2
XD
you're on s3 rn
woeful knot
why is going -17 the most consistent strat that u came up with
narrow cosmos
Oh shit right yes
prime mountain
why is going -17 the most consistent strat that u came up with
I mean in context of ed2+3 cause of hp bleed
narrow cosmos
why is going -17 the most consistent strat that u came up with
Because the axe dudes are a menace
prime mountain
you cant solo left side
Hitcount enemies are balls
You have to somehow manage the foot at the same time
polar flint
what strat are u attempting
ive been trying double push and tanking acid
narrow cosmos
You get 1 singular ranged tile.
remote badger
Cant be possible
its like finding a fucking small needle inside a fuckton amounts of haybales
woeful knot
actual slop is
woeful knot
ive been trying double push and tanking acid
double push is pretty consistent
weedy hool + sp
should work wonders
polar flint
i keep messing the hitscan weedy projectile up
woeful knot
just keep spamming pause and when you see the cannon proj hit retreat weedy
could be quite precise yeah
polar flint
not when the weedy projectile hits izumik?
woeful knot
u usually put the cannon above weedy
polar flint
lmao yea
raw hemlock
So I have good-ish news... I got the mats to set up m1 training for leizi2's s2 and her module.... need more mats to upgrade it though
Which of her skills do I use for sword, glaive, spear? I forgot
remote badger
2
hoary ingot
is there any way to remove rejections in is3?
carmine token
is there any way to remove rejections in is3?
there is a way
but its rare to find it
hoary ingot
but its rare to find it
what is it
carmine token
what is it
i think u get to way to remove with commision, but im not so sure cuz i dont play is3
there is a encounter that can remove one
main roost
is there any way to remove rejections in is3?
Just play at D16+
robust grail
i think u get to way to remove with commision, but im not so sure cuz i dont pla...
if you don't play is3, don't answer
errant siren
what is it
- Scout, moveover of E2 Promote, removes Rejection immediately from this returned operator. Most often possible option to remove.
- Some Encounters MAY provide Rejection Remover relic (2 of them: Dario's Lattern on -3 BaseHP, and Balsam on -30 Light).
- Regional Contract on completing Hardest difficulty task, may provide Rejection Removal relic as reward (Tilup's Formula).
Take one out of three.
Remove only ONE selected Operator.
And this Rejection may apply on same operator one more time.
Literally after you removed this.
hoary ingot
1. Scout, moveover of E2 Promote, removes Rejection immediately from this return...
i have hoshi alt on rejection and she got it literally as i promoted her
-50% to everything
errant siren
i have hoshi alt on rejection and she got it literally as i promoted her
-50% to...
Well
Welcome to IS3
Aka
RNG will 24/7 gangbang you to death whatever you like it or not
arctic panther
raw hemlock
So I have good-ish news... I got the mats to set up m1 training for leizi2's s2 ...
Yeah, I'm not doing more IS runs on my double-shift workdays....
inland elbow
is there any way to remove rejections in is3?
Aside from scout, commisions and rare encounters not really
Usually if you get a rejection you just assume it sticks
So draft accordingly
green sable
https://is-central.github.io/is3-mizuki/slaying-the-ocean/ give this a read
I just pored over this for the last hour and hoh lee
I can’t imagine how wrinkly the brains are of the people who invented these strategies
Couldn’t be me 
carmine token
inland elbow
I just pored over this for the last hour and hoh lee
We're still discovering new stuff and strats now
The boss is peak
green sable
Thank you for your service 
inland elbow
i have hoshi alt on rejection and she got it literally as i promoted her
-50% to...
In general with rejections, you want to draft ops who are really resistant to them
So someone who is a giant wall of stats like hoshi suffers a lot
But someone like kaltsit does not care at all
Or ela is strong regardless of metastatic because a lot of her utility comes from mines
Texas alter is buffed under meta but is bad with any other rejection
Yato alt is bad under meta but great with any other one
Stuff like that
paper kayak
problem you get into is that there aren't that many operators you can draft that actually work like that
so depending on your account it can just devolve into sheer rng very quickly (which is true of every IS to an extent but yeah)
inland elbow
It depends on the state of your account yeah
Is3 really wants you to have a really well build account with some pretty niche ops
paper kayak
like in kal's case I don't think there is literally any other operator that works like she does with the full independent summon that isnt dogshit in IS
inland elbow
So if you have one like that and know how to play, is3 is a ton of fun
paper kayak
like eblana exists but eblana in IS3
inland elbow
But if you only have like 2 6*, it's gonna be miserable
paper kayak
even if you have a lot its like
angelina is kernal
weedy is also kernal I think
anything kernal if you're a new player is just like, unobtanium unless you're very lucky or you VERY slowly acquire over years
weedy at least I think is a guarenteed tag in recruitment iirc
nocturne cape
Is3 really wants you to have a really well build account with some pretty niche ...
aside from the common IS ops, what else?
inland elbow
At the time or now
nocturne cape
now
inland elbow
Stuff like mr nothing, mag, cement, stainless, gnosis, lee
nocturne cape
interesting
inland elbow
No one bothered to build but all have niches back then
Now it's a lot more niche
It's just stuff that solves endings
nocturne cape
ic
inland elbow
Like weedy, mint, wildmane, mostima, harmonie
paper kayak
mr nothing still has a niche today outside of IS because of base but the rest yeah
inland elbow
Nymph from what I can tell is relatively unpopular
So her too
Cliffheart
Lee is still good too
Magallan
paper kayak
my understanding is that most vets have cliffheart because she was free at one point?
but I never got her
inland elbow
Yeah
inland elbow
Yeah 10 hope is stinky
winged tapir
For is6, canta and surfer best skill is 1 or 2? And mod wise mod 1 or mod3?
nocturne cape
S1
for mod ofc they benefit from having mod3
id be lying if i tell you mod1 is better
carmine token
Stuff like mr nothing, mag, cement, stainless, gnosis, lee
cement???
carmine token
Like weedy, mint, wildmane, mostima, harmonie
harmonie?
winged tapir
id be lying if i tell you mod1 is better
so mod1 or mod3 lol
slate hull
you need at least mod 2 because that is what gives the aspd buff, then it is up to you if you want to use resources on the upgraded version in mod 3
also consider if you even get your agents to e2 when playing IS because I often don't
winged tapir
also consider if you even get your agents to e2 when playing IS because I often ...
Hmm good point
slate hull
on d15 you only get to conserve 4 vouchers unless you are running a specific squad and spending that space on a vanguard voucher is rough
you might as well get the mod, it is nice for general content, but I wouldn't count on it to carry in IS
prime mountain
Oh yeah, toughts on drafting 2 e1 agents vs 1 e2?
sonic sable
For which is?
prime mountain
Mostly is6, I know in is5 it was better to just get 2 e1 agents first cause you just run s1 with giga aspd so it dont matter
muted skiff
slate hull
I find it kind of similar here, a lot of aspd buffs that work well with s1 and if you are running ed2 then why not have an extra boss bait
sonic sable
Talon run?
carmine token
70 relics and somehow worse damage than f3 lamp <:ICANT:1163741420755091486>
lamp is that broken
skillfully get rhoder gate
carmine token
Knight solve with stainless
definally a solution of all time
winged tapir
I don't really understand how this coin works
muted skiff
first toss 80 then 60 then 40 then 20 then useless
winged tapir
So each time I get it?
wet zealot
If I want to kill IS6 ed1 with raidian summons, should I use S1 or S2 ?
nocturne cape
S2
winged tapir
I still don't really understand the whole tossing thing, so out of these do I only have the highlighted one as active?
wet zealot
How do you damage this thing ?
winged tapir
And this one says +4 when tossed, when does the 'toss' happen?
winged tapir
And this one says +4 when tossed, when does the 'toss' happen?
Since it says 'tossed' this means that the coin is useless now right?
winged tapir
on every floor, you toss 3 coins from your coffer
At the start or end of floor?
prime mountain
Since it says 'tossed' this means that the coin is useless now right?
Yep, you got the 4 ingots and its useless now
winged tapir
Yep, you got the 4 ingots and its useless now
Will it give another 4 if I toss it in another floor?
nocturne cape
wonderland counts as a new floor for this purpose
winged tapir
there's an animation for it
Ahh ok that's the tossing one
prime mountain
Will it give another 4 if I toss it in another floor?
No it becomes nothing
You will see it become a dayan tongbao which has no effect
nocturne cape
holy pathing
carmine token
At the start or end of floor?
start
carmine token
Will it give another 4 if I toss it in another floor?
no
winged tapir
Wait, aren't I supposed to be able to use the saved vouchers to assign candlebearers before entering?
nocturne cape
uhh
carmine token
Wait, aren't I supposed to be able to use the saved vouchers to assign candlebea...
u can use one if u have any
nocturne cape
thats the second option and you have to use a candle for it
you probably picked the first option
prime mountain
This looks like f1, you dont get the option for it on f1
carmine token
oh ye
winged tapir
This looks like f1, you dont get the option for it on f1
Oh.. I should have picked hope instead?
winged tapir
Ohhh I see
carmine token
nocturne cape
wdym
carmine token
the -30%hp coin
nocturne cape
what about it
carmine token
idk man, saying they gonna turn into it
slate hull
wait, coins turn into other coins? how have I never heard anything about that yet
nocturne cape
idk man, saying they gonna turn into it <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997>
thats impossible
both of these are 12 ingots in value
carmine token
idk how coinamics works
prime mountain
wait, coins turn into other coins? how have I never heard anything about that ye...
Plan node in bosky
carmine token
wait, coins turn into other coins? how have I never heard anything about that ye...
with a special node ye
prime mountain
Its the same as lost and found relic trading, they turn into same rarity
winged tapir
Is it generally better to go for wonderland everytime?
nocturne cape
Its the same as lost and found relic trading, they turn into same rarity
they have a very high chance of turning into the same rarity
prime mountain
they have a very high chance of turning into the same rarity
Oh its not guaranteed?
carmine token
Is it generally better to go for wonderland everytime?
on later floors ye
nocturne cape
coins can upgrade or downgrade
slate hull
oh, plan, I thought there was some other mechanic I never heard about
prime mountain
mhmmmm good to know
nocturne cape
for example, 8 ingot valued coin can turn into sand shield and be upgraded
12 ingot coin can also downgrade via sinisterstealth
slate hull
there was some complicated chart in Chinese I remember seeing that had a bunch of coins and arrows
nocturne cape
yeah basically that
slate hull
yeah, that one
nocturne cape
i have a plan of compiling those and turn it into something that makes more sense
but thats a huge project and im lazy
slate hull
green translates to downgrade, red translates to upgrade and black is same grade
I don't know why those colors were picked
carmine token
green translates to downgrade, red translates to upgrade and black is same grade
why is green is downgrede
nocturne cape
So these can just change into either?
yes they are all 8 ingot in value
muted skiff
So these can just change into either?
same grade yea
nocturne cape
the upper 3 are the downgrade from 12
so 12 ingot coins can ONLY downgrade to 8 via those 3
but they are 8 ingots themselves so you can also run into them trading 8 ingot coins
prime mountain
mhmmm ok yeah makes sense
muted skiff
i love how the 12 ingot one can be downgrade to 4
nocturne cape
The downgrades arent bad so w/e
Id be pissed if they can downgrade to a weather coin
carmine token
martial fight getting downgraded to dew in gold
muted skiff
coin of gamble
winged tapir
What's a flower coin?
muted skiff
coin of gamble
be water my coin
carmine token
What's a flower coin?
the coin above ur mesage is flower coin, they are pink
winged tapir
Is it always better to conserve the rec voucher?
carmine token
Is it always better to conserve the rec voucher?
yea, cuz u can light ops
prime mountain
Almost always yes
carmine token
i save my voacher till f3 so i can light ops
dusk creek
i have a plan of compiling those and turn it into something that makes more sens...
Do you know what happened to mouse’s writeup
I remember he was translating some of the cn info
nocturne cape
Do you know what happened to mouse’s writeup
I have no idea
I was thinking about making a coin trading sim
So you put in your coin and it tells you what it can turn into
dusk creek
:ya:
winged tapir
Click mod worth giving? And mastery?
nocturne cape
not really
winged tapir
What the heck is this map 
slate hull
number of hits filter
muted tundra
if I've done hoshi s3m1 already...which skill should I m3....
don't say both T_T
can I just s2m3 s3m1 and call it a day
s3 gains kinda sad
nocturne cape
F4 dish
inland elbow
More
stray dove
Bob Cert. By that point I might not even burn all the ingots
Bob Cert is a really decent starting-DP relic
stray dove
in an ASPD ingot run, Bob Cert just gave me 99 DP from the get go without the 99 DP coin
nocturne cape
still 0 vanguard
dusk creek
cube have you tried hoshi + ange core defsupp
dusk creek
hm yeah I was wondering about that
nocturne cape
well yeah but if you start e2 ange
you're essentially betting on F1 shop giving you 2 def vouchers
lets just say that's not very consistent
even then idk if ange hoshi is truly better than trag hoshi
inland elbow
Wouldn't trag start make more sense in that case
If you whiff supp voucher in shop you'd have e1 trag + e2 hoshi
nocturne cape
correct
inland elbow
Which is a better situation than e1 hoshi + e2 trag
inland elbow
Double sup voucher is also probably stronger comp wise than double def voucher if it happens
nocturne cape
then at that point you gave up the possibility of candling on f2
can be good or bad
like the def supp meta is e1 raidian and you see your voucher and pivot into candling or fighting on the F2 pathfinder
i think similar thing can be applied if you start e1 trag
dusk creek
Which is a better situation than e1 hoshi + e2 trag
ya that's true
nocturne cape
idk tho, im not very experienced with raidianless defsupp
if we're going off CN strat i think its e1 trag start into always candling on F2 pathfinder
dusk creek
cause 1 def 1 supp is the same but 2 def hoshi is worse than 2 supp trag
nocturne cape
i have no way of knowing whether that is optimal or not
inland elbow
Dw give it about 2 weeks and I'll be rank 1 tacfort fan and defender 😇
dusk creek
if you're playing raidian wouldn't you start e2 raidian
cause raidian mu is already good enough ya
no reason to risk no supp
nocturne cape
yes
thats what i did on CN
but raidian amiya F2 bosky is
ehh
it works
but too many things can mess with it
inland elbow
I was wondering about that, even if you refresh f1 shop + 2/3 combats, the chance of seeing the in class voucher you want is still kinda sus no?
Or rather, the chance is going to be like 95%
But the 5% is going to really suck
Saving you 2 hope is kinda big regardless though so eh
nocturne cape
if you see 0 supp voucher you recruit hoshi and pathfinder fight on F2
thats another 2 option voucher
if it still doesnt work you skip f2 bosky and try to enter on F3
inland elbow
And hoshi radian amiya solves every bosky fight yeah
nocturne cape
but yeah the highest winrate guy always start E2 raidian
nocturne cape
And hoshi radian amiya solves every bosky fight yeah
almost
dusk creek
raidian amiya mostly solves all the basic fights is the thing right
nocturne cape
they can do everything in 1 try except for 2 stages
dusk creek
though it's less efficient/guaranteed
nocturne cape
ware user C or 3 master confusion
yes
its less efficient because some stages take 2 candles
and hours can mess with it
dusk creek
it's just unique to raidian I guess because if you have her your floor is so high
nocturne cape
yep