is-station

[sonic sable]

I got both in 51 too. Plus a blaze alter and p4 mlynar

[arctic panther]

is quercus still worth taking now that haruka exists

[remote badger]

low hope econ maybe

[stray dove]

hope is always the consideration

are you that desperate during that situation

for you to get Quercus instead of waiting

[arctic panther]

i dont even have her yet im considering my options with the senior op permit

im currently thinking of quercus warfarin or la pluma

[arctic panther]

and waai fu for is6

[remote badger]

ed2 gaming

[stray dove]

sigh

of course the permit has no Indra

[arctic panther]

waai fu doesnt need e2 to work for ed2 right?

[remote badger]

what the fuck

[stray dove]

nope

it's all about S1

[remote badger]

3 fucking kichisei pots

where haruka

ok

good

[sick mason]

Using Hoshiguma to train the Hoshiguma

[remote badger]

lmao

[arctic panther]

does that mean i can just leave her at e0 lv1 and jie will still get neutered?

[stray dove]

i mean

have you seen her S1 skill level improvements?

[steel relic]

No

[stray dove]

the 2 seconds might not be enough?

[nocturne cape]

Pretty big

[stray dove]

and lower %

[arctic panther]

e1 it is then

[remote badger]

cube have u got haruka on en yet

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[stray dove]

I've already started training Hoshitter's S3M1

i would use the insta-M3 on Haruka S3

probably

need to read up on her

since i haven't done my research on her too much

she wasn't even in my radar

[sick mason]

I'm still confused as heck on how Hoshitter S3 works

[stray dove]

till i learned about HoshiHaru Yi stall

[stray dove]

click once, Logos

click twice, Surtr

got it?

[remote badger]

4 FUCKING PISS PRISMS

[sick mason]

... Do I need to wait for Hoshi to deplete all her green HP bar first and then click twice?

[stray dove]

your choice

it's more valuable that way

cause the moment you click twice

the 11 seconds start

but if you think Hoshi might die even with negative HP

just trigger it

[cloud cliff]

how good the swire is mod?

[stray dove]

Cube says decent

[cloud cliff]

awesome

[sick mason]

The time window after clicking twice is just 11 seconds huh

Might be usable indeed in the fucking map where that Ursus ufo is in the center

[nocturne cape]

Yes

She kills everything relicless

Eat ufo strikes like breakfast

[sick mason]

Hmm does she have enough time to deploy and use S3?

[stray dove]

i'm unfortunately Swireter-less

but QB finally spooked

[sick mason]

Initial SP 31 and SP cost 50 now

[stray dove]

too bad her relevance in IS is way past now

[sick mason]

Still S3 lvl 7 ofc

[sinful sparrow]

i have acquired fish eggs and hoshi

31

[remote badger]

101

[sick mason]

100 pulls and still not a single Haruka

Thorns alter spook me at 30th

[stray dove]

goes to show i really have no happiness in any form of gacha

i'm so lucky in this banner

yet i feel no joy

i guess that's why I'm not so compelled to do any impulse pulling

[sinful sparrow]

didnt ask

[cloud cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/stickers/1242831513855197226.png?size=512&lossless=true

[remote badger]

at least i have a fish

[pastel saffron]

I saw some April usage in IS5, I am guessing she's the best pick right? Leizi can be a Yan pick with extra voucher but seems kinda cope

if april isnt useful I can just go chiave ig he is used in meme clears for quick start

[sick mason]

April is mehhhh

If you want 5* sniper, just pick Krooster

Or if you're looking for a Yan operator, Jieyun

[stray dove]

didn't care for any reply

[steel relic]

You use April to spam Ros summons

[woeful anchor]

what pot is your canta

[stray dove]

I'd sooner you decide which to pick based on who helps you in base skills

[pastel saffron]

max pot

[woeful anchor]

damn

whisperain for is3 tank strat or april to spam rosmo pillar

[nocturne cape]

Her S3 has 8sec start ip

She tanks quite a few shots

[woeful anchor]

todifons good in is5 if u play 5star only 😇 this is surely relevant

[nocturne cape]

And as she is about to die you deactivate S3

And then she kills everything

[pastel saffron]

actually not a bad idea ngl

[stray dove]

only noteworthy ones is Swire for CC

[pastel saffron]

If my kafka was close ig I could pick her coz she is used in yato2 soul escort, or waifu for ed2 is6

[stray dove]

and Whisperain on HR for Rosmontis Exodia

[sick mason]

As soon as she's about to die?

Depletes her green HP?

[stray dove]

think of it like Surtr

in terms of best value for tanking

the times when you only S3 Surtr when she's about to "die"

[sick mason]

I know how Surtr works since she just decided to recover the whole HP and became a madwoman

Hoshitter is quite new due to new HP mechanic she has

[nocturne cape]

When her red hp is about to be full

Green hp is 1/3 of her effective hp btw

[stray dove]

thats why theoretically

Hoshitter has 300% HP

of her base HP stats

100% of normal

200% of red

[nocturne cape]

And any hp scaling is also triple 😉

Not broken at all

[sick mason]

Her red HP bar has twice over her green HP?

[stray dove]

yes

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[stray dove]

but red HP doesn't get green healed

like summons or enmity

you know the drill

she can self heal it like a Thorns

[nocturne cape]

Except it auto recovers if she stopped taking damage

[stray dove]

she self heals red HP

[nocturne cape]

[stray dove]

if she's not taking damage for a while

Thorns-like

[woeful anchor]

hoshi = zuole2

how broken

[sick mason]

Lemme get this straight: In that map where Ursus drone at the center, plop down Hoshitter (31/50 SP), wait for her red HP bar to go to full, activate her S3?

[stray dove]

or just do it asap

[nocturne cape]

Pls S3M3

[sick mason]

I'm still mastering it

[woeful anchor]

is this regular army?

[sick mason]

Using Hoshi to master Hoshi

[nocturne cape]

No

Breakthrough

[sick mason]

Not that one

Yes the breakthrough stage in Wonderland

[stray dove]

time to raise QB since she's my only 6* that ain't raised

[woeful anchor]

anyone wanna do my ato stages

so i can go back to IS

😇

[nocturne cape]

No, put her down, activate S3 as soon as its ready, when her red hp is about to become full from next ufo hit, cancel it

Done

[sonic sable]

Hmm

[stray dove]

Surtr-like in terms of trying to get maximum value in S3 immortality

[sick mason]

Press S3 as soon as possible once (not twice) > red HP about to become full > press again?

[narrow cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/man-batman-gif-15878261339474584650

[stray dove]

i mean

for example

[woeful anchor]

just try to use hoshi bruh

[stray dove]

if Hoshitter's targets die already

no point clicking again

clicking twice means

Hoshitter is insta-retreated after 11 seconds

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[sick mason]

Oh I forgot I still have the top operator skill training pack

[woeful anchor]

man this banner shouldve been ez skip

but hoshi mod too op

[stray dove]

click once if you want a blocking Logos

[woeful anchor]

🥀

[stray dove]

click twice if you want Surtr

[nocturne cape]

You can read her S3 first

[stray dove]

simple as that

[sick mason]

But I'll use it for Haruka

[nocturne cape]

Canceling that skill is basically a undying buff for a few seconds, greatly increased damage and retreat 11 seconds later

Oh, undying buff for all nearby allied ops

[sick mason]

Even at M3 the duration is still 11 seconds?

[nocturne cape]

Even better

Yes

[stray dove]

it's always 11 seconds

but it means anyone in her range

can't die

[woeful anchor]

just m3 ur ops bruh

[stray dove]

since she gets all the damage done to other ops during the 11 seconds

[pastel saffron]

is this s2

[stray dove]

and she's immortal during it

[sonic sable]

Ya

[pastel saffron]

hatuka s2 was cheap iirc not worth m3

lemme see

[nocturne cape]

Its not really cheap

[stray dove]

every M3 in 6*

ain't cheap

[sick mason]

Haruka S2 needed like twice activation

[stray dove]

it's just differing in what materials are used

[stray dove]

but every mats used for M3 in 6*

[nocturne cape]

Unless youre out of thr CEU hell already

[stray dove]

are the same amt of different rarity

[sick mason]

I hate the T5 crystalline unit

[desert brook]

what the fuck 20 gel mastery

[nocturne cape]

Yep

[sick mason]

Despite I do have the materials

[nocturne cape]

Im dropping the m3 voucher on her S2

[pastel saffron]

Hoshi S2 = 3418 Sanity
Hoshi S3 = 2705 Sanity
Haruka S2 = 3202 Sanity
Haruka S3 = 3639 Sanity

[nocturne cape]

I can farm the piss jar this event

So i dint care

[pastel saffron]

ok yeah its not that cheap

can use

[nocturne cape]

Haruka S3 is that high?

Ato has piss jar farm

[sick mason]

60% sanctuary is insane

[stray dove]

[pastel saffron]

yrah I calculated from sheet

[sick mason]

Plus making enemies airborne whenever they hit a target with bubble

[nocturne cape]

Its updated with event?

[woeful anchor]

whale

[nocturne cape]

Its literally just piss jar and rock

[desert brook]

i have 0 gel i think im gonna use m3 voucher too if i get her

[pastel saffron]

Ill show u which one, u tell me

[stray dove]

got a gut feeling regarding the difficulty of T5 piss. Makes sense Haruka's S3 is most expensive

[nocturne cape]

This very event

Has T3 new mat

[woeful anchor]

piss jar as in aketon

or piss jar as in ch15 mat

[nocturne cape]

Ch15

So it shouldnt be that high

[stray dove]

since when was Aketon a JAR

[sick mason]

15-9

[woeful anchor]

isnt ch15 mat mid value

[pastel saffron]

https://ark.yituliu.cn/material/value

@nocturne cape used this

[sick mason]

You know that stage where it has 120 enemies but Logos S1 easily erased them all

[sonic sable]

Maybe should have used it on hoshi s2 oh well

[stray dove]

Defaulting QB to S1 because of chance in revisiting Quilon

[woeful anchor]

wat

why would u m3 hoshi s2

[stray dove]

why not

I want that Yi stall impeccable

[sonic sable]

Most sanity needed to m3

[woeful anchor]

youre using the skill?

[sonic sable]

Idk ppl say its the main is skill

[woeful anchor]

???

where

[sonic sable]

Youtube vid

[stray dove]

WAT?

[woeful anchor]

@nocturne cape is hoshi s2 unironically used?

[stray dove]

It's S3

[nocturne cape]

yeah

[stray dove]

S2 is for Yi stall

[nocturne cape]

Because ed3 gutted init sp

[woeful anchor]

oh its for ed3

[stray dove]

it's for Ed1/Yi too

[sonic sable]

I am still doing s3 first

Then s2

Not doing haru s3

[woeful anchor]

wtf does yi do

yi is big bob tier

[stray dove]

......

instead of Raidian S1 and/or Trag S2

just Hoshitter S2 and Haruka S3

[sonic sable]

Tell that to reddit

[woeful anchor]

if u get trivailized by trag s2 ur basically big bob tier

sorry

🥀

[sonic sable]

[stray dove]

so TLK and Isharmla

got it

[woeful anchor]

yes

theyre big bob tier

[sonic sable]

90 percent redditors struggle at d6 yi

[pastel saffron]

btw according to this leizi s3 was close to 3.7k sanity, so whoever did that

[woeful anchor]

the final boss of tlk are the fucking casters

the final boss of skalter is the fuken elites there

and having 0 good ranged tiles

[sonic sable]

Do i start with hoshi or still raidian?

[stray dove]

Hoshi ain't a good E1

how many times do we have to say that a good starter can carry with E1 S2

[woeful anchor]

why would i, they cant even read in game mechanics

🗣️

[woeful knot]

damn elitist

[woeful anchor]

how can i be sure that they can read my msg

🗣️

[stray dove]

OH NO THE GAVIAL BRAVES ISN'T TAKING DAMAGE

WHY?!

CUORA IS BLOCKING IT, YES

MUST BE BUGGED

[woeful anchor]

real

[stray dove]

YOSTAR YOU IDIOT

[woeful anchor]

reading is a hard skill

😢

[steel relic]

Tbh I expected elemental bursts to work on them too

Cuz it’s sourceless

[woeful anchor]

imagine spending so much time on a message board, but u cant read in game messages 😢

[steel relic]

But they don’t

[sonic sable]

The other red is smarter

[steel relic]

There is no other red you are being deceived

[nocturne cape]

Hoshi can!

Her red hp bar thingy is from e1

[stray dove]

....Cube i just saw you do that couple of days ago

i don't think you'd recommend that if anyone can just play Raidian instead

in DefSupp

[nocturne cape]

Obviously

[stray dove]

the only guys you'd recommend a Hoshitter start are actual "regulars" here

[sick mason]

Hmm I haven't find a breakthrough combat yet in wonderland

To test my Hoshitter against that mfing ursus ufo

[nocturne cape]

You need s3m3 for d15

I think the few sec matters

[steel relic]

How has a second person been infected by this stupid fucking name

[woeful anchor]

u can just bait

with a diff unit

[nocturne cape]

Nope

[woeful anchor]

if u dont got sp

wat

[nocturne cape]

My monkey brain doesnt wanna do that

[woeful anchor]

:lappphone:

[nocturne cape]

Put down and activate skill

[faint rampart]

[woeful anchor]

i hope d18 makes stuffs intresting

buff yi pls

[stray dove]

thats already done

[woeful anchor]

make the stage not boring

[stray dove]

have you not seen pattern recognition?

[woeful anchor]

wat

[stray dove]

it's gonna be the same design as IS5's D16 - D18

[woeful anchor]

zzzzzzzzz

[stray dove]

they will make other IS6 mechanics worse

[woeful anchor]

vertical movement = 4 coupon

[stray dove]

they've already buffed Ed1-3 bosses

[woeful anchor]

cursed relic at f3

then more risk tongbaos

yep

this will be so ass

[sick mason]

No pls

[woeful anchor]

🥀

[stray dove]

D18 ALL Risk Tongbao start

make Tourist Squad very.....masochistic in D18

[faint rampart]

hell no

[woeful anchor]

thats what they did to is5

vertical movement 2 plan -> 3 plan

prolly same for is6 maybe

[faint rampart]

surely it will be different this time

plans felt way easier to get... coupons not sure

[remote badger]

4 coupons 💀

[stray dove]

oh...I'm gonna prio finishing Blazer's module for normal content

[remote badger]

hopefully

[nocturne cape]

I feel like its gonna be another talisman gimmick

Watch it be 3x3 silence + burn

[stray dove]

oh yeah

D15 did upgrade talisman issues

[magic flicker]

yo I have 60 pulls left, got Haruka, should I dip?

[stray dove]

D18....ALL STATUEGEIST SPAWNS DRAGONS

[sick mason]

Hey hey hey

[nocturne cape]

Can dip ig

Hoshi is good

[woeful anchor]

one of them is prolly gona be cursed relic

[nocturne cape]

But 60 prob guarantees saki

[remote badger]

ballsack after ballsacks after ballsacks.....

[magic flicker]

ehh fair enough

[sick mason]

I thought collab banners usually guarantee the operator at 120 pulls

[magic flicker]

they do

[native sky]

pure stats

With +60atk + concentration disorder

Lemuen 60k/hit

S3

Literally Bombarder

[proven dagger]

cold WHAT

[sharp harbor]

Is Hoshiguma alt good for IS?

[remote badger]

yeh

is6

[sharp harbor]

Why? need some enlightenment hehe

[stray dove]

wouldn't she theoretically also be valuable in IS5 and IS4 and IS2?

IS3 just hates ground units with not enough range

[somber stream]

IS5 high diff is way too strict with its drafts for ed4+.

[stray dove]

Tempting....but she ain't near Kernel levels

[stray dove]

Quilon just hates anything aerial attacking. Boats in danger

at least unless the range is not too wide

[native sky]

guys

And recommendation of guard in is6 besides the newest 6* guard

[sick mason]

Mlynar

[native sky]

Oh wait

I can lend one

Nvm guys

[sharp harbor]

[faint rampart]

ente

[gaunt bay]

Big damage, big range, big hp

[sick mason]

S3 really makes her HP pool really beefy ngl

[stray dove]

well yeah

she has a natural 300% max HP passive

so any increases in her max HP is really inflating her survival

i cannot imagine how her HP looks like with Stirfry, Instrument, and/or Sand Shield

[sick mason]

Speaking of beefier

[nocturne cape]

Yep

The other book gives +60% atk to defenders

Absolutely busted

[stray dove]

Hoshitter's mod 3 months away

the countdown begins

[stray dove]

i do like that they changed Advancements of each class to cater some perks to those with naturally low HP stats

gave them other perks that were more useful

[nocturne cape]

yep

book is actually a reason to draft ops now

[sick mason]

No combat path huh

[nocturne cape]

nymph with all the caster books is absolutely busted

[sick mason]

Before this was encounter

[nocturne cape]

i had a run where i got no real big relics but all the caster books

and nymph carried my ass

[gaunt spire]

Hi everyone, I am a newish player that is trying to get into IS for the first time and I am just looking for general strategy advice. These are the agents I have leveled up. I have a ton of 5 stars and stuff but there is so many operators that I dunno who I need to level to be successful. I also have the two new 5/6 star selectors that I am holding off on until I know what to do with them.

[nocturne cape]

which IS are you trying to do?

[stray dove]

I can guide you which IS you want to do

[remote badger]

need the context

[stray dove]

do you want the simplest and most basic?

[gaunt spire]

I am starting from the beginning so I guess 1?

[stray dove]

or do you want the fastest way to level up a milestone?

IS2 it is

IS1 doesn't exist

[remote badger]

1 does not exist

[stray dove]

it was the temporary beta test

IS2 is where permanent IS began

[gaunt spire]

yea Phantom and Crimson Soltaire is where I am at, since I havent done any of it yet

[stray dove]

once you finish in IS2....we can start in any other IS and not need to do it by sequence

every other IS that ain't IS2 has its own gimmicks that you need to learn separately

although IS3's gimmicks are still simple

it's also not newbie friendly

[gaunt bay]

Cube!

How pulls go

[nocturne cape]

101 got both

[gaunt spire]

Hmm I see. so is there a recommended order I should do them in? I am mostly trying to figure out how to be "Ready"

[nocturne cape]

finally ahead of the curve for once

[remote badger]

no

[gaunt bay]

Ya

[nocturne cape]

ive been pulling below average for the past 6 months

[sick mason]

Not really I guess

[nocturne cape]

on EN

[gaunt bay]

Tell me about it

[nocturne cape]

necrass took 150

leizi is right at average

[remote badger]

if u want steep as fuck learning curve take is3 or 4

[nocturne cape]

lemuen took 360

etc

[stray dove]

How far is Mujica from ATO?

I'm thinking if I would promote more ops now

or conserve a bit

[nocturne cape]

since we got pepe first i think mujika is the very next banner

[remote badger]

if u want really normal one take is2

[nocturne cape]

on CN it was hoshi - pepe event rerun - ave mujica

[stray dove]

hmmmm

[gaunt bay]

Slop

[sick mason]

Uh...

one month?!

[stray dove]

I just researched

yeah Arclight is next

[nocturne cape]

CN had pepe + arclight in between

no banner for both of these

[stray dove]

don't think of CN dates

they had Pepe in betweens

[nocturne cape]

but pepe rerun came first for us

and arclight can overlap with the next event

so idk

either case mujica should be real soon

[stray dove]

at least we know CCB4 MIGHT NOT overlap with Mujica

[nocturne cape]

and also

ato event ended at 23rd

[stray dove]

ok time to do some more promotions

[nocturne cape]

so its not a month away

[stray dove]

there's enough time

[nocturne cape]

its not even half a month

so shorter for us

[gaunt spire]

So I am gathering I should try 2, 5, and 6 first then do 3/4 last since they are hard

[stray dove]

i mean it's always been 3 weeks

[gaunt spire]

and my brain is small

[stray dove]

always been 21 days active

for new events

[nocturne cape]

The IS themes you see start from 2

[wind smelt]

does wet chen see any usage in is6?

[gaunt spire]

Err yea I meant 2

[stray dove]

hah no

[gaunt spire]

sorry

[nocturne cape]

but yes, IS2 is simpler in terms of mechanics but recently got a difficulty rework

[stray dove]

Last time I saw Chalter value was Izumik laning

[nocturne cape]

id try IS2 lower diff for a taste of basic IS and work your way up

[gaunt bay]

Needs testing

Theres potential

Lotta damage

[nocturne cape]

i think IS2 D9 is the original highest diff right

or am i trippin

[gaunt spire]

Is there anything in particular I should gun for in terms of having enough agents? How many 3/4/5/ stars do I need? I have been mostly focusing on my 6 stars since they have the coolest moves

[gaunt bay]

Completing hardmode gets you d9 unlock

So its technically d8

🫡

[nocturne cape]

agents are only used in 5 and 6

[stray dove]

only useful 6-stars, only useful 4-stars, only useful 3-stars

[nocturne cape]

so sarkaz and sui

[proven dagger]

@halcyon flame @cold fjord IS6 raise

[nocturne cape]

well Ines is used elsewhere but i was talking about the 5* agents

[gaunt bay]

Ines good is4

[gaunt spire]

and which 3/4/5 stars should I build/get? I have the two new selectors and I was thinking for the 6 star I would get Surtr or maybe Saria to replace Flametail or Nearl respectively. For the 5 star selector there is way too many options lol

[gaunt bay]

Someone forward the mei tl

[gaunt spire]

@nocturne cape Do you mean there is preset agents to use in IS2-4? I didn't know that

[stray dove]

ignore 5* for now

[nocturne cape]

preset agents?

wait

do you mean "operators" when you say agents

[gaunt spire]

Ah yea LOL

[nocturne cape]

agent is a subclass in Arknights

[gaunt bay]

Bro is playing valorant

[gaunt spire]

I am indeed playing valorant

[stray dove]

[nocturne cape]

i see the confusion now

[proven dagger]

thinking of raising carne for IS

[gaunt bay]

Agent is a specific type of operator

[nocturne cape]

i was like "why is bro simping agents"

[proven dagger]

im deciding between Carne or Aak

[gaunt bay]

😭

[proven dagger]

kinda siding with Aak

[proven dagger]

who wouldnt

[sick mason]

Carnelian usage 🥀

[gaunt bay]

Shit and shitter

🥀

[proven dagger]

yeah but they're fun

Aak with mod is super fun

[sick mason]

Shitter and shit

[nocturne cape]

anyway, you kinda have to pick and choose, if you decided to invest in 3 stars you're mainly looking at IS2, 3 and 4, if you invest in 4 stars you're looking at 5 and 6

[sick mason]

At least Aak has better use case than Carnelian

[proven dagger]

Aak has stuns

so I likey

it'll save me a draft if I get Moonlight

[gaunt bay]

Questionable nowadays i think

[sick mason]

Yes I know

[nocturne cape]

3 stars arent really used in 5 and 6, same goes for 4 stars for earlier ISes (excluding gravel and myrtle and some good ones)

[sick mason]

Aak is invalidated by Exu2

[gaunt bay]

I think post m3 aak usage just kinda died

[proven dagger]

I don't have Exu2

[gaunt bay]

?

Not relevant

[proven dagger]

so I will raise Aak

[sick mason]

Same subclass I mean

[gaunt bay]

His role was not damage anyways

Bruh

Not relevant

[nocturne cape]

and 5 stars kind of universally suck except for a few of them

[gaunt spire]

I see, is there any standout operators I should watch out for? I have leveled Lappland, Ptolopsis, and Texas already for 5 stars, for 4 stars I leveled up Myrtle, Click, and Indigo

[nocturne cape]

so in conclusion, if you wanna work your way up from the basic ISes raise 3 stars, if you wanna join the crowd in recent, more mechanically complex ISes raise your 4 stars

[wind smelt]

wish they made 5 stars always free recruits in all IS modes

[sick mason]

Dude no

[wind smelt]

lmao

[sick mason]

4* already free in IS5 and IS6

[wind smelt]

ye why not just go 5* too

[nocturne cape]

for 4 stars, some good ones to have handy are Myrtle, Gummy, Click and May

these 4 are good in IS 5 and 6

and then it kinda depend on the theme

tell me which one looks interesting first ig

[gaunt spire]

Since I am focusing IS2 first, I will work on 3 stars for now. I have heard good things about Spot, Midnight, Beagle. Is there anyone else here that is decent?

[nocturne cape]

Fang, Ansel, Orchid, Steward, Popukar, Kroos

am i missing anyone

cardigan

[gaunt bay]

Spot

Goober

[nocturne cape]

kiwi..

you dont even need to scroll up

he mentioned spot

[remote badger]

lol

[gaunt bay]

[scenic saffron]

My Hoshiruka banner didn't go well :(

[nocturne cape]

rip

[scenic saffron]

:grief

[wind smelt]

161 pulls for me

[gaunt spire]

Is there certain ones of these I shouldn't bother leveling up since I have 5/6 stars as well, presumably Ill get to use them at some point even in IS2?

[nocturne cape]

well heres the thing

[gaunt bay]

Nooooo

[nocturne cape]

in IS there is no such thing as 5/6 stars being better than 3/4 stars because the lower rairty operators cost no resource

[gaunt bay]

That sucks to hear hotaru

[scenic saffron]

Fucking
P4 zuo le now

[gaunt bay]

[nocturne cape]

thats why its supposedly an endgame mode

it is roster demanding

[scenic saffron]

😭

[gaunt bay]

Damn hes fucking zuole

Jack would be jealous

[faint rampart]

gay

[gaunt spire]

I see I see

[scenic saffron]

LMFAO

[nocturne cape]

you kinda need to raise even the lower rarities despite them having higher rarity upgrades

[remote badger]

i guess borrowing time

[nocturne cape]

like myrtle is not a better flag bearer comparing to Saileach or Ely, but she cost no hope, so basically free

thats kinda the thing with IS

you need lower rarity drafts when you cant afford the hope to recruit better operators

[wind smelt]

how do you go about stacking attack speed in is6?

[remote badger]

also hold ur urges on drafting random stuffs

[remote badger]

sometimes

[gaunt spire]

Okay I am taking notes, is there any 5 stars who are good to get for later IS so I can use the free token recruits on something? I have the 5/6 star selectors to use as well. I will work on leveling the 3 stars for IS2 but that will prolly take me a bit to level like 8-10 characters lol

[remote badger]

depends

[proven dagger]

im gonna experimsnt with chalter drafts in is6

[remote badger]

3* are cheap as hell

u shouldnt worry

[gaunt spire]

the 6 star selector for Surtr, Saria, Bagpipe, Eyja. Surtr is the cutest one so I am tempted to just get her lol

but is one of them a lot better than the others

[halcyon flame]

W eats

[nocturne cape]

IS5 and 6 kinda requires different 5 stars, the only universal one is Amiya but you dont need a selector for her

[gaunt bay]

She needs medic form btw

Also agents are universal wdym

[nocturne cape]

Anyway

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/low-rarity-recommendations/

IS6

https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/low-rarity-recommendations/

IS5

[remote badger]

which is 14-22

[nocturne cape]

You can click on each op to see their usage

[gaunt bay]

Surfer canta good in both

[nocturne cape]

Oh yeah

[gaunt bay]

Cubeslop

[nocturne cape]

Shit how could i forget agents

[remote badger]

about agents just dont take anything outside of surfer canta ines

[nocturne cape]

Idt surfer is in there? Canta definitely is in there

[faint rampart]

same doubt
but i don't think ill ever get to a point of recruiting surtr

[gaunt spire]

damn now the valorant shit is throwing me off, LOL seeing agents is like my sleeper cell activator word

[nocturne cape]

But yeah now that you know the context you can just check the website to see who you should raise

Written by (hopefully) trustworthy players

[gaunt bay]

Er

Soul escort guide:

[nocturne cape]

Well sescort guide is a translation

[gaunt bay]

Its like a full page advertisement :icant:

[nocturne cape]

The lower rarity guide for IS5 is a ISC project

[remote badger]

ig u played for 2 years

or more

[nocturne cape]

its ok at least you're not calling them Champions

i can live with agents

[gaunt bay]

Shattered champions

[wind smelt]

heroes

[remote badger]

speedy hammer bois

[nocturne cape]

you need some shattering

is4 slop

[gaunt bay]

[remote badger]

that turns my lp into trapped in the white walls

[gaunt bay]

Take me out to dinner first

[nocturne cape]

[remote badger]

...

[nocturne cape]

anyway

good luck on your IS journey

[gaunt bay]

Ya

Gl hf

[gaunt spire]

@remote badger I actually go back and forth between agents and characters since I played Blazblue for so many years. Thanks for those IS guides, I will def check those out and will begin my struggle lmao

[nocturne cape]

you can prob just throw any question here

[remote badger]

fucking around and find out is the main strat

[nocturne cape]

tbh

i think IS2 sucks

[gaunt bay]

Ice cold take

[nocturne cape]

newer player should just start from the most recent IS

but thats apparently a hot take as i see IS2 being recommended in #help

[gaunt bay]

Its cuz its simple

[nocturne cape]

building 3 stars is also

cringe

[gaunt bay]

U dont have to learn anything

[nocturne cape]

at least you can actually use myrtle or gravel in gen content

[wind smelt]

what's the most random IS

[gaunt bay]

Besides basic mechanics

[gaunt bay]

5

[nocturne cape]

good luck using your midnight or popukar in events

[remote badger]

fit with causal en culture

[gaunt bay]

Oops free kingset chalice

[remote badger]

being not able to read

[gaunt bay]

Ur not using ur 4* either

[nocturne cape]

no

[gaunt bay]

I hardly even use canta surfer

[nocturne cape]

i used myrtle and gravel just last event

[gaunt bay]

Okay so ur cringe

Or just a p*or

[wind smelt]

brazy

[nocturne cape]

wtf is p*or

oh

poor

[gaunt bay]

A poor

[nocturne cape]

no

i hate using agents in gen content

[gaunt bay]

Cube known p*or

[nocturne cape]

thats a hot take i know

[gaunt bay]

I have sail ines

All i need

[nocturne cape]

i also use sail ines

[gaunt spire]

@nocturne cape I usually play initiators. I am a Breach, Fade, Sova player

[remote badger]

me causally using agents in literally anywhere:

[nocturne cape]

but for AS-S-4 CM i felt like i can use another myrtle

but yeah

[stray dove]

I use Ines and anyone else. It'll be Ines and SAlter soon

[nocturne cape]

sorry i dont know what any of that means

[gaunt bay]

I have never felt those 2 were insufficient

[nocturne cape]

not a val player

[gaunt bay]

They are v*lorant agents

[wind smelt]

SAlter gonna go damn crazy

[nocturne cape]

yes SAlter is such a broken op

that S3 is busted

[remote badger]

but where is my dp

[nocturne cape]

100k total damage btw

[proven dagger]

got my CS mod for IS6

just need trust

[nocturne cape]

vg btw

dp gen matching saileach btw

cost swap too

oh and is tanky

has self healing

can buff my pram alter

yeah sa alter is stacked

[remote badger]

how is he even a vg

[gaunt bay]

Bro only buffs this guy’s pram alter specifically

[nocturne cape]

what about it

pram alter is good op

gen content monster

ok in IS too

[proven dagger]

aura monster

[gaunt bay]

Damn gen content andy op

😢

[wind smelt]

just standing there

[nocturne cape]

shes literally my caster 1st draft in IS6

[proven dagger]

i heard SAlter is good in CCB5

[wind smelt]

menacingly

[nocturne cape]

so called gen content andy

[faint rampart]

caster voucher saved no way

[nocturne cape]

you can also draft her in wisadel slop is5

[proven dagger]

IS is gen content if you high roll enough

[nocturne cape]

also hand of rumble

[stray dove]

does that even exist yet?

[proven dagger]

who knows

(no)

[nocturne cape]

shes worth it

insane utility and good aoe damage

my CN gen content team is literally SA and Exu S3 redeploying him

xd

i dont need any other DP source

[faint rampart]

[proven dagger]

🤫

[stray dove]

#ak-lore ?

[kind shuttle]

shit youre right

[native sky]

the fuck？

Alter map?

[nocturne cape]

Yep

[native sky]

Im cooked

💀

[nocturne cape]

Hi cooked 💀

[cold fjord]

u

how were ur pulls

[nocturne cape]

101, 2 Haruka, 1 Hoshi, 1 Gavial

Saving for saki

[cold fjord]

[native sky]

191 4 haruka

wtf

💀

[nocturne cape]

Hby

Euthy

[stray dove]

4 trust ops....

been a while since I've had that many

[native sky]

Not too bad

[cold fjord]

i haven't done mine yet

i will report back later!

[proven dagger]

should be enough for sword glaive spear I think

[stray dove]

i guess....

if Ente has targets in originium tile

[proven dagger]

[stray dove]

or is your solution to block the tile before the originium tile?

[proven dagger]

block before originium

i was thinking top and bottom left of originium tole

degen + ente

phantom s2 + red for stall

maybe phantom s3 but I'm not confident about that over straight up killing

[gaunt bay]

Wtf u never asked about mine

😢

[nocturne cape]

Hi kiwi how did yours went

[gaunt bay]

I got hoshi haruka trag in 91

[nocturne cape]

Damn

Lucky for once eh?

[sharp harbor]

When mine

I wanna be lucky af

[sonic sable]

Cracked run wtf

[gaunt bay]

Ya

Very roshype

[native sky]

What are the first and second option guys

[steel relic]

Easy fight or easy emergency fight

[native sky]

Won’t they spawn f6 stages?

Im scared of those shits

[errant siren]

It's special one

[steel relic]

No it’s a special battle for that encounter

It’s free

[native sky]

Ic

Ok ty guys

Oh

The push pull one

[errant siren]

It's Durin Dodge guys from Ideal City and cars.

[native sky]

Kill the cars

And they will fell

[errant siren]

[native sky]

This cross is useless lmao

wtf

The caster is unbeatable

She should be dead

[errant siren]

Well, she refused.

[native sky]

Undertale huh

[gentle pagoda]

what do we think of swalter's IS mod?

considering this, it would make redeployment pretty silly

[steel relic]

It’s very strong

[gentle pagoda]

would need to use redeploy vanguards to offset the dp cost a bit, but that's still crazy

Infinite cantabile works

I just want to see what happens when she unloads 70 coins at once

[steel relic]

She doesn’t get 70 coins

[gentle pagoda]

ah right, it was only stacks

[steel relic]

HG hates fun fr

[gentle pagoda]

still got 15 coins to throw

[proven dagger]

@cold fjord @halcyon flame hear me out Phantom + Swire

infinite skill works

🤫

[desert brook]

it looks really fun to use but i have a feeling shes gonna be too niche to draft often

[gentle pagoda]

the curse of too many fun specialists

It'll probably depend on if there's a merchant hand

[nocturne cape]

there is no reason to draft swire as long as you're drafting exu imo

your second specialist should do what exu cant, and that is aoe/utility

[gentle pagoda]

dorothy moment

[nocturne cape]

swire serves a similar role

[chrome tangle]

So Phantom

[desert brook]

oh yeah exu kinda eats into the rdp niche without eating dp

[gentle pagoda]

why does she eat the rdp niche? Because she's a super burst?

[desert brook]

i mean this part

but now that i think about it i think they might not be similar enough

[gentle pagoda]

ye but I don't get the relation to exulter

[desert brook]

the dp eating still kinda sucks tho

[gentle pagoda]

exulter is doing big damage, but nothing about rdp

[desert brook]

i was thinking about her s3

[gentle pagoda]

oh, I was told it's never worth using

also it's the complete opposite, exu deals with highest rdp time, swire is lowest

[nocturne cape]

i was talking about the single target damage mostly

rdp niche is a nice plus but afterall it is the damage that makes swire viable

4k+ ATK relicless is pretty crazy

[desert brook]

how good is swire damage?

ah i see

[gentle pagoda]

well we need to check now that she gets a bonus 60 stacks

[halcyon flame]

But where DP

Take poncirus fr

[nocturne cape]

on max stack you can assume about 10k+ dps with high dph, and the S3 full launch does roughly 100k (a bit short)

this is relicless 60 ingots

[gentle pagoda]

60 stacks would make +240% atk that sounds neat

[desert brook]

i probably gotta try her out to get a better opinion

[nocturne cape]

i think she's great, shes one of my two shills for IS6 xd

[gentle pagoda]

I had briefly used her in previous IS and she was alright (she's not maxed), so I feel like she can be a decent pick now

her coin skills don't count as ammo skills right? Despite looking like it

[nocturne cape]

it doesnt count no

i have to admit the rdp feels hella nice

especially in stages like ending 2

[gentle pagoda]

redeploy vanguards with her sound insane yeah

[proven dagger]

blacknight draft

blacknight is pretty banger in is6

🤫

like unironically

she solves Feng Shui

🤫

[dusk creek]

True…

[sharp hedge]

Since when does Perfumer have Invisibility?

[proven dagger]

i have underestimated enemy HP

[vestal ice]

I hate IS6 so much. Everything feels way tanky compared to the previous IS and I’m not even past difficulty 5

[gaunt bay]

Built my swire

[nocturne cape]

i need to trust farm her 😭

[gaunt bay]

Cubeslop

[nocturne cape]

the slopping has begun

[gaunt bay]

Cube if i draft exu do i take swire or mizuk first

[nocturne cape]

mizuki imo

swire also works

but it didnt feel optimal to me

[gaunt bay]

[nocturne cape]

but ig it can make your ed2 easy

so if you like that take her

[gaunt bay]

Wait why is swire s2 bad

It was my favorite skill in her base kit

[nocturne cape]

its like

fine

its not bad

but if you want damage youd use S3 and if you want healing youd use S1

[gaunt bay]

Explain pls im too bad at video game

🥹

[nocturne cape]

so

the amount of time you can actually find optimal s2 usage is

meh

[gaunt bay]

Do you just use her to burst

[nocturne cape]

its definitelu usable

yes

[gaunt bay]

I feel like s3 range is too restrictive

Blehh

[nocturne cape]

i can see that

[gaunt bay]

Hidden ela+ swire tech

[nocturne cape]

and also you want more healing units on your team after clarity anyway

so she can also just sit on S1

[gaunt bay]

Thank god i got top op hoshi previously

No need to trust farm her

Just haruka

[nocturne cape]

i got hoshi on my beginner banner

[gaunt bay]

I started with siege ifrit

(Ifrit was not starter banner)

[nocturne cape]

trust farming is so ass

jeez

[gaunt bay]

It is

🥹

[nocturne cape]

its like the CN days all over again

wait for a week before using swire

[gaunt bay]

Skill issue

[nocturne cape]

and i forogt to buy her an outfit

her AS skin reran but i forgot

this is so ass

[chrome tangle]

show her skin

[gaunt bay]

She doesnt deserve it

[chrome tangle]

kiwi that has to be one of ur top 100 worst takes

[gaunt bay]

Swire simps smh…

[nocturne cape]

shes cute

Wdym

[halcyon flame]

🫵

[nocturne cape]

Stfu alyssal

[chrome tangle]

you coulda had her at max trust

u cared enuff!

[vestal ice]

Swires swimsuit from Dossoles Holiday does things to me

[chrome tangle]

swire has been in the game since launch

cube u've had plenty of time 🥀

[slate hull]

finally, I can stop spending defender vouchers on Yu

[halcyon flame]

I’m only missing 20 ops total from having 200% trust on everyone

[slate hull]

also close to 180 certs for Swire, it is kind of tempting

[halcyon flame]

They’re almost all furries or male

Or both

[faint rampart]

yay penance finally getting the attention she deserves

[halcyon flame]

the penance right side ed2 tech

[steel relic]

I forgor

[halcyon flame]

fraudluent

[native sky]

The game crashed

And luckily

It didn’t count as death!

I was going to say that the stupid game crashed again

[dim oar]

Got Haruka and Hoshi alt. So use Haruka on this IS6 right

[onyx pollen]

hoshi2 is made for that one bosky stage where it has the air bombs and the nuker

[arctic panther]

and hoshi

[dim oar]

S3M3 for Hoshi? S2M3 for Haruka

[arctic panther]

m6 them both (ignore s1)

[dim oar]

I don’t have so many mat

[nocturne cape]

S3M3 hoshi S2M3 haruka

[arctic panther]

you dont have to do it immediately

[native sky]

Ok

Still died bc of lack of dps

[dim oar]

Next banner 170k origium should be enough

[native sky]

Stupid id6

[severe oasis]

it wont be

[dim oar]

I still have 1000 origium prime

[nocturne cape]

huh?

[severe oasis]

you need to p6 sakiko

[dim oar]

How come

[severe oasis]

i said so

[nocturne cape]

you dont

rose griefing smh

[dim oar]

I though just get one copy can already

[severe oasis]

i said you do

so

you do

[ornate wave]

I can p6 her with guard pots

It's free on red shop

[severe oasis]

cube can you help me shill chalter

[nocturne cape]

no

[severe oasis]

oh

[steel relic]

It took 4 years but I found Shalem relevance

[ornate wave]

Is Chen alter the one who pushes the Egyptian King in pepe event into holes

[severe oasis]

uuuuuuuhhhh

[prime mountain]

All this for a few hours

[ornate wave]

Nvrmnd that was ling

[steel relic]

[faint rampart]

should use him in stages too, you gotta trust farm for shalemalter

[dim oar]

The usefulness for few hours and IS2

[ornate wave]

I wanted him but I was lazy to complete that is, I died looping on floor 1 then quit until raidian

[severe oasis]

omg wait should i e2 shalem for this

[ornate wave]

Just wait faster

[prime mountain]

Cant even use him as temp in is2, he doesnt have his s2

[severe oasis]

no

[prime mountain]

[steel relic]

he's at 127% we're good

[dim oar]

Raidian too op can rob cannot at floor 1

[severe oasis]

you know who else can do that

[ornate wave]

What does cannot give when robbed

[severe oasis]

idk actually