#is-station

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nocturne cape
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max pot ofc

timber token
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What's e280

nocturne cape
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e2lv80

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elite two, level eighty

timber token
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Then I'm overqualified

faint rampart
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time to raise trag and get my module blocks, funni ccb

nocturne cape
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well trag is insane everywhere so

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definitely do invest in him

timber token
nocturne cape
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who would've guessed the best op of the past year is not a limited

cold fjord
nocturne cape
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you're gigampreg

cold fjord
nocturne cape
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surely you skipped him right

round trellis
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I only have 2 risk coins in the entire coffer

faint rampart
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good lucklaiossmile

round trellis
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why does god punish the good? (I'm still gonna win)

prime mountain
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No bro thats a free emergency stage! surely it cant go out of control

gaunt bay
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Totally not

prime mountain
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omg its kiwi!!!!!!!!!!

gaunt bay
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Meow :3

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How are you furrilo

prime mountain
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feeling meow

gaunt bay
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So true

faint rampart
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no ulpi teleport CeobeConfused

steel relic
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d0 SCsleepybb2

dim oar
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Going to do a tourist squad for IS6 don’t know if it is good a not

prime mountain
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It has very high potential but struggles with early bosky performance

dim oar
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Tired for finding Ling node

raw hemlock
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No saving this run.... and it was going so well, too...

slate hull
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just learned what happens if you kill the foot during Yi fight

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||absolutely nothing||

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would have been funny if it showed the inkstick on the ending screen, but you don't even get that

dim oar
raw hemlock
dim oar
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I just don’t get the tossing the tongbai. So a normal tongbai can only be use once then the risky one can throw infinite right

dim oar
raw hemlock
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The enemies also gave me problems

stray dove
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the rest are infinite use

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it's your job to change the one-use and bad coins into a good set

faint rampart
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ass run, still getting carried by aspd

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maybe bsl truly was the peakCeobeConfused

slate hull
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oops all legend nodes

dim oar
stray dove
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out of all the potential IS exploits, you're really aiming at the most boring application of them all

stray dove
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I've never had such a hunger to do Ling Loop because IS6 already gives me so much power that bullied runs are pretty likely

faint rampart
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why exploit

stray dove
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well

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not exactly exploit

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but you can get high amt of relics

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and it not be just cookie clicker

dim oar
stray dove
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yeah

dim oar
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Seriously this is not IS5

stray dove
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buy in shop from so many emer fight cash

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keep rerolling for emer for more relics

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buy again in next floor and clean shop

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do this until you might just finish the entire relic pool

dim oar
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But to fight Wang need a lot of relic

stray dove
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it really doesn't

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i literally destroy him with just 30

dim oar
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The 1st boss got buffed by wang relic

stray dove
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and?

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if you are struggling with Wang-debuffed Yi fight

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you're not gonna get far anyways

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You don't need a lot of relics. You just need to get the ones that matter.

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That's why Ling to me is just like doing Talons Ingot

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too RNG-heavy for good results

wraith warren
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What does this mean?

prime mountain
prime mountain
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20% iirc, could be wrong

wraith warren
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Bosses included i suppose?

prime mountain
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they get harder stage

wraith warren
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I juat finished d15 135 so i think next is d18

stray dove
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yeah -20%

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on ATK and SP rec

dim oar
stray dove
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you can start by reading them

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all of the ones you discovered

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and any new ones you get

wraith warren
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So i can just avoid being fractured

stray dove
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just

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stop being fractured

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once you get 1 HP

dim oar
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Golden chalice is a must have

stray dove
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sure.

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but don't think the run's finished once you have it

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Chalice is kinda....meh without DPS relics

wraith warren
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Idk man gotta be once u get epochal gaps

stray dove
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Lamp solves that penalty anyways

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just make sure to get your Lamp relics on time

wraith warren
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Drum

stray dove
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the best of the 3....if you're not doing Ed2

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pure ATK. Easy to get stacks for more ATK (via any form of re-tossing coins, even automatic ones)

dim oar
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What is the +6 that one is health relic

stray dove
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it's not just health relic

rapid pulsar
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Stir fry?

stray dove
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it's HP and ATK

prime mountain
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20% base, +10% per stack

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Really goated too

stray dove
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it's the best for Ed2

dim oar
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The +2 relic is speed?

stray dove
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no

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ATK too

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but harder to stack

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Pathfinder successful candling of ops stack

prime mountain
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(Or leifa coin)

stray dove
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but you use what you get

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sometimes a run just only gives you Bells

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so i have to work hard to get my damage

dim oar
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The squad use which one

faint rampart
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awwww

stray dove
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last thing

faint rampart
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ente s2 spin doesn't get affected by aspd?

stray dove
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there are a LOT of DPS relics in IS6

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not just those 3

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so try to just read relics

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it may not be as strong as those 3

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but getting any helps a lot

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and you will try to get as many as possible

prime mountain
wraith warren
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When is dlc coming for is6? And when is d18

dim oar
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If I doing a normal run at the last stage then rob cannot?

stray dove
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i rob Cannot in F1

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there's not much point to even bother with him past F1

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since you'd be aiming more on Pathfinders or WiWs

faint rampart
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fell off

stray dove
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you sure did

faint rampart
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anyways i did the deed

faint rampart
stray dove
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she's stronger than ever in CN

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so you sure fell off

faint rampart
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im getting bullied

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unless i just use s3

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which i would i guess

rough pilot
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Does a Feind support radian keep the extra specializations talents or does that only apply to your own in IS

stray dove
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all i know is a TEMP Raidian only gives you M9 and E2 90

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it doesn't give you the rest of a complete Raidian and uses your own progress in talents

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maybe it applies the same way for Friend borrows?

nocturne cape
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it does

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it uses your own proficiencies

dim oar
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So the borrowed Raidian is better if your own Raidian don’t M9

dim oar
stray dove
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you only need E1 Raidian and E1 Humus. The Medic voucher can either be Purestream or Mamiya

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that's the bare minimum

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if you can get anything stronger or have E2s (Raidian needs to still be there), go for it

dim oar
short anchor
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Stalled his ass in the blue box for 5 minutes while barely being awake FiaDed

dim oar
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There is one risk coin that add 30 ingot then after that -10 per toss. Mean that after getting the 30 ingot then I need to remove it

main bison
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I hate this IS sometimes, I only had 13 relics, but didn't skip combat...

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Feel like RNG bites you a bit too much

faint rampart
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wtf quality

slate hull
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Man, today is not the day for ed2 runs. Anyway, 2 butterflies on the 5x5 edge, one on the 3x3, going to keep track where they keep appearing

mint gull
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Fun fact: you can apparently have the caster in ed3 🙂

nocturne cape
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you need mortal endurance

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but yeah

final gale
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ig she must be tired after all that hard work... poor girl

slate hull
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that is the funny hour of sui that has a random chance to stun your operators when they attack

final gale
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ok now that i inspect it further she do get stunned

faint rampart
final gale
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man didnt know mr furrilo also overwork ente... rly poor girl

faint rampart
copper orchid
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LappDumb i need a way to fast clear is6

remote badger
copper orchid
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Ye ed1 is too hard

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Its not too hard but like, requires team building

flint token
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Ehhh i mean

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All you need are raidian trag and some support en route

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the bigger hurdle here is regular stages and what not

real saddle
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No medic till f4 walahi I'm done

remote badger
copper orchid
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But i wanna just avoid battles

remote badger
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unless ur cooking ed3

nocturne cape
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swire casually deleting fisherman alt

remote badger
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shit

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i haven't raised swirealt

nocturne cape
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its ok

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im certing her tomorrow

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and have to farm trust from 0

remote badger
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even mizook

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too

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at least his ass is at e1 max

scenic saffron
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I should cert mizuki when he's in shop,,

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Missed his shop cuz ain't enough certs

remote badger
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sry hes in kernel

scenic saffron
slate hull
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kernel can still be bought with certs, I think it is often the second yellow cert option

vestal ice
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Is the LeiFaPunishment risk coin worth it?

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The 9 lightning strikes one, how much damage do they do?

sinful sparrow
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its like 400 damage each iirc

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its a very strong coin

wary yacht
sinful sparrow
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i havent seen you for so long

wary yacht
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wtf it’s you

native sky
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holy

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wtf

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my first time having wisadel temp

severe oasis
prime mountain
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Yeah bro draft may clearly

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This is bait

nocturne cape
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just draft wiadel and refresh into hand of rumble

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duh

sick mason
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But it's IS6

brittle grove
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That was sarcastic

trail spear
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Just refresh into bell

native sky
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I don’t see any hand in is6

sinful sparrow
proven dagger
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@cold fjord @halcyon flame

nocturne cape
sinful sparrow
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:mon3trsmug: haii~

proven dagger
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bottom text

trail spear
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First time seeing this whack ass shit

sick mason
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Damn first relic is geist binding rope

wary yacht
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i need to get leifa and that one relic that boosts atk for candleguests via combat

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the numbers you can get in is6 for every operator in your squad are kinda crazy

slate hull
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leifa counts for bells?

sick mason
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Yes

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The bell counts operators promoted into candleguest after combat

trail spear
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Ok im ed2 ready

sick mason
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How many LP do u have :v

trail spear
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Im f2

brittle grove
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Oh u obtained butterfly that early i assume

trail spear
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Yea

native sky
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bro wtf

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U ate my hope

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And went to battle?

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R u fucking serious

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Oh shit

brittle grove
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Thats rare yea, if he is angry or smt. Happen in is5 too

native sky
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This is not the exchange node

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I fucking though is -1 hope for resource

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It’s -1 hope for emergency

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💀

brittle grove
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oh yea actually different nvm

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Different node lmao

prime mountain
grizzled nexus
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Absolute Wisadel Stage uWu

nocturne hare
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Does anyone know the unlock conditions for this tongbao?

slate hull
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get the big bob money borrow encounter, then get another encounter later where you have to repay the money

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I think there is a repay with interest option that gets you that coin

brittle grove
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Oh yea cannot encounter

native sky
brittle grove
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Cannot finally have the good art there

cloud cairn
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its so rare btw

rich tinsel
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got this stage without getting a medic voucher the whole run 🥹

tender chasm
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how to survive thunder on pathfinder battle?

grizzled nexus
sick mason
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Or any healers

main bison
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why do I suck so bad?

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It feels like all of these ops are useless

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and yes, I'm familar with what to do, but no one was really that effective (plus a lot of E1's)

prime mountain
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e1 leizi diesfromcringe

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she wouldve opened at e2

main bison
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I've only had 1 Guard recruit

stray dove
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Cannot Rob F1?

main bison
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S3

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I robbed F1

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this is F5

stray dove
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S2 Wis S2 in Clarity

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S3 is too slow

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and you need the pieces gone asap

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S2 is the best Wis skill for that map

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Wis S2 in this position

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but make sure she has enough damage (the relics in the run)

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and is E2

main bison
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yeah, she was there

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and she died, twice

grizzled nexus
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If I have End of Times and bail out in clarity, will I got the 3rd Ending relic?

stray dove
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do it in another run

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small steps at a time

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until you feel like every map is "solved" or feels normal

stray dove
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cause if i was in your shoes

stray dove
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I'm using EoT on F6 fight

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cause i don't want to lose in potentially Emer Garrison/Inferno

sick mason
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But so far from what I remember that you don't get any resources if you bail out from a fight with EoT

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That was in IS5

stray dove
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oh yeah

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EoT bailing

sick mason
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Like you don't get recruitment vouchers, ingots, tongbaos

stray dove
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= skipping fight

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yeah so you won't get the Cloud and Paint

main bison
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I thought I had a lot of these maps figured out until things don't go as normal

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something's wrong, and I don't know what it is

sick mason
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So using EoT in clarity = no ed3 relic

stray dove
sick mason
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Ed3 run ruined

stray dove
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thats just roguelites in general

stray dove
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we adapt on how good or shitty the run is

main bison
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I have next to no relics

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and coins are always trash

stray dove
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I don't even want to try to tutor you in a stream

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cause i might rage

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have you tried watching others play though?

main bison
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this squad kind of sucks

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I've watched, I've cleared ed3 twice now at the very least

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just bad luck

stray dove
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E2 Raidian, E2 Wis, E1 Geexy, E2 Pure, E1 Ceobe Gummy

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my dude

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i would already be set with those

main bison
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Ceobe?

sinful sparrow
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where got “sucks”

stray dove
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Gummy

sinful sparrow
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wtf

grizzled nexus
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Clarity felt like you also got -50% DP Regen cause the stage starts with 0 DP normally

main bison
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well, when nothing's dying, it sucks

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and the ending 3 relic blows

stray dove
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....YOU USED THAT RISK COIN?

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oh wait you just meant they're leaking

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i thought you were using the risk coin that gives DP when enemy killed

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cause some players here just can't say
E. NONE OF THE ABOVE

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they're too used to getting SOMETHING

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They haven't played a roguelite deckbuilder when sometimes the best move is to not add anything

main bison
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time for Yi

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I don't have a good feeling about this

stray dove
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just do your best and learn

sick mason
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It depends on your atk relics I guess

grizzled nexus
stray dove
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you can absolutely win against Yi with barely any ATK

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as long as you have all the components to permastall

jaunty parrot
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finally popped ed3 d10, 0.5s redeploy cat is so broken

stray dove
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although that means their issue is with F6 fight and Wang fight

sick mason
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Apparitions truly cancerous

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Hope to keep getting poking stick to beat their ass

grizzled nexus
sick mason
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Yes

sick mason
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Any summon triggered Wang's "flaw"

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Or Xia or whatever its called

jaunty parrot
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Just make sure you know how to play go and it'll be fine

main bison
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I hate my life

jaunty parrot
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I have a vertical line going across the screen with ranged ops and the fishes which means they're impossible to be stunned

sick mason
main bison
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time to quit

grizzled nexus
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Still got weirded that Tragodia S3 bound tile summon can be devoured by Pseudomut in Wang battle RedOmegaLul

main bison
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I really want to get this crap done, but I'm really hating it

jaunty parrot
sick mason
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Pseudomuts is truly that enemy

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And once they're airborne, you can't bring them back to the ground

stray dove
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even consumable ones

sick mason
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I really wish Raidian S2 can fire airborne units too

stray dove
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think of it like Wang is playing chess

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you do a move

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he does a move

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simple as that

sick mason
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Okay at least if not all airborne, minimum low-hovering ones

jaunty parrot
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Lord guards found dead in a ditch

stray dove
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and making S2 even more "broken" at least by IS6 standards

sick mason
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S2 can't slow down targets :v

stray dove
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can they, off-skill?

jaunty parrot
sick mason
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Oh yeah apart from that I guess

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I was expecting like S3's slow and arts fragility

stray dove
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cmon now

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you don't want everything be a swiss army knife

jaunty parrot
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I've barely had any situation that wants s3 except for obvious range shill levels

stray dove
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or an all-purpose solution

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that would just give us another Wis...

jaunty parrot
sick mason
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Don't u think Exualt already fell on that category :v

stray dove
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and the ranged tiles are plentiful

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the Babel Guitar and the Papers Please F5 maps

grizzled nexus
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Inner Rage and Ware-User get me using Raidian S3 creatively

stray dove
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are S3 Raidian for me

jaunty parrot
stray dove
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i also do Raidian S3 on Shanhaizong map

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as a good way to kill the stealth users as much as i can before roadblocks disappear

sick mason
jaunty parrot
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I do think the planes could have had 3x4 range, right now it's not very fun to try to chain them

sick mason
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Until Sakiko arrives

grizzled nexus
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With that I discovered that if at least one unit of Raidian S3 Summon is behind Yu S3, it can still deal elemental burn at the end of summon

main bison
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yeah, no

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between the HP loss and SP loss

stray dove
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hilariously

main bison
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I can't really do anything

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ever

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and I hate it

stray dove
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the run either dies with me dying from Yi's mobs

jaunty parrot
sick mason
main bison
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and don't know how to counter any of it

stray dove
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or i wni

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I've never seen Yi leak

empty gulch
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first time ed23

main bison
stray dove
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in my fights

jaunty parrot
main bison
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I had like no Risk Coins what so ever

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intentionally

stray dove
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Ender

sick mason
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No risk coins how

stray dove
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it's not about that

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if you're relying on specific risk coins to carry

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don't

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coins are bonuses

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not the carry

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not when it's easy to NOT get the coin you want tossed in a floor

sick mason
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Bloodshed spill coin being the MVP to assist me D10 ed3 for the first time

stray dove
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thats why i always say

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that ASPD ingot coin'

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isn't gonna be your Chalice

main bison
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I got nothing this entire run

stray dove
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cause that would mean you can retoss that every floor

jaunty parrot
main bison
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do you not understand?

stray dove
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there will always be bad runs

main bison
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I know what Risk Relics are worth, but all I got was garabage

main bison
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the last 8 runs garbage

stray dove
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i use Raidian summons too much

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that i feel like i don't want the -2 deployment limit penalty

sick mason
main bison
sick mason
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And if you don't have relics that add deployment limit, you're kinda f-ed

main bison
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all of it

stray dove
jaunty parrot
main bison
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I know what to do

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and I also know I'm terrible

stray dove
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it's not about what to do

main bison
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but I have nothing good

stray dove
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it's how players DECIDE

main bison
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I know

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but it's not like any video guide tells you what to do

stray dove
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just watch a playthrough

main bison
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what their thought process is etc

stray dove
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NOT a youtube video

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like...

sick mason
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Man I'm so bored waiting for Ato and I don't want to touch my current run now due to 3 def vouchers HellaKek

main bison
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I've watched dozens, I have no idea what I'm watching

stray dove
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if there were Cube videos

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watch em

main bison
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it's useless

stray dove
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jesus you really need a step-by-step tutor while you stream

jaunty parrot
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just spam pause and think

sick mason
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I mean this is what makes Integrated Strategies a true roguelike mode

main bison
stray dove
main bison
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I just go

stray dove
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i'm too used to recovering a bad situation that the pause time aint long

main bison
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go go go

sick mason
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Don't be like Star Rail where they kept shooting themselves on the foot

jaunty parrot
sick mason
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You have struggles in episode 15?

jaunty parrot
stray dove
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to be fair

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the enemy types in ch15 are no joke

split void
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Idk why but, I thought there will always be a bosky at 2F, till now

stray dove
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it's just that my normal content squad

sick mason
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And in episode 16 we'll get a B E A R

stray dove
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is strong enough to make it not feel like an issue

sick mason
stray dove
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i'd restart that run now

sick mason
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Restart when you get to floor 3 man

stray dove
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thats a lot of candles down the drain

sick mason
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Or else you don't get bonus

stray dove
split void
stray dove
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f3 buffs aren't that needed

split void
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Lol

stray dove
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well pray F3 Pathfinder and WiW aligns

jaunty parrot
stray dove
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HAH

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it doesn't feel as difficult

split void
stray dove
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because this exists

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i don't think starting hope perks is as warranted

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even with 6* inflation

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you WILL have your 6* starter

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even in D15-D18

jaunty parrot
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Oh well not in d15

stray dove
jaunty parrot
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Coin squad goated

stray dove
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you do you

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if it works, it works

sick mason
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I like sui regulator squad more meanwhile 👀

stray dove
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why....

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thats the extra candle, right?

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it's not too big of a value in my eyes

sick mason
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No that's tianshi bureau

stray dove
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oh

sick mason
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Sui regulator = more conserve voucher limit

stray dove
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the extra vouchers

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yeah thats fine

sick mason
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And one voucher per floor

stray dove
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i don't value it as much either

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i'm too used to 0/4

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as my default

jaunty parrot
stray dove
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that it no longer feels hindering

sick mason
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Nowadays I run lots of def/support squad

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Just for fun

jaunty parrot
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even if it's just cats all the way down

sick mason
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Because I already maxxed Raidian anyway

stray dove
main bison
stray dove
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cause i can drop a LOT more

main bison
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already starting a run this terrible

stray dove
sick mason
stray dove
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you win, that's good enough

main bison
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I leaked 1 earlier today

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so yeah, that's easily the absolute worst rob ever

sick mason
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But it was more than worth it DocSmile

stray dove
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just keep playing Ender. Maybe soon, you will grind and grind till you're so used to "recovering" from situations beyond your control

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that really is how you get better in AK

main bison
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like I don't want either of these

stray dove
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as a whole

main bison
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they're both garabage

stray dove
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skip them then

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learn that not everything given to you is good

main bison
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that's just the luck I have

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this was worth though

sick mason
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Hey at least you get something gud

stray dove
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thats really good enough to make the next few floors comfortable

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hunt for more DPS relics

sick mason
#

Raidian's summons gonna be extremely busted

stray dove
#

btw Ender

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my preferences with Special Squad is

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Wis start

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if you want to change your pace, you might want to try that

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some think it's worse than Geexu with Raidian

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but i have my preference on how early floors go

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Wis S2 is also better in Cannot Rob F1

jaunty parrot
#

I have never seen anyone call exu2 geexu

main bison
#

I started with Raidian/Geexu

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I haven't either TBH

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I usually start with Exalter

stray dove
#

Exalter is confusing, Ender

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that could also apply to Fedex

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Executor and Exu having alters is just needed to have a more unique nickname to differentiate them

round trellis
main bison
#

yeah, S1

round trellis
#

f1 shop rob wants s1

main bison
#

I'm generally not even a fan of that subclass

stray dove
#

Geexu is all me though

main bison
#

well, I just recruited the wrong Guard

stray dove
#

i came up with that nickname

sick mason
#

Pretty funny for FedEx to not able to hit air despite using shotgun

stray dove
#

tell that to Rosmontis

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don't think about ingame aesthetics or subclasses

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theyre just formalities

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and not logical

sick mason
#

Aiming pillar from above eh RosThink

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And there's Wisadel that broke the rules by making S3 can target everything

stray dove
#

tell that to Mlynar S3

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Wis wasn't the first one to disobey targeting changes in skill

sick mason
#

Gigachad uncle with his incredible swordsmanship capability

jaunty parrot
sick mason
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And doesn't have his range restricted like Leizi2 S2 🏃

stray dove
#

Cant relate. Dont have Lazer

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So far Cube and the other sweatlords' advise if an operator is a must have or not is on point

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Makes sense

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Some of them do relicless

nocturne cape
#

Ya know

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I kinda take sweatlord as a word with negative connotation

stray dove
#

Sweaty just means you really grind and work hard in your gameplay

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And it kinda doesnt help when some do the absolute masochistic routes ever

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I wanted to go with "regulars" but that doesnt categorize those with great skill since i regularly visit here when IS updates are recent

split void
#

Why the Ge ?

severe oasis
#

somehow managed to do ed2 with only e1 exu as my dps

stray dove
stray dove
main bison
stray dove
#

Stir Fry

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i am not trusting you

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in stacking Bells

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cause that's a challenge even for me

main bison
#

bro

round trellis
#

aspd coin + cum chalice runs are the funniest

ionic cradle
# main bison

For a flower FiresFromSoil still feels like it's secretly a Bal coin...

stray dove
stray dove
# main bison

there's no such thing as forever unlucky. You only feel it if you don't continue trying.

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just learn from a failed run and start again

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and IS6 has a lot of good relics and coins to make a run strong

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imo a lot more than no-Lamp IS5

main bison
#

thanks GPG

stray dove
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do you play other gachas?

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since i only play AK

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i just use MuMu player

oak birch
#

what's the best ops to use for robbing cannot in f1 Bnuuy

stray dove
#

the bare minimum for a smooth time

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E1 Raidian S1 and E1 Humus S1

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the others are bonuses

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Humus can be changed for stronger DPS

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as long as they can solve 2 lanes

main bison
#

I hate other emulators

stray dove
#

Raidian S1 is a must though

main bison
#

but I'm using Mumu

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I need HP, this a good idea?

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or just take the shield?

stray dove
#

SHIELD

main bison
#

I lost 12HP on Yi alone, and that was with ASPD coin

stray dove
#

think of the pros and cons

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the map will always be hard

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and you might lose more LP/shield from that

main bison
stray dove
#

sure you can kill furniture and talismans like no business

main bison
#

never done this one before

stray dove
#

but you ain't killing the tankiest enemies

stray dove
main bison
#

no

stray dove
#

that fire splash damage in cardinal directions if they see you

main bison
#

nope?

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I don't know what those are

stray dove
#

hmmm, Lapptop

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you migth have a decent crutch

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at solving the idle enemies with her

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one tip

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see those columns?

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they hide you from the Lucent enemies

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think of it like

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Lucent enemies

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can see like a Rook piece in chess

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and those columns hide you

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those columns can die

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if shot enough

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so be careful

ionic cradle
split void
stray dove
#

lets not make the run harder for him right now

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not when the run's good

ionic cradle
#

oh damn

stray dove
#

@main bison since you reached F6, how's Clarity?

#

and Wis S2?

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oh wait

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no Wis

#

don't bother answering that question

#

Lazer and Ascalon would've solved the start from what i can see

main bison
#

I dunno how I did that

#

I don't have Wisadel

#

I got a Medic, kind of useless before the boss, no?

split void
stray dove
#

the issue is

#

you don't know what's making you strong

#

you need to learn which relics or which coins are carrying you

#

and learn to get them in the future if given the chance

split void
#

I am freaking love the Dream cursio coin

stray dove
#

well yeah

#

it's AFK gaming

#

fucking peak

main bison
#

this is working somehow

stray dove
#

like i said

split void
#

Nice

stray dove
#

your relics, your coins, your floor debuffs

#

they've aligned for a smooth run

#

thats one of your issues, Ender

#

you don't realize why a run is good or bad

#

you just assume bad luck = bad run

main bison
stray dove
#

when on the contrary, you win, and don't even know why you're winning

main bison
#

well, that run wasn't great, but I pulled it off

stray dove
#

MY DUDE

main bison
#

I'm aware of what relics are generally good etc

stray dove
#

RUN WAS GOOD

#

even you can't fuck up a martial fight, stove alight, stirfry run

main bison
#

oh you can most certainly can

stray dove
#

wow the run is literally not making you lose as much as it can

#

it gave you Rhine relic

#

and Vampire bed

#

maybe future runs, your Cannot robbing might not be as bad in leaks

#

that you can use some of that LP on F2 WiW Ji shop

#

also how do you do Rob Cannot?

#

do you just immediately rob him?

main bison
#

F1

stray dove
#

no what do you do

#

when you enter his shop

main bison
#

I used to average about 3 HP loss

#

oh, depends on what he's got to offer, I might refresh

stray dove
#

and what do you do before that refresh?

#

ok so.....i think i get the gist

main bison
#

what do you mean?

stray dove
#

on how to make you improve more

#

so....

#

F1....2 fights

main bison
#

sometimes 1

stray dove
#

decent amt of starting ingots and fight drops

stray dove
main bison
#

depends on how the map is laid out

stray dove
#

just restart that run by that point

main bison
#

I'm not choosing only 1

stray dove
#

i know that

main bison
#

but I'd rather not lose that F3 bonus

stray dove
#

but there are situations

#

where you're forced to literally do 1 fight

#

and Ender....F3 bonuses mean jackshit

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wanna know why?

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here's a tip on how to get easy F3 bonus

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Leader Squad

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EoT first fight, do only 1 fight pathing so its fast

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get to F1 WiW

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visit it

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leave immediately

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go to F2

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then quit

#

BOOM

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F3 buff

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why? Game counted F1 WiW visit as a floor

main bison
#

well, the goal is all squads all endings, but ok

stray dove
#

what i meant is

#

do not value those things enough

#

that you wouldn't restart a shit F1 layout

main bison
#

I almost reset that run

#

so...

stray dove
#

just cause "F3 buff too good"

#

Ender, i've been doing a lot of F2 quit outs recently

#

just to get a rare floor debuff

#

you wouldn't believe how many times i saw

#

Chalice and Stirfry in cannot shop

main bison
#

I haven't

stray dove
#

do not overvalue a run

#

it just means you've not done enough

main bison
#

I still haven't even invested 500 ingots yet

stray dove
#

my god just do it

main bison
#

heck, I'm only at 199

split void
stray dove
#

no wonder your shop value's low

#

you don't evne have all of Cannot's shop slots

#

to rob more

main bison
#

it's not like I have a ton of time to do so...

#

still takes forever to invest

stray dove
#

get as strong as you can first

#

before doing your most serious runs

#

thats all I'm saying

split void
#

I don't get the Cannot mask, when should I buy it ?

stray dove
#

wth is a cannot mask?

#

you mean his relic?

split void
#

Isn't his shop relic ?

main bison
#

Cannots Mark

#

where you get Hope when you buy from the shop

stray dove
#

just do Leader Squad, use EoT on the only fight of 1 combat path

#

and invest

split void
#

Oh Mark

stray dove
#

quit out

#

do it again

split void
stray dove
#

you really shouldn't sleep on this

#

this could've been a Drum or Stirfry

#

that you lost cause you're lacking shop slots

#

ok so another tip, Ender

#

1st shop spread of Cannot

#

BUY THE BEST SHIT THERE

#

REFRESH

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THEN ROB THE 2ND SPREAD

split void
#

Oh . so cannot's Mark just to stack faster

stray dove
#

best value for F1

main bison
#

yeah, I get that

split void
#

Suddenly I can read

#

Sorry

main bison
#

but most of the relics feel like garbage

split void
stray dove
#

do you even know some of them are actual DPS relics?

main bison
#

yes

stray dove
#

like at least i hope you know this could carry

main bison
#

you act like I've never done IS before

stray dove
#

Ender, i wish that was the case because i felt like you just reset to 0 with no experience after each IS

#

with how you play it

split void
stray dove
#

I already believe that you hate IS in general

split void
stray dove
#

because you hate every IS you play

main bison
#

I hate it, but I still do it

stray dove
#

thats what i meant....why

#

just for a complete Raidian?

#

just for milestone rewards?

#

there are easier ways for those but you still do D12 for some reason

main bison
#

d12 for the icons

stray dove
#

oh god your common interest is fighting against one another

#

you're a completionist that hates that content that needs completing

main bison
#

I'm lazy and don't have a lot of extra time, what can I say?

stray dove
#

not a lot of time is a phrase that makes no sense for completionists

#

at least with how i complete games, a lot of time tends to burn

main bison
#

that's part of the reason why I'm not sure I'll play Endfield

#

I've got a family that's a little more important

stray dove
#

good for you

#

good priorities

main bison
split void
#

Hard to choose here

charred raptor
#

question, I am saving my first guard rec for pathfinder (insta promoted) but will upgrading/E2ing guard ops 'consume' this?

split void
#

I don't get it

#

You are out of saving slots there

#

4/4

#

There are only choosing OP there

charred raptor
#

no I mean I have other guard voucher conserved.

#

if I use one here for promoting, will it keep the insta promo from first recruit from the vg/guard squad is my question basically

errant siren
charred raptor
#

nope, this is on f1 shop

errant siren
#

Or I don't get it something

split void
#

Nope 4/4 there

#

I don't get your question tho LappDumb

#

There are only one insta promote from entire run iirc

charred raptor
#
  1. you can insta promote your first vg/guard with this squad
  2. you can 'skip' this on initial recruitment if you use support ops instead (doc here)
#

I am saving this insta promote for later basically, with my conserved voucher. Just not sure if promoting stuff 'consume' this insta promote

nocturne cape
split void
#

Oh now I get your question
||But Idk the answer LappDumb ||

charred raptor
split void
#

Maybe tried it yourself

stray dove
#

i think that's why i prefer Wis S2 with Raidian as subbing for Humus

#

if i were to sub Humus with a more expensive operator, they need to contribute better than him in Cannot fight

sonic sable
stray dove
#

Mortal is insurance. Sand shield is proactivity

sonic sable
#

Wait do we get the expansion too with hoshi alter?

stray dove
#

proactive solutions are better than fixes

sonic sable
#

Sand shield very good in ed3

stray dove
#

not even close

sonic sable
#

Bruh

#

Sad

stray dove
#

you don't tank as much in Ed3

#

unless you're talking about Cloud & Paint debuff

sonic sable
#

I wonder if hoshi can open clarity and ed3

stray dove
#

she can

#

with that S3 range

#

she can

sonic sable
#

Ppl were comparing her to ulpipi and surtr in reddit which I think is pretty weird comparison

sonic sable
sonic sable
#

It's like texas s2 range

main bison
stray dove
#

just because you can deactivte her S3 doesn't mean you should treat her like Surtr

#

as for Ulp....sigh

#

these guys don't know roles when they see em. Although i can see why they'd compare the two

#

just pure tankiness

#

but ehhh

split void
sonic sable
#

Surtr hospital wtf

stray dove
#

you didn't see the bottom

sonic sable
split void
stray dove
#

this, is something i want to share

#

as to not-deactivated S3

#

people just think deactivate S3, treat her like Surtr

#

zero imagination players

sonic sable
stray dove
#

does it really matter?
CN players used her in IS6 without module back then

#

Logos is already exceptional nuke DPS

#

anything close or lower is already good

sonic sable
#

Ya like just wanna know the dmg difference

stray dove
#

a lot

#

the module really makes her absurd

#

she's the go-to arts nuke now

#

in CN

dim oar
#

Surtr need a alt

stray dove
#

no she doesn't

#

she's in Endfield

#

Eyja getting a lot of love though

#

Eyja Meyja, and now Endfield Eyja

#

Actually correction

#

iirc even pre-module

#

Hoshitter was still the go-to arts nuke

dim oar
#

Maybe we should have talulah, it have been overdue

stray dove
#

whoever thinks AK roster needs Tal

arctic breach
#

Can we agree that this is one of the worst debuffs?

stray dove
#

don't care about character storylines

#

I'd rather Tal not be an operator

nocturne cape
#

Shen-Chu feels way worse

stray dove
#

given what hell she's already experienced and how she's already trying to fix shit

arctic breach
#

At least it doesn't apply to summons

dim oar
#

That elubana also become ops

nocturne cape
#

Cmon weve sit through the IS5 bullshit

#

+4 dp is not that vad

sinful sparrow
stray dove
#

Shu's and Nian's Hour combo

#

is rough

nocturne cape
#

Gotta love the +3+3+2+5 IS5 combo

sinful sparrow
#

commerce is a funny epoch

nocturne cape
arctic breach
#

Urg I don't want to remember that

stray dove
main bison
#

oh, they changed it

stray dove
#

yeah don't bother

nocturne cape
#

Yep cannot’s mark is pretty bad

sinful sparrow
#

🥀

stray dove
#

it's for people who don't like F1 restart investment spam

#

which is...ngl, masochistic

nocturne cape
#

Its leizi left

sinful sparrow
#

“its for people eho don’t like F1 investment spam”

#

ok where do i get
This relic every run

nocturne cape
#

Ente S3 for some damage

sinful sparrow
stray dove
#

all my wins giving me +5 here beyond the 500....
and it'll get even higher with Expansion 1 due to +5 -> +15

gaunt bay
#

are you excited

dim oar
#

I hope we have seed map then can visit Ling

stray dove
sinful sparrow
#

ok but why would you do ling loop more than once

#

its so piss boring

stray dove
#

it's already boring to do Nian Desire grinding

#

Ling looping must be fucking pure cookie clicker boring

dim oar
sick mason
#

Spending ingots with Nian felt bruh

stray dove
dim oar
stray dove
sick mason
#

Gonna fill it up soon HellaKek

sonic sable
#

Who's the starter for defender supporter post hoshi? E1 raidian?

stray dove
#

of course

#

like that ever changed

gaunt bay
#

hoshi e1 sucks

stray dove
#

Hoshi's best skill is S3

nocturne cape
#

Hi kiwi

stray dove
#

so she ain't a good E1

sick mason
#

I wonder what requirements would come for Raidian second module

nocturne cape
#

Alarm set

stray dove
sick mason
#

Jeez now I see why it's more OP than the first

#

She can have so much atk

stray dove
gaunt bay
#

cant wait

stray dove
#

there's not much value in making Raidian be stronger when you'd rather her be safe while summons do the work