is-station

[raw hemlock]

who else in my current roster would be yan ops? I've got Raidian, Leizi2, Purestream, Podenco, Canta, and Mizuki recruited on this run

I wanna try and get that doubt node cleared by the time I reach f5 again

[vagrant burrow]

you could check the list of yan ops image

you have leizi2 and purestream rn

[raw hemlock]

where's the image, I'm kinda multitasking rn (playing minecraft with my bf)

[vagrant burrow]

here’s the one i use, don’t include chen the holungday

[faint rampart]

wasnt blazealt sus too or something

[slate hull]

yeah, blaze alt also needs to be fixed

[raw hemlock]

blaze alt's the only version of blaze I have :(

btw should I get anything in this trader node?

[slate hull]

execution is a raw aspd buff for all specialists, goes really hard on exu alter

[ivory badge]

Ok I got to Wang again and this is what I've got

Got smoked the first time but I've got more healers now

Anything I should change?

[drowsy breach]

good start<3

[raw hemlock]

who I don't have

[drowsy breach]

Is this coin worth it?

probably... certainly on later stages right?

[stray dove]

just a worse version of the off-rec coin

wait no

off-rec coin turns off any auto rec possible

just a mild version of off-rec coin

it does mean it is mostly shit on Turmoils with few enemies

[drowsy breach]

Im gonna try it, should only need one enemy killed every 20s to make it break even

[vagrant burrow]

if you have any amount of starting dp and competent stage-opening ops it’s basically infinite dp

[raw hemlock]

hm... take godblessed coin from the fireworks encounter (lose all my ingots) or ditch the coin?

[wanton rose]

toss coin to chance it

[stray dove]

the consideration is

it's not about ROI

it's about making your opening worse

how can you kill efficiently when you drop ops slower

and for some Turmoils

immediate leaks for that situation

that does remind me

in my forced travel to an encounter node just to get to a WiW/Pathfinder

I got Bob Cert

Bob Cert has to be one of the better relics

since high amt of ingots you can't use

means you got the best initial +DP relic ever

[raw hemlock]

even if I'm losing 24 ingots for it?

[wanton rose]

ehat

isn't there a toss coin option

[stray dove]

there is......it's not free after the first

[raw hemlock]

the encounter is "lose all your ingots, or leave"

[stray dove]

and there's a chance

you will always toss tails

3 or more times in a row

[raw hemlock]

what're we talking about here, I was asking about getting a coin at the cost of 24 ingots

[wanton rose]

firework encounter

[faint rampart]

[wanton rose]

we know

[stray dove]

oh that. Ehhh, not worth wasting ingots on that coin

i just leave in encounter or chance it if it appears in legend

[wanton rose]

yea just leave if there's no option to toss coin

[raw hemlock]

k

[stray dove]

iirc that's Godblessed?

[wanton rose]

oh toss coin is legend only?

[stray dove]

yeah

Godblessed is only worthwhile for newer players

[wanton rose]

neat

[stray dove]

that want to have more operators to play as

[raw hemlock]

I'm on d4 at floor 3 so

[stray dove]

free 6* temp operator recruits for an entire floor it's flipped

up to you

[wanton rose]

random 6* is meh anyway

[stray dove]

btw

[faint rampart]

wow that sounds fun

[stray dove]

Godblessed is a SPECIFIC voucher

[faint rampart]

i thought it only gave once

[stray dove]

it's not a class voucher

you will be ruining your actual recruiting for it

it really is purely for those who want to play some temp ops they might not have

[wanton rose]

mostly godbless is for replacing starting risk coins :ya:

[stray dove]

just like any coin that turns into Dayan later

its effect is present the entire floor it's tossed

until a re-toss happens

whether it's inside WiW (Turmoil clears)

[raw hemlock]

only 6* temp recruit I'd want is exu2

[stray dove]

or in actual floors

[wanton rose]

yea good luck getting exu2 from 113 6* lmao

[raw hemlock]

she didn't like me enough on her banner ;-;

[stray dove]

thats why it's only recommended

for fun

for those that just want to play some other ops

[faint rampart]

she likes you now trust

[raw hemlock]

🥺

[stray dove]

these came from Godblessed

and I didn't bring every Godblessed ops in this fight

also i see Quartz is candled and so is Kal. High chance this was also a Bells run

cause I only candle Quartz purely to make Pathfinder fights easier

[wanton rose]

kal pepe on godblessed

pretty decent

[stray dove]

there's a lot more that you're not seeing

oh yeah Hoed....

I also remember maybe Blem?

AK has a lot of 6*

[wanton rose]

🚮

[stray dove]

there will be a lot of misses

one thing's for sure

Godblessed Hoed

helped stack Bells

[wanton rose]

113 6* apparently

[stray dove]

either way, just make sure what you're in for when taking Godblessed

cause it will ruin your future voucher drops

cause the Godblessed vouchers only have 1 operator inside of it

[desert brook]

i thought 2/7 risk coin was good enough

[stray dove]

and you don't get to pick

[desert brook]

oh wait, its 2/9

[stray dove]

like i said

[desert brook]

oopsies

[stray dove]

if there's a chance you can toss tails 3 times in a row

you will

if you can proc a 6* in a banner

you can proc a bad coin toss easily

[ivory badge]

It's..... Beautiful

[errant siren]

Bait the leg
Damage the leg
Win

[split void]

Hard to choose

[lost anchor]

HMMM

[wanton rose]

godblessed moment

[arctic panther]

thorns upscale

[faint rampart]

wish that was me

[ivory badge]

Thornsmaxxing

Tin Man talent numbers are also funny to look at lol

Just a cloud of damage numbers

[split void]

It is just one random 6*. From tongbao

I got a Hoshi, and Bagpipe last time

Not that lucky tho

Can my OP use skills ?

[raw hemlock]

amazinggggggg

floor 3 boss
only have one non-reserve ground unit that can block without using skill (not counting Raidian's summons or leizi2 cuz she floats)
it's the one with the fishing guy
a ton of enemies leak
3/11 life points left and no objective shields
floor 4 starting nodes are Exemplary Service (WILL leak like crazy with my current squad) or Cultured (will ALSO leak like crazy with my current squad)

i'm just gonna let the level kill me

I need to restart the run anyway with how bad it's gone so far

[arctic panther]

winnable

[raw hemlock]

it was not.

not with the guys that turn into 4 enemies you gotta hit 30 times to take down

especially with no e2 ops AT ALL.

[stray dove]

if you weren't already killing his ass so hard, that cornered S2 summon would've berserked Wang into a dangerous status

[ivory badge]

he has an enrage state?

the Raidian summon top right would have done that?

honestly one of the great things about alch units is that they work while the ops are stunned so even if there are black pieces as long as they throw alch units down they'll get destroyed

[arctic panther]

when he captures an op

or any allied unit minus the reserve caster at the stary

start

[ivory badge]

what does it do?

increases his damage?

[cedar ivy]

Welp, just confirmed an error

You need a REGULAR run on sparkling shine to unlock the item

Not the emergency version

Weird that they typed that in

[arctic panther]

and attack speed

• it makes him summon more balls (i think)

[ivory badge]

honestly not sure if that would be a problem here unless he can one shot my units

I had a lot of max hp and a ton of healing lol

[sick mason]

Ah yes that looks very convincing

[ivory badge]

I think the enrage was what killed me the first time I fought him though

was doing fine until he suddenly got steroids

[cedar ivy]

I think it's the instantly kill summons that does it

[sick mason]

.... Damn

[raw hemlock]

whoa

[desert brook]

50 ingots robbed lmao

[sick mason]

I lost 70 in total

Because of Nian node too

[stray dove]

just take it

it's worth it

there's so many apparition enemies in IS6

[cedar ivy]

1 hour of sui left

[stray dove]

not having luck with this one

this is the only thing i need

[cedar ivy]

If I run ed3, thats a 1/11, 1/10, then 1/9 chance

Around 27% chance each run

[stray dove]

oh just the normal hours

i was hunting the rare ones

the ones most people would never see

[cedar ivy]

There's rare hours?

Is that in the expansion or something?

[latent radish]

And done. Back to the lower difficulties.

[faint rampart]

time to go higher :ggnod:

[split void]

Just another inch higher

Or floor

1st time playing this stage

Don't have medic and guardian

[sick mason]

... What's up with the Hoshi recruit

[split void]

Still this run

[faint rampart]

oof

[split void]

Maybe that tongbao is bad

[split void]

And here you wish

[faint rampart]

you get to gacha with temp rec in a gacha game

[sick mason]

Just another day in IS

[split void]

So after this stage, the ed3 stage open

Any more specific debuff node ? Or I just go and find best node ?

[stray dove]

it's present right now

2 of them

like IS4.....annoyingly

this is 1 of the 2

this is the last thing I'm after

1% sleep on enemies iirc

[faint rampart]

uh oh ur first time huh

wait nvm you mentioned it

wang is on f6,
the f6 stages can be a bit problematic...
dont forget to bring heals

[stray dove]

oh you really need heals

if you successfully got past Clarity

then you would've died due to lack of heals

due to the Wang route relic you would've gotten in Clarity clear

if you felt like you needed healing in Ed2, you will feel it a lot more in Ed3

[split void]

Dang. So I have to deal with Yi 1st

Perfect

[stray dove]

or Sui foot

[split void]

Ofc I don't open that

[stray dove]

i wouldn't say no to people who do a route 2->3

Red, it's just pattern. Since when did an Ed3 not have Floor 6?

[faint rampart]

you have exu trag raidian, should be fine considering you got this far

[stray dove]

if you felt like Yi was too easy. Making you need healers on your openers change it just a tad

and anyone who drops to nuke Yi

won't last too long

[split void]

1HP left here

Well still got some nodes left till Yi

I will see what I can do later

[stray dove]

i am so curious

what the CN players

who did the very first IS6 Ed3 routing felt or reacted

after not only seeing 2 debuff relics from Wang's route

but then kick out any un-candled operator in Wang's F6 Prophecy

[ivory badge]

despair

[faint rampart]

https://youtu.be/iXXqCCl8Buk?si=_OtQaLxXzKRvZ2PV
might help or something idk

[stray dove]

i always thought Smartys from WR had potential to be really hilariously toxic if applied in a freer state

and Yi took that job years later

last time Smartys felt real threatening was in CC7

now he created Liangs, the superior Smartys

[split void]

We wisadel them, they Liang us

[stray dove]

hilariously

I've learned to use the cat more

[cedar ivy]

Ahh, i was wondering which of these was the forgotten sister

[sinful sparrow]

back to raidianless karlan trade comp

[stray dove]

on misaligning the Liangs

because

[sinful sparrow]

:YA:

[stray dove]

misaligning them explodes weaker

than if the 2 mismatched colors meet

[cedar ivy]

And im guessing Yu is the beneficial one because he never used his powers

[stray dove]

yeah he's the 2-4 Yan requirement Doubt that gives you a floor buff you can barely use

I'm missing the tenth

[paper kayak]

my wishlist for expansion 2 is just good ed5, yu appearance, and some stupid bean collectable thats incredibly overpowered

if we go an entire IS themed around the Sui without a single bean joke I will be very sad

[stray dove]

weird wishes...

[stray dove]

go to Endfield

there's your future beans

[paper kayak]

yes we have future beans and present beans but what about past beans

[stray dove]

Shu's hour is actually one of the worst

[cedar ivy]

With how weird the water drinking encounter is, i wouldn't be surprised with beans

[stray dove]

this is worse than lvl 2 Baro imo

[cedar ivy]

Yeah shu is awful. Killed all my runs

[paper kayak]

the worst one is talismans spawning on your ops on deployment imo

[stray dove]

and Nian's Hour stat buffs most of the enemies in IS6

[stray dove]

nope

for sweatlords

[cedar ivy]

Talisman also killed a lot of my runs, but I can still cantabile it

[stray dove]

they already had talisman solutions

for them the most difficult combo is

These 2

[burnt lantern]

Hey2, i heard when Hoshi2 is released, Defender & Supporter will be the best recommended starter for IS6.

But honestly i dont really see Hoshi2 a better pick than Exu2, am i missing something here?

[stray dove]

hilariously....getting this in Floor 2 can really shit on your run since you do visit a LOT of non-combat nodes in WiW

by killing your hope economy

[cedar ivy]

Im still salty on the hope loss hour killing my candle recruiting

[stray dove]

in other words

10% to lose 1 hope

every time

and you wouldn't believe how many tails you can toss

[stray dove]

it's already one of the better ones

you can win without Geexu

and even then

using DefSupp doesn't make you not get other class vouchers

just less of it

but Def has Hoshitter and Gummy, and Supp has Raidian, Trag, Ange, Haruka

if i had more hope, I'd also get Shu

maybe just get a couple of Sniper for Wis, and a couple of Spec for Geexu if you're lucky

[cedar ivy]

If I pull hoshi, I'll consider getting off the exu paintrain

[stray dove]

no need to get off of it

just use em all if you want

only in IS

where you don't need supporting operators or buffers

[cedar ivy]

Nah i do. Because i never get freakin spec vouchers aaaaa

[stray dove]

cause relics carry that job

so the more DPS the better

[cedar ivy]

I tried shaw in the cliff stage too. That was a lot of extra cash

[burnt lantern]

I mean, since its just for starter squad, in what scenario Hoshi2 (+Raidian) is better than (e.g.) Exu2 + Raidian

Or maybe, its just an opinion of some dudes, not a concensus, not sure

[stray dove]

I mean

one thing's for sure

[cedar ivy]

Exu2 gets distracted by talismans a lot on floor 1, so she's really more an investment for early sui realm fights. I'll have to see if hoshi can destroy statues faster

[faint rampart]

oh wow 3rd red

[stray dove]

you wouldn't go Hoshi2 starter

you do starter on carries

where their best skill is S2

and not locked behind E2

i mean you can

but it will be harder

but since Raidian is already the most common starter

anything with her as secondary DPS can just be anyone you prefer

[burnt lantern]

I see, both explanation makes sense. Hoshi2 main skill in IS6 is?

[stray dove]

S3

always in S3

anything that ain't Hoshi2 S3 is because she can't use it

[burnt lantern]

Honestly i never draft 5 or 6 star defender in IS6... max i recruit is gummy & cuora. Thus, its bit weird to force Hoshi2 into the squad

[stray dove]

that just means you've played ISs a bit later

cause one thing's for sure

[sick mason]

Chenchen

[stray dove]

IS3 on release was commonly using Horn

cause ground operators with long range and solid DPS was rare

and IS3 was all about killing from afar

[cedar ivy]

I pulled horn really late

Which left me with goldenglow for a really long time, and is3 has a ton of hp and res

[stray dove]

hah! even with old statistics being poisoned by new ops or people who use newer ops, Horn can't be removed that easily

Mudrock though....those must've been low diff

Mudrock was useless in high diff IS3

[sacred niche]

what r best starter combos pre ato?

[stray dove]

Raidian Humus Mamiya/Pure for me

Those can rob Cannot F1 without any additional help and in E1

I dont think ATO will change starters much

Raidian is too strong

[sacred niche]

waht squad u go with this?

[stray dove]

Any

Thats what makes it good

Those 3 are just a voucher combo

Any squad can use em

[sacred niche]

hmm. with this i can go squads ither than sp squad and hope decrease ones

[stray dove]

Indeed

Humus is just there mostly to help Cannot Rob and all F1 combats. Past that point he mostly doesnt get dropped unless for emergencies

[sacred niche]

any humus alternatives?

[stray dove]

Any that can attack 2 lanes well or anything of higher rarity

Other Reapers is fine

[sacred niche]

and why is it reccomended to rob cannor at fl 1
i do it almost every time but idk why

[stray dove]

Cause no point visiting him past F1

[cedar ivy]

Its easy to ignore shop in this is

[sacred niche]

ethan should do, no?

ohk

[stray dove]

You can....but youre gonna leak a lot

Ethan barely damages the mobs

[cedar ivy]

In early floors, being able to block is important

[stray dove]

Humus doesnt block in middle lane

It just that he's cheap and kills 2 lanes of enemies that Raidian S1 blocks

[sacred niche]

then there isnt a gud alternative to humus

[stray dove]

There is

[sinful sparrow]

@nocturne cape do you know if hoshi e1 can cook e. to market

i just expldoed to that shit earlier

[stray dove]

With more hope

For example

[cedar ivy]

Humus is just the cheapest

[sacred niche]

i mean at rarity 4

[stray dove]

Special Squad means free Raidian

[sinful sparrow]

stun crossbow stunned my hoshi and then i leak 20 dogs

[stray dove]

So i get E1 Wis

[sinful sparrow]

Excelent

[stray dove]

Wis s2 solves lane dps

Wis, Ethan, Beanstalk/Myrtle as my choice with Special Squad

Cause Raidian free

[sacred niche]

with that coffer squad and 7 hope i can get raidian for 2 , pure for 0, 5 hope left

[sick mason]

Ugh I hate getting Wei-Chien while doing ed3

[sacred niche]

lots of options now

got it
thx

[stray dove]

Btw dont be scared to leak a lot

As long as you didnt die

Thats successful robbing

Buy stuff from first batch of shop
Refresh the stocks
Rob the 2nd batch

Thats the best value you can do in F1

[raw hemlock]

new d4 run (likely staying with ed1 till I can clear d5, then practicing ed2 and more on lower difficulties)
I'm at the wish node on f2, do I take flawless jadestone or the string puppet? I'd do the third option but I only have one flower coin

[sinful sparrow]

take jadestone

and then spend ingots in bosky

[stray dove]

Would ingots help your run? It might help some Doubt requirements so maybe

Puppet doesnt matter too much for me

And ingots later can be Nian Desire food

[sinful sparrow]

regardless whether you’ve robbed or not
ingots are valuable because of bosky

[stray dove]

If no ASPD relic/coin

i can only fathom that the reason Tex2 is even winning here is because not a lot of players have Ya2

[raw hemlock]

at d4 with 84 ingots invested TOTAL? nah, can't rob

[stray dove]

invest, buy, refresh, and then rob

although i do tend to just do throwaway runs to do purely investing

once i unlock D12 of any IS

[raw hemlock]

f3 pathfinder node(immediately followed by bocky node) is behind the feng shui battle

same amount of fear I hold toward Exemplary Service

(run-killer on past attempts)

[tacit oyster]

For IS6, Should I go to safe house or to the regular combat node?

[stray dove]

Stop fearing Feng Shui

[sacred niche]

cant get 6* w/o kettle with squads other than support squad/hope decrease ones
now ik why humus gud for this

[sinful sparrow]

feng shui is trivial bruh

go draft stuffs around it

[stray dove]

just do this roadblock for longest pathing.
You can do other roadblock layouts but you need to know what you're doing

cause other roadblock layouts are very unsafe

[nocturne cape]

You might leak but how did you explode

[sinful sparrow]

Crossbowmen stunned Hoshi

And 200 dogs leaked

[stray dove]

my dude

there's only 1 reason that happened

[faint rampart]

omg tex mention

[stray dove]

nothing else was taking that crossbow

i really can't say how you should solve that map without Raidian

but if you're Raidianless

you either chose to be

[ivory badge]

I love this IS because I have a bunch of DoT units built lol

[stray dove]

or are at low diff

[sinful sparrow]

brother i have 1 singular ground unit and click/may are on cooldown

[stray dove]

yeah....Raidianless

either way, thats fine.

at least you know what should be dying first

emer does add those stealth stun crossbowmen

[nocturne cape]

Did you like

Actually died

Cuz leaking to market is common behavior

[stray dove]

they didnt say they did

just leak a lot

and hyperbolize

[nocturne cape]

EM is around -3 for me

[ivory badge]

Exemplary service is more of a pain if you don't have enough hit count

[nocturne cape]

And i really dont know what could go wrong

[stray dove]

I will allow Cube to help anyone that does things Raidianless

[nocturne cape]

Where did you put your hoshi

[stray dove]

cause i have no experience on that

[sinful sparrow]

corner left

i think you’re supposed to place hoshi near bluebox now that i think about it

[stray dove]

hide her a bit

[nocturne cape]

I usually put her next to the platforms

Try that ig

Ive never had her stunned

[stray dove]

like don't ever let anyone be on corners

when enemies target via cardinal directions

like a Rook chess piece

[sinful sparrow]

what are you running

hoshi click may, then where do you place

[sinful sparrow]

who does bro think he is

[stray dove]

i'd rather they have a better opener trio

[nocturne cape]

All emergent bro

There is no such thing as a hoshi playlist

[sinful sparrow]

that he “allows” or doesn’t allow X to help on Y

[stray dove]

someone who keeps Cube not too overwhelmed with questions

[sinful sparrow]

nah i just wanna see wherr you place this nerd in that map

[nocturne cape]

Uhh

[stray dove]

i'm just the small guy before anyone reaches the sweatlords

[nocturne cape]

Hoshi can lanehold fine so i usually have click and may start working on the idle enemies

Instead of helping hoshi

Ig

[sinful sparrow]

mhm sure ok

[nocturne cape]

I think its common to leak some f1 stages if you start e1

And hoshi is already the better starter of the rest

[raw cypress]

Which is we talking ?

[nocturne cape]

6 obv

[raw cypress]

Totally normal leak during the start

[nocturne cape]

Context is Raidian Exu Wis ban

[stray dove]

I'm glad we're back to ISs that don't have huge penalties for leaking

fucking IS3 and IS4....

[raw cypress]

With raiden exu is kinda hard to leak at start with wis and ban you definitely could leak

[raw hemlock]

i beat it but those guys that become a buncha enemies are still scary

[sinful sparrow]

trog opener might be better
but this mf is so shit into bosses bruh

[raw cypress]

Im still d12 with is3

[stray dove]

still a long climb then

latter modifiers are difficulty spikes

[sinful sparrow]

trog opener clears f1 stages no diff e1, allat to be useless into endings

gg

[stray dove]

if you do ed2 or ed3, sure

[nocturne cape]

Just do ending 1

Duh

[rose coyote]

Trimmed medal done

[stray dove]

you really just say NO to using the vouchers huh

[sinful sparrow]

ending 1 in the big 26 🥀

[stray dove]

thats so few ops

[wanton rose]

how ed1a is6

[nocturne cape]

Dont you slander euthy my goat

[brittle grove]

Meele only based

[raw cypress]

To occupied grinding d15 is6

[sinful sparrow]

ed1a the liangs move diagonally or some shit

idk the one time i played it i just abuse infinite cat tragodia

[nocturne cape]

I feel like its harder but ive played that stage like once

[sinful sparrow]

and went back to ed2/2a

[stray dove]

Cube do you have the Tenth Hour of Sui in a screenshot or in a profile?

[nocturne cape]

According to Euthy its easier

I got all of them why

[sinful sparrow]

its probably easier cuz Liangs dont bombard your tank 24/7 constantly

[stray dove]

just need reference

cause using this is ass

[raw cypress]

Why chinese

[stray dove]

it's the only one i have

[raw cypress]

Damn

[stray dove]

only a few people can supply the rare Hour image

that is until i get it myself

then i could share it easily here

[nocturne cape]

Which one

[stray dove]

as much better

thanks

TENTH

oh you don't have it

it's the rare Hour with 1% sleep

how about your CN acct?

[nocturne cape]

Oh i didnt get it on EN yet

Uhh my cn acc is running

Remind me next time

[raw cypress]

Oh that

I think i got it

[errant siren]

I have Sleep Hour

[raw cypress]

One sec

[errant siren]

[stray dove]

then you better go catch it

IS4's Cecity still plagues me

I don't have much motivation to farm for Cecity

not when I got Discern in IS4 2 times....

[nocturne cape]

Whatever

[stray dove]

that'll do

[nocturne cape]

Here you go

[stray dove]

I hpoe HG stops making rare floor debuffs

my completionist in me

hates hunting for them

[raw cypress]

They won't stop that you know

[stray dove]

they won't

[raw cypress]

We gambler

Roll the dice my boy time to see if youre lucky

[stray dove]

I've already used last weekend until now just doing combatless F1->F2 visits

i did get Image Discern

but Tenth Hour still eludes me

at the very least IS6's rare Hour is easier to grind

i can do it in 2nd monitor with barely any looking at it

unlike IS4's triple combat F1 all with leaks

[carmine token]

[raw hemlock]

do I battle the garden?

[stray dove]

NOOOOO

unless you're curious

and don't mind a failed run

[carmine token]

eternal hunting leaks

[raw hemlock]

[stray dove]

d3 to be exact

enough to amplify the effects of Paradigm leveling up per stage leaked

while remaining easy enough

to have lvl 2 obtained easily

if you get lvl 1 Cecity

it was demoralizing to have gotten Image Discern twice in IS4

instead of getting at least 1 Cecity

it's already rare to proc these floor debuffs

[raw hemlock]

f3 boss: Sword, Glaive, Spear

those dang bosses

[stray dove]

the normal F3 boss i dislike the most

with the alter i dislike the most

[carmine token]

[stray dove]

they make sure the tankiest guy always activates first

so he gets the most perks from the other 2 being alive

[agile hill]

finally, this game is much harder than is

[stray dove]

oh you finally learned the meta

it took me a while to see why i had to remove the final triangle tier

[tribal furnace]

Bruh?

[bright otter]

the last two runes were in the wrong order tho

[stray dove]

it is

[tribal furnace]

Well you can put it, but only if you're sure you'll have the triangle at the end

[stray dove]

no you can't go to level 40 using it

not worth it

[tribal furnace]

Oh, mb then

[stray dove]

compared to having more square materials

turn into triangles

due to how triangle tier changes resources

[agile hill]

idk thats the strategy others say, if it works it works

probably intentional

[sacred niche]

this with stir fry

[stray dove]

why are you guys so devoid of WiW progress?

really bad Turmoil and Doubt gates?

[sacred niche]

0 turmoil nodes

[tribal furnace]

Alright time to do Wang

[stray dove]

too many revisits in Trade or something?

[tribal furnace]

Any advice?

[stray dove]

i try to avoid visiting Trade multiple times

[tribal furnace]

Wait

Isn't d10 the difficulty were more Turmoil spawn?

[stray dove]

no clue.

I just hang out in D12 or the highest diff

[sacred niche]

ye
it had some relics that i wanted but didnt had enuff lp on first visit

[raw cypress]

Damn so many shops

[stray dove]

still

try to avoid using Retrieves too much

only a few are really that valuable

like LP/healing or vouchers

[agile hill]

oh yeah do you guys try to go shop first in wonderland

[stray dove]

depends

how healthy is my LP

after robbing cannot

some robbing wounded me much more

than others

[bright otter]

the strategy was correct, it’s the placement, you put t2 triangle before t1 and t1 produces t2, it’s just that

[sacred niche]

i shop first then try my luck with retrieve /legend nodes to recover lp

[stray dove]

if my LP is low

[sacred niche]

gacha inside a gacha game

[stray dove]

i try to heal up first

with heal/Max LP retrieves

or fireplace Legend nodes

[tribal furnace]

And I lost

Had trouble handling the balls

[stray dove]

thats why i like IS6 so much. Sui Realm just adds so many ways to strategize and plan for

hell, i sometimes don't even do a single Turmoil in F2 WiW visit

unless Doubt and Turmoil gates everything

and i still have candles to spare

[sacred niche]

u visit wiw before fl 3?

[stray dove]

yeah

so i can use my LP

for shop asap

and heal up in different ways later

[sacred niche]

i try to get as much candles i can beofre entering

[stray dove]

Ji shop, depending on luck, can really make a run smoother

with some good relics or coins

[tribal furnace]

What's the point if you get locked?

[sacred niche]

locked?
fl 4 is guranteed wonderland tho

[stray dove]

no

what they meant is

Doubt or Turmoil locked

in F4, Turmoil might no longer be an issue

but multiple WiW visits solve Doubt requirements sometimes

depending on high LP, low life, high ingot, more Yans, more hope, etc.

[tribal furnace]

This and you might not have the correct squad for some turmoils

[stray dove]

another perk to visiting WiW earlier is

Retrieve nodes giving you more vouchers or more health

[sacred niche]

oh
true
i have to pick lesser rewards most of the time

[stray dove]

more vouchers to make F3 Pathfinder more valuable

[sacred niche]

f2 and 4 always gibs 5 candles?

[stray dove]

hilariously i try to brute force every class squad to my preference of "general squad powerhouse"

[tribal furnace]

Clearing parts of WiW grant you the ability to get better rewards in legends node

[stray dove]

that as well

[tribal furnace]

Best strat in this one

[stray dove]

most Legend nodes that you tend to see earlier

get more options with more nodes travelled

[tribal furnace]

My squad on my loss was 4 lateranos

[sacred niche]

so entering wiw every floor is optimal?

[stray dove]

or having more of something

[tribal furnace]

Grand pa soloed yo again

[stray dove]

like more candleholders in Amber Legend

[stray dove]

no

[tribal furnace]

No, bcs for example

[stray dove]

just do F2 F4 visits

[tribal furnace]

If you enter f1

[stray dove]

F3 and F5...depending on routing

entering F1 WiW is kinda ass

no candleholders

[tribal furnace]

See you're locked every where, no point in entering f2

[tribal furnace]

I mean, you usually don't see turmoil before sometimes anyway

[boreal island]

guys where's that IS5 squad consistency diagram?

you know the one that roasts speccast

[tribal furnace]

Bruh, 1 fight f1

[raw hemlock]

YUP... there goes another run...

[stray dove]

Sword Glaive really requires you to be a lot offense heavy from the get go

to solve the shield guy

and to prevent any enemy from hitting originium tile

once mobs hit originium tile

[raw hemlock]

how

[stray dove]

it's a snowball effect

[raw hemlock]

My squad was this

[stray dove]

after seeing your ops...

i mean can you blame me?

Wis S3 kinda bypasses the con of the shield guy's aggro and negation

due to splash

but the smoothest fights i had with that boss

needs 2-3 carries

Raidian and Wis/Geexu or all 3

at least 1 or 2 of them be E2

[tribal furnace]

Me when i have absolutely no dmg

[stray dove]

oh boy....

5 relics on F3

[tribal furnace]

Yeah rough

[stray dove]

thats low since I buy + rob Cannot in F1

and visit Ji Shop in F2

[tribal furnace]

I mean

Even without rob, I'm pretty sure i have like

10 relics by f3

[raw hemlock]

well, I'm not using Wis ever (it's a spite thing, I hold the same spiteful refusal to use units like Getian and Mercuria in r1999)

[stray dove]

how

[tribal furnace]

I might be wrong

[tribal furnace]

You're right, Fuck the illetrate cockroach

[stray dove]

like this is a typical run for me...and this is not even including the 3rd column of relics in the screenshot

just stating the amt of relics

don't bother with the highlighted ones

i was just pointing my luck

that i got all 3 boss-tier DPS relics

the typical run end for me is never going below 30 relics

[faint rampart]

[raw hemlock]

lucky...

[stray dove]

can anyone check which floor is this?

i don't remember these combat node names

but yeah that's a typical amt of relics for me in that floor

[sacred niche]

how does bells of agreement works?
what are ops promoted via combat?

[stray dove]

Pathfinder fight

the one with the flower tile that gets zapped

or harassed

you can also stack Bells with LeiFa risk coin

[sacred niche]

i nvr do that

[tribal furnace]

Yup

F2

6 relics

[sacred niche]

only 1 tile

[stray dove]

do it in F4-F6

2 tiles per fight

harder variations though

[sacred niche]

owh

[stray dove]

harder to keep both alive

with low deployment limit

[sacred niche]

i played it once on fl2
nvr after that

wait-

fl 6???

nvm

[stray dove]

not guaranteed

same reason Pathfinder isn't guaranteed in F5

hilariously

[sacred niche]

bs

[stray dove]

this is how it usually looks like in F4-F6

with red box either being open

or closed

a lot of variations with these Pathfinder double tile fights

[sacred niche]

isee
need gus medics for it

[stray dove]

...healers

most of the time

flower tiles are zapped

[sick mason]

What type of dmg those lightning dealt?

[sacred niche]

why is purestream gud in this is
only status i see is in fl3 ice boss stage

[stray dove]

depends on variation

sometimes they're just constant flow

sometimes with good intervals

sometimes....HP%

that increases

in other words, be ready for anything

[sick mason]

The lightning dmg could be physical, arts and true?

[stray dove]

mostly arts or true

thats why

if i want to stack bells

I recruit Quartz

[sick mason]

... Damn true dmg

[stray dove]

purely for the chance i might need her cheap bulk

for getting zapped

and make sure

whoever's on the tile ain't candled

[tribal furnace]

It can be bolt per ingot btw

[stray dove]

cause it doesn't give stacks if they're already candled

[sick mason]

Or just hope to get the lightning coin

But the location of the tile is always random

[stray dove]

i hate that variation

with ice drones

to slow down your healing

and then they're machinegunned by zaps

in a short amt of time

[bright otter]

she’s yan, that’s it

[stray dove]

need to get rid of drones asap

[sick mason]

I swear the shittiest enemies in IS6 for me are those pseudomuts, ursus UFOs

[tribal furnace]

Just use your ingot dude

[stray dove]

sometimes my run is just a lot of cash

[sick mason]

That f3 boss that hooked vagrary tiles

[stray dove]

but no aspd relics or coin

so its just.....Nian Desires

and that amt of money made a pathfinder variation harder

[tribal furnace]

LET'S GO GAMBLING

[stray dove]

thats why Pathfinder fights in F4-F6 (Cause of Bells) become some of the most planned things I ever do in IS6

[sick mason]

I guess cocoon silk coin is only available in support squad?

[stray dove]

yeah

no clue if you can get it

via plan

via 12 ingot rarity coin trades

[bright otter]

where the enemies, meanwhile i get this

[stray dove]

thats the easier ones

i prefer enemies

than zappers

[raw cypress]

Wtf is this

[stray dove]

a variation

of Pathfinder fight

no zaps

[raw cypress]

I prefer zappers

[stray dove]

but they spam charging enemies

[stray dove]

you'll learn to hate them

especially

if the only uncandled ops you have

are paper thin

as in....FRD or E1 medic thin

[raw cypress]

That why i put 3 healer

[stray dove]

good luck with the variation that zaps gets stronger the longer the map happens

until your precious candidate

is one tapped

hilarious how the most exciting runs are Bells runs

due to how you need to plan F4 Pathfinder onwards

[raw cypress]

Oh that why those run end with my op death

Ohooo

[raw hemlock]

I want that bowl....

[stray dove]

and when they don't get candled

that means 1 less bell stack

[stray dove]

why? 2 shield?

index collection?

[raw hemlock]

both

[stray dove]

then do it

earlier runs should be the most throwaway runs

[sick mason]

U wanna rob Cannot just to get that bowl?

[stray dove]

with harder diffs being purely lock-in

[sick mason]

Or buy it

[raw hemlock]

and the coin? skip?

investor crashes after 2 ingots

[carmine token]

wtfart

[boreal island]

Note to self for future: find IS5 245 progressive vs consistent squads comparison infographic. It's somewhere here, surely. NVM, found it.

[sick mason]

Overkill squad limit addition lol

[stray dove]

all i see are more stats

and more hope

[sick mason]

How many coupons drop by statuegeists if content megamus coin tossed?

[errant siren]

1

[wanton rose]

1

[stray dove]

yeah

[faint rampart]

🐌

[stray dove]

statuegeists naturally don't give coupons on death

just cash

[cloud cairn]

I'm dying

[faint rampart]

same

[cloud cairn]

I was about to beat d10 ed3 until my phone crashed

[wanton rose]

what do i drop on death

[stray dove]

tech issue

[cloud cairn]

Not really

It's the damage numbers

[sick mason]

Internet issue?

[errant siren]

Body (unsearched).

[cloud cairn]

(cocoon silk 101)

[wanton rose]

lol

[sick mason]

I know 2x speed can be laggy when Wang entered 2nd phase

Because he put those flaws every-fucking-where

[cloud cairn]

I mean it was on constant 240 fps

[faint rampart]

cant kill statue on f1 without raidian
shop wasted

[cloud cairn]

Until it randomly crashed

[sick mason]

Just go to 1x spd

[stray dove]

tech issue indeed

[sick mason]

Me casually running Arknights now in Mumuplayer with max 90 fps can handle this

[stray dove]

it really depends how much your hardware can load it

[sick mason]

Of course it's also primarily caused by how powerful my gaming laptop is

[stray dove]

like we're talking Reedic chain explosion

[cloud cairn]

To be fair I was doing that run in school

[sick mason]

At least it's not emergency version

[errant siren]

Sadge

[split void]

Never have that before

[sick mason]

Just roll 2 risk + 1 flower probably can get that

[split void]

Maybe I can try all risk coin for something fun

[carmine token]

the one time i got the node, i got a fight with 1 golem and shit ton of chests

[sick mason]

If you roll 2 significant risk coins, good luck with the emergency version

[carmine token]

for em t ooc

[sick mason]

Blud I don't have time for this

[errant siren]

Left

[agile hornet]

how good is swirealt after is mod

[errant siren]

No asking

[stray dove]

it might be my safe-play ass, but I wouldn't even dream of using those risk coins

[split void]

What is Plan ?

[carmine token]

trag coin or gundul coin

[stray dove]

WiW node

it trades coins with same rarity

or lower

at cost of LP

[errant siren]

There's Coin Exchange tile in Bosky.

Called Plan.

[split void]

[errant siren]

Pay 1 BaseHP

[sick mason]

Sighs

[split void]

Oh that that

[errant siren]

Hoe

[split void]

[sick mason]

Godblessed coin giving me random stuffs these days

[split void]

For some stuupid reason its name is not on my mind

[sick mason]

Can't believe I survived this far to floor 6 without family stir-fry or drum

Or bloodshed spill coin

[split void]

So if we exchange some specific coins, we could get a upgrade version

[sick mason]

And also with Wei-Chien activated

[carmine token]

wonder who is better one

[tacit oyster]

I got the ling node but why does she always disappear after the 2nd failed coin toss?

[sick mason]

U got scammed by her?

Oof

[errant siren]

They added the throw away mechanism to prevent milking her hard with everything.

Oh

2nd failed

Well, to mock you obviously

[sick mason]

Getting scammed once already hurt

[faint rampart]

i cant milk ling anymore wha

[sick mason]

Scammed twice? Dude

[tacit oyster]

I won many times, but whenever I had a failed coin toss of 4 non risks and 6 risks twice in a row, I get kicked out of the node

[stray dove]

my dude, i told you the only real WiW visits are F2 and F4

[sick mason]

You must've enjoyed drilling through doubt nodes in floor 2 wonderland

[errant siren]

Actually, you can.

[stray dove]

F3 and F5 will most likely be unaligned

[errant siren]

It's just complicated now.

[stray dove]

unless you're REAL lucky

[errant siren]

[split void]

[sick mason]

Expansion 1 will finally make F3 and F5 wonderland become worthy

[stray dove]

depends

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1072513709257269258.png

[raw hemlock]

Hmmm

[sick mason]

Lightning rod no doubt

[faint rampart]

ROD

[stray dove]

Expansion 1 QoL will improve aligning Pathfinder and WiW in F3 and F5

but it can still not align no matter how many verticals

[sick mason]

Just farm tickets in F2 WiW

[stray dove]

it really depends on luck but Exp1 does make it easier

[tacit oyster]

Couldn't max snowball, but this will do, I really wanted to see what it's like to max snowball and do A15

[tribal furnace]

I mean i get it, still managed to get 9 relics by floor 3

[tacit oyster]

Doing both Ed2 and Ed3 boss at the same time

[sick mason]

71 relics 👀

[faint rampart]

wtf highroller

[tribal furnace]

W t f

[gentle gazelle]

[agile hornet]

am I hallucinating or is the option 1 for candlebearers giving +50 atk and def not hp?

[tacit oyster]

I could've gotten 100+

[sick mason]

Did you scam Ling?

[tribal furnace]

Btw @stray dove how.did you know i visited F1?

[cold fjord]

Correct
This is an oldge message

[tacit oyster]

9 Relics at F1 is relatively easy depending on how lucky you are. And guaranteed if you rob cannot at F1

[tacit oyster]

I can teach you but you need support squad at A6 minimum

[raw hemlock]

[stray dove]

i don't

[tacit oyster]

Just get lucky with tosses and fill your coffer with reds except the support coin

[stray dove]

cause it's not valuable to do it

i actually tried what it would feel like

[tacit oyster]

but if you don't, you'll be kicked out of ling nodes early

[stray dove]

even if you don't do any Turmoils

do you know the worst feeling of F1 WiW visits?

[faint rampart]

so just another ling exploit, thought its a good run or something

[stray dove]

GETTING RETRIEVE NODE VOUCHERS.....AND YOU'RE ALREADY AT 4/4 CONSERVED VOUCHER CAP

so yeah

don't do F1 WiW visits

it's shit

[split void]

[raw hemlock]

I'm softlocked atm on bosky
3 doubt nodes blocking progression and 2 turmoils that my units can't clear easily (thanks to only getting a guard voucher and a vg voucher)

[tacit oyster]

Nope. Ling exploit only gave me 30+ relics. I aimed for more

[split void]

Do it recently

[raw hemlock]

and one of the turmoils is one that needs RANGE

[tacit oyster]

she kept kicking me out because I didn't have enough reds

[split void]

I mean 1 extra candle idk

[stray dove]

just for squad?

[tribal furnace]

Yeah alright fair

[stray dove]

ehhhh

Tianshi ain't worth extra floor visits

1 extra candle ain't improving your value if you're still stuck

[faint rampart]

thought its a normal run without any funni tricks

[split void]

[tribal furnace]

I'll try not entering f1

[stray dove]

just pick candle

but save it for later

the usual

[tacit oyster]

I have gotten 50+ relics without ling tho. Many runs where I kept buying out cannot because I had no gambling node

At like F3-5 I buy out shops if it's a ling-free run

problem is coupon farming

[tribal furnace]

Please teach me

[split void]

I not enter before, just started doing it again recently *when i just unlock 1 extra candle *

[sick mason]

Is this coin ever worth without pseudomuts exist?

[carmine token]

ts sucks

fraud coin

[split void]

There are some block token too

But feel like ground op is bad in is 6

[errant siren]

It kills you faster than enemy.

Oh

Wrong one

It's just trash

[tacit oyster]

It requires a LOT of luck. But also coupon/coin management. Esspecially at Higher floors.
It needs:

• Support Squad Coin that adds 25% of an ingot whenever it flips
• Luck with spawning the ling gambling node (rumored of 7% among all gambling nodesper run)
• box filled with risk coins EXCEPT that 1 support coin
• 200 or so ingots minimum

[carmine token]

its not maxhp/s and its arts dmg

[tacit oyster]

The thing is, gathering ingots snowballs HARD with the support squad tangbo

[sick mason]

I love this cheap Yan medic

[stray dove]

Pure has been huge value since IS5

same for Gummy

[raw hemlock]

oooooooooooo osmanthus goblet

[wanton rose]

infinite ling encounter in pins

[tribal furnace]

Alright

Btx

[errant siren]

Imposter amongus

[tacit oyster]

But the steps are:

• Start with support Squad
• Get as many red/vouchers/ingots early in f1
• If at A6 or so, use the free toss in each floor for the chance of growing your purse
• Rob cannot at F1
• Take EVERY bosky until F5 for maximum free coin toss
• Watch the snowball effect to 200+ Ingots to be safe

Now the luck part

• Pray to god that you get Ling in the gambling nodes
• If she doesn't come, then the run's not happening, and Nian is at least fun compensation to convert 50 ingots into collectibles
• If she does come, repeatedly gamble with ling 50 ingots each run for a guaranteed win, and get coupons and candles. Grow your stockpile to 1000+ ingots to be safe in case coupons screw you over, and repeatedly do lings for 6+ free collectibles

[sick mason]

Too lazy to recruit 6* medic

[tribal furnace]

I thought gambling nodes where all mutually exclusive

Hence why i was surprised when i met Shu in 3 different node in the same run

[tacit oyster]

Eyja is the best 6** medic

[tacit oyster]

Nope, they nerfed it. In this run, I got 2 gambling nodes with 2 lings which is rare