and it's a blessing if they can align
#is-station
stray dove
sick mason
Definitely
stray dove
I rob Cannot every F1
faint rampart
:ggnod:
sonic sable
We rob
stray dove
no point visiting Cannot beyond F1
when there's a lot of ways to spend ingots
whether Desires or Tavern
faint rampart
I rob him in floor 5 š
sick mason
I got scammed by Ling twice in a row
stray dove
sounds more like your luck is shit
sick mason
Tried to roll for risk coins, got rolled flowers
Tried to roll for flowers, rolled risks
stray dove
yep luck skill issue
i wonder how toxic it'd feel to keep all the shitty risk-con-only starting coins (only starts in mid diff)
and just keep adding more high risk high reward risk coins to replace all balance coins
sonic sable
Not bad
sonic sable
Humus got eaten
stray dove
leaks will always happen
sonic sable
stray dove
well
that's part of the plan
let him get eaten
leak dragon
you get him again
and the big biteys keep attacking the side S1 summons
giving you enough time to drop an S1 summon in middle
sonic sable
Yes but its taking ages to kill
stray dove
the reward is worth it....
well depending on the spread
i wouldn't say no to getting all those relics
since removing them from the relic pool means better drops later
ancient tree
Am I free to replace those tossed
stray dove
well yeah
sonic sable
Could have used end of times too
stray dove
at least based on resource
ancient tree
thanks
stray dove
i wouldn't cancel out the one that -max HP the enemies
i feel like those needs to stay
until they expire the next floor
those hope, shield, max HP temps are fine to be removed asap
you get them immediately the moment they're tossed
sick mason
Imagine how much HP reduction from the relics, bloodshed spill coin (-45% max HP), that one basic -30% max HP coin
stray dove
well yeah
those things make even D15 feel like they barely have any HP
there's a reason they're very solid coins
sick mason
I want profound silence relic
stray dove
no clue
i don't remember most relics mattering for me in IS5
what matters is lamp
and what you get from lamp
ancient tree
was chalice even an issue in is2
sick mason
Nah
The issues in IS2 are the overpowered class squads
Automatically E2-ing anyone
In IS3 they nerfed it and turned out to be crappy as hell
IS4 is no different either
stray dove
i mean
thats the same for IS1
if anything
IS2 is just turning IS1 into perma
with a new coat of map template
and adding only a few new maps and enemy types. Added a couple of new F3 bosses and all ending bosses are unique.
It's only in IS3 where they bothered to give us a chance to revisit IS1 bosses
back in year 2, this....this was something you fear
since there's not a lot that could tank a fast dashing lancer with IS's recruitment voucher restrictions
Gravel was a savior for this map
heavy pumice
ohh that map
well, not many ops can counter that back in the day
stray dove
indeed
heavy pumice
now.... i will laugh if lose to that map
stray dove
it's when Mudrock started existing that the map finally lost most of its luster
took a while for IS2 to happen
man, it looked so scuffed in retrospect
the UI
makes sense
temp game mode back then
so most are just placeholders and didn't need refining
the old "skill tree" in IS1
heavy pumice
at least HG improving
each IS offer something new
unlike CC that they dont have the ability to improve it yet
:icant:
stray dove
well
CCs are gonna be that as is
it's not anything gonna be different
it will always be 1 map with a lot of risks to add
and how to solve it will always be solved in a puzzle-like way
with more risks having less and less potential solutions
i like that AK's endgame are all different in those ways. Whether base building RA, roguelite IS, or puzzle-like CCBs
although it is a bummer that HG refuses to make old CCs perma
heavy pumice
in that sense yeah
or else players would leave the game
sudden cloak
Do you guys do 1 battle 1 encounter or double battle?
stray dove
encounter is almost always not worth it
unless you're hunting for something for index completion
sudden cloak
Aight
heavy pumice
its a good choice they make it not perma
stray dove
hell i wouldn't mind if they make Vector harder and harder
gaunt bay
Theyre actively getting worse lmao
errant siren
Do you guys do 1 battle 1 encounter or double battle?
Unless you do other Endings in old ISes, most fights possible are always best path.
Especially if they have Emergencies, which guarantees relic gain.
stray dove
all i know is, CCs are showing its age and it's good that it's no longer consistently seasonal. They will make it when they have a decent map idea
heavy pumice
yeah because its the best game mode and now HG struggling on how to improve it š¤
stray dove
we have a lot of alt temp game modes anyways
hell i can't wait for the next Icebreakers and Vector
and All In gamble (Duel Channel, right?)
heavy pumice
better they make new game mode that equal or even better than old CC
stray dove
AK's core design is so flexible in making game modes
hell, I wouldn't mind if they turned Ark No Nights into something special
like how April Fools All IN turned into Duel Channel
void root
I read it somewhere IS6 DLC1 introduce new squads where there is one squad called "Flower Squad"
What they do? More flower coins in tongbao?
stray dove
it is not surprising
if expansions add new squads
and upgrading some of the old ones
My wiki has no info about it
but i wouldn't be surprised if that squad has a specific starting flower coin or relic oriented to flower coins
Hell I wanna guess if it starts with "Brewed Realm"
sick mason
Didn't expect you to show up after a very long time eh
void root
Everyday I mourn for Ho'ol IS mod
stray dove
all i can say is....good job in HG for making the boss relic pool of IS6 be small
cause I hated how shit the boss relic pool of IS4 is
stray dove
Everyday I mourn for Ho'ol IS mod
then mourn for every IS module that didn't see much play
void root
At least you have either coin toss atk buff, more cleared battles in bosky = more atk
stray dove
cause she ain't the only one
void root
But the 3 risk or 3 coins for buffs is shit
stray dove
these are the only misses, yes
that's so few imo
compared to every other IS
hell
you can see boss relics in shop sometimes
or drop from a fight
it's nice to give us the powerful stuff much easier
Fry is so common to see in drops or shops
at least compared to Drum or Bells
ionic cradle
How does one acquire alot of -30% HP tongbao for ending 2 since I hate sui
ionic cradle
Both surviving and the fucking left spearmans
stray dove
ok so here's some tips
yeah relics and coins that help ops bulk up
very nice
no other solutions?
try stuff like Shu's Shelter, Waai's S1 that debuffs foot ATK on first stomp
Rose Salt's S2 that makes nuke dmg become DoTs instead
Shamare's S2 doll
as for left spearmen....it's much better to get more shields and LP
and just....leak them all
17 leaks
and you can ignore the entire left lane
solving left lane ain't easy
unless you have Ente
ionic cradle
no Shu
I do have Ente but not as much built
stray dove
another tip is
keep stalling the foot
do not make it go below 50% HP
until every other enemy is killed/leaked
so that its full map wipe doesn't threaten you as much
ionic cradle
The feet shockwave is usually the menacing thing
stray dove
how to tank it, well that's the biggest issue you need to solve the entire run
you have to recruit the solutions i mentioned
AND/OR bulk yourself up with relics and coins that add more HP to allied units
then try to get enough shield/LP to leak 17
after all those, the only thing you need left is to solve your DPS needs
ionic cradle
I think that risk dodge coin also works
stray dove
do not rely on dodge
against Ed2
it doesn't take much
for you to flip tails....in a row
until you wipe
hell, it's so bad you also don't want the risk coin that lowers your own ops' HP to lower enemies HP (even though it's really good everywhere else)
the bulkier your ops are, the better
sick mason
Tch
As much as I want those 30 ingots since I have chalice now
Less SP cost sounds much better
stray dove
ingots aren't as valuable to me since ingots past F1 are either ASPD coin/Chalice fuel OR just Nian Desires fuel
Dream Curio can win you runs
that you usually have no right to win
just cause skill cooldowns are so small
sick mason
I still need a damn bloodshed spill coin
stray dove
just having more DPS relics solves that anyways
Fry/Drum just makes bloated enemy HP not matter
Bells....needs a lot of work to be worthwhile
but if it's the only one i get, I do need to make it work
sonic sable
Do u guys like godsbleed?
sick mason
Fine bring it on!
tender chasm
I don't remember what's the exploding black and white mob dmg type?
stray dove
the fuck is silicon geist banquet?
sick mason
the fuck is silicon geist banquet?
Manmade carnival
stray dove
I don't remember what's the exploding black and white mob dmg type?
enough to wipe.
in higher diffs
really doesn't matter what type. you don't want to tank its combined explosion
tender chasm
alright
stray dove
thats why it's pretty important to stall Yi's movement
him getting near you means your defense line's gonna be gone
IS6 might be my most favorite IS because DPS relic stacking needs some pre-planning sometimes but ultimately worth it and WiW/Sui Realm is such a fun way of getting stronger
brittle haven
Chat lamp or talon for top gun squad
stray dove
coins are a great idea to make you stronger without being another form of "relics"
brittle haven
I wanna have some gambling fun
stray dove
Chat lamp or talon for top gun squad
any squad can be a lamp squad
it's more like....the question should be
what squad if you want talons
brittle haven
Ingot is one
heavy pumice
talons then
a true rng way :ya:
brittle haven
talons then
a true rng way :ya:
Aight
sick mason
HAHA
sonic sable
Top gun gives u random 6 stars messes up lamp
cedar crane
Talon every stage for a 2 hours run and die on f4
brittle haven
Top gun gives u random 6 stars messes up lamp
Oh yeah it's a handmixing mess
stray dove
Top gun gives u random 6 stars messes up lamp
tank that shit.
lamp is too strong that delaying it wouldn't matter as much
unless we're also talking both hand AND manual
brittle haven
unless we're also talking both hand AND manual
We are talking about both hand and manual
Cuz yk
It's top gun squad
brittle haven
And giving up top op feels like shit
stray dove
oh don't worry
gaunt bay
0 combats lookin ass
brittle haven
Is this just for scale
stray dove
its all about, is your question for effectivity?
or fun?
cause if it's purely for fun
Talons
just do Talons
stray dove
if you just want to win, Lamp everytime imo
sonic sable
Chat is mlynar better than leizi for clarity since he clears the floor faster?
brittle haven
Im too busy to actually be good and i have skill issue anywayb
Might as well give in my desire to be a gambler without risk
That's why i don't just go to the casino
sick mason
I'm running out of tickets and no dream curio rolled 
stray dove
welcome to relying on coins
you really don't want to fully rely on something that doesn't stick every floor
it is in a way, a decent form of balancing. Strong effects but it resets every floor and you need to brute force it with limited resources
unless you're doing all-squad ending clears
the Coin squad is something you might want for this to not be as big of an issue
cedar crane
How does -hp% affect the waregeist ? Is it rounded down or up
stray dove
no clue. i just assume it's always rounded up
but i never leave these things to math. I just need to have the "solution"
at the very least for my preferred operators, hit count is never an issue
it must be rough for newer players
sick mason
IS is an endgame content :v
stray dove
still
people will do it earlier
because it is very fun
even with a smaller roster
if not for that
it's for milestone rewards they want to get asap
because attempting IS is free anyways
stray dove
can't wait for Hoshitter more
she is solid in IS and she's something i want in my normal content squad
gaunt lichen
nop howshitter shit
āØtell meštell meškagamišo kagamiāØ is better
one is slop alter the other is āØtell meštell meškagamišo kagamiāØ
ionic kestrel
paper notch
that emote should be called RosHyper
as of right now it infringes on RosHype's identity
gaunt bay
i gotchu fam
Im getting u
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902953181754032198/1339840741261836421/ADMQV27LYHM7X7CFZ1.gif
sinful sparrow
omg hi mika
:mon3trsmug:
rapid matrix
i've never used tsukinogi before and now i've seen things... is that her ass or her back? 
sonic sable
Back
sudden cloak
I just learnt that Trag S3 summon Wang's ball
gentle pagoda
mmh, I tried that new cannot stage and got mushed into a paste
I had heard people would clear it with raidian easily so I probably missed a step
stray dove
ALL OF THE ABOVE
gentle pagoda
ALL OF THE ABOVE
You mean I need that?
stray dove
no
oak crane
mmh, I tried that new cannot stage and got mushed into a paste
probably the first step is try not to recruit chalter in IS6
do you have any other good option?
gentle pagoda
probably the first step is try not to recruit chalter in IS6
it was more a last moment "maybe I should have more ops for the fight"
stray dove
there's only really 2 ops needed
gaunt lichen
I had heard people would clear it with raidian easily so I probably missed a ste...
did u use s1
gaunt lichen
probably the first step is try not to recruit chalter in IS6
chalter still can win
ngl
gentle pagoda
none of the other 6* snipers I have I really like having
gaunt lichen
f1 rob
gaunt lichen
just use raidian s1
gaunt lichen
and u need someone to remove talisman
astral sentinel
This is a way to throw the fight for a free bosky right? But I'd lose most of my shields right? How many shields do I have after I throw
gaunt lichen
This is a way to throw the fight for a free bosky right? But I'd lose most of my...
just exit the stage
gentle pagoda
This is a way to throw the fight for a free bosky right? But I'd lose most of my...
0
gaunt lichen
exiting the stage counts as a loss
astral sentinel
Riight
gaunt lichen
which triggers the effect but u keep all ur shields and hp
astral sentinel
Never did it
gaunt lichen
which stage is heavenly paradise
gentle pagoda
probably the first step is try not to recruit chalter in IS6
also chalter is quite great for my IS6 because she works great with exulter
astral sentinel
which stage is heavenly paradise
Cancer lag 50 hit unblockable elements
gentle pagoda
more hits, and chalter has bonus aoe
severe oasis
which stage is heavenly paradise
gaunt lichen
also chalter is quite great for my IS6 because she works great with exulter
yk theres like
relics that reload ammo for exu
severe oasis
such a good stage
gentle pagoda
relics that reload ammo for exu
Why would I want less ammo for her
faint rampart
ancient tree
Why would I want less ammo for her
its more ammo
gentle pagoda
its more ammo
Not using chalter is less ammo
ancient tree
chalter is like 5 hope tho, this is just rn jesus
gentle pagoda
3 hope and free promote
oak crane
chat should i try IS5
ancient tree
Anyways I could be using my sniper tickets on chalter, or I could use it on
and I think the roach is abit more useful
gentle pagoda
meh
remote badger
wis is a bit ass this time
severe oasis
chat should i try IS5
no
ancient tree
also why not both, laq never said you could only take one
oak flower
Thanks you RNG finally get a run off
gentle pagoda
also why not both, laq never said you could only take one
exactly, relics and chalter for more exulter ammo
I feel hard stuck tbh
I only have this
ancient tree
Doubt*
oak crane
Waga yaiba
gentle pagoda
I can break none of the doubts and I can't seem to deal with the battles
ivory acorn
is there any guide to power farm through levels this integrated strategies?
remote badger
is there any guide to power farm through levels this integrated strategies?
pins-
gentle pagoda
Is raidian able to survive the angry boss here?
ancient tree
on what Diff are we talking about
severe oasis
have you tried winning
ancient tree
I think S3 would have been better tbh
gentle pagoda
I think S3 would have been better tbh
and leak instantly?
remote badger
no
ancient tree
depends on dp but I think you take out the boss on the right, then place a summon facing left so you have combined dps
but I also had the auto activate skill taobao so Tongbao
gentle pagoda
on the right? how so
remote badger
place better
gentle pagoda
I mean the boss will be out of reach for most units, no?
faint rampart
uh if im gonna travel vertically and do as much fights, then do it on earlier floors or after like f4-5 ?(in case the later floors drop more rewards or something idk)
ancient tree
I mean the boss will be out of reach for most units, no?
maybe like this
tribal furnace
lol that was garbage
Feel you, this map is ass
ancient tree
yeah it worked on one of my first runs, so it was D2
heavy pumice
wondering why so easy, turn out i forgot to activate ED4 :icant:
ancient tree
tribal furnace
He has less def than res btw
gentle pagoda
you had raidian e2 on D2? lol what
ancient tree
borrow start
gentle pagoda
oh
ancient tree
it was a lazy thing for a friend
tribal furnace
Or Special Squad ig
ancient tree
you need to get more higher diff for the upgrade It think
gentle pagoda
He has less def than res btw
so s2 was the right pick?
anyway I just burned my candles on nothing, at least I'm out of the hellhole
this run is truly a mood
tribal furnace
so s2 was the right pick?
It will be clunky + if you don't have S2M3 you lose 1 tile of range during skill
Don't forget S3 give Art Fragility
flint pendant
yeah whatever this is dead
raidian s3 + melee bait do it on d15
gentle pagoda
raidian s3 + melee bait do it on d15
thanks, where is the melee bait?
tribal furnace
ah no, it's 20
35 on M3
flint pendant
your amiya bro
gentle pagoda
that sounds great yeah
deft breach
is the Nian leisure event infinite?
tribal furnace
I LOVE RISK COINS
gentle pagoda
so far raidian starts have felt a bit miserable compared to exulter starts
slate hull
is the Nian leisure event infinite?
I have seen people post that it ends eventually, but I never had the ingot stack to hit that
gentle pagoda
is this run even worth continuing? I have no damage aside raidian
ancient tree
who is F3 boss
gentle pagoda
fisherman
deft breach
I have seen people post that it ends eventually, but I never had the ingot stack...
I have 120, gonna try and see ig
ancient tree
yolo I guess, I kinda forgot what the fisherman map is
tribal furnace
so far raidian starts have felt a bit miserable compared to exulter starts
I think Raidian starts might legit be the easier
At somepoint you'll even be able to do shit like Exulter Raidian start
Which is fucking stupid
deft breach
nah, she gave me mother cauldron and 1 upgrade out of 10, I'd need like 1000 ingots to max this lmao
gentle pagoda
I think Raidian starts might legit be the easier
I believe you, I just meant in terms of feeling and results so far
anyway this fight was fine for her thankfully
tribal furnace
Yeah this one is easy
gentle pagoda
got close to leaking one dragon though
tribal furnace
Don't forget Pseudomuts loose 100% defense when devouring an op
gentle pagoda
she's arts anyway no?
damn, guard voucher
guess I won't have much
at least I can burn a candle to get shu
tribal furnace
I meant as if you have sniper
(Or Exialter since you seem to spam her as a starter)
gentle pagoda
I meant as if you have sniper
ah yeah, didn't get any vouchers aside medic, def and now guard
and 1 supporter but raidian obv
this should make some battles more doable
I should get caster miya
nevermind, lol
this is so ass
wow, I finally cleared one battle (obv not the fatty)
surely I'm ready for the boss now
remote badger
death
ancient tree
S2? I've always used s3 for this stage
arctic panther
both is good
gaunt lichen
S2? I've always used s3 for this stage
?
gentle pagoda
why are you using raidian s3 for this stage
Cause I had no ranged op, s2 would've cluttered and meant no safe solution for the caster
gentle pagoda
not that it mattered since the dog broke the stone too fast to do anything
gaunt lichen
which wouldn't have happened if u used s2
ancient tree
s3 cant reach
You don't actually have to reach you explode the ones coming out the wall
gentle pagoda
rest in piss run
ancient tree
Then it chains and kills the line
gaunt lichen
You don't actually have to reach you explode the ones coming out the wall
or just
yk
place a fish
and win
no stress
ancient tree
You are going to have to show your setup
gentle pagoda
oh wait, I could've tried to reroll for the reroll coin
the only coin I got could've helped skip the fight
so that I could lose on the boss instead
probably my highscore of most progress with the least progress
probably would make things easier when I have more of this
gaunt lichen
You are going to have to show your setup
summon facing left
summon under the rock facing up for the dog
surely
summons cost nothing anyways
just use it on the caster when raidian s2 up
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
retreat if u want
ancient tree
Wouldn't you get fried dog ever broke block
gaunt lichen
no?
and remember ur dpsing the caster with raidian s2
dogs should be fine anyways
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
gentle pagoda
summons cost nothing anyways
7 dp
gentle pagoda
I wish that was nothing
severe oasis
"this doesnt work" "try this instead" "that wont work"
ancient tree
gentle pagoda
why would I have exulter
remote badger
s2 cracked
gentle pagoda
I've been told again and again to do raidian starts
gaunt lichen
I started with raidian
yk u can start with both raidian and exu
gentle pagoda
I was fine with exulter starts
gaunt lichen
remote badger
u can do myrtle raidian exualt start
ancient tree
There is a squad with free rayman
gaunt lichen
unless ur doing d15 you can literally start with both raidian and exu
gaunt lichen
yeah u can do that on d5
remote badger
u alr got raidian e2 on completing d2
gentle pagoda
how so?
remote badger
shes cheap as heck
gaunt lichen
either pick support squad, special squad or a class squad
gentle pagoda
I'm currently clearing with med sniper...
remote badger
I'm currently clearing with med sniper...
try defsupp
gaunt lichen
why would you not use special squad rn
what is stopping you from using special squad
gentle pagoda
because I'm currently clearing with med sniper
severe oasis
snipermed fell off wis sucks tbh.
gaunt lichen
because I'm currently clearing with med sniper
and you're..unfortunately, losing
remote badger
real info btw
gaunt lichen
so
gaunt lichen
so then...why dont you start with wisadel and raidian
gentle pagoda
there's no support sniper start
gentle pagoda
raidian costs 2
I feel like you didn't read what I said
remote badger
lol laq
raven obsidian
maybe d5 is more difficult than d9 lol
severe oasis
yeah theres no start with supp and sniper
severe oasis
exactly
remote badger
s3 sucks bru
severe oasis
there is the beautiful supp spec vouchers
gentle pagoda
I hate using wisadel
gaunt lichen
just pick normal raidian start, go to the shop for sniper ticket
gentle pagoda
she's at the bottom of my trash bin
severe oasis
holy based
gentle pagoda
I prefer chalter start over this
severe oasis
calm down
remote badger
gentle pagoda
and I still go for raidian
gaunt lichen
ok but do you like chalter start more or winning more
remote badger
watching the messes might be much better
severe oasis
gaunt lichen
so why are you forcing yourself to win with sniper med on d5
severe oasis
cant wait to start with haruka. itll work
gaunt lichen
whats the lore
gentle pagoda
because I don't want to do sniper med on higher difficulty
where it actually matters
gentle pagoda
I stopped doing badges when IS5 happened
gaunt lichen
whats the point of sniper med on d5
severe oasis
like at all
gaunt lichen
gentle pagoda
relic
gentle pagoda
idk it's locked
severe oasis
does it have to be on d5
gaunt lichen
for fkn vinecreep??
gentle pagoda
I need raidian to be good no?
gaunt lichen
is that vinecreep
is it this one
whats stopping u from doing this on d0
surely u can do this on d0
severe oasis
bro that is vinecrap
gentle pagoda
bro that is vinecrap
is it a garbage relic?
gaunt lichen
bro that is vinecrap
so that is vinecreep
severe oasis
is it the same as before
gaunt lichen
i wasnt schizo
severe oasis
it is yeah
severe oasis
literally the same outline
gentle pagoda
well, guess I cleared sniper med
gentle pagoda
wym
the only reason I was playing it was for the relic
relic is trash, no more reason
severe oasis
i cant
gaunt lichen
@severe oasis thoughts on my snipermed start
severe oasis
what the hell sure
gentle pagoda
you prob have a maxed raidian
gaunt lichen
u can borrow a maxed raidian
gentle pagoda
people can use wisadel
gaunt lichen
i ban wisadel from my runs
gentle pagoda
there you go
severe oasis
do u listen to anything at all or do u just play in silence
gaunt lichen
i listen to music
well
im not listening to anything rn
so ig i am just playing in silence
severe oasis
this is true
ancient tree
but most stages mute, or just have sound effects so I can hear when someone ded
gaunt lichen
Absolute dogshit
bring ptilopsis and that coin and everyone can regen sp like eunectes
tribal furnace
Yeah so
I know
I was against yi with this
And the funny ed3 relic
And the funny hour of.sui that make you lose sp on deploy
And my only vanguard was myrtle btx
wet zealot
I had this with Leizi
Who doesn't attack
So she can't generate sp
(Lost me my run btw)
arctic panther
So she can't generate sp
wow i never knew leizi was a vanguard 
tribal furnace
Yup
tribal furnace
New archetype too
wet zealot
Idk what you're talking about 
tribal furnace
We could go something like...
Doesn't attack, but DP generated by skill augment each second up to a certain%
Like you can trigger the skill earlier for less dp or something like this?
faint rampart
stealing from the poor
potent yarrow
bruh this just straight up kills your run early
ofc the text sends but not the picture fuck discord
its either the spike snail or the talisman ruins wisadel gfidjshssksi
steel relic
One must imagine a voucher
I died to Yi
My Tragodia looks a little funny, he didnāt have his cat
errant siren
its either the spike snail or the talisman ruins wisadel gfidjshssksi
Wis is E2?
faint rampart
surely :clueless:
loud marsh
is there an is6 stage where leizi2's s1 is useful
raw hemlock
good morning, I woke up a bit too early and can't fall back asleep so I guess I'll do is6 while I'm too sleepy to be scared
I might've gone through f3 before I fell asleep-
faint rampart
good morning, I woke up a bit too early and can't fall back asleep so I guess I'...
dont ruin your morning 
raw hemlock
my morning was already ruined by me waking up 2 hours too early
gotta have something to do on my phone while i eat breakfast, y'know
faint rampart
good luck, you have chalice surely you win
raw hemlock
cultured always seems to give me some kinda trouble (especially aerial trouble), so what the heck do I do for it to have less trouble?
faint rampart
you have narantuya who can handle that no?
potent yarrow
Wis is E2?
talisman fucks up wisadel e3 š
raw hemlock
you have narantuya who can handle that no?
not recruited on this run-
never got ANY sniper vouchers from battles
faint rampart
**not recruited on this run-**
uh oh, sorry didn't know that
raw hemlock
I just have the reserve ops, Entel, canta, purestream, podenco, and ethan
faint rampart
it only has 3 perm ranged tiles so you cant even s3 raidian or something
what the helly
raw hemlock
my last run went better than this and that one was just meant to die at the end of floor 2
I had Naran AND Raidian on that one cuz other than the voucher fail at the start things went far better
faint rampart
raw hemlock
should I do the other battle to get that scout node instead?
severe oasis
is there an is6 stage where leizi2's s1 is useful
i like it on f6 stages, but s2 works too, so like..
theres not really a stage where its the best i would say
altho i havent used leizi enough to tell
raw hemlock
Iirc it has less enemies than cultured so you can leaā
i figured out how to manage the stage yay!!!
uhhhhhhhhhh is the shennong watches coin good to replace a blank coin?
arctic panther
i figured out how to manage the stage yay!!!
raw hemlock
uhhhhhhhhhh is the shennong watches coin good to replace a blank coin?
ok i'll leave it, byebye red coin
uhhh who should i promote on the scout node? all my non-reserve ops are candleguests already, but I can still promote Podenco or Canta (or ethan, but he wouldn't get benefits cuz he's not even max level e1)
severe oasis
canta e2 is nice if u have masteries
raw hemlock
got 2 masteries on s2, does that count enough in her favor?
or does podenco being m3 for s2 factor in more?
gentle pagoda
I thought things were going well until I realized no enemy was dying
raw hemlock
I thought things were going well until I realized no enemy was dying
oh no
arctic panther
I thought things were going well until I realized no enemy was dying
you arent dying either 
agile hill
oh yeah would you guys take coin toy or the 3/2 aspd coin if given a choice
arctic panther
oh yeah would you guys take coin toy or the 3/2 aspd coin if given a choice
coin toy
coin toy and chalice are permanent
stove alight is not
gentle pagoda
you arent dying either <:RedOmegaLul:1002227534622117918>
I wish, kek
gentle pagoda
oh yeah would you guys take coin toy or the 3/2 aspd coin if given a choice
both
severe oasis
stove alight is not
it can be, just roll better š¤«
arctic panther
not wasting my coupons until f5-6
gentle pagoda
anyway, I guess I should not care about the statue and have exulter on the right side to kill enemies, right?
agile hill
coin toy and chalice are permanent
yeah chalice would be a no brainer unless you got a huge reason behind taking stove alight
severe oasis
who said anything about coupons. just skillfully roll it every floor
agile hill
thats why i asked coin
arctic panther
who said anything about coupons. just skillfully roll it every floor
d12
faint rampart
or does podenco being m3 for s2 factor in more?
me thinks canta
gentle pagoda
this is weird, we don't have a flaw enemy info?
arctic panther
this is weird, we don't have a flaw enemy info?
just tap on it in the fight
gentle pagoda
this squad feels so broken compared to poopoo medsniper
arctic panther
<:thumbcat:923014664726642719>
also m3 her s1
gentle pagoda
also I'm wondering if pinecone might be the best 4* sniper pick for this? She's the only good aoe
faint rampart
oka finally got it, now i can dieš
raw hemlock
soooooooo narantuya with the sniper voucher? I'm about to head into the bosky node and I'd like another aerial hitter
steel relic
also I'm wondering if pinecone might be the best 4* sniper pick for this? She's ...
Iām pretty sure most people still just use May
I prefer Vermeil for dual targeting though
gentle pagoda
she felt like garbage for the shop fight so it was sad
pinecone still works when talismand
raw hemlock
i can pass through a doubt node yay!
got bend spears - acuity & string puppet
hm...
wait I can do that other doubt node too
Woodblock prints & brewed realm
I think those are better?
gentle pagoda
oof, I messed up and didn't pick the right skill
I think I could've won otherwise, that's good
muted tundra
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902953181754032198/1339840741261836421/AD...
yippee
we do a little dusk beauty bullying
gentle pagoda
Finally š„¹
raw hemlock
...oh I could try ed2, that's the butterfly
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh is that one easier than ed1 without trag or raidian or no?
gentle pagoda
raidian is quite helpful for baiting the boss
raw hemlock
well I don't have her right now (and my current conserved vouchers are guard, vg, or vg/guard 
)
gentle pagoda
you have canta right?
muted tundra
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh is that one easier than ed1 without trag or raidian or no...
trag does basically zero for ed2
raidian is helpful but not necessary if you have FRDs
raw hemlock
you have canta right?
yup
muted tundra
yea canta/surfer are very good for ed2
gentle pagoda
you'll want some extra redeploy ops then
I thought this would work, but I forgot besiegers literally can't hit the talismans
muted tundra
LMAO
gentle pagoda
eeeey, I guess I just have to take one leak and it's a guaranteed win
š„¹ good omens
the shop
gentle pagoda
I know this isn't good but
a victory is good no matter the path
slate hull
a win is a win
raw hemlock
so do i take the inkstick?
slate hull
what difficulty are you on? because I wouldn't be confident in even beating ed1 with that squad
thorny ermine
now it's time for pain
desert brook
so do i take the inkstick?
i think ed2 is take inkstick -> kill foot (<50% hp) -> use inkstick in prophecy
gentle pagoda
what difficulty are you on? because I wouldn't be confident in even beating ed1 ...
it shows d2
raw hemlock
what difficulty are you on? because I wouldn't be confident in even beating ed1 ...
d2
slate hull
it shows d2
I was looking at this #is-station message
gentle pagoda
among defenders hung is yan right?
slate hull
anyway, it might be possible, but you really want a good dps and fast redeploy for ed2
gentle pagoda
otherwise I have bison I guess
raw hemlock
anyway, it might be possible, but you really want a good dps and fast redeploy f...
well I still have floor 5
slate hull
e2 naran with s3 could likely do it at this difficulty, but prepare to bleed a lot of life points
raw hemlock
.......imma save the ed2 attempts for later then
ooooo rusted blade
ethan faster now
Anything look good here or move onto floor 5?
gentle pagoda
sweet revenge
wraith warren
King relic first choice too 
gentle pagoda
the relic giving 100 aspd after using ammo skill is so broken with cantabile
instant dp bomb
raw hemlock
:O
gentle pagoda
of course the FIRST legend
raw hemlock
oof
gentle pagoda
rip run I guess
muted tundra
of course the FIRST legend
where was it
gentle pagoda
where was it
top left
gentle pagoda
It did it againnnnnnnn
wait, how so many paths
raw hemlock
3 to start, but if I want either pathfinder or one last bosky I have to go middle path
Unless I do bottom path and lane-jump for pathfinder, I guess
wraith warren
of course the FIRST legend
didn't you gamble
gentle pagoda
didn't you gamble
wym gamble
gentle pagoda
oh, ofc but unluck
wraith warren
Rip
raw hemlock
gentle pagoda
map screwed me so bad
arctic panther
the relic giving 100 aspd after using ammo skill is so broken with cantabile
donāt forget the auto reload relic too
gentle pagoda
donāt forget the auto reload relic too
still far from that, but yeah it's nice too
lappilap is really good for IS6 now that I think about it, her s1 destroys any talisman on ops anywhere
her s3 memes on wang
arctic panther
<:pikaknight:661099760719233024>
how
distant glade
IS4 D8, currntly in an F4 bosky, with Ines, Wis, Degen, Shu, Reed2, and Exu2 at E2 and Kal at E1 (plus ten 3*s). I was originally going to just do ED1 for the first time D8 clear, but the shop has the ED4 item.
I have not cleared ED4 before. Is it viable with my team?
raw hemlock
one last bosky trip, or pathfinder to use these conserved vouchers?
tacit oyster
I just killed A15 Mouthpiece by just letting his men leak
Those dolls have high def but shit res. Shouldn't have brought archetto, but I laughed when half the map and phase1 died by explosions
arctic panther
<:karinthink:586819183115894799>
one last bosky trip, or pathfinder to use thes...
path
errant siren
tacit oyster
Honestly not the worst D15 boss so far.
I did Playwright, BSL, and mouth piece in that order. Now to just do basic phantom
then I am done with IS2 entirely
tacit oyster
Angelina + cheeto combo and you can stunlock and kill him in spawn
raw hemlock
bad news, I've still got the 4-voucher conservation cap, do I use this sniper voucher to e2 naran or get another sniper?
I've got 24 hope
gentle pagoda
time to find some leisure
rapid pulsar
bad news, I've still got the 4-voucher conservation cap, do I use this sniper vo...
Who are your other snipers
And what floor are you at
raw hemlock
Who are your other snipers
roster in bio
check that, and I'm on floor 5 of d2
gentle pagoda
should I consider picking yu? How do the lappilap drones work with his s3
tacit oyster
> roster in bio
check that, and I'm on floor 5 of d2
d2 and youre doing ed1, right?
rotund compass
Finally done wth E3 diff 10 rng is real
raw hemlock
d2 and youre doing ed1, right?
yupppppppppppppp
rotund compass
well that extra sp regen really help
tacit oyster
yupppppppppppppp
ok lad, since it's ed1 you don't need to worry about candlebearers in low diff
raw hemlock
haven't gotten ANY supporters since the initial Podenco recruit so I'm cursed with "no ez-win raidian" for now
tacit oyster
So unless you want to get lemon or already have her, get narantuya
raw hemlock
Narantuya's already on the team
raw hemlock
This enough for high ASPD?
tacit oyster
Chalice
How many ingots do you have?
raw hemlock
I have at least 45 last I remember
tacit oyster
+63 aspd is pretty good. stick to narantuya
Also if I were you, whatever coupons you have left over, flip your coins until you get 10 drum stacks
what are your reserved vouchers anyway?
wary yacht
Wait can we reroll our coins with coupons?
slate hull
Wait can we reroll our coins with coupons?
you never tried? it is free once per floor on the first one and then you can retoss for coupons
lone oak
got ed2 in IS6 sighseer scroll
does that let me do ed3 or do i still need to do ed2 on guided tour to unlock ed3?
wary yacht
lmao no
thatās actually funny how i didnt know that considering the amount of runs ive done
tacit oyster
Wait can we reroll our coins with coupons?
yeah- after the first roll in the floor, the next roll is always +1 for that floor. Bosky counts as a seperate floor
wary yacht
got ed2 in IS6 sighseer scroll
does that let me do ed3 or do i still need to do...
I doubt it
But the requirements for ed3 is a lot easier to get than ed2 so youāll see if it shows up pretty quickly
tacit oyster
guard, vanguard, guard/vg, and medic
yeah just E2 Naran, get a good guard and medic
slate hull
yeah- after the first roll in the floor, the next roll is always +1 for that flo...
I thought bosky counted as the floor you are currently on
it tosses your coins when you enter, but when you try to reroll it gives you the cost you had before entering
raw hemlock
Should I get some more life points or more squad space?
lone oak
it tosses your coins when you enter, but when you try to reroll it gives you the...
yeah bosky toss your coins but the reroll cost stay the same as if you were on that floor still
tacit oyster
But the requirements for ed3 is a lot easier to get than ed2 so youāll see if it...
I'd say the opposite. Ed3 is more consistent, but getting to the boss is harder than Ed2, since Ed2 you just need to fight him in the raid
lone oak
I'd say the opposite. Ed3 is more consistent, but getting to the boss is harder ...
do i still need to do ed2 again?
tacit oyster
but Ed3 removes SP, requires a pathfinder, and a lot of planning for the lifedrain
tacit oyster
do i still need to do ed2 again?
what do you mean?
wary yacht
Yeah ed3 can be annoying if youāre not prepared for it
lone oak
what do you mean?
i did ed2 on the sightseer scroll but not on regular operation
do i still need to do ed2 again on regular operation to unlock requirement for ed3
or have i already unlocked
wary yacht
Iād say youād most likely have to do it in a regular operation
tacit oyster
i did ed2 on the sightseer scroll but not on regular operation
doesn't matter. As long as you beat the Ed2 boss at F5 and credits roll, Ed3 is now permaunlocked
wary yacht
But really the only person who can answer for sure is you
lone oak
doesn't matter. As long as you beat the Ed2 boss at F5 and credits roll, Ed3 is ...
do i just clear all doubts node to find ed3
tacit oyster
So just do Ed3 at any difficulty you want. You don't need ed2 relics or foot anymore
wary yacht
One of the doubt nodes will let you do ed3
tacit oyster
do i just clear all doubts node to find ed3
Ed3 node is ALWAYS the first gate in the sui dream nodes
regardless of location. The first one unlocked is always the Ed3 gate. To get the Ed3 relic, you need 5 candleguest operators.
gentle pagoda
my 2 leisures were shu, I couldn't find anything to spend ingots š„¹
lone oak
regardless of location. The first one unlocked is always the Ed3 gate. To get th...
so i shouldn't unlock any doubt unless i have 5 candleguest?
tacit oyster
No I mean, when you explore the sui bosky, you unlock nodes. The first doubt node unlocked is always the Ed3 one. Thankfully visiting it doesn't cost steps
gentle pagoda
gotta love machine gun canta
lone oak
No I mean, when you explore the sui bosky, you unlock nodes. The first doubt nod...
ah i see so what is it suppose to say>
i see most of it is normal doubt node text
or is it after i complete the doubt node
tacit oyster
ah i see so what is it suppose to say>
The BG isn't supposed to look like a normal doubt/gate node
wary yacht
The node for ed3 will just have a lot more options and a different background
Youāll know it when you see it
tacit oyster
did you beat Ed2?
lone oak
did you beat Ed2?
yes
raw hemlock
which guard should I get from what I have in my roster?
distant glade
IS4 D8, currntly in an F4 bosky, with Ines, Wis, Degen, Shu, Reed2, and Exu2 at ...
I chickened out and just did ED1 instead
tacit oyster
yes
Then the first doubt in your next run will always be the special Ed3 one. You can visit it to be sure
it won't cost you candles or steps
lone oak
Then the first doubt in your next run will always be the special Ed3 one. You ca...
im on the run rn
and the doubt look normal
idk what is suppose to be different
can you give example
tacit oyster
can you give example
1 sec, in a mission
raw hemlock
how about vg? Canta's maxed
tacit oyster
how about vg? Canta's maxed
U got Wanqing?
raw hemlock
Who?
raw hemlock
dont have 'em
tacit oyster
im on the run rn
This should be the very first doubt in each run
lone oak
damn well i have 5 doubts rn and none of them look like that
tacit oyster
got a screenshot of your run?
tacit oyster
dont have 'em
You should build him. He counts as a yan operator and is pretty decent too. Otherwise, myrtle or elysium
lone oak
got a screenshot of your run?
just closed the game but all the doubts look like normal doubts
nothing remotely like that
arctic panther
damn well i have 5 doubts rn and none of them look like that
that is extremely unlucky
tacit oyster
or that
lone oak
Maybe when you beat Ed2, it didn't register?
definitely did
i got the dragon thing
ending
arctic panther
definitely did
did you beat ed2 with the monthly squad?
lone oak
did you beat ed2 with the monthly squad?
yes
raw hemlock
You should build him. He counts as a yan operator and is pretty decent too. Othe...
I've got Myrtle built more (e2lvl50, m6 for skills, have her module) so should I get her?
lone oak
i ask that question orginally if it counted or not
tacit oyster
which is weird because in my experience, the first doubt is always the ed3
arctic panther
which is weird because in my experience, the first doubt is always the ed3
same
tacit oyster
Wait, monthly squad endings don't count dude
lone oak
why you said it did?
tacit oyster
I've got Myrtle built more (e2lvl50, m6 for skills, have her module) so should I...
yes
tacit oyster
why you said it did?
Misunderstood that statement, sorry man
just do it again at E0
lone oak
aight i guess
tacit oyster
A0 I mean
arctic panther
just do it again at E0
e0 ed2 is probably impossible without giga highrolls
lone oak
i doesn't seem like i need ed3 until i reach d8 anyway
raw hemlock
how 'bout medic? everything on my krooster's up to date except for papyrus, I just got that op this morning
tacit oyster
if you need an op, lmk
tacit oyster
e0 ed2 is probably impossible without giga highrolls <:RedOmegaLul:1002227534622...
what makes you say that?
arctic panther
only one skill
oak flower
When you get all hot kettle in Is6 is it some kinda of cap for relic ?
arctic panther
When you get all hot kettle in Is6 is it some kinda of cap for relic ?
there is no cap
wary yacht
some guy out there is probably working on a15 e0ās only
arctic panther
on relics or kettles
tacit oyster
how 'bout medic? everything on my krooster's up to date except for papyrus, I ju...
ptilopsis. You need that + sp gen
arctic panther
I meant Beat it at A0
i know i was teasing you for the minor spelling mistake
tacit oyster
lol
arctic panther
raw hemlock
ptilopsis. You need that + sp gen
owl :D
tacit oyster
some guy out there is probably working on a15 e0ās only
the closest I got was beating A12 with 0 upgrades
raw hemlock
now do I promote Leizi or myrtle, or get another guard/vg op?
raw hemlock
damn what a perfect start
tacit oyster
now do I promote Leizi or myrtle, or get another guard/vg op?
you should'Ve promoted leizi at f5 pathfinder lol
oh well, e1 with s2 works too
raw hemlock
you should'Ve promoted leizi at f5 pathfinder lol
I am on f5 pathfinder
I haven't LEFT yet
tacit oyster
then promote leizi