is-station

[worn lichen]

[proven dagger]

leaked a grudgebearer that was on 1 hp

and a brute

🥀

BRUH

oh god hes just walking down

its joever

🥀

i missed the law and order roll

didn't get stainless either

[winter belfry]

bro sent the same picture twice

[floral plaza]

Yi hit him so hard

[proven dagger]

brain hemorrage

anyway

i fucked up the bosky fights and didnt snowball as hard as i could've

i had the ops to clear the boskies but lost to small mistakes lmao

[faint rampart]

is phantom(the frd) decent in IS?

[prime mountain]

His IS module makes him pretty decent

[faint rampart]

hmm oka, so not giga dead or something

[burnt hamlet]

other than "raise" Raidain, any other tips to try and make is6 a bit easier? gettin my butt kicked by those damn floating ticket things

[prime mountain]

Thats an insta pick tbh

outside of like f5 and you need someone else promoted

[faint rampart]

yea, thanks
was able to save hope to use it on other vouchers

[faint rampart]

what floating things?

oh

talisman

[burnt hamlet]

[arctic panther]

build ops that have alot of hitcount(fast aspd, poison, multihitting skills, etc)

[fading wind]

What is the % of encounter with the 50 ingot

Cz i never seen it since i played IS6

[wet zealot]

What's the deal with ed1

How do you not explode lmao

[wary zodiac]

do you want to take legend nodes at last?

[wanton rose]

some legend nodes extra reward requirement not that hard to fulfill, just highroll :ya:

the one you need to worry about is ed2 relic

too early and you're not strong enough run probably over

[wanton rose]

might want to see cube's video on ed1 clear with tragodia carry
you can tank the boss that works, kill the ghosts, or just explode the boss first

[wanton rose]

the ling leisure node?

[fading wind]

Yeah

[wanton rose]

i have no idea man, but there's only 3 leisure encounter so...

i wanna say 33% but it's probably not that straightforward

[wanton rose]

if you keep the boss on top of the map, the drones will only be on the top half

[fading wind]

Then im unlucky if in +30 run i never find it

[wanton rose]

yea i think it's pretty rare, i only run into it like a few times

[winter belfry]

Ive been seeing a few %s being thrown out but

It's between 3-5% for sure

so pretty rare

[fading wind]

I might atp kms

Fuck it we will Walter it

[ancient jacinth]

how does IS calculate relic multipliers

do they add it by individual collectible multiplier or total it into one grand multiplier before adding to a stat

and are stuff like ageless erudition upgrades computed first separately before the collectibles or is it also added to the computation of the collectibles

need to know how the +% (and -%) is calculated

[silver mulch]

man

[silver mulch]

i reckon they calculate the multiplier with base stats

[inland elbow]

https://is-central.github.io/general-knowledge/damage-calculations/

Try reading this

But a general overview is there are two types of attack buffs

Conditional and unconditional

Conditional is like kings crown in is5

It depends on a condition that is checked inside the stage

Unconditional is like silver forks, it's calculated when you enter the stage

[ancient jacinth]

nice

tyty

[inland elbow]

IS buffs that you get from the tree are unconditional buffs

So it goes base stats × (1+tree buff+unconditional buffs) × (1+conditional buffs)

[slate hull]

do ed3 on low difficulty for skill masteries, forget to deliver the plan to the pathfinder, I suppose the only upside is that I now won't forget to do it while doing difficulty 10 runs

[prime mountain]

Surely you will never make this mistake again

[slate hull]

I was doing the clear any ending stuff and thought I'd do ed3 for practice because I still have to do it on d10 for the mod

surprisingly, never made this mistake on all of my failed d10 attempts, but it is so funny how on d7 I foget about the plan and on d10 and I don't get past floor 5, some day both of these conditions are going to line up

[vestal ice]

Does Nian not count?

[slate hull]

oh, that is interesting, is she not considered recruited because you get her for free?

[vestal ice]

That's what I'm guessing

[sick mason]

All Sui siblings should've count

Or perhaps

It's Chalter the one who doesn't count

Who knows I guess

[winter belfry]

i mean he has 5 yan ops

[vestal ice]

I'm pretty sure Chalter counts, but I just did an extra battle and recruited swire and it worked

[winter belfry]

weird

[sick mason]

No that's 4

Laptop is Siracusa, Raidian is Ursus, Amiya is Rhodes Island (or Rim Billiton if counted birthplace), Ines is Kazdel

Chen is from Lungmen and worked for LGD
Chalter is still from Lungmen but doesn't work for LGD anymore

Quite the difference compared to Exu alter, Texas alter and Swire alter

[winter belfry]

ok so he only had 3

[prime mountain]

Chalter isnt yet a yan unit

They fix it later

stupid system

[winter belfry]

yeah

this pmo

[vestal ice]

That's lame, wish they'd have these fixes out right away in global if it was already found in cn

[sick mason]

Too bad for further QoL updates, we really have to wait for expansion 1

[burnt hamlet]

i mean like starting squad pick (not ops) and how to maximize gains from sui dreamland and nodes in general, not operator picks i already know those

[silver mulch]

i want to do second ending

[silver mulch]

but seeing it

scares the shit out of me

[lapis mesa]

I can’t fuck this up

There is no possible way to fuck it up

[halcyon flame]

Time to cough up so
E mats

[silver mulch]

question to y'all

would you consider integrated strategies as "end-game content"

[nocturne cape]

of course

[prime mountain]

it requires a full roster of unit

very clearly endgame

try to rob cannot
very first fucking enemy gets buffed and murders roberta

[nocturne cape]

uhh for E1 entel rob

you need to roll the -30% max hp coin

[prime mountain]

I did!

[nocturne cape]

on D15 at least

[prime mountain]

😭

I have nothing else but -30 active, 0 debuffs

[faint rampart]

dumb question but is there supposed to be a debuff or something which reduces its limit?

[faint rampart]

wow no raidian

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/730658830169669662.gif

[prime mountain]

high diff

Ok I am never doing ente e1 solo rob again

cannot just buffs the enemies and its like whoops you die

Imagine immortal enemies with like 1500 attack

gameplay!

[nocturne cape]

entel needs to be above statuegeist

[faint rampart]

yea but it usually stays at 4 unless i havent checked something

[nocturne cape]

roberta in the middle and use spin to kill

and also dont do this to yourself

its a torture

you die if cannot rng goes wrong

[prime mountain]

What if I like torturing myself

toughts?

[nocturne cape]

then join me

[prime mountain]

no its 3 default

[nocturne cape]

in tourist entel start

raidian exu wis ban

[prime mountain]

THATS WHAT I WAS DOING

🤝

[nocturne cape]

i would wait for swire first

ngl

[prime mountain]

Ok but toughts on allowing e1 raidian and not using her just to get the passive buffs

[faint rampart]

what the hell

[burnt hamlet]

any tips to make a10 enlightment easier?

[nocturne cape]

uhh put down raidian next to the boss the moment the stage starts

her skill should be up before talisman

unless its -30% sp

[burnt hamlet]

lol it is indeed -30% sp

[nocturne cape]

fishes will take out the boss, just need a healer to keep raidian alive

grr

in that case you need to try to clear the tlaisman on raidian

with your other ops

[burnt hamlet]

pain in the ass part is my wis aint e2 yet just got her last candlelighting

[prime mountain]

Wis still has good hitcount at e1 should be fine

[craggy shadow]

Declare my Foldartals

[prime mountain]

Holy shit its john is4

!

[nocturne cape]

honestly if i see -30% sp and fisherman ill try to grab a u-official on F3

it is pretty annoying if raidian is your only carry

[gaunt bay]

Hi cube

Hi furrilo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1402673279751294998/pukot.gif

[prime mountain]

Hi kiwi

[gaunt bay]

Whats wrong

[nocturne cape]

hi kiwi

[gaunt bay]

[lapis mesa]

I DID IT. THANK GOD. IM DONE

[burnt hamlet]

not my only carry i do have Trag

[lapis mesa]

[nocturne cape]

yeah unfortunately trag doesnt really help on this stage

[prime mountain]

He kinda just like dies

[burnt hamlet]

yeah ik

bleh

[sick mason]

I tried looking for this stir-fry the whole time

Just got it in floor 5 damn

[prime mountain]

Wtf is this shop

better than my highrolls damn

[faint rampart]

restarted the run and its still 3
no way ive been schizo and thought its 4 all this time

[prime mountain]

Yep

This is what playing IS does to your brain

cant even read numbers properly

[sick mason]

Time to rob

[prime mountain]

f5 Rob is hard, are you sure

[sick mason]

Yeah these fuckers are the primary cause

They obliterate my right lane so fast

[prime mountain]

😃

[nocturne cape]

raidian +1

if you dont start raidian you have 3

if you do you have 4

[faint rampart]

oh

[prime mountain]

No cube dont tell him, let him be schizo

[faint rampart]

:ReallyMad:

[nocturne cape]

[faint rampart]

almost convinced me smh, thanks cube

[stray dove]

What stuff do you get from getting Liu'er's relic and then visiting a Legend node?

and which Legend Node specifically?

[prime mountain]

It just occured to me to start drafting around bosky shops since you can see which coins are in there and just come back later

[sick mason]

This is gonna be the most amount of aspd I ever have in IS6

WHOA

[prime mountain]

pretty colors!

[sick mason]

Even though I want the dream curio coin to be tossed (-40% SP cost)

But eh this will suffice

[prime mountain]

Tourist squad experience

[sick mason]

Tourist squad in a nutshell indeed

But you have profound silence (-20% HP) relic at least

[prime mountain]

Simply roll -45% hp risk coin and win

toughts

[shy solar]

can i one shot Yi with Leizi phase 1 and 2 diff 5

What i need to do

[prime mountain]

Try to not get one shot yourself

[shy solar]

also im wondering the +100% atk, sp, dp, hp tongbao always affect Leizi? I thought it was random but every combat it always go to Leizi

[prime mountain]

Its random but doesnt actually change on a per fight basis sometimes, prob just pseudo rng being weird

[stray dove]

I tend to not use that coin if it's Ed2.

[shy solar]

oh so random on toss rather than per fight?

[prime mountain]

nono thats a really old bug with effects of this type

[burnt hamlet]

i miss plans letting me reroll dogshit stages
i was not prepared for emergency* dusk stage at all at A10

[shy solar]

its a surprise mechanic hg classics

[arctic panther]

end of times it

[burnt hamlet]

idk what that means

[prime mountain]

Eot is a relic that just makes you not lose a fight once

[burnt hamlet]

ah i prolly shoulda got that when i had the option to lol

[faint rampart]

can start with it from a squad iirc

[burnt hamlet]

i did ask for what kinda squads i should start with and whats the best way to squeeze sui dreamland dry

[prime mountain]

The anwser is always simply raidian

💀

[nocturne cape]

EM Greenhill is one of the hardest F5 Em

[burnt hamlet]

didnt you say thats not the case in 6 months after a new ending is added

[nocturne cape]

every enemy is giga buffed

[halcyon flame]

ballsack

ballsack everytime

[burnt hamlet]

wut

[nocturne cape]

also alyssal im joining you in attempting 23+4D

playing my first run rn

just to warm up before dlc2

[halcyon flame]

thats my goat

first class?

[burnt hamlet]

27D exists?

[nocturne cape]

least schizo draft

[halcyon flame]

i see a vision

[sick mason]

Dang it's a Sakiko

[prime mountain]

Yo what squad is that

[nocturne cape]

red coin squad

new squad from dlc1

[sick mason]

Red coin?

[prime mountain]

What do

[sick mason]

So that squad is like the more risk coin owned, the more benefit?

[nocturne cape]

when at least 1 risk coin is tossed, more chest are spawned in combat

start with dream curio

start with 'Interdependent Luck'

[prime mountain]

Oh my god

the coupons

🤤

huuuuuuuuuuuh

naran but not candle

grrr

[sick mason]

Start with dream curio? -40% SP cost from beginning babyyy

[nocturne cape]

yeah

the squad effect is pretty easy to understand

[sick mason]

Also more chest spawned in combat so basically it doesn't discriminate which chest type...

[prime mountain]

Mimics on their way to ruin your ass:

[nocturne cape]

yes you will see more mimics

[sick mason]

Plain, dmg reflect, or even the one who moved and hit like a truck

[nocturne cape]

in fact i had to leak 3 on F1 because mimic spawned on my original hoshi spot

[prime mountain]

The evil f1 unavoidable mimic on its way to insta lose:

[nocturne cape]

but yeah basically playing the same rule as alyssal

2+3 and must take ending 4 debuff on my first bosky entrance

[sick mason]

Initially I couldn't see the difference between those 3 chests

[nocturne cape]

and try to ban some ops to make it fun

[faint rampart]

💀

[burnt hamlet]

i look at this chat mostly to try and learn from the players that are better than me, but a lot of times it's inside jokes and inside knowledge terms and acronyms which makes it hard to pick up details and ideas to improve while theyre cleaing d15's with their eyes closed

[prime mountain]

Survivorshipbias.png

We dont post the failed runs 💀

[burnt hamlet]

buddy up there is literally banning ops for himself

[flint token]

doesnt mean his ass isnt getting wacked by f6 emer left and right

[prime mountain]

I still havent cleared d18 is5 2a45 alt, I cannot consider myself good at this game

[prime mountain]

???????????????????????????

Surprisingly kal is the pick now

[burnt hamlet]

2a45

[prime mountain]

Ah yes

[burnt hamlet]

idk what 2a45 even means 😭

[prime mountain]

2a being second ending of is5, a being alt version that is hard as fuck, 4 is quilon fight, 5 is amiya fight

all in the same run

t3 being highest tier amiya fight

[halcyon flame]

usually number sequences like that refer to endings

in IS you can usually do 2-3 endings in a single run

varying on different conditions across IS themes

in IS6 context 23+4D refers to doing ending 2 and 3 while taking a debuff relic from ed4

[prime mountain]

Alyssal, I feel like we're brainwashing this guy

[halcyon flame]

an a following a number (1a, 2a, 3a) means we're referring to an alternate version of the ending stage

[halcyon flame]

its not brainwashing!

now shut up before i make you disappear in cuba

💢

[nocturne cape]

cuba is oddly specific

[faint rampart]

[prime mountain]

Crazy reference

[halcyon flame]

🤫

[prime mountain]

Bro is gonna get 1984'd

[halcyon flame]

"nope im too important for them to get rid of" - some jobber's last words circa xxxx

[prime mountain]

9 sp skill 💀

[sick mason]

Should've just go for S3

[prime mountain]

Nope you didnt see the vision to bring rat into range

!

Holy fuck the dragon does like 10 loops

[flint token]

what’s the angle on bringing canta over surfer for ammo relics

[prime mountain]

The angle is dont cause you run s1 anyway

[flint token]

what if dream curio tho!

[halcyon flame]

ed3 relic would like to have a word

[halcyon flame]

damn

u got rang through

ran

[nocturne cape]

is mod2 archetto is cursed

[halcyon flame]

wtfart

[nocturne cape]

yep

57% trust

[sick mason]

REEEEE

[gaunt bay]

bro isnt trustworthy

[nocturne cape]

Perhaps

[remote badger]

might be

[nocturne cape]

Dream Curio Silverash Alter is something

[silver knoll]

Does the fishing old man like me or sth..?

I met him on 3rd floor like

5 consecutive runs already

Another run another Enlightment I guess

[craggy shadow]

Declare my Foldartals

[burnt hamlet]

getting 3 terrible runs in a row really makes you wanna quit it's insane

and its at the piss easy difficulty too like wow

[remote badger]

pretty normal

[nocturne cape]

Happens

[static nova]

can you get ending 2 and 3 at same time? anyone know this?

[silver knoll]

I have like 6 runs so far encounter enlightment

[burnt hamlet]

normal at higher diffs not a1

[remote badger]

yes

[heavy pumice]

dw
it happen all the time
me when have 5 consecutive lost :icant:

[silver knoll]

Dude killed my run most of the time

[remote badger]

me when about 50 loses in a row

[burnt hamlet]

i cant even get raidain fucking E2 i assure you im in much worse waters

[nocturne cape]

If anything IS6 lower diff is harder

Imo

[burnt hamlet]

i can see that honestly

[remote badger]

d2 is still easy

honestly everything get piss when d8+

[heavy pumice]

take it easy
IS is punishing and demanding when we talk high difficulty

[burnt hamlet]

yeah im aware its easy
so that makes sucking at it even worse

[floral mist]

If anything that goes from minor to major threat, is the Talismans, especially at D15

[remote badger]

sudden -atk

into death

[floral mist]

Then, Burn damage and AOE seal

like, TF MAN

[heavy pumice]

keep playing and learning is the best advice i can give :ya:
good info is.. many way to beat it and bad one is how to find the correct way to do so

[remote badger]

remember losing is fine no one blames

[burnt hamlet]

is my trag start just terrible or something cuz at this point i cant even make a dent into d2 with trag and its not like im some dumbass playing ak for the first time, im familiar with IS Bs when i was trying to climb d11 is3 and is4

idk whats up with is6 that just doesnt click well with me like the other IS do. hit count shit i guess

[remote badger]

maybe

try exualt

[burnt hamlet]

is5 had the pacifist run cheese so i kinda just cheated there

[heavy pumice]

maybe idk
me myself didnt play it again (IS6) after the tutorial :ya:

[silver knoll]

I just spam the tragodia shield stacking method to pass difficulty

[floral mist]

Tragodia is a good start, one of the best even, but i think he's just kinda screwed over by the fact that IS6 had so many enemies that need hitcount

[prime mountain]

Ok but then you draft ente

and somehow you have no weakness

[floral mist]

Brah, the context is about Trag, not Ente

[burnt hamlet]

the stage that always gets me are the one with the Cannon that shoots enemies and the one where you have to put blocks donw before you can even afford vanguards just for the first enemy to leak 2 cuz you didnt afford a hit count op yet

[prime mountain]

Me when a unit cant solo the whole gamemode and requires help...

[heavy pumice]

furniture... yeah its either bring someone dedicated to it or just leak them :ya:

[remote badger]

try using like special squad

[rapid pulsar]

But what if I have no tragodia and so can’t draft him later on

[burnt hamlet]

i have been

[remote badger]

ofc the stage itself for me its pretty easy to get a leak

[nocturne cape]

His cat has a decent amount of hitcount tbh

Aoe too

[floral mist]

True, but you honestly need more than that tbh

[burnt hamlet]

yeah but by the time i afford him and charge him, it leaks. i hate that stage where u place the blocks

[floral mist]

It would probably be help if you had Law and Order tossed

[burnt hamlet]

it's like you HAVE to leak some, so ur screwed if you dont have surplus lives

[nocturne cape]

Who else do you usually draft?

Maybe we can figure something out

[heavy pumice]

how much hit needed to kill furniture at d15+?
is it 10 or more?

[burnt hamlet]

i usually have exualt and wis and trag

[slate hull]

the stage with blocks can be done with just raidian and ethan if you place 3 blocks on the left side and make all enemies go in a line on the right side

[burnt hamlet]

i always gotta leak at least 3 or 4 lives in the block placing stage

[faint rampart]

[burnt hamlet]

ONE time i didnt have to and i got lucky to get ines that time

[nocturne cape]

Well if you really hate that you can always start Trag Beanstalk Ethan

Or Myrtle

Ethan S1 should help with the stage

[rapid pulsar]

Does deepcolor ever get picked for starting or is Roberta always better?

[burnt hamlet]

i place myrtle and 2 blocks, thats when the first 2 furniture come in. if she kills one, thats 2 extra leaks cuz she cant hit them in time. i would place ethan but then do dp and no gaurntee he even kills them

[heavy pumice]

the different is ethan required more stat in IS (no idea if in low difficulty e0 ethan work)

[burnt hamlet]

so i started to just say fuck it and leak the first 2 funiture

[faint rampart]

maybe block position

[floral mist]

Honestly, you bought Ethan mostly just for the Hitcount enemies

[burnt hamlet]

i put the blocks left and below blue square

thats usuallty where i see others place them

[nocturne cape]

You can also try bottom right and above red box

When the first furniture move towards the right drop the roadblock so it waste some time changing pathing

[burnt hamlet]

i guess ill try that i mostly try to follow what those a15 freaks do cuz they clearly know more than me at what theyre doing

im convinced at this rate even raidan would help there if i cant afford her and the summons in time in future runs

[faint rampart]

i remember seeing placement for it in IS central, cant find it anymore

[burnt hamlet]

its really hard to find anything further than 5 days

[faint rampart]

time to copy runs from dalaos

[heavy pumice]

ohh, off topic minos event soon huh
perfumer2 being suporter :icant: this look worrying
hope i am wrong

[burnt hamlet]

idk who that is

[faint rampart]

uh oh sorry, just a funni term

[worn lichen]

I am one

Trust

[old geyser]

for Feng Shui, start Myrtle, then roadblock on bottom row preventing the enemies from coming straight through, second roadblock forcing them to go all the way around the top left, then Raidian, then place Raidian's s2 summons on the second row facing left into the chokepoint

[lapis mesa]

I finished is4 thank god. And no it’s nothin to be proud about it

[slate hull]

I have learned something new just now, I have been doing 3 roadblocks in a different arrangement, but you can do this

do the crabs fall in the hole if you do this?

[burnt hamlet]

wdym finished

like all endings at d12?

[lapis mesa]

Fuck that! Finished all endings and trim. If I’m gonna do d12 I would be asking for death. Which I will soon but my goal is to complete what we can already get in terms to medals and score

[burnt hamlet]

i thought the medals change to their final color at d12

the squad medal colors i mean

[stray dove]

I would still prefer this because letting blue box have potential diagonal opening just feels like ass to defend sometimes especially when furnitures could float to diagonal

[slate hull]

move the bottom box one to the right and that is almost what I have been doing, I put a line of raidian summons with ethan in the middle over on that 5 tile line on the right + whatever else I have in my squad on the ranged tiles

[stray dove]

I prefer the bottommost box as is

cause moving it left or right just adds more openings or paths for them to exit out of

[slate hull]

yeah, diagonal line is better than what I had, I can see that now

[lapis mesa]

Well idk if that’s the case but I would have to do that later. Rn I need to finish is5 and continue on is6

[burnt hamlet]

what do i even do here bro 😭

they suckin me out of all DP before i could place anything lmao

[urban isle]

You don't

[rotund copper]

Is there any info on perfumer alter

[sick mason]

... You need huge DP boost or Ines

[urban isle]

No like seriously

[rotund copper]

it's a trap

[slate hull]

yeah, you don't touch this stage unless you have the +99dp coin or some insane relic combo like free vanguards or raidian with free summons

[urban isle]

This stage and the 4 difficulty the 4 enemy version

Basically fucked

[rotund copper]

Unless you have dp relics or firstwordfall coin

[burnt hamlet]

lmao ill remember it next time i didnt know it's a troll stage

[faint rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1413566253506760724.png

[burnt hamlet]

funny one tho

[rotund copper]

Always check the enemy list once you encountered them

[urban isle]

Anyway

Something something

Ground op fucking ass

Like the uhh

[burnt hamlet]

i only like Ulpianus and Ines these days dude, so i getcha

[urban isle]

The stage with drone or mass travel enemy

[urban isle]

Good ground op in is6
Hmmm

Shu maybe?

Ines is definitely

That about it tbh

[burnt hamlet]

lol

[urban isle]

I mean leizi alter is on the table

[urban isle]

WTF DID GAME GIVE ME 5 DEFENDER VOUCHER
I DON'T EVEN HAVE SHU

[slate hull]

she is ground even if she doesn't like touching it, her range is really nice to have

[urban isle]

Eww
Micro

Dies

[burnt hamlet]

still havent got past a1 to e2 raidain my man i wouldnt know

[urban isle]

Special squad
Tragodia start

Trust

S1 on raidian on yi boss

[burnt hamlet]

been doing nothing but that for 3 hours

[urban isle]

Mod 3 m9 my raidian already

[burnt hamlet]

i had to say i was on a10 earlier to get genuine stage advice instead of just "trag lol" advice

[faint rampart]

wtf deceived

[burnt hamlet]

im not wrong, it's always just "trag lol" when you say youre anything below like d6

[arctic panther]

leizi

sakiko

mlynar

[urban isle]

Doesn't exist now

[urban isle]

Mf when taliman

[arctic panther]

dont put them in the direct path of a talisman then?

[burnt hamlet]

taliman casters

taunt

[urban isle]

Okay
Ima memorized ever damn stage ingame i guess

[faint rampart]

maybe you can stream your run or something and someone will help you figure out whats wrong

[burnt hamlet]

last time i did that they said "idk your tree isnt 50% complete"

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/wisadel-waltuh-w-walter-arknights-gif-3812010922944326354

[urban isle]

First question

Are you losing at yi

Or earlier stage

[burnt hamlet]

nah i love Yi, its annoying stages to that point

[urban isle]

Show stage

[faint rampart]

oops

[urban isle]

WAIT TALSIMAN DRAW AGRO
WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING THE SPINE WISSSS

[burnt hamlet]

"just block bottom left lawl" has worked out pretty good so far, it's the constant 1 or 2 leaks i get across multiple stages until i lose

[urban isle]

EXU DON'T WASTE HALF YOUR LOAD ON THAT RANDOM ENEMY

[arctic panther]

bribe dusk in tavern node

500 objective shield

[faint rampart]

1-2 leaks from furniture enemies or its just all enemies atp?

[nocturne cape]

grabbed her on F2

[burnt hamlet]

only got her one time and i didnt have enough ingots 😭

[nocturne cape]

this is end of f5

[urban isle]

Random shut
Archetto on wang ending is really fucking fun

She hold 2 lane at once

[burnt hamlet]

furniture and that one with the hogs and enemy cannon. Oh and one time it was Dusk boss stage cuz i was an indiot and overestimated myself

[urban isle]

Got 5 defender voucher

[nocturne cape]

i did

[burnt hamlet]

"hurdur i did mizuki ending d11 with like no relics im sure i can handle Dusk a little under powered"

[nocturne cape]

6 def voucher this run

should have enough stat for ed2 thankfully

[burnt hamlet]

stupidest mistake ever

[urban isle]

Get global range nuke

Oh man

That yin and yang enemy

Leaving them alive is fineee

Touch

Explode

MY 50 DP DEFENSE

[faint rampart]

hog one is understandable...

~~if i say what i do there then ill prolly get jumped by good players ~~

[arctic panther]

tell us

[halcyon flame]

[nocturne cape]

[faint rampart]

lemme search on bili, better to parrot than misinfo

[urban isle]

Skill issues

[faint rampart]

nvm idk chinese

[urban isle]

How dare you not spend so many hours you know every way a stage can be clear with raidian alone

Raidian low diff this is bruh

And i don't wanna hear

I don't have raidian

Or anything

[faint rampart]

is it doable with e1 raidian

[urban isle]

SPECIAL TEAM

IS RIGHT THERE

[urban isle]

Yes

Fish is very strong

[slate hull]

you can also put Ethan in one of those fences in the top lane

[faint rampart]

one with reserve ops?

[urban isle]

Yes

It literally read

Start with raidian

[faint rampart]

it only seems good for the first few floors...like those reserve ops aren't gonna be useful at higher floors(prolly just me)

[urban isle]

E2 raidian can solo clear most stage

[wheat saffron]

I’m guessing if I leave the node for the second ending with the butterfly without obtaining the relic then my chances of getting it are void right?

[urban isle]

Raidian also trigger special event options

[urban isle]

Yeah

That event is the only source

So get 30 ingot

[wheat saffron]

Gotcha

[urban isle]

You could rng it
But i think the chance is kinda llw

[faint rampart]

yea, but i can just recruit my own raidian too so~

[nocturne cape]

phew

[arctic panther]

ok but then you’d have to get lucky with 2 supporter rngs to get e2 raidian compared to special squad which lets you only use 1

[burnt hamlet]

im so fuckin dumb i forgot i could just borrow a raidan to level my own raidan. would all the same buffs apply?

[arctic panther]

(and you can start with another 6* other than raidian)

[arctic panther]

all roads lead to- MINUS 2?!?!?

[nocturne cape]

the unusual number

when the game doesnt give you enough spec vouchers that you need to use robots to bait

good job friston and castle

[faint rampart]

true
having -2 hope on the 6* which already costs 7 hope sounds much better than just an e2 raidian and reserve ops

maybe bad hope management by me

[arctic panther]

how long is their redeployment time after getting stepped on?

12 years?

[nocturne cape]

like 90s iirc?

shorter than their usual rdp time

[arctic panther]

wait what

[faint rampart]

dont think she gets the proficiencies if you borrow, not sure

[arctic panther]

wait

WAIT

[nocturne cape]

yep

thats the interaction

[arctic panther]

THATS FUCKING CRAZY

[nocturne cape]

feet always reset it to the same number

[cold fjord]

yep

[nocturne cape]

robots are very decent tbh

a run of all time

[arctic panther]

never thought i’d see the day where robots get used somewhere other than low rarity clears 🥹

[cold fjord]

i mean
they are good in is3 too

[arctic panther]

you HAVE to pot6 all of them now

[arctic panther]

fr?

[woeful knot]

yes

backbone of d18

[cold fjord]

sleeper agent woken up

[arctic panther]

can they not get rejections?

or can they tank rejections for others

[woeful knot]

they cure ops

[arctic panther]

they WHAT

[woeful knot]

thats about it

bro has not read d16 mechanics

[arctic panther]

im only on d12

or d13

i think d13

[nocturne cape]

@halcyon flame
decent first attempt

now that i think about it maybe Trag start make sense

[feral scroll]

who cleared the left lane that you only have 2 leaks on ed2 fight?

[nocturne cape]

mainly hoshialter S2 since i have sp regeneration

pram alter helped a bit

just pushing the spearheads back a little

for EN right now i think Leizi or Entelechia are pretty good

Angelina too

not really a highroll game, got stir fry after ed2

[feral scroll]

ive been using ascalon but if i dont have good relics i still leak usually

[nocturne cape]

bell didnt have stack

[nocturne cape]

the problem with ascalon is she cant kill the sharpedges

shes fantastic at managing hitcount if you can kill them

but it takes her forever to kill chunky sharpedges

so generally speaking you need some help

[gaunt bay]

proof? what if you get drum chalice

[feral scroll]

i havent run into that problem its more that she dies after 2 steps and i dont have anyone there for a while

[nocturne cape]

yes, that is a problem

[gaunt bay]

whats the interaction between the dragons and pram blue box freeze btw

[nocturne cape]

which is also why Entelechia is better

she can revive and have a flat DR after that

[nocturne cape]

i have no clue honestly

[feral scroll]

dont have her sadly

[nocturne cape]

i think the dragon will consume the bluebox and enter it

well normally waai fu should keep ascalon alive too

[gaunt bay]

this operator sucks

[nocturne cape]

worst case scenario you can just retreat ascalon after every sharpedge wave

and use raidian fishes to try to take out the single spearheads

[feral scroll]

wait

how

[gaunt bay]

atk debuff

[nocturne cape]

S1 has -40% atk

[feral scroll]

ohhh

[gaunt bay]

cube do i need to e2 my waiifu

[nocturne cape]

you should e2 your waai fu for base

[heavy pumice]

not yet
only varkaris (welfare) kit that already released
expect today or tomorrow for perfumer2 kit

[nocturne cape]

smile

[feral scroll]

honestly only ever knew she was the silence frd

[nocturne cape]

but yeah the extra atk down is nice and dp refund mod is big

her module unlock mission sucks

[gaunt bay]

dude i have no lmd

this game is so mpreg

[nimble grove]

New playable fox?

[heavy pumice]

oh waai fu
yeah mod is a big thing for her

[rotund copper]

I'm lowkey thinking she would be somehow worse if she doesn't have global heal like her 4 star version unless she is a different type of support

[nocturne cape]

e1 is serviceable

so ig no rush to that end

[gaunt bay]

leaving her at e1 20

[nocturne cape]

ive been running E1 waai fu for the longest time on CN

ngl

[gaunt bay]

[wheat barn]

I won on 6

[nocturne cape]

only E2d her recently

[nimble grove]

Well, end game arknights is straight up farming lmd....

[rotund copper]

2 DAYS AND 20 HOURS

WHAT

[wheat barn]

I uh

Kinda forgot

[rotund copper]

😭

[gaunt bay]

its okay ive had like month long runs before where i took abreak

[wheat barn]

Forgor there was a run lmao, also did travelled for a bit

[gaunt bay]

🚬

[wheat barn]

Time for the game to pull out the big guns: d7

[gaunt bay]

sometimes life is just busy wcyd

[heavy pumice]

well let see what hg cook this time
its either this new ops go busted or they pick usual new sui to be the best shit

[rotund copper]

grind 1-7 for the next light year

[nocturne cape]

alright back to EN

i hate farming ending icons

[rotund copper]

There will be a new sui sibling?

[wheat barn]

You guys FARMING the endings?

[gaunt bay]

soon

[wheat barn]

Damn

[gaunt bay]

like

[nocturne cape]

uhh next month yeah

[gaunt bay]

in 2 weeks

[heavy pumice]

CNY soon enough

[wheat barn]

I thought Lunar New Year?

Which is like in Feb?

[rotund copper]

I still don't have dusk the only sui I'm missing

[gaunt bay]

it should be janurary?

[muted skiff]

tell me tell me 👏

[gaunt bay]

oh nvm

its feb

im slop im afraid

🥀

[wheat barn]

Ye, source: me Asian lmao

[gaunt bay]

wait a month ig

[muted skiff]

feb

bruh

[wheat barn]

For me it's Ling and Nian

[muted skiff]

feb 16

[nocturne cape]

yeah its a month away

[heavy pumice]

a month will go fast when all you do is grind IS6 :trust:

[muted skiff]

best source

[wheat barn]

I haven't even finished IS4 and 5 😭

[rotund copper]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-nian-dusk-saga-gif-10349633825456167057

[wheat barn]

Also how are you guys farming ending icons damn

[muted skiff]

just play

or do d12

[nocturne cape]

its a long and painful process

[rotund copper]

intense gambling

[nocturne cape]

well not much gambling tbh

[wheat barn]

I wonder why

[nocturne cape]

its just that im forced to play the squads i dont like

thats it

[wheat barn]

I never see ED2 on my good rubs

Runs

But I always see it when I am on cooked runs

[muted skiff]

draft shu

[heavy pumice]

[rotund copper]

just getting more than 2 ending is already enough for me

[muted skiff]

dont care which IS just draft shu

is3 4 5 6 shu is useful

[nocturne cape]

the process can be fun tho

[muted skiff]

for ed2

[nocturne cape]

on one hand you're forced to play squads you dont like

on the other hand you might discover surprisingly decent squads

[wheat barn]

I like tourist squad

5 risk coins go brrrrr

[nocturne cape]

well ive been farming a bit and i think First Class is surprisingly decent

[wheat barn]

Absolute cinema if you get it going

[heavy pumice]

me still finding my first tripple ed win with firework core🚬

[nocturne cape]

you have very good voucher efficiency and early game power

[rotund copper]

High ground breaching squad just pretty much stomp out everything in term of hopes spending

[nimble grove]

Anyway, I'm done with d10e3 for Raidian module. Just a little more at lower diff to m9 her.

[nocturne cape]

i think low ground breaching is slightly better

[wheat barn]

I don't have Leizi alter, is she good for this mode?

[nocturne cape]

shes pretty good

[rotund copper]

ranged unit in is6 is just better...

[nocturne cape]

but you have plenty of other guards to draft

[wheat barn]

That reminds me

How do you draft guards?

[nocturne cape]

but the best ranged unit belongs to low ground breaching squad

xd

[wheat barn]

I just can't seem to use them

[rotund copper]

fuh naw

[wheat barn]

Exia alter?

[nocturne cape]

for me its either Entel or Leizi

ngl

mlynar can work if you dont have any of them

you just want someone that can open Clarity

[nimble grove]

Raidian could solo most of the stages and there is a vid of Raidian solo d15 too.

[rotund copper]

that's what I'm saying

[gaunt bay]

raidan known specialist

[nocturne cape]

well raidian already have hope reduction

you can afford her anyway

exia is clearly the best of the rest

and specialist is also just a better class

[rotund copper]

supporter sniper and medic are the most stacked in this is6

[nocturne cape]

i dont entirely agree but am glad to discuss about it

i dont like sniper and medic

[wheat barn]

Specialists? More like Generalists

They do everything bruh

[gaunt bay]

medic has absolutely nothing lmao

[nocturne cape]

well they have something

[cold fjord]

Its ok

[nocturne cape]

kalt is decent

[cold fjord]

Titi will save medics

[nocturne cape]

rose salt is good

[wheat barn]

My GOAT Harmacists beg to differ

[rotund copper]

specialist is just exu alter from the stats I'm seeing people are just using whatever random shit they got

[gaunt bay]

fraud ass units

[wheat barn]

IS6 I think is just you either kill them before they kill you

Or you die

[nocturne cape]

people are using different specialists because a lot of them are really good

[gaunt bay]

mizuki/asca, yato, waiifu

[wheat barn]

Hopium

[nocturne cape]

you can make the case for Ascalon Mizuki Yato Waai Fu, Swire Alter coming up

[heavy pumice]

oh yeah rose salt
that s2 is goated :ya:

[wheat barn]

Just change their name into generalist bro

[cold fjord]

2026 medic vs 2025 IS

Its over for IS6

[wheat barn]

They do tons of things man

[cold fjord]

👍

[gaunt bay]

bro theres an expansion coming

its gonna be 2026 is

[rotund copper]

They didn't even make it to the most used op stats just exu alter

[nocturne cape]

on the other hand the value of supporter vouchers drop significantly after you have your Raidian E2d

[wheat barn]

Like sometimes almost half my team is specialist

[nocturne cape]

Trag is mid, Haruka isnt here yet, Ange is nicer but i dont think shes as good as the specialists

[gaunt bay]

haruka

[wheat barn]

When Haruka btw?

[heavy pumice]

play defender only

[gaunt bay]

in a few weeks

[wheat barn]

Tums mentality

[arctic panther]

trag

[faint rampart]

maybe i can stop worrying about cannot and just pray eblana comes every run

[nocturne cape]

that is true, unfortunately the "most used" stats is filled with lower difficulty clear and isn't an accurate representation

[gaunt bay]

trag is w/e

[nocturne cape]

of power level ofc

[wheat barn]

Trag stands for Tragedy the way he is a fraud in this IS trust

[halcyon flame]

[nocturne cape]

although i think EN's is looking a lot better than CN's

[halcyon flame]

Goated

[arctic panther]

whats cn’s stats

[wheat barn]

But I love the wonderland mechanic

[gaunt bay]

tbh i think its just cuz peopld had to experiment more when is6 released

[nocturne cape]

E1 hoshi start

is something

XD

[feral scroll]

i started liking her in is6 too when i realized the radian relic omega stacks her units to 8k attack by itself

[gaunt bay]

is it playable

[nocturne cape]

yeah

[arctic panther]

regular hoshi?

no

[nocturne cape]

its playable

[rotund copper]

is this finally a solid reason for me to build her

[arctic panther]

it was not regular hoshi

[heavy pumice]

seem like ange have no place in is6?

[rotund copper]

need something to use caster vouchers

[gaunt bay]

too many good supps

[halcyon flame]

Did you get her e2 by bosky

[nocturne cape]

shes usable and i like using her

[nocturne cape]

no

[rotund copper]

there are a ton of supporter items

[nocturne cape]

i got her E2d via scout

[rotund copper]

especially weight items

[nocturne cape]

i entered bosky on F3

[halcyon flame]

[nocturne cape]

she can actually handle early stages quite well ngl

i just wish i had Trag

[heavy pumice]

hmm
interesting
ange didnt lost its value so far which is good

[nocturne cape]

well its not exactly easy to make Ange bad

her IS mod is pretty insane

[rotund copper]

oh yeah I got normal phantom as temporarily recruit he is so goated with is module honestly

[heavy pumice]

temp to go back to tacfort hell but raidian exists which i hate it the most

[nocturne cape]

yep we should try raidian start in IS5

17 dp fish is something else

[heavy pumice]

yeah one of all time IS mod she have

no thanks
i am allergic to summoner

[nocturne cape]

i take it back

this is actually pretty good

pre dlc1 it was a mess

[quick pond]

Best operators for ending 4?

[nocturne cape]

Matterhorn E2

with mod

[feral scroll]

what does dlc1 actually add?

[errant siren]

End4

[faint rampart]

just using her for f1 cuz I needed some constant production of bodies waste of hope

[arctic panther]

i dont see how this is all over the place

[nocturne cape]

it makes the game easier by adding a number of QoL

[nocturne cape]

yeah this is fine now

[arctic panther]

10 trillion qol improvements

[nocturne cape]

it was pretty horrible before

[arctic panther]

what was it like before

[rotund copper]

How did eyjaberry make her way up there?

[void root]

It was like our current IS6 now

[main bison]

F5 and didn't find ed3 encounter...

[arctic panther]

why not

[errant siren]

People are lazy and afraid to not use Global heal.

[void root]

Pathfinder and Bosky node being vertically is a huge boon in DLC1

Literally here either you enter Pathfinder but cant enter Bosky due to fucked up nodes placement

Or enter Bosky without strong candles

[rotund copper]

use perfumer

[errant siren]

Don't tell me. Tell them.

[rotund copper]

What does dlc does for is6?

what did they add

[arctic panther]

that doesnt seem too bad

[arctic panther]

tons of qol improvements

[rotund copper]

🧐

[arctic panther]

like vertical paths on pathfinder/bosky nodes

[heavy pumice]

haruka low key being there
guess extra target is big improvement

[void root]

#is-station message

[rotund copper]

I can't believe logos is still in top used for some reason

[main bison]

Melee in this IS suck

[void root]

Only Leizi and Hoshiguma actually being useful in IS6

All others deadass

[main bison]

and I even think Leizi sucks

[void root]

At least she not eating talisman right at the face when deployed

[rotund copper]

She aura farm when she isn't using skill so yeah

[wheat barn]

I am saddened by that I don't see Texas, my wife

[arctic panther]

perish

[rotund copper]

She is actually pretty good

but I'm too smooth brained to place her properly

[arctic panther]

sakiko

[void root]

Sakiko is saved by her continous attack

[arctic panther]

sash2

[heavy pumice]

what can you expect from caster class?
like gg sudddenly do something

[void root]

And that def and res shred for some reason

[rotund copper]

maybe eblana could been there but Im pretty sure not that many people pulled her

could work with a ton of summons relics

[heavy pumice]

mantra not being seen there is sad but yeah i cant see mantra use case in any IS

[rotund copper]

might build eblana just for this

Because I have no one else to recruit beside lappdumb when I get caster voucher

[nocturne cape]

Theres that recent 3 op EM regular army

[arctic panther]

if you run a ton of bans maybe

[rotund copper]

Logos having to charge up his perish isn't really worth it for especially how many rush they do in is6

[arctic panther]

click

[nocturne cape]

But yeah mantra is kinda mid

[heavy pumice]

play eblana
she is good but too restrictive and yeah she want relics or more like relics are mandatory for her

[rotund copper]

I would be already strong enough I have no reason to recruit click unless I play with a squad that starts with caster

[arctic panther]

click

[cold fjord]

mantra when tragodia with +50% atk demolishes the stage:

[rotund copper]

fuh naw

Just 50%?

[nocturne cape]

Unironically the best caster is medicmiya

[main bison]

she sucks period

[cold fjord]

yes

[heavy pumice]

i would even dare to say mantra is the best primal caster
but.... its primal caster :icant:

[cold fjord]

it just needs a few other goobers

[rotund copper]

She can obliterate talisman for free

[main bison]

waste of an hour

[rotund copper]

Where is ur metal expedition drum

Purestream propaganda

[fast wasp]

redundant ahh

[faint rampart]

first time em feng shui

[cobalt hollow]

Recommended M3 skill on Mizuki and Leizi for IS6?

[gaunt bay]

S2 for both

Leizi s3 is also worth

S1 has niche use

[oak birch]

i'm baffled

[nocturne cape]

unfortunate

[rotund copper]

Banana is suffering

[rotund copper]

Is this ur first time

[oak birch]

first time on the stage, sure

[rotund copper]

?

[slim estuary]

Wait

Why im here?

[rotund copper]

[faint rampart]

what she deserves for costing 42 dp :ggnod:

[faint rampart]

suffer

[oak birch]

?

[rotund copper]

it's just ur phrasing making it sound like sarcastically not ur first time

[oak birch]

well i've tried this ending b4

but didn't get the stage cuz yk

stupid bosky encounter

[rotund copper]

It's probably better for sharpedges to just leak straight without stopping them

[nocturne cape]

-17 is the easiest strat

eventually you'll know how to deal with left side to at least prevent some leak

[rotund copper]

Deploy ascalon

[arctic panther]

thats why you -17

[rotund copper]

[oak birch]

unless ur a dumbass like me and managed to leak some in other lanes

[arctic panther]

lanehold better

[rotund copper]

why is ur op so low

you should have recruited some fodder from vanguard or guard voucher

[oak birch]

was that actually low

i thought raidian is basically 2-3 ops

[rotund copper]

but u let her die somehow

[oak birch]

well yea, boss is half HP

nvm i should bring some more ground next time

[old geyser]

just show up to the fight with 50 objective shield

[rotund copper]

Show up with 200

[oak birch]

lady luck isn't on ur side, no moth encounter

[nocturne cape]

just show up with 105 LP and sleep

[old geyser]

200 requires going out of your way, 50 can just happen without even aiming for it if you have a lot of hope/ingots to burn at leisure nodes in f5 wonderland

[rotund copper]

It's guaranteed to be there just clear ur bosky

[faint rampart]

if only i could get so much

[oak birch]

or just don't focus on one path

[sinful sparrow]

you should play tourist squad with raidian ban

[rotund copper]

It's in the range of 5×5 nodes

[sinful sparrow]

on CN

[nocturne cape]

Nah

[compact gorge]

Completed this at last
Lappland doing better than logos
I should reconsider my caster priority

Very easy ending (i had 400 aspd)

[nocturne cape]

I like red coin squad

[sinful sparrow]

i tried gvg yesterday and i ate shit to f3 boss

[nocturne cape]

More fun

[sinful sparrow]

giga lowroll

what even is the red coin squad’s starting coins

Outside of -40% sp

[nocturne cape]

Dream Curio

Thats it

You start with dream curio and the normal 4 debuffs

[sinful sparrow]

i take it that you enter bosky F3 to start scaling?

and not f2?

[nocturne cape]

I can enter it on F4

[rotund copper]

Should have given law and order too smh smhhdmdjhf

[nocturne cape]

Since squad effect gives me coupon outside of bosky

Im in no rush

[sinful sparrow]

ah

imma go back to try gvg

And enter F3

[nocturne cape]

The angle is wait til swire

[oak birch]

hm

[nocturne cape]

I dont like GVG before Swire

[sinful sparrow]

i was playing on CN

[nocturne cape]

Oh

[sinful sparrow]

i entered f2 right

[nocturne cape]

Should be easy then

Well

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and it took me 2 attempts for the corrupted knight map

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F2 works

You dont have to

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3 fucking attempts for the is2 minibosses + cloud dragons map

sakichan f2 when 30% def

😢

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i dont have to what

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You dont have to force f2 bosky

The only squad that should be forcing f2 bosky is defsupp

Since theyre usually fine under any epoch

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how broken is hoshi raidian

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Very

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imma be fr i dont like -30% sp into some bosky maps

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You saw my e1 hoshi start

Thats saying something

Hoshi is such a goated unit early

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ufo + bombers and Strange Tales are the two that comes to mind

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Shes damn useless later but still

Well

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nope shes goated for ed2 left!

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Late game shes just a S2 bot

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errrr we dont talk about what happens if you lowroll

god i miss my ascalon yato

CN doesnt have ts

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Yep my archetto on CN is mod2