is-station

[winged kelp]

Reduce it to half HP

[alpine sparrow]

but just once is enough, right?

[inland elbow]

yeah, you only need to get it to half once, hp carries over between stages

[alpine sparrow]

i didnt pay attention to when the final trigger appeared

[alpine sparrow]

👍

[inland elbow]

by comparison, s3 is 110k total and a way worse cycle

and doesn't hit both at once

[alpine sparrow]

sigh
i still hate the idea of "full leak on left side"

but geists...

[winged kelp]

Where's your guide on this one?

[halcyon flame]

Dawg do you even know wtf ur talking about

💀

[lost anchor]

Bro literally told you how to use wis 🥀

[winged kelp]

I barely use Wis on my life. I'm not underestimating S2. It just that to think such simple trick works on most disgusting stage ever made.

[inland elbow]

ooc is a hard stage, but it's very fair

[winged kelp]

It's insanely unfair

[inland elbow]

it asks you to deal with the throwers to open up deployable tiles

and gives you the tiles to do so

if I had to make a complaint at all about it, it'd be that the bottom lane is a little toxic since it has no good ranged tile

but I think a map punishing you for going all in on ranged ops isn't a bad thing either

the standard solve for this stage is wis, angelina, weedy

wis handles top with angelina

and weedy on s2 basically solos bottom

[halcyon flame]

IS3 is a beauty because of the sheer schizo it brings out

Look at an IS3 players account

And you’ll see the most diabolical raises

[inland elbow]

my account is normal trust

[halcyon flame]

Surely

[winged kelp]

Yea.. ppl be playing by eyeballing textbook like that.

And then calling the stage fair

[halcyon flame]

I mean wis ange weedy are standard drafts if ur playing high diffculty

[woeful knot]

wdym my account is very normal

[inland elbow]

I mean yeah, if a stage is hard, you either need to put in the brainpower to learn how to solve it

[halcyon flame]

And not playing self imposed bans

[inland elbow]

or you learn from other people

[halcyon flame]

Gae a-

[inland elbow]

and likely both

[halcyon flame]

It’s most fun when people come together and bang their heads against a wall to solve it

[lost anchor]

if you can just wing d18 hardest stages, it wouldn't be much of a challenge

[halcyon flame]

all for a spike chest to fk you anyway

[inland elbow]

true, so called optimal wis placement when the spiky chest spawns

[halcyon flame]

[inland elbow]

can't wait for when I finally get left side spawn for em mm

and then the spike chest spawns

[halcyon flame]

Smile

Get that emote ready bait

:baitwhiff2:

It’s happening

[winged kelp]

I use everything but Wisadel. This latest run I don't care any shit included Wis and goes for yolo only to get fked by OOC without understanding modern meta.

Out of hundreds of my IS3 run I probably use wisadel for like four

[inland elbow]

do you think the hardest difficulty of a game should be easily doable if you don't know how to play really well?

[halcyon flame]

If it’s not Wis then it’s ros or Lemuen from ur sniper voucher then

[halcyon flame]

The general community seems to think so because of IS5 and 6 design

And IS4 nowadays because D15 stats

[winged kelp]

I learn but not by video btw. I just think as hard as I could whenever I encounter the stage. It's like I don't want to solve a puzzle by looking at the solution

[inland elbow]

d18 is4 for all the relicless clears to be obsolete

[halcyon flame]

Trust bait

Well lock in when it happens

Bring glory to EN

[woeful knot]

oh yeah im logging in

[inland elbow]

yeah I mean that's fine. I like to experience stages blind too

sure senz

ooc is a hard puzzle, but most people seem to get stonewalled by it a few times and give up

when the solution is truly as simple as knowing how to manipulate wisadel revenant spawns

and using s2

[winged kelp]

It's literally what every stage on Arknights works bruh. It's a puzzle. But finding out the correct placement and correct ops is what makes it hard.
That's why by looking at guide.. you are looking at solution. You literally cheated the game.

[lost anchor]

you're talking to the guy who made the guide alledgedly

[halcyon flame]

Yea well unfortunately a lot of things are solved by brute force

[winged kelp]

Yes.. today Arknights is not so tower defense strategy

[inland elbow]

the wisadel thing was found by CN by some giga relicless players

[halcyon flame]

The moment there’s any diffculty the playerbase cries its heart out

[winged kelp]

I believe he is guide maker. His confidence told ne

[inland elbow]

my video will take a bit

[halcyon flame]

[lost anchor]

IS give you some leeway on guides cause you may or may not be stronger

[inland elbow]

by a bit I mean, when I get off my ass to finally grind it out properly

[halcyon flame]

You mean FUK’s video will take a bit

[inland elbow]

true!

[halcyon flame]

Don’t worry 66% gay will live on in memory

[winged kelp]

Anyway today is new monthly. CN probably will get the 5th ending

Or soon this week

[inland elbow]

I think CN is getting the next expansion in a month?

we'll see how it goes

[winged kelp]

It's on January iirc

[ionic kestrel]

i think so too

[winged kelp]

Next month is Sui sibling banner

[ionic kestrel]

dev notes

[winged kelp]

Where's the note again

[ionic kestrel]

bili reddit

[inland elbow]

I remember when we decided that team name wasn't good because it was unprofessional

and then we picked another unprofessional one

[halcyon flame]

Wdym!

[inland elbow]

excellent

[halcyon flame]

Fortunes Unfavored Knights goes hard

FUK is just a inside joke

[inland elbow]

the unfavoured part refers to you

[inland elbow]

I'm filled with favor

[halcyon flame]

Yea?

[winged kelp]

Mid January actually

[halcyon flame]

What happened to the previous 3 mech runs

I don’t think fortune favored means getting right side spawn

[inland elbow]

storing up rng

[halcyon flame]

Damn your skill cycle sucks wtf

[inland elbow]

I'm the wisadel s3 of EN fr

[halcyon flame]

Yep I’m S2 glad we agree

[inland elbow]

do a lot of damage, do a lot of things, explode to shitty spiked chest rng

terrible cycles

[supple vector]

how hard is this one? never saw it until now

[halcyon flame]

Damn so does that make Senz and fib ur revnants

[inland elbow]

yep ur my 3rd

[remote badger]

so do i just need to ping bait then go watch the whole thing

[halcyon flame]

Nope

Im the stun rng

[winged kelp]

Show the map layout

[halcyon flame]

Oh that one’s easy

Do you have raidian E2

[remote badger]

s3 then sleep

[winged kelp]

Is this the stage with dual Big bob on it lmao

[inland elbow]

alyssal advice

[woeful knot]

why is there no p6 wis in ur fl bruh

[inland elbow]

good point senz

let me dm my whale friend

[woeful knot]

ok nvm found one

[supple vector]

oh ok

[main bison]

I still don't understand why sometimes Yi melts, and other times he doesn't

[halcyon flame]

Bro wcyd

IS6 is the radian show

[inland elbow]

???

[halcyon flame]

Either free jobber stages or fights for your life

[inland elbow]

mfer I just finished dm'ing the guy

[woeful knot]

i was refreshing for 10 minutes bro

just fucken showed up now

[halcyon flame]

Everytime I think about fib not being able to name 3 F1 stages I smile

[remote badger]

wait really

[halcyon flame]

It was p funny

A “shit I’m being put on the spot” moment

But funny nonethless

[remote badger]

hes clearly felling off gradually

[inland elbow]

bro I thought it'd be like a softball question that he'd answer

he sputtered like me in an interview

[halcyon flame]

Generational fumble I can’t lie

😭

Bro forgot maids somehow

[sinful sparrow]

h

[stray dove]

Stamps are complete at least.

[flint token]

genuinely dont wanna collect the stamps coz some of these are straight up ass

[arctic panther]

sometimes you arent highrolling enough

[sonic sable]

Happy new year everyone. Life has not been easy in past few months but arknights and this channel has helped to keep my anxiety in control from time to time. Thank you everyone

[zenith fable]

What's the best way to beat this stage

[errant siren]

Raidian or Tragodia.

Don't have either? You're dead.

[zenith fable]

What's the plan for Radian? I'm not sure where to place my ops since they get eaten or have no line of sight and the plants will just overrun me if I hit them

[errant siren]

Either near bluebox or from sides of Screaming Flowers.

You need to wideopen upper side of center to shot down Cannibal Flowers with ease.

[zenith fable]

hmm im gonna have to watch some playthroughs for these trickier maps , i just got rolled over again

[wicked sandal]

summons

or global range

trag made this stage rlly ez

[wicked sandal]

sides facing inwards

[zenith fable]

wont the flowers just aggro and run to blue box

[wicked sandal]

yeah but u gotta kill them first

[tender chasm]

whats the 'promoted via combat' actually means? i had promoted 1 candleguest from e1 to e2 after battle but i don't see any change here
i think it happen too on the similar relic that require via combat but i don't remember the name

[wicked sandal]

bec if u place them anywhere else the hungry flowers will eat ur fish

[wicked sandal]

pathfinder 2nd option

survive lightnings

[zenith fable]

ok im just gonna perma start with tragodia i feel like im trolling when i dont bring him first

[wicked sandal]

for 15s

[wicked sandal]

i always raidian start

just that when i get support ticket i get trag first before promoting

[tender chasm]

just that one chance? on pathfinder node?

[wicked sandal]

yeah

it's ass tbh

i don't like it

[tender chasm]

that sucks

[wicked sandal]

inefficient

and the relics that try to make it work

i mean good buffs

[zenith fable]

do you go guard support medic team?

[wicked sandal]

but only buffs a few

[wicked sandal]

tact support

for the instant e2

[slate hull]

the one time I picked that pathfinder option it gave me the big drones with bombs instead of lightning

[wicked sandal]

or high ground

or tourist

or special

idk this is has a lot of strong squads

[wicked sandal]

oh wait i just got ur question lmfao

yeah i do

raidian purestream and windscoot

2 chinese off the bat

and they're strong 4*s

[zenith fable]

ok yea i was using them following the progression guide

im trying to do the 3 diff squads at diff 7 so im out of my comfort zone using special squad nonstop

[wicked sandal]

i suggest tact support and high ground

but for that specifically

i got that by doing the m3 of each skill

the 'special' squads

sui regulator tourist and i forgor

gotta be efficient with my runs

[zenith fable]

this guide recommended regulator tourist and rites

or i guess you have to do those ? i forget

but let me just start radian and get tragodia asap like u said

[tepid urchin]

popular starting op (comp) that I can bring regardless of squad?

[nocturne cape]

Raidian Humus Purestream

[tepid urchin]

should I run special for climbing raidian before using other comps?

[gaunt bay]

hi my goat

new year soon

[wicked sandal]

yeah

[nocturne cape]

Yes, especially after youve done the proficiencies

[wicked sandal]

d7+ iirc

so it works out nicely

[nocturne cape]

Raidian before proficiencies is meh

[wicked sandal]

7 8 9 for m3 and 3 diff endings

d10 for ed3

u get the module to max instantly

[nocturne cape]

Happy early new year kiwi

[wicked sandal]

can get max raidian with 10 runs

[remote badger]

assuming ur wr is 100%

it is indeed 10 wins ,each diff have 1 successful run

[sick mason]

But then again, can you?

[stray dove]

Yeessh, Ed2 needs so much tankiness in higher diff

and I thought Sentinel or Eternity End were survival checks

[sick mason]

I really f-ing hate the ursus ufos in wonderland

They even oneshotted my Yu

[stray dove]

that specific Turmoil needs to be a F4 visit (I only visited F2 earlier most of the time)

it needs a bait and an immediate nuking if you're planning to erase it or get the drone-disabling equipment

[sick mason]

IS6 difficulty jump can be really frustrating

[remote badger]

the humble d4 bonuses

[sick mason]

I still feel like the worst one is D3 to D4 indeed

[paper kayak]

the worst jump is d14->d15 because the d15 modifier is ultra toxic

[sick mason]

Oh u mean when those talisman deals burn dmg to the ops it attached to

[paper kayak]

burn + aoe + the silence is aoe too lol + buffs ed3 + all 6stars +1 hope

[sick mason]

… Yeah I ain’t built for going that high

[paper kayak]

honestly this IS is pretty easy you might be able to

[sick mason]

I’m already frustrated enough in D10

[paper kayak]

its just gonna get frustrating fishing for highroll runs if you dont have peak meta roster

[sick mason]

When I tried to get Raidian module lvl 3 (thankfully I did it)

[paper kayak]

well the good news is that having done up to D14, yi never stopped being a total joke

[hardy grail]

Will we be able to get those the normal way when IS ends?

[paper kayak]

no

[stray dove]

That's what i learned somewhat in Turmoil. It may not have the floor scaling. But it certainly has the immediate unfairness of later floor Turmoil layouts

[paper kayak]

unless they randomly change it but I haven't seen anything suggesting they will

[stray dove]

like imagine seeing the 4 laner Turmoil with the truck in F2

and you only have 3 candleholders and no 3-blocker

[sick mason]

Actually that run was quite a miracle because in D10 ed3 run with special squad I have:

1. only 3 LP
2. No real fast redeploys
3. Thankfully I have two coins (-45% max HP to enemies but -25% to us, and -40% SP cost but auto skill activation)

And somehow… somehow I only leak 1 enemy

And the most stupid part in that run? I forgot to switch Tragodia skill

Using his S3

[stray dove]

Based on my experiences with other Ed1 bosses, he's that one boss that can wipe your ass if you mess up the stall.
I'd consider normal Fremont easier by comparison since fucking up the nuke session doesn't potentially ruin the run

[sick mason]

Thankfully my ass is saved thanks to Mlynar, Kal’tsit, Raidian, Cantabile, Surfer, Wisadel

[stray dove]

all i can say is, Candleholder stat stamp ain't enough survivability against Sui stomps

i remember also having the flower coin that increases HP based on shield (just single digits on that run)

That's gonna be integral to know what to prio in future Ed2 runs

[sick mason]

Doing 2+3 💀

[stray dove]

yeah....i can't imagine

global nuke stomps + Wang's double dipping debuffs

i wonder if IS6's 235 would technically be one of the more difficult routing experiences

[sick mason]

We’ll just see what ending 5 would look like

[stray dove]

indeed

[paper kayak]

2nd node of is4
do I brick my run for this

[stray dove]

you'll be rich af in resources that ain't LP

and power up potential King relics

how early is the run?

[sick mason]

We fought the 8th sibling (Yi) in ed 1
Fought 5th sibling’s (Jie) foot in ed2
Fought 2nd sibling (Wang) in ed3

[paper kayak]

2nd node floor 1

[sick mason]

I have no idea what is the boss for ed4

[gaunt bay]

crystal is broken

[stray dove]

why not try if you feel like the run's decent?

[paper kayak]

we shall see

[gaunt bay]

bro its turbo broken esp if you get it early

[stray dove]

sweatlords mentioned it being easier to route and go through than Wang

[nocturne cape]

Most likely

[gaunt bay]

🥀

[nocturne cape]

Having a hard time imagining how 245 might be hard

[halcyon flame]

It would be 235 + 4D

[nocturne cape]

^

[sick mason]

Ending 4 is much easier than 3?

How interesting

[halcyon flame]

ED4 is jobber

[gaunt bay]

giga resources moment

[halcyon flame]

The alter stages are jobber

[nocturne cape]

Turns out initial SP and not dying without healer is easy

[gaunt bay]

how much harder is 2a than 2

[nocturne cape]

Who would’ve thought

[halcyon flame]

What getting a free bosky does to a mfer

[halcyon flame]

Not at all

Infinitely easier

[gaunt bay]

:joyplush:

[nocturne cape]

Well

[halcyon flame]

They put a fucking killgate

[stray dove]

ngl in IS4, i'd rather fight Ed4 than Ed3

[sick mason]

Can’t wait to see how hellish it would be for IS6 ending 5

[nocturne cape]

Technically you still need to deal with the sharpedges

[halcyon flame]

Right but you could say that for 2 as well

[nocturne cape]

But its easier still because you dont have to deal with the feet at that point

[stray dove]

Sui alter only has 2 blue boxes that's easier to defend

but that means you need to solve Sharpedges

[nocturne cape]

Id say 2a is harder if you dont stall

I hate its highground tiles

[halcyon flame]

Yea but like in no world are we not stalling

[stray dove]

doesn't 2a have a killgate?

[nocturne cape]

Haruka is literally bricked

It does

[stray dove]

so you need to wipe

[nocturne cape]

Thats why its considered easier

[stray dove]

before the 2nd wave happens

oh

[sick mason]

Haruka gonna carry everyone’s ass in IS6

[stray dove]

you mean the wipe means easier transition

[sick mason]

30% base sanctuary is just wow

[stray dove]

compared to OG ed2's constant barrage?

[nocturne cape]

The wipe doesn’t interfere with the stall if youre doing it correctly

[halcyon flame]

No as in there’s a normal enemy kill gate

Not related to the bosses HP

[stray dove]

I plan on getting Hoshitter. But I'm still considering if I'm getting Haruka if I get Hoshitter first.

[nocturne cape]

If you stall the killgate at the right time you have enough RDP time for raidian or cuora to come back

[sick mason]

Hoshitter

Hoshitter is the limited one right?

[stray dove]

yeah

not like I'm in any hurry to make Supp vouchers even more sought after

[sick mason]

Support vouchers becoming more stacked

[stray dove]

it depends what the sweatlords think Haruka's value is in ISs overall and IS6

[sick mason]

Specialist vouchers skyrocketed

Caster vouchers remained fraud

[remote badger]

defsupp gaming

[stray dove]

It must've been my casual self thinking if Guard vouchers were stacked in any time

[paper kayak]

ok early crystal just let me afford tragodia

[stray dove]

i can only imagine vanilla IS2

and that was a joke anyways

[nocturne cape]

Daughter is so cute

[sick mason]

Not many guards are useful in IS6 anyway

[nocturne cape]

Happy new year dear station

[stray dove]

no i meant in IS history

[remote badger]

tru

[floral mist]

Tactitcal Fortification Squad becoming more popular

[stray dove]

was there a time when Guard vouchers were stacked af

[halcyon flame]

I’m gronked

[remote badger]

gvg

[halcyon flame]

Gonna queue IS6 on CN soon

[stray dove]

that's actually oriented to D15-18 and NOT GVG

[nocturne cape]

[halcyon flame]

And see if I can remain functional enough to play the run

[sonic sable]

Butterfly encoynter in the last node. Not even one battle lefr

[halcyon flame]

[sonic sable]

Seriously butterfly encounter rng druving me crazy

[nocturne cape]

I look forward to CNY limited

[stray dove]

Cube, should I go for Haruka in banner?
I'm asking in case I get Hoshitter first.

[nocturne cape]

I think it will be broken

[nocturne cape]

I like using both

[halcyon flame]

I think it will be too

[gaunt bay]

happy near year station! :ya:

[stray dove]

I look forward to CNY because Ling needs to go away in my Yu Burn + 4 Season Shu squad

[nocturne cape]

Ive heard some baseless rumors

But feels interesting

[gaunt bay]

whats the rumors

surely chongyue alpha

[nocturne cape]

Obviously i cant say it here

[gaunt bay]

dm!!

or send in central 🤫

[halcyon flame]

In ur cases I assume ur doing 1+4 or 1+5 at most for ur badges and clears right

[lost anchor]

nah this isn't #help 🙏

[halcyon flame]

Haruka Hoshi duos ed1 and is good into bosses

[lost anchor]

send it bru

[stray dove]

absolutely

[halcyon flame]

Like you throw Hoshi haruka in front of boss

[stray dove]

IS6 has got to have one of the most toxic Ed2 routings ever

[halcyon flame]

And go afk

In ED1

[stray dove]

and I thought BSL's shockwaves were unfair

what a joke that feels now

[sonic sable]

Also do u guys no the bug in the turmoil stage witg foresaken one? If you pull him from below he passes right through the wall and foes to blue box

[halcyon flame]

Haruka’s worth the pick up then I think

It’ll make ur en route easier to ur badges and endings

[stray dove]

I'll consider your opinions.
It really is up to when I get Hoshitter

[nocturne cape]

Unfortunately they dont help with ed2

[halcyon flame]

Ya

[nocturne cape]

Both kinda sucks

[stray dove]

maybe Haruka goes first and my decision making is no longer needed

yeah that's normal

[nocturne cape]

Haruka hard carries ed3 tho

[sonic sable]

U guys noticed it?

[stray dove]

the Foot does tile bans

nothing survives it

[nocturne cape]

Haruka is eating Exu’s safe tile

[stray dove]

her best skill range is Therapist-like?

[nocturne cape]

Thats why she sucks

In ed2

[halcyon flame]

Covers back lane, heals 3 lanes

[nocturne cape]

No, shes an abjurer

[halcyon flame]

Does damage to balls and heals

[nocturne cape]

So still cover all 3

[stray dove]

ah

[halcyon flame]

What more could u want

It’s perfect

[nocturne cape]

Quercus range

[halcyon flame]

[gaunt bay]

exu tier damage

🤫

[halcyon flame]

[nocturne cape]

If you think Quercus is comfy in ed3 shes a better quercus

[stray dove]

yeah covers nicely

the main lanes needed

[nocturne cape]

She can even clear the flaws

[halcyon flame]

And trag is ultimately replaceable en route and not good into endings

Could change with ed5

[stray dove]

Trag can't do shit in Ed2-3 anyways. But he does trivialize everything else

[nocturne cape]

I hope they dont add some bullshit en route restrictions in ed5

[stray dove]

hahahahhahaa

its like you've never done 245s before

it will

[sonic sable]

Already hating ed2 rng

[gaunt bay]

im stealing this emote

[halcyon flame]

I hope they do

[nocturne cape]

The last thing we need is petal 2.0

[gaunt bay]

welcome back petal

[sonic sable]

Wtf stealing

[halcyon flame]

They need to unslop this theme

[gaunt bay]

is6 economy too good

[stray dove]

I think I've done enough Ed1 clear practices to easily fish out every Legend node in WiW

[sonic sable]

I am stealing kiwi

[halcyon flame]

Or we’re never beating the fraud allegations

[stray dove]

that it's no longer as big of an issue

[gaunt bay]

maybe petal is a good thing

[halcyon flame]

I miss routeweave adding new enemies to stages

[stray dove]

the IS6's unique WiW and conserving vouchers do lead to higher resource econ on all categories

[halcyon flame]

[stray dove]

imagine it being another set of 2 dangerous battle debuffs

[nocturne cape]

I hope we fight Finale Chongyue and get Despair and craft it all the way to Stasis with coupons and then fish for a specific encounter to get the ending

[gaunt bay]

cube do you think we will get an ed6 for is6

or they will just drop chongyue and move on

[stray dove]

I don't think they'll go beyond Ed5

[nocturne cape]

No i think were moving on

[gaunt bay]

🥀

[stray dove]

it just makes sense that there's 2 F5 bosses, 2 F6 bosses

[nocturne cape]

see you in IS7

[stray dove]

and 1 "end boss"

[gaunt bay]

minos theme surely

or kazi

back to mly shilling

[nocturne cape]

I wish we have a kazdel themed IS

[halcyon flame]

I cooked a kazimer is7 a while back

[nocturne cape]

Where we wish for king’s set and chalice

[halcyon flame]

[gaunt bay]

37 minutes until 2026

[nocturne cape]

I should finish my cheeto ros run

[gaunt bay]

im not playing is until next year

[nocturne cape]

Im done with arknights for the year

[gaunt bay]

[nocturne cape]

NOOOO

i was playing on PC

i swapped to phone

And now everyone is on skill 1

EM greenhill

[severe oasis]

mid new year switch is the worst lowroll run ive ever had (that im still alive for)

[gaunt bay]

LMAO

[remote badger]

🥀

[nocturne cape]

Its so over

[sonic sable]

I an having problems drafting 4 yan operators for doubt nodrs

[gaunt bay]

rose

meow

[sonic sable]

Like who r the good ones

Purestream exu leizi

Thats it

[remote badger]

exualt leizialt purestream waaifu(ed2)

[severe oasis]

like i have gotten absolutely fucking nothing this run. f5 no supporter voucher, not a single relic that does literally anything, no good coins

[sonic sable]

Oj waiifu

[gaunt bay]

just take luoxiaohei windscoot

[severe oasis]

and i have 3 lp

[gaunt bay]

🚬

[remote badger]

the 4th one could be any yan

[gaunt bay]

0 hope

[severe oasis]

because i -20'd feng shui em

and theres no retrieve nodes

[gaunt bay]

el classico

[severe oasis]

and no lp from legend

[sonic sable]

Any defender yan?

Low hope?

[gaunt bay]

hoshi

not low hope

[nocturne cape]

BRUH

i thought shes on S3

[gaunt bay]

wait for hoshi alter

for good operator

[nocturne cape]

Ahhhhhh

[sonic sable]

Sigh

[gaunt bay]

if this is how your streak ends i will wheeze

also no rosdaughter skin

[severe oasis]

nah hes prob fine

[gaunt bay]

🫃

[nocturne cape]

49 relics doing god’s work

[severe oasis]

how does one get more than 25 relics consistently.

[nocturne cape]

Uhh

Ig try to not waste any candle?

Ngl under 25 feels a bit crazy

You get like 10 after f1 rob already

[stray dove]

and preserving some doubts so you can get the first option is something i consider unless it's blocking me from using candles efficiently

[nocturne cape]

30-40 should be a healthy average

[severe oasis]

how do i use candles more efficiently

[nocturne cape]

Imo

[severe oasis]

i almost never reach 40

[halcyon flame]

Ayyyy the Archetto ros m3

[severe oasis]

so im doing smth wrong

[halcyon flame]

I’ll ignore exu raidian

🤫

[severe oasis]

ive always taken every fight in bosky every run

[nocturne cape]

Yep this is for slopermed medal

[halcyon flame]

Fk you

I hate you

Don’t slander my squad

[nocturne cape]

[halcyon flame]

It’s not my fault our ops get gonked by talismem

[stray dove]

my phone's touchscreen is a bit flawed that it's either registering something to the side or is just shit that for some reason the ops on the leftmost can't be dragged freely and just goes up or down. It ruins runs enough that I only do Base and Autos in phone

[nocturne cape]

I think its hard to guess the issue

If you have a recorded run maybe we can figure it out together

[nocturne cape]

Happens

[paper kayak]

[severe oasis]

ehh i can try to record a run ?

[nocturne cape]

I assume youre not banning raidian rn rigjt

[severe oasis]

nope

only way i know how to do boskys

[nocturne cape]

My lowrolling run sits at around 35 relics, highrolling ones around 50

Most games at 40 ish

[severe oasis]

im guessing i just dont know what to prioritize in bosky

[cunning abyss]

for is6, which 6* medics are best?
:x should i focus on eyjaberry, mon, kal? when i get a med tix and already have amiya?

[nocturne cape]

Kal imo, but 6* medics are rather low prio

[halcyon flame]

Radian ban runs sit like at 26-30 relics man

[nocturne cape]

Rose salt amiya purestream even perfumer is p good

[severe oasis]

my avg is like 25-30 and i can usually only actually clear like half the nodes in bosky

[nocturne cape]

Ig dont force f2 bosky

[severe oasis]

usually reveal all but not clear all

[nocturne cape]

Its fine to do then a bit later

And when youre clearing the turmoils always think about how to kill the animals

[severe oasis]

thats fair i can almost never kill them

[nocturne cape]

And try to unlock with the 2 relics option at a doubt

[halcyon flame]

The animals are fake on some maps icl

[nocturne cape]

Yeah some maps are harder or impossible to kill

[severe oasis]

i am never killing fatty on that one with the knights

like ever

[halcyon flame]

You actually have a decent amount of time to because the drone callers take a while to move

[nocturne cape]

Strange tales’ fatty is pretty damn hard to kill

[halcyon flame]

But then again I use Archetto so

[nocturne cape]

[halcyon flame]

Strange tales fatty be fucking up my target prio

Asshole

[nocturne cape]

But stuff like confusion or to forget oneself

[severe oasis]

well hes always facing right until he comes out of stair then is directly into red box

[nocturne cape]

You should think about how to kill them

[severe oasis]

on confusion my agro always gets stolen by chopsticks

[sonic sable]

What to do when shop rob and purestream can't heal talisman burn so raidian dies

[nocturne cape]

If you have a good enough squad for confusion it should be pretty doable to kill the gopnik too

[halcyon flame]

Same with inner rage

[severe oasis]

confusion is weird for me i dont have a consistent clear for it

[nocturne cape]

Innerrage not always imo

[halcyon flame]

I didn’t even know an animal can spawn on forget oneself

[lost anchor]

wtf is happening

[nocturne cape]

Duck can spawn

[halcyon flame]

But dog is also p free in unreflecting

[nocturne cape]

On the left

[halcyon flame]

Oh nice

[halcyon flame]

It all kinda depends if you can kill the mini boss fast

[nocturne cape]

Confusion is almost impossible on F2 without good relics

[halcyon flame]

But if you cant them you prob shouldnt take it unless you have ito

[muted tundra]

which confusion

[sonic sable]

Btw u guys go bosky or pathfinder for d3?

[nocturne cape]

Any confusion

[sonic sable]

F3?

[halcyon flame]

Bosky

I’ve done Pathfinder F3 a fair amount of times and it’s just such a gamble play if ur going for ending 2 3

[nocturne cape]

The laser variant is a survival check while the masters variant is a damage check

Both confusions are hard for f2

[sonic sable]

I go pathfinder cuz idk if I have enough to kill f3 boss

[halcyon flame]

It’s good stabilization power but like it F4 and F5 pathing is cooked

[nocturne cape]

I like f3 bosky

[sonic sable]

What is confusion? That stage with 9 stautergists?

[nocturne cape]

I think its the perfect time to grab ending

(S)

[craggy agate]

does using the "return to reality" option in IS6 extinguish all candles I went in with?

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[halcyon flame]

Agreed

[nocturne cape]

Like i would straight up light a candle, and then use my remaining 2 steps on ed2 and ed3

Xd

[errant siren]

Yes. All candles will be gone, will be warning popup upon clicking this button.

[nocturne cape]

On a good run ofc

Lowrolling runs ill just do the bosky on F4

[halcyon flame]

Condensing ED3 drafts down makes it giga easy to ditch pathfinders

Because realistically you need 5-6 ops only

Which like the entry requirement is 5 anyway so

[sonic sable]

And fighting miniboss with sui feet in it?

[halcyon flame]

Yea

[nocturne cape]

Ya

[sonic sable]

Sounds scary

[nocturne cape]

It is

[faint rampart]

would virtuosa be worth picking in is6 just cuz i don't have trag for edmg or save hope?

[nocturne cape]

But you are usually fine

Id say save hope

Ive heard about 1 virtuosa ed2 left usage but that sounds mega cope

Better off drafting stuff like Ange or Shamare

[faint rampart]

so no special uses, thanks for the answer

[sonic sable]

I am guessing if i am going for ed2 the next specialist 6 star after exu should be ascalon? Or mizuki?

[nocturne cape]

Yato Ascalon Mizuki all works

Personal preference i think

[sonic sable]

I am not drafting mizuki again

Bro pulled forsaken one through the wall

[errant siren]

[sonic sable]

And i lost an attempt

[errant siren]

It's actually funny

Those walls meant to be impenetrable.

No matter how you push them.

[sonic sable]

Bro that lost attempt cost me ed2 relic probably

[paper kayak]

illusions in the sand w/ no ines

[sonic sable]

Wtf is4

[errant siren]

Ez with Wis.

[paper kayak]

me and the wis I don't have

nah exu lemuen blasted it

I just stalled the snipers for a bit with shu healing herself

to let the tower come online

[lost anchor]

does ending 1 have 2 variants?

[muted tundra]

illusions in the sand in the big 2026

[severe oasis]

do u have a recorded run so i can compare how u prioritize stuff in boskys to my own gameplay, or just tell me a general idea?

bc i feel like i barely know anything still

literally all i know about the bosky node itself is that i should take the fights

[nocturne cape]

I dont, sry

[severe oasis]

i dont know what like 75% of anything else does

or what to prio

so

[errant siren]

IS6?

[lost anchor]

ye

[errant siren]

Yes, but CN only.
There's no way yet to get Alter F5 Final Boss map in EN.

It will appear in Expansion 1.

And you won't miss it when you do End4.

[lost anchor]

I got the version where the middle mobs aren't peacocks and boss goes right side

[errant siren]

It's not alter.

In End1 Final Boss, enemy roster always differs from time to time.

[paper kayak]

I can't stack multiple +50 attack speed fordartls, right?

[woven wagon]

The mobs vary but otherwise fight is the same

[errant siren]

Like normal battles.

Alter will change enemy roster itself, the map layout and boss behavior too.

[lost anchor]

ahh

[errant siren]

As well as boss pathing.

[jade wasp]

you can

[paper kayak]

[jade wasp]

folds stack

[errant siren]

But it doesn't count as alter. It's map variation.

Like Mechanical Menace has 2 variations of spawning Mortar drone.

Either bottom left or top right.

[craggy agate]

what should I do here? the bottom right leisure is nian, and I already got the mother cauldron from her

no idea on the bottom left leisure, didn't want to try it

[faint rampart]

is it better to restart a run if you dont get two fights on f1? or encounter/wish nodes worth taking in IS6?

[hazy orchid]

Check the enemy info for turmoil

[paper kayak]

exodia

[quick pond]

What to do to beta this stage

[craggy agate]

i mean...so I get a single one (besides a beast lord) out of those there with x0-1 at random?

[paper kayak]

I've never actually beaten ED4 but this time I have tragodia, 30 ingot chalice, bunch of damage relics including anti def, only -max LP for the negative relic, uh yeah

[hazy orchid]

I'd at least retreat on floor 2, so you can get the extra kettle/etc

[faint rampart]

huh extra kettle? that one relic at the start which gives you 1 hope and LP?

[hazy orchid]

There are 2 variation of that node, one is 4 extra enemies (duck, bear, etc) with 1 actual enemy, the second is 4 actual enemy that goes to blue box quite early

[craggy agate]

and I can't know which is which until I enter?

fyuck

[errant siren]

Yes.

[hazy orchid]

Yea

[craggy agate]

I shouldn't be trying it, right?

(haven't gotten any more snipers for archetto to buff )

[hazy orchid]

Yea, generally if you want to restart, you do it on floor 2 so you can get the starting bonuses

[hazy orchid]

I mean its either battle or leisure, you dont have the life points to trade/plan

[faint rampart]

uh you mean the skill tree or something?

[rough kindle]

does this works on passive skill like from executors?

[paper kayak]

free

[hazy orchid]

If you end a run after finishing at least 2 floor, you can get starting bonuses like this

[faint rampart]

i thought it was random

thanks for the answer, really appreciate it

[heavy pumice]

should be
the problem usually how fast your speed doing so
1 second is very short window

and executors too mean pause deploy is the only viable way i can think off
sorry, its worded as passive not skill :icant:
idk about this, i have very less trust on hg translation and wording capability

[craggy agate]

LET'S GO! i have a chance at beating Yi this round

or how is the liang's explosion treated as?

[muted skiff]

melee +35% attack benefits m3tr , any knowers ?

operator mon3tr fyi

[quick pond]

Am I good for Ending 3 or should I keep tossing coins or seap Amiya?

[slate hull]

there is a section in the operator hindsight video that breaks this down, but I forgot the specifics, so I'd have to rewatch it to answer properly

but iirc she is still considered a ranged operator for most buff interactions

[floral mist]

[quick pond]

LETS GO GAMBLING

[floral mist]

Eh nah, it's Out of Control time

[craggy agate]

LET'S GO! second clear

that's an e1 ceobe on s1, BTW

unfortunately didn't get enough supporter tickets to use all those summoner relics

only the kitty benefitted, and mostly from one out of the 2-3 I had

[solemn oak]

What does this stage do?

[orchid hamlet]

Oh lol, looks like I've unlocked all the secret challenges for all 3 endings without my knowing? What were they?

[orchid hamlet]

Turns ops who are on the flower tiles into candle holders if they survive till the end of the battle.

[tribal furnace]

And that's two...

[solemn oak]

What are they fighting against?

[tribal furnace]

Fucked up a bit on Sui with the left lane (lost 17 HP i think)

[orchid hamlet]

You'll see the challenge before entering the stage. You need to read it each time. Sometimes enemies, sometimes they'll take damage every 5 seconds so you need to heal them, etc

[tribal furnace]

It depends

[solemn oak]

Damn... I didn't read the stage description

[tribal furnace]

There is three version of the lightning

[orchid hamlet]

[tribal furnace]

One that scale on HP, one on Ingot, and one on ATK

And each has a different type of dmg

[solemn oak]

How cooked I am?

[tribal furnace]

Since you don't know which lightning

You're fucked or you play it safe

[orchid hamlet]

You have only 1 healer. So idk 50/50 if it's lighting.

If enemies you don't have anti-air (idk if flying enemies can spawn)

[solemn oak]

It's still okay to put operator on the tile that's not the petal, right?

[orchid hamlet]

Yeah

You're free to do whatever but iirc you can deploy ops anymore when you start the trial?

[tribal furnace]

(put hoederer and the tank, and make them survive using exia's shield)

[orchid hamlet]

Considering the red box is blocked off, I'm betting it's lightning challenge

But my lightning challenge on that same map had 1 enemy spawn (got nuked by Walter)

[tribal furnace]

There is always lightning iirc

[solemn oak]

Somewhat survived

[tribal furnace]

Again there is three types of lightning tho

[sinful sparrow]

hoederer is6 💀

[tribal furnace]

Nah based

[solemn oak]

I do redhead so yeah

[orchid hamlet]

Nope. I had one where "ops on tile take increased phys/arts damage. Survive."

No lightning but enemies would spawn to try and attack me

[tribal furnace]

Oh ok mb

So that makes four differents challenge from what i understand...

[orchid hamlet]

Red box wasn't blocked off so enemies could spawn from them

[tribal furnace]

Btw @solemn oak , don't do.those fights except you have no voucher/hope at disposal (or bell)

[errant siren]

There's no Ling.....

Fucking Shu and Nian.

[orchid hamlet]

His boxes are blocked off, so it's lightning.

Just try it, it's still an experience.

At least now he'll remember to read the stage descriptions right? Right...?

[solemn oak]

Got it

[tribal furnace]

Problem is, you don't know before choosing to fight. You get for exemple the ingot lightning with 150 ingots... Welp

[wicked jungle]

guys is it 11 or 12 for the highest clear badge? im planning on doing ending badge collection in is6

[orchid hamlet]

Cry is the answer

[errant siren]

12

[cinder hamlet]

what is the point of the talisman in undeployable tiles is that old man fisher dumb?

[remote badger]

no

[orchid hamlet]

Body blocker for ranged ops

[cinder hamlet]

but barely any can reach him if not flingers or aoe sniper, and at that point the talisman would help more

[muted tundra]

hnnnnng

[gaunt bay]

huh

chalice coin

[sinful sparrow]

dream curie

[muted tundra]

hiiii mika

[sinful sparrow]

haiiii

:MintHype:

[muted tundra]

happy new year

[sinful sparrow]

happy new year 🙏

hope u are well

how are u enjoying is6 so far

[gaunt bay]

omg curie hai

[muted tundra]

it's flawed in places but it's becoming my favourite IS

[gaunt bay]

meow meow

[muted tundra]

meow!

[sinful sparrow]

(every IS is flawed in some places)

[gaunt bay]

pawing at u

[sinful sparrow]

🤫

[gaunt bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1434332916430672033/Pramanix_is_Here.gif

[gaunt bay]

some more than others!

[sinful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sakiko-saki-saki-chan-meow-meowmeowmeow-gif-8939185723086228210

[gaunt bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194876316156174408/1320615354648760320/00fec94e716f00917b9f6d77414c584e398933914.gif

[sinful sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158049223351222312/1435872026228428950/IMG_6136.gif

[gaunt bay]

the glorious

[remote badger]

glorious resources

[sinful sparrow]

dang i exploded shop rob again

nerd cannot keeps tossing talisman potion wtf

[copper orchid]

the one relix

[muted tundra]

the ange s3 lapp s1 technology

simply have 400 aspd

[severe oasis]

me when raidian completely ignores the talisman on her to attack an invincible bitey and fucking DIES

[gaunt bay]

lappslopper

🥀

[muted tundra]

it's lapp s1!!

not slop!

[gaunt bay]

dont carew

[severe oasis]

is lapp s1 real

[gaunt bay]

its a gateway drug

no

she has 400 aspd

[severe oasis]

im going to m9 my lapp

shes m6 r

rn

[muted tundra]

it's real in my heart

[copper orchid]

Mine is max built

[gaunt bay]

shes basically playing is5

[copper orchid]

Its surely real

[gaunt bay]

next thing you know shes drafting hoe s2

[copper orchid]

Ngl i used it ones in one of the guide

[muted tundra]

crushers....

[copper orchid]

Surely s1m3 works

[severe oasis]

i think that if you are doing something, its automatically correct. since you're perfect

[muted tundra]

oh you ♡

[gaunt bay]

[sinful sparrow]

you guys should pat each other's head

or something

[severe oasis]

i will

[muted tundra]

while meowing

even

[severe oasis]

meow meow

[muted tundra]

[gaunt bay]

rosecat

[severe oasis]

kiwicat

[gaunt bay]

my meow

[severe oasis]

meowww

[gaunt bay]

mrrp mreeow

[gaunt bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1227099740760707125/1388770005931524136/685fd83046c997e03cdd17dc.gif

[severe oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1402454863455195167/1754441678233.gif

[gaunt bay]

the mods are gonna get jealous again

quick talk about is

[remote badger]

the

[severe oasis]

umm umm is5 should be deleted

[void root]

Is2

[muted tundra]

TRUE

[void root]

[sinful sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1287981429963100281/1423895108712927334/IMG_5956.gif

[void root]

Also I failed my ed3 is6 run

skill issued

wang beated me hard

[severe oasis]

saki saki i need her now

[gaunt bay]

i got ela first tenner

saikiko will be the same

trust

[severe oasis]

i didnt

[gaunt bay]

[remote badger]

sakichan saki-

[severe oasis]

i got ela in like 50

and got fucking saga first

[gaunt bay]

marci took me like 50

[severe oasis]

i got vivi instead of marcille and then gave up

[remote badger]

i never got ela and marc

[gaunt bay]

wtf

elaless

[void root]

elaless

[remote badger]

yeap

[severe oasis]

elaless is acc perma account dmg

[gaunt bay]

slopper

[void root]

nuh uh

Ela slop

No need ela

[severe oasis]

im gonna start drafting ela in is6 instead of exu

tbh

[void root]

Only malepreg? Not even giga

[gaunt bay]

no nitro

ur gonna neet euthy to give you gigampreg

[severe oasis]

kiwi buy me nitro

[void root]

I will gift you nitro

[remote badger]

there's hyper too

[gaunt bay]

bro is familiar with the mpreg variants

😭

[sinful sparrow]

i got terampreg too

👍

[muted tundra]

[gaunt bay]

CURIE

[void root]

[gaunt bay]

😭

[severe oasis]

ill kiss you

[gaunt bay]

[remote badger]

isn't theres like 8+ mpreg variants

if i managed to remember right

[sinful sparrow]

wtf

[gaunt bay]

honestly quite incredible actually

[severe oasis]

feel like remembering how many there are is something you should be ashamed of and bullied for

[remote badger]

i still barely remember some incidents

and certain events

[gaunt bay]

ngl

saikiko feels like typical damageslop

st shit cycles no util

probably gets replaced next update or something

[remote badger]

will eventually

[tacit oyster]

How useful is Zuo Lee in A15? I've been enjoying Hoederer too much in previous ISs, but since there are no "Hand" relics, I'm looking to try out new ops.

[gaunt bay]

"previous ISs" and its just is5

[tacit oyster]

I liked him in IS4.

[cinder hamlet]

[severe oasis]

shes like cute though

[gaunt bay]

idk

not as cute as u

[tacit oyster]

I used him to kill Eikthynir at A15

[severe oasis]

meow

[gaunt bay]

meow

[gaunt bay]

💀

[severe oasis]

she may be damageslop but i fear the damage might be too high to be slop. she might be the first to outdamage the slop idk

[gaunt bay]

shes not even good enough damageslop right now

[tacit oyster]

He was great at stalling deerboy long enough to land some hits on him and then typhon finished the job

[gaunt bay]

typhon

💀

[severe oasis]

dont care if its slop. 90 op to ave mujica skins

[gaunt bay]

i usually only get the skin for the 6*

maybe some other ones if i really like them

[severe oasis]

i cant even get 90 OP before then without paying

[tacit oyster]

Yes? IS4 Typhon was great at launch. the hand relic for typhon skipped boss 2's 3rd phase and instakilled him

[gaunt bay]

the wallet technology

correction, there was nothing else viable at launch

typhon still sucked

you just avoided sniper voucher

[tacit oyster]

?

[gaunt bay]

also relying on hand in is4 is insane work

[tacit oyster]

Typhon and poz were great at IS4 with the relic of instakill

[severe oasis]

what was is4 even like pre-degen. i was still a low level genslopper at the time

[gaunt bay]

:icant:

[muted tundra]

ray saved voucher

[gaunt bay]

the "just get [relic]" tech

[gaunt bay]

mly wave clear everything

[muted tundra]

reed!!

[tacit oyster]

lots of running units

[gaunt bay]

one limbillion schwings

[muted tundra]

reed pulled crazy weight

[tacit oyster]

But hoederer at A15 was a good stall for Ed2

[sinful sparrow]

curie what do you think of reed's christmas skin

[gaunt bay]

no the fuck he isnt

[muted tundra]

oh jessica alter was a thing

[tacit oyster]

reed was also really good

[severe oasis]

bro draft cuora

[sinful sparrow]

the jessica thing was so 🫃 bruh

[gaunt bay]

back then there wasnt even crusher module

so hes literally the worst possibel option

[muted tundra]

Curator will always be my favourite

[sinful sparrow]

fair, i also love it

[severe oasis]

reed christmas skin is my 2nd fav now

[sinful sparrow]

christmas skin slightly better for me

[gaunt bay]

all the reed skins are good i think

:ya:

[tacit oyster]

he had a fuck ton of hp tho. he tanked a lot

[gaunt bay]

what

[severe oasis]

i mean if its reed i will lovr it bc theres nothing she can possibly wear that would look bad. thats just how beautiful she is

[gaunt bay]

hp only matters if youre getting 1 shot

[tacit oyster]

I was

[gaunt bay]

kinda on you

[tacit oyster]

I had HP relics constantly stacking

[gaunt bay]

defenders tanked fine

[tacit oyster]

no def or res ones like the armour

[sinful sparrow]

her artist cooked with the design

yep

giga cute

[tacit oyster]

none came

[gaunt bay]

youre literally using the worst possible option when using hoe because he has zero defense and his shelter was shit premod

[sinful sparrow]

time to play slop 2+4 with ending 3 relic on CN

i miss hoshi already

[muted tundra]

i still have a soft spot for reed e2 art

curator > e2 > christmas > summer

[severe oasis]

i originally fell in love with reed because of her design alone. before even reading her story. that only confirmed her as my fav op

[tacit oyster]

Then good thing he had so much HP to do the job with only nightingale as his pocket

[gaunt bay]

rose do u use her e2 or e0 before her skins

[severe oasis]

e2

[gaunt bay]

this just sounds like you got giga relics my guy

or ur playing low diff

[severe oasis]

i know some people prefer e0 but like. shes so happy in her e2 art

look at her

[gaunt bay]

ng has like sub 200 hp/s

[sinful sparrow]

i dont think the math is math'ing

hoe is not surviving with NG alone on d15

[tacit oyster]

A15 I guess I got locky with only getting or finding HP relics since I said earlier that no def or res relics came

[gaunt bay]

so you got lucky one run and decided hoe was a viable option

right

[sinful sparrow]

e0 for me

art is gorgeous wcyd

[gaunt bay]

even though hes quite literally one of the worst options possible

[tacit oyster]

well yeah. He was fun that IS, and he's fun this IS

[severe oasis]

ng is actually balls. once i had mlynar die to yellow king attacks with her as my only healer

[gaunt bay]

:icant:

this guy bruh

[tacit oyster]

now I'm wondering if Zuo Lee is good like I asked

[sinful sparrow]

idk i dont like him

trash ass

10 hope for what

[gaunt bay]

idk just highroll and get infinite sp relics and insane damage and he will be fun if thats how you operate

[sinful sparrow]

allat to get beaten by raidian s1 in the stalling yi competition 🥀

bro is so dogshit into 2 and 3 holy fuck

[gaunt bay]

how much shield can you stack on him

surely he survives stomps

:clueless:

[tacit oyster]

SP relics and damage. Ok.

[severe oasis]

zuo le is fine for me but i draft him in maybe 1/10 of runs and he doesnt rly do anything in sent

[paper notch]

reed chrismas skin easily best reed skin for me

[sinful sparrow]

you just need to figure out how to survive 2.8k * 3 * 0.6 (if waai fu)

[gaunt bay]

probably lives that