is-station

[tulip star]

ye take it why not

its +atck for u +atck for enemies right?

[lone oak]

replace?

[lone oak]

yes

[tulip star]

replace blank coins

[lone oak]

i have none

[tulip star]

or replace bad risk coins what buffs elites and leaders

[lone oak]

i have none

[tulip star]

idk what u have mate

[tulip star]

oh yeah its tossed already. replace it

[lone oak]

okay

[main bison]

save recruitments for the Candle node after Bosky, then your ops will be Candleguests

[lone oak]

okay so save now>

[main bison]

I usually save until F2, first node

other option is to E2 Tragodia, and recruit Raidian

[lone oak]

you mean the sui thing?

[lone oak]

why recruit her

[main bison]

yes

[lone oak]

she's e0 lv 40

[main bison]

because Raidian is like awesome

[lone oak]

but she's very low level

[tulip star]

dont rec raidian if shes low

[lone oak]

so wait about the Sui thing like do I always enter or should I save candle

[main bison]

I go in and clear/stock up

[lone oak]

so always go in?

[tulip star]

mmm... its hard to tell
if u sure u cant hold fights and u surrounded u better hold it
but its rare
clean as much ways as u can

[lone oak]

okay

[tulip star]

tbh I met it just once when on first floor I went and all pathes was blocked with hard fights
I enter back on 3th floor only

[cedar ivy]

On the first visit you get the first shop/plan asap and spend life

Then you either look for doubt or extra recruit vouchers for the first pathfinder

It's uncommon to be able to take fights on the second floor, so it really depends on your kit.

[lone oak]

which path you think i should take?

safe house or wander

[tulip star]

wander

[cedar ivy]

Emergency wander

Unless your roster is REALLY bad and you need plain levels from operations, or you think youll lose to emergency

Safe house is not great since the promotion doesn't candle

[lone oak]

okay understood

[cedar ivy]

Even the safe house tongbao just gives more life, not amazing

You'd need to be in the very weird position of 20+ max life, tossed safehouse tongbao, low life, and a wander after to spend life in shop

[neat egret]

Which is a better first floor pick, combat or wish?

[cedar ivy]

The items in is6 are more consistently good, but

[lone oak]

this sucks?

[cedar ivy]

There isn't much point without a good squad

[lone oak]

so i should ignore this right

[cedar ivy]

+60aspd is enough to clear some sui fights, and its easy to get rid of later. But it doesn't change a lot per se

[paper notch]

i usually ignore it

it can bite you in the ass and it doesnt really win you fights most of the time

[jade wasp]

take every risk you see and pray for +3hp and +3 shield on triple risk 💀

[main bison]

Leizi S3M3, worth?

[cedar ivy]

Ive gotten that turtle to activate like twice

[paper notch]

i've had a run where i've activated it like 6+ times

had 84 hp

[tulip star]

if u have nothing else...

[lone oak]

what about this

[cedar ivy]

Eh, depends

Are you gambling for 1 hp doubt

[jade wasp]

if you fill up on risks you can end runs with 100 lives trust (always gamble)

[lone oak]

rn i have a doubt for 3 max hp

[cedar ivy]

Or the more stable risk for ingots

[paper notch]

borderbound and royal brooch then

[cedar ivy]

Royal brooch is still really good

[main bison]

well, she's S2M3 atm

[paper notch]

if you use a skill you should mastery it

it doesnt matter what that skill is

[main bison]

I only really use it for ed2

[lone oak]

should I fight

[paper notch]

ok do you think that mastery would help you there?

[main bison]

no idea

that's why I'm asking here

[paper notch]

if you use it mastery it then

[cedar ivy]

Im a greedy bastard who will waste 3 candles on one fight, so you shouldn't ask me lmao

[main bison]

depends on the maps and you

[paper notch]

d0. you should be winning all the fights

[jade wasp]

yeah d0 fights you can drop a brick on their heads from a 1 storey building and they collapse

[remote badger]

oh hey its nak

[jade wasp]

hii

[remote badger]

hii

[jade wasp]

took a break from 27 to enjoy IS for once

[lone oak]

where to see what d am I

[remote badger]

bottom left corner of squad icon

[jade wasp]

bottom left when youre in the main floor screen

[remote badger]

if u dont see any numberr its mean d0

[jade wasp]

mhm

[lone oak]

is there like a default strat i can use for every exploration

like just pointers so i know what im doing

[remote badger]

wisadele

[jade wasp]

no brainrot here

[remote badger]

no i meant raidian gaming

[jade wasp]

TRUE

raidian my beloved

[errant siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1453417210478596106/wpetpet.gif

[remote badger]

wis is seems to be very ass in my views

[errant siren]

She stills carry

D15

As long as you don't see Spiky Chests, you're fine.

[hardy radish]

yeah wis can kill fisherman easier than others

[lone oak]

HELP

[jade wasp]

basically just go for every wander node, low difficulty isnt bad you can get away with pretty much everything

once you have raidian unlocked its just raidian sweep

[jade wasp]

she carries but do i want the carry

[errant siren]

Yes

[jade wasp]

youre so right but i skip her anyways

[dense vortex]

so I just got a crazy Tragodia combo where he has a 0 cost cat that I can insta re deploy as soon as the cat explodes

[spare pond]

Just tried the new IS and it's kinda addictive

[jade wasp]

yeah that happens

[main bison]

I dunno, Wisadel does well, so much that I stopped getting Tragodia

[jade wasp]

-65% redeployment risk goes crazy with trag

[main bison]

Mainly because I start with Raidian

[lone oak]

so here just go pathfinder?

[errant siren]

If you cleared Difficulty 2, you just spam Special Squad and bring any other SixStar alongside with maxed Raidian.

If not, bring Tragodia to carry you, especially on final boss part.

[jade wasp]

no go down to the wander

[lone oak]

when should I use my voucher

[errant siren]

On Pathfinder

[jade wasp]

or you can use a candle on wander

its prolly fine to go pathfinder too since f3 wander only has 3 candles

[remote badger]

at least
where is your critical thinking skills muffin

[lone oak]

no i mean

i have 4 voucher thing

when i do use

[errant siren]

Muffin

[jade wasp]

f2 start, f3 (skips wander), f4

those are the main 3

[errant siren]

It's Coupon

[lone oak]

oh

when use

[jade wasp]

LOL

[lone oak]

so I should skip wander now?

[paper notch]

no

[jade wasp]

if you have good hope and you think your saved recruitments are worth

otherwise save for f4

[paper notch]

you should never skip wander bruh

[neat egret]

What's a good medic to use along with the sniper squad?

[paper notch]

there's very few situations where you would

kaltsit

[lone oak]

when to use coupon

[jade wasp]

refreshing shops

[weak pollen]

Hi all. Is E1 Radian better or E1 Ling for ticket?

[jade wasp]

or travelling vertically

[weak pollen]

Or should I save?

[jade wasp]

raidian

[paper notch]

is the raidian built and do you have raidian's talents?

[jade wasp]

also this

the extra candles make her worth

[spare pond]

M3, I think second skill can increase aspd from her talent 2

[lone oak]

i mean when should I travel vertically

and wdym refreshing shops? i thought i was used for refrehsing tong bao

[weak pollen]

Nope. My Radian is only E1 at max.

Buti already have a Ling is E2 M3

[jade wasp]

you can refresh shops with them , unlocked in the tree

[remote badger]

ling kinda piss

[jade wasp]

yeah ling lowkey sucks

[lone oak]

when woud you want to travel vertically

[paper notch]

just save then

[lone oak]

or just use it whenever i want

[remote badger]

borrow a raidian

[paper notch]

hope can be better used elsewhere

[jade wasp]

probably to pick up a valuable node while going to wander on the way, like if you see candlelight node on the way

[weak pollen]

Ok, thanks.
So Radian should always use S3?

[remote badger]

2

[jade wasp]

depends

s2 if you dont have blockers

[remote badger]

mainly 2

[lone oak]

travel?

[remote badger]

no

[jade wasp]

s3 is good niche on stages which have really bad melee tiles

[paper notch]

it's like a 50/50 between s2 and s3

[jade wasp]

no

[paper notch]

default to s2 if you dont know the stage

[weak pollen]

Ok, thanks guys

[lone oak]

why

[jade wasp]

youll skip the wander

no way back

[paper notch]

encounter is shit

well

not worth it

not necessarilly that bad

just not worth it

[lone oak]

tips?

[paper notch]

you might need the 4 coupons later

[weak pollen]

Just realised I can't borrow Radian on tickets

[jade wasp]

also phys dmg is just better later on this IS, the res goes crazy as it always does

[remote badger]

not like that

[jade wasp]

take the legends, ideally youre taking a path to unlock as many nodes as possible

[remote badger]

u can only borrow when its initial recruitment ticket phase

[jade wasp]

you can only borrow on 1st recruitment before game starts

[weak pollen]

Sorry, this is the first time I'm doing IS since IS1.
Watched the guides, but it's all surface info.

[weak pollen]

Ah, noted

[jade wasp]

also atp just take the squad which gives you raidian start its kinda goated

[lone oak]

it keeps saying resgin to fate

[paper notch]

you dont get that till you e2 raidian

[jade wasp]

shiiii

gg

[weak pollen]

So... E2 Radian is still the best to borrow?

Im don't have key ops like Sui, Tragodia, Exia alter

[sacred niche]

does raidian's mod even make any differnce?

[jade wasp]

prolly borrow trag

[lone oak]

when does this get me good stuff

[jade wasp]

he can quite easily permastall yi

[lone oak]

i keep tossing coin and it always the same stuff

resign to fate

[weak pollen]

Ok I'll try

[lone oak]

i just tossed 3 risk coins it gave me nothing

[jade wasp]

is all you have risk coins

i think you need to roll a blossom or something

[lone oak]

what will it give me then

[jade wasp]

no idea, one of them makes all your operators dp randomise i think

[lone oak]

sucks

[dense vortex]

Finally maxed her

aside from Trust

[jade wasp]

im at 86 🙏

[errant siren]

Dawn Drawing coin (Give +100% HP, ATK, DEF, BlockCount and DP Cost to random operator every battle when tossed.)

[jade wasp]

oh its that one

[errant siren]

And any Risk coin will give Relic that every battle shuffles DP Cost for everyone.

[jade wasp]

3 balance is like +1 hope and +10 ingots

[sick mason]

What the? Wow it no longer gives hope whenever we buy stuff

So every time I completed an ending, 60% of my ingots would be automatically invested?

Crazy

[agile spruce]

y'all complete endings?

[jade wasp]

wait thats crazy

id be at 999 by now man

[languid patio]

Lord Tachanka or La Pluma

[jade wasp]

gotta rush that shit asap

medicmiya

[graceful tusk]

Is Raidian always a temporary recruit?

[weak pollen]

Hi all, is this trade worth it?

[languid patio]

yes

[weak pollen]

I'm not sure how to guage if it's worth.

[jade wasp]

yes

its a lot of worth

[weak pollen]

Thanks man

[jade wasp]

basically the floor you roll it on, every fight will give you a temp recruited 6 star

you can bank them if you wanna reroll for another temp 6 star (and make them candleguests(

[errant siren]

If you pick Special after D2, yes, it's always a borrowed maxed variation.

You can use this one until your own will become stronger and self-sustainable.

[agile spruce]

where do you get the books that unlock the different squads

[jade wasp]

what books

you mean the tree squads?

[agile spruce]

maybe? the tourist squad for one

just passed the screen

[jade wasp]

yeah theyre unlocked in the tree

[lone oak]

if you get 3 risk tong bao is there any special effects

or does it just have a weird red lighting for no reason

[jade wasp]

no unless you have any relics which say so

the lighting is just forbiddem omen, you cant gamble irl in any casinos or youll lose it all trust

[agile spruce]

so gachas are totally fine though

[jade wasp]

67 ingots huh

[neat egret]

Got 2 more sniper recruitments

[winged kelp]

Which flower coin ppl usually abuse on Ling encounter?

[floral mist]

Cocoon Silk

It's obtainable by starting with the Support Squad.

On Toss, gain 1 Ingots for every 4 Ingots you own.

[agile spruce]

what's the prices for both

[winged kelp]

What's the alternative if I use Tourist Squad

[sick mason]

The price could be your hope or your ingots

[agile spruce]

[floral mist]

Uhhh.....
None.
Or if you lucky enough, you need to find Cocoon Silk in battles/shops, since Ling's node use 50 Ingots to use, and it didn't exactly reward Ingots if you roll Risk coins

[errant siren]

Half of it.

[winged kelp]

Alright so the point is that you need to generate 50 ingots to re-enter Ling encounter by abusing Cocoon Silk Right?

[jade wasp]

im bewildered i didnt just get crushed instantly, gotta give yu credit hes goated even at e1

[weak pollen]

Hi guys, how do you all clear this cursed stage?

[jade wasp]

oh is that the one with the impairment spammers

[weak pollen]

And the plant that eat ops

[jade wasp]

glhf ig

[errant siren]

You need have Raidian or Tragodia.

[paper notch]

raidian s2 does pretty well here. gl tho

[errant siren]

[jade wasp]

i dont think ethan bind is clutching up this one...

[floral mist]

It's kinda more than that tbh, you generally need maybe +150 or +200 Ingots to abuse it, since you will always need to reroll the Coin Coffer to get Cocoon Silk to appear, as it make 1 Ingots for every 4 Ingots on toss.

[weak pollen]

That's why I don't like the RNG. Always giving me the crazy stages

[errant siren]

Nah, he will just be devoured.

[errant siren]

It's optional fight.

Just press most bottom option on Living Leafs encounter.

[weak pollen]

So it is better if we constantly choose to avoid fights?

[jade wasp]

yea

[paper notch]

no but you chose a fight willingly that you can not win

[errant siren]

This one, in particular, unless you have Raidian or Tragodia, that way is pretty doable.

[paper notch]

i enter the fight most of the time since i know how to beat it

[weak pollen]

How do I know if an "encounter node" will lead me to this stage?

[jade wasp]

i said yea to the fight being optional to clarify

[floral mist]

https://youtu.be/6IxM3kfv5fA?si=wvsBbyuOh6oQ-kj3

This might explain the abuse mechanic

[jade wasp]

by reading gg

[errant siren]

You just learn by mistakes.

[floral mist]

[errant siren]

Wiki.gg doesn't have that information. Yet.

[paper notch]

it's only that specific encounter node that leads to that stage. it's part of FAFO philosophy of playing IS without checking everything in advance. we hope you learn something new from this experience. anyway this is d0 so wisadel should be 1 to 2 shotting everything here anyway

[weak pollen]

I don't understand how it works. If I choose a certain option at certain nodes, will it always be the same outcome (same stage/result/reward)?

[errant siren]

Usually yes, unless RNG related.

[floral mist]

There are nodes where the rewards are fixed, there are nodes where the rewards are randomized

[jade wasp]

oh i said gg as in good game

[errant siren]

But same encounters should have same outcomes if you pick the same options.

[errant siren]

Oh, you mean pink doggo.

[paper notch]

most do

[errant siren]

She doesn't work here.

[floral mist]

What?

[jade wasp]

true

gg works most of the time tho

[paper notch]

it is true, gg is a very dedicated hairdresser or stylist or whatever she does

[jade wasp]

dog things

or cat things

who knows

[lone oak]

help

[paper notch]

brilliant lament if you have a good arts dps. blademace if you can deal with the negative of it fine

[agile spruce]

can you conserve the elite hr vouchers and still get a 6 star w/ it later

[weak pollen]

Ok, I cleared with 0 leaks. All hail WisAdel

[graceful tusk]

Very interesting, this will be main squad then. Thanks a bunch

[jade wasp]

yes

[paper notch]

you can yeah but the randomly promoted ops or random special ops will be different

[agile spruce]

thanks

[lone oak]

does tragodia count as brilliant lament

or ling

[paper notch]

no

[lone oak]

ling?

[jade wasp]

ling tier 2 dragons i guess

[paper notch]

ling has bad damage

i wouldnt consider her

you shouldnt be drafting her anyway

[lone oak]

im guessing blademance doesn't affect ling dragon

[lone oak]

i got her for 0 hope

[jade wasp]

honestly i just habit pick up brilliant lament anyways its just good

[paper notch]

if you use her a lot then sure you can get lament

[fiery plover]

Dream Curio feels like my lucky charm.

[paper notch]

both s2 and s3 deal arts damage

[lone oak]

what about the tung bao

[paper notch]

floor 4 you're supposed to have a better draft than this unless you never entered the sui's consiousness yet

[paper notch]

i usually skip it. more trouble than it's worth

[lone oak]

what are statugeist

[paper notch]

the statue that spawns enemies

[pastel saffron]

the things rhat cost 20 dp to stop

[paper notch]

those ones ye

[lone oak]

oh those are kinda hardt to kill

[paper notch]

you usually aim to kill them for the ingots tho. it can help a bit

[lone oak]

safe house or lost and found?

[errant siren]

Not with Raidian S2/S3.

[paper notch]

safe house

lost and found kinda ass

[pastel saffron]

ur best dmg source is ranged physical aka exia

s2m3 her when u can

she's top 3 unit

and mod3

at low diff even trag's cat is really good tho coz NI is basically true dmg

[lone oak]

im working on it

[wicked sandal]

https://youtu.be/6IxM3kfv5fA?si=2E8yBtCMsTxSeusS

bro

[cedar ivy]

Thats a lotta steps to break a run

[wild geyser]

What ar the enemies from Joy from burdenbeast

[pastel saffron]

this reminds me of the is3 stage

[cedar ivy]

This is the dancing chest stage, but without any difficulty

[pastel saffron]

sarkaz woman

[cedar ivy]

Its free money

[sick mason]

What the fu

[wild geyser]

What radian skill for that map?

[sick mason]

Why both have to appear at the same time

[cedar ivy]

If you were able to reach that stage, you don't need help clearing it

[weak pollen]

Hi all. What is the goal of entering remnant conscious?

Like what to prioritise?

[real mango]

Another version of the Yanese Connection

Sorted by class and rarity

[errant siren]

One. Fucking. Capybara on top left.

That's it.

[errant siren]

Mats. Sometimes battles if you can clear it with one attempt.

[lone oak]

where to go

[real mango]

My net is turbo mega dogshit, my bad

[errant siren]

If you have salad, it's especially vital to do battles.

[lone oak]

pls help

[errant siren]

Muf.

Start thinking by yourself.

[flint token]

down bruh

cant you do this urself

[real mango]

What's your team

[real mango]

Can you show me your team

[errant siren]

You need to get more battles as you could (preferably easy one), to get rewards as vouchers to have proper ops and have enough Hope to recruit and promote them.

Going Wander is also an option, if you can clear some fights or some encounters to get stuff.

We ain't gonna grab your hand and go step by step because you're too afraid to self-thinking.

[real mango]

Just post team

[sick mason]

Masterless Exu alter 💀

[real mango]

Yeah, I can see why he's having trouble thinking for himself.

[jovial whale]

i might actually end it all if my game decides to crash again after entering a boss stage and end the run

[lone oak]

why

[real mango]

Nothing, just ignore it.

[lone oak]

aight what do i do now, do i go for safe house then rouge trader via coupon or wander

[hybrid mural]

Lmao

[sick mason]

I'm not surprised

[real mango]

Bro just
Play the game
Fail and learn

[robust grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G32F4ILC3P8

[agile spruce]

going into final fight with one medic

[lone oak]

can you help me pls

[agile spruce]

and it's the special op medic

[real mango]

No.

You need to learn to decide on your own.

[remote badger]

very normal

[lone oak]

can you atleast tell me if i want e2 gg which path would be best

[remote badger]

unless its an ed3 run

[real mango]

Man

[agile spruce]

nah I think it's ed1

harmonie or reserve op defender

[remote badger]

ur fine

[real mango]

Harmonie's probably better

[real mango]

You can have Ethan to stall anyway

[agile spruce]

there it is

that's current squad

[real mango]

What diff is this

15?

[agile spruce]

2

[real mango]

Bruh

[remote badger]

just throw cat into yi for 9149469104716907 times

[agile spruce]

my luck may as well make it 15 tbh

didn't get a single medic voucher

[real mango]

You can memestrat 2 tbh

I got hit with "what a draft" in General lmao

[agile spruce]

aight going to try it

[lone oak]

i just used gg + infnite asdp last time

[burnt lantern]

I saw guide for unlimited kettle strat, and requirement is to get 200 ingots?? Like, how do we acquire 200 ingot in floor 2/3?

[remote badger]

f1 robbing

[teal bison]

anyone seen more than 2 leisure nodes?

[errant siren]

Me

[burnt lantern]

We need to succesfully rob him , or can use leader squad (and exit the fight)?

[lucid sedge]

which ending do I have to do for e1 raidian?

[remote badger]

any

[remote badger]

raidian

[agile spruce]

I did it

but 9 got through in the end

[errant siren]

For E1, it should be reach 3rd Floor once, didn't it?

Not even beat the final boss

[lone oak]

if i got ed 1 what should i aim for next

ed 2?

[errant siren]

Muf.

For 1201th time...

Maybe you should start thinking by yourself what to do next?

[agile spruce]

I can sleep now

[weak pollen]

Hi guys, which of these 2 should I select to start?

Finally cleared stage 0. Hahahah

[agile spruce]

read something about one of raidian's talents or module nodes increasing out of is6 stats, what exactly was it?

[errant siren]

Idk, usually use Discount one.

[agile spruce]

easy route is normally just the support squad that gives you ops then selecting wis'adel from support or own units

[lone oak]

idk i haven't done any is

[weak pollen]

Thanks I'll try to find that.

[lone oak]

which one should I go for

[errant siren]

You just play. Doing End2 is one of options. You can even play for Raidian upgrade normally, or just farm End1 for Difficulty raise, if you want to.

Or just speedrun to Lv50 battlepass.

Or just playing for fun.

Like dude, it's limitless.

[errant siren]

You kidding?

Sigh.

[sick mason]

Hmm to pathfinder or go straight to wonderland (floor 3)?

[lone oak]

please help

[errant siren]

No.

I'm fucking sick of this.

Welcome to Ignore Zone.

[sick mason]

Lul

[remote badger]

lol

where is it

[sick mason]

That's the same guy who E2lvl 90 S2M3 Tragodia but left Exu alter without module + S2lvl7

[crimson nest]

Classic muffin

[lone oak]

#help told to do it in that order

and sl 7 exu still do fine

i thought this chat was supposed to help with the critical thinking

so maybe give soe hint atleast

[sick mason]

#help is a fucking mess

[lone oak]

so toxic chat

[remote badger]

u are suposed to have critical thinking skills

[sick mason]

It's not toxic. Have you ever try to think?

[remote badger]

when playing rougelikes

[sick mason]

Instead of... keep watching guides?

[jade wasp]

we teach you how to make decisions not baby you through every single step

[sick mason]

Like do you really need to ask where to go in this f-ing moment??

[jade wasp]

teach a man to fish type shit

[wicked sandal]

[desert brook]

how much harder is this vs regular version

[errant siren]

Map is shit always.

It's IS4 Manmade Carnaval.

[desert brook]

i have no healer

[sick mason]

Rest in pepperoni

[cedar ivy]

As usual

[winter belfry]

you're cooked gng

[cedar ivy]

How quickly can you kill artillery

[winter belfry]

no ranged tiles are safe

[remote badger]

manmade mmm

[errant siren]

Too bad, probably Ep11 artillery will bonk ya

[winter belfry]

unless you can deal with mid

[cedar ivy]

And how quickly do you clear robots

[remote badger]

not so quick

[real mango]

Is he still begging for handouts

[cedar ivy]

Exu alt s2 cleans either job quickly......if it werent for ed3 relic removing initial sp

[gaunt bay]

least shit help advice

[normal creek]

Wanna ask, how long is next expansion gonna come in global?

[remote badger]

its literally the same to manmade carnival

[winter belfry]

3 months

[lone oak]

already cleared thanks to no one help

[real mango]

Good

[jade wasp]

so you CAN play the game without asking us for help?

[real mango]

You've learned to do things for yourself

[jade wasp]

character development

[cedar ivy]

Damn bro that's bitter

[normal creek]

I see, another thing do you guys always save recruit to save on hope on both recruiting and upgrading or should i be selective on which recruit class to save

[desert brook]

ok yea i just died

[jade wasp]

ideally dont be selective, i just bank everything at least early game

later on is when you pick and choose

[cedar ivy]

Bank everything until conserve is full. Then pick up a supporter voucher and realize you can't candle radian.

[jade wasp]

mhm

[abstract marsh]

reminder to stay civil and not behave in a toxic manner with other users. no excuses

this goes to everyone

[languid reef]

Which one?

[sick mason]

I forgot their abilities

[jade wasp]

one is like 2 ops get everything doubled i forgor the other

at least i think its that trade

[cedar ivy]

2nd one is better for sui realm i guess?

[normal creek]

I see, and how about which node to prioritise, The portal node or the candlelight node?

[cedar ivy]

But i find first one more consistent

[jade wasp]

idk pick the one you dont have for completion 💀

[jade wasp]

portal always

candlelight can be prioritised either on floor 4 since wander is guaranteed or if youre going for ed3

[sick mason]

Ed3 encounter is always on the first "doubt" node in wonderland huh?

[jade wasp]

should be

[cedar ivy]

Free item+3 hope if you mass voucher asap

[jade wasp]

why not take the relic you wont

its only -50% starting sp what could go wrong

[sick mason]

OH COME ON I was about to light this old hag

[cedar ivy]

Traumatic flashbacks

[jade wasp]

went from 50 lives to 21 lives from 30 enemies

[errant siren]

Jokes on you - Reed is actually between A-S tier in IS6.

[waxen marten]

Does this thing work on self heal like enmity operators?

[sick mason]

B-but free Reedic

[winter belfry]

Does anyone know how rare the ling leisure node is?

Is 20% correct

[cedar ivy]

I've never gotten the ling node

[sick mason]

I never encountered Ling leisure node yet...

[jade wasp]

its 100% for when you dont need it, 0% for when you do

[errant siren]

Idk, we don't know exact numbers.

[languid patio]

Slapped the boss

Diff 0

[cedar ivy]

Ive gotten shu consecutive and nian consecutive

[languid patio]

I need to block the le Yi with the fin gang

[winter belfry]

But we do know its rarer than nian/shu correct?

[languid patio]

and use Lappdumbter to do the wolves gone mad attack on Yi

[remote badger]

hold ur greeds

[errant siren]

Yes. By senses.

[winter belfry]

Sounds good

Or bad

[jade wasp]

what if you just got bad luck, a lot of it

[errant siren]

Nian is good everywhere anyway

Even better than Ling if you cannot milk her

[winter belfry]

milking ling

[sick mason]

I'm trying but I mostly folded when seeing a temp 6* (well not all 6* but majority ye)

[jade wasp]

take it for bonus points real

[errant siren]

Cost is cheap, can get BaseShields, Hope

Which can boost you a bit.

The punish from losing is just -1 BaseHP.

If you have a lot of these, which is usual.

[jade wasp]

someone out there has taken the half shield option

[errant siren]

You never have problems.

[onyx gust]

What does promoted via combat mean?

[errant siren]

Yes, and it throw out from encounter.

[jade wasp]

theres a combat option in candlelight node (unlocked from tree)

[errant siren]

From Pathfinder, there's Combat option.

[onyx gust]

Oh that one, I thought it meant end of battle vouchers

[errant siren]

It works like Face-Off.

[jade wasp]

you put an op on the lightning chamber and force help them survive

[quick remnant]

silicon geist banquet with a sprinkle of dragon feet, amazing

[onyx gust]

Yea so far I've had no success with it at all

[sick mason]

Pathfinder normal combat still feels like a scam

[onyx gust]

I'm assuming the Floor 2 Node 1 battle is a trap

[sick mason]

Only light the chosen operator, not promote them too

[jade wasp]

it is a scam really

[wicked sandal]

it's if u want that one relic to work

:cope

[quick remnant]

it's easy if you actually read the desc (and hope you didn't get the true dmg one)

[jade wasp]

meanwhile +15% atk per coin toss existing:

[languid reef]

I ask again, which one should I pick?

[sick mason]

Wow both are +life points huh

[errant siren]

What your heart desires.

What you think it will benefit most to you?

[wicked sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/its-the-exact-same-thing-ian-carter-the-same-similar-equal-gif-16516466

depends

do u go after combat or non-combat nodes

that's it really

[stray dove]

huh, first time i got a triple Risk. Didn't know the screen turns red when it happens

[naive mulch]

What does a good starting lineup look like in IS3 on difficulty 4 up? I keep getting absolutely cucked because I cant find a single 5* or a couple 4*s that can carry through the first 2 floors

[sick mason]

Yes it happened to me previously too

At least you have one risk tongbao that benefits you

[errant siren]

Yeah, it changes when you hit all Risk. There's also all Flowers.

Probably spiky turtle and calendar relics relies on that moment.

[void root]

D6 checkpoint is c&b torture

Hate that talisman debuff when deploy

[sick mason]

Manmade Carnival?!

[errant siren]

Yes

There's OOC too

[void root]

Out of Control really out of my control

[sick mason]

Rob or not?

[void root]

Rob

No balls

[sick mason]

Despite my Raidian summons no longer use deployment slot in this floor, I guess timeworn poetry strips still worth eh

[void root]

Well more atk is always nice no?

[sick mason]

Fair point

Tbh this one fucking enemy that fires cannon always frustrated me whenever I want to rob

Why all enemies are from Thorns alter event

[void root]

Because HG wants to smash your balls

[left ledge]

Guys, which is the Incursion Point? The red ones or the blue ones?

[sick mason]

Red

The box where enemies coming from

[left ledge]

ik the colours. Was just wondering bout the context behind this term.

[sick mason]

Ah so you must've got that one relic where it gives ops +100% atk surrounding 8 tiles of the red box

[left ledge]

Cannot sells it, but didn't process that yet. Might buy that just for the collection.

[sick mason]

I have to push them???

[left ledge]

Usually, I'm away from them.

[left ledge]

Well, you fucked around. Now find out.

[errant siren]

Incursion Point = Redbox
Objective Point = Bluebox

[errant siren]

I usually kill them all.

At least one goes into hole voluntarily.

[left ledge]

Got that just for the collection. Next time I'm not buying that.

[fiery owl]

Is6 above a10 is so hard dude

It’s actually pissing me tf off

[flint forge]

What is this upgraded version?

[errant siren]

Two ops

That's it.

[dense vortex]

ok so far what's ya'll's fav squad?

[last hull]

What was the condition for unlocking the raidian E2 special squad?

[dense vortex]

EN can't read moment

[flint forge]

And why do I need hundreds of ingots for Ling exploit, is it for golden chalice?
And why do in most YouTube videos people hoard kettles?

[errant siren]

Clear Difficulty 2 and E2 your own Raidian.

[fiery owl]

Guys

[last hull]

Thanks.

[fiery owl]

Do you guys having problem with ed2 on >d10

Like

[flint forge]

Still 100% DP increase? That's not even an upgrade smh

[fiery owl]

I having so muc difficult trying to beat it

[dense vortex]

yeah mobs are insanely tanky in this diff, i have to get lucky on ur first drafts to get ur carry to E2 if u wanna get by

[flint forge]

yes bu Ed1 lol, mobs move so fast and tanky af

[fiery owl]

Idk how newbies can even beat this

Without all the strong op

[errant siren]

Because you'll eventually out of Ingots and Ingot Gacha on Ling will throw you out right after first attempt, so you need more candles which Ling Encounter could make it for you.

And Kettle is basically a placeholder - game has no other choice, but give kettles, because every other relics has been claimed.

[errant siren]

Yes. Bonuses still the same. It's trash upgrade indeed.

[fiery owl]

So frustrating dude

It’s not fun at all

[dense vortex]

honestly getting the node for ED2 is harder than anything else

[void root]

ending 2 easier than ed1

yi burst my balls

[fiery owl]

Dude

Do you love men?

[void root]

yes

[ivory gull]

does this relic affect tragodia's cat?

[errant siren]

Yes

Free gato

[ivory gull]

it's either that or this one

these are my units. which is the better buy?

[void root]

Exu

[fiery owl]

Are you gay too?

[gaunt bay]

its is station everyone is gay i think

[errant siren]

[void root]

[flint forge]

Gotcha

[wicked sandal]

someone who gets it

[wicked sandal]

pause

ur buying something?

just rob

[ivory gull]

never tried robbing, what happens? lol

[wicked sandal]

this because both kaltsit and trag

but like

just get everything

[wicked sandal]

you get his entire stock for free

tap bargain and go the right one

u have to spam click it tho

[ivory gull]

i already passed the node, figured i'll spend stuff in bosky but i'll keep this in mind

do i have to fight him?

[flint forge]

Please someone confirm these two things
1.) For M2 Radian skills, I need to clear the 2nd ending at certain difficulty (I forget), right?
2.) For M3, I need to use a squad to clear any ending at d7 or above?
3.) can I skip m2 and just do m3 quest?

[fiery plover]

1.) 5 or above
2.) 7 or above

[flint forge]

What happens if I do m3 quests first before m2?

[rapid pulsar]

You can unlock it whenever you unlock m2

Lemme show you my radian rq

[hardy totem]

Hello everyone. After living in IS3 for forever, IS6 feels so good to play

[ivory gull]

I got the -90% attack on first enemy attack collectible. does this also apply to those exploding stuff in the final boss?

[fiery plover]

Like if the game will store your requisite run for m3ing the skill? I'm not sure.

[rapid pulsar]

It does

[burnt lantern]

Fellas... i rob shop at 1F of IS6 for unlimited kettle. But i dont get any ingots from successfully robbing it.. i did leaked some.

Still not dont know how you guys can get 100-200 ingots

[flint forge]

Nice, thank you

[left ledge]

ik who this weird puppet thing is, but where to find and kill this thing?

[carmine token]

kill the ed1 boss with her summons or her

on d6 or higher

[left ledge]

Oh, so I just go and kill this normal ED1 boss the same way I have been doing all this time, but with Raidian or her turrets? Got it.

So this ED1 boss is Yi, huh?

[carmine token]

yea

[steep trail]

Is there a way to know where ending 2 encounter will be? I've went 3 runs without even seeing it, I can't take it anymore

[vagrant burrow]

basically just have raidian or her summon(s) get the final hit

[runic minnow]

Do u have just 1 try to bring Sui at 50% hp?

[vagrant burrow]

nope, as of now no but it will be added in future expansions

[steep trail]

I see

[vagrant burrow]

all we're mostly confident in is that it's not the first 4 nodes surrounding your starting node

[errant siren]

Yeah, Yi is standard Final Boss.

[left ledge]

[vagrant burrow]

nope, as many combats as you have before the prophecy node prior to the f5 boss fight

[errant siren]

You can do several attempts and HP progress is saved between battles.

[runic minnow]

Yeah i'm at the second fight (which is the last) and he's not here

[vagrant burrow]

you can take your time with it (though be careful on some stages, it could cripple your strat, or, in the case of stages with gramophones and something else i can't recall) the foot can get healed

[left ledge]

Sounds like I gotta rework my team to get this fucker of a boss.

[runic minnow]

The previous battle didn't give me any collectible aswell

[vagrant burrow]

tbh now that i'm more familiar with the stage, i can practically solo ed1 with raidian now, albeit with mid relics

if you lowroll you'll probably need to put more effort than mindlessly spamming yi with s2 summons until he dies twice

[left ledge]

And tried femboi against Yi. His pulls works only against all the rest. Not at Yi itself.

[vagrant burrow]

most important thing to note is that he summons the exploding liangs based on his current vertical position, so try and keep him as high up on the map (where he spawns) as possible, and keep your operators near the bottom

[vagrant burrow]

tried... who?

[left ledge]

Mizuki

He's a femboi

[vagrant burrow]

oh probably cause you already got him to 50% idk

[vagrant burrow]

mizuki only has pull strength of 3 or 4 i forget, most is bosses are weight 10
let me fact check myself

[runic minnow]

Ok no he just appeared midway? Beat his ass into submission

[left ledge]

Yeah, those flying bombs are what makes it kinda hard. Will need to relocate my ops a bit differently.

[runic minnow]

Now, the bossfight

[vagrant burrow]

yea mizuki's pull force is 3 and yi's weight is 7

its not that he's not pulling him, its that he can't

if you want to move the boss or keep him at the top, use tragodia

yu could work in a pinch but he'll likely explode shortly after

[left ledge]

Tragodia S2 my beloved

[vagrant burrow]

bringing a FRD like gravel can also help

[vagrant burrow]

oh yeah he appears after a random amount of time iirc

[left ledge]

I always use this catboi's S2 everywhere cuz plenty of useful.

[runic minnow]

Can someone explain his targeting pattern?

As far as i can tell it's not the latest op deployed

[paper notch]

most connected ops > bottom most > left most > last deployed

[left ledge]

It's funny that no boss can resist the black cat's cutesy.

[paper notch]

this is ed2 right

[runic minnow]

Huh, quirky targeting

[vagrant burrow]

yup

[paper notch]

yee

[vagrant burrow]

its pretty easy to get used to

[paper notch]

it very nice to abuse as well

[errant siren]

Most bottom, most left on the map.

[vagrant burrow]

at some point you just gotta worry about having bodies to throw as bait and also not accidentally doing something like activating wisadel's s3 and exploding yourself

[final gale]

where the taunt priority enter here???

[vagrant burrow]

not affected by taunt

[paper notch]

there is no taunt prio afaik

[vagrant burrow]

entirely different targeting priority mechanic

[errant siren]

If you don't want to think too much, deploy most ops close to each other

[paper notch]

i used mlynar and didnt notice anything weird

[cloud cliff]

https://youtu.be/i8YPuhRwiio guys saw this on my feed but i have no fking idea what happen. Any explanation?

[final gale]

i see...

[left ledge]

Check his post. He mentions that.

[errant siren]

It explains both in vid and comments

Support Squad is essential

[vagrant burrow]

highest density is highest prio, if there's multiple operators/summons with the same density of other operators/summons in a 3x3 around them, then it prioritizes the one closest to the bottom of the screen, and if there's (again) multiple in the same row, then it prioritizes the one closest to the left of the screen

[left ledge]

He just showed in video what to do, and explains in comments (he pinned his comment there).

[stray dove]

just 3 more. And this is me just doing constant throwaway runs to give Cannot store more cash

doing combatless WiW in F2 is hilarious

[paper notch]

where are you getting the encounters?

in bosky?

[stray dove]

yes

[left ledge]

Aye

[stray dove]

iirc

[paper notch]

[stray dove]

you can get both in and out of WiW

but you need to be in WiW

to get the Candleholder stamps

[left ledge]

WiW as in Shifel Bridge place?

[paper notch]

i know you can get both in and out but i dont remember getting it before floor 3

[stray dove]

WiW as in Bosky

and yes same encounter screen

can be seen in Legend

Legends are just technically encounter nodes

except it has Ed2 option and maybe other WiW uniques

[left ledge]

^

[vagrant burrow]

wait im kinda slow, how does one get 60 ingots per tongbao throw

[left ledge]

But it's in random.

[stray dove]

indeed

it is by no means....quick

[paper notch]

support squad tongbao

for every 4 ingots you get 1 ingot when thrown

since one of the node's rewards is coupons, you can just spam getting ingots

and since it takes ingots to gamble in the node you can enter it as much as you want to

and since it checks for risk coins you need risk coins

and since it rewards candles, you dont have to worry about steps

how broken

the hardest part about the setup lowkey seems to be getting the correct leisure

[left ledge]

The one with Nian? Or a different Leisure?

[paper notch]

that specific leisure in the video

i dont remember which nian sibling that is

the 50 ingots gamble one

[vagrant burrow]

ohhh thats what the special one does

i didn't know that

haven't played upgraded support squad (yet)

quite humorous

[paper notch]

it's pretty good from my experience

[vagrant burrow]

yea ive just been gvg slopping lol

[paper notch]

most squads in is6 are quite good

[vagrant burrow]

ed3 farming exp for raidian

[left ledge]

I could imagine Pard speedrunning it using this glitch. lol

[paper notch]

it's just that raidian is a supporter and def sup gives the best chance at getting supp voucher

[vagrant burrow]

as a matter of fact, is your raidian max yet?

i open raidian leizi 🥹

[paper notch]

the lvl isnt maxed

she's lvl 80

[vagrant burrow]

yeah mines 83

[paper notch]

but everything else is there

imma chill on is6 till next month

[vagrant burrow]

hardly a speedrun when it takes... probably hours

[paper notch]

i need the mastery

[vagrant burrow]

imma keep practicing

[prime vine]

is5 is so fast to upgrade

[vagrant burrow]

i like the IS

it feels simple yet very refreshing with the different collectible combos

i get a strong foundation then lean into a certain niche to highroll

[paper notch]

this IS feels like there is a good selection of really powerful things i can be looking forward to

not just like 1 good relic in the entire IS like some other ISses 🥹

[robust grail]

is that an IS5 diss i hear

:realmad:

[vagrant burrow]

is5 is just spoiling yourself simulator

its like a bad drug

you gotta fight to not relapse

[final gale]

i love is5 coz i can actually draft wisadel for a reason

🥹

[lost anchor]

what's wrong with is5 💀

[robust grail]

actually

i shouldn't glaze is5 in iss

[vagrant burrow]

"self imposed restrictions" yeah youre just putting the drugs in a safe and trying to forget the combination

[robust grail]

bye

[final gale]

nah

glaze is5

[runic minnow]

Holy fuck i barely passed it with 1 life point

[prime vine]

just give me my resourses arleady my operators are too expensive

[final gale]

coz it have amiyi

[robust grail]

amiya is also viable in is6

[prime vine]

amiya is viable in every IS

yall just think otherwise

[final gale]

and then theres is3

[vagrant burrow]

erm

[prime vine]

what about is3

[robust grail]

not is3 or is4 really

hope curve too tight

she doesn't solve much

[vagrant burrow]

if "every IS" means IS5 and IS6 sure..

[prime vine]

hope curve aint allat just do scout nodes lowkey

[vagrant burrow]

[tacit oyster]

So I just tried a borrowed crownslayer. She was pretty good at the crying thief stages actually. Stalling and holding him better than tex2. Is she worth building actually?

[vagrant burrow]

just highroll

[robust grail]

...no?

[vagrant burrow]

just... get better pathing luck ig

[errant siren]

No.

[lost anchor]

sounds about right

[robust grail]

you need to take ed3 on scout anyways

[errant siren]

Like, I wouldn't say she's good at that job, even.

[prime vine]

cant you just reveal it with silverash

[sinful sparrow]

of course its when im restarting

[vagrant burrow]

if you want an excuse to build her, she's a fun unit and has a neat base skill
you could ask shileds if you want some more reasons to build her

[sinful sparrow]

and refresh gives chef's knife

no fucking shot bruh

[vagrant burrow]

if your team is lacking though and you have higher prio units, i'd recc building them first

[robust grail]

anything works at low diff

[final gale]

mf being chisa in making

now do also math while being elitist and u would probably be him

[prime vine]

who's goated at IS in this pictur

[blazing hemlock]

Do I need something to stall Yi with the cat from Tragodia? I keep placing it but Yi is only following it sometimes

[robust grail]

that's why she appears good

[tacit oyster]

@prime vine In IS6 the crying thief node has those slugs and the free crownslayer I got stunned all the slugs and thief long enough for me to set-up and unstun Mlynar

[robust grail]

almost all enemies are stationary when attacking or casting skills

[tacit oyster]

so was I lucky or did I just use her right for that stage only?

[prime vine]

I mean I can just instakill the thief with wisadel or ulpianus

[errant siren]

I can stun the same with Wis S2 and still kill him

[robust grail]

the correct cycle is: Yi casts skill and stops moving -> Yi finishes casting and moves down, his summons are still onscreen -> after his second wave of summons explodes, deploy the cat to lure him to top right corner -> after the third wave of summons explodes, deploy Gravel to block him, he's paralysed and can't attack -> Yi casts skill and stop moving, retreat Gravel to save DP if she hasn't died

[tacit oyster]

she does? But is she good overall?

[errant siren]

Not at all.

[tacit oyster]

didn't draft ulpi, Mlynar is E1l80

[lost anchor]

relax is just a joke 🥀

[vagrant burrow]

she does what?

[blazing hemlock]

Thank you ^^
Any fast redeploy works right?

[errant siren]

Stuns only Ground unlike TexasAlter, useless before right mod, damage sucks ass big time...

[tacit oyster]

wait for crying thief walter is better with S2 instead of S3?

[vagrant burrow]

you got a laugh out of me so consider that a counter-argument

[tacit oyster]

base skill I mean

[errant siren]

Mine is E1
If E2, I just S3 ofc his ass off.

[vagrant burrow]

she has 35% exp which is kinda cope since its just 5% higher than workers like frostnova, vigna, castle-3, shirayuki, etc.

but yeah its a "good" base skill (ignore the 2 year ROI)

[tacit oyster]

oh

[left ledge]

And lmao. I have been using the Support Squad all this time. Used this to lvl up Cannot as fast as possible to unlock some goodies.

[robust grail]

yes

[vagrant burrow]

she's by no means an unseable or terrible operator, just be prepared to invest 12 mod blocks into her so her s3 functions as intended

[robust grail]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1HhuSzmEgJ?t=56.5

[tacit oyster]

then I guess for that moment crownslayer was good enough with stunning. for some reason, she stuns more people longer than Texas2

[left ledge]

Gotta see if it'll work with this glitch.

[robust grail]

s3 doesn't work unless you have 2 blockers

[vagrant burrow]

well thats because she doesn't do sexas levels of damage, she specializes in stunlocking up to 3 enemies

[robust grail]

she doesn't

[prime vine]

cannot be that bad 💔 💔

[robust grail]

she's okay at stunlocking up to 3 enemies

[vagrant burrow]

relative to sexas is what i meant

[errant siren]

One is enough.

[prime vine]

are 5 and 6 the easiest or what

[vagrant burrow]

yeah

once you understand them

[errant siren]

One is fucking enough to reveal his ass for 0.5 seconds.

[robust grail]

s3 has a slow windup

[tacit oyster]

no I meant she stunlocked thief long enough for him to not move in his slug mission. 2xas, thief kicks her and they're both stunned but thief still goes through.

[errant siren]

If nothing happens to save him, he'll gets oneshoted.

[robust grail]

so they'll get stunned

[prime vine]

also is mlynar good in is

[lost anchor]

haven't even started is5/6, just trynna have fun in chat

[prime vine]

start IS5 it's peak

[dense vortex]

first diff 12 win, bro Enemies are so freakin tanky

[robust grail]

congrats

[vagrant burrow]

yea, sexas has significant downtime between her stuns unless you have relics that extend stun duration, crownslayer's downtime is like a few frames

[errant siren]

When targeted directly, he cannot be saved.
Moreover, Invis goes back in action about 4 seconds without blocking. It's enough to shot him.

[vagrant burrow]

sometimes sexas can get kicked in the shin by the crying thief if unlucky

[robust grail]

do you play the game

[left ledge]

That's quite interesting.

So it's to switch between Gravel and Trag S2 cat?

[robust grail]

crying thief enters invis immediately when unblocked

[tacit oyster]

Then what am I doing wrong with crying thief nodes? Specifically the one with the slugs. Without either lucky stuns from walter or reveals from ines or not drafting SilverAsh, The slugs keep stunning me before I can dps check the dog

[errant siren]

I played IS3 D18 so many times I even know how Invis works.

[robust grail]

and shots that lock on don't affect him

[errant siren]

Bull-shit.

[dense vortex]

I hate this damm Pierro

[prime vine]

why do people hate is5 and 6

[errant siren]

Hate IS5?

[dense vortex]

idk who you refer to as people, there past 2 IS are the most fun by far

[left ledge]

You hate this thieving Perro? Shrimply put Raidian and set the summons to kill this shit.

[prime vine]

people always be hating on em

idk

[dense vortex]

if it's twitter.. no shit it's twitter

[prime vine]

no everyone quit that platform

[left ledge]

Translation, plz?

[robust grail]

^

[dense vortex]

then idk what you mean, I ain't seen anyone do an IS rant here yet

[errant siren]

Maybe you should try to reveal yourself in battle, or any enemies from Ep3 to see how it works?

[left ledge]

This why you need a lot of blocks to kill him fast.

[robust grail]

crying thief is the exception

[errant siren]

Because it has some sec cooldown to reactivate.

[errant siren]

It's not.

[robust grail]

it is

it says so on prts and you can verify this experimentally

[errant siren]

I'm not gonna even argue about it

[paper notch]

the assassins from babel activate invis immediately btw

[errant siren]

I stand corrected

[vagrant burrow]

if crying thief didn't regain invis immediately then he would be a joke, instead its easy to slip up and have him just sneak through your entire lineup

[paper notch]

this wouldnt be the first case of "activating immediately when unblocked"

[errant siren]

Even if invis goes immediately, you have ENOUGH time to target him

And if it's tagreted

Doesn't matter, you're on Invis or not.

[robust grail]

also invis returns after 3 seconds, not 4

[left ledge]

That's why you need a lot of blocks to force him to reveal. And a lot of snipers (inc. Raidian) to kill him fast.

[dense vortex]

have u seen how tanky it is in risk 10 bosky?

[left ledge]

I have seen it, yes.

[tacit oyster]

We don't?
IS4 was very fun in terms of node customization by making the floor OOPS ALL BOSKY'S/CANNOTS WITH 99% DISCOUNT!
IS5 is also fun because of the versatility of the runs, consistency for getting certain relics you specifically want for specific operators (lamp), and mission/game modifiers mid-run (thoughts/inspirations)
Also this IS so far has been entertaining even without raidan at high difficulties. It's more RNG but the fun kind.

[vagrant burrow]

with one body? maybe for one attack, he'll run straight through them afterwards, wasn't that the whole point of this "argument"

[dense vortex]

IS5 just makes runs really consistent and people are probably just complaining that that makes it boring

[vagrant burrow]

tragodia s3 wont be capable of proccing nervous impair with just one body

[tacit oyster]

but lads, seriously for the thief node this IS with the stun-slugs, what's the strat? I sometimes come underprepared for the encounter, and spending 2 hope makes him leak and I lose LP

[dense vortex]

that and people hate the stages balanced around lamp

[errant siren]

Usually one shot is enough. Even maxdiff. Well, ok, if not, two bodies.

Because real ass reload.

[tacit oyster]

Then choose the talons or painting I guess?

[vagrant burrow]

well now youre just conceding

[dense vortex]

which tbf, the lamp balanced stages are bullshit

[vagrant burrow]

no?

[errant siren]

No

[robust grail]

no one plays doodle, plenty of people play talons

[errant siren]

Because he dies on one shot.

E2

Wis

[robust grail]

then increase the difficulty

smile

[prime vine]

which stages are balanced around lamp

[errant siren]

If E1, you need to actually pray on stun chances.

[vagrant burrow]

depends on your draft/relics tbh, its always a pretty annoying stage, though tragodia helps a ton in my experience by wiping out slugs since his summon can't be stunned

[tacit oyster]

No? Talons give consistent early floor challenge modes for XP, plans and guaranteed relics every match

[robust grail]

and has a 35% chance of failing

[final gale]

but i cant get past d16

[left ledge]

Well, back into playing IS6. Trying to lvl up Raidian.

[vagrant burrow]

i wasn't referring to you

[tacit oyster]

Talons are actually a preferred alternative to lamp if your aim is early relics and xp

ah

[left ledge]

Have fun with your cute "argument".