Idk the hope cost is a bit steep
#is-station
gaunt bay
severe oasis
shes never really "sucked" theres just no reason to use her
idk if that would change
gaunt bay
Maybe if u have wis banned and ur not playing offensive recovery squad for cheeto
sick mason
Her flat def reduction
gaunt bay
Theres a usecase surely
gaunt bay
Her flat def reduction
Bruh its like 200
fiery raft
Thank you, what's the third one if you know?
severe oasis
i mean she has slow right or was it mspd down
gaunt bay
Er idk
delicate aurora
Thank you, what's the third one if you know?
the two ones you have missing in the 2nd image are both face off, they have different ones for 1v1 and 2v2
severe oasis
also surely saving ammo talent would come in clutch 
fiery raft
the two ones you have missing in the 2nd image are both face off, they have diff...
Ohhh, thank you thank you
gaunt bay
🥀
sick mason
The face-off nodes is pretty unique in IS6 since some are only viable with ground or high ground 
sick mason
Instead of both combined for any enemy
gaunt bay
She activated exu talent i think
Unironically ive been drafting cantabile on s2 for that specific purpose recently
gaunt bay
Idk
rapid pulsar
Cantabile s2 on is5 with exu saved me in alot of occasions
gaunt bay
If u wanna try The Tech™
sick mason
Well it’s not a must for M3
rapid pulsar
But in is6 I mostly just use s1
severe oasis
i dont use skil level 7 skills im not BROKE.
steel relic
They’ve been here since masses travels
delicate aurora
shouldi s2m3 canta
the fact that she only gets 18 attacks kind of sucks outside of situations where you just leave her sitting there for like a minute
severe oasis
the fact that she only gets 18 attacks kind of sucks outside of situations where...
yeah and i use her like a frdp so it never seemed worth for me
delicate aurora
I use her S2 in normal stages but in IS it doesnt work very well with relics esp the aspd ones
maybe if you got the -40% sp coin and lightning rod 
delicate aurora
Should probably draft surfer instead since she has the dp on deploy talent
severe oasis
if only i had surfer
gaunt bay
I pulled yu specifically for surfer
severe oasis
genuinely no fucking idea how i didnt get her
gaunt bay
delicate aurora
should have pulled more/just offrate her 
gaunt bay
I need to try the chaltertech once her mod comes
halcyon flame
gaunt bay
Whats the exu talent activation chance
severe oasis
should have pulled more/just offrate her <:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
i considered it but i regret deciding not to, i assumed i would just get her offrate later but nooooooooo of course i wouldnt
severe oasis
like she actually hates me
gaunt bay
🥹
severe oasis
Whats the exu talent activation chance
25% i think but i check
that might be modless
delicate aurora
Whats the exu talent activation chance
35% with mod
severe oasis
ok yeah
gaunt bay
Hm
halcyon flame
Is urs not E2 or something
severe oasis
my raidian is only missing m3 on every skill but i have all proficiency and mod3
and m2 on skills
delicate aurora
I want radian
borrow mine instead 
severe oasis
<:mon3trsmug:1379581189484056696>
ok but did you grind them at d15 or d12
delicate aurora
OMFG I ROLLED THE -10 ON THE RANDOM SP COIN 7 TIMES IN A ROW
just get more coupons and keep rolling 
severe oasis
OMFG I ROLLED THE -10 ON THE RANDOM SP COIN 7 TIMES IN A ROW
i deadass just dont take this
it literally killed me the other day
halcyon flame
ok but did you grind them at d15 or d12
D15 clears for class squads + tourist and the other goobers got D12
delicate aurora
I would rather have the def/atk&hp/res coins instead of a lose condition in my box
foggy oriole
it's just the -10 landing consecutively denying you from using any skills for an entire minute is anal
halcyon flame
D15 leader squad sounds balls
quartz crescent
OMFG I ROLLED THE -10 ON THE RANDOM SP COIN 7 TIMES IN A ROW
gws
halcyon flame
do it for me now
Nop
quartz crescent
is ED3 hard
well
assume that i dont have much of the current meta/game breakers
still swallow
D15 clears for class squads + tourist and the other goobers got D12
slopper
delicate aurora
getting relic and finding pathfinder node before floor 5 kind of annoying
but personally I find it easier than ED2
ED2 you have to rotate something for foot to stomp
ED3 I just lappter
quartz crescent
second endings being the absolute bullshit stages in almost every IS
delicate aurora
second endings being the absolute bullshit stages in almost every IS
Just draft 2 summoners 2 dps and 2 laneholders 
remote badger
<:mon3trsmug:1379581189484056696>
what the fuck
still swallow
:reallymad:
burnt lantern
How to do this stage?
gaunt bay
with exu it should be 167030 + 28489 from exu bombardment
so
195k total skill damage
not counting IS bonuses
severe oasis
How to do this stage?
open with a liberator
gaunt bay
maybe chalter is real
and shes only 24 dp now
(if you ignore shit cycles shit range and piss initial sp)
gaunt bay
yeah
gaunt bay
i will test
burnt lantern
I want to make sure:
- Garden of Grotesqueries refers to normal environment, and Ed1&2 Boss
- Sui's Remnant Consciousness is the bosky, AND Ed3 Boss right?
Im doing Ed3, and wanted to take curse relic that buff me in Sui Remnant Consc
delicate aurora
If I draft myrtle/surfer instead of beanstalk, am I just supposed to try and make the talisman guys up top eat the talismans so they dont reach raidian
woven wagon
If I draft myrtle/surfer instead of beanstalk, am I just supposed to try and mak...
Bunch of ways to deal with it on this stage, have a raidian summon face her or put her in ethan s1 range or just ignore it entirely tbh she can handle herself
Any melee op facing her is good enough to keep talismans off too
delicate aurora
Bunch of ways to deal with it on this stage, have a raidian summon face her or p...
can you afford to take a feesh off add clear on emergency though when the statuegeist gets placed in the middle? or do you have myrtle heal with s2
woven wagon
Haven’t had statuegeist spawn on this stage before, is that an emergency thing?
Probably best to leave it to a melee op facing her, put summon on lane clear
delicate aurora
I dont recall if its emergency specific but sometimes a statuegeist is here
slate pine
What's the best teams to use for the three different team requirement on Raidians upgrades?
wicked sandal
How to do this stage?
ground ops on top and bottom of red tile
only safe spots anyways
then fast redeploy like yato to clear high ground tiles for exu or trag or wis
woven wagon
I dont recall if its emergency specific but sometimes a statuegeist is here
If it’s there then it’s unkillable for just raidian, I think you should close mouth with dp asap and ignore
woven wagon
What's the best teams to use for the three different team requirement on Raidian...
If you haven’t unlocked high diff yet like d7+ then do whatever squad is easiest, otherwise do the is6 unique squads because you need clears with them for her m3 upgrades anyways
vagrant burrow
If it’s there then it’s unkillable for just raidian, I think you should close mo...
i had it recently and i was able to kill it with e1 raidian, albeit worth noting i'm not at d15 yet for the +50% statuegiest hp buff
i also used windscoot purestream raidian open, with purestream blocking some of the talismen for raidian so she could sit next to the statuegiest and help do damage
burnt lantern
Is this debuff mandatory to take for ed3?
woven wagon
Any “leads in different direction” is mandatory for endings
desert brook
yato s2 or s3 for ed2?
wicked sandal
3 should be better for boss
2 if u want to lanehold for some reason
ive actually never brought yato to ed2 but since boss is a 3x3 hitbox should be fine
foggy oriole
how many seconds do you have to dps sui foot after the last enemy spawns
neat pike
Revisiting old is
foggy oriole
I'm always perpetually scared of the hard timer
neat pike
Total ass
lofty quiver
Wtf
Still playing is5 and got this on a voucher
I forgot you could get ops you don't have
feral scroll
which starter and squads are good rn?
arctic panther
Is she good or only busted in is6
only in is6
normal shore
Does anyone know if the borderbound mirror affects the Yi summons on ED1?
foggy oriole
what the fuck ok
ed2 is so weird
last enemy spawns at 4:40
but you have 10 minutes to kill sui
I should have stalled the shit out of this stage long ago
severe oasis
what i do is i just get it to like 60% hp and then dont hit it anymore until every other enemy is dead
foggy oriole
well here's the thing right
severe oasis
i PROBABLY have enough time to just leave it at 100% but i dont want to risk it just incase
foggy oriole
you have like 5 and a half minutes to dps the foot
severe oasis
yeah and can also speed it up a lot by just having 6 ops deployed
foggy oriole
but you have like 3 minutes for ici
severe oasis
tbf foot is a lot tankier than sami
you also cant constantly dps it
but ofc ig you can get more damage in is6
foggy oriole
imo sami is just so much more of a threat that you'd just nuke phase 2 to shit asap usually
severe oasis
i usually nuke it asap even if it costs me a couple leaks yeah
although i mean
now we have tragodia
who just makes it unable to attack
foggy oriole
the enemy spawns in ici takes about 2:30 for wave 1 and about 4 minutes for wave 2
but realistically
wave 2 you want sami dead within 1-2 minutes
or you have a much bigger problem on your hands
severe oasis
apparently in ed2a, theres a killgate and you can stall one enemy to just murder the foot with no enemies on the field and deal with the enemies after
foggy oriole
apparently in ed2a, theres a killgate and you can stall one enemy to just murder...
according to tomimi it's a killgate or 60s
gaunt bay
rosecat are you winning
severe oasis
ya
gaunt bay
yay
severe oasis
my raidian will be done tonight or tmrw if im lazy
lvl90 and everything else
i still cant beat alternate fisherman
foggy oriole
huh interesting thats low for a 2nd wave spawn
oh wait wth
wave 1 to 2 has no timer
severe oasis
thats what i interpreted yeah
foggy oriole
2/3 and 3/4 has a 60s timer
well there isn't a wave 4 but
you get the idea
idk why they added the timer there
foggy oriole
but either way assuming you take your sweet time and run out the timer
you have close to 5 minutes to dps the foot
which is the entire length of the stage so far
that's way more lenient than I thought
gaunt bay
icl wis feels like shes doing absolutely nothing in most runs
severe oasis
i was saying the same thing
like to me she feels awful to use in is6
compared to exu, trag
foggy oriole
wisadel is my emotional support
severe oasis
she genuinely doesnt increase my winrate at all lmao
severe oasis
like half the time i dont even need to deploy her. she makes a noticeable difference in maybe 2-3 stages and none of them are bosses
foggy oriole
like half the time i dont even need to deploy her. she makes a noticeable differ...
ok I disagree
severe oasis
well its just in my experience and how i play each stage
not an objective statement
foggy oriole
ed1 genuinely has wisadel tiles
gaunt bay
shes makes a difference on ed2-3 ig
severe oasis
on 3 sure she helps me clear orbs
foggy oriole
and all 3 out of 3 f3 bosses are just instantly deleted by wisadel s3
gaunt bay
theres a lot of easier ways to deal with f3 bosses
severe oasis
i think i just dont like using her so i opt to Not
gaunt bay
im gonna play chalter once her mod comes out
she does like
piss nothing for 90% of stages en route though
foggy oriole
most notably the fuckin seiun sky ass fishing boss
severe oasis
actually ykw wis would probably make me win the alternate fisherman stage i keep complaining about
foggy oriole
is just deleted off the face of the map in 10 seconds
gaunt bay
im gonna have the most diabolical draft
severe oasis
bc he just tp's your ranged ops into the range of possessed throwers
but wis doesnt really care about that
also sometimes i struggle to lanehold on three masters
foggy oriole
I mean
woven wagon
Wis is great when you need her specific strengths (range + camo), kinda just an okay dps otherwise
I miss my flinger hand
foggy oriole
wisadel is cracked to the point where if you have initial sp and damage you could brute force ooc by slapping her down the middle, no micro shenanigans required
severe oasis
ive been fine with only exu and raidian as my dps like most of the time
foggy oriole
I mean it's better than their attempt to nerf wisadel in is5 expansion
like what the fuck is that w stage bro
severe oasis
the strat to it is refreshing
foggy oriole
whats it called again
gaunt bay
turns out wis is good if u give her 500 aspd and atk and just run her on s2
woven wagon
Flinger hand kinda hard carries wis
foggy oriole
the one with the uhh
scenic saffron
Hi kiwi, merry Christmas :3
foggy oriole
invisible w spawn on top right
gaunt bay
hii hotaru!
severe oasis
yeah elusive merc
gaunt bay
merry cristmas to you too!
scenic saffron
foggy oriole
elusive merc yea
gaunt bay
:ya:
foggy oriole
fuck that stage
severe oasis
lowkey the easiest of the big 4 dogshit stages
gaunt bay
nah
foggy oriole
meanwhile regular army
gaunt bay
regular army and shit you actually can reasonably get kingset
maybe chalice
and then damage wise its whatever
severe oasis
i mean, ive died to frequent dispute more than any other stage
foggy oriole
I mean with frequent dispute
gaunt bay
just hoe mly may
foggy oriole
I just let them break the roadblocks
foggy oriole
and then
gaunt bay
break roadblock and they all walk into hoederer up top
foggy oriole
guess this
gaunt bay
womp womp
severe oasis
me when i ban wis and dont have hoe
gaunt bay
just schwing schwing from mid
severe oasis
i mean tbf
foggy oriole
easiest stage in the game
severe oasis
dance in the rain with me
gaunt bay
i didnt get work done all day
foggy oriole
ngl with is6
I still have zero clue how hard it actually is
it's so weird that I can't even tell
severe oasis
i said the same thing like basically verbatim a few days ago
severe oasis
sometimes it feels easy and sometimes it feels harder than is4
and its more than just highroll vs lowroll
because i am not fucking highrolling
foggy oriole
one run I can struggle my ass off while missing 3 limbs limping along
and others I basically "wait is this really d12"
and I can never seem to find out why
severe oasis
all my easiest runs i barely got any objectively good relics or coins i genuinely dont know why it feels so different sometimes
steel relic
gaunt bay
tongbao highroll
crisp silo
is the 2nd ending relic on an encounter or in retrieval?
woven wagon
I hate any stages with the stupid dragon that flies after eating, some of them feel like guaranteed life loss
severe oasis
is the 2nd ending relic on an encounter or in retrieval?
legend node in wonderland. pay 30 ingots for a relic, giant foot boss spawns in all stages until you lower it to 50% hp, then you get another relic and exchange it in f5 prophecy to change the boss into ed2
steel relic
Pseudomuts are the worst
devout flicker
Is Tin Man from 4 or 5? How tough is he to get? I haven't done either yet.
woven wagon
Trying to fight off flying big bobs that spawn 3 at a time
severe oasis
ive never won this stage before
gaunt bay
Is Tin Man from 4 or 5? How tough is he to get? I haven't done either yet.
5, quite easy
jutst play is5
severe oasis
well i mean ive "won" it by leaking 12
foggy oriole
with other themes you can pinpoint what went wrong like
is2: not enough combats
is3: meta landed on my dps
is4: bro I'm not trying to collapsemaxx why am I at 28 in f4
is5: no chalice money
is6 I'm just like what the fuck am I even missing from the build
crisp silo
legend node in wonderland. pay 30 ingots for a relic, giant foot boss spawns in ...
no ed2 encounter so far
woven wagon
ive never won this stage before
The trick is to burst dps before dragons start spawning, killing just a few cripples them
severe oasis
no ed2 encounter so far
its one of the 2 unknown nodes branching off of the combats up top
its always in that 5x5 square
severe oasis
yes
iirc its ridiculously rare for it not to be
so either you won the non-lottery or you're misremembering
gaunt bay
cue the one recorded instance of cube not getting it
crisp silo
nope, it was like 2 runs ago but I was doing d4 so I just ignored it
severe oasis
nope, it was like 2 runs ago but I was doing d4 so I just ignored it
well congrats ig that probably wont happen again for a long time lmao
or you just missed it completely
foggy oriole
I once had an f5 ed2 and had to nuke the foot in 2 stages
severe oasis
its the one with the butterfly bg
foggy oriole
I hate it
woven wagon
I don’t think you need to kill foot in first place before boss do you?
severe oasis
you do
severe oasis
it can appear on yi's fight but if you're at that point the run isnt exactly continuing
i meant more as in, you need to kill it before boss if you want to do ed2
foggy oriole
what even happens if you kill the foot on ed3 route on yi fight
severe oasis
nothing
severe oasis
if you kill it at any point after the f5 prophecy node its useless
crisp silo
or you just missed it completely
last candle thank god
foggy oriole
right I always forget that you need to choose endings from the prop node now
severe oasis
yeah been a thing since is4 i think
steel relic
Ed2 has been chosen from prophecy since is4
severe oasis
idt that was in is3 im pre sure it just turned into knight when you enter f5
foggy oriole
nah it starts in 4
but 4 had this weird floor gen where the ed3 prop could overwrite the f5 sami/eik choice
severe oasis
@gaunt bay my head hurts
foggy oriole
which means if you took f4 net
severe oasis
yes 
gaunt bay
foggy oriole
you might cook your chances of eik fight
severe oasis
but 4 had this weird floor gen where the ed3 prop could overwrite the f5 sami/ei...
it still happens lol
unless you werent inferring had as in pasttense
foggy oriole
I guess I refer to anything that isn't 6 as being past
severe oasis
me when ed3 prophecy replaces the bottom one on f5 and i get forced to do ici (fuck ici)
foggy oriole
man speaking of 4
I need to attempt d15 love in sami again
I killed ball in d15 senti but never in a 7f run
severe oasis
imagine you beat sent and die to ee
gaunt bay
imagine you beat sent and die to ee
giga throwing
severe oasis
i play strictly on phone
severe oasis
ive died to sands but it was not after sent win luckily otherwise i would kms
foggy oriole
especially with tragodia in the game now I literally have zero excuse
if I die to sands
severe oasis
i mean realistically if you get past sent you are winning
its user error only past that point
severe oasis
if you have trigger/baro you are not beating sent. atleast im not. idk about you maybe you're cracked
foggy oriole
I think the run I beat senti I had baro2 but I also had an ungodly amount of initial dp
gaunt bay
baro2inj2 no vanguard sent gl hf
severe oasis
inj2 baro2 is death sentence 100% of the time for me
literally have never won ed3/4 with it
well i havent won ici with it either its probably even worse ther
severe oasis
🥹 you need to unwisrot yourself
gaunt bay
🥀
sinful sparrow
mpreg
severe oasis
is4 is like the one IS i have basically never used wis in
rough kindle
i keep losing to d12, e1 boss just hits too hard
gaunt bay
like she doesnt solve anything major
foggy oriole
I refuse, I will rot along with wisadel
gaunt bay
just retreat summons idk
pure talon
How do I play Ingot squad lmao
severe oasis
you refresh node and get shop and win
gaunt bay
play talons
severe oasis
repeat this like 6 times
gaunt bay
"just get"
severe oasis
the just get technology
gaunt bay
what is this tech
burnt lantern
Do you guys think K.Yato is mandatory for Ed3 IS6 that justify borrowing her?
gaunt bay
yato is mid
severe oasis
Do you guys think K.Yato is mandatory for Ed3 IS6 that justify borrowing her?
i literally dont have her in my account and consistently do ed3
severe oasis
what floor do you guys do clarity
burnt lantern
i literally dont have her in my account and consistently do ed3
Oh cool. I'll just try it out again then.
halcyon flame
what floor do you guys do clarity
4
severe oasis
am i throwing doing it on 5
halcyon flame
4 is the only time it’s guaranteed
foggy oriole
I do f4 clarity
gaunt bay
interesting
halcyon flame
Not necessarily but there’s a chance it doesn’t spawn on F5
So like
lol
You insta lose ur ed3 run
severe oasis
oh really, i assumed worst case scenario im just wasting good paths
it hasnt not spawned for me
halcyon flame
Nah it’s worse case 
gaunt bay
is f4 higher value than f5 for is6
foggy oriole
Nah it’s worse case <:fated:1368437704039207091>
I mean it's not as bad as is2 bullshit
mantle no abrupt
like bro
why
cold fjord
f4 is better because f5 has the slight chance of not rolling pathfinder
halcyon flame
Guidance 
severe oasis
euthy i wanted to ask if you could elaborate on saying encounter>emer on f4/5 earlier in help
i dont necessarily not believe u im just curious why
foggy oriole
for is6?
severe oasis
mhm
cold fjord
Guidance <:realmad:1347289137597911171>
im sorry i have to give up guidance
i wont give up coin machine thi
burnt lantern
Oh ya, there are 2 sucky debuff for Ed3:
- One that half our SP
- One that continuously reduce our HP
Whats the general strategy to overcome those? like when to take the debuff, or any path that guarantee relic to counter the effect for instance
cold fjord
euthy i wanted to ask if you could elaborate on saying encounter>emer on f4/5 ea...
cuz 4/5 encounters have a higher chance of combat
severe oasis
why does that make them better than guaranteed combat+relic though
do those encounter combats give other stuff too
halcyon flame
Because F5 EMs are unironically harder then bosses
gaunt bay
f5 emers are so piss man
severe oasis
oh so its a consistency thing not better in a literal sense?
halcyon flame
Yes
gaunt bay
ya
severe oasis
cold fjord
why does that make them better than guaranteed combat+relic though
f5 ems are pretty difficult and the encounter fights can give similar or better rewards
severe oasis
makes sense
gaunt bay
me when i get free emer from encounter just because i have radian
severe oasis
which ones that
halcyon flame
The one with the perma black dragons
halcyon flame
Flying around the map
cold fjord
Yeah it's the only case where u will get destroyed by an encounter
But still better than a f5 em since at max u leak 12
severe oasis
But still better than a f5 em since at max u leak 12
generally i can afford leaking 12 anyway so like
i did also find that f5 emers fucking suck ass
so i guess i will just avoid them
desert wing
does reapers passive/ mountain s2/eya passive proc the item that gives 1 sp to themselves and nearby allies when healed
arctic panther
Who do I start with
Tragodia or Wisadel
wis
gentle frost
does reapers passive/ mountain s2/eya passive proc the item that gives 1 sp to t...
I'd say mountain S2 is a definite no, since it's not actually healing, it's regeneration (different thing) Reaper/solo passive is a most likely bc you even see the healing number, and Eyja passive idk the mechanic so can't say
glossy phoenix
So how do you kill these bottles without a specialist voucher
glossy phoenix
I guess I should’ve picked narantuya
lofty quiver
Beautiful
lofty quiver
And I don't plan on blocking qui'lon
robust grail
did you not get a rise and fall
lofty quiver
My survivability is incredibly low, the counter is that my offense is incredibly high
What is a rise and fall
lofty quiver
Oh, no I didn't get one of those the whole run
I have the +35 aspd, best thing I had on hand
gaunt bay
those are from RA lol
arent they sourceless as well
robust grail
yes
lofty quiver
Last time I leaked the guy, this is my first attempt at a straight-up fight
robust grail
Oh, no I didn't get one of those the whole run
you can combine for it
lofty quiver
Yeah didn't get the lower tiers either
My thought luck was abysmal
Who's going on the boats
Imma load amiya in first thing
lofty quiver
I took as many as I could while still getting the needed wish fulfilleds
lofty quiver
lofty quiver
My theme for this was operators who, one way or another, exist in some form of godhood (definition very loose)( please ignore perfumer and texas I'm begging you)
lofty quiver
A loose niche because I knew what qui'lon would do to a real niche
robust grail
why don't you ahve Wiš'adel's module
robust grail
A loose niche because I knew what qui'lon would do to a real niche
he wouldn't really do much
lofty quiver
Did ending 2 with just the core babel ops, and ending 3 with sankta
lofty quiver
why don't you ahve Wiš'adel's module
I don't really use 6 stars much
robust grail
please mod your Wiš'adel immediately
lofty quiver
My first clears of each ed was 5 stars and below
robust grail
modless Wiš'adel is great
only modded Wiš'adel is amazing
send Wis S2 Lapp2 S2
Trag S3 holds left with Mystery Hand
lofty quiver
Wtf
robust grail
and never handmix ever again please
lofty quiver
Handmix?
robust grail
when in reality you're just not taking enough combats
blazing plover
how do amiya forms work in IS?
blazing plover
you can draft amiya from vouchers for all forms
does that make amiya more than just a meh to bad unit?
robust grail
handmixing is when you use several 6* operators that summon different hands and books from Lamp, which significantly slows down your Kings' progress
desert brook
but you have to go to your regular op menu and do the entire animation to change forms 
chrome tangle
you can change them at any time
not if u are doing her masteries
lofty quiver
Oh, yeah I know about that, I was being careful about it
robust grail
does that make amiya more than just a meh to bad unit?
Amiya is the strongest 5* in IS5 and IS6
and one of the strongest operators in IS5 and IS6
blazing plover
Amiya is the strongest 5* in IS5 and IS6
oh? does she benefit from other forms buffs? which form is best?
chrome tangle
is she actually that good in IS6?
robust grail
it depends on the IS
lofty quiver
I would've said amiya is that strong even without mixing three different class buff eligibilities
robust grail
for IS5, Guardmiya for Kaz Falls and Simulated Skirmish and Castmiya for Catastrophes and Medic for everything else
robust grail
I would've said amiya is that strong even without mixing three different class b...
no, she wouldn't
chrome tangle
just cause she's a medic?
halcyon flame
but shes so flexible
that you might as well
because if ur not playing with bans the caster voucher is p dead
blazing plover
no, she wouldn't
so she gets benefits from guard caster and medic buffs? or only the form she is currently in
robust grail
current
blazing plover
current
I see, and is it the flexibility that makes her the best 5 star or does a specific form stand out among the other two
desert brook
is she actually that good in IS6?
she is decent for bosky fights since you can change her role at will, and you can draft her from caster voucher which is very non competitive
robust grail
medic important for taking spines and generally powerful
blazing plover
she is decent for bosky fights since you can change her role at will, and you ca...
jokes on you all my tickets are non competitive
lofty quiver
What even is a "cage of chaos"
desert brook
if you dont have hope or w/e shes also just easy to consistently draft since you can get her off 3 diff vouchers
blazing plover
I have like a ton of guards and thats it lol
chrome tangle
for Raidian mod, if I clear D10 ED3 does that unlock lv2 and lv3
or do I still have to do the D9 ED3
chrome tangle
that didnt answer the question euthy !
neat pike
Uhh do having ed 2 curio affect anything to ed 3 ?
desert brook
I see, and is it the flexibility that makes her the best 5 star or does a specif...
theres a gimmick with mod3 where she can fully heal the injured birds so that + good spine killer makes her utility very good
neat pike
I forget im aiming ed 3 but i take ed 2 curio too
blazing plover
theres a gimmick with mod3 where she can fully heal the injured birds so that + ...
do her modules transfer like her level?
robust grail
you have to build all seperately
blazing plover
btw any help for ways to consistently clear is6 without supports? or should I continue to rely on trag/exu2. It would be nice to clear beyond d0 with just my own roster but my accounts still new. The only way I can clear is by getting like 90 objective shield from bosky
robust grail
btw any help for ways to consistently clear is6 without supports? or should I co...
there is no shame in using supports
blazing plover
see ISC's low rarity build recommendations
oh thanks thats great for me actually
blazing plover
there is no shame in using supports
not shame, just interested in the possibility
blazing plover
mhm yep it's just the support units feel too strong and without supports I feel too weak so I wish I could just find a middle ground
like exu2 and tragodia kind of solve everything themselves
blazing plover
true lol
blazing plover
yeah they are... really strong. I wish I was playing when the exu2 banner was around because I love her design
blazing plover
yes but he solo solves that fight basically. Granted its not as difficult as the other endings but still
feels night and day doing ed1 with and without trag. It's like having an executor but better
obsidian needle
ed1 without trag is just suffering
gaunt bay
tragodia not really
Mei how real do you think chalter will be post second module
In is6
blazing plover
https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/low-rarity-recommendations/
on this and the is6 guide does the m3 of stuff like s2m3 refer to module or mastery?
blazing plover
this is standard notation
cool thanks im just new sry
robust grail
i can tell
blazing plover
i can tell
ouch :P
robust grail
yeah they are... really strong. I wish I was playing when the exu2 banner was ar...
^
blazing plover
^
my account is from before exu2 banner I just take... regular breaks (I was actually a day 1 player I just lost my account)
Shu and Virtuosa after all
I exactly missed out from wisadel all the way to exu2 lol
round trellis
I am having the most cracked run
therapy tape, the stun + arts damage every 10s after hitting 99 dp, sting puppet, children's puppet
-40sp cost coin, and every vanguard collectible under the sun
I don't even need to do anything and the map stuns itself and dies
and 5 stacks on the family stir fry
cedar vapor
What best squad to use in is6
round trellis
depends on high level and who you've raise and/or can borrow
generally speaking, the special squad is most consistent when starting out once you've unlocked it
oak birch
which ops is great to bring for end2?
gaunt bay
Exu
green sable
Could someone give me some pointers on how to use Phantom with his Mod-α most effectively?
neat pike
uhh does banana mobs count as summon ?
serene stirrup
🔥
agile hill
do you guys use yato s1 for ed 2?
agile hill
Run won't give me the flinger hand wtf
us this backwards deep investigation
pure talon
Just a regular run
zenith fable
How do u deal with the dragon enemy that eats an op? It seems like I can only DMG him with trag cat
In is6
low vortex
thats F6 and ingot squad lmao
agile hill
How do u deal with the dragon enemy that eats an op? It seems like I can only DM...
they got 1800 def if they don't eat anything
pure talon
Small question
How do I get my ops to the last phase lmao
pure talon
Last time I only got 1 op there and failed horribly
agile hill
Small question
How do I get my ops to the last phase lmao
put them on the boat
only way
pure talon
Oh.
zenith fable
and then hover
What does hover mean? Like just become a flying enemy?
flint token
do you guys use yato s1 for ed 2?
Why
agile hill
What does hover mean? Like just become a flying enemy?
yes
flint token
foot has like 1k def yato s1 aint gonna do shit
stray dove
Oh no, this might ruin my Bank number amt that I usually do (like 555, 666, 777, 888)
agile hill
foot has like 1k def yato s1 aint gonna do shit
i mean to deal with the hit count enemy
flint token
i mean to deal with the hit count enemy
er tbh i find s2 better than s1 for that
Cuz true aoe
agile hill
they are not going to be together most of thee time
flint token
I mean
agile hill
and with s1 you can wait for them to comme at yato
twin delta
oh god D4 of the new is do be rough. Yi suddenly being way tankier is damn scary
agile hill
have anyone tested how much dps collectible you need to have a run with exu and and radian not needing to worry about damaging the boss while before 54/55?
round trellis
How do u deal with the dragon enemy that eats an op? It seems like I can only DM...
In base state he is a ground enemy with 1.5k defense.
After he eats something (same mechanics as sarkaz devourers) he becomes a floating unit that can only be targeted by stuff that can target air, but his defense goes to 0.
twin delta
elemental damage does wonders against them
agile hill
ok apparently the ranged op + def collectible is actually good for ed 2?
round trellis
there are a variety of solutions, but it depends on your roster
serene stirrup
ok apparently the ranged op + def collectible is actually good for ed 2?
apparently it deals a triple attack that deals 800 base phy each
round trellis
generally speaking, people feed it something disposable like a radian summon, then use physical burst to kill it
twin delta
There is a lot of variety this IS, save for dealing with furniture (just bring ethan)
round trellis
if you have high dph physical, you can just brute force them
I personally bring lemuen for them
agile hill
for ending 2 and 3 run on end 2 battle, you only have to heal exu right? no need to heal radian
or depends on boss damage and your op hp
ionic bridge
Wutdahel is this stage bruh 😭 i'm getting single digit fps
round trellis
all the pre spawned raidian turrets are chained together
probably the particle effects of them all firing at once
agile hill
what is the dps and skill rotation coverage needed to keep killing them and not leak them
on ed 3
serene stirrup
bro stop giving me specialist vouchers 💀
main bison
game gives me no one and expects me to do something
twin delta
roguelikes do be like that
zenith fable
In base state he is a ground enemy with 1.5k defense.
After he eats something (s...
Ok thx I was wondering why I couldn't hit him but it's always after he eats the guys at the top of the one map
steel relic
Exu so broken
main bison
knowing me, it's probably my fault somehow...
twin delta
nah it just happens, sometimes the game just dumps a bunch of defender and med tokens
main bison
this any good?
twin delta
and then you cri
main bison
might just go for it anyway
steel relic
It’s alright
Value entirely depends on how many fights you get with it tossed and who you get from them
drowsy breach
I suck at Sui's garden
serene stirrup
I suck at Sui's garden
Sui's garden's bad instead 🔥
agile hill
this any good?
guys is this even good
twin delta
you might not be ready for this mode
main bison
yeah, I have no blockers...
twin delta
New IS is pretty rough
drowsy breach
you might not be ready for this mode
like I need more girls built?
raw vault
what's the angle here?
main bison
I'm trying to enjoy it, but honestly it still sucks
twin delta
I find it easy but I'm a stacked year 1 account
alpine sedge
Anyone using bluestacks and crashing on is6? Just lost my 3rd D10 run because game crashed on the final boss.
twin delta
well the first diff anyhow
main bison
yeah, no Blockers is dumb
main bison
well the first diff anyhow
I'm at d10, with a 5 year account and it sucks
rocky agate
Im trying to do ending 3 in IS6, but I keep getting really fucked up at ISW-NO, is there any strategy advice for it? I just cant find things to get placed down
twin delta
are you not using Raidian?
agile hill
is it just me, it feels like gaining hp or shield becomes pretty hard to reasonable aim for after first wonderland entry
twin delta
She makes this mode significantly easier
stray dove
Ender, every comment I read you type here has always bashed every IS
I don't know if you even like the mode
rocky agate
She makes this mode significantly easier
Yes I am but shes not helping here
main bison
I don't know if you even like the mode
call it forced torture
steel relic
Im trying to do ending 3 in IS6, but I keep getting really fucked up at ISW-NO, ...
ISW-NO is the designation for literally every stage in the gamemode, you’ll need to be more specific
main bison
IS5 was ok once I figured it all out
rocky agate
ISW-NO is the designation for literally every stage in the gamemode, you’ll need...
This layout with the flaws spawning, it just messed me up
main bison
IS4 was kind of insane
stray dove
IS5 was ok once I figured it all out
it was also the most boring once you figure out "Lamp"
its ultimate flaw
main bison
I'm fine with boring
obsidian needle
Wisadel at top. Leizi at bottom.
rocky agate
This layout with the flaws spawning, it just messed me up
I can survive it but I hate how much it bleeds me for life points
obsidian needle
round trellis
yeah, no Blockers is dumb
ngl raidian does 80% of the work for this map
pretty much a free win
rocky agate
Wisadel at top. Leizi at bottom.
The flaw spawns top right and just fucks her up
agile hill
Wisadel at top. Leizi at bottom.
i don't think wisadel even do anything before you take out the flaws
rocky agate
i don't think wisadel even do anything before you take out the flaws
Bingo
agile hill
you need to use amiya first, but takes a while
rocky agate
Not without some nice sp collectibles
agile hill
Not without some nice sp collectibles
what kind of sp collectible is needed
round trellis
the ed3 fight at the candleholder node is mostly solved by leizi
agile hill
i think you need to toss the -40% coin
rocky agate
what kind of sp collectible is needed
Oh I dunno, IM just saying in general
round trellis
or anybody with SA/Mlynar range
rocky agate
the ed3 fight at the candleholder node is mostly solved by leizi
I used her but I still cant get much placed down
agile hill
apparently people say mlynar is better at that stage than leizi?
rocky agate
I still bleed when the minibosses get thrown in
round trellis
I used her but I still cant get much placed down
this depends on vanguard lineup and if you have shu or stall like mizuki/ethan/ascalon
agile hill
also i feel like leizi is a scam, pick mlynar no? i guess her selling point is mostly e1 usage.
main bison
I'm still on the fence about her, Leizi
I feel like Guards and Casters are crap this IS
rocky agate
this depends on vanguard lineup and if you have shu or stall like mizuki/ethan/a...
No Shu, I only really utilize Yu, Zuo Le, and Ulpianus
main bison
unless it's maybe Lappland
agile hill
leizi range is very iffy
twin delta
yeah, I like Raidian, but I didn't get any Supporters this run
but you have a supporter on your party???
main bison
and Ines feels weak too
round trellis
agile hill
like a map can just say no to your leizi usage
main bison
but you have a supporter on your party???
she was a free recruit from that coin
round trellis
any agent can target the flaws on the left to let you deploy a high ground op
main bison
4 relics F3 is awful
rocky agate
mmm, I havent been picking my Exusai alter up as much but maybe its time I return to her cheap damage
agile hill
how did you even get exu on there, i think it takes quite a bit of stats to even dominate that tile
round trellis
and Ines feels weak too
Ines feels more of a luxury unit, but a very strong one for a luxury unit
rocky agate
how did you even get exu on there, i think it takes quite a bit of stats to even...
especially with the 4 flaws
agile hill
i think yato need 2 swipes on a good run to take out flaw
rocky agate
I really like this IS but damn some of these layouts peeve me
agile hill
what about when run is not going well
round trellis
mmm, I havent been picking my Exusai alter up as much but maybe its time I retur...
pretty much I either leizi + shu stall to wipe the top of the map
or double agent rush the flaws on the left side to put down exu and start blasting
this was a high roll run where i could do both
drowsy breach
what's the best squad type? like tourist etc
I've been using the 5 star promo one and the bigger deployment limit one mostly
main bison
Ines feels more of a luxury unit, but a *very* strong one for a luxury unit
that's fair, but Surfer feels meh, and I haven't tired Cantabile yet with this IS
rocky agate
pretty much I either leizi + shu stall to wipe the top of the map
or double age...
Most of my ops were high tile characters on my last run 
I just keep getting messed up on it since that level has practically no reliable high tiles
round trellis
I like cantabile a lot more than surfer
twin delta
Think once you've gotten Raidian built(-ish), you want to do the free vouchers every stage one
blazing plover
medic amiya in is6 is insane. I got the 60 ASPD for medics and the tongbao that makes skills autocast at 40% less sp. infinite healing.
drowsy breach
Think once you've gotten Raidian built(-ish), you want to do the free vouchers e...
oki ill try
twin delta
since it solves a lot of hope and gives a ton of candleguests
agile hill
medic amiya in is6 is insane. I got the 60 ASPD for medics and the tongbao that ...
not that insane, but saved me a run where i only had her as my candle guest healer
for ed 3
main bison
honestly Amiya feels lacking too
I'm starting to wonder if my game's broken
everyone that's "busted" feels like garbage
blazing plover
not that insane, but saved me a run where i only had her as my candle guest heal...
had the tongbao that gives + MHP for each shield and about 40 obj shield and amiya managed to heal every ranged unit on my squad through unmitigated ed1 summons cause my relics messed up my stalling (the stun at max dp relic)
rocky agate
everyone that's "busted" feels like garbage
I feel it, everything just feels a little resistant
round trellis
eh, I'm at d15 now, I don't think there is any more than just normal IS variance
blazing plover
screw that stun at max dp relic btw it makes ed1 stalling so much more finnicky
main bison
eh, I'm at d15 now, I don't think there is any more than just normal IS variance
feels worse than IS5 d12
round trellis
I would actually venture to say that it's a lot more easy to get stupidly, hilariously, busted in the IS compared to IS5
main bison
if you can exploit Ling and Dusk maybe
agile hill
had the tongbao that gives + MHP for each shield and about 40 obj shield and ami...
ok, but if you have 40 shield, you win mostly unless there is some serious issue with your squad, like no being able to tank ed 2, or not being able to dps ed 2,
main bison
but I haven't figured that out
main bison
I think overall I just don't know how the tactic to this IS vs IS5 for example
blazing plover
ok, but if you have 40 shield, you win mostly unless there is some serious issue...
yes I could have just cleared one side and even leaked the boss I think. lol. are they going to nerf tavern?
I can get 40-50 obj shield once every 2 or 3 runs atp ngl...
urban notch
what's so good about tavern?
main bison
I honestly just must be missing something
agile hill
does anyone know how much dps you need for ed 2
main bison
because I typically get HP chipped every fight
round trellis
I honestly just must be missing something
probably abusing raidian
main bison
and can't get anyone, and can't get any relics
agile hill
with normal draft
round trellis
raidian is the wisadel of this IS
twin delta
raidian is the wisadel of this IS
Both her, and ethan is this IS
main bison
raidian is the wisadel of this IS
I thought Tragodia was, but she certainly is decent (Raidian)
blazing plover
what's so good about tavern?
if you get mega rich you can trade ingots into objective shield pretty consistently at about 2 to 1 ratio. The only problem is you need to do it in bosky. But if you're mega rich, find tavern and can run it enough to get 50+ obj shield its basically a won run
main bison
maybe because mind isn't maxed out
agile hill
why is stir fry in everyones screenshot
round trellis
ethan isn't necessary but he is free
steel relic
Apparently your ops don’t need to actually stay deployed to maintain fist classics 123 stacks
blazing plover
why is stir fry in everyones screenshot
solo carry item thats why]
steel relic
Exu died, I redeployed her and she blasted Yi with 1900 atk
agile hill
solo carry item thats why]
i mean is it that frequent
twin delta
ethan isn't necessary but he is free
There's so many furniture stages tho
round trellis
I thought Tragodia was, but she certainly is decent (Raidian)
trag is good but not entirely necessary, he's a fine "oh shit" button
blazing plover
i mean is it that frequent
I get it once every 3 or so runs and people probably only post their insane runs anyways
main bison
true, but he was touted for ed1
blazing plover
I thought Tragodia was, but she certainly is decent (Raidian)
decent and she is undisputed top 1 unit in the entire mode lol
main bison
I started with Exu Alter last run, it sucked with no real blocker
round trellis
true, but he was touted for ed1
he's part of the most simple E1 perma stall with gravel
main bison
then I'll just start with her from now on
main bison
pure talon
Lmao
blazing plover
I started with Exu Alter last run, it sucked with no real blocker
which squad did you start with? you should have had a blocker at least from tactician no?
round trellis
Raidian S1 can pretty lock Yi into place forever
main bison
tactician?
round trellis
oh, only mastery 1 here
obsidian needle
Beanstalk
blazing plover
tactician?
beanstalk
blazing plover
myrtle :(
main bison
she's kind of one of those hit or miss units for me
blazing plover
run beanstalk so much comfier
main bison
Flagbearers just feel meh at E1
blazing plover
Flagbearers just feel meh at E1
I never e2 flagbearers lol
main bison
other option is to just start with Raidian
blazing plover
other option is to just start with Raidian
if you own exu2 then you can start with raidian yeah
twin delta
funnily enough this is the one mode where I don't bother with flagbearers that much
blazing plover
or if you own trag for ed1
round trellis
myrtle is fine if you find youself needing to heal off talisman burn damage at d15
but that's not until much later
main bison
if you own exu2 then you can start with raidian yeah
yeah, I do, only 6* that's anything that I lack is Ente
and even then, that subclass is one I feel is lacking anyway
blazing plover
yeah, I do, only 6* that's anything that I lack is Ente
or you could run the free max pot raidian squad tbh
blazing plover
it's very good if you're just trying to rise through the difficulties
main bison
trying to get those different objectives
blazing plover
I think I went with Sui Squad last run
nah free max pot raidian is really really good since she also has all passives
which means you get zero deployment slot summons which idk if you have yet makes raidian top 1 unit in the mode
main bison
true I suppose, trying to M9 mine mod 3 etc anyway
I thought I had that talent, but for some reason it doesn't work?
blazing plover
zero deployment slot summons. If you candle her f2 you can clear any fight in bosky solo basically
obsidian needle
it activate on F4
blazing plover
I thought I had that talent, but for some reason it doesn't work?
do you have the final version of the talent?
yeah it activates late
twin delta
yea the upgraded version of raidian is wacky
blazing plover
but early you dont care about deployment limit cause you have no units anyways LOL
main bison
do you have the final version of the talent?
blazing plover
if you're running into deployment issues on f2 bosky you're just getting very lucky imo
twin delta
her not taking up deploy slots with the summons is really strong (the one major issue with all summoners)
queen basin
does this mean to kill yi with raidians summons getting the final hit or kill yi with radian's summons deployed somewhere on the map not nessarly hitting yi at all
round trellis
does this mean to kill yi with raidians summons getting the final hit or kill yi...
last hit yi with radian summons
main bison
does this mean to kill yi with raidians summons getting the final hit or kill yi...
her or her summons, yes
I used her to tank with S1
blazing plover
Again, trying to get ending 2
you can clear ed2 with just raidian, exu2 and an agent vanguard basically
queen basin
woah
main bison
you can clear ed2 with just raidian, exu2 and an agent vanguard basically
I tried that, it failed miserably
blazing plover
just make sure to have like 20 ish obj shield + HP
main bison
I even made a video
blazing plover
I tried that, it failed miserably
do you know the strat?
blazing plover
yeah, I didn't have nearly that much HP
you need 20 ish hp to leak the entire left side
or it doesnt work
blazing plover
yeah you gotta abuse tavern
main bison
and Exu did nothing for damage on the boss
blazing plover
right side shouldnt leak exu2 should deal with it
blazing plover
and Exu did nothing for damage on the boss
s2 exu2?
main bison
I had Exu, Leumen, Wisadel, nothing
blazing plover
also boss damage doesnt matter
main bison
yes, S2M3
main bison
well, I honestly thought I couldn't use Raidian at first
so I didn't even consider her
blazing plover
if you place other units like you placed rose salt it messes it up
main bison
otherwise I would have brought Gravel too
blazing plover
because the boss targets the area with the most units
round trellis
ngl, you needed an agent vanguard to kill the spawner instead of myrtle
sudden cloak
https://youtu.be/rm6hG8eJrGU?si=19eUMOlTENJTbrcD
Ed2 is basically Exu + Raidian and then u deploy backup for the lane and when Boss stomp
main bison
well, it was my first attempt
blazing plover
ngl, you needed an agent vanguard to kill the spawner instead of myrtle
yes, you can just start with uh raidian and you can support in an agent vanguard if you dont own one but im guessing you do :P
main bison
and I legit thought I had to bring Candleguests too
otherwise I would have brought Gravel in place of Click
round trellis
wisadel is a mistake for ending 2
main bison
I also had no Agent, was only Myrtle
round trellis
basically useless almost
blazing plover
ngl, you needed an agent vanguard to kill the spawner instead of myrtle
the evil and intimidating ethan
main bison
basically useless almost
S2?
blazing plover
wis is... not great in this is imo
at least in comparison to her other performances
main bison
she's carried better than most for me
sudden cloak
Just immediately retreat the revenant
main bison
but I agree
obsidian needle
well atleast she can clear left side in case of not enough life
blazing plover
S2?
s2 can clear left side but tbh just go tavern it and get 20+ obj shield and leak it all who cares
round trellis
S2?
you might as well use grey alter for nearly the same result and a fraction of the hope cost
blazing plover
you're not trying to get a no leak clear you're trying to get a clear so
the only issue is you need a LOT of money for ed2
round trellis
yeah, these placements are wrong
main bison
I barely unlocked it to begin with that run
blazing plover
since you need 30 for event and probably another 20 for 2 uses of tavern
blazing plover
and I don't even think I had a tavern in Bosky
its guarenteed to spawn in the inner 5x5
main bison
well, I was going to use Raidian where Leumen went
but like I said, I didn't expect her to be deployable at all
blazing plover
well, I was going to use Raidian where Leumen went
you're overcomplicating it
main bison
and I think she was E1
blazing plover
it's basically a 3 unit clear
main bison
I get that now
main bison
I recruited Rose Salt thinking she was going to help with healing
and yeah, Mizuki was auto E2
blazing plover
I recruited Rose Salt thinking she was going to help with healing
rose salt is for dealing with the slam yes but the whole point is that exu2 s2 does that for you
main bison
and I don't think I even had his IS module equipped now that I'm thinking of it
serene stirrup
my run had so broken stuff that I rolled -45% hp on ed2 boss stage
blazing plover
and I don't think I even had his IS module equipped now that I'm thinking of it
ouch basically wasnt a unit then lol
round trellis
I recruited Rose Salt thinking she was going to help with healing
for ending 2 you want a wide range healer otherwise you're just lumping up your units for the foot's targetting
serene stirrup
and one exu s3 cleared 3/4 of boss HP
sudden cloak
S2 is better bcs atksp increase make him pull even faster
main bison
for ending 2 you want a wide range healer otherwise you're just lumping up your ...
Purestream?
obsidian needle
Purestream.