is-station

[stray dove]

and not just wing everything

[remote badger]

casters is trash

on higher diff

[woeful anchor]

its not, but good IS players generally yap about IS and casual IS players dont yap about IS

[remote badger]

outside of the starters

[pastel saffron]

I was fighting someone in help they wanted to pick between logos and ines and I was like bro hoshi is coming casters are gone to shit not even cc use

[woeful anchor]

i have not seen a single good IS player in EN that isnt in any IS chatroom

[jovial quarry]

casters except amiya and nymph are all trash

[marble copper]

and you probably haven't seen any capybaras irl so they don't exist, gg

[stray dove]

the majority of players don't even like playing Tower Defense. So they rely hard on Ecko or Kyo carrying their asses.
And guess which game mode they can't 1:1 guide their way through?
That's right....IS.

[remote badger]

rougelike mmm

[jovial quarry]

and for 5* defender bassline and underflor might work, if you get like 8 defender's voucher in a run

[sinful sparrow]

wtf

🫃

[marble copper]

I don't like tower defense games but I like arknights

[woeful anchor]

i have a friend who owns one, but i am just saying my anecdote, i am not saying its impossible to have a good IS player to not participate in the community, i am saying it is just incredibly unlikely

[stray dove]

then AK is your gateway

[marble copper]

I don't think it's a tower defense game

[stray dove]

to appreciating TD

[marble copper]

honestly

[remote badger]

rts maybe

[stray dove]

it's a TD. just designed differently

[woeful anchor]

AK is not rts

theres literally a pause button

💢

[stray dove]

....jesus christ I wanted to punch you so hard for saying AK could be an RTS

[remote badger]

somehow my brain keep saying it is

[woeful anchor]

how

[marble copper]

tower defense games don't have blocking
and tower defense games are usually about building a maze, in ak that hardly ever happens

[woeful anchor]

u press pause and now u have infinite time to think

[stray dove]

....PVZ exists...

[shy widget]

it's a tower defence

[woeful anchor]

btd doesnt have maze

[shy widget]

lol

[pastel saffron]

if ur good at ak, ur gon be good at IS, at which point only reason to really avoid it would be time

but gacha players can always make time

[stray dove]

there's many versions of TD

[marble copper]

pvz is also not a conventional tower defense game

[woeful anchor]

no...

[stray dove]

you either just defend a lane like Bloons

block like PvZ

[nocturne cape]

Kingdom rush also has blocking (sort of)

[jovial quarry]

do traditional td game ask players to operate within 2 or 3 frames?

[stray dove]

or AK it up

[shy widget]

arknights along with bloons is the best TD game simply due to its sheer depth

[stray dove]

conventions are made to be broken....innovated even

in the end, AK is one of the best versions a TD can evolve into

[serene stirrup]

Bloons is great but ninja kiwi sucks

[pastel saffron]

is clash of clans tower defense

[marble copper]

ok so we agree ak is not a td thanks for coming to my ted talk

[serene stirrup]

😭

[remote badger]

but i played a hybrid of rts and tds

[stray dove]

it's closer to the Catz game

i don't know what genre to call it

[remote badger]

should be why

[marble copper]

ak is a third person shooter if you only use kroos

[woeful anchor]

btd6 doesnt feel like it has depth outside of the boss events

[serene stirrup]

expert map CHIMPS

[shy widget]

you haven't played the game enough

[woeful anchor]

the "low ops" with bans is pretty fun

[stray dove]

Bloons is stuck with the usual design of TDs

[halcyon flame]

[nocturne cape]

Actually peak

[woeful anchor]

wat

[nocturne cape]

Good work

[tranquil lintel]

what do the piss on the floor do in IS6

[remote badger]

peak

[halcyon flame]

this is the beginning of my agenda slander

[serene stirrup]

Also bloons nowadays is just
"Let's give the Boss 2500% speed or 500% health because that would be fun and difficult!"

[marble copper]

:)

[nocturne cape]

I look forward to more of your works

[woeful anchor]

i cleared a bunch of expert map chimps

[stray dove]

varies in effect depending on relic or coins

[woeful anchor]

[shy widget]

you have freeplay (easy or chimps is its own beast), racing and boss events, chimps, deflation runs, apopalypse runs, other events and it has its own roguelike (which is not even close to AKs but it's decent)

[marble copper]

certain coins make those tiles give buffs

[woeful anchor]

oh right racing exists

[shy widget]

and for every single mode you have to use different stuff and optimize differently

[copper orchid]

No way free

[stray dove]

AK's IS is such high quality that it's now the gold standard every gacha tries to do with their own roguelite modes

[woeful anchor]

yes but u get nothing different when u optimize ur run

outside of boss events

[stray dove]

problem is

[shy widget]

Wdym you get nothing out of it

[marble copper]

government handout

[stray dove]

those gachas don't have AK core gameplay

[woeful anchor]

beating a stage with least tiers gives u the same shit as beating the stage normally

[stray dove]

which leads to natural roguelite design

[serene stirrup]

I once entered this with 0 ingots

[woeful anchor]

whereas in boss events u need to play least tiers

if the metric is least tiers

[shy widget]

why are we moving the goalpoasts here

[woeful anchor]

wat

[marble copper]

poasts

[sonic sable]

Who are apparition enemies?

[copper orchid]

Does 0 allow u to take or nah

[stray dove]

furnitures?

[shy widget]

we went from "it has no depth" to "it gives you the same shit if you beat it on a different mode"

[copper orchid]

Because 1 lets u take for free

[woeful anchor]

it has no depth bc ur not required to do it

u need to be forced to do it

[shy widget]

you can do it on your own

[marble copper]

75% of 1 is 0

[remote badger]

it just a /

[woeful anchor]

u can say that for every game then

[tranquil lintel]

swim in piss gives power, got it

[woeful anchor]

does this mean every game has depth

[shy widget]

erm

[stray dove]

depends

does Pong have depth?

[shy widget]

did you not read what i said

[woeful anchor]

u can calculate the amount of force needed to throw the dice when playing snakes and ladders, theres depth

[sonic sable]

I heard ange can solo left lane ed2?

[marble copper]

dumbest conversation I have witnessed in months

[shy widget]

you have multiplicity of modes which require a lot of different stuff to do and work around to beat, you choose what you want to do

[stray dove]

indeed

[serene stirrup]

ascalon better trust

[marble copper]

reading that just made my jaw drop in awe

[shy widget]

i don't understand what point you're trying to make

[stray dove]

either way, the different ISs all have different maps and metas

[marble copper]

"does pong have depth" lmfao

[stray dove]

I love its variety

[woeful anchor]

my point is theres no depth in bloons outside of the boss events (and races too ig but i didnt mention that a while ago cos i forgor about then)

[marble copper]

that message needs to be pinned

that's amazing

[stray dove]

it's rhetorical btw

[shy widget]

and you are just simply wrong because you have not played the game enough if you claim that the game has no depth outside of boss events

[stray dove]

because someone was stupid enough to ask if every game has depth

[sonic sable]

Doubt she can solo

[woeful anchor]

but ur bringing up self limtations

[shy widget]

no, i have not

you brought it up

[marble copper]

it's so stupid in any usage of it, whether you think it does or doesn't have depth it is such a deadend statement lmao

[shy widget]

i jsut answered your point

[woeful anchor]

huh

where is the depth then

[sonic sable]

Can u two kiss alreadt

[nocturne cape]

^

[woeful anchor]

wtf

[shy widget]

in the plethora of other game modes that you can play?

[sinful sparrow]

gm cube
gn fib

:mon3trsmug:

[stray dove]

depth in the end is fucking subjective

[woeful anchor]

but its not rly hard

[stray dove]

i've seen people get entertained by the simplest games

[shy widget]

?????

[stray dove]

I can't relate to

[marble copper]

yes but also no

[woeful anchor]

wat

[shy widget]

it is hard depending on what you're trying to do lol

[sonic sable]

Did u guys see the ros skin

[woeful anchor]

just beat the stage

without any self bans/limitations

[shy widget]

just like literally every single thing in every game

that's not "depth"

it being "hard"

[nocturne cape]

Cutie

[woeful anchor]

u need the stuff to be hard to have depth no?

[stray dove]

no

depth is complexity

[remote badger]

want it but no ros 🥀

[nocturne cape]

Im drafting her first for my squad medal runs just for the skin

[stray dove]

it is not difficulty

[sonic sable]

I am thinking ros s2 for left side ed2 btw

[woeful anchor]

thats the same thing no?

[halcyon flame]

no

pls

[woeful anchor]

complex is difficult

[shy widget]

Absolutely not

[stray dove]

same way a simple game doesn't mean it's an easy game

[woeful anchor]

wats the difference then

[sonic sable]

Flingers attack thrice no each atk?

[shy widget]

the difference is that complexity has more parts to it than something being simple

[remote badger]

not that

[woeful anchor]

ok wat does complexity mean then, for u

[marble copper]

the word "depth" in videogames is often used to indicate a high skill ceiling
now that you have a real definition you can start punching eachother and I'm going to leave, enjoy the boxing match
🔔

[shy widget]

if i task you to make a circuit board and lift 200kg pounds both are "difficult"

[sonic sable]

What is 200 kg pounds?

[stray dove]

allowing for more variety of options to approach the goal

[woeful anchor]

yes both r complex tasks cos its both hard

[shy widget]

okay then

you beat me

[woeful anchor]

idk u wont define wat complex is

[shy widget]

lifting 200kg and making a circuit board are complex

[woeful anchor]

[shy widget]

i did

[woeful anchor]

thats how i understand complex

[shy widget]

you're literally not reading

what i'm writing

[pastel saffron]

I can lift 200kg, its not complex

just go gym 4x a week

and deadlift

done

[woeful anchor]

u just said its not X

[shy widget]

it's not complex but it's difficult

[remote badger]

since when we turned into defining words

[shy widget]

i have no idea

anyway gl

[stray dove]

there's such a thing as complex but easy
and simple but hard

difficulty =/= depth

[sonic sable]

I am also thinking of drafting puzzle for hit count

How mpreg is that?

[stray dove]

very

[remote badger]

hyper

[woeful anchor]

ok then, its not hard

since u think complexity and difficultness is different

sure

[sonic sable]

Actually seeing a yt vid where bro uses puzzle for left lane

[stray dove]

you want a simple but hard game?

play I wanna be the Guy

[sinful sparrow]

oh thank god i was "lowrolling" on damage

thanks HG

[stray dove]

or Super Meat Boy

[sonic sable]

Puzzle plus two other ops

[sinful sparrow]

@nocturne cape

i ate ur mpreg relics again

[nocturne cape]

Bro

[tepid hamlet]

what does +30 cost limit mean?

[sonic sable]

Which one will u take here?

[sinful sparrow]

coin machine

(drum)

[pastel saffron]

the 2nd one is so good

[stray dove]

going above 99 DP

[woeful anchor]

+30 dp cap

[sinful sparrow]

it has a higher ceiling

[stray dove]

there are multiple relics

that get buffs

[remote badger]

now u add 30

[stray dove]

when above 99 DP

[remote badger]

like usually u have 99DP max

bru

[nocturne cape]

I might take stir depending on your bosky

[tepid hamlet]

ohhh

[remote badger]

fuckass wifi

[woeful anchor]

stir wat

[nocturne cape]

Stir-fry

[woeful anchor]

oh

[sonic sable]

Fry seem to have infinite ceiling

[woeful anchor]

mika posted an img

i didnt see ‼️

[nocturne cape]

Lmao

[sinful sparrow]

i finished most bosky combats

🥗

[stray dove]

Doesn't fry cap on how many combat WiWs are left?

[woeful anchor]

🥹 im blind

pls understand

[nocturne cape]

You fell for the ragebait and that makes you blind

[woeful anchor]

metal is good tho, just skillfully toss only risk coins

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[woeful anchor]

🤫

its just that easy

[pastel saffron]

if u have 5 battle, 100% attack

u do same battle, go trade node, get coupon you can easily get more than 100% on second no?

[nocturne cape]

I like it because it solves both damage and survival

[stray dove]

While Metal takes advantage of a LOT of coupon coin retossing?

[nocturne cape]

You dont get as high of an ATK stat as drum

[nocturne cape]

But usually its good enough to win

[stray dove]

although caps at 10

[nocturne cape]

Yeah but theres HP in it too

[stray dove]

Fry is better for survivability

if you need it

[nocturne cape]

Dont overlook HP i think its very important for IS6

[stray dove]

there's way too many times you need to tank hits

[nocturne cape]

Stuff like pathfider fight can translate HP into more resources

And most EMs have a survival check

[pastel saffron]

[nocturne cape]

Both are broken tho, and ill prob take drum more often than stir fry

[pastel saffron]

I love the coin which gives more def on every toss

[nocturne cape]

Just pointing out if you already know you have like 4 turmoils left

[sinful sparrow]

and i got -45% hp coin

damn

[nocturne cape]

Stir fry is an option

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

[nocturne cape]

🪢

[stray dove]

btw what do you consider IS6 boss relic miss? Turtle Statue that needs 3 risk coins to hit?

[sinful sparrow]

im starting to understand the knot

and i think cube is tossic 😢

[stray dove]

cause i read that and it felt like ass

[nocturne cape]

Turtle is worth drafting risks around

Its a win con ( sort of)

[sinful sparrow]

fill your entire coffer with risk coins

and play tourist

👍

[stray dove]

interesting if there's strategy based on spamming risk coins...

[nocturne cape]

The flower one suck tho

Kek

[stray dove]

i mean it would

since Flowers have no risk

[sonic sable]

Btw cube thanks for your guide. It helped a lot. My raidian is maxed now.

@sinful sparrow Urs helped a bit too

[nocturne cape]

[sonic sable]

I dont think tourist squad is that good

[nocturne cape]

I enjoy playing it

[stray dove]

btw a post in #cn-lounge pointed out that Gamiya's new skin does make her look like an unarmored TLK

[nocturne cape]

I think its decent enough

[steel relic]

does it

she's on a horse

the similarity is weak

[stray dove]

her sword is long af enough to be TLK's spear

horse floating moving

blue effects on sword

[woeful anchor]

tlk is also black

🗣️

[steel relic]

its head looks like an originium construct

Rocinante's had fins, as well as a fish tail instead of back legs and wings

[stray dove]

ok now we're going too hard on nitpicks

i get it

sigh

[steel relic]

nitpicks

[stray dove]

what else you gonna say?

[steel relic]

its surface level observation

[stray dove]

that Rocinante also doesn't have hind legs?

and has a fish tail?

[steel relic]

I've already said those

[stray dove]

that Amiya doesn't have a helmet?

[steel relic]

that one was covered when you said unarmoured

[stray dove]

either way

I just like the "pulling a TLK"

even if it has nothing to do with TLK

it's a nice coincidence

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2003459026621985003
might as well share the post

No Context Arknights (@NoContextArkn)

https://t.co/X6a1mtbDiy

vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 23, 2025, 1:33 PM

[tepid hamlet]

how to clear is6 ed2?

da feet one hitting my units

[burnt lantern]

Hey2, why i domt pay 30 ingots, but still get the Ink of Butterfly? And will this mean i will do ed 2?

[nocturne cape]

I came

[steel relic]

freak

[gaunt bay]

Gooner

What did they do to u cube

Youve become mpreg spamming gooner

🥀

[severe oasis]

cube help me how do i do ed3 prereq my leizi gets murdered and i -40

[stray dove]

Cube, who do you use if FO only gives you ground tiles? I'm guessing this is where the 2 Liberators of choice come from?

[nocturne cape]

I just do the left option with anyone really

[stray dove]

Also Cube, when do you visit WiW?

[nocturne cape]

I always have Amiya drafted

Class squads F2 non class squads usually f3 but maybe f4

[sinful sparrow]

omg amoya

[nocturne cape]

Who do you have

[severe oasis]

everyone

[nocturne cape]

[stray dove]

some here visit as early as F1 just cause they said they get more candles in specific nodes.
Also to get more mileage out of LP heals and buy relics early.
What's your opinion?

[severe oasis]

except for mizuki

[sinful sparrow]

isnt double liberator cheese this

what

[gaunt bay]

Can I have u

[nocturne cape]

Yeah just mlynar then

How did leizi die

[severe oasis]

i dont even get enough guard vouchers for one liberator 80% of the time

[severe oasis]

i activate skill and she dies

[sinful sparrow]

what are you even playing

gathering?

[severe oasis]

yes

[gaunt bay]

[nocturne cape]

Thats an option too

[stray dove]

any pros and cons to consider there?

as to why sweats don't do it?

[sinful sparrow]

my gauge is just
if i don’t have an e2 after F1 rob, i take F1 bosky to find a voucher for e2

else its f2

[severe oasis]

do you always rob f1 regardless of squad

[sinful sparrow]

yeah

[severe oasis]

hmmm

what do i need to rob it

[sinful sparrow]

i start raidian anyways
and raidian s1 humus cooks this slop alive

[severe oasis]

e1 raidian is enough?

[sinful sparrow]

(its rng whether you leak 1 or 11)

ye

[halcyon flame]

i got a temp execalter the other day and robbed shop with it

[severe oasis]

do you have a vid of f1 shop rob

[sinful sparrow]

IIRC ISC has a couple pinned?

[severe oasis]

thanks

[sinful sparrow]

in is6-help

[severe oasis]

honestly i shouldve checked there earlier i assumed there wouldnt be is6 resources yet

[sinful sparrow]

Wtf highroller

[stray dove]

can you sell me on recruiting Amiya more often?
Almost free on conserved voucher? Value of being both an arts fighter or harmacist/healer?

[hazy coral]

guys what’s ur favourite operator op songs?

shit wrong channel

[halcyon flame]

they work fast

[stray dove]

also Cube, i keep hearing F1 rob Cannot.
Is it worth doing in max diff?

[severe oasis]

where do i place him, bottom left to kill the 4 orbs there? or top to free up the top right ranged tiles

[nocturne cape]

Shes a great duo with raidian in bosky

Can serve as a healer after ed3

[halcyon flame]

^

[nocturne cape]

S2 heal ops out of death from ed3 relics

[severe oasis]

amiya medic regen alone outheals the hp loss long enough for it to go away

[nocturne cape]

Can serve as either Wang blocker (guard) or backup middle healer with medic S1

And you can reliably have access to her every game

Also medicmiya true damage helps you open on Triple Master

[stray dove]

noted

then it's a pleasure we got Gamiya skin

what about F1 Rob Cannot?

[nocturne cape]

I love it

Cute

[nocturne cape]

Medicmiya is very good

Her S2 can heal Raidian summons

[kind depot]

specialists? yes sIR

[nocturne cape]

E1 Raidian E1 Humus E1 amiya is a pretty safe rob

Hard to leak more than 4

[gritty whale]

Is Tragodias cat considered a summon for the relics that affect summons?

[halcyon flame]

cube

i cant stop highrolling

[nocturne cape]

🪢

[kind depot]

can marco grind the lower diffs?

[stray dove]

so rob Cannot F1, freeing you from ever visiting Cannot shop in latter floors and just use remaining ingots in WiW resource nodes?

[halcyon flame]

🤡 🏫 ✍️ 🫵 ⚔️

[nocturne cape]

Yep

Leisures or Tavern

[halcyon flame]

pepela

[stray dove]

i heard some use Plan just to remove useless blank coins even if there's nothing to upgrade

is that a good use of candle?

[nocturne cape]

Depends

I dont like Plan a lot

But ill enter it if the situation calls for it

[stray dove]

only a few coins can be upgraded

looks nice for some of them

[nocturne cape]

Yep

[gritty whale]

Is Tragodias cat considered a summon for the relics that affect summons?

[halcyon flame]

yes

[crimson nest]

Yes but the damage still come from trag

[steel relic]

yes but anything atk boosting is irrelevant because it uses his

[gritty whale]

Thank you

Oh damn

[crimson nest]

So the only thing that matters for cat is dp/rdp cut

[urban isle]

Did they ever fix ling bullshit?

Fuck floor 6 fight

What 0 aspd buff do to a man

[gaunt bay]

Every run in is6 feels like a highroll

Relic quality quite good im afraid

[halcyon flame]

i wish godblessed was better tbh

shoulda made the pre pr0omotes auto candlebearers

fr

[steel relic]

just hold the vouchers smh

[turbid yoke]

fuck this map, if you haven't draft an arts op you're just cooked

[urban isle]

6 DEFENDER TICKET

JUST KILL ME

[steel relic]

that sounds awesome though

[warm drum]

I found this image on Twitter
What the hell

[stray dove]

indeed

[urban isle]

Ling

Bottom text

[stray dove]

they really upped the quality of relics

even if they removed king and hands

[turbid yoke]

Hax

[warm drum]

Ling is really insane huh.

[urban isle]

WHY IS IT ALL DEFENDER VOUCHERS

[stray dove]

even the older relics got a nice makeover or increase in effect

[urban isle]

Ling rng is played sided

[stray dove]

luck is a skill issue

[urban isle]

Sooo

[burnt lantern]

How to do this one?

[urban isle]

Place op without candle on the flower

And pray

If they survive

You win

Else you get nothing

Also it a hp check

[stray dove]

whoever stands on Lotus tiles get candled if they survive the timer

whoever is on the Lotus tiles get zapped

constantly

so make sure someone's healing them

[urban isle]

And the zap one shot most

[turbid yoke]

[burnt lantern]

The one without candle is purestream and gummy

[stray dove]

they really made sure the 2 lotus tiles can't be covered by 1 medic....unless you have Kal

or Meyja S3

[turbid yoke]

Sad saria noises

[stray dove]

Guardians are a nice option there

but if you;'re having decent voucher luck

your defenders would only be Gummy and Hoshitter

Shu S3 would be good there

[turbid yoke]

If it almost one shot then 50% treshold heal prob won't save

[urban isle]

SOMEONE TAKE MY 6 DEFENDER TICKET PLEASE

I DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD ONE

I ONLY HAVE YU AND SHIT

NO SHU

[urban isle]

Gummy upscale

[stray dove]

here i am reminiscing of IS3 and IS2 respectively

those were quite the days

[urban isle]

I like the part
EVERY IS3 BOSS FLY

[stray dove]

Skadi doesn't

liar

same for Izumik

[urban isle]

I mean it skadi

Bitch get obliterated

[turbid yoke]

It skadon't

[sonic sable]

Horn looks angy

[urban isle]

Tank them

[stray dove]

tell that to D18 Skadi. Fucking tanky....

[urban isle]

Fucking tank them

[urban isle]

I like healing mudrock for izumik

[potent gulch]

Btw

[gaunt bay]

Square hole.

[potent gulch]

Can sui foot appear in dreamworld

[urban isle]

Yes

[potent gulch]

Damn i never seen this stage before

Make me almost died 5 leak

[quasi path]

IS6 ingot squad moment

I had Chalice this run btw

[potent gulch]

This relic save my ass from Yi fight lol

Giving more resistant to bomb

[worn lichen]

774 jeez

[quasi path]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-swire-swire-the-elegant-anime-cute-gif-1588732467837397356

rich af

[potent gulch]

Btw i met this stage alot

In encounter node

[frigid cargo]

So I'm struggling on ed3

Is the best strat is just aspd mech accord gg+lappland?

[potent gulch]

Lappy is enough i think

To destroy the orbs

[frigid cargo]

The usual meta ops doesn't do much when he spawn too much black thingy

[potent gulch]

Yato alt

As well

But need quick hand to retreat her

[frigid cargo]

Are you sure yato alt

Those things have like bazillion hp

[potent gulch]

Yea i saw yato alt can easily destroy those black orbs

In ed3 boss

[frigid cargo]

I guess we enough atk buff

Ah fuck last run I didn't have much atk relic

[pastel saffron]

@nocturne cape is she really M6 angle, should I get mod too? what level btw

[frigid cargo]

Ed3 is so far the most rng heavy then

[nocturne cape]

() means its not a must

[frigid cargo]

And no stable strat like lamp ingot

[nocturne cape]

Mainly E2 with mods

[pastel saffron]

what mod level

[potent gulch]

Oh btw during duck lord encounter

[hidden gust]

Does 'leftmost/rightmost vagary tile' include all the tiles on the left/right most column?

[potent gulch]

What does it mean with 1-5 battle

[pastel saffron]

why you didn't write mod there btw?

[potent gulch]

When i pick that option

[nocturne cape]

I didnt write mod for any

[frigid cargo]

Ed3 alone cost me 3 hours

[nocturne cape]

I assume at least mod1

If its E2

[potent gulch]

Getting the relic needed for ed3 is hard part

[stray dove]

wait....so it is possible to get the alter versions of the F3 bosses without having a different map same as IS5 but without the need of the encounter F3 upgrade?

cause i got the trio boss' alternate names in enemy boss profile

[frigid cargo]

And tangbao

[stray dove]

and i didn't fight them in a weird alter map

[frigid cargo]

I had a run with ingot squad 249 ingot no aspd relic or tangabo

MF

[pastel saffron]

yeah u only talk about rose salt mod

[potent gulch]

I got destroyed by grand duke alternate map

[frigid cargo]

What's that

[pastel saffron]

I see

[potent gulch]

There was bloody berserk spearthrower

In his stage

[frigid cargo]

Oh I haven't met it yet

I need to cool my head

[potent gulch]

And my op got destroyed when he pull them near the spear thrower

[odd spire]

how does the "prove yourself to the candleholders" fight work? First time I want to attempt it

[potent gulch]

Stand on flower

Survive

Need strong healer to keep them alive

[odd spire]

so I just need a lot of healing?

ah

well rip ig

[hearty plaza]

What does yi want from me

[pastel saffron]

you deploy ops on a tile that looks like a lotus flower, u need to survive for a certain time

healers are recommended, also I did it and there was an enemy too, you either block it and divert attention or heal

[odd spire]

is it impossible without a healer?

[potent gulch]

I forgot this 1 i think it want life or hope for more candle run

[hearty plaza]

Ah thanks

[stray dove]

I did it in F1 with just Geexu's barrier

[pastel saffron]

if ur using someone who can survive without needing healing no ig

[stray dove]

but it's Geexu

[pastel saffron]

Exia barrier yeah

[odd spire]

trying to do wisadel

[errant siren]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

BGM is...

[odd spire]

oh wait I have purestream e1

[potent gulch]

Wis cant tank those lightning bolt she need a good healer

[pastel saffron]

what diff and is that reed

[errant siren]

Yes.

[odd spire]

is e1 purestream enough?

[errant siren]

It's Reed.

[stray dove]

d9

[rotund copper]

First stage in f5 and I have gotten unneeded 7 vouchers

[potent gulch]

D9

[rough kindle]

that feeling when you get a pathfinder->bosky path on the 5th floor

[potent gulch]

Should have done that on d10 to unlock raidian module

[pastel saffron]

Peak bro liberator open, whoever said mon3tr bad in IS6 doesn't understand, she can heal both lane

[rotund copper]

Voucher is absolutely miserable

[errant siren]

Exactly why I picked her.

[potent gulch]

Monster has good aspd

And can stall boss abit

[stray dove]

To those who think they have not enough ops to play IS with...
Just imagine having this as your account when IS1 went up.

[errant siren]

I was afraid whole time before the boss that it's enough ASPD to actually survive

But I do have enough ASPD.

[pastel saffron]

same, mine was e1 tho coz I only got 1 voucher and even that was on f6, saria ftw

[errant siren]

[pastel saffron]

this good enough for IS1

[potent gulch]

There is 1 stage that is insanely hard to clear in sui dreamworld

[stray dove]

no

it only survived playing Easy mode

and it was unfun to recruit shit

you play the same mediocre team

over and over again

[potent gulch]

Lot of statue + there dragon tower

Then there a super tanky gopnik

Destroying rocks

[pastel saffron]

exia can clear most of it

there is a drone too right

Yeah I have done that shi

[potent gulch]

Nope

It just 3 dragon boss

[pastel saffron]

they come one by one

as they are unstoned

right

[potent gulch]

Ye they slowly get unstoned

It just there too many shit popping out from the dragonhead for exu to kill the bear

[burnt lantern]

Rob shop is6 is totally at different level! Whats the reward if we win, just take all the junk, or there is something else on top of it?

[rotund copper]

Another wrong voucher

[serene stirrup]

nothing

[rotund copper]

I want to crack my skull off

[serene stirrup]

It's better to just

rob at f1

[potent gulch]

I rarely visit his shop

[pastel saffron]

just take all reward, its not hard if you have raidain

[potent gulch]

Yea rob at f1

[rotund copper]

Is6 gotta have the worst voucher rng ever

I couldn't get anything done

[potent gulch]

U will never go to his shop anyway other than dreamworld

[serene stirrup]

the main thing is your path is strictly restricted by wonderlands and candles

[pastel saffron]

do yall rcmd castermiya s3m3 for IS?

[potent gulch]

No

Too slow

[storm folio]

How do I Archetto Start?

[potent gulch]

Since there alot of talisman

[burnt lantern]

Yea.. and its my first time getting ed 2, Sui foot appears when i robbing the shop

[potent gulch]

Sui foot is easily baited

[obsidian needle]

yeah just lick it

[storm folio]

I call dibs on Chongus

[stray dove]

Evil Chongus incoming in Ed5

[burnt lantern]

I panicked.. when i saw him appear at the bottom of the screen, i drop exu facing bottom! Appearently he is just peeking

[potent gulch]

Dunno if cannot can buff dat feet when it appear

[vagrant spade]

which one i should go? going for the zuo le thingy

[potent gulch]

Sui foot prioritize at btm of the map

[stray dove]

Tourist sounds fun

5 fucking coin tosses

[burnt lantern]

Bottom left is it?

[stray dove]

also doesn't Tourist make coin gambling easier?

[potent gulch]

Sui foot well slam on place with lot of ops, prefer the btm of the map

[vagrant spade]

guys

[pastel saffron]

prolly regulator one to have highest chance for guard voucher

[vagrant spade]

why guard voucher?

[pastel saffron]

I meant for IS as a whole, like IS5

[pastel saffron]

read the mission

[vagrant spade]

i thought prioritize would be tragodia > exu2 > wisadel > logos

[stray dove]

are we talking about YOUR operator list only

[steel relic]

the mission is to use Zuo Le s3 10x

[rotund copper]

my poorest run ever and only to get a voucher I needed at only the end of the game

[stray dove]

or in general?

[steel relic]

hard to do if you never manage to e2 him

[stray dove]

cause Logos ain't even close to top picks if you have everyone

[vagrant spade]

oooo right

[vagrant spade]

yeah

[worn lichen]

End1 ez u got this 🫡

[pastel saffron]

just have raidain and phantom and someone to kill enemies on left and u win

actually just having raidain is enuff

[rotund copper]

only like e2 raidian mon3tr and lappalter

[rotund copper]

I'm on d6

with like just 10 collectables and garbages

[pastel saffron]

yeah I have my d6 run

U just keep blocking the boss

and kill the rest

[worn lichen]

I j trag raidin to d15

Hopefully ur radian will be enough stall

[rotund copper]

I KNOW I'm just fucking pissed at how poor this run is

About 7-8 unwanted vouchers I have been getting on this run

I couldn't even e2 most of my ops

[potent gulch]

I hate the voucher doesnt want to give me any support ticket

So mamy freaking guard or defendee

[pastel saffron]

main thing is this, just keep blocking with raidain summon, have someone to kill left enemy, I had wisadel
https://youtu.be/dUJcTq0Yo14

also ceobe and mulberry was unnecessary idk why I bring I didnt even deploy

[pastel saffron]

peak IS

happens to the best of us

[stray dove]

Yi feeling like how I feel fighting Craz or Quilon. Absurdly few amounts of safe tiles to work with.

[potent gulch]

I tend to reroll my toss for the 60% atk coin on left or right area

xD

[stray dove]

he's still the easiest to fight though

[obsidian needle]

wait... you can manually explode the cat by retreating it!?

[potent gulch]

Yi can be deadly tho

[stray dove]

yes

[rotund copper]

I KNOW!!1!1!1!11!

[sonic sable]

Do u guys enter bosky every floor? I normalky skip f1 and f3

[muted cypress]

Pretty crazy special squad just lets you either save 5 hope or get exu alt along with e2 raidian

[stray dove]

thats why i said it forces me to be in the few safe tiles

[pastel saffron]

bro hates me

[stray dove]

because those Mr. Liangs explode hard

[potent gulch]

I only enter bosky when i have the chara needed to be able to clear most turmoil

[rotund copper]

I'm ending YOU here and NOW!!!

[potent gulch]

Mostly at f4 or f5

[pastel saffron]

yeah, if I have a lot of voucher tho I prefer pathfinder

[muted cypress]

And at least 1 candleguest vanguard

You know what turmoil stage needs them

[rotund copper]

Oh great it just got worse

[muted cypress]

(Or you can just use the 99 dp tongbao )

[sonic sable]

Ya in f2 u cant cleae mpst stages

[potent gulch]

Prep 30 ingot and 5+ candleholder?

If ur looking for different ending

[tame crescent]

Quick q, can Leizi alt get hit by ED1 boss explosions while in Take off?

[potent gulch]

Well duh

Coz liang is flying bomb

[worn lichen]

U no have surfer or canta btw

[tame crescent]

Dang, I just wanted to make sure. Thanks

[potent gulch]

This one was easy

[proven dagger]

i was expecting these to deplete the elemental bar much faster tbh

[rotund copper]

this one singular frog instakill all my ops

[pastel saffron]

deploy lapp when the stuff dies, u coild maybe deploy early if mon3tr is placed early while she healing, deploy gummy in front of blue box as well and pray

[rotund copper]

my lappalter is tweaking why the fuck did it manage to leave

[frigid cargo]

btw do we even have any hand on is6?

[pastel saffron]

oh my god how did u open

[potent gulch]

No

[frigid cargo]

i also havent seen any aspd relic from ingot

[errant siren]

Chalice is here tho.

[potent gulch]

As coin

[rotund copper]

frog everywhere

[errant siren]

[frigid cargo]

maybe i havent been lucky

[proven dagger]

there's also a aspd coin

[errant siren]

Relic too. It's very fucking rare.

[proven dagger]

aspd from ingot coin

3:2 ratio

[rotund copper]

opened with vanilla and use tragodia to lure frogs away

[pastel saffron]

u use wis to kill those enemy, trag and raidain then to start setup to keep yi inside the red box it comes out from

lapp would be placed after wis kill the enemy in front

[rotund copper]

dropped raidian for stall and lapp to kill 2 remaining frogs and somehow she didn't kill one

[pastel saffron]

prolly coz they have high res

wis would kill I think

[frigid cargo]

is there any squad that scale hard

[pastel saffron]

its ok tho next time win

[frigid cargo]

is it only the support ingot squad

[rotund copper]

15 guard vouchers on my way

[pastel saffron]

Mlynar, Leizi, Entel

ball

actually entel outside of hit count

😭

its ok go end2 if u get entel

[rotund copper]

everytime I get guard vouchers I don't have have enough hope or saving for other ops

[pastel saffron]

conserve them

[storm folio]

What does toss mean? Do i get the effect under it when i discard it?

[pastel saffron]

leizi and mlynar both good here

[rotund copper]

I have been getting mostly guard-specialist-medic-caster

it's shitsuck

[storm folio]

Is Snipernights Bad right now?

[frigid cargo]

no if you replace tossed coin, the effect disappear

[pastel saffron]

toss means its tossed, the coin says if its useless afyer tossing (it turns into dayan tongbao)

if its a coin like enemy hp -30% for this floor (turns into dangbao) then you can keep until next floor coz it will only be useless next floor

[rotund copper]

WHEN I conserve them not only pathfinder doesn't show up or showing up on the worst path ever

[pastel saffron]

only good sniper in IS6 is wisadel, Lemuen and Nara okish, someone said Nara is in a better spot than Lemon even

[vagrant spade]

which

[storm folio]

I wanna Try Archetto gaming is it good?

[sonic sable]

Nara prob good after module

[errant siren]

[pastel saffron]

if everything goes against you, you go against it

This what IS3 taught me, the tide is always against you

[errant siren]

Wis still carry

[frigid cargo]

i use it to solo hold left ed 2

[sonic sable]

S2?

[frigid cargo]

s3

[sonic sable]

She can hold?

[pastel saffron]

archetto pairs well with mon3tr but everyone says mon3tr is not that great in IS6 anyway

[rotund copper]

I have more fun in is3 despite being inflicted with all -50% debuff than fuming at atrocious is6 voucher rng

[vagrant spade]

on D1, so far lineup is e2 zuo le e1 exu2 and stewart

[potent gulch]

Turmoil breakthrough

There 1 black birb

Very tanky af

[storm folio]

Imma still gib it a try

[potent gulch]

Eat about 4 wis s3 to kill

[frigid cargo]

i got -45% enemy hp but it only for killing the soldier ware

but her s3 without much aspd can kill those kunais

[potent gulch]

The most dangerous thing is the ware that need arts dmg

[pastel saffron]

actually no, I really love IS3 but most vouchers are useless

who do I pick from guard? no one
who do I pick from caster? no one
who do I pick from defender? no one
who do I pick from supporter after Trag? No one really. Ange ig if u doing weedy but yeah

Most vouchers don't do anything in IS3, IS6 all vouchers give you someone valuable so its not bad, infact it makes runs less stale

is3 every run feels similar

[potent gulch]

Sigh that one i have no choice but to leak it

[frigid cargo]

does ed2 have it tho?

i kinda forgot

i do have raidian s2 summon on every lane

[rotund copper]

is3 ain't hard for me any nuker ops from any class does the work

[frigid cargo]

so maybe it died somewhere

[potent gulch]

Ed2 has some floating trashes as well

[frigid cargo]

ah yeah that

[potent gulch]

I do see some sharp edges

[carmine token]

Lost a run on f5 cuz I missretreated phantom2 :realmad:

[pastel saffron]

If ur using raidain IS6 is also kind of not that hard

raidain can clear most stages, later on a bit of help might be needed but yeah, you mostly want 1~3 solution ops for boss

[potent gulch]

She can lill fisherman tho

[proven dagger]

@cold fjord I did highmore radian start in anticipation of Feng Shui. And while it did work, I forgot the stage had crabs so their pottery leaked lmao

[potent gulch]

Need strong burst nuke

[frigid cargo]

but raidian summon is art

it can kill crab easily

[potent gulch]

The fisherman is pain in the butt to kill if you dont have wis

[paper notch]

s3 is. s2 isnt

[potent gulch]

Coz fisherman is invurneable when 8 tile surrounded by those talisman

[frigid cargo]

idk i usually use s3 on feng shui

havent tried s2

[potent gulch]

S2 is better on fengshui

More hits

[paper notch]

s2 feels like a pain the the ass to use on that stage. i dont think that's enough for the hitcount on its own so it still needs help

[frigid cargo]

you can also draft ethan you know the crab appears late...

click works

[potent gulch]

The annoying part is not having enough time to deploy ur ops and those block

[rotund copper]

I had no chance anyways the second I saw them giving the voucher I needed at the end before boss node when I don't have any hope left I knew it was rigged

[frigid cargo]

yeah its usually exu alt first deploy must

[proven dagger]

yeah s3 would've been a better choice here since I had highmore

[pastel saffron]

Just go with Nah Id win mentality, I personally feel like you messed up open but maybe its relic afterall

no use worrying about past, onto a new beginning it is

[proven dagger]

i just completely forgot the crabs existed lol

raidian s2 did jackshit here

[sonic sable]

Does not raidian herself do arts?

[potent gulch]

Feng shui has cause me alot of failed run

[proven dagger]

she does but she doesn't hit fast enough

[raw meadow]

Feng Shui has caused a lot of trauma for the past couple of days. I have actually started to use "Flexible Deployment" start just to recruit Ethan from the beginning

[potent gulch]

When i dont have the ops i need

[frigid cargo]

she has slow aspd...

[sonic sable]

S2 handles most the stage idk why use s3 there

[proven dagger]

highmore

[rotund copper]

MAYBE I would haven't lost if there wasn't a boss stage disguised as normal combat node

[proven dagger]

swept the adds

so s3 would be better here

since they can deal with the porcelain cups

[pastel saffron]

oh free lol

[sonic sable]

Highmore alone can keep up?

[pastel saffron]

I got the emergency once

[proven dagger]

yeah

[pastel saffron]

I was so proyd to do it leakless

[frigid cargo]

im gonna try ed3 again

[proven dagger]

highmore deletes most of the summons

[pastel saffron]

emergency has increased move speed

[rotund copper]

It's not even about Free it's absurd at how many mobs it rushed me with

[potent gulch]

Lost once on this stage

[rotund copper]

• spike

[proven dagger]

pluma would be better

but I have s2 instead of s1 raised on her

although s2 might work

[potent gulch]

I think coz there was a gourd with spike

[proven dagger]

I'd have to find a cycle

[potent gulch]

That killed my run

[sonic sable]

Also there is a hole

[proven dagger]

yup

drafting a shifter may be a good idea I wanna try

[agile hornet]

I unknowingly got this pathfinder thing called clarity

Any tips before I go in

[proven dagger]

maybe I could try drafting Cliffheart

[sonic sable]

Mizuki

[potent gulch]

Time consuming run

[sonic sable]

[proven dagger]

i was thinking Cliffheart specifically because her stun is useful on other stages too

[rotund copper]

😭

[proven dagger]

like the f3 geisha lady

[frigid cargo]

nah this is the shittiest wonderland battle

f i always forgot to draft defender for it

so i just avoid it

[potent gulch]

If i didnt have a defender i would have never beaten that stage

[frigid cargo]

yeah

the truck bottom suprises me first

[rotund copper]

@pastel saffron oh yeah my wonderland nodes were all locked behind turmoil nodes that I couldn't do anything in that run too

[agile hornet]

Any help is appreciated

[rotund copper]

I couldn't progress on it as game also don't allow me to get my op to become candleguest

[frigid cargo]

i use mizuki

to make some space

also wisadel

need some relic though or good tongbao

[pastel saffron]

Sometimes I get wonderland where combat is at end and sometimes early and I hate it, nowadays I take wonderland and then immediately exit and only enter at f3 or f4 when I am ready so I avoid wasting any and every candle, plus u have more ingots and stuff anyway, better doubt node rewards

unless u have raidain e2 very early, avoid bosky

[frigid cargo]

maybe degen to make space then qiubai

then exia alt

then follow

[potent gulch]

When goin for ed3 i kinda like the -40% sp cost + auto activate skill

[frigid cargo]

degen on red box

[agile hornet]

Ive no idea what spawns where

[rotund copper]

My doubts nodes are locked with 4 yanese ops

[agile hornet]

First time getting this map

I got bloodbath so guards on crack

And yea sp -40 coin

[frigid cargo]

yeah just degen qiubai then leizi then exu

[agile hornet]

Do I need to be aware of any surprises

[frigid cargo]

2 boss in mid

[valid matrix]

Screaming

[agile hornet]

Any gimmicks?

[frigid cargo]

mid stage

2 of the trio statue boss

[potent gulch]

All i know is that u need a good ops with good hit count

[pastel saffron]

ur way more likely to have 4 yan at f3

if u do trag start u alr have 2 yan anyway

[agile hornet]

Ohh so just the statue bosses

?

[potent gulch]

Those talisman are freakinf annoting

[frigid cargo]

btw mizuki just cheese those bosses

yeah

[sonic sable]

Leizi and degen on the tile above ajd below red box. Kill all the swordsnan. Then drop ur range units and kill the minibosses

[frigid cargo]

they cant move

its very funny

[sonic sable]

How mizuki cheese?

[brisk forge]

a15 beat my ass, I can clear a14 easy but 15 suddenly have difficulty spike

[agile hornet]

Id draft mizuki but specialist vouchers aint dropping

[rotund copper]

It was both turmoils node and doubt nodes literally softlocked my whole wonderland from the start at first floor

[frigid cargo]

pull the boss

so they stuck in one place

but need some aspd

[sonic sable]

He has enough pyll force?

[rough kindle]

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/

[rotund copper]

Is modules

[pastel saffron]

bro going wonderland at 1f 😭😭 never do that again, u lit halt ur progress by wasting candles

if u dont have much good candle light ops, dont enter

[sonic sable]

Uhh

[potent gulch]

I wonder who design fisherman

Suddenly reposition ur tank and cause leak on blue box

[frigid cargo]

im gonna try the mech accord for ed3 maybe...

and the yato advice

[sonic sable]

Do u guys think maxxing raidian misdions is very hard for casual players?

[brisk forge]

no

[sonic sable]

Yato slaps ed3

[sonic sable]

We should ask in #arknights lol

[potent gulch]

Does leaving the dreamworld consume all my remaining candle?

[brisk forge]

everyone should be running a10 by default for 50% score bonus

[sonic sable]

Disagree. Hardest is d2 clear to unlock raidian

[proven dagger]

how do you guys deal with the black dragon without brute force

on f3

[rotund copper]

Where do the game save my candles?

[sonic sable]

Which black drshon?

[rotund copper]

is there any indicator

[proven dagger]

triple boss one

[sonic sable]

Oh

[proven dagger]

the black dragon

[sonic sable]

Well for the first one u need good dps otherwise u will leak

[cloud cliff]

ok so i regret taking ink of butterfly shit. there dragon killing me. how do i get rid of it?

[proven dagger]

i was wondering if there was a way to stall him

[sonic sable]

Leizi on the origium tilr

[frigid cargo]

so far i only use brute force

[sonic sable]

Plus raidian s2

[pastel saffron]

they are always saved, it says enter sui world or not enter, u click not enter and ur candle are saved

if u enter and then leave then they will be gone

[brisk forge]

the triple boss, the 1st is so tanky because there's a barrel guy mitigation

[proven dagger]

without brute force I nean

[potent gulch]

Does leaving the dreamworld early consume all my candle?

[proven dagger]

the 1st guy is tanky even without the barrel guy

[sonic sable]

Yes

[brisk forge]

noway

[frigid cargo]

yeah

[proven dagger]

he has a lot of HP

def and res is kinda low

but he hits hard

[sonic sable]

Its ok to leak him too

[rotund copper]

🫃

[sonic sable]

Only 3 lp

[potent gulch]

Gopnik in dreamworld was insanely tanky

[proven dagger]

yeah leaking him might just be the best idea

[sonic sable]

I like how at low d leaking is so valid lol

[proven dagger]

it's valid at high D too

[potent gulch]

The one with 3 dragon statue boss

[sonic sable]

Will u be able to get enough lp there,m

[proven dagger]

yeah

is6 gives you shields like costco free samples

[sonic sable]

I will push 15 further next month

[pastel saffron]

u can do this, then skip even f2 wonderland if ur not ready, just save f2 candles, and then enter f3

u can even skip f3 but I don't rcmd that

[sonic sable]

Raidian is maxxed skill tree rewards complete

So rest now

[proven dagger]

nice nice

i found ending 3 easier than 1

[sonic sable]

It is

But the f6 stages r really hard

[potent gulch]

Funny how special squad give u max raidian with all her module unlocked

[sonic sable]

Garrison

[proven dagger]

getting to ed3 is harder than actually doing ed3

fitting

[potent gulch]

Right?

[proven dagger]

the one pathfinder stage is like

wtf

[sonic sable]

Whst u need in ed3 is a long range healer

[proven dagger]

Also it took me until d7 to find out the regular mooks

have 13000 base hp

on d0

[sonic sable]

Not clearable almpst without grounf units or wis

[proven dagger]

so by d15 they have surprisingly high HP for a trash mob

🫃

[rotund copper]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-in-love-temptation-seduction-lego-lose-head-gif-2048820948858269210

[proven dagger]

yeah it's incredible

[potent gulch]

And some ppl clear d15 easily coz they got good relic

[rotund copper]

Supporter voucher once in a decade

[sonic sable]

Yato slaps there

Yato slaps there

[gritty whale]

Any tips for Ending 1 of IS6?? I can’t beat it for the life of me

[jovial quarry]

for specialist team you can use mizuki + ascalon/yato ig

[sonic sable]

I knew yato woupd age better than texas