is-station

[floral mist]

(If there's a one that say turn to Dayan Tongbao, it means it can no longer be used), so if you see that note, change it

[nocturne cape]

good list to reference

[fringe sundial]

does i maintain +40 aspd for last boss or i roll 3 times to get more atk%?

[severe oasis]

why r like almost all the 4star yans specialists

[floral mist]

Exusiai Alter is a....Yanese????

[acoustic field]

yan
exu

this is still funny to me

[stray dove]

pick untossed dayan over tossed dayan?

[round trellis]

I think they just turn to blanks

[nocturne cape]

yes!

penguin logistics reasons

[acoustic field]

penguin logistics = yan

[stray dove]

oh so its better to replace tossed Dayan

since they're technically blanks next floor

[nocturne cape]

chalter and blaze alter might be bugged rn

[acoustic field]

always yeah

[nocturne cape]

dont they they are gonna count until a future QoL update

[chrome isle]

Wasn't that a feature added post is6 in china

[proven dagger]

I'm taking it

it's busted

[floral mist]

I mean, if you tossed a coin that has the Daiyan note, you need to change it once you enter a new floor

So yeah

[round trellis]

unless it's a risk coin that you don't want to chance, yeah

[nocturne cape]

yeah there's a small qol update before expansion 1

[round trellis]

I had a EN not reading moment and got the risk coin that froze my ops on deploy

[nocturne cape]

but kinda crazy that we didnt just straight up get those QoLs

[floral mist]

BEST COMBO FR

[round trellis]

[severe oasis]

is there like a list of op coins to look out for

[chrome isle]

remember dorothys vision

[chrome isle]

99 dp one 👍

[severe oasis]

well yes

[nocturne cape]

i listed a few of them in the guide

[severe oasis]

thanks goat

[floral mist]

the 55% Physical and Arts Dodge one

[nocturne cape]

but generally speaking any flower is worth getting

[floral mist]

Trust me, it's fucking busted

[chrome isle]

enemy hp reduction is pretty good risk i think

[severe oasis]

im guessing most risks arent worth it? or other way around

[agile hill]

guys is lazy s2 and s3 ariel

[floral mist]

Yeah

[severe oasis]

s2 yes, s3 iirc normal attacks can hit air but the charges cant so it sucks

[floral mist]

Most of it is the other one around

[chrome isle]

i think if you can't judge for yourself if it's helpful enough you probably shouldn't take it

but if you can then you can make a decision

[nocturne cape]

most of them are situational

[floral mist]

Tho reall tho, some coin like: Gain +20SP or -10SP every 10 seconds, it like pure RNG

[compact citrus]

Besides using radian and whoever, is there a particular squad I should try to get or use in is6?

[round trellis]

+30 ingots on adding to box, -10 when you toss it

those are the sorts you need to dump asap

[stray dove]

3 coupons for a vertical....yikes
I guess forced WiW visits does add more actions per run over the typical IS

[round trellis]

battles in sui dreamland give 2 coupons on clear

[floral mist]

And then there's this one coin:

[severe oasis]

is it ever worth entering the first wonderland when u have no candleguests

[stray dove]

art thou shitting me

[fringe sundial]

WAIT THE FKIN STEPFOOT STAYS EVEN ON LAST BOSS?

[chrome isle]

997 to go

[round trellis]

yep

[stray dove]

Can i conserve bought vouchers?

[chrome isle]

yeah

[fringe sundial]

im fkin cooked

[round trellis]

sui stepped on me in ending 1 boss

[stray dove]

nice

[floral mist]

Operators gain 2 SP every time they attack, but gain -1SP/s, it's literally disabling Auto recovery for 2x Offensive recovery

[stray dove]

the wording is recruit, but this does act as promotions as well, right?

[round trellis]

works or doesn't work with chetto?

[stray dove]

thanks for the confirmation

[floral mist]

Works with chetto, yes

[stray dove]

i'm guessing rerolling shop is a later skill tree or investment privelege

[uncut ore]

I need a good 5 star supporter besides scene.

[severe oasis]

@nocturne cape

[stray dove]

oh nice fucking buff. Includes HP.

[uncut ore]

which one of these is decent?

or worth lvling for IS?

[nocturne cape]

No

Save the steps

[acoustic field]

dude they're all lvl 1...

[uncut ore]

Yes. Hence why I am asking which is worth leveling for IS

[round trellis]

only quercus if you're desperate for healing

[nocturne cape]

Nine colored deer for yan

[round trellis]

and shamare for is3

[severe oasis]

so only go in when im able to do combats

[agile hill]

is it usually, save it to f2 and f4?

[round trellis]

Ngl this is a bit of a jump.

hp buff stacks to the talisman's buff too?

[stray dove]

awww no carryovers for preservation

[fringe sundial]

gg

[agile hill]

hardest part of is6 completed

[fringe sundial]

real shi

[severe oasis]

by this point you should have e2 raidian, and that upgrades the special squad to let u just start with a fully maxed one. so it kinda balances it out

[odd spire]

radian's main skill is s3?

[fringe sundial]

i heard i'd swap between s2/s3

generally s2 tho

[odd spire]

when to use which skill?

[round trellis]

About that…

[severe oasis]

this is so sad

[round trellis]

[severe oasis]

i got her e2 when i beat d3 but it was prob bc i died multiple times, wasnt just 3 straight wins

[round trellis]

yeah, was 3 straight wins, and apparently a sneeze away from e2

[sick mason]

Damn Yi bossfight is truly hard

[severe oasis]

tragodia cheeses it

[sick mason]

Those f-ing things coming from left and right man...

[round trellis]

if you don't have trag, tbh try using rose salt

[sick mason]

No wonder why he got hands compared to Fremont

[scenic saffron]

Right I should build rose salt too

[round trellis]

rose salt S2 when starting out lets you eat the explosions easily

[severe oasis]

haruka can survive them right

[round trellis]

sure; rose salt is psuedo 50% sanctuary

haruka can hit 60%

[severe oasis]

was wondering about s2

[sick mason]

Haruka isn't here yet tho

[nocturne cape]

Haruka hoshi kills Yi on D15 afk

[severe oasis]

incredible

[nocturne cape]

Its ok we have haruka hoshi at home

Rose salt Bassline

[round trellis]

the low budget alternative

[ionic kestrel]

can nearl work?

🙏

[severe oasis]

does this actually work

thats funny

[stray dove]

do candleholders get anything else outside of being able to fight in WiW or Ed3 boss?

[severe oasis]

ig they arent gonna be killing him tho

[nocturne cape]

Stalling is good enough

[nocturne cape]

Not sure

[round trellis]

pretty sure some relics buff them

[nocturne cape]

But bassline works because of his RES

[severe oasis]

yi phase1 is a enemy spawn killgate right

[nocturne cape]

yeah

Like 21 or smth

[odd spire]

why is it better to skip the first wiw node in f1?

[severe oasis]

also general pathing on all floors, do i just basically always go for wonderland no matter what?

[nocturne cape]

Uhh ill have to say it depends

[uncut ore]

interesting... never used reckoner before

[nocturne cape]

Because you have no candleguests

[severe oasis]

it took me a while to learn node prio for is4 and 5 so

[nocturne cape]

So you are greatly limited in terms of pathing

[odd spire]

oh I see

[round trellis]

you almost certainly lack the requirements to get the higher tier rewards on the doubt nodes, and lack enough lp to buy out shops and benefit from the full HP recovery nodes

[nocturne cape]

Cant take any turmoil

[round trellis]

and the fights will 100% gate you out

[nocturne cape]

And f1 bosky is like

2 nodes away from f2 bosky

So like why

[severe oasis]

whats an example of a path youd take over wonderland

[nocturne cape]

Shop on f3

If i have a good amount of ingots

[severe oasis]

specifically f3?

[nocturne cape]

Well theres no pathing decision on 2 and 4 so yeah

[stray dove]

......I'm taking it.
I'm guessing best way to use this is to throw it away before it's thrown a 4th time.

[nocturne cape]

I might also take faceoff + scout over bosky

It depends

[severe oasis]

wdym?

[nocturne cape]

You dont need to give up anything for wonderland

[round trellis]

throw away immediately, the +30 happens the moment you get it

[severe oasis]

i see

[stray dove]

if i get the opportunity, yeah

[odd spire]

would pathfinder over bosky be valid if you dont have enough candlelight ops?

[severe oasis]

besides that is it just as always prio emers

[nocturne cape]

Sure, if you have like 4 vouchers saved already

[stray dove]

ok so 2nd option allows us to keep the 5 candles, right?

[nocturne cape]

Yes

[stray dove]

so when is the best time to preserve candles? early on?

so that yu can have more candleholders?

[nocturne cape]

Early on yeah

[stray dove]

when doing candleholding preserved vouchers, do they all get used up at once?

[nocturne cape]

If i have a shitty squad on f2 i might save until f3 or even f4

[severe oasis]

i did hear smth about emers not being worth it but idt i had context

[nocturne cape]

You can choose how many you want to use

Unused ones are kept

[fringe sundial]

what is tactical prop btw?

[stray dove]

ah noted

the sp battery, the stun bomb, etc

[nocturne cape]

Fog machine, mines, mr boom etc

[fringe sundial]

oh these, ic

thanks

[stray dove]

the "usable" relics

[nocturne cape]

I feel like this relic is surprisingly decent

[severe oasis]

is there literally any reason at all to use a voucher immediately when u get anymore

[nocturne cape]

Wdym

[severe oasis]

as in not save it

[nocturne cape]

Ofc

[stray dove]

oh....so this is an amazing incentive to stockpile on risky coins?

[agile hill]

wtf is ed 1 boss phase 2, why doesn't he take damage for so long

[severe oasis]

like if someones already a candleguest for example and u arent tight on hope?

[nocturne cape]

For example if you are pathing bosky and the next pathfinder is far away

Yeah that too

[severe oasis]

what are the ways to make someone candleguest outside of pathfinder

[uncut ore]

bosky?

[proven dagger]

IVE FALLEN INTO DEBT

[stray dove]

best CG of Cannot so far

....or is it his ONLY CG?

[uncut ore]

You gonna get tentacled

[tacit hollow]

is fish wulfilled good in is6?

[stray dove]

last time i remember, Wish fulfilled only feels like shit in IS1-IS2

[severe oasis]

oh speaking of cannot when should u rob

[sudden cosmos]

this was a close one

[tacit hollow]

so its good then

[charred lake]

ok wtf is is6

[stray dove]

i doubt they're ever going to go back to no-choice-get-this-random-relic

[charred lake]

why is one ling enemy peon dealing 11 life points

what

[severe oasis]

was prob a bunch stacked together

[charred lake]

its just 1

[severe oasis]

[charred lake]

wtf

bro i think they want me to bring ethan

tried using the tragodia strat

[severe oasis]

ethan is good

[charred lake]

mb i should no always do combat so i dont get literally cooked

[fair hull]

is it worth it to go for is6 bosky early on or take more fights on normal nodes?

[stray dove]

this IS has a lot of furniture

[charred lake]

hes aura farming oh shit

[stray dove]

yeah.....ethan/mizuki/ascalon

pick your poison....or all of them

[charred lake]

guess ill wisadel it

and pray for tragodia spawn

[stray dove]

Cube said save the candles early so you can have a good candle team later

[dense vortex]

chat the new mechanics are complicated

[hearty dock]

Is6 best Ed for grinding?

[stray dove]

so this is as the wording states, you can only use this option once per run?

so more incentives on stockpiling vouchers

best case use is to reserve vouchers for promotion use for 1 hope E2ing of 6* and candle status

[stray dove]

Last time I heard, Ed1 is a joke against Trag and Ed2 is a pain in the ass

anything beyond that means going F6 and takes longer to grind.

[hearty dock]

So just spam ed1?

Tnks

[potent gulch]

What does candle do

[agile hill]

does radian promote to e2 based of simple leveling? like if it go pass e1 80, it just turn e2?

[severe oasis]

you click 1 button to promote her but basically yeah

and ofc you also need to beat d3

[stray dove]

wait so they created these mofos to punish high stockpile of ingots?

[uneven vapor]

anyone know if they gave us the patched version of is6?

[potent gulch]

How much % increase per ingot

[severe oasis]

wdym? you mean with expansion 1?

[stray dove]

they mean Sui Ling exploits

[pure talon]

Idk how to utilize the bosky's well lmao

[robust grail]

play more runs

[potent gulch]

I still clueless on is6 gimmick

[dense vortex]

wtf is the toss mechanic

[arctic panther]

the coins are thoughts/foldartals from previous is but you cant control them, 3 of them are used every time you enter a floor or sui’s conciousness(the bosky realm) and they’re reusable unless they say otherwise

the bosky realm requires candles to move around in (every movement uses 1 candle) and you get candles for free by just entering the realm

to actually fight in the realm you need to turn your ops into candleholders(the pink symbol) by either saving vouchers for the candleholder node(i forgot the name), going into a combat in the candleholder node or turning 1 op into a candleholder for free

did i miss anything

[dense vortex]

it gets a bit extra on the nodes outside the bosky that interact with tossing

[stray dove]

note to self....maybe an Ethan....

[arctic panther]

wdym

[dense vortex]

I don't get what they mean, hang on am just about to go to run 2

Leizi was not a good idea to bring as carry

[arctic panther]

if you’re talking about encounters or other nodes that let you toss coins, they act like the is3 die there

[pure talon]

Can this game please give me a sniper voucher omfg
STOP GIVING ME DEFENDERS

[arctic panther]

if you get coins that fulfill the conditions you win

[stray dove]

give me some defenders or medics pls...

heal-less so far

[unkempt lion]

How does the +150% true damage collectible work? If my op doesn't normally do true damage, does it transform all of my stats into true damage? Is it only with crits, if there's even crits in this game? I never understood it lol

[pure talon]

Game gave me another defender voucher im going to kill someone

[stray dove]

....sounds fun

[dense vortex]

it's crazy tho we get like 6 squad class selections

[stray dove]

I'm picking the worse option relics every time in my first run just to get them in the index

[dense vortex]

aight time to bring Exu2 carry

[dreamy stump]

Hi does anyone have windscoot and purestream built 😭

[winged kelp]

Are these guys randomized or something

[fringe sundial]

yea kinda

[hard steppe]

dif 8

[arctic panther]

why the FUCK did my wisadel get stepped on

[stray dove]

ok the constantly changing movement speed of enemies is making the furnitures hell.....and sometimes saving my ass

[fringe sundial]

what this encounter does?

[winged kelp]

Motherfaka I'm not familiar with tongbao and I accidentally use the auto sp converted to offensive Sp or something. And now Leizi just disabled forever.

[hard steppe]

a combat

[fringe sundial]

bruh how the hell do i even kill that shi

not even fair

[stray dove]

that map relies on fast nuke cycles

or....

Lazer

Lazer just hovers the entire time until you use skill

[hard steppe]

nice floor 1, guess ill die

[stray dove]

at least your Wish Fulfilled gamble is gonna be decent

[hard steppe]

[gaunt bay]

Has bro just been nolifing since it came out

I did like 1 run

😭

[hard steppe]

took some time to eat and thats about it

[gaunt bay]

Job application, now

[hard steppe]

its christmas skip work

[stray dove]

i guess just from squad alone and prior IS experiences, I've not died yet from my first run. In F4....but yeah no fucking good furniture killing still

[tacit hollow]

wat does interrogate do

[stray dove]

i mean

it's always about fighting Crying Thief

[cloud cliff]

what is6 best starter?

[stray dove]

the CG alone already states what the encounter's about

[gaunt bay]

Radian

Exu is great as well

[stray dove]

Raidian + your best 2 other classes based on the team you picked

the usual suspects of IS gods apply here

[cloud cliff]

oh my lord

[gaunt bay]

Radian just does radian things bruh

[cloud cliff]

ok imma just try usual wisadel gaming

[fringe sundial]

holy insane relic

[cloud cliff]

havent got her yet

[stray dove]

you can't "conserve voucher" on starting squad, right?

[gaunt bay]

Wis is lowkey whatever here

[cloud cliff]

yoo really? high def enemy?

[gaunt bay]

No

[cloud cliff]

they kill hand of rumbling?

[stray dove]

just that the enemies and encounters don't make her the god solution

[gaunt bay]

I mean thats not what made wis good anyways

But all hands are gone yes

[stray dove]

as if that mattered on how good Wis is in IS2-4

[gaunt bay]

As are king relics

[cloud cliff]

danm guess imma ling starter then

[gaunt bay]

Ling is turbo dogshit

[stray dove]

....lmao

[cloud cliff]

oh my lord

[wicked sandal]

is ed2 doable? diff1

[stray dove]

Ling starter. It's like we're back in IS2 without d15 update

[gaunt bay]

She was dogshit back in is2 and shes dogshit now

[cloud cliff]

who else should i start beside raidian 😭

[gaunt bay]

Exu

[wicked sandal]

trag or exu

[cloud cliff]

oh shit trag, how could i forgot my car

[wicked sandal]

should i just go ed1

tbf i accidentally took the butterfly

i didn’t know what it was

[proven dagger]

holy cutter

[tardy haven]

Who’s the best 4* guard for IS6? also is there some database I can filter for Yan operators

[agile hill]

guys what does piss tile even do

[wicked sandal]

read

[teal hedge]

does the fight in the candleholder nodes only turn ops into candleholders? i assume it cant promo them or anything right

[proven dagger]

gives buffs depending on your relics/coins

[wicked sandal]

it gives buff depending on coin

[dense vortex]

man it is so much harder to promote ops early game

[gaunt bay]

Windscoot or luoxiaohei

Diversity hire

[tardy haven]

thanks

[proven dagger]

lxh is good for this IS??

[agile hill]

so usually negligible?

[proven dagger]

eh, it can be strong

[gaunt bay]

Dei hire

🤫

[proven dagger]

fair enough

i like cutter in this IS

[eternal bear]

Is is6 permanent?

[proven dagger]

she scales well

[proven dagger]

yes

[gaunt bay]

All is are perm

Except the one that got removed 4 years ago obviously

[ionic kestrel]

kiwi as our main is6 helper
how doomed are we

[gaunt bay]

But they dont remove ises ever

[eternal bear]

Oh okay

[gaunt bay]

I am cube parrot

[eternal bear]

Guess ill do it on my own pace then

[gaunt bay]

[sinful sparrow]

ew k*wi

🥀

[ionic kestrel]

🥀

[gaunt bay]

:realmad:

I will give my updated takes once i actually have the time to grind to d15

Life too busy

🥹

For now you will get rehashed cubeslop

[ionic kestrel]

youre too busy eating

fatty

[gaunt bay]

I havent eaten shit all day dumbass

Im not birb

[ionic kestrel]

ok malnourished then!

[gaunt bay]

🥀

[proven dagger]

is the ling exploit still in the game?

i know they made her node rarer

but im not sure about the exploit itself if that got patched

[sonic sable]

Guys should i enter bosky each floor?

[agile hill]

bruh i swear, why can't they cut out the toss animation, it takes so long

[proven dagger]

dragslayer do you live in T Corp

[stray dove]

well it takes as long to get dice/or get premonitions in IS3/IS4, right?

[stray dove]

Cube said preserve candles early in the run since you technically have no candleholders or there's too few to fight for you

[hallow vale]

Trag is not mandatory in is6 right?

[stray dove]

really good for ending 1 i heard

not so much for ed2 and ed3 bosses

[sonic sable]

Ya so no enter f1

[stray dove]

but really nice for normal fights

[sonic sable]

[hallow vale]

Okk good, i dont have trag

[sonic sable]

Its all about the cat

[gaunt bay]

Trag is eh in is6

[winged kelp]

I think Trag is so good on IS6. Especially when a lot of stages is fking hit count based

[gaunt bay]

Especially pre expansion

Hes only good for ed1 so for 2+3 he does nothing for endings

[hallow vale]

Aight okk

[gaunt bay]

If ur just doing ed1 hes good

[ionic kestrel]

ngiballs

[stray dove]

i guess if you got supp voucher over spec voucher, sure

[dense vortex]

dammit, why'd the invitation to wine enemies have to be here, I can't even recruit Ethan/Ascalon

[stray dove]

I'm almost tempted to do Trag start just so I can recruit Ethan as a starter

well this was pre-Raidian....

so Raidian Ethan Beanstalk sound good

[agile hill]

but you don't do that many times in is3, in is6 you toss a lotr

[stray dove]

it feels that way since they re-toss every WiW visit yeah

[tardy haven]

for early vouchers do you usually keep or conserve?

[agile hill]

is concetration disorder risk op

its basically riskless

[acoustic field]

how do you do ending 2 again

[potent gulch]

Usually ppl spam ed1 until they unlock all the buffs no

[fringe sundial]

idk if theres only one node who triggers it but the "legend" node on Sui remnant procs a butterfly encounter

[proven dagger]

i love hte redeploy time tongbao

[fringe sundial]

you need to proc that encounter and kill the Sui body

(i think cuz i couldn't kill it last time)

[arctic panther]

how the fuck are you supposed to do that when literally everything else is trying to kill you

istg i couldnt hit it ONCE because every other enemy on the stage was guarding it like it was a world leader or smth

[fringe sundial]

i was able to do around 60%-70% of dmg on that tho, i think u just need to time ur ability procs to kill it

but i was not able to last one, maybe with more practice

[little trout]

What do the 3 unlockable squads do

[proven dagger]

creative mode

[final gale]

dumb question

so basically i should amass candles first, get some ops with candle

before entering bosky?

coz as i see it candles dictates how much i can move in bosky

[fickle jungle]

Ya

[severe oasis]

love when my 3 starting tongbao are all dayan tongbao

[final gale]

neat tnx

[pure talon]

Stop giving me defenders ffs

[severe oasis]

@nocturne cape does ed2 stop spawning enemies before sui is below 50% hp, i wanna know if im able to get it just above 50% then retreat everyone to reposition after

[tacit hollow]

wat do these do

[severe oasis]

i just tried it for first time and it was extremely chaotic to manage

[pure talon]

That's the ed2 item isn't it

[severe oasis]

thats ed2

[tacit hollow]

i see

[fickle jungle]

1st option guarantees ed2 for 30 ingots
2nd option is like option 1 but its chances to get ed2
3rd option get a relic

[torn hatch]

recommended skill for gummy is s1 yes?

[tacit hollow]

so i guess ink of butterfly is ed3?

[severe oasis]

yes s2 is bad

[torn hatch]

do I have to upgrade her skill for IS?

[tacit hollow]

gummy s2 is nvr used

[severe oasis]

e1 max should be fine but i think e2 s1m3 is worth if ur willing

[torn hatch]

is s1 mastery 7 enough?

[nocturne cape]

no killgate

[severe oasis]

its so chaotic lol

[stray dove]

Gummy S2 is so shit

[severe oasis]

probably

[stray dove]

if you're not planning to E2 Gummy, sounds fine

if you don't have the resources to burn, save it

[severe oasis]

but dont e2 her if ur not gonna put masteries

[stray dove]

for an old player like me

E2 40ing AT LEAST every 4*

and giving them all an M3 is easy

[severe oasis]

if i want to kill every enemy before dealing with sui do i have enough time to do that

or does it cut it too close

[torn hatch]

Ok.. Who do I build first for IS? gummy or ethan?

[nocturne cape]

you want to try to keep sui a bit higher than 50%

[stray dove]

Gummy is a healing blocker. Ethan can put in work as an E0 lvl 1 E1 for furniture killing

[nocturne cape]

otherwise you might run out of time if you have low relic power

[severe oasis]

i see, so get it just above 50%, kill everything else, then kill sui?

[stray dove]

what happens below 50%?
it starts a countdown on when it's leaving? Does it spawn more enemies?

[severe oasis]

retreats all your ops

[stray dove]

ah

how does Sui's feet rank in the most difficult Ed2 boss tierlist?

[severe oasis]

im guessing hardest lol

[fringe sundial]

tier 0 broken

[severe oasis]

well idk is5 2a with anasa karma is pretty fucking ass

[tame spire]

worth doing is6 even if you're pretty early in the game? I'm like early chapter 4. i'm just interested cause of the taiko event

[severe oasis]

and i havent tried d15 big sad lock

[severe oasis]

yeah you can do it, since you can just borrow a 6star carry at the start anyway. i think tragodia is what ppl are recommending

[fringe sundial]

only if u wanna have fun trying something diff, but mostly IS are for endgame players tho, you will have a hard time

[severe oasis]

and getting raidian would be worth it

[frigid cargo]

how to get ending 2?

[severe oasis]

legend node in wonderland, there will be one with a butterfly background and first option is something like -30 ingots to get a relic, thats ed2

then sui foot boss spawns in all stages until you get it under 50% hp, after that you can select the other option in f5 prophecy

[stray dove]

I heard same goes for BSL with a really bad reinforced+normal cursed relic combo and shit manuscript

[sonic sable]

Why we fighting feet

[alpine solar]

wtf is this stupid stage

[frigid cargo]

thanks

[stray dove]

OOC IS6 version

[alpine solar]

cant deploy ranged ops cause they just get tele'd into tiles and die

[tame spire]

what squad should i select

[severe oasis]

special squad is good

basically what ive been using

with guard/supporter/medic vouchers taking tragodia

[sonic sable]

Trag ws ps

[final gale]

wtf stage ends now even gopnik still alive???

[sonic sable]

?

[final gale]

[severe oasis]

yeah its kinda ass u need to kill the animal before the other enemies

[final gale]

this is outrageous

[severe oasis]

and they tend to be in unfavourable spots

[final gale]

mf is in the endless corner of map so i waited for him to walk to my dpses

[severe oasis]

i think thats only in bosky fights tho

[final gale]

and then stage clr just poped out

[tame spire]

tragedy wisadel what else?

[final gale]

i am indeed in bosky... so ig will take note to prio kill em

[ionic kestrel]

hello chat

[sonic sable]

Windscoot purestream

[ionic kestrel]

how hard is is6

[tame spire]

oh windscoot

[severe oasis]

you can only start with 1 6star just use tragodia and then see if you're able to borrow windscoot/purestream too, if not just fill guard/medic slots with whatever you have

[fringe sundial]

mid so far

[severe oasis]

apparently tragodia and the 5 reserve ops you get from special squad can just fucking win

[agile hill]

what does candle guest do beside being able to enter wonderland or being buffed by specific collectible?

[acoustic field]

wait which squad is the temp raidian squad

[severe oasis]

special squad

[fringe sundial]

special one

[cloud cairn]

Wrong react

[severe oasis]

lets them fight in wonderland and also required to fight in ed3 boss

[agile hill]

wdym also required to fight in ed 3 boss

[severe oasis]

only candleguests can enter ed3 boss stage

[agile hill]

oh ok

[final gale]

oh yeh, i heard u cant lose run in bosky

but i cant retrieve lose lp upon leaks yeh?

[severe oasis]

if you lose, you just get nothing and lose a candle

[agile hill]

thats why the boss fight felt so easy, they are gonna make it so you only fight with candle guest later right?

[severe oasis]

im PRETTY sure u dont lose lp but i might be wrong

[final gale]

so lp and shield come backs?

[cloud cairn]

You don't lose LP

Only a candle if you fail the battle

[final gale]

only candle... understood tnx

[alpine solar]

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/ i followed this guide

[fringe sundial]

nuh uh no one reading allat g

[alpine solar]

just you im afraid

on account of skill issue

[severe oasis]

what if i read it

what then

[stray dove]

did you understand it?

[cloud cairn]

I mean

[stray dove]

just testing out your reading comprehension

[cloud cairn]

I prefer just going in with nothing known

[stray dove]

then just ask questions once you give up learning yourself

[fringe sundial]

pointless since u can just bother the goats here for free info

B)

[gentle frost]

Is conserved vouchers the primary method for candle lighting ops or is there something better I'm missing so far?

[severe oasis]

basically what ive been doing. if i wanna know something i just come here and ping cube

[stray dove]

they have their limits for entertaining players that do not want to improve themselves.
and then the conversation devolves into MPREG

[tame spire]

what should i look for with medic?

[cloud cairn]

Purestream

Iirc

[severe oasis]

purestream, but if you cant find one its probably fine to just use whatever you have

[tame spire]

oh i mean guard

[severe oasis]

windscoot

or humus

windscoot better though

[tame spire]

not finding them

[cloud cairn]

Whats uh

Minimum of windscoot

[severe oasis]

i heard he can just be e0

[cloud cairn]

Like e240 sl7 or

Oh what

[crimson nest]

e1lv60 is fine

[stray dove]

just keep in mind....he ain't gonna naturally block

[severe oasis]

but like actually building him is recommended

[stray dove]

[severe oasis]

so he can like

do something

yknow

[crimson nest]

Just so you can actually use him

[stray dove]

i can just imagine someone having Windscoot as their only potential blocker

[crimson nest]

You recruit him bcs hes yan

[acoustic field]

dodge ignore

[crimson nest]

So you can pass the nodes in bosky

[acoustic field]

but yes he's yan

[little trout]

I can’t find her though?

[alpine solar]

why isnt cantabile yan

i have her yan-ese skin

[agile hill]

is the hardest part of ending one the invincibility time of the boss

[crimson nest]

You need the upgrade.

[alpine solar]

she needs to be e2 first

[cloud cairn]

Nope not really

[severe oasis]

you only get temp raidian from it when your OWN raidian reaches e2

[tame spire]

leizi good?

oh she's 6 star

[severe oasis]

which leizi

[tame spire]

tequila good?

[stray dove]

not every operator with Yanese skin IS a Yan....

[fringe sundial]

surfer good

[crimson nest]

No

[alpine solar]

if not yanese why yanese skin

[severe oasis]

do you have enough hope for a 5star? tragodia costs 6 so

4stars are free 5stars arent

so generalyl you start with 1 6star 2 4stars

[tame spire]

idk how many hope i got and i'm new enough i don't have humus

[crimson nest]

More the reason for yanese skin

[agile hill]

is 4 class squad better than 2 class?

[severe oasis]

apparently no

[tame spire]

or windscoot

4 star guards are frostleaf dobermann cutter jackie

[fringe sundial]

cutter my beloved

[severe oasis]

for now you can probably just use cutter lol i used her for my first few runs

[alpine solar]

do i need to e2 ps or ws for is6 high diff

[severe oasis]

like really the only important thing is tragodia

[torn hatch]

which skill for ethan?

[little trout]

Oh. Shit.

Thanks.

[severe oasis]

dont think its required but you probably should anyway

[alpine solar]

wdym by prolly should

[severe oasis]

it helps

its just nice to have

[alpine solar]

as in "they are very good for is6" or "good in general"

[little trout]

What do Tianshi Bureau, Sui Regulator, and Tourist squads do?

[torn hatch]

which skill for ethan?

for is

[acoustic field]

90% of the time 2, you do not need to upgrade skill 1 for it's uses

[alpine solar]

wdym nice to have, do players actually use windscoot to do damage

[severe oasis]

i do

but like

i could definitely get away with just

[agile hill]

why tf did they make is6 so grindy wtf

[torn hatch]

k thx

[severe oasis]

not doing that

[alpine solar]

i thought the whole point of ws and ps is just to fulfill the yan-op req

[severe oasis]

if you dont have the resources to do it dont bother

[gentle frost]

So is conserving recruitment vouchers the primary method to candle lighting or am I missing something?

[alpine solar]

there's an early upgrade

that lets you do a special battle

to candle light an op

without a voucher

[tame spire]

don't have purestream either perfumer myrrh gavial sussurro chestnut

[gentle frost]

Alr just making sure bc this is a pretty complex IS tbh

[tame spire]

which best

[fringe sundial]

purestream is the best for IS6

[tame spire]

don't got

and no one has her as a support

[alpine solar]

i have a feeling their account progression is so low that they're going to be asking this question for every class type

you can get purestream from recruitment fyi

[severe oasis]

yeah youll get her eventually

[fringe sundial]

i have no clue on which would the best other than that, sorry

[severe oasis]

perfumer is probably fine lol

[fringe sundial]

i been using gavial and she works like she always does

i'd say that most of the maps i did was more of multi hits and dmg gimmick than dmg from the monsters

so most of the healers should work as placeholders

[agile hill]

in most run, your coin is never full right?

[alpine solar]

only if your'e not using the bosky shops

cause all the shops have at least 1 coin, and some coins dont get turned into the generic nothing coin once they get flipped

[stray dove]

btw....how worth it is it to have high numbers of risk coins just for Wish gamble rare relic payoff?

[paper notch]

errrr

that's a non-factor

doesnt it sometimes ask for other types of coins as well

[stray dove]

oh so the time i saw it asking for a risk, is just randomized

nice to know

its really just gamble or seeing if your chances are high

[sinful sparrow]

Risk coins my goat

Very strong combat buffs

[stray dove]

...to the enemies

[alpine solar]

i mean what does it matter if the enemies have 25 aspd

if u have 50/50 coin flip dodges

[acoustic field]

get hit once and die

[alpine solar]

it's aspd, not damage

[fair hull]

what's the general strat for the stage with dusk on it?

[stray dove]

i had "fun" with the risk coin that alternates enemy's movement speed

it is fucking hellish for furniture

[flint token]

Dodge risk coin + dodge relic

[alpine solar]

yep

it all adds up

[flint token]

turn everyone into a vaporizer

[stray dove]

it is nice that there's a floor modifier that gives you dodge

at least makes those dodge relics actually useful

hell, i wonder how fun a run is if you get multiple dodge coins for high chance it triggers and you have dodge relic

[final gale]

recruitment before entering bosky also have -2 hope??

or its just light candle

[stray dove]

preserved vouchers have hope discount

no matter where you open them (of the 3 ways to do so)

[final gale]

ohhh thats neat.... i thought its only discounted in pathfinder node

[stray dove]

i think the point of preserved vouchers is to have a consistent way to setup candleholder status consistency

especially since it's such a major need for bosky fights and Ed3

[errant siren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-fire-sitting-edited-on-fire-fire-gif-17645117

[alpine solar]

so what is the strategy for this stage without any good ground ops

i had e2 kal and non e2 raidian temp

[final gale]

lmao the screen turn red for full risk tangboo???

[floral mist]

Yeah

You basically playing with fire

[stray dove]

who knew that my IS fatigue is just from being way too used to older IS mechanics and map knowledge

the not-knowing part of a fresh IS is fun

[alpine solar]

the knowing part of an IS run is even more fun

[stray dove]

depends

there is the specific grind of a completionist that tend to burn me out sometimes

[final gale]

uhhhh

[hard steppe]

dif 9 ending 2

[final gale]

this gives me ptsd

also... wdym... totally

[static quartz]

who should I prio raising between krooster and greyyter, gonna grind both is5 and is6

[stray dove]

IS5 = Greyyter

Krooster I only used her in IS3 ngl

[errant siren]

OOC!!!

[final gale]

[errant siren]

Shineeeeeeeeee

[stray dove]

wait for IS7 to also include the "favorites" of IS5

[final gale]

that laugh means its actually ooc but different flavor

[gleaming cedar]

is6 best started team?

hi jusan

[final gale]

i see the map and... it does look like ooc

[errant siren]

Tourist

Tree looking one

[final gale]

surely ill live in d0

[gleaming cedar]

k

[final gale]

surely

[errant siren]

+2 coins to play

[fringe sundial]

support squade, get that originium up cannot is staring at you

[agile hill]

bruh i swear, half the strength of radian came from exploiting usually unused resources more

[stray dove]

I'm still doing this blind unless i absorb the knowledge willingly shared here

so i don't even know what perks Raidian has

and i'd rather know it myself

[alpine solar]

her perk is making you fall in love with her

so cute

[stray dove]

I love the concept of her technology and application

plus a cheerful mom character coming from Azling is rare and welcome

[winged kelp]

Does Raidian even usable pre E2.

I tried it and it was disaster

[still heath]

the sui's foot targets the area with the most operators standing on it right?

does it also target the last deployed operator in that area

[severe oasis]

dude wtf is the ed3 pathfinder stage

fucking hell

[proven dagger]

im so close to exploring the whole thing lol

[stray dove]

if there's a tie, i can see that as a tiebreaker

[magic osprey]

It was suck

[compact citrus]

How do you know when to keep a voucher or use it right away?

[ruby sundial]

does this proc ONLY if i roll 3 risk coins in ONE go? or cumulative

[hardy radish]

nope the tiebreaker is bottom>left

[stray dove]

weird location priority but I'm guessing it wants that area to be prio'd due to the mob cluster

[hardy radish]

yeah in one go
so it is rare chance unless tourist

[stray dove]

whats the foot's range/splash?

[severe oasis]

3x3

[errant siren]

Resource Management.

[stray dove]

shit...so just 1 tile gap ain't enough

[errant siren]

[floral mist]

Well shit

[severe oasis]

the stomp after it comes down is global

[errant siren]

MANMADE CARNAVAL!!!

[hardy radish]

coding issues, when u run for loops it default checks in tile order

[stray dove]

typical hope econ/management

[compact citrus]

but is there a rule of thumb?

[stray dove]

yeah don't waste your fucking vouchers on 0 hope

[errant siren]

Open your third eye.

[floral mist]

Let's get this over with

[compact citrus]

is the cost of new recruits from pathfiner discointed?

[errant siren]

Yes.

-2 Hope cost.

FiveStar basically free.

SixStar costs 4 to get them.

Promote is free, to every rarity.

[flint token]

Promote still cost 1 hope iirc

[compact citrus]

there are times when I don't want to save up 3 medic vouchers

[flint token]

for 6 stars

[flint token]

Then just dont

[errant siren]

Oh, sorry yeh

[errant siren]

Then just buy an 4☆ op.

[flint token]

if you think 3 medic vouchers is excessive that’s because it is

[compact citrus]

that's after I used 2 as well

[final gale]

tf what is manmade carnival doing here???

and I thought only OOC make a comeback here

[gaunt bay]

They brought back ooc and manmade

Get bent

[final gale]

that addition of "totally" in ooc make me dont wanna open the node anymore

[stray dove]

wait for IS7 to have Elusive, Rhine Guardians, and other favorites of IS5

sooner or later we will have an IS just full of "fan favorite" maps

[agile hill]

for certain coin, is it like old fan?

[stray dove]

and it will become the ultimate flex/difficult tournament of choice

[proven dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFJ-fwMJYq4

gotta be the most vile clear ive done in IS

😭

[floral mist]

Is Scroll of scars supposedly the Ending 2 of IS6???

Or is it Ending 3???

[nocturne cape]

2

[severe oasis]

cube how live in ed3 pathfinder stage...

[nocturne cape]

Entelechia

[severe oasis]

No

dont make me.

i wont build her

[hardy radish]

do u guys remember what's the name of 3F

[nocturne cape]

Mlynar

[severe oasis]

i dont think ive had more than 1 run where i was able to getboth leizi and mlynar

[nocturne cape]

I mean you gotta have some good ground units

There are only 2 safe tiles on that map

[severe oasis]

i had leizi but i exploded anyway

everything just leaked as soon as her skill ended

[nocturne cape]

So the idea is to use Leizi to clear way for your high ground operators

[severe oasis]

not to kill the bosses?

[nocturne cape]

Leizi’s mission is to clear out upper right or left side

No

[severe oasis]

ohhhh like

she clears the orbs

so i can put exu down

!!

[nocturne cape]

Without highground it will be VERY hard

Yes

Exu Wis whoever you got

[severe oasis]

i realized that
i tried to deploy exu when it started and she instnalty died
i looked at my operators and my only ground dps was leizi

[nocturne cape]

That was me 4 months ago

Also malding

So yeah that stage isnt exactly easy to learn

[severe oasis]

i couldnt tell if i was just actually stupid or if its a hard stage

[nocturne cape]

Uhh if you want to cheat the stage Ascalon and Mizuki is a 2 op relicless

[severe oasis]

mizuki will be in next kernel locating 🙏 please 🙏

[crimson nest]

How much dmg is the lightning

[nocturne cape]

Not much

[crimson nest]

Nice

[nocturne cape]

WAIT

[gaunt bay]

U had ur chance to buy him

[nocturne cape]

Can you take the coin and test something for me

Since they kept all the bugs on release from CN

[severe oasis]

kiwi i was like 14 certs short

[gaunt bay]

Shouldve saved harder smh

[nocturne cape]

if you roll that coin you might be able to put an op there as stage is about to finish and cheat the candleguest

[gaunt bay]

If theres someone i want i always keep 180 on hand

[nocturne cape]

They patched it later but it was a thing on release for that coin

[crimson nest]

Just deploy ops when stage about to end?

[nocturne cape]

Yeah, on the lightning tile

So you dont have to go through the lightning process

[severe oasis]

man i love raidian

shes so fun

[gaunt bay]

My radian still unbuilt

Rose grind my is6 for me

[crimson nest]

????? Is this worth

[gaunt bay]

Im too busy

🥹

[stray dove]

looks like recreation

[nocturne cape]

No

[errant siren]

Relic (random iirc)

[nocturne cape]

You get a relic

[stray dove]

if something removes my resources for RNG

[errant siren]

No.

[stray dove]

it will always feel like recreational

[errant siren]

You play over RNG

Sorry

We're back to IS3

Except we don't have that Rejections

[stray dove]

hope recreational in IS2's pretty powerful

[errant siren]

So it's doable.

[errant siren]

I love hamsters, yes.

-2 and guaranteed output

Usually relic

[floral mist]

Huge Mon3tr buff

[sinful sparrow]

ED3 relic:

[stray dove]

fucking finally it's not a completely dead relic for non-off/def skills

especially for the last tier of off/def SP relic

[frosty hawk]

does this affect the sui stomp that shows up in stages?

[stray dove]

oh yeah....it might be coded as a different damage type

so I'm curious too if it applies to the first stomp

[velvet ermine]

is scroll of scars ending 2?

[shrewd pier]

do the suiblings count as yan operators?

[charred lake]

guys should i give pay back cannot

[frosty hawk]

it didn't do anything

[stray dove]

yeah i can imagine the stomps are coded as something else

[frosty hawk]

was hoping it negated the stomp, oh well

[stray dove]

and isn't the typical "enemy attack" interaction

[dense vortex]

oh gawd wish fulfilled has gambling again

[stray dove]

at least you can choose not to

btw what happens if you didn't hit the condition? just a random non-rare relic get?

[dense vortex]

what kinda gacha gamer would I be if I don't choose it tho

[dense vortex]

you get 8 ingots

[stray dove]

ah....such a huge gamble

i guess that's better if the 2 other choices were complete trash

[winged kelp]

What's the strat here btw.

[errant siren]

I know that map and I pretty sure you're fucked regardless.

[winged kelp]

I lost here previous run.
And this one too apparently

[errant siren]

I didn't play, but I already know what's inside.

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flower-cat-flower-cat-dancing-dancing-gif-27431637

[arctic panther]

pray

[chrome tangle]

wtf

am i looking at

[stray dove]

a foot

of Bestial Sui

[chrome tangle]

5 big toes 🫦

does this do anything other than spawn feet

in all my battles

[stray dove]

yeah now you have to actually kill it

which is its own pain in the ass

[chrome tangle]

what about beyond that

[severe oasis]

after that you get ed2

[stray dove]

.....good luck

[chrome tangle]

oh er

[stray dove]

it's just naturally difficult to fight

[severe oasis]

well you have to select the ed2 option in f5 prophecy so u could still do ed1, but this unlocks ed2

[chrome tangle]

i might be a lil fked with no medic

[arctic panther]

speaking of ed2 whats targetting logic on the hand

aka how do i keep his greasy ass fingers away from exu and wisadel without sacrificing people blocking the blue boxes

[severe oasis]

most operators connected to eachother > last deployed

leave a 1 tile gap between the operators you dont want it to target

[forest flicker]

Windscoot good at E1 or should I E2 him?

[severe oasis]

hes fine at e1

[forest flicker]

neat

[arctic panther]

and the area of the death zone is 3x3 right?

[severe oasis]

usually i bait it by putting 2 raidian summons together, or something like gravel+agent or gravel+summon

[severe oasis]

yep and then after that it stomps a few times doing thousands of global phys damage

[desert brook]

is it normal to have like barely any relics in is6 or am i just bad

[stray dove]

it's not exactly as exploitable as IS5...

in terms of relic count

[arctic panther]

but you still should have quite a few relics

[severe oasis]

earlier i had a run where i got to f5 with only 3 relics and then got like 20 relics from the wonderland node thre. i wonder if thats where you get most of them

[desert brook]

huh i see

[nocturne cape]

Most connected > bottom most > left most > last deployed

[desert brook]

yeah im on f3 and i have 2 relics

[severe oasis]

lmao wtf

[arctic panther]

it is where you get most of them

[chrome tangle]

bro this ed2 map

looks atrocious

[arctic panther]

those nodes(idk what they’re called) that give collectibles when fulfilled-

[severe oasis]

i thought it was last deployed but at the same time i was wondering earlier where exactly i fucked up bc i wasnt able to bait it with gravel

[arctic panther]

it is

[severe oasis]

that makes so much more sense now

[arctic panther]

and ji both make up 90% of my relics most of the time

[dim cloak]

Relics seem a bit less likely to be obtained, though if you can get lucky with the coins you can easily still clear.

[stray dove]

like i said, it's just naturally difficult to fight in with those feet

[frigid cargo]

where is ending 2 located in the wanderland?

is it random

or is it in corner or something

[chrome tangle]

bro i died cause of left side

[arctic panther]

i died because i had 2 ground units total and both of them were being used to bait the hand

[severe oasis]

ive just been ignoring it and leaking them all because if u kill them they split up and u leak even more

[sinful sparrow]

if u cant kill then just let it go

killing sharpedge is gonna be a pain :joyplush:

[frigid cargo]

do you get wanderland chance if you dont go into wanderland node on that level?

[stray dove]

yeah there's now the consideration of .....maybe not kill the guys that release furniture

[arctic panther]

what

[chrome tangle]

pretty neat stage

[stray dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1194876316156174408/1320615354648760320/00fec94e716f00917b9f6d77414c584e398933914.gif?=

most of IS6 is this

[chrome tangle]

I feel like Im just hoarding tickets

[final gale]

will entel prevent this to happen??? 🥹

[arctic panther]

im skipping so many tickets still

im allergic to any ground drafts apparently

[chrome tangle]

I just leave F1 with no E2's

and no additional ops

[arctic panther]

https://tenor.com/view/wisadel-waltuh-w-walter-arknights-gif-3812010922944326354

[chrome tangle]

cause i want to make candlebearers

[heavy pumice]

oh a lot of furniture mob
i can see why leizi2 shine here

[chrome tangle]

furniture = wis will shine

[final gale]

:lethimcook:

[arctic panther]

furniture cant exist if it goes boom

[stray dove]

for me it's more like.....Ethan/Ascalon/Mizuki

[heavy pumice]

wis....🚮

[arctic panther]

i need to build my ethan

[heavy pumice]

it literally kill the fun doing IS :ya:

[stray dove]

As long as no one attacks Ethan

just use his S1

thats it

no need to raise him

[final gale]

this people dont have reaper vampire lady

[chrome tangle]

i forgot ethan even was an op

i dont even think i have him e1'd

[arctic panther]

nvm specialist chips arent available rn

[stray dove]

Entel ain't even seeing appearances unless you're a GVG cultist

[heavy pumice]

ethan, ascalon, you name it
or leizi s3 that capable do 160x hit

[arctic panther]

he’s really good for stalling in is5(and i assume the rest of them too)

[chrome tangle]

never bothered with IS5

[latent radish]

Guardians make their own fate.

And with that, my time with IS5 is complete.

[chrome tangle]

😪

[arctic panther]

now do is6

[frigid cargo]

is the best opener still wisadel?

[latent radish]

Yep

[arctic panther]

best opener is always wisadel

[latent radish]

Oh I will in due time.

[arctic panther]

until wisadel alter comes out atleast

[heavy pumice]

lol
i want to be mean but... nah

[final gale]

i was told a mommy that spawn funny fish that pewpew is the best opener atm

[severe oasis]

no, in is6 the best opener is raidian

[arctic panther]

just pick special squad

[heavy pumice]

guess i will do the usual
first class squad until unlock d15
and start do weird shit after

[frigid cargo]

what is gift of accord

how does it work

[arctic panther]

a what

[frigid cargo]

what is coffer

[arctic panther]

the place where you store your coins

[frigid cargo]

does the coin go into coffer every floor

or after tossed

[stray dove]

there are temps

but you replace those for better ones

so those coins have potential to be rerolled

[arctic panther]

it stays in the coffee until you replace it

[stray dove]

the temps become blanks after being used once

[arctic panther]

even if you toss it at the start of the floor

[desert wing]

so what 5* casters are worth building for is6? only person i can think of is kjera

[heavy pumice]

and actual coin flip :ya:

[stray dove]

....casters

yeah no

[heavy pumice]

idk, i never draft caster in my 5* only run in any IS

[stray dove]

casters have always had a pretty weird or unfortunate spot in ISs

[frigid cargo]

kroos or that lightning boy

which is better

[heavy pumice]

if have to castermiya is my first choice

[stray dove]

i already said Greyyter

if you're gonna do IS5

Krooster I only used in IS3

[heavy pumice]

kroos2 better for IS3
grey2 for IS5

[stray dove]

as one of the solutions to remove enemies from flying