is-station

[gaunt lichen]

ribs

fibs twink ribs

[silver mulch]

my experience with 3* operators

[formal zephyr]

pretty much

on everybody's soul we hate catapult

[silver mulch]

cardigan doesn't die

[full plinth]

yeah fuck catapult

[silver mulch]

midnight is a lord

lord = good

does arts damage

fang is fang

[silver mulch]

tbh i think it's rly just the game thinking of aoe damage too highly

and giving so many drawbacks to aoe damage

[silver mulch]

[formal zephyr]

we should execute catapult

[silver mulch]

i fixed it

@formal zephyr @full plinth

[full plinth]

peak

[silver mulch]

i will say though

fang's probably

at the very top of decent pick

[formal zephyr]

peak

[silver mulch]

she's a good 2 blocker and das abt it

[formal zephyr]

yeah

[silver mulch]

but blockers r valuable early game

hmmmge

goats are units i can use up until the fifth or sixth floor (lmao)

[formal zephyr]

yeah

[silver mulch]

i should do four stars

[chrome tangle]

Id say fang is kinda shit

[silver mulch]

i'd agree

but when ur other options r vanilla or plume

shes kinda the best option

actually

no

yato exists

[chrome tangle]

yato

[silver mulch]

[chrome tangle]

exactly!

[low vortex]

rather follow this

[final gale]

yeh fuck catapult

[silver mulch]

elite 4* temporary recruitment

for IS

[hardy moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/686610890296262750/1394547744089313472/oneconvictillion.gif

True conviction

[silver mulch]

icl i put conviction in LMAO for a reason different from gitano and frostleaf's

[silver mulch]

what are ur thoughts other than conviction lmao

[low vortex]

temporary recruitment?

4* should be ranked off IS5 / 6 use

this is way more applicable

[silver mulch]

i've been inactive for two years sadge

[low vortex]

albiet, its using harsh teminology

unless you mean some sort of 4* only niche

[silver mulch]

mmmm no it was a generally casual list of like

how useful they were to me

while i played is

[low vortex]

i see gotcha

well this is try hards list on whats used and not

mostly IS5 on hardest config

[silver mulch]

i don't remember the second girl's name

[low vortex]

caper?

[silver mulch]

but holy crap her boomerang

yeah caper

really fun to use

pretty good dps for a 4*

[low vortex]

yeah most highly ranked 4* on the above list was for util

not 4* only so they are for specific or general good util
your 6* are the damage carries ofc

[silver mulch]

glad to see my friends gummy and ethan up top

they're quite good for 4*

ethan's just free extra damage

and gunmy's a mini nearl

[low vortex]

uhhh ethan damage

[silver mulch]

[low vortex]

[silver mulch]

well, bind spam as well i guess

[low vortex]

that is the main purpose

🥹

[silver mulch]

but he did help against mobs

i am not a hardcore gamer

i am not sweaty

[low vortex]

fair enuff

[silver mulch]

purestream's rly nice for a 4* medic

however her usage is downgraded for me
cuz i use japanese voice

and god

god

[low vortex]

[silver mulch]

i will say its kinda insane how chestnut's still so hilariously irrelevant

even with is

[low vortex]

yeah even with IS5 gooping you everywhere

necrosis this necrosis that, chestnuts dead

[silver mulch]

what are ur thoughts on mulberry

[low vortex]

ED4/5 don't even have necrosis

[silver mulch]

[low vortex]

garbage everywhere

all the wandering medics minus Eyja2 are garbage everywhere

[silver mulch]

:(

[low vortex]

the only time a player uses them is when copying some low end guide for a stage

when usually its not necessary with using better units they already have

[silver mulch]

me with a maxed mulberry and e2lv60 eyja2

oops

[low vortex]

eyja2 is very nice to have

albiet hope cost is steeeep

[silver mulch]

thats why i like mulberry

cuz her hope cost is half

i will say tho

i do like whisperain more

[low vortex]

uh well Eyja2 isn't a waste of hope because she can heal properly

Whisperain also can't heal

[silver mulch]

is 5/6 max difficulty sounds horribly difficult

if whisperain can't heal

https://tenor.com/view/hayao-miyazaki-goblin-mode-gif-9386131877946561792

[paper notch]

how tryhard can they truly be if they recommend myrtle e2

[silver mulch]

true

[wild geyser]

Why leizi is better than mlynar in is6?

[silver mulch]

woman status /j

[wild geyser]

What

[fickle jungle]

I woudnt say shes better
More so the same

[cold fjord]

she is better

[jade junco]

because airborne

[errant siren]

Being Yan

(It needs for some Encounters that counts Chinese you bring into run)

[low vortex]

Yan and highly applicable S3 in some cramped maps, so flexible

[boreal island]

If you have enough lp you don't need Yan yes? Or it's rng?

[wild geyser]

That sounds funny requirement

[boreal island]

Also, who's the best debuffer for the ending 2 boss stomp? Can I use necrosis and waai fu and mousse at the same time?

[steel relic]

Cube always just says Rose Salt

[woeful anchor]

leizi s3 good vs hitcount enemies, and she doesnt suckass at e1

[boreal island]

she chinese?

[steel relic]

spanish

[wild geyser]

Alrite thanks

[woeful anchor]

rose salt is to give ur ops gavial s3

so u dont get 1 tapped by ed2 foot

but if u have exu u dont need her

cos 7k shield haha

[boreal island]

Curious, maybe she is just that good.

[woeful anchor]

shes a tech pick

[boreal island]

What are my chinese medic options tho. Surely, 1 medic and waai fu is enough.

[paper notch]

purestream was one iirc

[boreal island]

Perfect, we skip ros and get 2 tech that also improve headcount.

[hardy moth]

I haven't done IS enough so

[flint token]

🤔

[paper notch]

lessing is uhhhh

sub-optimal

i say from experience

[errant siren]

Male Skadi

🥹

[paper notch]

his s2 scales better with buffs than her s2 so it's all good

[flint token]

Lessing just scale way better with buffs in general

[flint token]

In other words fork found in kitchen

Oh wait this bozo has a hand

[paper notch]

you can never be too sure with these things. maybe he's broken in is5

oh yeah he has hand lmao

[errant siren]

[paper notch]

i dont draft him even for welfare only runs 🤫

he's just sub-optimal yk

[steel relic]

bro's living in is3

[paper notch]

you wouldnt know if he had a hand without testing. very possible this has never been tested before

i think nyamu scales better than lessing with a lot of relics so yeah... likely not gonna be using him in the future either

[robust grail]

and so we draft him in talons

[chrome tangle]

and then u get 5 billion relics

[flint token]

No i just remembered rending exists

L run anyway i got the hope tax relic on f3

[somber stream]

IS5 hand of rending doesn't seem to include dreadnoughts...

[jagged heath]

How good is gnosis with his module in each IS mode?
How high is his draft priority?

I'd guess trag and ange are better picks than him 99% of the time

[unkempt lion]

Oh shit I discovered the 4th ending in is4 by accident, gg

[astral sentinel]

What is this stage bruh
First time seeing this

[astral sentinel]

Nobody uses dreadnoughts

[inland elbow]

low prio in all of them

it's a good module but not good enough to justify over ange or trag yeah

[astral sentinel]

It seems broken though

[astral sentinel]

Angelina?

Is vro trolling

[crimson nest]

Ange is mod is literally omega good

One of the best ones

[errant siren]

Logos' Mom: Alter form

🥹

[brave widget]

hi does anyone have archetto with is module? wanna try playing is w her :> my id is Zero#04405 or i'll add you, thanks!

[full briar]

so ive done an is2, 3, and 4 run, beat 2 and 4 on ending 1, and im interested in doing more is4, what should i focus on wrt that

there's a lot of buttons only some of which make sense

for personal reasons i will not be doing is5 and 6 at this time (i don't wanna, i wanna do is4)

[errant siren]

???

You mean what endings in Sami IS?

[full briar]

no, more generally
like in the sami one there's deep exploration, there's the character stuff, and then there's the difficulty track, i think those are my three options

which of those should i bang away at

[errant siren]

...all of it. You'll do all of it eventually.

[full briar]

which first

[errant siren]

You can start with Deeps, since it's one time reward.

[errant siren]

Whatever you like.

[full briar]

pick something ig

do the character stories start with prebaked squads like is:phantom?

[errant siren]

No, it gives one free operator

Either Five- or SixStar, plus 2 random vouchers

[full briar]

ugh those do not fill me with joy in that case

[errant siren]

And the rule is same as IS2.

[full briar]

that being?

(i never got very far with those)

[errant siren]

5th Floor - all 3 notes and you can leave run now before going Final Boss.

By Abandon button in IS Main menu.

[full briar]

oh ok

if i do boss anyway and lose do i lose those notes?

[errant siren]

Nope

Main objective is to do the mission to get rewards

[full briar]

aight, seems like a waste of time to not at least try for the boss and get some xp

though i see how some would think it's a waste of time to do that

[errant siren]

2nd Note is always reach 3rd Floor; 3rd Note - 5th Floor.

[full briar]

also is this pattern true for other is-es? do the deeps first?

(the alt endings i usually cheat and read on the wiki, so i'm not hugely concerned with unlocking them for the reading alone)

(though is:sui i might make an effort to unlock them myself depending on time constraints)

[errant siren]

No, just do whatever you like first, honestly.

You just could start with Monthlies and Deeps first

To not lose points for battlepass after doing Regular runs after 155LV battlepass.

[full briar]

also i assume that the battlepass ops are at least a little good in their home is-es

valarq, tin man, &c.

[chrome tangle]

valar sucks ass

[errant siren]

Shalem is trash.
Highmore is LaPluma sidebar in IS3 and trash elsewhere.
Valarq is trash.
Tin Man is surprisingly decent to play even outside of ISes and helpful in IS5.
And Raidian same as Tin Man on IS6.

[chrome tangle]

id say Pluma is better than Highmore

but both suck

so 🚬

[errant siren]

So only Tin Man and Raidian has any value.

[chrome tangle]

not really

[errant siren]

[chrome tangle]

Tin Man kinda is watever

waste of a ticket

Raidian is like god

as opposed to Tin Man just being a mule

[full briar]

mule as in?

[chrome tangle]

his job is to carry Thoughts in IS5

[errant siren]

Thought Carry.

[full briar]

i assume that'll make sense when i get to it

[errant siren]

Because +17 on his hands alone.

[chrome tangle]

have you played IS4

[full briar]

yes

[chrome tangle]

imagine if u had folds for IS5, but those folds were not Node Changing

[full briar]

i can see it

[chrome tangle]

and they gave u temp buffs

each Thought has a weight

and you can only carry so much

[full briar]

yeah i can see it

[chrome tangle]

Tin Man just gives u a lot more space to carry more thoughts

[full briar]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-crawl-wobble-gif-3536932

that?

well without the black ice

anyway back on topic, if and when i get the all the fun nonsense sorted what's the easiest way to grid the pass?

aside from just bringing wisadel

[errant siren]

Bring ExuAlt.

Since Wis can die from Spiky Chests.

[full briar]

i assume max difficulty normal mode is best xp/time?

bring a busted op and spam that? or is there something else i ought to do

more general across is-es because i assume the location of the farming is roughly the same

or is it meaningless

[errant siren]

*D7/D10 is best XP/time

For IS4 it's D10.

[errant siren]

Basically yes.

[full briar]

oh ok so just the lowest difficulty with 150% score?

7/7/10/10/10, respectively?

[errant siren]

Yes.

[errant siren]

Yes.

After that point, score never raise more, just difficulty.

So no point of doing max diff.

[full briar]

Alright thanks a ton guys
The more I can make this like mirror dungeons the happier I’ll be

[astral sentinel]

Yooooo I broke the game

Rhoder's gate + portal encounter fight + level up

[errant siren]

It was already in #1211608727103340616

[astral sentinel]

That's why I'm not posting it in #1211608727103340616 right

[fleet citrus]

My hatred for Final Cadence has increased exponentially

[chrome tangle]

does it go away after u do a fight

[fleet citrus]

Holy fuck why does it genuinely take so long to fly into the blue box that I'd already have cleared the rest of the stage before it does so

[errant siren]

In order to make you kill him?

[astral sentinel]

Had to restart the game

[errant siren]

Like he serves for dying.

[crimson nest]

Nah

You leak em for relic

[errant siren]

Good point.

Until you have exact 1 HP.

[astral sentinel]

For me it's usually he draws fire on itself and the frontline gets neglected

[fleet citrus]

The worst part is when I don't get a medic voucher

After 10 nodes

In two runs

[errant siren]

Lowroll issue

Roll more

[fleet citrus]

Talons or Lamp

[mild coral]

what mastery for leizhi for is?

[errant siren]

S2M3

If you feel that S1 or S3 is needed, do M3 for them too, but try it first.

[mild coral]

ty!

[muted skiff]

amiya hacked in

[paper notch]

tin man is fine at best in his own IS. Raidian is kinda broken in is6. everyone else is shit

highmore is fine at lower difficulties in is3 but on higher difficulties she loses a 1v1 to a singular urchin ball

[acoustic spire]

What makes IS6 different from IS5?

[paper notch]

no lamp is the big thing

along with no hand nor kings relics. bosky is reworked. coin box system. talisman enemies that stick to your units. different relic pool. ability to save vouchers. candlebearer system. new nodes. Raidian

[errant siren]

No Lamp
No Kings
No Hands
Instead of Plans and Thoughts, you have Tickets and Coins.
Tickets used to go vertically, refresh Shop and reroll Coins.
Coins gives something, like "If I get to nonbattle node, you get Ingots", etc.

Bosky is unique now.

You can go by orthodox tiles and it's limited by Candle amount. Every tile you passed, you lose one.
Should you lose all and you'll return back to Normal World.

And you can keep Vouchers now you get instead of using them immediately.

To perform E2, when enough Hope in some nodes (it will have a discount that way!), or making them Candleholders (something like E3 but no stat-raise).

To play battles in Bosky, you need to have Candleholders. Otherwise, ops without it will be banned and removed from squad.

So your roster there will be very limited.

And, btw, doing End3 and End4 allows you to only play Candleholders.

Like in Bosky.

Don't forget to do that before meeting bosses with basically no one.

[sinful sparrow]

misinfo

ending 4 doesnt need candleholder
it just wants you to send operators into the scroll

which is a completely different thing

🚬

[errant siren]

Ah

[rare oar]

The Sui's IS site calls it IS5, this is fungamist erasure.

[tacit oyster]

FUCKING IS5

[ionic kestrel]

[tacit oyster]

IT'S MY 3RD TIME REACHING THE DHARMA SERMON AND IT CRASHED

FOR THE 3RD TIME IN A ROW

[steel relic]

This sounds more like an emulator issue

[tacit oyster]

Yeah, I'm using gplay

idk why google for pc crashes too much

[rare oar]

A truly invincible strategy, there appears to be much to learn from his sermon

[tacit oyster]

Fighting patriot, that is no problem. Never crashed once. Neither was fighting amiya

but for some reason, doing Dharma sermon with Amiya in the next floor keeps crashing before the level loads

so my run dies before I even begin

[tacit oyster]

I am going to sodomize turkish buddha so help me god

[remote badger]

1 simple fucking rule for doing quilon: do not kill the boats

[tacit oyster]

Yeah, I killed quilon before, on the app. But for pc he keeps crashing

[remote badger]

restart ur emu/game pre boss

[acoustic spire]

So what kind of ops scale better in IS6?

[errant siren]

Dunno, gonna figure it out myself.

[flint token]

word on the street tacfort is somehow meta

thanks to the next banner and radian

[acoustic spire]

What's tacfort, again?

[flint token]

defender supporter class squad

also sniper medic somehow become trash

[steel relic]

Good ending

[acoustic spire]

Whuh? How?

Also, is Radian good outside of IS? I'm short on mats right now.

[errant siren]

You don't have to build her.

Like.

AT ALL.

She's leveling herself and her skills/mods by simply playing IS6 and doing missions for opening/upgrading.

So she's even newbie-friendly.

[acoustic spire]

Hot dang! So essentially, she gets E2ed and whatnot for free?

[errant siren]

Yes. Just do the missions for Elite/Skill Mastery/Module and that's it.

[acoustic spire]

Is there anything in Radian's kit that needs to be built with my own funds, or is literally EVERYTHING about her free?

[errant siren]

Literally everything

[acoustic spire]

Awesome, I'm pretty excited to play IS6.

Compared to the other IS modes, how would you rank IS6's difficulty?

[errant siren]

Raidian Missions

Obtaining

Reach Level 1 in [Integrated Strategies #6: Sui's Garden of Grotesqueries] Battlepass

Levels

Weekly Missions: (total of 20,000 EXP a week)

Spend 500 sanity (+6000 EXP)
Spend 1000 Sanity (+6000 EXP)
Complete a run in IS6 (+8000 EXP)
Play IS6
1 point (not level) = 27 EXP

Promotion

Elite 1:Reach Floor 3 in IS6
Elite 2: On Difficulty 2 or above, clear IS6 once.

Skills

SL4: On Difficulty 1 or above in IS6, reach Floor 5.
SL7: On Difficulty 1 or above in IS6, enter 5 Encounter Nodes.

Masteries

S1

M1: On Difficulty 4 or above in IS6, clear any endings.
M2: On Difficulty 5 or above in IS6, clear Ending 2.
M3: On Difficulty 7 or above in IS6 on 游客分队 Squad, recruit Raidian and clear any ending.
S2
M1: On Difficulty 4 or above in IS6, clear any endings on any two squads.
M2: On Difficulty 5 or above in IS6, clear Ending 2 on any two squads.
M3: On Difficulty 7 or above in IS6 on 司岁台分队 Squad, recruit Raidian and clear any ending.
S3
M1: On Difficulty 4 or above in IS6, clear any endings on any three squads.
M2: On Difficulty 5 or above in IS6, clear Ending 2 on any three squads.
M3: On Difficulty 7 or above in IS6 on 天师府分队 Squad, recruit Raidian and clear any ending.

Modules

Automatically unlocks at E2-60
Stage 2: On Difficulty 9 or above in IS6, clear Ending 3.
Stage 3: On Difficulty 10 or above in IS6, recruit Raidian & clear Ending 3.

[errant siren]

Idk, needs to play myself to know that.

But it will be definitely harder than IS5 for sure.

[errant siren]

Module is SO-A btw

Don't have B one.

From IS5 experience, E1-60 have enough for D18.

Idk about that one, try E1 first and E2 those, which needs for better output.

Ethan would be glad to be E2-40 S2M3 Mod3, saying in advance.

So you'll have 84% chance to bind every hit.

[hardy radish]

when reaching final floor, remember to exit and restart Arknights
in this way, the app would work properly

[urban isle]

Be me

Play is3

Pick last knight ending

Did not get any supporter voucher

Get sniper voucher while at low hope

No lemuen or tragodia

Good relic ready to go to floor 6 and shit

Dies at 20 life

[low vortex]

Where nymph

Where Ela Weedy!

[sinful sparrow]

fat pram

[urban isle]

Too poor

[urban isle]

Caster in is3

[errant siren]

Don't call her fat, it's fur!

[urban isle]

[low vortex]

She’s a staller

[errant siren]

[urban isle]

It is3

[low vortex]

She’s a staller

[urban isle]

I can blame shit on the rng

It within my right

[low vortex]

[urban isle]

I CAST BELOW DIFF 16

[sinful sparrow]

good morning pregnant male Light

or night

idk

[low vortex]

Its morning

9 am

Thank you

Time to sleep

[urban isle]

Ima do more is3

I'm like

Lv 110 rn

[sinful sparrow]

???

[urban isle]

60 more to go

[errant siren]

He called you preg

[sinful sparrow]

bro stayed up until 9am

[urban isle]

AHAHHEHS

[sinful sparrow]

death

[urban isle]

Anyway to speed it up?

Extra floor is rng

Ending 3 and 4
Ending 3 and 4

[low vortex]

Wanderland?

You just rush ED1 if you want points

Speed run ED1 on D7 or whatever

[urban isle]

Man
I miss is4 and 5

I hope is2 isn't that suffering

[urban isle]

Also

The answer to izumik is just
Just let him eat the jelly fish first phase

Stalling that shit for me feel like pain and suffering

For 0 pay off

[low vortex]

IS2 is pure suffering

Slow and boring

No the answer to Izumik is weedy

[urban isle]

Also i reached true arknight endgame
I 100% the story

[urban isle]

Weedy is3 start

[low vortex]

There’s no end game

There’s only what you make of it

[urban isle]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[low vortex]

No weedy L

Get top op

[sinful sparrow]

Send pfp

[low vortex]

Gatekeep time

[sinful sparrow]

🫃

🫄

Ur cringe

[low vortex]

Uh I need to find the tweet 🥀

[sinful sparrow]

should've saved it!

[errant siren]

I have Weedy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1319816526584483840/Weedy_cooked.gif

[low vortex]

Not talking to you!

[errant siren]

Start working

[low vortex]

It’s saved on my computer

Trying to sleep

[errant siren]

[sinful sparrow]

ok then go sleep and ping me again in 8 hours

[errant siren]

Rude.

[sinful sparrow]

gn

[open finch]

Why do ppl keep telling me their enter eternity ideas

[gaunt bay]

Hi gays

[open finch]

But never actually play it themselves

Amogus

[gaunt bay]

Isnt the record 4

No way that shit is doable 3

[open finch]

4op is leak 1 atm

[low vortex]

Just cat better

Trust

[robust grail]

@low vortex

[sinful sparrow]

the question we need to ask ourselves is that
why are they still cooking EE ideas

IS4 is dead for 2 years already 🥀

[robust grail]

hello light

https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/low-rarity-recommendations/

[low vortex]

Hi

Hmmmmm

[sinful sparrow]

damn

[robust grail]

pin now

[sinful sparrow]

low rarity is5 guide

1 day before it dies

excellent

[robust grail]

[coarse shore]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-rosmontis-arknights-rosmontis-wave-wave-hi-hello-hello-chat-gif-3974304504790864875

[robust grail]

https://tenor.com/view/rosmontis-gif-arknights-gif-arknights-rosmontis-gif-arknights-reaction-takdes-gif-14293262874431848550

[low vortex]

This is niche

[robust grail]

is it tho

[low vortex]

For the sake of most people here they either already know or don’t know anything

I’m going to tweak your old tier list

[robust grail]

what about my 245 pathing guide then

[low vortex]

Still more general

[robust grail]

that got added

[low vortex]

Than specific squad 4*

[ionic kestrel]

omg

kermo

[low vortex]

Most people who want it will be looking at individual strat guides

I think that page is useless if not general 4* suggestion / use case explanations

[open finch]

Mei ur the n word

Niche

[robust grail]

that's too general to the point of being wrong

[remote badger]

lmao

[low vortex]

It can be wrong

[robust grail]

if someone wants to play 245, then they must pick a specific comp to play it with

[sinful sparrow]

Bro said the n word

🥀

what if i emergent gameplay

into snowball

[low vortex]

But that’s not what someone who’s newer wants to know

[robust grail]

i think they would be interested

we've seen this question asked many times

what should i build if i want to attempt harder ISs?

[errant siren]

...No More Than Four?

[low vortex]

I think I will redo pins format again later

[errant siren]

[remote badger]

n*che

[robust grail]

and then inevitably you redirect them to snipemed and they refer to the snipemed specific builds

[remote badger]

nmt4 is not

[errant siren]

Ah this one

[robust grail]

instead of wasting their mats on snipemed irrelevant ops

[low vortex]

I think sniper medic needs to be the first thing on that website

[robust grail]

no

soul escort

[ionic kestrel]

wtf

why not gvg shill?

[robust grail]

er

[ionic kestrel]

fell off

[low vortex]

Sniper medic is what the average joe plays

[robust grail]

fine snipemed can go first

[remote badger]

also bp

ppl smh like it

[robust grail]

but i do think soul escort is extremely easy to play

[low vortex]

I’m going to look it over later I’ll set an alarm for 12 hours

It is easy after you learn how to dedicate time to Yato

[robust grail]

it really isn't hard, you just use Yato like a power strike

[low vortex]

It isn’t

[robust grail]

the fact that you can put Yato anywhere to solve your problems instantly is already quite broken

[low vortex]

But there’s a dedication curve

[robust grail]

there is so so much leeway and you don't have to learn how to manage your toll

[sinful sparrow]

this necessarily implies spending the time to practice yato

🥀

[robust grail]

and Ros needs practice

[low vortex]

Yes so it’s less attractive to people

[robust grail]

how hard is flingers shop rob

[sinful sparrow]

ros is way more braindead bruh

[robust grail]

compared to SE shop rob

[low vortex]

Well people don’t play ros either unlesss dedicated
And you don’t lose on F1/2

[sinful sparrow]

(people just draft wis)

lol

imagine

[low vortex]

Mei you’re thinking from the squad consistency
Not what people play

[robust grail]

if they're dedicated then they'll spend the time to learn f1 and f2

[low vortex]

My concerns for what to to pins is what I think it’s played

[robust grail]

i'm thinking exactly about what people should play

[remote badger]

trying not to lose 15 ingots when starting

[low vortex]

That’s a huge if

Should

Not do

[robust grail]

and so we recommend new players to play soul escort?

it's extremely cheap to build for anyways

[low vortex]

It would be good but

You also asking people to not play the game

[robust grail]

is there really a learning curve

[low vortex]

It’s not learning curve

It’s time curve

[remote badger]

apparently maybe

[robust grail]

that is a learning curve

[low vortex]

You still learn how to deploy yato for several runs

Many runs for some people

Who don’t even pause deploy

[robust grail]

'learning' and 'time' are two variables on the same graph

[low vortex]

Learning curves can to do with brain bandwidth

[robust grail]

i learned soul escort without pause dep without kafka in a week

[low vortex]

Soul escort just takes time

Yeah that’s still a week

Lmao

[robust grail]

and i'm one of the worst players

[low vortex]

That’s the problem

[remote badger]

and the burn outs

[low vortex]

You’re still playing a lot and the week
I don’t want people burn out even if Soul Escorr is the most budget friendly

[robust grail]

burn out?

[remote badger]

assuming that player is too impatient

[sinful sparrow]

imma be fr Mei

as the average joe of IS5, I think people just aren't as dedicated as you in terms of wanting to learn, at least IS5

and 245 as a whole

[robust grail]

if the player is too impatient and plays through half an hour just to die at shop rob

isn't that more demoralising

or em merc

[low vortex]

Uh depends

Soul escort they quit after 2 runs

[robust grail]

SE actually has an easy and intuitive matchup into the harder stages

[low vortex]

👍

[robust grail]

and not every SE run takes 5 hours

that's a very common misconception

[sinful sparrow]

the first like 3 days gonna go down the drain dying f1-f3 🥀

[low vortex]

2 runs as in 2 runs of losing on F2 lmao

[sinful sparrow]

0 moral
0 will to play

7 days of cringe

[low vortex]

If you’re dedicated to learn the game

Learn IS5

You will seek our soul escort

[robust grail]

if they're unwilling to learn, then soul escort is even better

[low vortex]

But that’s not what I’m pinning

That’s just wrong

Lmao

[sinful sparrow]

im not sure how soul escort is intuitive

[robust grail]

you say that like soul escort f1 and f2 are hard

[low vortex]

Soul escort initial time curve is big

[sinful sparrow]

it's really not, if you're used to spamming flingers like me

[robust grail]

and especially for low diff

[low vortex]

It’s not hard
It takes time

[remote badger]

imagine pause deploying on irl phone

[sinful sparrow]

the egrigous idea of spamming Yato like a goober until enemy dies is more alien to most people than you might think

🤫

[low vortex]

Yeah forget for a few seconds and you lost the spine

[robust grail]

i nearly won norito without pause deploy nor kafka

please stop mentioning pause deploy

[low vortex]

Escorts not hard but you need to make good habit

[sinful sparrow]

also right, you still need to learn some macro skills for 245 anyways

so there's more time sink there

gg

[robust grail]

ok

thank you

i get it now

i'm wrong

the average player has already invested time in various variants of flingers comps

[sinful sparrow]

overall i think this mode is slop and you should prepare for is6

more fun!

[low vortex]

The average player doesn’t think D18 is a real difficulty

[flint token]

the average player run triple flinger ed1

[robust grail]

yup

i get it now

[sinful sparrow]

i mean i saw some goober on reddit saying d2 ed1 for IS6 is hard and that he isn't getting e2 raidian

😢

how cringe is this

[low vortex]

The average player doesn’t know there’s strategies to integrated strategies
They think it’s all RNG

It would be nice to teach and cultivate

But that’s the people willing to invest time into the game

[errant siren]

Skill issues

[flint token]

me when i have to integrate strategies into my gameplay

[low vortex]

People willing to learn and want to learn will learn you can’t stop them

Those not willing to learn won’t it’s that simple

They will read the entire IS Central website

[robust grail]

and there's no inbetween?

[low vortex]

It’s really slim

[errant siren]

I ain't want to IS2 D15 End4 with melee carry 🥹

[low vortex]

I teach irl too I see it often

[remote badger]

wait whar

[sinful sparrow]

the inbetweens are like
me

[rustic spade]

:binoculars:

[low vortex]

Hi

Bye

I’ll be redoing pins
And the 245 pathing is there because it’s not on IS central website I think

[rustic spade]

The low rarity stuff is for ppl that wanna actually learn to play and not afk their way through stuff

If they wanna do that they shouldnt even bother spending resources

[woeful knot]

ur just bad

[low vortex]

I think one rounded list of 4* to build for someone progression is good
Like reaching to D18

[woeful knot]

😇

[sinful sparrow]

i will admit this

i am very bad at IS5

like atrociously so

[errant siren]

I can give her maxed in everything Wis

[rustic spade]

If they just wanna reach d18 they wont be hope restricted and can just spam ed1 so 4 stars past those u can borrow are irrelevant

[sinful sparrow]

no bruh i dont even draft wis

🚬

bro is gonna tell me to borrow e1 wis and play talons

🥀

[errant siren]

[pliant bear]

Tragedy just made this thing fall asleep

[woeful anchor]

nice frames

[cedar owl]

Man, I love deep exploration

[burnt lantern]

Which squad you guys pick for IS3 diff 17+ exu start? I usually use People or Tactical Squad in lower Diff

[carmine token]

Decent atk

[cedar owl]

it spiked to around 30k eventually

[carmine token]

[icy lake]

dunno if this belongs here but finally done is4 ed2

using fucking support squad

[carmine token]

Ed2 is the easiest one

[carmine token]

🥹 🥹 🥹

[woeful anchor]

spec cas

[woeful anchor]

ed1 is easier

u point trag at the ed1 boss and now he does nothing

lol

[carmine token]

Like ed2 isn't tank+ healer for boss 💔

[ionic kestrel]

perma paralysis technologies

[grizzled ore]

What does this do exactly?

[halcyon flame]

holy sheet its die alive and mei

[halcyon flame]

this is so real

[errant siren]

Changes Ending and adds another Final Boss.

[halcyon flame]

synapses fried wcyd

[errant siren]

You'll fight bad Amiya on Floor 6.

[sinful sparrow]

hi babe~

[fleet citrus]

Mmm yes I love being punished by going for King's Set

[halcyon flame]

get back in the unspecified place 💢

[fleet citrus]

What a fucking ridiculous mechanic

[halcyon flame]

?

[fleet citrus]

The auto-leak

I only had 9 HP

[errant siren]

Unprepared

[fleet citrus]

I went in blind

[errant siren]

But you had 2 FRDs.

[halcyon flame]

if ur going in blind thats not a mechanic issue

[fleet citrus]

Like the fact the stage doesn't even tell you the mechanics on mission start

[errant siren]

You know what will awaits you.

[fleet citrus]

I didn't fucking expect AUTO-LEAK

[halcyon flame]

what do you mean autoleak

[errant siren]

Autoleak, what is that?

[halcyon flame]

oh they let the timer run out

lol

[fleet citrus]

No

The fucking

Black wave that starts spawning and eats the enemies

That automatically leaks them

[halcyon flame]

yea

[fleet citrus]

Why is that a thing

[halcyon flame]

thats the timer running out

lol

[fleet citrus]

[errant siren]

Because HG wanted that.

And you killed Saint Patriot.

So it starts immediately.

You use FRD to prevent his release.

As long as you can.

There's no way you bring FRD without knowing it.

[fleet citrus]

I only overheard about bringing FRD

To bounce the balls to deploy ops easier

Not

[errant siren]

K, next time know that, plz.

[fleet citrus]

"oh this hidden mechanic, which is tied to another unexplained mechanic, which spawns this guy, activates when you kill this guy"

[halcyon flame]

if you wanted to go in blind for the first time experience

then thats on you

if you jujst wanted to win

then thats also on you

for not reading before hadn

its known that ak doesnt explain stage mechanics in IS well at all

esp when it comes to bosses

[fleet citrus]

So to get this straight

[steel relic]

It’s known that AK doesn’t explain mechanics well*

[fleet citrus]

Patriot, Theresis, and whoever the fuck appears on the 3rd stage

Must not spawn or die

[halcyon flame]

no they can die third stage

[errant siren]

3rd stage doesn't matter

It's just timegate.

[halcyon flame]

only stage 1 and 2

[fleet citrus]

But you need to chunk Amiya down to 50/0 eitherway

[halcyon flame]

do the bosses trigger early skill

[woeful anchor]

they always spawn

[fleet citrus]

Spawn as quickly as they normally do*

[woeful anchor]

killing them triggers amiya floor seal ability early

normally she takes like ~4.5 minutes before sealing floor

(3 minutes if fractured)

[halcyon flame]

that

is literally

what i said fib

you goober

[woeful anchor]

u werent asking?

[fleet citrus]

And the only good ways of damaging Amiya

Is Kal'tsit

[woeful anchor]

you said "do the bosses trigger early skill"

[fleet citrus]

Or Shamare?

[halcyon flame]

holy fib no reading ability

[woeful anchor]

that literally sounds like a question

[halcyon flame]

my guy

[sinful sparrow]

🥀

[woeful anchor]

well shamare atk down is good

[halcyon flame]

ITS LITERALLY 1 MESSAGE UP

😭

[fleet citrus]

Isn't the point to chunk her DEF

[sinful sparrow]

fib is so cringe

[steel relic]

Because Aly is cringe and doesn’t write shit in one message

[sinful sparrow]

this is why bro is 🫃

[errant siren]

Also too.

[fleet citrus]

Because Wis'adel was doing fuck all to her

[halcyon flame]

zip it red

go prep ur defenses against tourist

you have 24 hours

[woeful anchor]

yeah that is good too but amiya deals 7k true dmg to 7 units (global range) in phase 3 when touching ball, so -50% atk is pretty good

[fleet citrus]

What in the fuck

[woeful anchor]

3.5k true dmg more managable than 7k

[sinful sparrow]

mpreg

[steel relic]

I have my defenses it’s called snipping tool pic of wisadel

[errant siren]

She doesn't need Shamare, should have enough ATK to pierce her ass alone tho.

Especially D12.

[woeful anchor]

oh its d12 uh idk how much atk she has at d12

[errant siren]

It's not that big regardless.

[dusk creek]

It’s 180s normal/100s fractured

[errant siren]

At worst two shots.

[woeful anchor]

isnt it 280/180

wat

[errant siren]

Isn't when Egg?

[dusk creek]

280 is map3 only

[halcyon flame]

excellent

[digital bough]

what egg

[dusk creek]

Map3 p2*

[halcyon flame]

dont forget to include exu in there as well

[errant siren]

Reality of the End.

[fleet citrus]

I had like 0 ATK buffs aside from King's Set

[errant siren]

Last version of Amiya Exit.

[fleet citrus]

My ass did not get good ATK buffs

Even with Rise and Fall active

[errant siren]

With worst conditions.

[woeful anchor]

ah map3 p2

mb then

[fleet citrus]

[dusk creek]

The 280/180 is like without/with t3 egg

But all the p1 are 180/100

[errant siren]

+150% ATK isn't that small tho.

But if you struggle, alr, bring Shamare.

[woeful anchor]

yeah i misremembered

t3 is 120 huh

[halcyon flame]

wow

you cant read 2x

[woeful anchor]

??

i misremembered

[halcyon flame]

stop gooning so much fiub

fib

[woeful anchor]

aly is being such a hater

[halcyon flame]

🥀

[dusk creek]

Ya 120

[halcyon flame]

&fib2

[sinful sparrow]

this is why you dont goon to twinks ngl

&fib2

[woeful anchor]

???

[halcyon flame]

get back to work boy

on 2 op knight

[dusk creek]

Just need to wait for a super wis

[somber stream]

What's 2 op knight? Wis and Trag?

[halcyon flame]

super wis will come with is7 kazimer edition

[woeful anchor]

bro 2op needs way more than super wis

[dusk creek]

Super wis + super trag mb

[woeful anchor]

u need super duper wis

ya or super wis + super trag works too

[somber stream]

Is it relicless?

[halcyon flame]

bro needs the chuuni intern to cook a character again

[somber stream]

[woeful anchor]

i wonder if 2op lofty shows more promise

[sinful sparrow]

anyways gn

11pm and i need to work tmr

🥀

[woeful anchor]

i remember someone saying trag ling

but kinda sounds fake

🤔

[somber stream]

Is the challenge two operators only the whole run, or just for the boss fight?

[woeful anchor]

just for the fight

[somber stream]

Oh. That's fair.

[dusk creek]

Ling sounds mega fake

[woeful knot]

get back to working relicless fib after u gave away our ticket to 3 op 😢

we even have the pots now

[woeful anchor]

our?

ur ass didnt even do anything senz

[halcyon flame]

[woeful anchor]

u gave like 1 wrong suggestion

:realmad:

[woeful knot]

en bozo

[woeful anchor]

damn

bro tryna profit while doing nothing

[halcyon flame]

damn fib the greedy corporate boss that causes the downfall of the company

[woeful anchor]

:realmad:

[halcyon flame]

smh

or just HR

[woeful anchor]

its ok en has 2x catboy fermont

🤫

goated clear

trust

ok wat if phantom trag for lofty

thoughts?

idk sounds mega fake as well

[woeful knot]

im not inviting you to work on 4 op izumik :realmad:

[dusk creek]

Oh wait you’re talking about lofty

[woeful anchor]

i dont even have mastery over izumik spawns 😭

my ass cant help there

[woeful anchor]

ya

[dusk creek]

I wonder if lofty is jobber enough

[woeful anchor]

i mean boss stuns 2 units

on p2

[dusk creek]

It’s fine cause you know low ops ain’t going to transform any jellies

[woeful anchor]

so it needs to be a summoner

otherwise trag just dies

😂

[steel relic]

Necrass

[dusk creek]

So no need to know how the mechanic works 😇

[woeful anchor]

necrass cant multilane

:realmad:

give necrass global range mod yep

[dusk creek]

Oh true lofty has the stun

[woeful anchor]

make her goldenglow2

[dusk creek]

Stronger than ici fr

[steel relic]

Real

[woeful knot]

yeah you dont need to think of that :joyplush:

im thinking about bait’s suggestion

[woeful anchor]

who do u even kill

in izumik

cliffheart?

its prolly an entirely new strat

wait for mag mod delta/alpha

👍

[woeful knot]

well hes suggestion was trag weedy mag glad

[woeful anchor]

wtf does trag do

[woeful knot]

but i dont think trag has enough damage

[steel relic]

Wouldn’t you just die without Cliffheart cuz acid cancel

[woeful knot]

he stalls izumik

[woeful anchor]

ur not killing izumik?

[woeful knot]

glad is the hardest version to pull off but she can do it

[woeful knot]

in like an hour sure

[woeful anchor]

if ur a god at the game u can use trag to acid cancel

😇

[steel relic]

Wild

[woeful anchor]

its true tho

😂

[woeful knot]

its similar to the nymph start

[steel relic]

Paralyse blocks it?

[woeful knot]

strat*

[woeful knot]

TRUE

[woeful anchor]

no

but u can make jelly touch boss

and time it properly so that u achieve same results as cliff

basically

its like gladia

be good at the game bro:

[woeful knot]

joking idt so

25s ass

[woeful anchor]

wat

oh right

[woeful knot]

how u fitting that

[woeful anchor]

🤔

[dusk creek]

It’s like gladiia but margin is worse cause the jellies are moving at normal speed

[woeful anchor]

i mean if u can use trag to acid cancel

that frees up glad

surely

take phantom instead

wait u can use phantom to acid cancel bro

🗣️

[dusk creek]

Mantas will still be final boss right

[woeful anchor]

acid cancels except it gets progressively harder

[woeful knot]

bro mantas are literally the problem

[woeful anchor]

brah cliff is op then

air stun too strong

[woeful knot]

nope

[dusk creek]

The 4op is gonna be lemuen or something

[woeful knot]

mostly cuz weedy still needs help

[dusk creek]

Cause at least she can kill mantas

[woeful knot]

she cant actually duo with just mag

[woeful anchor]

damn better wis

🤫

[urban isle]

ahh

[halcyon flame]

mag IS mod will save the en relicless society

[woeful knot]

yes pls

[halcyon flame]

you just have to cold war space/arms race against the chinese to discover it first

icl

Just don’t look CN manpower vs ENs

[woeful anchor]

CN has 20 slaves for sentinel

EN doesnt have 20 people who can get to sentinel

🤫

[woeful knot]

we have only bait

were losing badly

[halcyon flame]

i can slave away in like 40 days bro trust

maybe i can find another slave

[past arch]

whats the most consistent and safest squad, starter and general team for is2 d7 ed1? i'm trying to farm the rewards. i'm at reward lvl 92. i think i know the maps and more or less what to do but still sometimes i get screwed with the recruits or bad hallucinations

i'm looking for a most consistent and optimal strategy

[somber stream]

I'm going to guess it's Wis or Exu2.

[steel relic]

If it’s d7 do you not just spawncamp him with Schwarz Pozy

Ig Lemuen now I forgot she has dodge ignore

[fleet citrus]

Praise be Kal'tsit

[past arch]

which squad? i'm already doing exu2

[somber stream]

I'll say the one that instantly promotes specialist and casters on recruitment. ?

[hasty galleon]

I have never seen this IS giving buffs if you get lucky
Until now

At diff 17

After 16 diffs

I get a buff if i luck out…

I hate this IS

[somber stream]

I'm guessing you're just going for ending 1s to unlock the diffs, because "enlightenments" don't exist, yep. They're just an imagination really.

But then again, I haven't touched D16+.

[woeful knot]

you get this for rolling a 6 while at 100 light

you dont expect to see enlightenments in 95% of your runs

[balmy quiver]

Ts tuff 💀

[hasty galleon]

Yes obv
I have a lot of skill issues, so claiming prizes and dash for me is necessary

[inland elbow]

Bro this one is aids

And I think it's inconsistent

[flint token]

Phantom s3 being the most dogshit thing to ever exists montage

[hasty galleon]

Might as well say: When your operator gets hit by this debuff, kill them instantly

[steel relic]

Just give their cancer to someone else