is-station

[nocturne cape]

Nice ragebait

Leizi Entel is tourney strat

[stray moss]

tinman aint used that much in lamp?

[sinful sparrow]

although he plays 2+4 post dlc1 anyways

[gaunt bay]

🥹

Im on pbone as well i dont have bili on phone

I have no storage

[sinful sparrow]

so theres no furniture to solve
what does entel do

🫃

[stray moss]

i thought he likes all guards

[sinful sparrow]

imma be fr if i actually draft entel
its gonna be for ed2 left

nothing more

[nocturne cape]

He likes sakiko better

Ig since hes doing 2+4 it makes sense

[stray moss]

this

[nocturne cape]

Saki is indeed the goat for ending 4

[sinful sparrow]

2+4 you dont need the hitcount right

cuz all the goobers are non furnitures

(and we will ignore the infinite stall)

[nocturne cape]

Uhhh i suppose you dont but better if you run into furnitures on F4

Entel just makes the en route comfy

[sinful sparrow]

i havent seen that map for a while now

does she?

[gaunt bay]

Enroute furniture

[sinful sparrow]

idk

[boreal island]

What do you do for 2 left side? curious, curious?

[nocturne cape]

She does

[sinful sparrow]

i use hoshi pramalt s1 now

i used to do wis s2

[gaunt bay]

Waow

Pram s1

[nocturne cape]

Recommend by

[gaunt bay]

Broken

[sinful sparrow]

leizi s3 with an ambusher also works

rec by Cube yes

he enlightened me

🧎‍♂️

[nocturne cape]

[gaunt bay]

Is pram s1 actually good

[nocturne cape]

Yeah

[sinful sparrow]

2 left has a decent amount of solves

it pushes spears down

[stray moss]

testing leizi

[nocturne cape]

You only need SL7 tho

[inland elbow]

damage slop boss

excellent

[sinful sparrow]

Quilon type shit

🥀

[nocturne cape]

Its because her note flying around

She can sit on the left and somehow hit the boss in the middle

[sinful sparrow]

She also saved my run from Mounts and Seas (3 tile shapredge map)

So i think she’s turbo goated

[inland elbow]

put me in a cryochamber and wake me up when hg releases a non slop is ty

[sinful sparrow]

is6 is not slop

r u stupid

[boreal island]

pramalt is the real one, sash2's a fraud.

[nocturne cape]

Ok that will be IS6 expansion 2

Trust

[sinful sparrow]

IS6 dlc2 and d18 235

yep

[nocturne cape]

We are fighting chongus bro im so excited

[inland elbow]

how do you fuck up ed4 so badly that 3 is harder

[sinful sparrow]

245 is6 gonna be pregnant (cringe)

[gaunt bay]

What does s1 do agaib

[nocturne cape]

S1 is true aoe push

[boreal island]

push

[gaunt bay]

So

Inverse mizuki?

[nocturne cape]

So

[sinful sparrow]

well i think as the final boss 4 is harder

its just 4 gives you another entire bosky, and way more relic while liberating you of the pressure than ed3 relics inflict

[nocturne cape]

Mizuki is not true aoe

[sinful sparrow]

ed3 is cringe debuff

[nocturne cape]

Hes not even close

[gaunt bay]

Inverse mizuki but better*

[sinful sparrow]

(-50% sp when deployed and max hp bleed)

so its just harder into ending 2

[nocturne cape]

She also has that revive against stomp

Really comfy

[gaunt bay]

Fascinating

This pram girl

Real something i tell ya

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1434332916430672033/Pramanix_is_Here.gif

Cute as well

[nocturne cape]

I think pram is first draft caster if you play no ban meta comp

[gaunt bay]

Does pram get banned

[boreal island]

isn't the push in a single direction, it's more like Lee, but actually good.

[nocturne cape]

Surely not

Shes not that crazy

Shes useful

[sinful sparrow]

she helps against ed2 and the mount of seas but nothing else i think

useful tech

[nocturne cape]

But not really broken

[gaunt bay]

Ic

[sinful sparrow]

caster is once again slop as shit

[gaunt bay]

Ya

[sinful sparrow]

logos is horrible for ed3 bruh

[nocturne cape]

Yeah bro already has a notoriously long startup

Add that with ed3 relic

[sinful sparrow]

fym i need to wait 45s for the first burst

🥀

[gaunt bay]

Joyplush

[nocturne cape]

Hes pretty good for ed4 tho

Because 15s startup is acceptable

45s is not

[inland elbow]

it just sounds like every op who has high total damage slop is good on ed4

[nocturne cape]

Damn right

[inland elbow]

because it has no defence or res

[nocturne cape]

It has 90% DR

[gaunt bay]

the mon3tr angle?

is she alive

[nocturne cape]

(Cancelled by Matterhorn)

[inland elbow]

you cannot get more slop than this

[gaunt bay]

oh

[sinful sparrow]

mon3tr when 1m hp

[gaunt bay]

bruh

[sinful sparrow]

lol nice damage bud

[gaunt bay]

this IS is so jobber bruh

[sinful sparrow]

mon3tr is so dogshit in is6

[inland elbow]

so why is krooster not a good draft

is it just that she's shit en route

[sinful sparrow]

where are you using krooster bruh
0 aerial stun required

[nocturne cape]

She is ok if you play first class ig

[inland elbow]

krooster total damage is pretty high and she's cheap

[gaunt bay]

bait will pioneer krooster tech

[nocturne cape]

First class is pretty good after expansion

[gaunt bay]

just you wait

[inland elbow]

what stops her from being used to dps the boss

[sinful sparrow]

krooster will be good if 10 stack coin machine bro

:clueless:

[nocturne cape]

Well

Frankly anyone can damage the boss

Expansion 1 is so slop

[viscid turtle]

Is there a list of what you need to do to max out Raidian?

[sinful sparrow]

wis became my ed2 left slave now unfort
mf is funny

[nocturne cape]

Its on Wiki

[inland elbow]

ok so it's just that there's no need for a cheap option because you don't even need a boss dps solution

[gaunt bay]

wtf

wis

[nocturne cape]

Yeah pretty much

[inland elbow]

because it's easy and you have infinite hope

[sinful sparrow]

stfu kiwi you aren’t playing bans anyways

[nocturne cape]

Well yeah you reach lv10 every game

[sinful sparrow]

mofo shittalk wis users and then draft wis into 245

[nocturne cape]

Or at least lv9

[sinful sparrow]

:gigampreg:

[nocturne cape]

And theres no petal

[sinful sparrow]

bro i hate petal

never again

if they add it into ed5 we’re executing Bait

[nocturne cape]

And every ending can be solved with like 2-4 major 6stars

So rest of the hope you can fuck around

[sinful sparrow]

cuz bro has been praying for ts and tongbao of wishes

[boreal island]

d18 will fix it (clueless)

[sinful sparrow]

also in the fated encounter what is the good option again

i cant read and MTL does absolutely nothing

[gaunt bay]

mei glazes petal and lamp bro

[nocturne cape]

I pick the one that reveals Ending 2

[sinful sparrow]

mei is an is5 slopper it is known

[inland elbow]

look, it's not my fault hg releases incredible amounts of slop and then has to do a shitty patch job to try and fix it

[sinful sparrow]

mf said is5 is the pinnacle of IS

🫃

actual diabolical

[inland elbow]

the only time this wasn't the case was in is3!

where the mfs just doubled down

[sinful sparrow]

ok Bait

now go grind ur relicless 😊

[gaunt bay]

explain d18

[nocturne cape]

Honestly i was hoping expansion 1 to double down on the diff too

[inland elbow]

d18 is modern hg's doing

[nocturne cape]

But it was slop

[inland elbow]

a good example of how modern hg designs is

[sinful sparrow]

i cant wait for HG to create degenerate bosky maps

[inland elbow]

spam high numbers and dr 👍

[sinful sparrow]

runs are poorer

Bait is gonna say quilon is good design

yep

[inland elbow]

why would I defend is5 bruh

[nocturne cape]

Nope quilon is low on his list

What was your top tier fights again

[inland elbow]

I think is5 is deeply flawed, even if there's skill expression the baseline is so rotten that there's no salvaging it

[sinful sparrow]

why would u play so much 245 if u dont defend it

[nocturne cape]

I remember boat theresis

Was knight one of them too

[sinful sparrow]

theres no skill expression bruh
everytime i play it lamp whiffs me 3 times and i die

wheres the skill!

[inland elbow]

record a run and we'll see

[sinful sparrow]

true

but is6…

[nocturne cape]

Bait is gonna yell at you for picking the low EV route

[sinful sparrow]

wtf 0.4 plans EV on F1

[inland elbow]

like is5 isn't well designed, but managing rng and routing are important skills that it tests

[sinful sparrow]

😢

[inland elbow]

so skill expression is high in it

[sinful sparrow]

managing 3 elusive merc

[inland elbow]

the problem is that it's ridiculously high variance

so you can just get lucky and get a free win

or have the most brokeass fight for your life

[sinful sparrow]

like i will go and record a run or stream this sunday (hopefully not busy)

[nocturne cape]

The skill expression is definitely high

[inland elbow]

like imagine your solution to f4 epochal gaps and sordid being stupid is to just spam a bunch of 0 map plans in

[nocturne cape]

Like i still dont understand how someone managed to win 10 245t3 egg banning mon3tr

[inland elbow]

instead of just reducing the number of spines on the maps

[nocturne cape]

Thats pretty wild

[inland elbow]

or redistributing

[sinful sparrow]

do you think dense jungle is a good or a bad map

[nocturne cape]

Talons

[inland elbow]

dense jungle is good

well designed map

[nocturne cape]

Dense jungle is prob my favorite f2 map

[inland elbow]

lots of counterplay as long as you draft and play carefully

[nocturne cape]

I like dense jungle and temp patch

[inland elbow]

em dense jungle is a bit stat checky

but not overly so

[sinful sparrow]

oddities:

idk why is the x1.5 HP there
is it necessary

[inland elbow]

I mean I did 13 245t1 with lamp, monkeys and typewriters

what was their withdraw limit

[nocturne cape]

Yeah you told me about it

[sinful sparrow]

(he got klp in 12 of them)

‼️

[nocturne cape]

I dont know actually

[inland elbow]

nope, rhoders gate in 13

[sinful sparrow]

Wtf

[nocturne cape]

Its the same guy that died to exhaust vents

[inland elbow]

yeah ok

[sinful sparrow]

tragodia exhaust vents…

[inland elbow]

maybe this is why I don't respect talons players

[nocturne cape]

Their qualifying run was 10 245T3 in a row without mon3tr

[sinful sparrow]

💀 wtf

crazy

[inland elbow]

I'd estimate that 245t3 with ingot talons is like 50% chance of success even without m3

[nocturne cape]

Yep and bro misrefreshed a shop and died to exhaust vents on the actual tourney

[inland elbow]

assuming a human withdraw limit

no withdraw limit crank that shit up higher

[sinful sparrow]

what if you play ingots no withdraw

[inland elbow]

50% is a bit of a lowball

[nocturne cape]

Its still decent but definitely a lot weaker

Theres a reason why TC was a funnel fest

[sinful sparrow]

Can they please implement a mechanic to input amount of tokens to withdraw and it automatically deducts

[nocturne cape]

Every ingot player got like at least 100 to withdraw i thinj

[sinful sparrow]

clicking a trillion buttons is cringe!

[inland elbow]

like if you assume ~60% chance or whatever which I think a good player can probably reach, hitting 10 consecutive runs would be 1/165

100 withdraw is crazy

[sinful sparrow]

is this 100 ingot from your savings
or 100 actual ingot

[cold fjord]

1/165 chance only to be garbage in tourney

Seems legit

[nocturne cape]

Savings

100 balance

[sinful sparrow]

[dusk creek]

The qualifiers had some additional rules no

[inland elbow]

1/165 is low, but with how many players are going and considering that this is if you start from 0

[dusk creek]

Like you can reset if no end5 in 3 encounters

Type stuff

[woeful anchor]

u only need 165 players to attempt

[nocturne cape]

Oh rly

[inland elbow]

the chances of someone getting eventually getting 10 is basically guaranteed

[woeful anchor]

and u will get 1

👍

[sinful sparrow]

shut up fib

&fib2

&fib

[woeful anchor]

&mika

&mika2

[cold fjord]

&fib3

pure slop

[inland elbow]

like someone could have WWLWWWLWWWWWWWWWW

[woeful anchor]

this is why bait needs to grind out the ubi

🤫

[cold fjord]

ok wheres ur 10 winstreak

thats right

[sinful sparrow]

bro is tryna farm pipe bomb from Bait

[nocturne cape]

Bait has 13

[sinful sparrow]

😢

[cold fjord]

13 lose streak

[woeful anchor]

smol egg tho

[sinful sparrow]

are your pipe bombs sourced from china @Bait

[inland elbow]

my streak ended because of no ed5

[nocturne cape]

Do lamp even force t3 egg

[inland elbow]

so maybe my streak would've gone further otherwise!

[nocturne cape]

Ig sescort can?

[sinful sparrow]

forcing t3 on lamp 😭

[cold fjord]

highrolling force t3 egg

[woeful anchor]

lamp doesnt force t3 egg

[nocturne cape]

I have 0 clue

[inland elbow]

the problem with lamp is no plan income

[nocturne cape]

Yeah exactly

[cold fjord]

u eat shit to t3 egg with base relics

[inland elbow]

so t3 egg is pretty unrealistic

[cold fjord]

u need turbo highroll bro

[woeful anchor]

lamp t3 egg needs extra shit (relics)

[inland elbow]

ingot talons you get a bunch of plans if you get above avg rng

[sinful sparrow]

this implies getting above avg rng

what if ur Bait

and u lowroll

what now

[dusk creek]

The problem is that you also take +20% atk for fun

[woeful anchor]

u will roll all the emers without plans

[inland elbow]

yeah well that's why the success rate isn't 90!

it's 60!

[dusk creek]

t3 end5 with lamp relics is not really too different

But having to pay 2 plans and needing 20% more hp sucks

[sinful sparrow]

envy hitting for 9000 damage :ya:

[woeful anchor]

u need to roll hp relic

or -atk relic for enemy

[inland elbow]

ngl when the win rates are this low it always just makes me think you won a coin flip to win

and that by definition you got above average rng

[woeful anchor]

the coinflip: getting fated in 1

[sinful sparrow]

so the angle is rolling unknown instrument aegis or bust

thoughts?

[dusk creek]

Real

[cold fjord]

Good thoughts

[dusk creek]

My steak ended to end4

So I can’t even blame end5 rng

[sinful sparrow]

steak….

[inland elbow]

overall my point is that winstreaks aren't that good of a measure of skill

[woeful anchor]

this why u play relicless instead

so u mald a different type of rng

👍

[inland elbow]

and you should just check average endings

[sinful sparrow]

do ANYTHING instead of playing relicless bruh

🥀

[dusk creek]

Yeah esp in a qualifying context it’s mainly a function of how many runs you churn out

[woeful anchor]

polymer can u translate this

😂 this shit is so ass

[cold fjord]

just do 1000 runs

[dusk creek]

The way you would assess skill is by looking at macro decisions and how you navigate lowroll runs

[woeful anchor]

i can barely understand shit

[cold fjord]

u'll get a 10 streak eventually

[dusk creek]

But no one has the time to do that for others

Easier to just ask them to record 10 wins streak or whatever

[inland elbow]

if I was the leader of a team I'd probably do something like "record the run that displays your skill the best and send it to me"

[nocturne cape]

10 winstreak is like a week of commitment

[inland elbow]

and then I'd interview their decision making after watching

filters the shitters and filters the people who can't take criticism

[cold fjord]

so it filters u

[inland elbow]

in a team environment both are equally important

you'll be the one getting filtered after the life insurnace policy registers

[sinful sparrow]

Wtf is “macro decision”

[cold fjord]

nope!

[sinful sparrow]

what falls under this umbrella

[nocturne cape]

Pathing

[inland elbow]

drafting, route choices, choices to refresh

[nocturne cape]

Drafts

[inland elbow]

anything not inside a combat basically

[sinful sparrow]

[inland elbow]

like just about any monkey can learn to copy a CN guide for how to do a stage

but there's a lot of people who are really bad at macro decision making

[sinful sparrow]

also how do you guys assess lamp refresh, like, when to refresh and when to not

the generic “refresh if low value” doesnt sound very helpful

it ultimately just becomes refresh encounter/0 spine combat for me

🥀

[inland elbow]

it's hard to give a strict guideline mika, that's why macro decision making is hard

[cold fjord]

refresh if elusive merc when u have 1k

[dusk creek]

He says he has 2 thoughts:
First is exu’s handling of the air enemies(?) (I’m not actually sure what 真空期 means in this context)
Second is whether there’s enough damage for the flowers when they start moving at the end

[sinful sparrow]

what if you just win

[dusk creek]

And he hasn’t thought about anything else

[cold fjord]

U wont

[inland elbow]

yeah this is usually what it means

[sinful sparrow]

sad

[inland elbow]

but there's also stuff like at the start of a floor, just refreshing your optimal paths first node to see if it turns into wish

and if it doesn't then refreshing the second best path

so that ur down 1 plan instead of being down 1 plan and a node

it's pretty rare that I refresh a plan combat

[sinful sparrow]

isnt that -2 plans (if lamp whiffs on your best path)

[inland elbow]

yes, but you'd rather know that it whiffed before you commit to a path

imagine if you took the node and then refreshed

then ur ass is path locked into the shit it refreshed into

so ur -1 node on top of -1 plan

and you still don't have ur lamp relic

[sinful sparrow]

🚬 how saddening

[boreal island]

Can I still win IS6 runs by including Ela in my squad for no reason?

[chrome tangle]

I mean

with enough will you win any run with anything

@nocturne cape look at what u made me do

[inland elbow]

if ur ass didn't have her maxed out ur not a sniper med player

[nocturne cape]

Toss is the official term

Normal ending

[chrome tangle]

im a sniper player

imagine using medics 🚮

[chrome tangle]

but also bait i didnt raise Kal til after all the IS5 expansions so like

[inland elbow]

medics are cool 👍

[chrome tangle]

show mod3

right naow

show me ur rose salt usage in IS5 bait

[nocturne cape]

Yep you just upgraded it

[chrome tangle]

false

[nocturne cape]

Its in his guide

[chrome tangle]

fake nyus

i thought his guide was never updated

it didnt even have mon3tr

[nocturne cape]

He updated it

[inland elbow]

ur oudated

[chrome tangle]

cant believe bait had the time during his rng grind fest

to update his guide

[devout sedge]

that sounds even better beating without mont3r

[inland elbow]

ngl I thought about adding more details about drafting and routing and combats

or more to the shop rob

but

I'm lazy as shit and the guide was already 20 pages

[chrome tangle]

wouldnt routing be in general info

[inland elbow]

kinda, snipermed needing a hand changes routing a bit

and then there's ev calculations of f1

overall I think peoples eyes already glaze over reading it

so it's whatever

[chrome tangle]

i think ppl's eyes glaze over things that are long af

[nocturne cape]

It is significantly longer than other guides

[chrome tangle]

it's not inherently your fault that there is too much shit

[dusk creek]

any waterwood guard enjoyers

[inland elbow]

the izumik guide is longer

[nocturne cape]

I was referring to existing guides on the appropriate length when I wrote it

[inland elbow]

also polymer needs to add the no feed grr

[chrome tangle]

how long is ur guide cube

[nocturne cape]

Bait’s is like double the length

[dusk creek]

the tl names seem to be literally just direct TLs

[chrome tangle]

bait just add the no feed

[nocturne cape]

Of a regular is5 guide

[chrome tangle]

🥱

[nocturne cape]

Shorter than his

[dusk creek]

ain't no one gonna remember the names of tongbaos

[nocturne cape]

5k words according to obsidian

[dusk creek]

I need to finish the soul escort guide first plz understand

[inland elbow]

damn you want me to just say "block all the exits, weedy top left, whatever top right, ignore bottom left except for when izumik comes by, use elysium skill to slow them down when that happens"

[chrome tangle]

finishing IS5 guides when IS6 is boutta release

[dusk creek]

better late than never

[chrome tangle]

true

[inland elbow]

because that's roughly my nofeed experience

[nocturne cape]

Isnt die alive and mei also working on some IS5 tierlist

[inland elbow]

oh and place down lee when izumik is in the middle and yolo

[chrome tangle]

dam bait wrote the whole no feed guide right there

[dusk creek]

I guess that's 50% of p1

the rest is top right handling and the third triangle

[inland elbow]

me when top right doesn't stay as frost spider spawns

[dusk creek]

luckily you don't have to find out!

[inland elbow]

I remember being down bad one time so I blocked and prayed

bind caster 👍

mortar only spawn from the triangle right

[dusk creek]

top box can also spawn mortars at some point iirc

[inland elbow]

in my defence I'm not needlessly fluffing it

I just have a lot to say!

and I edited down even!

[nocturne cape]

I am not accusing you of anything

That was a well written guide

[inland elbow]

maybe eyanx should spend more time actually discussing the weaknesses and how to overcome it

instead of just glazing silverash

[nocturne cape]

But yeah average translated guide is around 3k words

Some are shorter

I think

[chrome tangle]

what cube is saying

is that u should lessen the words

[nocturne cape]

You are putting words in my mouth

Im gonna be honest

[chrome tangle]

give ur audience a legend and make acronyms for everything u want to repeatedly say

[inland elbow]

(incredible lie)

[chrome tangle]

I aint reading all dat

[inland elbow]

this comp eats shit to map 2 quilon burst

[nocturne cape]

I read the entire esecort guide and still had no clue on how to play it

[chrome tangle]

attack the person who wrote the guide

[nocturne cape]

Imo thats the worst guide on our site

[ionic bridge]

1 ingot short for golden chalice. Ts is the worst

[nocturne cape]

Not attacking the translator ofc

[inland elbow]

d12 you got this bro

[nocturne cape]

And i know mei sort of transcribed it from a video

[inland elbow]

I'd probably refresh the top encounter to see if it turns into a combat

[ionic bridge]

Hell yeah

[nocturne cape]

Like it mentions a bunch of mechanics sure

Very detailed too

But it doesnt offer a lot of advice gameplay wise

[chrome tangle]

why did they give this to chain medics as well

[gaunt bay]

REAL

[nocturne cape]

I guess it makes sense tho

[chrome tangle]

does it make sense if u didnt make sense of it

[gaunt bay]

so its just advertisment

realmad

[nocturne cape]

That guide was clearly made as an ad

[chrome tangle]

[gaunt bay]

thats so real dude

i read that shit and was like "so how play"

feels like a huge chunk was just missing

[inland elbow]

nice, if you don't have the double refresh relic I'd refresh bottom as well just to see

[nocturne cape]

WDYM SPECIAL SQUAD

[inland elbow]

lmao

[gaunt bay]

is this MTL

[nocturne cape]

They renamed my baby

[chrome tangle]

wasnt it something else

[nocturne cape]

I cant believe it

Its Gathering

[chrome tangle]

yea

its been like that

since IS1

no?

[gaunt bay]

special squad

:icant:

cube youre special

[inland elbow]

I'd say something but it'd get me muted

[chrome tangle]

were you gonna wish earthquakes

onto yostar

has anyone checked out #1450361478736646265 message

[winged kelp]

Leizi starter on IS6 good?

[nocturne cape]

Uhh for gvg yeah shes the best e2 starter

If you wanna start her e1 its prob doable too but idk how good it is

[urban isle]

Trying e1 starter on is 3

It manageable

Leaking 1 or 2 is kinda mandatory tho

Even with near perfect s1 timing

[winged kelp]

Golden chalice. Ingot 11. Floor 4.

[ionic kestrel]

rob shop

[hasty galleon]

Looks fair…

[neat egret]

Floor 5, rob the shop or go for the possibility

[hazy orchid]

Question, after getting exualter which specialist do you pick next assuming you have the hope?

[winged kelp]

Ela imo.

Could be Yato or Ascalon

[gaunt bay]

What IS

[woeful anchor]

diff IS have diff meta

it depends™

[sick mason]

IS6 gonna be dominated with Raidian truly

But honestly, I know why people never wanted to ban her

[obsidian haven]

it encourages emergent gameplay

[gaunt lichen]

super big cup

[tender chasm]

when mental toil yellow, is tragodia cat also will get more expensive?

[errant siren]

Summons included, so yes, cat will be more expensive too.

[heady lantern]

How to play is6

[rare oar]

wait for it to release is the first step

[errant siren]

Same shit like any IS prior to IS3 and onwards with vertical pathing

[heady lantern]

Do we have blueprint

[rare oar]

no vertical pathing? wild

[errant siren]

Only Bosky part will be special

[errant siren]

There is.

I'm sorry for my poor Eng.

[rare oar]

my bad, didnt see the edit.

[errant siren]

No. Neither we have Node Reroll, expect one part.

You have a coin that allows that doing one time.

[rare oar]

Cannot doesn't run the shop

it's so over

day ruined

IS6 is a shame

[somber stream]

Cannot cannot run the shop, I guess.

[errant siren]

In normal floors, he still runs the shop

[rare oar]

oh thank goodness

my man lives

[gaunt lichen]

its a new shop style bro

[errant siren]

But in Bosky, Yi will offer the goods.

[gaunt bay]

theres a new shop

lmao

[errant siren]

And he wants new currency

[gaunt bay]

cannot is still selling

[errant siren]

YOUR BLOOD

[gaunt bay]

he vants to suck your blood

[errant siren]

(BaseHP)

[somber stream]

[gaunt bay]

idk what the lore is bruh

why does bro take base hp

[errant siren]

My Roguelike cannot be The Binding of Issac...

[somber stream]

Cannot decided to be a vampire?

[errant siren]

😭

[gaunt bay]

different guy

cannot still sells in ingots

[errant siren]

Yi wants your base life

[somber stream]

Oh.

[heady lantern]

Oh wow we can rob shop at f1

Best part is i can just quit

[errant siren]

We still can rob Cannot as always.

(We cannot rob Yi tho)

[heady lantern]

Surely not having leizi wont impact much

[somber stream]

"Can rob" as in it can be beaten easily, or just that can?

[errant siren]

Possibility

Difficulty? Differs.

[somber stream]

[errant siren]

So far saw F1-F3 pretty easy.

With Raidian carry alone.

Didn't saw F4 onwards version, tho.

[rare oar]

since Yan ops are great for this IS what 4 or 5 stars are worth building?

[sinful sparrow]

?

[rare oar]

and I'm assuming most of the 6* yan ops are useful, new leizi, the sui, etc

[rare oar]

your confusion would be cleared up if you did the very hard task of reading.

[errant siren]

From 4☆ it's definitely Purestream

Just because she's Yan and 0 Hope.

[gaunt bay]

windscoot luoxiaohei

[errant siren]

By same reason

[gaunt bay]

Deiknights

[remote badger]

just get 4 yan ops

ur job is done

[woeful anchor]

draft luo

very cute

windscoot cute too ig but luo cuter 🗣️

[woeful anchor]

exu alter is yan

how broken

[final gale]

i wanna trash luo but remembering his jp va ill let it slide and actually join in... yeh he is cute

[gaunt bay]

Surrounded by gays and gooners

Much overlap between the two as well

[somber stream]

How? I saw on a picture that Texalt is considered too? I don't know if she is.

I don't know where I saw that picture actually.

I don't know where I got this from. Maybe subreddit.

[rare oar]

Aak????? in the year of our lord 2025?????

[somber stream]

I don't know Chinese. My translator says "Flame Force Operators". "Organizations such as Penguin Logistics and Lungmen Guard are included in Frost forces".

[steel relic]

Because of the game’s janky faction system

Anything that falls under Lungmen, because it’s Yan-Lungmen, counts

[rare oar]

sweet

[steel relic]

Which means shit like Penguin, LGD, Lee’s agency

[somber stream]

Crazy.

[gaunt bay]

Tbf lda is fair

They operate pretty much only in lungmen anyways

[final gale]

should i be excited in is6 with my m6 entel?

[errant siren]

Should. There's plenty of Invitation to Wine enemies.

[cinder hamlet]

Can we talk about how some parts of IS6 pv are different from CN ver and EN ver

[nocturne cape]

I actually know the lore behind this

If you go to the official bilibili video now its the same with EN

because people actually attempted to dial the number

[cinder hamlet]

People thought this was an ARG?

[nocturne cape]

Something like that

[nocturne cape]

Shes gonna be great im ready

But yeah its the same now

They made it so that no one will try to call the number

[errant siren]

Bruh, about to dial this number

And tell Yostar

[robust grail]

oh hey they did localise the video

[errant siren]

"Where is my compensation"

[robust grail]

EN won't get it tho

Chinese dreamcore

[ionic kestrel]

entel skin soon

[hallow vale]

😋

[nocturne cape]

Surely

[unkempt lion]

Is Shalem decent in is3 or nah?

[paper notch]

wouldnt call shalem decent in general

[inland elbow]

Shalem is not good

[sinful sparrow]

hello mr Bait

[inland elbow]

Hello mika

[errant siren]

Shalem is shit everywhere tbh.

[woeful scaffold]

How to rob cannot in IS5

[brazen mesa]

Does anyone remember the minimum Difficulty level
To get the highest tier Squad medal for each squad in IS5
It's just been a hot minute and I forgor

[pastel saffron]

how u know this

also should I get entel mod if I wan use her in IS6

and M6 angle?

[ionic kestrel]

mod3 yes

[ionic kestrel]

s2 more useful

but yeah

[pastel saffron]

the go to frd to use with it is? waifu?

idk what frd we get in is6

[robust grail]

https://is-central.github.io/is5-sarkaz/stages/narrative-offer/

[crimson nest]

12

[abstract marsh]

vaporwave ahh commercial

[arctic panther]

it turned into the mandela catalogue by the end

[wary zodiac]

How hard will it be to bring whole ave mujica squad to is?

[inland elbow]

Bad

[spring olive]

alr guys i have the insta m3 for a skill ticket that i can use on a 5*, should I lowkey use it on Amiya S2 or is there someone else in the 5 star category that's more worth it

[abstract marsh]

the scrimblo files

[abstract marsh]

that questions suits better for #help
also depends on who you have and who you already gave m3

people use krooster to share that kind of info

[spring olive]

um the thing is i alrd asked that question on #help and literally i kid u not the guy told me to ask this question here in IS station

[abstract marsh]

just a regular day in ako

[spring olive]

maybe bcs i put in closed brackets (moreso for IS stuff)

[abstract marsh]

well

[spring olive]

...

[abstract marsh]

for now save it

[spring olive]

i mean tbf i'll just proceed to m3 medicmiya s2 then cuz technically thats what ppl been telling me

[abstract marsh]

it won't expire

[spring olive]

i have 2 of them

i mean i could also just save em but like...

[abstract marsh]

also make a krooster acc

[spring olive]

yea idk actually

[abstract marsh]

so you can share your profile

[spring olive]

yknow what

i'll try doing that

[abstract marsh]

eventually someone will point out "oh yea you need this x mastery asap for IS"

[ionic kestrel]

it was asked in context of is5

he just here to confirm

[abstract marsh]

yeah there's no problem in asking here, redirected to #help for chances of getting an answer faster since there's more people there

[spring olive]

wait how do i use this website

do i just like enter the stuff like manually type shi?

[ionic kestrel]

your mail

and code you recieve

simple

it has import feature

[spring olive]

aight im tryin to do that

https://www.krooster.com/u/mk somethin like this yea?

[errant siren]

Yes

[ionic kestrel]

wtf no tragussy mastery

[silk crypt]

Okay this is gonna be a tough one

IS3, doing the Ishar'mla ending

On difficulty 3 (I'm not gonna suffer extra)

But I got Metastatic Aberration (The ruthless stat checker) so everyone's probably gonna implode

ANd I gotta do Ishar'mla without anyone retreating

Oh, but King's Collectibles active

[errant siren]

So you're on exact 1 BaseHP?

[silk crypt]

Yes

With 8 shield

[errant siren]

Nice

But Metastatic not great

[ionic kestrel]

which rejection?

[silk crypt]

Yeah... Getting Stat Checked with the Anti Stat Check rejection will be tough

[errant siren]

Also summons death fucks up the condition too

[ionic kestrel]

nd who is afflicted?

[errant siren]

1/2 stat permanently.

[silk crypt]

The "Half every stat" rejection

Do summons also count to the challenge?

Because it's "Allow no operators to be retreated"

So I thought Mon3tr and Cat That Explodes would not count towards it

Also... Is Ulpianus' S3 coded as a retreat or just redeploy?

[errant siren]

Yes, if they die - no Note 3 for you. Even if was written "operators" for some reason.

[silk crypt]

There goes my Tragodia plan

[errant siren]

Dunno. Would be better to not check.

[silk crypt]

And Ray's sandbeast...

And Wis'adel's shadows

[errant siren]

Yes

[silk crypt]

Man, what a bitch

[errant siren]

I wouldn't rather use those two either.

[silk crypt]

Then I have no team at all

[errant siren]

Forget about Note 3 at all then.

[silk crypt]

Or well. Ulpianus S2 with Gladiia somewhere and Eyjaberry supporting

could maybe stall? unsure?

[errant siren]

Concentrate on killing Skadi.

[errant siren]

There's one issue.

[silk crypt]

I'd say "logos my DPS" but his Everything is halved

[errant siren]

Worm does True damage.

[somber stream]

I'm pretty sure Wis'adel would nuke the Leviathan before anyone or anything needs to retreat.

[errant siren]

Gladiia wont help him.

[silk crypt]

I know it does. Ulpianus has no defense anyways so any damage is true damage

It's more for the regen

I don't believe I can pull Skadi into a hole here, can I

[spring olive]

still workin on that one m8

[errant siren]

You can.

[silk crypt]

I do have the -1 weight item, but no Angelina

[somber stream]

What diff is this?

[errant siren]

She's fucking fat tho.

[silk crypt]

Difficulty 3

[somber stream]

Bruh.

Hnm...

[errant siren]

He can even kill her easily.

Like no prob.

[silk crypt]

I also have no pushers. Only Gladiia here. And I can't pull her into holes in the edge of the map

There's two holes and both of those are Push holes

[somber stream]

Wis'adel, even with half stat, should be able to kill Leviathan no prob.

[silk crypt]

Trag S3... Doesn't summon jack, right?

Like. Cages aren't considered Summons

Is Ines' sword in the ground considered a summon? Oh, dumb question. To spawn it, Ines has to retreat, and I can't afford that

I was also thinking "Ray can probably nuke the boss immediately" but not being allowed to use the sandbeast...

[somber stream]

Just put Wis'adel down and see if she one-shots Skadi.

If she does, that stage and lore requirement is solved easy.

The enemies take a rather long time to get to the blue boxes anyway.

[silk crypt]

Alright, going in

I hate IS3 so much I want to be done

[somber stream]

You chose a lot of tricky operators for the lore requirement.

[silk crypt]

Do I wait for worm phase or do I just nuke

immediately

[somber stream]

Nuke.

[silk crypt]

Oh she's gone

[somber stream]

Who? Wis?

Fraudadel?

[silk crypt]

No, Skadi 🙂

[somber stream]

[silk crypt]

Now to let Fraud'adel's summons not die

I feel tempted to retreat Ulpianus (Who's not doing anything) but then The Conditions

I'm slightly intimidated by the Flying Fuckers but if they spawn it's near stage end I can probably kill them with something

[inland elbow]

picks a bunch of ops with summons for the no retreat condition

"Fucking is3"

[chrome tangle]

u have to understand

balls are not real

[silk crypt]

IT SAID NO RETREAT OPERATORS! I HAD NO CLUE IT ALSO MEANT NO SUMMONS

[chrome tangle]

the text do be like that

[silk crypt]

Okay complete

Without retreats

A Ray was required for one single unorthodox enemy placement

Complete, get fuuuuuu

I'm not doing that again

Level 153 on the pass

One regional commission away from finishing the medal set

THIS close to never playing it again

[chrome tangle]

bad ending

you should go back even after finishing the levels

[silk crypt]

What for

[chrome tangle]

for fun

[silk crypt]

All items?

[gaunt bay]

Remember, everything is categorized in a fashion designed to screw you over the most

[silk crypt]

oH NO

[chrome tangle]

oooh all items

[silk crypt]

If I want fun I'm taking another IS

[chrome tangle]

would be goated

do you have the Puzzle

[silk crypt]

What Puzzle

[chrome tangle]

this puzzle

[silk crypt]

I don't think so

Anyways, IS3 is the one I dislike the most, so I'll finish the pass, the medal set, and never touch it again

I've already finished IS2

[chrome tangle]

and fins

[silk crypt]

And IS5 is near complete

[chrome tangle]

you can only get this one from rolling 7+ in shops

puzzle requiring two encounters

[silk crypt]

I'm also not doing all the side squads somewhere around there

[chrome tangle]

smh not completeing IS3

[silk crypt]

If I want a single tier 3 mat I'll do it but I don't

[neat egret]

Possibility or rob the store?

[spring olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdkRov9duxQ&t=1238s is this good take for the upcoming IS?

[paper notch]

wtf

sash2 prama2 slop

[halcyon flame]

Pram2 is real for left side ed2

Dunno about sash2

[paper notch]

i dont think that's what he is arguing tho 😭

but ye i see the vision for ed2

[halcyon flame]

Oh I didn’t watch the video I just assume it’s not correct

[neat egret]

Go for possibility or rob store?

[robust grail]

that is a very vague question

so the answer is a very vague "it depends"

what is your current gamestate and what endings are you going for?

[neat egret]

I posted an image earlier in the chat

[arctic panther]

rob

[arctic panther]

rob

[paper notch]

you got chalice so might as well go for rob

[open finch]

No way my strategy guy

[sonic sable]

Should i m9 leizi?

[gaunt bay]

If you want to

M6 (2+3) works

[sonic sable]

I think s3 is too restrictivr so i just m6ed

[gaunt bay]

1 isnt very good in terms of actual usecase

Its just for when turbo relics

[boreal island]

In which IS do spec casters suck the least. Specifically, casters.

[gaunt bay]

Specialists are broken

Casters are shit

Speccast still broken

Cuz specs are broken++

[boreal island]

But I can still win with just casters if I highrolling

[gaunt bay]

Furrilo alter

[boreal island]

No, it's just I'm bored and wanna try something new.

[nocturne cape]

while I think this list is mostly accurate, I feel like there are a lot of things that are there for the wrong reasonsing

[inland elbow]

I'll trust a youtubers opinion when they show their gameplay in tournaments

[nocturne cape]

for example, they mentioned Swire alter and Gnosis on there but didn't really provide a good reasoning for why they're on there, when we don't even have their IS module yet, Swire got hers with Hoshi atler and Gnosis' won't be here until like 5 months later, so it's especially weird to see them on there.

which is especially suspicious when they say that they made the list with current EN roster in mind

Swire alter is not usable without her IS mod

[gaunt bay]

They are jack tier

Just parrots

[muted skiff]

11 sp cost for a aoe power strikes

Scale good when you have pasta + sp Regen relic

[gaunt bay]

Relic dependent skill

Yawn emoji

[muted skiff]

But again , would you ditch 2 big skill for s1 just to do powerstrike

[nocturne cape]

Its still a good skill tho

I like using it

[gaunt bay]

Didnt you make the emoji “i wish that were me”

[nocturne cape]

Uhhh

[gaunt bay]

Methinks ur just simp

[muted skiff]

Archetto s1 and s2 is also same case

[nocturne cape]

It was not me

[open finch]

Archetto broken operator?

[muted skiff]

Ya man

[nocturne cape]

I posted the image and someone else added it to the stickers

[muted skiff]

It charge hoshi2 skill 2

Must be very good operator

[nocturne cape]

[muted skiff]

[severe oasis]

@gaunt bay

[nocturne cape]

Hoshi2 skill2 with archetto is giga bait

[open finch]

Why can't archetto IS module apply to normal stages

Actually goated for afk

[muted skiff]

🙏

[gaunt bay]

Im getting u

Cutie

[severe oasis]

you're my cat

[nocturne cape]

Omg i can charge my thorns now

Noway

[open finch]

thongs in the big 25

[nocturne cape]

Hes better than sakiko i promise

[open finch]

Surely

Permanent skill 3x4 range broken

[muted skiff]

Nom nom nom

[gaunt bay]

He has self regen bro

Brokeb

[open finch]

Does that mean pallas is broken too

Laneholder and self heal

[nocturne cape]

Even better

Look

[open finch]

Crazy

[nocturne cape]

You can even do nervous impairment

[gaunt bay]

Yup

Thorns wins against 10k defense

[muted skiff]

Wait I give you a better one

[gaunt bay]

Broken bro

[muted skiff]

Exe s2

He dodge , self Regen true aoe

[gaunt bay]

Thorns known amiya dps

[muted skiff]

[open finch]

True aoe sounds better than single target to me

Broken

[abstract marsh]

the more the better

[unkempt lion]

Is is4 known to give a trillion defenders? It's my fourth run and I've been forced to pick 5 defenders in a row everytime lol

[chrome tangle]

How about Kirara S2

Even better

[muted skiff]

Doesn't gain benefit from archetto

Bad

[chrome tangle]

S1

Is Offensive

[nocturne cape]

But her S1 does nothing but damage

[chrome tangle]

She can stand there

And be cute

[nocturne cape]

Can thorns and exes not just stand there and be adorable?

[chrome tangle]

They have penises

So no

[nocturne cape]

Your point?

L take

[chrome tangle]

Penis havers cannot be cute

Im sorry cube

You arent cute 😔

[gaunt bay]

Cube is cute

[nocturne cape]

this isnt about me

its about thorns and exe

[gaunt bay]

Ok but ur cute as well

[nocturne cape]

thanks kiwi

[gaunt bay]

[muted skiff]

Buddy birb wants kirara to be in every tierlist's top , doesn't matter if it's a good one or not

[nocturne cape]

but i am not the subject of this conversation

[chrome tangle]

Every tierlist is bad

April watchu mean

You know this

[muted skiff]

No way

[chrome tangle]

Where is Weedy in IS5 and IS6 tierlists

[muted skiff]

Kermit lied to me

[chrome tangle]

😔

[nocturne cape]

pretty sure weedy is ok in spec cast is5

like

just ok

[muted skiff]

She pushes quilon into phase 3 hole

Instant kill !

[chrome tangle]

So top tier !

[gaunt bay]

world's most expensive quilon solve

10 hope and 2 spec tickets

[chrome tangle]

Just weedy solo

[nocturne cape]

i would happily pay 10 hope and 2 spec if i can solve quilon with that

🫡

but iirc weedy is mostly just a laneholder

[gaunt bay]

what weight is quilon anyways

no shot that works

isnt the fucker like 10 weight

[nocturne cape]

like 9

or 10

i forgot

[muted skiff]

We have +2 force thoughts , -2 weight relic , ange -2

[nocturne cape]

its 9

[gaunt bay]

lose rnf and draft ange

20 hope 2 spec 2 sup

🥀

• "just get [relic]"

[muted skiff]

E1 nymph rng

[gaunt bay]

does trag s2 lure not work

[muted skiff]

You can't place cat there

You have to make him walk nearby

[rare oar]

why is kroos alter so highly rated for IS and which of her skills is better?

[gaunt lichen]

s2, she has decent dps but most importantly she has microstuns

[cold fjord]

proof?

microstuns when enemy is stun immune

😢

[gaunt lichen]

😔

[cold fjord]

fibs biggest enemy

[obsidian haven]

fibs?

[gaunt lichen]

telling fibs

[nocturne cape]

fibs