is-station

[chrome tangle]

where is haruka

😔

[nocturne cape]

and ill tell you on jan 16

]

[gaunt bay]

its gonna be so funny when rose doesnt get her

[chrome tangle]

can't you tell us right now

💢

[severe oasis]

I AM GOING TO GET HER

[chrome tangle]

you are not

it is destined

[nocturne cape]

this guide goes up to D10

shes still pretty good there

[gaunt bay]

d10

bruh

bruh

[chrome tangle]

d10

[gaunt bay]

bruh

[chrome tangle]

bruh

[severe oasis]

d10

bruh

[chrome tangle]

this guide is useless then

[gaunt bay]

mf finna shill tinman is5

top specialist

[chrome tangle]

cube did do that

[gaunt bay]

texas broken is3 yup

[chrome tangle]

I think Cube also used Thorns E2 to open IS2 D15

[nocturne cape]

ok but tinman is good

[gaunt bay]

hes dead in 18 icl

[severe oasis]

bro is not going to make me get 6 specialist vouchers

[chrome tangle]

ok but like

you should always be getting 12 of ur class vouchers

[nocturne cape]

your idol Eyanx still drafts him from time to time

[chrome tangle]

who dat

[gaunt bay]

"my idol" and its mei's sensei

[chrome tangle]

does Eyanx also like men

[gaunt bay]

hes vgg suh2a shill

is5 slopper

he plays talons vgg mly exu ulpi m3 now

[severe oasis]

what is this

is this real

[gaunt bay]

idk bro

[nocturne cape]

i dont think he drafts mlynar anymore

its leizi now

[gaunt bay]

so why vgg

[severe oasis]

leizi>mlynar confirmed

?

wow!

[gaunt bay]

mly is explicitly better in 5 from what ive heard from others

aside from shop rob

but leizi works better in that comp cuz ulpi does aggro control already

[gaunt bay]

wait so whats the opener

dude that team comp is so schizo anyways

[nocturne cape]

sakiko or SA

[flint token]

Hoe e2 opener

[woeful anchor]

mei known silverass simp

[next matrix]

In IS5 I heard you were supposed to avoid a specific number (adding up) when doing false to truth

What's the number? I heard it's inefficient

[flint token]

odd numbers

[nocturne cape]

technically odd numbers but in practice you dont care about it

relics are classified in 3 tiers for false to truth, 2, 4 and 6

[flint token]

holy shit collection squad feels so good

11 plans

[nocturne cape]

its great!

very fun to play too

i love it

[flint token]

i love squirrel

[nocturne cape]

you dont even need to reset for f3 (as much)

[flint token]

it’s great for my ayhd mental illness ass

[chrome tangle]

are both required

[nocturne cape]

thats for IS5

and no

according to eyanx

i never played it tho

[woeful anchor]

how do u not have silverass in the year 2025

[chrome tangle]

he's S3m1

built enough

[loud rain]

I want to get Raidian, but I'm trash at IS and I have never made any ending in the two IS I have been playing (IS4 and IS5). How do I win?

[tacit hollow]

with raidian announced, does that mean is6 is next week?

[woeful anchor]

play more

just like every other skill

u need to practice to get better

[arctic panther]

look directly above raidian’s announcement

[woeful anchor]

need to put in actual effort to improve

[tacit hollow]

oh

I saw the raidian post on fb

[normal creek]

Wanna ask, what 5 stars worth building for upcoming is?

[errant siren]

By learning IS.
Map, relics, encounters, mechanics - everything.

[errant siren]

None?

Concentrate on 4☆.

[tacit hollow]

rose salt (free), agent vanguards as always

weirdly enuf i don't see Ines used as much

[gaunt bay]

6* vanguard too expensive

[nocturne cape]

scroll up

[gaunt bay]

Where hope

[nocturne cape]

IS6 date was the previous annoucement

[gaunt bay]

Rose salt waiifu

[tacit hollow]

hope is gone

[nocturne cape]

right before that

[gaunt bay]

Is6 sucks

[tacit hollow]

yea I alr got answered

[nocturne cape]

heres a list i compiled
https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/low-rarity-recommendations/

[tacit hollow]

I hear ppl don't like is6, why tho?

[nocturne cape]

you get raidian from the literal first node of the reward track

so you dont need to win a game to get her

[loud rain]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-arknights-saga-gif-26509120

[nocturne cape]

however her E2 is locked behind completing D2, you can reference this guide:
https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/

to try to do it yourself, lower diffs shouldn't be too bad with a tragodia borrow

[loud rain]

But, to do her masteries

[nocturne cape]

masteries need D10

[tacit hollow]

DIO?! IS THT A JOJO REFERENCE?

[nocturne cape]

[woeful anchor]

cube shilling trag again

smh

[loud rain]

I always forgot I can borrow ops in IS, but they dissappear after some point right?

[nocturne cape]

nope, you can borrow ops all the way til the highest diff

only your starters tho

🫡

[loud rain]

I mean, in the run

[nocturne cape]

uhh not sure what you meant

you can only borrow operators as your starters

[loud rain]

And it stays for all the run?

[nocturne cape]

yep!

[loud rain]

Ah

[nocturne cape]

so start looking for friends!

[loud rain]

I thought they were only usable for the first floors of the run

[nocturne cape]

no, you can use them for the entire run

no limitation on that

[loud rain]

Ah

That would have made all my IS runs better

[nocturne cape]

[loud rain]

Ugh

Thanks

[errant siren]

You can do it in the very start. During the run, starting from this onwards, you cannot borrow SupportUnit.

[loud rain]

Ah, borrowing a logos would have solved a lot of my runs issues

[tulip patio]

What do I want to keep in mind for the Under The Crown stage? It's my first time reaching it.

[woeful anchor]

bounce ball

oh wait

mb wrong stage

under the crown is ed2?

[errant siren]

Yes, Theresis

[severe oasis]

under the crown is alternate kal/mon f3 stage 🥹

yeah

[errant siren]

Oh wait, nvm

[errant siren]

Ursus Strikers.

[arctic panther]

ed2 is court visit or smth i think

[tulip patio]

So what do I need to keep in mind for this stage?

[errant siren]

Aka RUSSIAN SPACE MARINES.

[arctic panther]

have you fought normal kal before?

[tulip patio]

No.

[errant siren]

Wait, you never fought Kal and Monsta?

[tulip patio]

Nope. I don't even know what stage they're in.

[arctic panther]

they’re one of the normal f3 bosses

kal swaps places with mon2tr ( or in this case evolving monster) when she takes enough damage

thats kinda it honestly

[errant siren]

Monsta goes left side from upper redbox, Kal goes right.

When Kal is 50% HP remaining, cast a spell to switch positions between her and Monsta.

When Monsta dies, explodes like friendly one, Stunning and deals True damage.

Kill them both from afar.

It's quite easy miniboss.

[normal creek]

Btw is modules on low rarity ops needed or no?

[woeful anchor]

the stage plays the same no?

[nocturne cape]

Uhh if explanation mentions mod then theyre generally needed

[errant siren]

He already said he doesn't fought Kal yet.

[nocturne cape]

And any operator that says “E2 recommended”, i wrote them with at least mod1 in mind

[arctic panther]

pretty sure kal goes left

[woeful anchor]

barely any mechanics on boss just try it out

[nocturne cape]

But mod arent always needed, feel free to ask about specific ones

[errant siren]

Thought about the same

[arctic panther]

doesnt really matter either way if they get vaporized immediately

[opaque sand]

Er...I can't tell from reading the wiki atm, did they remove the optional squads that let you start with an e2 unit in Is6?

[woeful anchor]

no

[errant siren]

I guess it still E2.

If "advance" is actually referring to that.

[nocturne cape]

Class squads are all there yes

[abstract marsh]

wdym we arent always needed 🥺

[nocturne cape]

They are slightly nerfed now, -1 hope instead of 2

[nocturne cape]

[errant siren]

It just added special discount for 4 Classes mixed.

[nocturne cape]

Thats not class squad

Its a new type of squad they added, 4 classes get -2 hope on recruit but doesnt have prepromote and shop doesnt give you their vouchers at a higher chance

Old class squads are still there

[sinful sparrow]

@nocturne cape go sleep nerd

[nocturne cape]

Im in bed

And its not that late

[sinful sparrow]

Isn’t it like 1am

fairly late to me :mon3trsmug:

[nocturne cape]

1am is eastern time

Its 10:45 pm

[sinful sparrow]

oh

will keep this in mind

that ur 15 hours away

[low vortex]

gn cube

gm mika

[sinful sparrow]

is 2pm

🥀

[low vortex]

gm mika

[sinful sparrow]

grrrrr

💢

[sonic sable]

Mika

[sinful sparrow]

hi

anyways thanks light

:MintHype:

[low vortex]

thank you.

[sonic sable]

Is6 on 18th

Omggggg

Me happy

[sinful sparrow]

tep

is6 good

is5 slop

[chrome tangle]

mika is slop

[sinful sparrow]

birb is fat

[chrome tangle]

🥀

make a D15+ progression guide thx

cube's sucks

[sinful sparrow]

here’s what you do right

you take raidian exu

and then win

[chrome tangle]

cant take either

[sinful sparrow]

Wtf

🥀

[chrome tangle]

my hands get hives

as soon as i click them

[gaunt bay]

oops all banned

[woeful anchor]

kiwi gonna yap abt bans then mysteriously never post winscreen with those ops banned

🗣️

[stray moss]

rosmo and kal

[weary hamlet]

does the mantle in is2 ending 3 appear only in 1st floor?

[errant siren]

Until end of 3rd Floor.

No encounters until F3 Boss and no Mantle? Restart.

[weary hamlet]

looks like rng is the final boss for ending 3 lol

[errant siren]

End4 the same gacha

Especially they fight each other to get into encounters.

If you skipped End3, you might have End4 next.

And vice versa.

Taking their relic will lock Ending and other Ending one won't appear anymore.

[tardy karma]

First time getting to ED4 and cleared first try!!!

[sinful sparrow]

U went up

[woeful anchor]

right bruh

just look at the atk formula

to see why left sucks

[astral sentinel]

This stage is massive ass

Got heretics from rerolling emergency heretics

Miracle I got it

Ascalon temp mvp

Looks like she's really good for is5

[errant siren]

She is when a lot of hitcount trash.

So it's actually IS6 stuff.

Do you have Ethan btw?

[astral sentinel]

Is5 not so much?

[errant siren]

You'll pick him a lot there.

[astral sentinel]

Yeah but he's a cringe scally

[errant siren]

Bruh.

[stray dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_dc2mfy9kU

incoming

[errant siren]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[stray dove]

I always have a backlog of games so I'll most likely do D12 Ed1-3 for all squads and wait for expansions afterwards

no point doing max diff when D18 ain't unlocked yet

[astral sentinel]

So you have all icons for all squads for all IS iterations?

[stray dove]

the only visual accomplishment i have not gotten in IS2-5 is....

Partial Cecity Paradigm in IS4

fucking rare paradigms smh

the rest, done.

[stray moss]

asked in central

told me to pick left lol

😂

[stray dove]

never ever ignore an SP battery from hitting the most common enemy type.
Devilbane from IS5 and Flames from IS3 are so strong.

almost zero skill downtime is a massive improvement to DPS as well. Let's not ignore how good multiutility skills are with high uptime.

although Liberators don't get anything from that relic and it really is mostly taken advantage by long ranged ops.

[gaunt bay]

who

[stray dove]

must be someone who braindead picks it just because of Wis/Ros without looking at the other option

[woeful anchor]

who

[stray dove]

i mean, does that even work

is it a different discord server?

[stray moss]

yes

[woeful anchor]

idk him

[alpine sparrow]

i think this isnt the first, cause i didnt see "New" tag on the collection menu

anyone knows anything about this?

but i don't remember what it gave before

[errant siren]

Omg, I don't remember what is this

And if I see this at least once.

[stray dove]

all I know is

I've exhausted every non-expansion encounter abusing Doodle Blueprint when IS5 was just released

[errant siren]

Random thought, with a chance to Rare one.

It also has chance to give none.

[alpine sparrow]

well, it's clear that i had only 3 Ingots

i did try once and got nothing

so there's that

[errant siren]

Duck is better

Cause you can fight him

[alpine sparrow]

yes

[errant siren]

I usually gamba to 35

And just

[alpine sparrow]

in fact, think i once fought him twice

[errant siren]

I aint pay

[alpine sparrow]

from the auction thingy

lol

[alpine sparrow]

[alpine sparrow]

in the same run

didnt expect it'd be possible

[rotund copper]

This cg is just peak

[honest void]

Anyone got a strat for the Focused Epic deep exploration is IS5 ? This shit is ridiculously hard

[woeful anchor]

which one is this

[sinful sparrow]

gives you rolling ancestor

and bosses r buffed

[woeful anchor]

isnt that easy just bring nightingale

[dreamy rampart]

how

[errant siren]

It's just bring Kings and that's all.

[errant siren]

Ever heard of Lamp of Wishes?

I guess not, if you're asking this question.

[dreamy rampart]

explain IS vets

[errant siren]

Dunno, I can't read Chinese

Would ask what is bothering you first.

[dreamy rampart]

you can get 900+ collectibles on is6

just wondering how

[errant siren]

Ah, that one

See that Ling Dragon?

[dreamy rampart]

Ok?

[errant siren]

If you have perfect coin pair, you can spam this Gacha Encounter over and over again.

Getting all relics

And at this point game just starts to give you kettles.

+1 Hope and +1 Base HP.

[dreamy rampart]

Oh so 900+ relics are all just kettles

[errant siren]

700

[dreamy rampart]

mostly kettles

i'm guessing its a bug that'll get patched on global release

[errant siren]

Imma about to find out this strat myself

[errant siren]

Should not be a bug.

Just a slight convenient cheeze.

Like Lamp of Wishes.

You need to get this coin combo first which is RNG part.

[remote badger]

its not even a bug im ngl

[pastel saffron]

will this stay pinned btw, the IS5 part? or yall will remove it when IS5 becomes old

[steel relic]

Not a bug but they did make the Ling version of the node significantly more rare shortly after release on CN

[errant siren]

[burnt lantern]

I saw a post on most used op in IS6. Shu & Yu is there, but Hoshi2 is not on the list.
I understnand why Shu is there, but Yu over Hoshi2?

[remote badger]

no fucking idea

time to pull up cube-

[steel relic]

I don’t think there’s any real use case for Yu over Hoshi

Just the usual low diff players doing whatever works

Hoshi follows after all those really powerful banners we just had too so I would assume she’s just less owned among players

[gaunt bay]

there is not

theres penance usage!

[steel relic]

God bless

[gaunt bay]

still kinda copey but it exists

yu is ew

[steel relic]

Can’t wait for Nasti to come out so I can make Penance the best crusher in game

[stray moss]

erm

[stray moss]

real

[remote badger]

yes

[stray moss]

ive built him and used him like 2 times ro clear something

[steel relic]

Non fib approved message

[pastel saffron]

Yu S3 drone caster shenanigan is famour

famous

[abstract marsh]

@stray moss
@sinful sparrow
Please refrain from using inappropriate language and derailing the chat into off topic

[astral sentinel]

Glory to Pepistan

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-アークナイツ-ペペ-佩佩-ダンス-gif-4508209718756132572

[solemn beacon]

Just use gummy instead

[steel relic]

[woeful anchor]

there is an encounter where u can get infinite relics/life point

imagine the gambling node except u get more ingot than u spend

so u can just go infinite

theres an encounter like that in is6 but they patched it already

[gaunt bay]

700 of them are hot water kettle

[woeful anchor]

so no more infinite

[errant siren]

Wait it's not achievable anymore?

Bummer.

[woeful anchor]

not in CN

[errant siren]

Wanted to milk Ling so hard.

[woeful anchor]

idk abt EN if they will patch it in on release

or later

[paper notch]

i have low expectations for yostar

[errant siren]

I think they will comes patched tho

But who knows

After Ulpipi banner, cannot believe in everything

[steel relic]

Did they patch it again

I thought cube said it was still possible but way harder to achieve

[somber stream]

They patched it?

[hasty galleon]

What

[errant siren]

The resources.

[solemn beacon]

[cold fjord]

nope

Its not patched

the only thing they did is reduce the chance of the ling node

[prime mountain]

So its still there just giga rare chance of insta win?

[cold fjord]

well its not that easy

because you need the setup to go infinite first

but yes
you can still do it

[nocturne cape]

First of all ling node isn't “giga rare”

After the nerf I still see it once per like 7-8 games

[cold fjord]

yeah its like 1/10 chance pretty much

[prime mountain]

So same rate as lamp, got it

[nocturne cape]

But yeah you still need a decent amount of setup to pull it off

It's actually easier if you do it on D7+

But not D15

[prime mountain]

Oh thats nice for the people struggling to get maxed out radian they can just pray for that setup.

[nocturne cape]

D15 requires more setup

While that is true

Personally I find hunting for ling downtime extremely boring

Cuz you might need to play through 4 floors before realizing there's no ling in the bosky

[prime mountain]

Arknights players will do anything except play the game though

You just know some people will do nothing but pray for that setup

[gaunt bay]

Hi cube

[nocturne cape]

Hi kiwi

[gaunt bay]

Hows ur day

Er

Morning

Ur in my timezone i think

[gaunt bay]

How does that help with radian quests

Or do you mean “yeah just :resource: on d10”

[prime mountain]

Yeah that

[gaunt bay]

🥹

[prime mountain]

Simply all your runs

[errant siren]

Where win button

https://tenor.com/view/lomka-insideout-ломка-brainrot-gif-9605287597572875495

[steel relic]

You know this because you are those people?

[prime mountain]

[woeful anchor]

wat

ive been lied to

wtf

[gaunt bay]

Misinfo

[remote badger]

lol

[errant siren]

18th will settle all wrongdoings.

[narrow cosmos]

Got breakfasted

[arctic panther]

is that is7

[narrow cosmos]

Yes

[silk crypt]

To the SOB who gave me -70% healing effectiveness on the final floor of the Stella Caerula ending, I hope you get ball cancer

[astral sentinel]

Bruh 65 collectibles and I didn't even go f6

Idk how

[steel relic]

Collection squad

[astral sentinel]

Right

Collection squad specialises in collecting collectibles

[somber stream]

Erm, this is a gacha game, what's a gacha game if there's no gacha for game?

[silk crypt]

I'm here on IS3 level 144

And 28/30 special commissions

I am THIS CLOSE to never playing IS3 again

[somber stream]

[astral sentinel]

Is3 is the best

[silk crypt]

Hard disagree but to each their own

Good things about IS3 in my opinion:

• It doesn't have Kaz Falls emergency node

that's about it

[somber stream]

It has OOC, though.

[prime mountain]

OOC with modern units isnt that bad just tragodia it

[silk crypt]

Out of Character?

[somber stream]

Skipped Tragodia.

[prime mountain]

!?

[silk crypt]

Have Tragodia, been borrowing Tragodia, currently raising Tragodia (The run I just lost on account of -70% healing on Izumik allowed me enough LMD to finish maxing Yu (who I was working on) so now I get to raise the french)

[remote badger]

out of control

known piss stage

[silk crypt]

Ah yeah OOC is pretty bad. Fortunately Wis'adel can reach splendidly with S3, and Tragodia makes it easier too

[remote badger]

much pisser on d18

[silk crypt]

Just requires... A lot of planning

I play on D7 because I greatly dislike IS3

Not gonna kick myself in the balls any more than I need to

[steel relic]

D16 was kinda vibes tbh

[somber stream]

Anything below D... 12? And Texalt trivializes every stage in IS3, though.

[steel relic]

Though I just did ed1 and will not go on to d17

[silk crypt]

IS2 was piss easy, not necessarily fun
IS3 isn't necessarily easy, but I don't find it fun. At all. Yesterday I got a great collectible on Wish Fulfilled, The Thing happened, I rerolled, and The Thing happened again.
IS4, haven't played enough to tell. I've heard it's hard as fuck but it's not IS3
IS5 is... Extremely malleable. I've played less after expansion 2 (Didn't yet stab Buddha or the omnicidal rabbit)
IS6... I'll see. I wanna get Raidian

[woeful anchor]

is2 is not piss easy tho

u just didnt play high diff

[silk crypt]

Well while I was clearing up all battle pass rewards it was easy

[woeful anchor]

thats like saying hitless phanteon 1 is easy (its slop)

🚬

[silk crypt]

Though integrated lookback was not up yet

Half Normal half Hard mode because cutting my ankles off with less combat XP sucks

[remote badger]

resources management issues

[silk crypt]

Resource Management is Reclamation Algorithm

(Which I'm also not the best at)

[steel relic]

Is2 difficulties are just bad

[silk crypt]

Bad as in "not difficult enough", "Artificial difficulty", "Not challenging", "Immediately kills you upon starting a game" or what

[remote badger]

its also exists in roguelikes for some reason

[steel relic]

2 and 4

[somber stream]

IS4 imo is only hard because boss alter randomly decide you're not winning. Otherwise, it's simple enough. Well, the F6 (ed4?) boss fight is very tricky anyway. Ending 3... I guess all the endings except ending 1 can screw you over if you don't know, but when you do know, it's doable with not too much RNG except alter or not.

[steel relic]

Ed4 alter doesn’t really change anything iirc

A couple corrosion archers and that’s it

[remote badger]

3 is genuinely harder than 4

[steel relic]

Sentinel is just CBT, ICI is whatever these days and idk about hollow visage

[somber stream]

4 demands micro(?), I don't like micro.

I can't keep count fr.

[remote badger]

ed3

[somber stream]

For ending 3, I just react to the boss appearing in a spot. I don't pay attention to much else.

[remote badger]

beloved 5s/10s dmg window

[somber stream]

Yeah, I didn't even win against alter for ed3.

Alter for ed4, I think I won, or at least was close to winning at D15...

So I guess I could agree ed3a is hardest, but I'm normal, I didn't consider alter.

[round trellis]

Sentinel moment

[shadow blaze]

Whats the best starter on is4?

Sniper squad + instsnt wisadel?

[nocturne cape]

Exu2

[shadow blaze]

So caster + specialist squad and instsnt exu2?

[gaunt lichen]

imo the most stable is eternal hunting + exu2 start

you get zero collapse

hope economy kind of sucks

but its 2025, u dont rly need to draft many ops to beat is4

[somber stream]

It's about to be 2026 fr.

[gaunt lichen]

[shadow blaze]

Fair, you just have to be lucky enough to get extra hope at the start

[gaunt lichen]

sure it can be annoying but you're most likely going to get extra hope

kettle or just straight up +2 hope

pretty common occurance

[shadow blaze]

What about other IS? I only know is3 best starter used to be human + gavialt

[gaunt lichen]

also exu alter

they're all exu alter

lol

[somber stream]

(Before exu2, my preferred starter was Popukar Krooster and Lava.)

[shadow blaze]

[gaunt lichen]

even if it isnt exu alter

starting with exu alter isnt gonna do u any harm

¯_(ツ)_/¯

so its exu alter

[somber stream]

Oh, for IS3...

[shadow blaze]

For which? Is3?

[somber stream]

IS4.

[shadow blaze]

Okay Thanks

[winged kelp]

How does Human works again? I forgor

Does it affect only surrounding the chosen node or all the way connected to the end

[gaunt lichen]

nodes immediately connected to the selected node

[shadow blaze]

Does it works well? And which squad

I wanna try

[winged kelp]

Oh.. so only the surrounding right?

[somber stream]

It surpisingly works well for IS4, for any squad.

[steel relic]

Anything connected front and back, but not vertically

[errant siren]

Yes, minus vertical.

[somber stream]

Just gotta get a strong six-star afterward too. For me, the 3-star squad is mainly spice for me who tried going through all endings all squads badges.

[shadow blaze]

Whats a 3 star squad

[somber stream]

Popukar, Kroos, and Lava.

[steel relic]

Spot

Not Popukar

[somber stream]

Wait...

What?

I forgor.

Aintnoway, I remember using Popukar...

[steel relic]

Spot Kroos Lava clears every f1 normal mode fight

There is no guard sniper caster starting ticket lineup

[shadow blaze]

This is kroos2 right?

[somber stream]

That's b*******.

[steel relic]

No

Kroos original

[shadow blaze]

Up to highest difficulty?

Cool

[steel relic]

Yes even at d15

[somber stream]

Damn. I was wrong, you're right.

[steel relic]

It’s primarily just for placing your bets on getting a good voucher from the first fight for a 6* to start doing the real work

[somber stream]

I guess the Popukar I was remembering was from starting with Reedalt.

[steel relic]

In case you didn’t get a hope bonus start for any non class squad

I know supporter used to just spell a dead run but Tragodia probably solves that now so defender might be the only bad one left

[shadow blaze]

Is thorns still good on is4?

[steel relic]

No

[somber stream]

According to popularity, yes?

No.

[inland elbow]

he was never good

[shadow blaze]

who shld i take from guards then? do i just skip the guard voucher entirely ( lmao old ops only)

[somber stream]

Explain this, then. Checkmate.

[inland elbow]

I'd just skip unless the rest of your roster also looks like it came out of 2022

[prime mountain]

Bad players are bad, breaking news

[somber stream]

Nuh uh.

[shadow blaze]

Mostly yeah, except probably yatotexas and ela

[inland elbow]

speccast borrow exu alter start

[shadow blaze]

[somber stream]

No Mlynar or alternative (Degen/LeiziAlt), so no one?

[urban isle]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-gif-14887144685173519659

[shadow blaze]

What quitting at 2023 does to a man on gacha games

[somber stream]

Qiu Bai can be picked in IS5. (ignore Ethan)

Typo.

[shadow blaze]

Why? Does is5 require alot of ccs?

[somber stream]

No. Just one.

[steel relic]

Loosest definition of “can be” known to man

[somber stream]

Shh.

[steel relic]

There’s one boss that’s a massive pain in the ass and she’s just the least viable usable option to deal with him

[prime mountain]

Just hope he has her m9 and we chill

(he doesnt)

[shadow blaze]

Which skill do you need? All3?

[prime mountain]

All 3 depending on relics depending on map

[shadow blaze]

[somber stream]

We just gotta ignore a certain person with a yoyo, and she's up there. Should be.

[prime mountain]

Does yoyo guy also do damage? nuh uh!

[shadow blaze]

Who?

[prime mountain]

Ok granted you need like bloodbath + that one anti collapsal relic to make her work

[somber stream]

Or ASPD.

[shadow blaze]

Which boss though

[somber stream]

IS5 ed4, buddha(?).

[shadow blaze]

[somber stream]

Though, if I were to be serious, she's a bit on the luxurious side for CC. Yoyo Dude is just better than her.

But I can at least say she help there.

[shadow blaze]

Does ethan need promotion or e1 lv60 works fine even at D15?

[somber stream]

I think he needs promotion... And mod.

[paper notch]

s2m3 mod3

[shadow blaze]

Is he worth the investment?

Do you need to get p6 from red cert too?

Or p2 works just fine?

[somber stream]

My Ethan is P1. So, no.

I just checked, those ups don't really change anything for him.

[steel relic]

You guys don’t p6 your welfares?

[shadow blaze]

I love stocking up my red certs

[tame crescent]

Is there a cooldown for these kinds of artifacts or do they just keep activating as long as their conditions are met?

[errant siren]

This one gets refreshed, if I correctly remember.

[prime mountain]

Bro how are you supposed to do em motorised squad with suffering and minimiya 💀

Expansion stages are so ass

[low vortex]

Suffers and Cadence name a better couple

Maybe Epochal Oddities

[prime mountain]

And ranged enemies + 2 mortars at the same time like how the fuck

I had temp nightingale with +50% atk and +40 aspd on deploy she still just got one shot

😭

[steel relic]

That’s because you brought the arts healer to deal with physical damage

[chrome tangle]

Shining our beloved

Fr fr

[gaunt bay]

Suffering cadence is just shit in general

Bonus points for ylis

Yall ever hit the ylis sufferings cadence freeze bosky with babel and yellow toil

🥹

Royal flush type shit

[steel relic]

One of those is avoidable

[gaunt bay]

Unfortunately said one of them is the least important

[prime mountain]

We love is5

Get completely fucked over, 0 counterplay

👍

[strong kestrel]

Holy crap this was insanely hard for me to finally finish haha like my 10th try XD

[muted skiff]

Warf s2 on degen moment

[pliant bear]

It might be because of the beginne players

[prime mountain]

Are there any unusual units to build for is6 or mostly same as previous IS'?

[devout flicker]

For first pick Supporter, do folks normally snag Angelina or Tragodia? Or maybe Ling?

[nocturne cape]

There are way too many situational wack pick, but for a braindead meta run its just Raidian Exu and friends, preferably someone that can handle hitcount like Leizi Angelina Yato Ascalon

Oh and Wisadel ofc

[prime mountain]

Never ling, trag and ange are IS dependant and relic dependant

[gaunt bay]

Rose salt waiifu

[prime mountain]

Actually actually or just if you dont want to aboose exu all the time?

[gaunt bay]

Theyre for exu ban

Which u should do if ur not slop

:realmad:

[nocturne cape]

Waai fu is needed in case of one specific shitty Hour of Sui

[prime mountain]

Time to switch from w*shadel ban to exu ban yep

[gaunt bay]

Bro is not keeping wis ban

This slopper

Istg

[nocturne cape]

I found this from late September.

[prime mountain]

So are we doing no wis no exu no radian then? is that is6 gameplay

[gaunt bay]

Yeah

[prime mountain]

[gaunt bay]

Is6 too easy im afraid

Bro theres like people with 80 winstreak with turbo banlist this IS is not real

[prime mountain]

[nocturne cape]

They got to 100 post expansion i think

[nocturne cape]

They didnt ban Raidian

[gaunt bay]

Damn maybe theyre slop

Radian hardcarry

[nocturne cape]

Well yeah raidian is the creature

Ill allow it because she cute

[gaunt bay]

Jane creatura

[nocturne cape]

[prime mountain]

Cute, OP and free to build unit. Actually perfect creature

[nocturne cape]

Yep

S1 is defender powercreep, S2 is sniper powercreep, S3 is caster powercreep

Perfect creature

[gaunt bay]

Icl this goober sounds turbo slop

Powercreeps 3 roles

Sounds balanced bro

Angle is draft radian and ban her for combat

Thoughts?

[nocturne cape]

One S2 fish is 100k total damage relicless

[gaunt bay]

Bruh

This goober

[nocturne cape]

And you get five of these for 1 deployment slot

[gaunt bay]

Its like if i spawned five exus

Maybe so called is6 dalaos only like it cuz its easy

:realmad:

[prime mountain]

Gonna be some major whiplash coming out of is5 d18 straight to is6 lmao

[gaunt bay]

Not even bro

[steel relic]

complained enough about unbalanced garbage that you became it

[gaunt bay]

Ur gonna have to grind difficulty

So ur goin back to d1

Actual whiplash

245 d18 into d1 is6

[prime mountain]

💀

[paper notch]

none of you ever considered that d0 yi is gonna filter out 95% of the player base

[nocturne cape]

No way

[chrome tangle]

Good ending

[prime mountain]

Is Radian enough bait to get people to play higher diff

Surely right

[chrome tangle]

Cube did say some guy did D15 Radian only

Thus she's the only op u need

[nocturne cape]

yeah bro one guy did that

surely everyone can do it

[chrome tangle]

Yea

[nocturne cape]

leak 80 on ending 1

[chrome tangle]

We're all chinese at heart

[prime mountain]

Did he use the fabled strat?

[nocturne cape]

yep

[chrome tangle]

A clear is a clear

Why didn't u mention this in ur guide cube

Once again hiding high level strats

😔

[nocturne cape]

yep once again gatekeeping

[gaunt lichen]

its ok just 电表倒转

[nocturne cape]

you changed it already

[gaunt lichen]

grocerieries are on the horizon

its right there

i can almost touch it

🙏

[nocturne cape]

lets goo

[gaunt lichen]

cant wait for mama raidian for some good old fashioned fun

🙏

chinese only gaming

[nocturne cape]

yep my niche is yan operators so i draft exu2

totally not sweating

[gaunt lichen]

exu2 is yan

it says she is

she has hukou

cant wait for beijing auntie gaming

speaking of which

forgor to collect m9

wao auntie

[dusk badge]

What are the good teams for next is?

[remote badger]

class squads

[dusk badge]

But like which ops

[remote badger]

depends on which IS

[dusk badge]

Sui's garden

[remote badger]

@nocturne cape hi could u help this guy

my ass haven't played cn yet

[nocturne cape]

Gathering Squad, kettle from your f3 bonus, recruit E2 Raidian, Exu2 and Myrtle as your starters, recruit Ethan Leizi Surfer Purestream Gummy Amiya and its easy game

but every class squad is also viable, notably Def Supp Raidian, Spec Cast Exu + Mizuki, Snipermed Naran Ros (Wisadel) Kal, GVG Leizi + Entelechia

there are other fun squads too but they take some game knowledge to pilot

theyre all pretty good too

at the end of the day every squad is viable to some degree

[sinful sparrow]

leader squad is viable true

[nocturne cape]

Leader squad is still ok

Cuz more hp to buy Ji shops

[gaunt lichen]

🙏

mama raidian

[dusk creek]

support squad because I can force infinite

true?

[nocturne cape]

[prime mountain]

no pots, defective.

[gaunt lichen]

[prime mountain]

Chat what do we think, did reddit cook this time

[inland elbow]

no

[steel relic]

tacfort in any disciplined sense should be on its own row below unplayable

[inland elbow]

I don't even think it's displined

no comp which advocates for f4 lnf is

[steel relic]

I assumed "disciplined" refered to playing class squads and staying in squad

like tacfort flingers is undisciplined

[inland elbow]

the running meme in is central is that disciplined means "someone who has a gameplan and sticks to it" and emergent means "someone who reacts to their relics and what the game gives them to decide their drafts"

that's my neutral explanation

[steel relic]

oh is this an IS central thing

[inland elbow]

emergent just means cope where you take bad operators who have supposed synergy with your bad relics

[boreal island]

gl doing a disciplined IS2 run (unless you plan on rerolling over and over)

[steel relic]

simply do not engage with the difficulty system in is2

it is trash

[boreal island]

Obviously, gacha gamers, enjoy rng, obviously

[inland elbow]

you don't even draft yu

well in general content it's not a big deal because it's easy. People tend to like to use s3 with mech accord casters because of the synergy there

s2 tends to be the skill that comes up more often in hard content

so do s3 if you just plan to spam mech accords with him, s2 if you plan to use him in relevant contexts

[arctic panther]

s2

ideally both s2 and s3

[agile hill]

i swear is2 has some crazy bs markov chain on endings without trivial duplication of states

its probably got like if you take this ending, your chance of other ending get drastically reduced

[boreal island]

Yes, getting multiple endings in IS2 is hard. The buffs/debuffs are also very reactive. It can give something like +extra stuff if you buy something in the next shop, right before your next shop node. Or -2 deployment limit on F5, and you have -deployment on the floor aswell.

[unkempt lion]

Saria is a great defender right? Just got her in an is3 run

[inland elbow]

No

there is no serious reason to draft her in any IS

[sharp lagoon]

oh man just saw this is is station and not help. sorry guys

[boreal island]

I mean, if she's free, just put her on S1 and treat her like gummy. Not that you'd take gummy over Spot in IS3, so treat her like Spot.

[steel relic]

you can't treat Saria like Gummy

no other guardian s1 works like hers

unironically they're all worse

[woeful knot]

lets see the real explanation
show the hate

[inland elbow]

It's two lines down you nerd

[woeful knot]

😢

@ mod

[boreal island]

If I said treat her like Bassline, they probably wouldn't know who he is, cause they didn't know Saria. Yes, yes, they are worse.

[drifting mango]

[low vortex]

xinny procrasinating till last minute to do IS5

[unkempt lion]

Oh, I never know what units are useful in IS modes. I'm assuming broken ones like exusiai and wisadel can carry pretty much everything? Figured maybe saria was the defender version of that, but I heard yu and shu were better so idk

[unkempt lion]

Gotcha

[boreal island]

Yu S3 is good for healing in IS

[steel relic]

Saria's a guardian bruh

there is no defender version of Wisadel or Exu

at best Horn is somewhat usable in is3

[unkempt lion]

Aren't guardian a sub class of defenders? I guess I got it wrong all along lol

[inland elbow]

It heavily depends on the IS what ops are meta

[steel relic]

yes the healing subclass

[boreal island]

noshi2 soon™

[inland elbow]

I'd read from here to get a general idea

https://is-central.github.io/

[unkempt lion]

Oh yeah I've read it a few times but found it lacking in information towards bosses or what ops are considered strong, thanks tho!

[inland elbow]

Which IS are you asking about

The is4 section has an operators guide which is slightly outdated but gives a good idea

You just use exu instead of degen now

Is3 section has a speccast comp at the end of the izumik guide

Is5 is a bunch of written guides for different comps

[unkempt lion]

Yeah I was wondering what else besides ending 4, just saw that example of an overall comp. I just gotta replace these crazy strong 6* with what I have I guess

[dense vortex]

dammit

I lost a diff 17 ending 5 run because I got the condition where ops go down to 30%hp right at the boss stage

[brittle haven]

I love exploding my runs bc my internet fucks me over

[dense vortex]

that boss heavily relies on fast deploys so I got cooked

[brittle haven]

U only need one anyway

[inland elbow]

The comp beats everything because it has to tbh

[brittle haven]

Although getting suffering is pretty piss

[inland elbow]

Idk what ops you have, but Exu alter is the giga carry

[brittle haven]

Ur best epoch that doesn't include prosperity is either congestion or king of sarkaz

[nocturne cape]

Congestion is bad if you dont have deployment relics

Catastrophes is pretty ignorable on boss stages

[dense vortex]

I needed 2 because I didn't have enough lives to sponge it when Amiya takes the mobs. unfortunately I couldn't deploy any ops at all because of the mechanic while Amiya just casually one shots my defenders. DP was also an issue I didn't have dp start relics

[brittle haven]

I forgot catastrophes

[unkempt lion]

Tragodia, Mountain, Lin, SilverAshe, Lumen, Gladiia. Those are my upgraded 6* and the other four are Entelechia, Gnosis, Flametail and Civilight Eterna

[inland elbow]

Oh this nerd

I think I gave advice about it before

[brittle haven]

This is why u draft agent

[inland elbow]

Yeah I mean when ur roster is like this, anything looks good

It's like telling a starving child in africa to not settle for bread and only eat gold leaf truffle caviar

[dense vortex]

in my experience Exu Alter is a bit weird on IS because she doesn't have build in def reduction like Ela so in high diff u need to get really lucky on relics for her to do her job.

Tho then again my comparison for cosistency for her is Wis'adel so maybe I'm just brain rotted

[brittle haven]

Caviar tastes like shit and gold leaf doesn't taste like anything that's a horrible analogy

[inland elbow]

Most enemies in is have middling defence so exu s2 easily blasts through them

[inland elbow]

True I should've picked a rich person food that actually tastes good

[dense vortex]

speaking of Exu alter yeah she was my carry on my most recent run which I just said the results for, really damm unlucky rng

[inland elbow]

Exu is really broken even without relics

[brittle haven]

"rich person food"
"good"

[inland elbow]

Depending on the IS I'd argue better than wis

Like is4 you'd way rather have exu than wis

[brittle haven]

Exu2 scales pretty well

[dense vortex]

Dude I had a bomb drone tank a whole Salvo earlier when I got on a Regular Army node

[inland elbow]

Well that's is5

Ur picking the IS where exu is at her weakest and wis is at her strongest

And she's still good there

[brittle haven]

Also got the book treatment

[dense vortex]

ah, I was mostly referring to IS5 on my assessment. Exu2 is probably best at IS 3 imo. IS4 is just weird due to how inflated the relic pool is without a consistent way of getting good ones.

can't wait to play IS6, it's annoying tho that Leizi has dodged my pulls

I can't spend any more the upcoming banners are just crazy

[boreal island]

Spiked chest affecting meta is kinda funny.

[errant siren]

No it's not.

[ionic bridge]

2 more squads left

Hopefully can make it b4 is6

[boreal island]

To get the full red color, it needs to be D10 or D15? I forgot.

[errant siren]

D12

Min

[boreal island]

That's a weird number, same for all IS?

[errant siren]

True from IS4 and onwards.

IS2 and IS3 doesn't have different Ending Badges.

[hallow vale]

When is IS6 again?

Next week?

[errant siren]

18th

2 days left.

[hallow vale]

Aight thx 🫡

[boreal island]

There's a cool guide you can read in the meantime.

[hallow vale]

Send

[boreal island]

pins

[errant siren]

[hallow vale]

Okk

[nocturne cape]

oh shit light pinned it

I am flattered

[hallow vale]

My is6 goat cube

[nocturne cape]

I am not

I am a slop shilling a sloperator

[boreal island]

I've been playing it for months without understanding the machanics cause... who has time to translate?
Me, the entire time reading the guide: oh, oh, ohhhh.

[nocturne cape]

Yeah, for the guide, always take it with a grain of salt. It’s impossible for me to go back and test everything again, especially with the IS6 expansion 1 on CN. It’s based on my experience and memories, which might not be entirely accurate

[hallow vale]

Dw i trust u

[cold fjord]

yep piss guide

Based on 0 experience

all slop 0 value

[nocturne cape]

Well i tried to simulate pre expansion

But its kinda hard, the game gives too much free shit nowadays

[cold fjord]

actually is there anything that needs to be worked on about is6

[nocturne cape]

Ive seen people asking for a D15 comp guide

If you wanna contribute

[cold fjord]

Why not

we did kinda discuss most comps over time when testing shit anyways

[nocturne cape]

Ye

[boreal island]

doesn't have the kettle strat, instant dislike

[nocturne cape]

You dont need kettle for D10

The guide was made with D10 in mind

[somber stream]

What is the kettle strat? Is it the lamp of IS6?

I guess a kettle is lamp shaped topology-wise(?)

[nocturne cape]

Gathering Squad + kettle start gives 8 hope

Gathering squad gives a free E1 raidian, spend 1 hope to upgrade her to E2, you have 7 more hope to recruit a 6 star medic / guard / specialist/ vanguard

So you can start with a E2 Raidian + another 6 star

[cold fjord]

he prolly means the other kettle strat

[nocturne cape]

Huh

What other kettle strat

[boreal island]

the ling stuff

[cold fjord]

john ling node abuser

😢

[nocturne cape]

Ooohh

Erm

[boreal island]

You can't guarantee it, so it's more of a meme, take some effort, but you can have like 200+ relics if you do it.

[nocturne cape]

Support Squad

[gaunt bay]

So cringe

[unkempt lion]

Would y'all recommend upgrading a 4* support for IS runs? I gotta have three of them for a deep investigations but besides tragodia and Orchid I have nothing. I could take a support unit too I guess

[gaunt bay]

For 5-6 yeah

From mei and oyana

[nocturne cape]

Upgraded support squad gives a special flower coin called Cocoon Silk, it gives you 1 ingot for every 4 ingots you have upon being tossed

The idea is to use Ling node to generate enough ticket and candlelights that you can stay in bosky forever and generate infinite amount of ingots

Infinite amount of ingot means infinite amount of ling nodes, which translates to infinite candlelight (bosky steps) and infinite ticket

If you have infinite candlelight and infinite ticket you also get infinite relics because Ling jode has an option to give 6 relics if you roll the correct coin

[gaunt bay]

Which translates to infinite amount of slop!

[nocturne cape]

So if you tossed Cocoon Silk when you have 200+ ingots it gives 50 ingots, which is enough for one Ling node

[stray moss]

cube where is your is6 guide

[nocturne cape]

The more ingots you have the more ingots it generates

[gaunt bay]

Aint it pinned

[nocturne cape]

It is pinned

But im never making a guide on how to Ling

Hunting for Ling is boring af

[stray moss]

i see

[unkempt lion]

Thanks! Do you think it's worth using my instant e2 item on civilight eterna considering I have tragodia then? SInce it's so high on the list

[nocturne cape]

Ive done it once but i wasnt hunting for it

[gaunt bay]

….what

Civlight is not on the list

[nocturne cape]

I traded for a Cocoon Silk when i was playing Def Supp and i pivoted

[sinful sparrow]

good evening cube

:MintHype:

[unkempt lion]

Oh lol I thought she was the top right logo, looks familiar

[boreal island]

it is, but it's fun to know how to do it, when you get it

[gaunt bay]

This is a low rarity list

[nocturne cape]

Yep, there is a small but none zero chance that you can pivot into it from other squads

[unkempt lion]

Not sure I have that operator then

[nocturne cape]

So better to know how it works

[boreal island]

question to competitive players, I'm assuming it's not allowed to ling it, but which part of it is restricted?

[nocturne cape]

You cannot use the Ling node more than once

At least that’s how most tournaments restrict it, to my knowledge.

[gaunt bay]

Lame

[nocturne cape]

As for the newer infinites post expansion i think they just ban flowercoin squad

[sinful sparrow]

why does that matter if you dont play tourney tho 🤫

[nocturne cape]

That is true

Which is why i always wanted to learn flowercoin squad

[gaunt bay]

Nop what if he becomes tourney dalao

[nocturne cape]

But im not ready to become a nerd yet

[sinful sparrow]

i wanna try out the 5 toss squad

[nocturne cape]

So ill do it later

[sinful sparrow]

but this necessarily implies giving up def/supp’s comfiness

🥀

[nocturne cape]

Yeah bro gotta say goodbye to your Raidian Hoshi slop

[boreal island]

Cause when a friend asks me how to play smth quick, I always recommend whatever's banned, it's always broken.

[sinful sparrow]

into Raidian + something else slop

[gaunt bay]

Red is gonna call you a tourist

[sinful sparrow]

:gigampreg:

you can not escape raidian

at least without a good squad

i think? eyanx plays raidianless IS6

[nocturne cape]

[gaunt bay]

Eyanx special

[sinful sparrow]

roster i mean

[nocturne cape]

I think started it recently

Bro was playing Raidian GVG for the longest time

[sinful sparrow]

imma be fr idk what he even drafts for gvg

[ionic bridge]

Hi chat how does cursed counterbeast work? Does it consume inspirer based on recent acquisition or based on rarity?

[sinful sparrow]

outside of Saki-chan

[sinful sparrow]

lowest star first

[nocturne cape]

It consumes the last inspirer in your inventory

They are sorted from high rarity to low rarity

[gaunt bay]

Can you check i wanna see if entel is a fraud

[sinful sparrow]

brother go check it yourself

[nocturne cape]

Eyanx hates Entel

[sinful sparrow]

i dont have bili

on phone

[gaunt bay]

So u r fraud