#lungmen-city

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twilit tiger
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if you're gonna cheese it like that, ill let you in on a funny little detail about the south gate

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you wanna know?

versed pine
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what

twilit tiger
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so you know how i said i had to book it with jefuty through detection

versed pine
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you just basically ran into there on your last turn?

twilit tiger
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thats because when you activate it it acts as a sound thing and attracts everything

versed pine
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this piece of shit ELID is sitting on the controls now

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oh wait there was a way to teleport north

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I'm a fking dunce

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well if I happen to fail again

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I suppose I can speedrun a bit more faster

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idk how I didn't notice that north passage

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hmm wait a minute

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hold on

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omg so cute

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if she's near Mendo she stops shaking

upper vale
twilit tiger
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so cute

versed pine
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shows that she's still quite normal despite being forced to be a seasoned veteran in a loop

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surely she'll adjust to the AU just fine

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omg she said the line!

twilit tiger
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how am i at 1 turn left with a ??? bonus objective

versed pine
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what

twilit tiger
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i have no clue what would unlock it but also

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how tf do i do this faster

versed pine
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you don't

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that's the neat part of it all

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hey wanker...

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how many blood bullets did u bother making

twilit tiger
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uh i made a lot more than i needed

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they give you some too and thats probably good enough if youre just using them to remove the buff

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if you actually want to use them for damage idk

versed pine
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monkaS

twilit tiger
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also i clearly dont understand how stealth works in this game because i just opened fire and only part of the map alerted

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if i can figure this out i can literally just gun down the entire 'stealth section' of this map

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i think its something to do with witnesses

versed pine
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stealth be like

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"kill everyone then nobody is alive to know"

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this stage is gonna be

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painful huh

twilit tiger
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xuan im gonna spoil the start of 3-4 because i need you to understand how weird this is to me

versed pine
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fk

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gotta restart already

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these mf

twilit tiger
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youre starting 3-2?

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enjoy

versed pine
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can't get hit by ELIDs

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2 fking ELIDS near my ass

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and since they go absolutely last

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the one Shrike near it already went away to dash towards a different ELID

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so that ELID went onto Mendo

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adasda

twilit tiger
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i had to optimize the shit out of the 3-2 start

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its also where my love for holo gravel was kindled

versed pine
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I suppose I should use that to slow the ELIDs down

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anyways since I probably want lunch b4 work

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I should get my ass off this game and get food since I work in the next hr

twilit tiger
versed pine
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MF

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I accidentally ended my turn

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so ELID went to Mendo cause he was closest enuf, welps that's a wrap for test run

twilit tiger
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oh also xuan

versed pine
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also yeah that stealth is weird

twilit tiger
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this was the part where i was complaining about restarting during enemy turn

versed pine
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just watched the first vid to see the comparison

twilit tiger
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because now you gotta sit through two enemy turns

versed pine
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teehee

twilit tiger
versed pine
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30 hours of the supposed 100 hrs the game has

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me feels like

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this is gonna go past 100 hours by a lot

twilit tiger
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Like turrets shooting doesnt 'hard' break stealth and shooting out of vision range doesnt either its fucking weird

versed pine
twilit tiger
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I feel like that hour count may not have been accounting for first time challenge+ runs but who knows

versed pine
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or rather

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the expected average

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or at minimum

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idk

twilit tiger
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If i can figure out a route for this no-witnesses stealth it'll be a weirdass way for me to have optimized the start

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I was just trying to break stealth asap to see if that had anything to do with the bonus but nope

versed pine
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y'know thinking about it

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it's prob just a bug

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potentially so

twilit tiger
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omg i

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went afk

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they were doing the afk animations

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and then i tabbed back in and it all stopped

versed pine
twilit tiger
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and turrets dont count

versed pine
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so do u want to know the last ???

twilit tiger
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idk why jefuty shooting doesnt count though

versed pine
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since you and that other guy are still on the same stage

twilit tiger
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what other guy

versed pine
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and they just learned what it was

twilit tiger
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from the other day?

versed pine
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yes

twilit tiger
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is it in cn lounge

versed pine
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yes

twilit tiger
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oh ok

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this strat will

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actually help a lot with that lmfao

versed pine
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anyways see ya in about 8 hrs

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or when I'm on break coping about GBF roulette again

twilit tiger
lean storm
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Oh good god

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@past pier

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Wife

past pier
lean storm
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Oh yea

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I got keqing

upper vale
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dam back to back

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tf another one snuffLul

lean storm
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It has good drop chance so that’s nice

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Too bad you’re gonna need like 5-6 new weapons for each grid

upper vale
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I've gotten these more than the other 2 weaps

lean storm
upper vale
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which is absurd

lean storm
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And uncap them all too

upper vale
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hah. no

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I literally can't do 4* uncaps cuz of quartz limitations

lean storm
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Time to reduce ur tiamat dupes

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And to hit the ewiyar solo

upper vale
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right.

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The dupes I don't have

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I literally don't have quartz sources until next month

lean storm
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I have 5k wind quartz idk why

upper vale
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got another bow smh

lean storm
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Wind can hit 100% crit with 2 harps lol

upper vale
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Man the anima drops are stupid

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constant x3 anima back to back

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yet 0 omega

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in 100+ raids

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welp my dagger is 3* now

lean storm
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By my theory

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Ideal wind rn is

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When raphael comes

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2 guns 2 lances 2 harp 1 spoon

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The usual basically

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Unless u go ougi then its still sietes

upper vale
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gold chest is a tia summon

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crazy

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the amount of normal tia omega anima I have gotten is also kinda nuts

upper vale
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oh wow

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wiki got updated with raid drops

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can get the weaps from 4 sources snuffLul

upper vale
upper vale
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winning snuffSmug

versed pine
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Failed to do my arcanum dailies

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I love my coworkers taking 8 thousand years for a single transcation like hey

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You already sold the plan stop holding the customer for a fking another minute or two

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Take the damn next customer already

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So anyways I couldn't afk finish my dailies, not an entire big deal but pls give me a damn breather

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I dont want black Friday everyday

twilit tiger
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dailies? what are those?

versed pine
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I need all my xtal scraps bby

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Not that it matters

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Also is the next banner any good

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I sure fking hope so

lean storm
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We don’t know yet

versed pine
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20 draws into frenzy pity

lean storm
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But I sure hope it has silva

versed pine
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Can't wait

lean storm
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So I can cope not getting silva

versed pine
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For nothing good next banner

lean storm
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80 pulls on boobitan or pholia’s toes and got neither

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Why even live

versed pine
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So my pulls are wasted

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Why are you

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Focused on phobias toes

lean storm
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Cuz pholia’s artist

versed pine
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Are you also a feet lover like Nana????

lean storm
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Put a lot of detail into her eet

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Xuan good morning

twilit tiger
versed pine
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I like pholia myself

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But I dont pay attention to her toes

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First reaction to yukuta Pholia

lean storm
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Now u will once u notice how well-drawn they are

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And how great they are

versed pine
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Was simply EARS

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Nah I wont

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I dont look at feet unless it's literally drawn as the main focus in an art

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That it's hard to not notice

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Then again usually the thighs is up front too as the focus so I see that first

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And that's assuming I dont look at the character's face first

lean storm
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Idk pholia yukata makes me unwise

versed pine
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back off

lean storm
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Cupitan on the other hand

versed pine
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Her mofu mofu of a companion and her ears are

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MINE FOR THE TAKING

lean storm
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Man almost rank225

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Tales is wholesome

versed pine
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Man

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My break short today

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Sadge

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Can't even cope pull rn

lean storm
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If u werent busy typing u could’ve pulled by now xuan

versed pine
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No I'm waiting for banner news first ya dunce

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Since it changes in about less than 14 hrs

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I forgot what that one spreadsheet said

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So idk if it's 1 more generic banner b4 prem gala or actually prem gala part 1

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Prob generic banner

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Unfortunate for me

versed pine
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I'll trust you

twilit tiger
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terrible mistake

versed pine
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Terrible mistake indeed

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I've got a cute psychopath

twilit tiger
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based

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say gex alt

versed pine
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My pals are telling me not to sierotix 000

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And that since I clearly don't know what I want or need

upper vale
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worth it ig snuffLul

versed pine
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That I shouldn't be using my gms at all

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Yknow what I say to that

twilit tiger
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follow your heart?

versed pine
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I know what I want and I know it's not what I need for what I have isn't optimal

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So

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Fk it we ball

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Save for broken seasonal? Ha

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Nonsense

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Least it won't be like my previous 2 sierotix

lean storm
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I say get a gm weapon

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Don’t siero cuz siero is never worth it

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U can get a dupe of whatever u siero

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U can never get a dupe eresh

twilit tiger
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U can if u buy a second

upper vale
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u fukin kidding me

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on my own host

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I get an omega anima from the green chest

lean storm
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I do wanna buy fire katana next

twilit tiger
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my 3-5 solution just barely failed because i didnt upgrade my darts

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or maybe im just stupid actually

lean storm
lean storm
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Yes

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We’re a rare breed after all

twilit tiger
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not rare enough some would say

lean storm
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Bro there’s probably less ppl in our country than in a random canadian city scumkmrlaugh

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Ok canada might not be that populated

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Shit climate after all

versed pine
twilit tiger
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yeah i thought i needed the range

versed pine
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And more capacity

twilit tiger
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and now i cant tell if i need the range or just better timing

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this stage limits you to 10 anyway

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i dont think i need the range i think my timing was just off

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i hate how long ive spent here

versed pine
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Real

twilit tiger
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jeez ok i barely fulfilled all of the bonuses

gentle mauve
lean storm
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Hmm

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Hmmmmm

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HMMMMMMMMMM???

pure osprey
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finally

lean storm
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The 3rd one looks like a @past pier kind of girl

versed pine
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We got plenty of weapons that make no sense

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Ft rotb axe that is classified as sword

lean storm
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@twilit tiger

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You ever just

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856% magna ATK

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Looks like light is staying swords i think

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2 guns for 20% cap

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So replace cosmic sword and one M1 sword

versed pine
lean storm
versed pine
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@twilit tiger apparently pressing print screen can get you these easily rather than trying to screenshot via steam

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just paste it somewhere and save

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I would've said look at art gallery to do that maybe assuming that works, but those don't have all the CGs

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anyways

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ELIDs looking damn creepy

versed pine
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Warner's Brothers did done fk up

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that's what they did

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anyways

gray mesa
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Man having to add all of my manga to my library again is a pain

lean storm
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I CAN 0B NEXT GW

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Next banner is fat damn

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Vampy

versed pine
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I'm

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dying

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if it ain't the fking ELIDs, it's the shrike

lean storm
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Xuan

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Do u have vampy

versed pine
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yes

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she is core after all

lean storm
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Then it was not a terrible mistake

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Unless u want sheep or trex

versed pine
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WHY ARE THE ENEMY PLACEMENTS THIS BAD

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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alright we go agane

versed pine
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we're fine

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home boys made a mistake

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somewhat wished that cutscene was actually voiced but oh well

gilded idol
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She's real

lean storm
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Gallanza was mentioned too in one of the anni logins P.sure

versed pine
lean storm
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@gray mesa

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NOT AGAIN 😭

lean storm
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why did I just get

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wonder XP

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from doing xeno pro skip

versed pine
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you're asking this now?

lean storm
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I haven't done xeno pro skip

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for like 5+ months

versed pine
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it's free

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exp meaning free emp

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meaning also free progress towards mastery lvls

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also also free SSR fodder for reducing or skill lvls

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anyways I sure hope I got everything in this stage

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it honestly started to overstay its welcome despite being fun at first

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annoying, too easy, but potentially could've snowballed and went full hard

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anyways S rank got, sure hope I didn't miss any particular materials by being blind

lean storm
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I didn't do it cuz I was short on pots at the time

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and it's shit XP or whatever

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so it wasn't worth my AP

versed pine
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coward

lean storm
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holy cuteness

normal light
lean storm
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oh yea ewiyar's pns is now usable again

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cuz the new m3 weapon is dagger

versed pine
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wdym usable again

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it was technically always still usable

oblique sonnet
normal light
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looking forward to that game coming out like i was waiting for palworld

normal light
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hope you like paying $70 to beta test the game

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ill buy it for half off with all the bugs and stuff taken care of

oblique sonnet
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my currency is like

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$100

normal light
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imagine

oblique sonnet
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like its actually expensive for me

normal light
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I got enough stuff to play. I can wait

oblique sonnet
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its like triple the Dark Arisen stuff

normal light
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wish i had people to play HD2 with but my times available no one else is

normal light
lean storm
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istg our crewmates sometimes tilt me lmao

upper vale
dusk bay
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Found @gray mesa and @storm igloo tryna flex

upper vale
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3 red paper wack

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and no fukin weapons on my own host

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nor omega anima

upper vale
lean storm
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that's a lot of clothes

normal light
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she is from Russia

past pier
lean storm
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it just feels weird

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seeing a destroer

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with this many clothes

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oh god her bedroom skin is amazing

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why does she have a bdsm skin

normal light
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Tashkent was actually italian built that is why she got purple hair

lean storm
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@twilit tiger does varuna kengo ever use shalem s2 in hard content

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give up 5 turns of summons for 3 turn skill cd cut?

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Cuz afaik summons are very important in shit like hexa, right

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main reason why I ask is cuz I was talking with crewmates about varuna not having grid space for PnS (hraes for non-ougi and no space for ougi) and was thinking how schro is more value than PnS

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but they were like "well haase" and basically trying to say how there's multiple ways to make use of PnS (the only one with a lot of multihit shit is haase in like Kengo Vajra Haase Shalem)

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and I was thinking how much would it take for PnS + 7% cap to be more value than 10% special CA cap + awakening

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there's also drang balls and you'd rather use a lancelot than pns if you run a lot of skill dmg(?)

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overall PnS in ougi grids just sounds silly when Schrodinger exists

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50k supp + 460k non-special cap to ougi when special CA cap gives 660k, even more in hard content

upper vale
upper vale
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these are new from the event ye?

lean storm
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if they are in the event preview

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then yes

upper vale
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pain

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more shit to worry about

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I just wonder what the raid boss will be this time

normal light
upper vale
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if its gonna be a preview to more m3 bosses

lean storm
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no we won't get any m3 for over a month

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the m3s have set dates

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one in early may and one in mid-june iirc

upper vale
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no I meant previews in events

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like Tiamat

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before full release in may

lean storm
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I'm

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not sure what you mean

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events have nothing to do with upcoming stuff

upper vale
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we literally had Tia Aura boss in the latest event

lean storm
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yes

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because

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it's an anniversary event

upper vale
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I just wonder if they will do it again for later M3s

lean storm
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it also lasted for like 4 weeks if u noticed

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no they probably won't

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because they'd have to connect lore to it

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in fact we didn't even have luminiera anywhere

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and yet here we have luminiera credo

upper vale
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Its just a thought

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Cuz the one weap reminds me of Celeste

normal light
lean storm
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I am the seg master

upper vale
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pain

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tia raids are slow

lean storm
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ok world solo fight

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is actually kinda hard

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wtf

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welp

upper vale
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another dagger WGremlin

lean storm
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no 4th skill for a bit ig

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fucking damascus is gonna be the end of me

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everyone and their moms need it

normal light
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event coming up

lean storm
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oh its raid event again

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thank fucking god

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I thought its gonna be shop event

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oh but its in 3 days

normal light
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farm raids and pray damascus sand drops

lean storm
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I'll just go start haase after I wake up ig

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but this shit dont fuk around

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maybe I did wrong comp for it idk

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it kinda hard

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this fucked me up a bit

normal light
upper vale
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oh vampy on banner

normal light
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got nothing good off last banner. Got a 30 pull today and got Baal. It was such a blueball too. My one pull had 4 SSRs in it but it was 2 repeats, 1 summon, and then Baal.

upper vale
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dammit

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another dagger

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amazing

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I have 2 3* daggers now

upper vale
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my god these raids are dead rn

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I join a low % raid to leech and it doesn't clear for ages

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finally

normal light
upper vale
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omg

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an omega anima

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alright

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3 tia guns at 3*

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now to cry while I have 0 quartz to 4* them

normal light
normal light
gilded idol
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My Lumi is almost max uncap and now I'm being spammed with friend requests bruh

normal light
upper vale
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people get friend requests?

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Wheres mine cuz of my 6* tia

normal light
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if you set up your summons right

gilded idol
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Is it max

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it's really easy to just 6* her and doesn't increase her aura

upper vale
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Sub aura u mean ye?

gilded idol
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No I'm pretty sure support summons don't get sub auras

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It's the enhanced main aura people look for

upper vale
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main aura is 10% after the 3rd sub star

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each

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surely 27 plus marks isn't the main reason

gilded idol
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Well if you want friend requests give me your ID cause I need friends with upgraded summons lmao

upper vale
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Tia is all you are getting then

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and Celeste come may

gilded idol
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Imma just do em all

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Fuck my sands

upper vale
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it is nice

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that the omega summons actually deal dmg now

gilded idol
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yea

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they're not dead weight

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only one worth actually calling before was lumi for dispel

upper vale
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sub aura is whatever. okish

gilded idol
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Better than nothing

upper vale
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Definitely don't think its justifiable to have an extra one at 210 for it

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maybe for premium grids ig LappDumb

gilded idol
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Free def is nice

upper vale
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Surely with m3 now

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we get regalia skips

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or something else

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so I don't have to play this game

gilded idol
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Revans skip when

upper vale
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ennead skip would be nice for me

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granted I won't have it unlocked due to my forgotten water/light teams

twilit tiger
upper vale
dusk bay
twilit tiger
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so they hard confirmed her as a self-annihilator

upper vale
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Thanks wiki for bringing me pain

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1000+ quartz and 50 omega anima

gilded idol
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Why would you run 5

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Wat

upper vale
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to cap it at 100% ig

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I don't think its necessary cuz its making me question what else I would put on the grid

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makes me consider all the farming I did for grimnir and the ticket I used on a spoon

gilded idol
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Oh it literally says right next to it

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You won't actually use 5 lmao

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Then why make 5

upper vale
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I got 3

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I can see 4 maybe

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the quartz just kills me

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I like how I got 2 3* daggers now and they are "slightly" worse than Beaks since its defensive

twilit tiger
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where on the wiki even is this

upper vale
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advanced grids

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"advanced"

gilded idol
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Yeah it's not finished

upper vale
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More worried about Lumi grids tbh

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This just seems pain af to me

twilit tiger
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ew please dont tell me we're actually coping pillar grids

upper vale
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I think its situational

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Idk what to pair with the guns tho for wind

twilit tiger
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yeah wind is gonna be a mess i can already tell

upper vale
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cuz I assume 3 guns is a minimum?

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then ultima/opus/baha shit

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not entirely sure what else gets slot in

twilit tiger
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idk if wind can fit crit in

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youll also want beaks

upper vale
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I got 1 4* beak rn

twilit tiger
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like where tf do i fit exalto in here

upper vale
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yuck

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cuz wouldn't u want a grid with like 5~ storm related skills. Just to stack gun vivification

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to meet the atk and dmg cap buffs

gilded idol
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Probably replace Ra axe

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Idk

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I don't actually think light is gunna use flame pillars for crit either I think some guns and katanas are probably going to be better

upper vale
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Lumi just brings me pain

gilded idol
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Katanas probably better than pillars of flame

upper vale
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good thing light is still dead on my acc

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can basically start fresh farming guns and katanas

lean storm
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I think Light is gonna use 2 guns, maybe 3 if you don’t have a Yuni harp flb

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And that’s it

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Maybe even 2 guns and a cosmic if no yuni

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And then a lance if u need tankiness

lean storm
twilit tiger
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idk what shalem s2 has to do with pns

lean storm
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Make haase S1 come up sooner

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LMAO

twilit tiger
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that

upper vale
twilit tiger
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is the

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single most r worded thing i think i have ever heard

lean storm
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Listen wanker

twilit tiger
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i've used shalem s2 as a panic button in hl content and its a really last resort kinda thing

lean storm
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I had to talk to explain to rank 300 ppl why 10% special CA cap would be more prefered than PnS

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As to why water varuna ougi has no space for pns

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And their whole argument was just “pns better” and no why

twilit tiger
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i was considering barring my pns but the literal only place i would use it is endgame content

gilded idol
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Vote for my anni ticket
Summer Fediel
Yukata Naru
Valentine Monika
Halloween Vikala
Or I could just go for a grand and get Michael or Percival

twilit tiger
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aka hexa and sussy

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vicky

lean storm
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I looked at hexa and hexa grid didn’t even use pns lmao

twilit tiger
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i mean its absolutely not necessary

lean storm
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Sufaa did but idk why

gilded idol
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I don't even know what I'd use Halloween rat for but she's winning my crew's vote too

twilit tiger
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based crew

lean storm
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Zelk isn’t it only u and mofu in ur crew

twilit tiger
lean storm
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Kengo

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With shishio

twilit tiger
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well pns is nice to have because it helps clear skill omens

gilded idol
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we were only in our own crew cause of his job but I brought him as my plus one

twilit tiger
upper vale
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Spooky Rat is cute

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All that matters

gilded idol
twilit tiger
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maybe trump was right about the border wall

lean storm
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Idk it was just

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I felt stupid having to explain to ppl with like 4+ years

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As to why PnS would be less dmg in an OUGI grid/comp

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Than something like a schrodinger

twilit tiger
#

in normal content i definitely wouldnt bother with a pns in an ougi comp

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its not worth the grid space

lean storm
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Yea cuz I was saying “why would water want pns” thinking about ur grid

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“Why wouldn’t it?”

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And I never got an answer from their side of argument

twilit tiger
#

like i said i'd only use it in hexa and sussy

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which is why i didnt bar it

lean storm
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Then again the same ppl told me to “stop trying to make an imaginary m3 grid and wait for JP to cook”

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Me using the one opportunity to be able to think for myself and try to understand what would make a certain grid mroe meta

twilit tiger
#

i guess i could replace the KoI here but ideally itd be a drang ball anyway

gilded idol
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I'm at 2 votes for Fediel and 2 for Vikala

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This was supposed to make it easier to pick

upper vale
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get the rat

twilit tiger
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fuck i know what swopey will say

upper vale
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don't think

versed pine
upper vale
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rat cute and cute is good

twilit tiger
#

hes way too down bad for fed

twilit tiger
gilded idol
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Idk what I'd use halloween rat for

upper vale
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on the home screen

versed pine
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It's ok me neither for I dont have Halloween rat

lean storm
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No I won’t say anything

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Summer fed is actually p.shit for hl

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And I never used h vik yet

twilit tiger
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swopey i feel like most of us have neither

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this is purely vicky supremacy

gilded idol
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I guess I could put her where Europa is in my water manadiver

upper vale
#

Rat is rat

gilded idol
#

Manadiver should activate her skill a lot

upper vale
#

I'd rather have Rat than the wrong water dragon

versed pine
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Grea had her time, I blame the lack of a rebalance for her dated kit

twilit tiger
#

fuckin laser tanks

versed pine
#

Still on 3-4?

twilit tiger
#

3-6

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where did you end off

versed pine
#

3-4

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3rd stage kinda

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Overstayed it's welcome for me but it was fun to

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Fk with the enemy

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Till Sugar made it less fun

twilit tiger
#

i still had fun

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it took just long enough i felt

versed pine
#

3rd bonus was like

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"Don't let this thing die"

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And I'm like "how would it?"

twilit tiger
#

but bro takes like 1 damage at a time anyway so like lmao

versed pine
#

Then the clones attacked

twilit tiger
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wait the clones can kill it?

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they never got that far for me

gilded idol
#

is it worth using the anni ticket on a grand even

versed pine
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I lured it close enuf to find out

gilded idol
#

it isn't right

twilit tiger
#

its really not

versed pine
#

no it's not ever worth to use on a grand

gilded idol
#

Michael and Percival are pretty tempting

versed pine
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It's why I forcefully just grabbed hLich b4 I made that impulse

twilit tiger
#

since the idea is that grands are very common 'limiteds'

gilded idol
#

Yeah

twilit tiger
#

and seasonals like halloween are very limited limiteds

versed pine
#

I was really thinking of Percy myself too

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but fire is ok

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I'm not in high end content

twilit tiger
#

anyways so youre going into the stealth map xuan

versed pine
#

My grid isn't really specialized for anything

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Oh I'm aware

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I feel like

twilit tiger
#

the one that probably took me like 3 hours

versed pine
#

There's a way to fully stealth the majority of the stage

twilit tiger
#

wait

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oh

versed pine
#

Although oops got caught immediately by first commando in the damn tree

twilit tiger
#

nvm i was thinking of 3-5

versed pine
#

don't forget

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To not include the prologue

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3-1 isn't even 3-1

twilit tiger
#

dont forget xuan

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if there are no witnesses

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its 'stealth'

versed pine
#

but yeah it feels so weird that if someone spots u

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U don't have time to immediately just

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Sleep dart or something

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To prevent them from "calling for backup"

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But I suppose enemy faction works like us

twilit tiger
#

i did the thing where i killed everyone in the first part in 'stealth'

versed pine
#

Everyone has a view on each other as we do with our own characters

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But also

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2-4 exists

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Where 2nd pod wouldn't know unless 1 of em is in range of the 1st pod as they're still in combat

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Either way pain

gilded idol
versed pine
#

I wonder if I let them turn on the tank if it would trigger the 3rd bonus or not

#

Lucky

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Cookie

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Vikky

gilded idol
#

Rat rat rat rat rat

twilit tiger
#

Lucky

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Cookie

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Vicky!

versed pine
#

Yangtopia

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Continues to build

gilded idol
#

I have her dark ringed but dark is so competitive I have a hard time using her

#

Into water you go rat

upper vale
#

I don't think I can even consider rat for dark still

#

Since I still rely on Fed/Lich bs snuffBored

versed pine
#

Fed and lich are always a pair

#

As for your 3rd it depends

gilded idol
#

Magus is super good with them

upper vale
#

if I got Magus I would probably slot her in over Orchid maybe

versed pine
#

But also it depends on

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The raid

upper vale
#

the pairing just fits too perfectly

versed pine
#

I should learn to

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Optimize my grid for each fking raid

upper vale
#

My 3rd has been Orchid since day 1 so

versed pine
#

So I don't waste unnecessary dmg

upper vale
#

Granted I probably have a better char to slot in

versed pine
#

But bleh overhauling my loadouts again is a fking pain

twilit tiger
#

man xuan

#

back in the demo i thought holo gravel was just funny

versed pine
#

you're learning

upper vale
#

also

#

speaking of dark

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Whats Ilsa for now

twilit tiger
#

holo gravel is so based i love it

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burst

upper vale
#

got a dumbed down explanation for it

versed pine
#

What do u mean whats Ilsa

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She's poggers that's what she is

#

although I shouldn't even be using her with my current grid

twilit tiger
#

split autos mean echoes also get split, so she gets triple the damage instances so supplemental is very good with her

upper vale
#

I just have her

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bout it

versed pine
#

But hey generalized setups that just work even if its wasting or missing dmg

twilit tiger
upper vale
#

idk the terms wanker

twilit tiger
#

uh whats its actual name

#

bonus damage?

gilded idol
#

Just have 2 4* pns in every grid like me
idk if I should have it in every grid but I do anyway

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Bonus damage

versed pine
#

Bonus dmg is

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Something else

#

But bonus dmg does scale with supp dmg

gilded idol
#

Bonus damage and echo are the same thing xuan

upper vale
#

hm

gilded idol
#

You're going to confuse him more

upper vale
#

ok so it reminds me of hi3 ele dmg then

twilit tiger
#

yeah bonus damage is the actual name for echo

versed pine
#

Well u get the funny icon that indicates echoes

upper vale
#

an extra instance of dmg per hit basically

versed pine
#

But not once have I seen supplement dmg be a different number on screen

twilit tiger
#

xuan what are you talking about

gilded idol
#

Bonus damage/echo is an extra % of your damage instance that counts as another hit
So if you have 25% echo and do a 1m hit the bonus instance counts as it's own hit and will do 250k since it's 25% of 1m

twilit tiger
#

you're confusing me at this point

versed pine
#

wdym what I'm talking about

upper vale
#

neat

twilit tiger
versed pine
#

Wtf

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Mukku

#

Frenzy

#

Huh

#

I did a lot of pulls

#

And I had a mukku hiding???

upper vale
#

so what supplies echo now LappDumb

twilit tiger
gilded idol
#

Supplemental I believe just adds onto your base instance of damage?

gilded idol
#

Ilsa S1

twilit tiger
#

so each of those instances gets supp added to it

upper vale
versed pine
#

I'm fking disappointed

#

Anyways

twilit tiger
#

so eg pns on a normal char would add 50k to their normal attack, and 50k if they had 1 echo
ilsa gets 150k to her normal attack, and 150k for one echo

gilded idol
#

I determined vikky is actually kinda good for Payila cause she gives the entire team 10% echo at the start of every turn

upper vale
#

so an Ilsa grid would then be pns and what else?

gilded idol
#

And Payila can hit fat 3m normal attacks

twilit tiger
versed pine
#

Wtf do you mean what I'm talking about?

normal light
versed pine
#

Bottom buff doesn't even show up as an extra number

#

Top buff does

twilit tiger
upper vale
#

I hate reading skills and just seeing shit all over the place

versed pine
twilit tiger
#

like, wtf did you mean here

versed pine
#

Bonus/echo

twilit tiger
#

why would you talk about supp at that point its just confusing

versed pine
#

Showing extra instances of hit

twilit tiger
#

yeah

#

echo is extra hits

versed pine
#

cause supplement dmg boosts echo dmg too

#

as much as anything else

twilit tiger
#

we needed to explain what echo was first xuan

versed pine
twilit tiger
#

supp isnt part of the equation yet

gilded idol
#

Doesn't supplemental damage boost everything unless stated otherwise

upper vale
versed pine
#

Yes it does

twilit tiger
#

it boosts everything yeah

versed pine
#

I think what I was trying to say was how it scales very well with echo

#

Unless I'm mistaken about that anyways

upper vale
#

Im not even gonna ask about weapons for Ilsa. Would rather just see an image of an already built grid and keep that in the realm of game knowledge to pull from later

gilded idol
#

Magna really doesn't have a dedicated grid that does much specifically for her

#

Run some abyssal spines and maybe agonize

#

pns

upper vale
#

I mean u can throw in premium shit so

twilit tiger
#

the most you'll get for a 'grid' is throw 2 pns in there

gilded idol
#

pns

upper vale
#

I have a good handful of dark grand weaps

versed pine
#

Pain and suffering

gilded idol
versed pine
#

Suffering and pain

gilded idol
#

I used to use her with this

twilit tiger
#

ilsa is just about autos so anything for damage

gilded idol
#

Until magus came out

upper vale
gilded idol
#

And replaced her

upper vale
versed pine
gilded idol
#

I mean yea we do have been on M2 for awhile

versed pine
#

Specific grids for everything

twilit tiger
#

actually unironically ask swopey

versed pine
#

And I hate

twilit tiger
#

he does magna dark bursting

upper vale
#

bursting is 1t stuff ye?

versed pine
#

Making a grid for specific things

twilit tiger
#

not necessarily 1t

#

eresh does 3 because of how it works

upper vale
#

Yea no Eresh

#

Not for another year probably

versed pine
#

But since I'm getting closer to needing to doing higher end stuff, I really need to optimize my grids for stuff

twilit tiger
#

yeah i dont think swopey has his yet either he's doing runeslayer stuff with opus mh

upper vale
#

Don't think I can do much here really

#

and no wanker I can't max my opus skill

gilded idol
#

What class is this for

upper vale
versed pine
#

What's that grid trying to achieve again

upper vale
#

since I was getting mastery

gilded idol
#

Switch to manadiver it can make great use of that agonize

upper vale
#

using these 3 as well btw

#

I don't intend to change

gilded idol
#

Could shuffle their order though

twilit tiger
#

damn lich has a skin? and it looks really pretty

gilded idol
#

Lich usually goes last slot

lean storm
#

Whut*

#

I’ve been moaning about eresh a lot

upper vale
twilit tiger
#

i dont think either of those is a word swopey

upper vale
#

didn't even think there was a benefit to it

twilit tiger
#

yeah you've been saying how you have to cope with runeslayer havent you

#

just tell shubs how to make a grid for ilsa or whatever

lean storm
upper vale
lean storm
#

2 pns is core for eresh

#

2 celeste axes for just raw ATK

upper vale
#

Spine > 2nd PNS
Fed Spine > Eresh

#

crazy

lean storm
#

Agonize for cidala and would be bowman but no male in team so idk who else

#

Summer meg ig

upper vale
#

So much changed from my already existing grid

#

Eresh is literally not happening for another year at least

versed pine
#

WANKER

upper vale
#

57 gold rn snuffLul

versed pine
#

THERES ANOTHER WAY TO CLEAR

#

3-1

#

You can avoid

upper vale
#

unless m3 has an axe

versed pine
#

The controls

upper vale
#

with some stupid buffs I need to for

versed pine
#

it has to do with the puzzles you've been finding

#

In the amusement park

#

Holy fuck

upper vale
#

nor can I buy it

versed pine
#

I kinda want to find out

#

What it is but that requires me to clear ch 3 first

twilit tiger
#

xuan

#

i have no idea what anything you said means

#

also did i end up telling you the ferris wheel solution

versed pine
#

Hidden secondary stage clear objective

#

No

twilit tiger
#

wait so the puzzles are for a secret alt clear

versed pine
#

Apparently so

upper vale
#

what skills am I using for Mana now?

twilit tiger
#

did you figure out the ferris wheel because i cant imagine how you would except by accident

versed pine
#

Nope

twilit tiger
#

do you want to know

versed pine
#

Sure

twilit tiger
#

clockwise twice, then counterclockwise once

versed pine
#

Also I should check out reverse collapse discord

#

They seem to be hunting for secrets

gilded idol
twilit tiger
#

i did that by pure chance on my first try

versed pine
twilit tiger
#

have no idea how its the solution

upper vale
twilit tiger
#

i was like 'ill click clockwise ig, did that do anything? ill click it again, still nothing? guess ill try counterclockwise'

versed pine
#

always MM

#

Unless

twilit tiger
versed pine
#

You need something else while MM is covered by another character

#

Or

#

Boss is just immune

#

That bringing it is pointless

#

Although idk how that applies to like ultimate baha tho

#

Since it doesn't go immune until 50%

#

And idk how it is for shiny or super shiny

twilit tiger
#

xuan ultimate baha is shiny

versed pine
#

well u gotta refer to each versions of them somehow

#

You got pre rank 101

#

Then usual subaha

#

Then the spiked up version that I dont have access to cause its what

#

Rank 200 or 250 req or something?

twilit tiger
#

subaha is the most spiked up baha available

versed pine
upper vale
#

I will cope on m3 dark additions

versed pine
#

Empyreal Acension, then HL version, then subaha

#

Hmm I see

#

What do we call the first two again

upper vale
#

and hopefully trash these 2 axes and spine for 3 exaltos maybe

twilit tiger
#

ubn and ubhl

versed pine
#

Makes sense

twilit tiger
#

shiny also refers to ultimate baha but idk if its just ubhl or what