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You're doing damage to all your ops
Here is what I recommend unless you have a specific strat.
yeah this is basically what i ran as well
If you want to be lazy and copy a guide there's a ling solo, but I sense fundamental mistakes here so better clear them up amyways
You won't need so many medics and also pram alt would probably be a better borrow
you can win the kill competition very easily with lazy equipped
will do
yeah my pramerita e1 with some medics and two cheap laneholders + someone to pick off enemies for competition easily mogged the stage
k
she deals damage to the lappland boss right
ive never used her
She should reach p1 and two spots of p2 if you place her right or left from the middle
Liberator guard
Caster edition
but unliberate her with afk skill
Yep yep! Aka S2
Blue box liberator
Grant your blue box freedom to protect itself by giving it block
why do people leave ops at e2 lvl1? it's so cheap to level to at least 30 for significant stat boosts
Yeah, I usually go 40 though if they don’t have or I can’t get their module
That or if it’s useless
It's opti till 60 or afaik
oh really? i figure every module is an improvement
Some mods are just stat boosts so that makes them low return
+5 atk spd for snipers during skill with ely module 
that's fair, they are pretty expensive
massive
But 60 is still a good stopping point
Kroos alter go brrrrrr
Gamebreaking because then your snipers have more aspd at disposal so Exu2 steals and gets even better
(Untrue it’s a minimal increase 99% of times btw)
Pram should be 1 tile to left or right imho - she can't hit lanes like this
And put some dpsers down
You have 2 healers, 2 lane holders and 1 dps placed so ofc you will lose a dps race xD
spawn camp red boxes with dps 
got her to phase2 in carnevale, ascalon couldn't spawncamp and i eventually lost because of the popcorn carts
You just need to kill their spawns before they get blocked - ascalon has a cool slow for that
Pram2 also insta deletes them soon as they enter range
Since you have SA, him with some Agents should deal with the mobs comfortably.
(With S2)
And then you just focus on the boss.
1 enemy left
right
Uff
<@&586570970345635868>

Whats with the people getting hacked left and right recently
when lapp enters phase 2 get surtr twilight on the popcorn carts
get ascalon on the flame enemies
idk if she enters base
Can pramanix alters s1 push yi back in is6?
You can check weight in enemy intel / wiki etc etc. majority of bosses have weight 10 which translates to NO F WAY
🥹
Classic rookie mistake
Going for high rarity
While ThreeStars does their job fine and cheaper.
Exusiai is weak spot, change for Kroos.
Silence fine, Ptilo fine.
BluePoison switch to Spot.
If you have Cuora/Beagle, switch over Matoimaru.
Also no Vanguard
You should have Fang
For early blocking
And farming DP passively.
While Cantable is dropping for killing and farming DP stuff at moments.
She's fine to skip if you can arrange units before early rush leaks you.
And try to E1 PramaAlter ASAP.
You need her S2.
soo any good supports for pv-ex? imma be start 1
which stages?
Wisadel will trivial all of them
90% dmg reduction , you aint wisadeling anything there
ex-1 will the most annoying once is it's just a number spam
I did
(offensively throwing Ines and other invis reveals)
or just jse tragodia and deals shit ton of elem dmg , and fck the dmg reduction
(For PV-EX-1 the left side can be soloed by Lutonada.)
or haruka if you have good enough dps 
Healers have mid usage since ops don't retreat during carneval
My EX-1 CM was like Lutonada + like 3 or so reapers 
im on 1 currently
fair enough
you normally dont get fireworks in a lot of the pv stages if you dont actually protect the fuse
who?
The 4* Juggernaut.

(Don't raise her for this stage only, she isn't that great usually.)
Funny 4* rat who heals when whoever she blocks cease existing
oh
...? If you want to ignore the main gimmick of the event that's fine I guess...
ill look in a bit
If you want to borrow I have her at E2.
sure why not
Lyre#1359
which skill?
Doesn't matter, she won't get to attack anyway. Just be warned that she does cost 32 DP.
yiks
Muddy levels
well i sent
I just need 90k LMD more to max level her....
Not sure if I'll do Masteries or not, will have to see.
i did an oops lmao
estelle almost clears cm leftside 
cm?
Challenge Mode.
challenge mode
"Hey 1 more
"
anything for my wang piggy bank saving
Unfortunately Lutonada can't solo PV-S-1 normal by herself.

Only CM.
Only in this stupid game
. And maybe some others
But yeah, it's nice when 4*/5* ops have really gimmicky abilities.
It is, and yet the second one is talked about #help it’s just
Their utter garbage or some other comment that says, “This Operator is a complete waste”
-# I'll always shill Lunacub as a fun operator.

I'm curious to see what the next Vector Breakthrough Special Frontiers will be, hopefully not so many will require Ethan again.
I moduled her for Vector 
cm removes enemies 
Also they're slower because they stop to do their ranged attacks.
peak clownfest
I remember doing vec-c and -d no buffs
I learned more about mechanist than I wanted to

I unfortunately had to go a bit more all out on SP08 due to lacking options (so I couldn't use its buff).
Finally, logos s3 was indeed enough dps
what was sp08 again?
oh yeah that one
Both ones with a Witchcraft Altar I just bypassed the bombs because I couldn't be bothered, used Skadi for one and Mon3tr for the other.
i dont think i am capable of winning
lapp boss wipes everything i place down, pramanix doesnt even attack unless she uses skill??
im able to take care of popcorn carts until its spawner gets closer
Christmas duo, heh.
dancers get to blue objective point and i cant kill them in time
it was an extremely schizo clear (and arkrec record since nobody bothered to try 2op)
S2? That's her unlimited duration Skill.
ive been using s3
Use her S2, S3 is more for burst situations.
Also creates summons on the blue boxes that have three block.
got it
Vigil, Philae and Aroma? Huh, interesting.
vigil is to block the flame passive enemies
aroma is to levitate the next wave of those enemies but uh
never been able to use her because lapp boss wipes everything
philae is for emergency blocking
I imagine there are better (and cheaper) alternatives, but I guess Philae can use S1 here a bit.

cuora
well
thats the point of her class
she gains triple the defence and higher attack and has true aoe for the price of not being able to attack outside of skills
S2 cant reach lapp boss
?
Just put her in the middle.
Oh that's funny, when both Yu's and Hoshiguma's S3s are active the latter regenerates incredibly fast from Elemental Injury.
yeah I was able to get pretty close to clear with e1 pram rose salt + purestream with vulpi hadiya ascalon cuora laneholding + gravel bait
it shouldn't be that hard
just needed more healing tbh
or tankier laneholders
My pram is E2 but yea she carries if she’s there in the middle
Funnily enough you can do the same in PV-S5
i cant
whisperain has to be in the middle
pramanix has to be on the left to protect her from carnevale death
this is my best run so far
Why does she need to be in the middle? Can't you place her one tile to the right facing left?
flame dancer enemy
gives whisperain flames
and it sentences her to death after carnevale
Wait u r borrowing operator but still not clearing? Like u can just borrow a haruka s2 n plop down defenders block the lanes then afk n win 
i did it <3
lin kind of carried but
i'm glad amiya kaltsit true dmg combo was insanely good
thanks for the person who sent the firerworks layout
was a lifesaver here LOL
SLOW REALLY HELPED
WITH THE SPAM
until your defenders have their def set to 0 and lappland 1 shots everything
Place Whisperain to the left of Ptilopsis then facing right.
Make use of her Therapist range.

Pramanix gets granted purple flames during carnevale and dies
you need to place pram first before the others
no, the haruka bubble is enuf to tank everything 
I tried with Silence and Whisperain (both E1L50~60) and Pramanix didn't die, dunno.
Is that Texas there in the left middle?
You might rather want to have SilverAsh there.
thats why u dont want whisper near the fire dancers, u can just put her farther away to left
she not enuf hp tank fire proc
can't you use exusiai + sa s3 bird for phase 1
She has to tank damage from lapp boss
on pv-ex-8 exu2 + sa bird deleted the hp bar 
Can haruka attack lapp boss phase1
do you have any masteries on exu or sa s3?
I dont have sa e2
oh 
ok, u use pram2 s2 instead, put her at whisper place, everyone on ranged tile shift to left by 1 tile, this way ur pram is afk s2 do dmg to lapp boss n whole map, ur whisper wont be burn by flame cause our of ranged when flame r blocked by cuora 
n cause ur pram is afk s2 permanently atking flame dancer die faster n wont burn u
any masteries on surtr?
cause in ur vid no one is atking flame dancer when being blocked by cuora cause ur pram is s3 n not available
see u can do like this
all ur healer safe to the left side
dont need strong healer, just normal healer 3 star is enuf
then u make fire work burn floor
n just press skill when u need to to heal more etc
If you are still struggling I recommend quickly do some IS5 to level up Raidian and get some materials to gain some other levels as well.
Will be around 2-3 hours but it’s definitely worth it.
pramanix was burned
i dont have raidian
Raidian is a welfare operator from IS, and can only be leveled there as well.
by enemy or what, dont make firework range hit her
she can tank burn proc wont die one shot
but need to be healed
n she has passive survive 1 death
not firework
it was the fire dancer enemy
Did u move ur cuora to cardigan position cause after pram go middle s2 she cannot hit fire dancer if ur cuora at original position in ur previous vid
She can but she not gonna be enuf to kill boss n the plan is she s2 healing instead, if u have amiya caster u can use her kill boss
medics die [somehow 1 shotted]
everyone dies
boss at half hp
carnevale
cant do anything because everyone's dp cost is high or still recovering
cinema
YESSS
you're welcome
also had problems with the boss getting rid of your defens before you could do anything?
cause i sure as hell am trying to prevent the first few mask guys from getting through
Unironically you can use Lin as well it's funny cuz that's the legit perfect spot for her
That's how I beat her
😭
if you are borrowing you can place pram2 in the middle and protect her with healers and blockers on pv-10
U gotta use your skills at the right time to deal with the hordes + damage her when her shield is down.
if you could dedicate a small squad for right squad for them
got what
Borrowed W'isadel

got me the stage
PV 10
just wisadel your problem away
look at my profile pic
no wisadel 
say what you want but the ROACH IS IMMORTAL
(the (non-cannon) reason we dont see her in endfield)
cc
Too many cars
stall until the fuse can get back to the fireworks
Or trucks rather
either stall or use true/elemental damage
not enough 4 block 
dont they have dr 
yeah but only for physical and arts
oh 
elemental and true dmg bypas dr
since when? 
since the dr are only for phy and arts 
I think if you look up a big brain clear you can stall with roadblocks
Is surtr elemental damage
no
thats literally what it meant for , or if youre stacked enuff bring klasit and mon3ter
there are damage reduction that also affect true and elemental

i just borrowed mon3ter and let her do its things
well its called "damage reduction" just which one it reduces 
You make them go across whole map back and forth with retreating and putting new roadblock until Carnaval starts. Watch KyostinV lowend guide how to.
When the carnival stops, who does it kill
You started to do one more, you should have like 30 roadblocks.
At worst you can bring Trag and he will cheeze out thorough this battle easily.
Just place pram and do this
Which one is best for this team
Not confirmed but I think pram2 snow slows the fuse 
Map dependant
why the fuck is trag circle a little filled
?
weird

I figured since the others are movement speed decrease it would affect it
its because fuse is invuln
not invincible ig
Ascalon doesnt affect
but Harmonie does for some unknown reason
Pram2 needs to do damage first before slow iirc
exp
it's almost empty
grrr
yiiikes

challenge mode?
not even 
uhh can you drop ur krooster
https://www.krooster.com/u/chaell
here u go mate, sorry for bein' late
yeaaa but I don't have haruka
support unit?
It's not like anyone farm this stage
pretty sure like 20% of people farm this stage
yeah bring nightingale or haruka from support units and you should be alright
theres a lot of Aketon copers
Aketon is pretty common nowadays i believe
you should update it
cuz tragodia isn't here but on screen that you took he appears
or do this with replacing ulpianus for hoshi2
Had a hunch that it might work, turns out it actually work LMAO. The power of newer ops are so bonker, Saki casually clear 2 lanes + help dps boss at once, Haruka solo healing and Ulpianus become unkillable vs DBS. Saki notes RNG sometimes leave enemies with 1 hp run outside her range, that's why Ulpianus on S1 to catch stragglers.
Ulpi S1 is like a puller that doesnt attack off skill if you range it right 
maybe its worth to E2 him then even with +600 atk
@shrewd inlet Show team here
I fail to see why u can't do damage with this team
Just go swap haruka for wis
S2 exu2
Hoshi holds lane on top
And why I say this is because u literally have the same roster like me

Except lapp2 did nothing except trust farm
last time i did almost kill her but after that its only half max hp
Ur firework placement might be an issue
i dont have her
what about wis
Wis holds top lane but u can substitute with someone else
i dont have her
Yeah ik that's why substitute wis with someone
ah
pram2 might work better tho
Oh
normal stages are easy i can just brute force it
Hold up
it's been a while since I did this stage

@shrewd inlet
Actually low-key u don't need pram2
reed alter sandwich works lol
Neat
ulpia s2 is great for lane holding
And this is exactly why I tell people to build gladia sometimes 
lol
thanks for helping btw

oh nah
All the previous stage u can brute force like u did
But so I don't forget I'll redo it again and give small walkthrough
@shrewd inlet Place it in a way that lapp2 targets whoever is in pram2 spot
Deploy exu2 only when her damage reduction is down
what stage is that
ohh
it look easier than ex
Wis first top right face left
When u have enough dp deploy sash2 and immediately activate Wis s3
So she targets revenant
Then gladia into ulpi cuz she does no dmg to ulpi
Then monster into pram2
There's trumpet and fire dancer
And big truck
Not too hard dw ulpi mogs them
Fire dancer on top middle Wis s3 explodes them in one shot after u use sash2 s2 or s3 invis reveal
These enemies are very annoying cuz of invis but u know sash2 being a stupidly powerful vanguard
does vulpis reveal invis
No sadly
sad
Fire dancer never goes top right btw
does lappland jump down the stage again
ima just reedic sandwich her
i believe in my e1 lvl70 skill level 3 reed alter
trucks are fine
what is the condition in cm tho
ah hell nah
yeah
Anyways good luck, first stage of S is quite easy
Have someone hold lane on top and middle u have hoshi2 and someone hold
Cuz when firework start everyone will suicide rush into firework and fall into pit

s-1 is luto showcase
Is Lumin able to remove Def reduction from corrosion burst?
Nope
Only player retreat/death will return DEF to normal.

Shit. Well, time to borrow Eyja Alter for 12-20

I can tank enemies with 0 DEF.
I still remember mine H12-4, where everyone doesn't have any, lmao.

some ops gimmick treated as redeploy too
I just came back from a long break, are there any must-pull operators in the future?
Wang
when is he/she coming?
Ty
Summer.
He's dude.
He's a trapper similar to dorothy
But his trap can damage air and shred though def
Are Silverash alter and Paramanix alter time limited? Is it better for me to save 300 pulls to (cope) the next anniv banner? I also dont have Hoshiguma alter. Will she also be available in the 300 pity shop?
Next Anni Metawise is prob a lil lower than Silverash/Pramanix.
Tbh kaltist alternative is kinda mid
She's good for utilities,closure is kinda mid too
Yeah so I save 300 to get them from pity shop
Will Para alter show up in the Anniv 300 pity or 25$ selector? Tbh I'm an afknight enjoyer
I have no idea tbh
Ty 
Also I heard that Zima alter is good for afk, how good is she compared to good ol Thorn/mountain/blaze?
Tf
the bar is low af
Both kalter and closure are decent good at least
Yah that what I say
No and no
A lot better
Mid is not decent
Mid is like hool
For me it is
Decent is like ray
ok imma pull zima then
Zima alter is good u should pull
I think Kal is fairly good.
Being able to use some important skills twice in a row and very good AOE true damage is helpful.
Closure is alright.
I mean for utilities
She is good

last time I was playing hool was 💩
Mid is neither good nor bad, Decent is at least good at some specific place
For me good > decent > mid
So decent is like serviceable, and mid is fairly bad.
For me it op>mid>useble

Llrts me note
If you want to be detailed there's like above average and sub-par
Sub-par is slightly worse than expected and Above Average is self explanatory because its slightly performing better than expected
Then there's Bad and Garbage
Bad - has a job but not good at it
Garbage - has no job and doesn't do anything noteworthy
That's what I think anyway
People usually default to non-meta = garbage or mid = garbage
nowadays at least
Non-meta = garbage is insane
Have you seen the people treating Wis'adel like some biblical gospel 🚬
Yeah and she is overrated
Someone actually using meaningful, unambiguous descriptors instead of letter grades in a tier list? Truly this is uncharted territory. Absolute madness.
I'd say to use "Non-Functional" or "Unusable" instead of "Garbage" as the bottom tier, though, just to emphasize that the category comprises complete and total irrelevance.
A little overrated, I know she doesn't function whenever def reaches 5k (not counting IS because relics) or Dmg Reflect is in the equation
Unusable is kinda vague as well.
The CN players can actually beat Chapter 16 with 3 Stars for some reason.
They are cn
They been doing crazy stuffs
😭
They can beat everything with 3 and 4 stars
That's not vague at all. "Has no job and doesn't do anything noteworthy" is a sound definition for "unusable"
For who know how
We also have those players in Global
So can the devs, if what I've heard about their testing methods is still true.
Not as much as the cn
Yeah, I heard that's exactly how the devs test new maps.
Ok what
Don't know if it's still true, that interview was years ago, long before I started playing.
Dr Silvergun is a famous 4★ Player, ILoveAmiya is a well known 3★ Player and 0SanityLowy is a well established E0Lvl1 Player
Tbf 17.02% (1.4 billion) of the Total World Population is in China
Eckogen and KyoStinV do low-rarity clear guides, too. So there's even guide gods clearing with low-stars.
I think they mostly use strategy from cn
There a whole pages of strat
For cn
Some of their videos are kinda similar
Maybe, but I can't read Chinese.
Optimization tends toward convergence.
Same reason wheels are always round.
Or why everything turns into a crab.
Anyway, I'm still trying to find it, but at some point, a fan asked HG how they playtest new maps, and the answer was that they use low-star units.
I mean it has to be possible with low rarity ops anyway
For a healthy game
"has to" in what sense? They could say "whale or GTFO" if they wanted to, and I'm glad they don't.
I'm gonna keep looking, in any case. It's gonna bother me all day if I can't find it.
Hrrrm. Wiki says it was on the global website, and provides a link, but the page doesn't load for me. https://www.arknights.global/news/110
Welcome to the official website of Arknights. Arknights is a strategic RPG mobile game with a fantasy theme.
look for what
The scroll bar.
the what now
?
Exactly.
@chrome igloo what are you struggling with
Bother with wut
My ops keep dying by lappy (Espescially the medics and pramalter) and I can't control the crowds. Also still don't understand what should I do when the fireworks exploded
Can’t you cycle wisadel S3
I took reference from this video
https://youtu.be/ATYq_dQWzDA?si=RWL1SkAlohsf2OgJ
※編成に昇進2のオペレーターがいないと動画と同じ練度のウィシャデルが借りれませんのでご注意ください
ウィシャデルを使い終わった方は戦友の削除をお願いします。
たくさんのドクターのためにご協力をお願いします。
戦友があふれた時は予告なく削...
And use her summons to tank Lapp
Seems like that’s what they’re doing there as well
What are you struggling to replicate in the vid
So in today environment
Support class is heavy hiters
Vanguard bring utility to the team

if Amiya breakdancing at some point isn't already canon, it needs to be
hi how do people usually deal with talulah's meteor thing in JT8-3?
The humble gravel:
Or just use 6 ops to deal with her during the first phase, then another 6 or 7 for the 2nd phase 
haruka can straight up heal through it
Ulpi gladiia leizi clear 
Heavyrain (camouflage works)
s2 or s3?
S3
borrow 
Borrowing an Op
Heya Arf 
Hey Astrel
So Luna club
Lunacubs great there, but she doesn’t help your other operators live, heavyrain s2 lasts long enough (at m3) to dodge all but one of the fireballs. I wouldn’t actually recommend using heavyrain for Talulah, but it is funny
You should really put your operators behind bassline or czerny and have them tank everything
As the fireballs pass through camouflaged operators
@elder flume why is it inconsistent 
first deploy is never hit because mod wants cat to be within 8 squares
ok
then what about every other rdp?
first was not reduced
second was
third wasnt

the next rdp counts previous as the mod req done
since first deploy was within 8 squares
meaning second deploy can be placed anywhere to get buff
but because second deploy wasnt within 8 tiles then third deploy no buff
cat rdp is always for the next
yeah but saying that it works for cat is also somewhat misleading
when it works for every deployment normally
uhhh
so it somewhat works
oh yeah i was just testing it wrong then undeploying to quickly so it didnt work each time
waiting a second for it makes only the first deployment have an issue
pretty sure it works the same for every summon
you just cant see it on ops like Raidian because they have 2 summons in 1 and the rdp is alr going on default speed before you placed it
yeee
oh this is funny
the robots are stuck operating the pillar
and next wave wont start because they didnt leave yet
because of pram ice block
oh now one of the bottom left guys destroyed some of the tiles there, so new tiles ended up covering where the robot is now
so it (slowly) dies

I know how to counter wisadel brainrot. Civilians, who drain LP on death, red healthbar
Don't give them ideas.
or just
insert spiky chest
Is Cutter decent at all?
As yurodstvo has only 800 def exu2 and wisadel should be able to deal with her? Or is it already better to bring someone with high dph like lemuen or true/elemental dps? Still don't understand the whole math of the damage
H stage yurodstvo is 130k hp 1040 def 
Can't even wang nuke it probably as there is 70 res on 16-16 and I need to multiply it by 1.2 or even 1.3 for hell stage if I got it right. He has res ignore but not that good methinks
Yurodstvo isn’t that tanky
Bro encountered counter of damage per screenshot / true damage - Enemy actually having hp
16-16 yurodstvo dies to tequila, no way wang can’t
Oh, so if not skill issue she might be easy to deal with, easier than prts
As long as she isn’t invisible or debuffing your attack speed she can’t really survive much
its not yoro you should be worried , those walking mech are the problem
Wang ignored 36 res.
At max
The mechs are the real boss
dude be throwing rocket and out of sudden my ops gone 
Just use rose salt
ehh dont hv her , i just let surtr deal with most of the mech in cp16
i love these stages where you can switch one block around and it takes the enemies 51 years to maneuver back around to the other side
10* operator roadblock proving its power once again 
(also how could you let pram die
)
Do you guys know how to increase alliance stack on stronghold? Im struggling
Yes.
How
by reading
You read ops what they does by effect.
Here's example of May.
When bought, +2 to Precision and Victoria every time.
Papyrus gives +4 to Sargon when she activates the skill. Once per Round.
I mean...i guess but is there any other way other than bought may or other,or i maybe miss something
Philae also +4 to Sargon and also when activates the skills, but no restrictions of max.
Hmm hmm hmm alr
Thanks dude
And read EVERY SINGLE ONE.

And build the team to try get max value from getting stacks.
its actually a pretty complicated game mode with TONS of rng so don't feel bad if you don't understand it right away
theres a lot of different types of combinations for it
me when I want to test sakiko with victoria hammers but out of 10 games I didn't get her once
me when my reading comprehension isnt
and I fail to raise the yan stacks with wanping
how I wish there's a simplified list of ops' attribute list in SP than reading them 1 by 1 ingame 
If u lazy think just get some aid op n +2/4 every turn, but ya reading n doing better combo help more 
Nah im fine,i already understand thx to @pearl compass
Those little shit, dancing fire man get perma frozen outside of pramalt range.....
Had to bring 1 more ops to kill em fast
Rather than waiting for the ice to kill em so slow
you can beat it tho? tragodia s2 is overkill already 
Also underleveled not even tbh
What Crownslayer is doing here? And Hoshi?
Trust farming prob 
If they have nothing better to fill the squad slots with as well
BP and Lapp facing up should do some damage to the boss, Tragodia can mop up whatever is left
Their damage is too damn low.
They will be glad to defend mid and bottom lanes instead.
The level recommendations on stages are not something to really follow
Also Why Lumen, do you not have any other healers?
I hate lappland so much

🍍 🍕
I might like her more if her damageable window was easier to manipulate, as it stands the only way to make it consistent is to spend 10 minutes slowly knocking her down with valarqvin
Wait you can just true damage through her as well.
Lemme try with Amiya Caster
Always thought she is like invincible without winning the Carnival.
Just immense DR
She moves too much for any 5* to kill her through her dr, I originally tried caster amiya + valarqvin + bobbing + cliffheart and it wasn’t enough
90% damage reduction does that
So it’s like the trucks alright.
Except unlike the trucks, she doesn't die to two necrosis bursts
I first just cleared it by getting a Lappland Alter, buffing it with Skalter and Warfarin.
And then release when the Carnival ends.
But I actually want to try with 5 Stars.
Hand over your lappland alter 
It’s not even mine I lend
Hand over your skalter then 
Wdym ppl in this server thinks she is trash from what I seen.
Bards are great, it’s just that most 6*s don’t need them
I only managed to burst down lappland because uika was buffing tequila, snowhunter and umiri
I actually have an E2 snowhunter
I know she is not like the greatest but she is my first E6 5 Star so I decided to do it anyway.
Might be the most impactful m3 on a 5*
What abt…. coldshot
The only 5 Star mastery I have is Surfer.
But now she kinda kills things too fast I actually lose DP.
I have Amiya mastery too because she is her you know
viability in 3... 2... oh! and blocked by increased reload time!
Coldshot is actually really good, her s2 is a sustained burst skill, deals significant damage every 2.4 seconds which is enough to overcome most units defence
Time to buy her skin 
The increased reload time increase her dps
you'd buy her skin regardless
Read her talent properly
Nuh uh me poor
It increases her damage so much that her module decreases her dps until mod3
Time to wait for new mod
She really should of had mod y
Wait till the S stages...
I’ve done all of them except s-5
I actually like the box shifting. It’s like a puzzle very interesting
That's the one she is in 
That’s why I haven’t done it yet
Oh that yeah I am not there yet.
s-5 is easier than s-3 imo 
Whats S3
reminds me of a few other 5* who got their module way too early and got the worse trait
I don’t remember it being that bad
Unless you get your tanks 2shotted by Lappy...
S3 is with the box shifting I think
roadblock nonsense
The one with the fire guys walking around?
I always use tacticians to tank big range hits. My favorite class all-around.
I use E0lvl 1 cs

As part of the CN community I can say whenever there is these type of roadblock maps, there are going to be crazy clears.
Just greyy alter for this one
iirc pram can solo it but only cm mode
don't have, used trag s2 instead 
Ascalon is great on that map
Ohhh dope
I’d imagine mantra would be incredible here, with all the clumped up invisible enemies
Oh elemental damage as well maybe
Idk I never used her cuz at E1
Is she even worth raising if I don’t have specific sinergy for her
She’s better than logos in 90% of situations
why do you need an op to have synergy to decide raising them or not 
and even then, the bare minimum for a "synergy" with mantra is to have a skill
For example Blaze Alter kinda needs Yu
Unless you are doing some perma stun strat in CC
Blaze alter s3 need yu or bobbing
Ye that might also be why I kinda hate her in Stronghold. But also because she burst once and next enemies arrive.
her s2 works fine on her own 
How fast does Bobbing even apply Burn?
How good is Viviana synergy with Yu?
Not needed
Ahh
I don't use her like that.
Viviana can make burst most the enemy in two or three hits.
Wait i thought viviana benefit from yu Burn im dumb 
So Yu is doing nothing for her
viviana applies burn by herself just fine
vivi can supply enough burn yeah
S1 inflicts burn in one use to elites and two to bosses for the first burst, 2 and three for every time after. S2 inflicts burn in one use to anything on the first burst, and two to bosses after that
Yea, but why you just use Yu alone instead?
Or Vivi.
With Mod.
True im so dumb 
If she can procc it fine ofc.
Noted
true
I wish I get Yu next banner but I don’t think I have 300 nor do I have that luck.
Believe in off rate 
Though with bobbing he needs to be e2 m6 p5 mod3 max trust and at least level 77 to get those burn speeds
The max trust is the important part as it means that a borrowed bobbing won’t be able to reach the same rate of burn infliction as an owned one
Wouldn't the support just need to have 200% Trust?
Support units have half trust
I thought the max stat buff was at 100% Trust though.
200 is for borrowing
It displayed 101% trust, the actual trust is 200%
Only apply for borrow, so the displayed% is half of actual trust
Oh they fixed the 101% bs 🍿
Oh yea, related to restrict lift ig
No more half trust too (welp quarter in this case), u get same trust from borrow
So they lift em all 🏋️♂️
I've just realized
Why the best source of true damage are all from medics
Oh I forgot about her
Does Logos has true damage? I only remember he has elemental proc
S1
Oh that does count as true damage
(Not the boss killing kind, but still)
lmao
BlazeAlter reborn doesn't activated upon Carnival.
And she gets event effect instead.
And dies upon its end.

we forgot nearlter?
Oh she as well
Don't know about the exact number comparison tho
Like for general content do we even need 'true damage'?
Ahh understandable
Does people in cn use kalter for her true damage on s2 or her s3 mainly?
Curious on how good her dps is
Feels like average honestly.
I don't know much tbh
But s2 seems to be better for general usage, while s3 is more niche
Ahh
Should've made it not based on ammo so mon3tr can become her best buffer
Not worse or better than mont3r?
mon3tr deals more damage
💀
not like, a lot more, but still more
they'll prob have different use cases
kal's near invulnerability is nice
Should be between Kaltsit S3 and Monsta S3. Didn't looked at sheet.
So she is still good operator to have
also i still dont know what the hps is
No reason to not pull i mean
looks high though
Should've been like Lumen and Lemuen that Ammo isn't consumed for normal attacks.


Ngl she would go nut in stronghold
...But you will need a atsp buff lol
literally true
literally her best future 
nah we are all ready for the new welfare to go nuts
the new mystic caster boutta give 1 agile per fund spent trust
I've seen people compared kalter s2 to wisadel s3
The thing is, wisadel s3 can cover a fking continent, doesn't waste ammo on allies, and has better dmg (assuming not against bloated def)
its not comparable to wisadel s3, i dont get that comparison
Uhh i forgot she can also waste ammo huh
wisadel does more than twice as much damage in a much larger radius

they are…both ammo skills
and that’s about it tbh
Kinda same AOE shit thing
Kalter is 50k true which is okay ish
but the problem is wang does more damage even against 100 res
so you need to also have damage reduction or dodge for it to matter
I didnt play cn so wang really is that broken huh
kalter is good but i genuinely dont see a reason to pull her besides just being limited and another true dmg source

her s3 has dreams
might be a goated skill
How about closure then?
closure very nice
skyranger buffs 
Hmm
competing for top vg rn
I think there’s a good argument for all 3
she seems to be more about damage than dp
yeah thats fair
they all have ups and downs
imo
Mandragora copium.

True
this will be huge for rosmontis alter
I feel like Closure could have been more creative (also man what is that Rhodes Island buff) but I like the Reinforcement mechanic at least.
either way im probably pulling if i have 200 to spark skalter
Im cool with either since i plan to use my pulls on wang
Prob go 100 then dip
Ah next summer limited can we spark hoshi2?
Next Carnival yeah.
Sweett
on whatever the limited after kalter is
Yea will hold my pulls and decide later
Already at three hundred so I got time to save which is nice.
Doing Ptio's First Module Mission. Any advice on who to put (Silveralt cheese is the route I'm going)
(It is silveralt cheese & ptio's mission meaning no defenders nor medics besides Ptio)
(Just in case you don't know yet, for the other mission you can run Heart of Surging Flame stages since they cost 0 Sanity.)
just blast it with modern ops, what's even the difficulty there 
I have to 3 star it
And the 2 screenshots are
All the ops I have leveled
My modern operator is the main guy here (silveralt)
you've never did the stage normally? 
I got access to the module mission
Before I even did the stage
And I'm up for a challenge
I just need to know if some adjustments are in order
how about you try it first then
there's nothing to adjust if there's no strategy in the first place


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this is where ya go for strat advice yeah?
looking for aPV-10 solution cause this ain't working
Yes she is useful for stripping invis
??????
No
She doesn't cook shit
Same for Jackie
Vigna, Reed
Btw why Reed E2-80?

Lutonada?!!!!
WTF are you smoking bruh
Reed i had one of those level 80 things
Lutonada was just my best pull at the time
Dude, I'm gonna remove half of your squad now.
Remove Lutonada, Vigna, Reed, Proviso, Jackie.
Like I'm not kidding
They don't belong here
can also replace whisperain with a 4star
well for pv-10 even ansel + hibiscus work but yeah probably need more than one anyway
All the time.
so who di i replace with what
i have maxed gavial
Shit.
Like you leveled at least 4 shitty ops.
Should've asked what to level in help.
Because a lots of mats just gone from you to shit.

So, Ansel.
I hope he's E1-55.
And not E0-1.
he is
reed is fine
her only major roadblock is the investment price, but it's moot here anyways since she's alr raised
so reed is ok?
On the lower end of 5*s



