#strategy

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deft marlin
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Don’t fill the high ground.

woven plinth
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You're doing damage to all your ops

deft marlin
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Here is what I recommend unless you have a specific strat.

topaz sun
hidden axle
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If you want to be lazy and copy a guide there's a ling solo, but I sense fundamental mistakes here so better clear them up amyways

woven plinth
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You won't need so many medics and also pram alt would probably be a better borrow

topaz sun
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you can win the kill competition very easily with lazy equipped

exotic grove
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yeah my pramerita e1 with some medics and two cheap laneholders + someone to pick off enemies for competition easily mogged the stage

uncut musk
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she deals damage to the lappland boss right

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ive never used her

woven plinth
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She should reach p1 and two spots of p2 if you place her right or left from the middle

fierce narwhal
glacial hound
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but unliberate her with afk skill

fierce narwhal
woven plinth
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Blue box liberator

fierce narwhal
vague idol
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why do people leave ops at e2 lvl1? it's so cheap to level to at least 30 for significant stat boosts

fierce narwhal
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That or if it’s useless

woven plinth
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It's opti till 60 or afaik

vague idol
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oh really? i figure every module is an improvement

woven plinth
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Some mods are just stat boosts so that makes them low return

glacial hound
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+5 atk spd for snipers during skill with ely module Bnuuy

vague idol
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that's fair, they are pretty expensive

cinder minnow
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But 60 is still a good stopping point

cinder minnow
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(Untrue it’s a minimal increase 99% of times btw)

uncut musk
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how do i avoid her wiping everything?

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in phase 2

woven plinth
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Pram should be 1 tile to left or right imho - she can't hit lanes like this

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And put some dpsers down

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You have 2 healers, 2 lane holders and 1 dps placed so ofc you will lose a dps race xD

glacial hound
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spawn camp red boxes with dps ReedBean

uncut musk
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got her to phase2 in carnevale, ascalon couldn't spawncamp and i eventually lost because of the popcorn carts

woven plinth
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You just need to kill their spawns before they get blocked - ascalon has a cool slow for that

cinder minnow
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Pram2 also insta deletes them soon as they enter range

deft marlin
# uncut musk uhh

Since you have SA, him with some Agents should deal with the mobs comfortably.
(With S2)

And then you just focus on the boss.

uncut musk
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1 enemy left

deft marlin
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Uff

woven plinth
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<@&586570970345635868>

astral cosmos
woven plinth
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Whats with the people getting hacked left and right recently

astral cosmos
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gullible

uncut musk
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when lapp enters phase 2 get surtr twilight on the popcorn carts

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get ascalon on the flame enemies

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idk if she enters base

full stump
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Can pramanix alters s1 push yi back in is6?

glass monolith
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You can check weight in enemy intel / wiki etc etc. majority of bosses have weight 10 which translates to NO F WAY

full stump
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Dang

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Ty!

pearl sluice
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i just started this game idk what im doin

pearl compass
pearl sluice
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🥹

pearl compass
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Classic rookie mistake

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Going for high rarity

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While ThreeStars does their job fine and cheaper.

pearl compass
# pearl sluice 🥹

Exusiai is weak spot, change for Kroos.
Silence fine, Ptilo fine.
BluePoison switch to Spot.
If you have Cuora/Beagle, switch over Matoimaru.

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Also no Vanguard

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You should have Fang

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For early blocking

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And farming DP passively.

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While Cantable is dropping for killing and farming DP stuff at moments.

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She's fine to skip if you can arrange units before early rush leaks you.

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And try to E1 PramaAlter ASAP.

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You need her S2.

faint scaffold
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soo any good supports for pv-ex? imma be start 1

lunar crane
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which stages?

woven plinth
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Wisadel will trivial all of them

lunar crane
woven plinth
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ex-1 will the most annoying once is it's just a number spam

glass monolith
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(offensively throwing Ines and other invis reveals)

lunar crane
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or just jse tragodia and deals shit ton of elem dmg , and fck the dmg reduction

drowsy heart
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(For PV-EX-1 the left side can be soloed by Lutonada.)

glacial hound
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or haruka if you have good enough dps Bnuuy

woven plinth
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Healers have mid usage since ops don't retreat during carneval

glass monolith
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My EX-1 CM was like Lutonada + like 3 or so reapers FrankaWheeze

faint scaffold
faint scaffold
glacial hound
drowsy heart
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The 4* Juggernaut.
ReedBean
(Don't raise her for this stage only, she isn't that great usually.)

glass monolith
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Funny 4* rat who heals when whoever she blocks cease existing

faint scaffold
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oh

woven plinth
drowsy heart
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If you want to borrow I have her at E2.

faint scaffold
drowsy heart
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Lyre#1359

faint scaffold
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which skill?

drowsy heart
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Doesn't matter, she won't get to attack anyway. Just be warned that she does cost 32 DP.

faint scaffold
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yiks

woven plinth
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Muddy levels

faint scaffold
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well i sent

drowsy heart
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I just need 90k LMD more to max level her....
Not sure if I'll do Masteries or not, will have to see.

faint scaffold
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i did an oops lmao

astral cosmos
faint scaffold
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cm?

drowsy heart
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Challenge Mode.

woven plinth
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challenge mode

glass monolith
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"Hey 1 more Originite "

lunar crane
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anything for my wang piggy bank saving

drowsy heart
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Unfortunately Lutonada can't solo PV-S-1 normal by herself.
PensiveRocc
Only CM.

glass monolith
drowsy heart
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But yeah, it's nice when 4*/5* ops have really gimmicky abilities.

fierce narwhal
drowsy heart
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-# I'll always shill Lunacub as a fun operator.
ReedBean

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I'm curious to see what the next Vector Breakthrough Special Frontiers will be, hopefully not so many will require Ethan again.

glass monolith
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I moduled her for Vector FrankaWheeze

drowsy heart
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Also they're slower because they stop to do their ranged attacks.

glass monolith
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peak clownfest

fringe solstice
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I remember doing vec-c and -d no buffs

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I learned more about mechanist than I wanted to

glass monolith
drowsy heart
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I unfortunately had to go a bit more all out on SP08 due to lacking options (so I couldn't use its buff).

hallow magnet
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Finally, logos s3 was indeed enough dps

drowsy heart
astral cosmos
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oh yeah that one

drowsy heart
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Both ones with a Witchcraft Altar I just bypassed the bombs because I couldn't be bothered, used Skadi for one and Mon3tr for the other.

astral cosmos
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it was a really fun one

uncut musk
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lapp boss wipes everything i place down, pramanix doesnt even attack unless she uses skill??

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im able to take care of popcorn carts until its spawner gets closer

drowsy heart
uncut musk
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dancers get to blue objective point and i cant kill them in time

astral cosmos
drowsy heart
uncut musk
drowsy heart
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Use her S2, S3 is more for burst situations.

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Also creates summons on the blue boxes that have three block.

uncut musk
uncut musk
drowsy heart
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Vigil, Philae and Aroma? Huh, interesting.

uncut musk
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aroma is to levitate the next wave of those enemies but uh

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never been able to use her because lapp boss wipes everything

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philae is for emergency blocking

drowsy heart
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I imagine there are better (and cheaper) alternatives, but I guess Philae can use S1 here a bit.
ReedBean

uncut musk
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cuora

daring cloak
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thats the point of her class

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she gains triple the defence and higher attack and has true aoe for the price of not being able to attack outside of skills

uncut musk
drowsy heart
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Just put her in the middle.

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Oh that's funny, when both Yu's and Hoshiguma's S3s are active the latter regenerates incredibly fast from Elemental Injury.

exotic grove
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yeah I was able to get pretty close to clear with e1 pram rose salt + purestream with vulpi hadiya ascalon cuora laneholding + gravel bait
it shouldn't be that hard

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just needed more healing tbh
or tankier laneholders

rustic eagle
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My pram is E2 but yea she carries if she’s there in the middle

cinder minnow
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Funnily enough you can do the same in PV-S5

uncut musk
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whisperain has to be in the middle

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pramanix has to be on the left to protect her from carnevale death

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this is my best run so far

drowsy heart
uncut musk
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gives whisperain flames

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and it sentences her to death after carnevale

noble pewter
# uncut musk

Wait u r borrowing operator but still not clearing? Like u can just borrow a haruka s2 n plop down defenders block the lanes then afk n win Bnuuy

indigo helm
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i did it <3

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lin kind of carried but

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i'm glad amiya kaltsit true dmg combo was insanely good

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thanks for the person who sent the firerworks layout

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was a lifesaver here LOL

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SLOW REALLY HELPED

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WITH THE SPAM

uncut musk
drowsy heart
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Make use of her Therapist range.
ReedBean

uncut musk
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Pramanix gets granted purple flames during carnevale and dies

fringe solstice
noble pewter
drowsy heart
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I tried with Silence and Whisperain (both E1L50~60) and Pramanix didn't die, dunno.

deft marlin
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You might rather want to have SilverAsh there.

noble pewter
fringe solstice
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ReedBean can't you use exusiai + sa s3 bird for phase 1

uncut musk
fringe solstice
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on pv-ex-8 exu2 + sa bird deleted the hp bar LappDumb

uncut musk
fringe solstice
uncut musk
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I dont have sa e2

fringe solstice
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oh ReedBean

noble pewter
# uncut musk

ok, u use pram2 s2 instead, put her at whisper place, everyone on ranged tile shift to left by 1 tile, this way ur pram is afk s2 do dmg to lapp boss n whole map, ur whisper wont be burn by flame cause our of ranged when flame r blocked by cuora Bnuuy

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n cause ur pram is afk s2 permanently atking flame dancer die faster n wont burn u

fringe solstice
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any masteries on surtr?

noble pewter
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cause in ur vid no one is atking flame dancer when being blocked by cuora cause ur pram is s3 n not available

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see u can do like this Bnuuy all ur healer safe to the left side

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dont need strong healer, just normal healer 3 star is enuf

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then u make fire work burn floor

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n just press skill when u need to to heal more etc

deft marlin
# uncut musk I dont have sa e2

If you are still struggling I recommend quickly do some IS5 to level up Raidian and get some materials to gain some other levels as well.

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Will be around 2-3 hours but it’s definitely worth it.

drowsy heart
noble pewter
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she can tank burn proc wont die one shot

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but need to be healed

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n she has passive survive 1 death

uncut musk
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it was the fire dancer enemy

noble pewter
noble pewter
uncut musk
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medics die [somehow 1 shotted]
everyone dies
boss at half hp
carnevale
cant do anything because everyone's dp cost is high or still recovering

misty lava
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cinema

uncut musk
maiden hound
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you're welcome

uncut musk
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i had to protect pram

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tysm

distant fulcrum
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also had problems with the boss getting rid of your defens before you could do anything?

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cause i sure as hell am trying to prevent the first few mask guys from getting through

indigo helm
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That's how I beat her

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😭

fringe solstice
indigo helm
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U gotta use your skills at the right time to deal with the hordes + damage her when her shield is down.

distant fulcrum
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thats not the problem

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those flame aura making bastards are

elder flume
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if you could dedicate a small squad for right squad for them

umbral kite
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got what

distant fulcrum
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Borrowed W'isadel

umbral kite
distant fulcrum
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got me the stage

umbral kite
distant fulcrum
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PV 10

lunar crane
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just wisadel your problem away

distant fulcrum
umbral kite
distant fulcrum
brittle gale
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PV-S-3 is kicking my ass

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How do you even stop phase 2

distant fulcrum
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(the (non-cannon) reason we dont see her in endfield)

umbral kite
brittle gale
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Too many cars

umbral kite
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stall until the fuse can get back to the fireworks

brittle gale
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Or trucks rather

fringe solstice
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either stall or use true/elemental damage

umbral kite
umbral kite
fringe solstice
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yeah but only for physical and arts

umbral kite
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oh SoraWow

lunar crane
umbral kite
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since when? ExuHyperStare

lunar crane
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since the dr are only for phy and arts LappDumb

fringe solstice
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I think if you look up a big brain clear you can stall with roadblocks

brittle gale
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Is surtr elemental damage

fringe solstice
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they give you 30 of them

fringe solstice
lunar crane
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thats literally what it meant for , or if youre stacked enuff bring klasit and mon3ter

limpid ore
lunar crane
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i just borrowed mon3ter and let her do its things

lunar crane
pearl compass
# brittle gale Too many cars

You make them go across whole map back and forth with retreating and putting new roadblock until Carnaval starts. Watch KyostinV lowend guide how to.

elder flume
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a lot of back n forth

brittle gale
pearl compass
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At worst you can bring Trag and he will cheeze out thorough this battle easily.

brittle gale
tired moon
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Which one is best for this team

fringe solstice
pearl compass
hazy sinew
elder flume
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Pram2 does not slow fuse

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50% slow should be noticeable

hazy sinew
elder flume
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50% slow wouldnt make it a 1s difference

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so my conclusion is just this

fringe solstice
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weird

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I figured since the others are movement speed decrease it would affect it

elder flume
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its because fuse is invuln

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not invincible ig

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Ascalon doesnt affect

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but Harmonie does for some unknown reason

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Pram2 needs to do damage first before slow iirc

tired moon
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he like that for a while

hazy sinew
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it just irks me

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i like full circles or empty

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in between is a sin

umbral kite
tired moon
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it's almost empty

hazy sinew
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grrr

toxic orchid
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after all this time I still can't finish JT 8-3...

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I need strat help...

hazy sinew
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yiiikes

toxic orchid
hidden axle
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Borrow haruka and brqindead it

tired moon
toxic orchid
elder flume
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Why is there no Amiya

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Ig u bookmarked all but Amiya

tired moon
elder flume
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Hoshi2 or Sakiko can prob replace Quartz

toxic orchid
toxic orchid
tired moon
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It's not like anyone farm this stage

elder flume
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pretty sure like 20% of people farm this stage

tired moon
elder flume
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theres a lot of Aketon copers

tired moon
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Aketon is pretty common nowadays i believe

tired moon
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cuz tragodia isn't here but on screen that you took he appears

toxic orchid
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i forgor

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done

tired moon
# elder flume https://youtu.be/9I7KfuWWqJU?si=KbT66UtWMheavl34

or do this with replacing ulpianus for hoshi2

https://youtu.be/0pdHO9SWmqA?si=T7SDQ62lvaNDzQ8j

Had a hunch that it might work, turns out it actually work LMAO. The power of newer ops are so bonker, Saki casually clear 2 lanes + help dps boss at once, Haruka solo healing and Ulpianus become unkillable vs DBS. Saki notes RNG sometimes leave enemies with 1 hp run outside her range, that's why Ulpianus on S1 to catch stragglers.

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elder flume
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Ulpi S1 is like a puller that doesnt attack off skill if you range it right IstinaThink

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maybe its worth to E2 him then even with +600 atk

umbral mountain
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@shrewd inlet Show team here

shrewd inlet
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the only problem i have is not dealing enough damage

umbral mountain
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Hoshi holds lane on top

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And why I say this is because u literally have the same roster like me

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Except lapp2 did nothing except trust farm

shrewd inlet
umbral mountain
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Ur firework placement might be an issue

shrewd inlet
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maybe

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im gonna change it later

umbral mountain
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Waitge
Instead of haruka

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Run pram2

shrewd inlet
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i dont have her

umbral mountain
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Support unit

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Haruka does nothing here

shrewd inlet
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what about wis

umbral mountain
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Wis holds top lane but u can substitute with someone else

shrewd inlet
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i dont have her

umbral mountain
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Yeah ik that's why substitute wis with someone

shrewd inlet
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ah

umbral mountain
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Cuz she deals with trash Cart on top

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Wait

shrewd inlet
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pram2 might work better tho

umbral mountain
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Nvm that's cm mode

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This is normal stage right

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Pv9?

shrewd inlet
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no

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pv ex 8

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cm

umbral mountain
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Oh

shrewd inlet
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normal stages are easy i can just brute force it

umbral mountain
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it's been a while since I did this stage

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@shrewd inlet

shrewd inlet
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nvm

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i got it

umbral mountain
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Actually low-key u don't need pram2

shrewd inlet
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reed alter sandwich works lol

umbral mountain
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Neat

shrewd inlet
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im not using her cuz shes on level 70 e1

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this is why i love reedReedBean

umbral mountain
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Anyways the top right

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U can just use gladia ulpi

shrewd inlet
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i did

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thats what im doing

umbral mountain
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Idk why it works

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But if it works I ain't complaining

shrewd inlet
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ulpia s2 is great for lane holding

umbral mountain
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And this is exactly why I tell people to build gladia sometimes goldless

shrewd inlet
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lol

umbral mountain
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Anyways u will face the boss again

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On the S stages

shrewd inlet
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thanks for helping btw

umbral mountain
shrewd inlet
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oh nah

umbral mountain
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All the previous stage u can brute force like u did

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But so I don't forget I'll redo it again and give small walkthrough

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@shrewd inlet Place it in a way that lapp2 targets whoever is in pram2 spot

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Deploy exu2 only when her damage reduction is down

shrewd inlet
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what stage is that

umbral mountain
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The last S Stage

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Cm mode

shrewd inlet
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ohh

umbral mountain
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Boss will be very top on phase 1

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With Wis u can just do this

shrewd inlet
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it look easier than ex

umbral mountain
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Wis first top right face left
When u have enough dp deploy sash2 and immediately activate Wis s3

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So she targets revenant

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Then gladia into ulpi cuz she does no dmg to ulpi

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Then monster into pram2

umbral mountain
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And big truck

shrewd inlet
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big truck is fine

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trunpet guys is fine

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fire dancer no fine

umbral mountain
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Not too hard dw ulpi mogs them

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Fire dancer on top middle Wis s3 explodes them in one shot after u use sash2 s2 or s3 invis reveal

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These enemies are very annoying cuz of invis but u know sash2 being a stupidly powerful vanguard

shrewd inlet
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does vulpis reveal invis

umbral mountain
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No sadly

shrewd inlet
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sad

umbral mountain
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Fire dancer never goes top right btw

shrewd inlet
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does lappland jump down the stage again

umbral mountain
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Only truck

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Yes

shrewd inlet
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ima just reedic sandwich her

umbral mountain
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Yep RedOmegaLul

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Just be careful

shrewd inlet
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i believe in my e1 lvl70 skill level 3 reed alter

umbral mountain
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Cuz in cm 2 trucks will spawn

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And fire dancer

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And trumpet

shrewd inlet
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trucks are fine

umbral mountain
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Normal mode no truck

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I think

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I forgot

shrewd inlet
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what is the condition in cm tho

umbral mountain
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Basically the invis melee guy become mini snack truck

shrewd inlet
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ah hell nah

umbral mountain
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Borrow Wis

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Mini snack is genuinely not a threat

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Fire dancer bigger threat

shrewd inlet
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yeah

umbral mountain
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Anyways good luck, first stage of S is quite easy

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Have someone hold lane on top and middle u have hoshi2 and someone hold

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Cuz when firework start everyone will suicide rush into firework and fall into pit

maiden hound
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s-1 is luto showcase

brittle mesa
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Is Lumin able to remove Def reduction from corrosion burst?

scarlet fulcrum
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Nope

pearl compass
brittle mesa
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Shit. Well, time to borrow Eyja Alter for 12-20

pearl compass
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I can tank enemies with 0 DEF.

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I still remember mine H12-4, where everyone doesn't have any, lmao.

hidden axle
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Be like those sumo wrestlers who take everything head-on

scarlet fulcrum
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some ops gimmick treated as redeploy too

smoky cosmos
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I just came back from a long break, are there any must-pull operators in the future?

smoky cosmos
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SoraWow when is he/she coming?

eager bramble
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I think around 3 months

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For global

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For Taiwan idk

smoky cosmos
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Ty

pearl compass
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He's dude.

eager bramble
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Summer?

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Oh yeah he's in summer

eager bramble
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But his trap can damage air and shred though def

smoky cosmos
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Are Silverash alter and Paramanix alter time limited? Is it better for me to save 300 pulls to (cope) the next anniv banner? I also dont have Hoshiguma alter. Will she also be available in the 300 pity shop?

eager bramble
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Silverash are limited

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Is

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Para aint

deft marlin
eager bramble
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Tbh kaltist alternative is kinda mid

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She's good for utilities,closure is kinda mid too

smoky cosmos
eager bramble
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So I think you should get 300 for silverash

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For that crisp dp decrease

smoky cosmos
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Will Para alter show up in the Anniv 300 pity or 25$ selector? Tbh I'm an afknight enjoyer

eager bramble
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I have no idea tbh

smoky cosmos
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Ty EyjaPray

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Also I heard that Zima alter is good for afk, how good is she compared to good ol Thorn/mountain/blaze?

foggy grove
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the bar is low af

cinder vector
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Both kalter and closure are decent good at least

eager bramble
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Yah that what I say

eager bramble
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Mid is decent

cinder vector
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Mid is not decent

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Mid is like hool

eager bramble
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For me it is

cinder vector
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Decent is like ray

smoky cosmos
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SoraWow ok imma pull zima then

eager bramble
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I would say hool is

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Useable

eager bramble
deft marlin
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I think Kal is fairly good.
Being able to use some important skills twice in a row and very good AOE true damage is helpful.

Closure is alright.

eager bramble
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She is good

smoky cosmos
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ExuHyperStare last time I was playing hool was 💩

eager bramble
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She still is

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💩

next wigeon
eager bramble
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Let's me write that down in my new rank

deft marlin
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For me good > decent > mid

So decent is like serviceable, and mid is fairly bad.

eager bramble
next wigeon
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If you want to be detailed there's like above average and sub-par

eager bramble
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Would never know

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There alot of rank for a tierlist

next wigeon
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Sub-par is slightly worse than expected and Above Average is self explanatory because its slightly performing better than expected

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Then there's Bad and Garbage

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Bad - has a job but not good at it

Garbage - has no job and doesn't do anything noteworthy

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That's what I think anyway

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People usually default to non-meta = garbage or mid = garbage

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nowadays at least

deft marlin
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Non-meta = garbage is insane

next wigeon
deft marlin
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Yeah and she is overrated

mossy frost
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Someone actually using meaningful, unambiguous descriptors instead of letter grades in a tier list? Truly this is uncharted territory. Absolute madness.

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I'd say to use "Non-Functional" or "Unusable" instead of "Garbage" as the bottom tier, though, just to emphasize that the category comprises complete and total irrelevance.

next wigeon
deft marlin
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Unusable is kinda vague as well.

The CN players can actually beat Chapter 16 with 3 Stars for some reason.

eager bramble
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They are cn

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They been doing crazy stuffs

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😭

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They can beat everything with 3 and 4 stars

mossy frost
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That's not vague at all. "Has no job and doesn't do anything noteworthy" is a sound definition for "unusable"

eager bramble
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For who know how

next wigeon
mossy frost
eager bramble
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What

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The devs do that too?

eager bramble
mossy frost
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Yeah, I heard that's exactly how the devs test new maps.

eager bramble
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Ok what

mossy frost
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Don't know if it's still true, that interview was years ago, long before I started playing.

next wigeon
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Dr Silvergun is a famous 4★ Player, ILoveAmiya is a well known 3★ Player and 0SanityLowy is a well established E0Lvl1 Player

eager bramble
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Who is iloveaniya anyway

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I heard about him alot

next wigeon
mossy frost
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Eckogen and KyoStinV do low-rarity clear guides, too. So there's even guide gods clearing with low-stars.

next wigeon
eager bramble
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There a whole pages of strat

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For cn

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Some of their videos are kinda similar

mossy frost
eager bramble
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Him

mossy frost
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Same reason wheels are always round.

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Or why everything turns into a crab.

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Anyway, I'm still trying to find it, but at some point, a fan asked HG how they playtest new maps, and the answer was that they use low-star units.

next wigeon
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For a healthy game

mossy frost
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"has to" in what sense? They could say "whale or GTFO" if they wanted to, and I'm glad they don't.

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I'm gonna keep looking, in any case. It's gonna bother me all day if I can't find it.

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Hrrrm. Wiki says it was on the global website, and provides a link, but the page doesn't load for me. https://www.arknights.global/news/110

Welcome to the official website of Arknights. Arknights is a strategic RPG mobile game with a fantasy theme.

mossy frost
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The scroll bar.

noble pewter
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the what now PtiloThonk ?

mossy frost
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Exactly.

rustic eagle
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@chrome igloo what are you struggling with

chrome igloo
rustic eagle
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Can’t you cycle wisadel S3

chrome igloo
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I took reference from this video
https://youtu.be/ATYq_dQWzDA?si=RWL1SkAlohsf2OgJ

※編成に昇進2のオペレーターがいないと動画と同じ練度のウィシャデルが借りれませんのでご注意ください
ウィシャデルを使い終わった方は戦友の削除をお願いします。
たくさんのドクターのためにご協力をお願いします。

戦友があふれた時は予告なく削...

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rustic eagle
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And use her summons to tank Lapp

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Seems like that’s what they’re doing there as well

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What are you struggling to replicate in the vid

celest bluff
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So in today environment

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Support class is heavy hiters

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Vanguard bring utility to the team

mossy frost
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if Amiya breakdancing at some point isn't already canon, it needs to be

long lotus
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hi how do people usually deal with talulah's meteor thing in JT8-3?

signal vector
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Nightingale

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Logos

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Haruka

hidden axle
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The humble gravel:

signal vector
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Or just use 6 ops to deal with her during the first phase, then another 6 or 7 for the 2nd phase DocSmile

surreal turret
signal vector
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Ulpi gladiia leizi clear DocSmile

lethal ferry
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Heavyrain (camouflage works)

long lotus
lethal ferry
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S3

rich pine
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lowk how do i do PV-10

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being underleveled

noble pewter
next wigeon
full terrace
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Lemme see if I have an old video for PV-10

next wigeon
full terrace
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Hey Astrel

celest bluff
lethal ferry
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Lunacubs great there, but she doesn’t help your other operators live, heavyrain s2 lasts long enough (at m3) to dodge all but one of the fireballs. I wouldn’t actually recommend using heavyrain for Talulah, but it is funny

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You should really put your operators behind bassline or czerny and have them tank everything

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As the fireballs pass through camouflaged operators

wicked minnow
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@elder flume why is it inconsistent SkadiDaijoubu

elder flume
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its not

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its consistent

wicked minnow
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ill send a vid

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it is i swear

elder flume
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first deploy is never hit because mod wants cat to be within 8 squares

wicked minnow
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ok

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then what about every other rdp?

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first was not reduced

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second was

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third wasnt

elder flume
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the next rdp counts previous as the mod req done

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since first deploy was within 8 squares

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meaning second deploy can be placed anywhere to get buff

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but because second deploy wasnt within 8 tiles then third deploy no buff

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cat rdp is always for the next

wicked minnow
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yeah but saying that it works for cat is also somewhat misleading

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when it works for every deployment normally

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uhhh

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so it somewhat works

elder flume
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as long as every deploy is within SA 8 tiles

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except first

wicked minnow
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oh yeah i was just testing it wrong then undeploying to quickly so it didnt work each time

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waiting a second for it makes only the first deployment have an issue

elder flume
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pretty sure it works the same for every summon

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you just cant see it on ops like Raidian because they have 2 summons in 1 and the rdp is alr going on default speed before you placed it

wicked minnow
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yeee

rustic eagle
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oh this is funny

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the robots are stuck operating the pillar

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and next wave wont start because they didnt leave yet

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because of pram ice block

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oh now one of the bottom left guys destroyed some of the tiles there, so new tiles ended up covering where the robot is now

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so it (slowly) dies

pearl compass
glass monolith
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I know how to counter wisadel brainrot. Civilians, who drain LP on death, red healthbar

pearl compass
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Don't give them ideas.

safe basalt
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Is Cutter decent at all?

astral cosmos
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she's decent sure

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on the high end of 4*

left egret
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As yurodstvo has only 800 def exu2 and wisadel should be able to deal with her? Or is it already better to bring someone with high dph like lemuen or true/elemental dps? Still don't understand the whole math of the damage

glass monolith
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H stage yurodstvo is 130k hp 1040 def FrankaWheeze

left egret
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Can't even wang nuke it probably as there is 70 res on 16-16 and I need to multiply it by 1.2 or even 1.3 for hell stage if I got it right. He has res ignore but not that good methinks

lethal ferry
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Yurodstvo isn’t that tanky

glass monolith
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Bro encountered counter of damage per screenshot / true damage - Enemy actually having hp

lethal ferry
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16-16 yurodstvo dies to tequila, no way wang can’t

left egret
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Oh, so if not skill issue she might be easy to deal with, easier than prts

lethal ferry
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As long as she isn’t invisible or debuffing your attack speed she can’t really survive much

lunar crane
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its not yoro you should be worried , those walking mech are the problem

lethal ferry
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The mechs are the real boss

lunar crane
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dude be throwing rocket and out of sudden my ops gone RedOmegaLul

lethal ferry
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Just use rose salt

lunar crane
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ehh dont hv her , i just let surtr deal with most of the mech in cp16

buoyant imp
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i love these stages where you can switch one block around and it takes the enemies 51 years to maneuver back around to the other side

umbral kite
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10* operator roadblock proving its power once again RosHype

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(also how could you let pram die MlynarDisgusted)

arctic adder
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Do you guys know how to increase alliance stack on stronghold? Im struggling

arctic adder
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How

pearl compass
somber falcon
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by reading

pearl compass
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Here's example of May.

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When bought, +2 to Precision and Victoria every time.

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Papyrus gives +4 to Sargon when she activates the skill. Once per Round.

arctic adder
pearl compass
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Philae also +4 to Sargon and also when activates the skills, but no restrictions of max.

arctic adder
pearl compass
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You get the idea.

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Open Ops list

arctic adder
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Thanks dude

pearl compass
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And read EVERY SINGLE ONE.

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And build the team to try get max value from getting stacks.

signal lichen
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its actually a pretty complicated game mode with TONS of rng so don't feel bad if you don't understand it right away

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theres a lot of different types of combinations for it

daring cloak
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me when I want to test sakiko with victoria hammers but out of 10 games I didn't get her once

signal lichen
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me when my reading comprehension isnt

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and I fail to raise the yan stacks with wanping

plucky flint
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how I wish there's a simplified list of ops' attribute list in SP than reading them 1 by 1 ingame FiaDed

noble pewter
arctic adder
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Nah im fine,i already understand thx to @pearl compass

tall sierra
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Those little shit, dancing fire man get perma frozen outside of pramalt range.....

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Had to bring 1 more ops to kill em fast

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Rather than waiting for the ice to kill em so slow

rich pine
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lowk idk what to do here

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underleveled ahh team

rustic eagle
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She isn’t lure immune right

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I think trag cat just screws her up no

trail wren
rustic eagle
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Also underleveled not even tbh

pearl compass
rustic eagle
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Trust farming prob SkadiDaijoubu

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If they have nothing better to fill the squad slots with as well

woven plinth
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BP and Lapp facing up should do some damage to the boss, Tragodia can mop up whatever is left

pearl compass
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Their damage is too damn low.

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They will be glad to defend mid and bottom lanes instead.

fierce narwhal
fierce narwhal
limpid ore
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lumen performs worse than sussurro even at max investment

lethal ferry
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I hate lappland so much

pearl compass
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She's cute tho

mighty mantle
limpid ore
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🍍 🍕

lethal ferry
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I might like her more if her damageable window was easier to manipulate, as it stands the only way to make it consistent is to spend 10 minutes slowly knocking her down with valarqvin

rustic eagle
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I used the gimmick until like cm EX8

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After that I used M3SkadiDaijoubu

lethal ferry
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The very next run

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I guess complaining helps

deft marlin
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Wait you can just true damage through her as well.

Lemme try with Amiya Caster

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Always thought she is like invincible without winning the Carnival.

rustic eagle
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Just immense DR

lethal ferry
fierce narwhal
deft marlin
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So it’s like the trucks alright.

lethal ferry
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Except unlike the trucks, she doesn't die to two necrosis bursts

deft marlin
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I first just cleared it by getting a Lappland Alter, buffing it with Skalter and Warfarin.

And then release when the Carnival ends.

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But I actually want to try with 5 Stars.

rustic eagle
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Hand over your lappland alter SkadiDaijoubu

deft marlin
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It’s not even mine I lend

rustic eagle
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Hand over your skalter then SkadiDaijoubu

deft marlin
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Wdym ppl in this server thinks she is trash from what I seen.

rustic eagle
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I will take anything

lethal ferry
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Bards are great, it’s just that most 6*s don’t need them

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I only managed to burst down lappland because uika was buffing tequila, snowhunter and umiri

deft marlin
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I actually have an E2 snowhunter

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I know she is not like the greatest but she is my first E6 5 Star so I decided to do it anyway.

lethal ferry
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She’s one of the best 5*s for physical damage

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7k every 10 seconds isn’t nothing

deft marlin
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Wait it’s 10sec? Holy the masteries are insane

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Mine is 14s ._.

lethal ferry
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Might be the most impactful m3 on a 5*

rustic eagle
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What abt…. coldshotDocSmile

deft marlin
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The only 5 Star mastery I have is Surfer.
But now she kinda kills things too fast I actually lose DP.

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I have Amiya mastery too because she is her you know

maiden hound
lethal ferry
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Coldshot is actually really good, her s2 is a sustained burst skill, deals significant damage every 2.4 seconds which is enough to overcome most units defence

rustic eagle
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Time to buy her skin SpecterPray

lethal ferry
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The increased reload time increase her dps

maiden hound
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you'd buy her skin regardless

lethal ferry
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Read her talent properly

rustic eagle
lethal ferry
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It increases her damage so much that her module decreases her dps until mod3

rustic eagle
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Time to wait for new mod

lethal ferry
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She really should of had mod y

woven plinth
lethal ferry
deft marlin
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I actually like the box shifting. It’s like a puzzle very interesting

woven plinth
lethal ferry
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That’s why I haven’t done it yet

deft marlin
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Oh that yeah I am not there yet.

trail wren
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s-5 is easier than s-3 imo Wgoof

rustic eagle
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Whats S3

maiden hound
rustic eagle
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I don’t remember it being that bad

woven plinth
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Unless you get your tanks 2shotted by Lappy...

deft marlin
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S3 is with the box shifting I think

trail wren
rustic eagle
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The one with the fire guys walking around?

deft marlin
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I always use tacticians to tank big range hits. My favorite class all-around.

rustic eagle
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I use E0lvl 1 csSkadiDaijoubu

trail wren
rustic eagle
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Oh yea this one

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Idk forgot what I did

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Pram pretty good here tho fs

deft marlin
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As part of the CN community I can say whenever there is these type of roadblock maps, there are going to be crazy clears.

lethal ferry
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Just greyy alter for this one

trail wren
trail wren
woven plinth
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Ascalon is great on that map

rustic eagle
lethal ferry
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I’d imagine mantra would be incredible here, with all the clumped up invisible enemies

rustic eagle
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Oh elemental damage as well maybe

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Idk I never used her cuz at E1LappDumb

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Is she even worth raising if I don’t have specific sinergy for her

lethal ferry
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She’s better than logos in 90% of situations

somber falcon
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why do you need an op to have synergy to decide raising them or not FartoothWeird
and even then, the bare minimum for a "synergy" with mantra is to have a skill

deft marlin
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For example Blaze Alter kinda needs Yu

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Unless you are doing some perma stun strat in CC

lethal ferry
deft marlin
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Ye that might also be why I kinda hate her in Stronghold. But also because she burst once and next enemies arrive.

somber falcon
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her s2 works fine on her own ChenShrug

drowsy heart
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How fast does Bobbing even apply Burn?

craggy parcel
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How good is Viviana synergy with Yu?

deft marlin
craggy parcel
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Ahh

pearl compass
deft marlin
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Viviana can make burst most the enemy in two or three hits.

craggy parcel
deft marlin
somber falcon
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viviana applies burn by herself just fine

maiden hound
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vivi can supply enough burn yeah

lethal ferry
pearl compass
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Or Vivi.

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With Mod.

craggy parcel
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True im so dumb LappDumb

pearl compass
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If she can procc it fine ofc.

craggy parcel
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Noted

pearl compass
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Ideally you just Yu S2 and guy's cooked hard.

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No helpers needed.

craggy parcel
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RosThink true

deft marlin
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I wish I get Yu next banner but I don’t think I have 300 nor do I have that luck.

craggy parcel
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Believe in off rate DocSmile

lethal ferry
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Though with bobbing he needs to be e2 m6 p5 mod3 max trust and at least level 77 to get those burn speeds

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The max trust is the important part as it means that a borrowed bobbing won’t be able to reach the same rate of burn infliction as an owned one

drowsy heart
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Wouldn't the support just need to have 200% Trust?

lethal ferry
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Support units have half trust

drowsy heart
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I thought the max stat buff was at 100% Trust though.

lethal ferry
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… I might be stupid

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I always thought it was at 200% trust but it seems I was wrong

craggy heron
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200 is for borrowing

scarlet fulcrum
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It displayed 101% trust, the actual trust is 200%

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Only apply for borrow, so the displayed% is half of actual trust

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Oh they fixed the 101% bs 🍿

elder flume
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Ye

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No more quarter trust for E0 too iirc

scarlet fulcrum
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Oh yea, related to restrict lift ig

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No more half trust too (welp quarter in this case), u get same trust from borrow

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So they lift em all 🏋️‍♂️

left night
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I've just realized
Why the best source of true damage are all from medics

elder flume
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is it

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Vina still has highest true no

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or ig Logos is

left night
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Oh I forgot about her

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Does Logos has true damage? I only remember he has elemental proc

elder flume
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S1

left night
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Oh that does count as true damage
(Not the boss killing kind, but still)

pearl compass
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lmao

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BlazeAlter reborn doesn't activated upon Carnival.

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And she gets event effect instead.

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And dies upon its end.

lunar crane
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we forgot nearlter?

left night
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Oh she as well
Don't know about the exact number comparison tho

craggy parcel
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Like for general content do we even need 'true damage'?

left night
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It can bypass some annoying event mechanic

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(Like the current event)

craggy parcel
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Ahh understandable

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Does people in cn use kalter for her true damage on s2 or her s3 mainly?

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Curious on how good her dps is

pearl compass
left night
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I don't know much tbh
But s2 seems to be better for general usage, while s3 is more niche

craggy parcel
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Ahh

left night
craggy parcel
stray forum
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mon3tr deals more damage

craggy parcel
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💀

stray forum
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not like, a lot more, but still more

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they'll prob have different use cases

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kal's near invulnerability is nice

pearl compass
craggy parcel
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So she is still good operator to have

stray forum
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also i still dont know what the hps is

craggy parcel
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No reason to not pull i mean

stray forum
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looks high though

drowsy heart
elder flume
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just give her Laterano +9999% ammo

craggy parcel
left night
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Ngl she would go nut in stronghold
...But you will need a atsp buff lol

fossil sphinx
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nah we are all ready for the new welfare to go nuts

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the new mystic caster boutta give 1 agile per fund spent trust

left night
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I've seen people compared kalter s2 to wisadel s3
The thing is, wisadel s3 can cover a fking continent, doesn't waste ammo on allies, and has better dmg (assuming not against bloated def)

stray forum
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its not comparable to wisadel s3, i dont get that comparison

craggy parcel
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Uhh i forgot she can also waste ammo huh

stray forum
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wisadel does more than twice as much damage in a much larger radius

craggy parcel
fossil sphinx
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they are…both ammo skills
and that’s about it tbh

pearl compass
fossil sphinx
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Kalter is 50k true which is okay ish
but the problem is wang does more damage even against 100 res

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so you need to also have damage reduction or dodge for it to matter

craggy parcel
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I didnt play cn so wang really is that broken huh

stray forum
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kalter is good but i genuinely dont see a reason to pull her besides just being limited and another true dmg source

craggy parcel
stray forum
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unfortunately

fossil sphinx
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her s3 has dreams
might be a goated skill

craggy parcel
#

How about closure then?

fossil sphinx
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closure very nice

craggy parcel
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Hmm

fossil sphinx
#

competing for top vg rn

stray forum
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shes good too but idt shes better than sa2/ines

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imo

fossil sphinx
#

I think there’s a good argument for all 3

umbral kite
#

she seems to be more about damage than dp

stray forum
#

yeah thats fair

fossil sphinx
#

they all have ups and downs

umbral kite
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imo

drowsy heart
craggy parcel
#

True

fossil sphinx
#

which is nice and healthy

#

and then the evil and intimidating chilcuck

stray forum
drowsy heart
#

I feel like Closure could have been more creative (also man what is that Rhodes Island buff) but I like the Reinforcement mechanic at least.

umbral kite
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either way im probably pulling if i have 200 to spark skalter

craggy parcel
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Im cool with either since i plan to use my pulls on wang

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Prob go 100 then dip

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Ah next summer limited can we spark hoshi2?

drowsy heart
#

Next Carnival yeah.

craggy parcel
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Sweett

stray forum
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on whatever the limited after kalter is

craggy parcel
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Yea will hold my pulls and decide later

drowsy heart
#

Already at three hundred so I got time to save which is nice.

rigid prairie
#

Doing Ptio's First Module Mission. Any advice on who to put (Silveralt cheese is the route I'm going)

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(It is silveralt cheese & ptio's mission meaning no defenders nor medics besides Ptio)

drowsy heart
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(Just in case you don't know yet, for the other mission you can run Heart of Surging Flame stages since they cost 0 Sanity.)

somber falcon
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just blast it with modern ops, what's even the difficulty there PodencoSip

rigid prairie
#

And the 2 screenshots are

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All the ops I have leveled

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My modern operator is the main guy here (silveralt)

somber falcon
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you've never did the stage normally? Bnuuy

rigid prairie
#

Before I even did the stage

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And I'm up for a challenge

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I just need to know if some adjustments are in order

somber falcon
#

how about you try it first then
there's nothing to adjust if there's no strategy in the first place

craggy parcel
glacial hound
lethal ferry
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<@&586570970345635868>

wraith saffron
#

this is where ya go for strat advice yeah?

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looking for aPV-10 solution cause this ain't working

pearl compass
#

Yep

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Show the squad

wraith saffron
pearl compass
#

Proviso

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On battle

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What

#

She's base slave

wraith saffron
#

Yes she is useful for stripping invis

pearl compass
#

??????

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No

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She doesn't cook shit

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Same for Jackie

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Vigna, Reed

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Btw why Reed E2-80?

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Lutonada?!!!!

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WTF are you smoking bruh

wraith saffron
#

Reed i had one of those level 80 things

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Lutonada was just my best pull at the time

pearl compass
#

Dude, I'm gonna remove half of your squad now.

Remove Lutonada, Vigna, Reed, Proviso, Jackie.

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Like I'm not kidding

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They don't belong here

stray forum
#

can also replace whisperain with a 4star

pearl compass
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One medic for whole fight btw

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While Lappy does AOE.

stray forum
#

well for pv-10 even ansel + hibiscus work but yeah probably need more than one anyway

pearl compass
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All the time.

wraith saffron
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so who di i replace with what

pearl compass
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Ansel, Spot, first things comes to mind.

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A proper Vanguard like Fang+Myrtle.

wraith saffron
#

i have maxed gavial

pearl compass
#

Like you leveled at least 4 shitty ops.

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Should've asked what to level in help.

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Because a lots of mats just gone from you to shit.

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So, Ansel.

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I hope he's E1-55.

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And not E0-1.

wraith saffron
#

he is

somber falcon
#

reed is fine
her only major roadblock is the investment price, but it's moot here anyways since she's alr raised

wraith saffron
#

so reed is ok?

lethal ferry
#

On the lower end of 5*s

pearl compass
#

If you don't have proper Vanguard, looks like we gonna use her.

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She's still very subpar.

wraith saffron
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myrle is elite 1 60

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i just have base fang