strategy

[drowsy heart]

You know what I forgot... the Storisbits do splash damage. Snegurochka in that tile gets hit apparently.

[rustic eagle]

It’s ok with sash2 pram I can delete it before it hits I think

If both S3s are on the golem

[distant umbra]

So i'm building coldknights and i'm trying to decide which gnosis module to get. On the one hand the attack from his second mod is nice cause most of my team is kerjag, but on the other hand his first module will have 10% more fragile effect to frozen enemies and changes are most of the time an enemy in a choke point is gonna be frozen cause i'm playing coldknights which would yall get

[drowsy heart]

So in this run I do take care of the first Archers with the help of SilverAsh's S3 (since with my setup I don't kill the golems until the end), but without the Eye she still manages the second 'half' (and first half I know she manages solo since that's about when the first golem starts attacking).

[weak gazelle]

kjeragknights?
honestly, i would get all his mod but if only afford one uhmmm fragile one

[umbral kite]

i'd say 2nd mod, cause theres really no non-kjerag ops that inflict cold

[distant umbra]

Ok, thanks. It's not only kjerag but 70%

[umbral kite]

maybe when tlk becomes playable..

[umbral kite]

oh fr?

[drowsy heart]

Frostleaf.

[umbral kite]

oh so thats what she does

[drowsy heart]

Only with Module, and a really low chance pfft.

[distant umbra]

frostleaf, santalla, lee (i count frozen)

[umbral kite]

lee does cold/freeze??

[drowsy heart]

Well, I guess actually 25% per attack at Lv. 3 isn't too bad, in a vacuum. Just that the rest...

[umbral kite]

that blocks freeze

ans it doesnt inflict it back

[distant umbra]

shit

EN cant r*ad

[umbral kite]

sash2 already does this for every op(and by every op i mean kjerag ops because, again, theres really only kjerag ops when it comes to cold )

[weak gazelle]

the bear defender, who's her name again
well yeah ops capable to inflict frozen is rare

[drowsy heart]

Aurora.

[distant umbra]

aurora

[bright juniper]

snowshine

[umbral kite]

aurora is kjerag

[weak gazelle]

she isnt?
they said coldknight anyway so not restricly kjerag

[umbral kite]

she is

she was literally born and raised in kjerag

[weak gazelle]

ohh right, snow hunter exists so can try this aurora + her

[prisma ledge]

Wtf Steward

[drowsy heart]

Former resident, yep.

[umbral kite]

he was born in kjerag

[prisma ledge]

I may have forgotten...

[umbral kite]

theres a name for why he's kjerag i forgor

i think its on the wiki hold on

[weak gazelle]

oh so i am right she kjerag

[umbral kite]

found it

[umbral kite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/814537437170499584/1484171266461012109/VID_20260319134332-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[weak gazelle]

[left night]

Btw in os-s-5 why is the art guard explosion radius so large.
What is even the exact explosion range

[drowsy heart]

1.65

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Icefield_Arts_Guard

[left night]

Why does it feels like it has an explosion range of 2

[hasty minnow]

because it basically is

[left night]

Like even with a defender on topmost tile, the explosion still hit the ranged tiles that is 2 row below it

(Is there some tool that visualize the explosion range?)

[full stump]

low rarity os 10 sucks, spent 3 hours and haven't gotten through, always stupid mistakes

😭

[drowsy heart]

If I remember correctly operators are essentially circles on their tiles (and when enemies are blocked they're blocked on that circle) and stuff like explosion ranges just checks for any overlaps. Two rows though shouldn't be occurring unless they moved through the blocker and are on the other side.

Circles around F and H being example Operators, and E being an enemy blocked by F.

[ashen pewter]

What is the best strat to use with SA Alter? I feel like im usingim wrong.

[drowsy heart]

More of a #help question but generally either S2 for DP reduction and damage/freeze stuff or S3 for really quick deployments with DP switch (can do it with a Robot for example) and also decent Fragile.

[hasty minnow]

s3 is easier to use then s2 imo.

[ashen pewter]

Who is best to use him with?

Like someone who maximize his stuffs?

[drowsy heart]

Only if you want to do silly S2 stuff like with Ulpianus, but otherwise it doesn't really matter.

[merry talon]

Do enemies go deeper onto the operator’s tile depending on facing? Seems a bit inconsistent when i have a ranged op with just the blocker’s tile within range.

[drowsy heart]

When being blocked? Sort of. First enemy is at the edge of the tile (where the operator's circle meets the tile), then it alternates anti-clockwise I think along the operator's circle. So if an operator is blocking enemies from above the first will be at 12 o'clock, the second will be at ~11 and the third at ~1 of their circle.

[elder flume]

Operators have a block search cycle

Depending on when the check happens the enemy can be blocked faster or slower

Slower block would allow them to move closer onto operator tile

That and everything is a circle

Including the attack range you see

Which spans slightly more than what it is

[left night]

Oh it make sense now. Thanks

Also didn't really think about how colission detection would work in ak

[drowsy heart]

-# I only know about it from random Dr. Silvergun videos.

[merry talon]

Lol, thats a crazy about of nuance.
With a bit of order within that madness or else something with “random” targeting like Lemuen s3 would not work on autodeploy

[elder flume]

But Lemuen isnt random

[drowsy heart]

Auto-deploy also saves the RNG seed used in the run, though it is liable to fail due to frame rate stuff (or if it is too old and there was an update to something).

But yeah, Lemuen (on S3) just prioritizes enemies with the lowest DEF as a Deadeye Sniper.

[distant umbra]

saa s2 for coldknights right?

[narrow orchid]

Are there any borrowables that kill the fast spawning bats on OS-S-3 challenge other than ExuAlt?

[drowsy heart]

There aren't any bats on that stage, do you mean the Snowbrats?

[weak gazelle]

os-s-3... which one is that?

[drowsy heart]

Lots of mushrooms.

[honest jacinth]

I thought it was impossible and I looked it up only to realize the freaking mushrooms block for me too

it's actually really easy

I can never tell if they made the hardest stage in existence or if it's just a small lack of understanding

[weak gazelle]

ohh that one
its pretty simple map

from 2 safe tile to 4 safe tile (if kill 1 mushroom in bottom right)
and pretty much do the usual and win

[drowsy heart]

Pramanix can do the CM with just Ethan, mm.

[weak gazelle]

mine was eblana ange strat

[full stump]

Finally did it

😭 😭 😭

[azure roost]

scuffest laterano run @weak gazelle

[latent halo]

ok leite

wheres my room

[azure roost]

[latent halo]

where invite

[azure roost]

wtf eating rn

later

[astral cosmos]

typically one of the emotes we don't allow

[latent halo]

oh

[full terrace]

OS ends in 3 days huh

I need to force myself to finish this

[full stump]

gl

[glass monolith]

I have only S-5 left to rarity abuse

[glass monolith]

WHAT THE FUCK

Why i am being "rushed" on all directions so fast

[umbral kite]

welcome to os-s-5

enjoy your stay

[glass monolith]

Weedy S2 save me from this bullshit!

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN DP DOUBLED

[pearl compass]

Guard and Defender only

Don't worry

Weedy still safe

[glass monolith]

Well she isn't Fuck this stage so hard

[bright juniper]

well it honestly boils down to left lane holder, mid lane holder, golem killer, archer killer

[glass monolith]

I don't want to level up e2 1 Cantabile

[bright juniper]

not mutually exclusive roles either if you decide to use wis for mid and golem

[bright juniper]

well do you have any other agents or gladiia or sash2

[glass monolith]

oh i guess gladiia exist

[bright juniper]

cause sash2 s3 easily kills those archers

[glass monolith]

I already using Ines on bird lane so i refuse to damage by ego further

Done. Glory to Fia's grandpa

I wonder if Zuo works on middle lane in CM, i run into funny issue on not CM than he kills faster than he gains shield

[azure roost]

he prob gonna get frozen

[elder flume]

Lumen surely

[glass monolith]

Would him freezing be any issue at all? He nukes freeze dudes anyway

[elder flume]

Yes

Its why Zuo Le Gravel tech exists

Theres 2 periods where mid is spammed

[glass monolith]

No need to tell me i guess, played entire map on x1 purely to react in time

time to look up some boring Wisadel 2op on arkrec for this map or something

oh right, exu2 exists

[full terrace]

Not rare enough 😂

I ran out of Sanity, but its S-4 and S-5 left

I'll finish the rest tomorrow

[glass monolith]

I would describe S-5 as that one worst case scenario image your brain produce when thinking about possibility to travel dark alley at night

[full terrace]

It will be 100% a breeze, I rarity abuse 😏

Things I never get to do when I was active

[bright juniper]

honestly s-5 is less rarity abuse, more role coverage

[fleet edge]

I just lost half an hour because my phone died mid is6 run and I didn't realise fml

[azure roost]

lol

[elder flume]

oh wow the automod worked

[odd forge]

Resilient is pretty op for long lane map, I forgor that name

Two lane and two block the view in the center between

[lime lantern]

@wicked minnow ur propaganda made me play closure s2 abit again and holy FUCK this is so ass yeah bro highest dp gen in the game with 3 BY 3 RANGE

[misty lava]

[lime lantern]

im doing some insane mental gymanstics to justify this

hmmm yeah ok so put wang in summon range cuz global range

and then kalt2 s3 cuz she can move out 🔥 🔥 🔥 like

[topaz tapir]

Uh what do I do here

[wicked minnow]

i did say that is the main issue with her

i do think she blows sash2 s3 out the water but uhhhh....

mmmmm

maybe sash2 s3 wasnt that good in the first place

[lime lantern]

like

PLEASE do not @ me with this propaganda no more

it just feels TRASH in actual play

[wicked minnow]

naaaaaaaaaa

crazy

[lime lantern]

im putting ONE op

in her summon range

like u can cope 2

and thats pushing it

[wicked minnow]

aint no way

[lime lantern]

casue u have to deal with playing around the map tile

aswell

what if u want to put down 2 ranged ops and the summon range is only within 1 range til

what then

do u just fuck urself

[wicked minnow]

[topaz tapir]

What's the game plan here actually

[lime lantern]

best dp gen in the game guys

lets just ignore the MAP in the TOWER defense game

[lime lantern]

YES

[wicked minnow]

so true

[lime lantern]

ITW ASNT

u use S2

U USE S2!!!

😭

[wicked minnow]

nop

[lime lantern]

U USE S2 IN GENCONTENT!!

[wicked minnow]

cant force me

[lime lantern]

bro like

ya

ofc closure s2 is better

than sash s3

for dp purposes

😭

[wicked minnow]

that's what im saying

smh

[lime lantern]

nobody is debating u o nthat

what

but if u say better than sash2

i have a problem

because s2 exists

[wicked minnow]

i dont think anyone implied she was better than sash

[topaz tapir]

okay uh.

ig people are too busy to check other stuff rn

[wicked minnow]

just that she provides more dp

which was kinda the point

[lime lantern]

with a HUGE asterisk

[wicked minnow]

i mean sure

so you agree

[lime lantern]

no like

[topaz tapir]

Why are you guys talking about this in strategy

[lime lantern]

i genuinely just dont see this character

being used alot

[wicked minnow]

i can see s3 being used. maybe s2 at some point

[lime lantern]

like why do i have to cope a 3x3 range when i can put down sash2 then ines s2

[lime lantern]

s3 yeah sure

not character* i meant s2

[wicked minnow]

ye

fair enough

[topaz tapir]

k uh guess #strategy is the new #arknights then

[lime lantern]

i pulled her

tried s2

got pissed off

forgot about it, then some misinfoer kept spreading propaganda about it

try it again

get pissed off again

[wicked minnow]

we are talking about the new characters released on CN from a discussion we had in #help a bit back

[wicked minnow]

you just kill the bats

[lime lantern]

skill is actually ragebait like fym 3x3

[wicked minnow]

then kill the 2 guys in the middle

there's a safe ranged tile

[lime lantern]

arknights will tell you in early stages "RULE NUMBER 1 DO NOT PUT OPS NEXT TO EACH OTHER OTHERWISE THEY WILL GET GIGA FUCKED BY MORTARS"

and then now "ok so what u want to do is put down ur ops in this tiny little range"

[rustic eagle]

Do nothing until the bats get up

[rustic eagle]

And pop skill when they do

[wicked minnow]

this is important for CM

[lime lantern]

didnt mlynar solo this stage

or sum shit

[wicked minnow]

raidian as well ye

[rustic eagle]

Bunch of shit does

[lime lantern]

ye just copy that clear

[leaden sierra]

What's the best faction in Protocol for boss nuking? I had a lot of fun with Laterano stuff, just having Lemu shoot 100+ bullets at the boss.

[hidden axle]

#stronghold-hall

[fleet edge]

Alright I did it
I finished farming the stuff I was planning to use her for, in order to raise her, so I have no other reason to use her for now but I did it

Mastering in progress

Raising operators to farm the content you already finished farming in order to raise them is some big brain strats

[hidden axle]

Uou play IS for fun

[topaz tapir]

Why's the circle there on the wrong tiles

[wicked minnow]

on the CM it's the only safe tile available to you

[glass monolith]

which are correct?

[wicked minnow]

other than that you have the few melee tiles bottom right

but they arent particularly useful

[wise pond]

and rewards!

[glass monolith]

Aren't there like bottom right one too but outside maybe bird sniping with Frostleaf it don't do shit

[wicked minnow]

ye

i think at least

[glass monolith]

Also all tiles are "safe" for Lunacub

[wicked minnow]

wtf broken operator?

[weak gazelle]

when i rely too much on mostima eblana again :icant:

[ornate furnace]

Can someone help me fight OS-S-5 CM

Pls pls pls pls

I HAAAAATE HATE HATEEE OS-S-5

[noble pewter]

u must show ur roster

[hidden axle]

Share roster

[ornate furnace]

roster?

[hidden axle]

Your operators

[ornate furnace]

Chicken?

Ah

[hidden axle]

[drowsy heart]

Damn, that's a stacked roster.

[ornate furnace]

... I dont get it

[hidden axle]

Its not exactly stacked, just an old account

[drowsy heart]

You have everyone other than SilverAsh for this for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR8YlEF_DCc

[drowsy heart]

(For this stage it is more than enough though.)

[hidden axle]

You dont call an account stacked by that metric

[drowsy heart]

Fair enough.

[ornate furnace]

Ah reall

I dont get it but yes yes... Chicken

[ornate furnace]

OKIE! THANK U I WILL TRY THIS

[topaz tapir]

Well even deploying ExuAlter slightly early from when they started to fly uh

yeah this doesn't work

[wicked minnow]

i can link you the mlynar solo if you want. there's also an exu2 solo on normal mode

[earnest bobcat]

You have Pram, Mylnar, and Hoshi.

[wicked minnow]

you can also try to snipe the bats one clump at a time. as long as you dont trigger the avalanche you should be good

[earnest bobcat]

It's pretty feasible (and easy when you know the placement) to do a 2-man run of this.

[wicked minnow]

if you have raidian as well she can solo it

[drowsy heart]

Hoshiguma is a very easy solo too.

[earnest bobcat]

I was wondering how you did it given your niche.

[wicked minnow]

ye summons dont give sp to avalanche

it was quite easy

[elder flume]

Irene Chen cant kill golem before 2nd one comes sadge

Ive just been having Chilchuck negate mid lane avalanche

Kina fun

I prob should be testing Irene S3 instead

[drowsy heart]

Oh it counts as environmental for his Talent? Funny.

[elder flume]

Actually cant i just run Mon3tr Lapp

Mon3tr dies if skill runs out on ground but not sure if stun cancels die

[earnest bobcat]

Lappland is probably one of the harder counters to middle lane suicide squad tendencies I think?

The middle lane suicide squad is silencable, right?

[elder flume]

Ye

But theres 2 periods of 5 guard spam

And off skill NG cant sustain

[limpid ore]

just ulpianus gladiia afk for mid and right
ines can solo left side with s1l7

[rustic eagle]

Gummy can handle those golems solo?

[rustic eagle]

Actually

[drowsy heart]

Only with Haruka.

[rustic eagle]

Say Lee was kjerag

Ah okay lol seemed a little too much

[drowsy heart]

Yeah alone she melts.

E1L60 though.

[rustic eagle]

That would be my 4th highest unit

Actually nvm there’s radian

5th

[drowsy heart]

Cuora would probably be better, I just used Gummy as a placeholder.

[rustic eagle]

Doesn’t change much it’s not like either of them would do shit

@plucky flint Im very close to giving up doing it the way I’m trying to

[drowsy heart]

(I heard Shu can solo sustain, but don't quote me.)

[plucky flint]

how far did u manage?

[rustic eagle]

ive tried ela

she actually helps enough to kill the golem but keeping her alive is a gigantic hassle because her def low asf

and she doesnt help mid whatsoever so i need resources mid as well

running sakiko im always stuck not being able to kill the golem

if i buy contrail

do you think with the other things i have i willl be able το

[plucky flint]

if u have the resources to e1 max contrail ig

she's pretty strong in that bats lane

Just need to cycle

but I think me using arene is kinda cheating

[rustic eagle]

[plucky flint]

he has manual skill and a drone talent too

[rustic eagle]

ffff

whaaaat

[drowsy heart]

The bats aren't drones though.

[plucky flint]

is it

[drowsy heart]

Just normal enemies, no special tags.

[plucky flint]

so ig lapp would work

only problem is auto activate

still stronger than arene tho

[drowsy heart]

Lappland probably more important for middle.

[plucky flint]

nah, he will use e0 Jaye

[rustic eagle]

im kinda doubting if sneg would be enough

[plucky flint]

e1 lapp won't do shit in mid tbh

[rustic eagle]

or rather if double sash on the golem

is enough to kill it with pram

how difficult would ot be to math it out

[plucky flint]

sash will just tickle golem

wait og sash?

[rustic eagle]

naaah alter mb

[drowsy heart]

Pretty chunky.

[plucky flint]

sash is for bats

[rustic eagle]

i meant S3 with both thingies shooting at the golem

[plucky flint]

no way

he ain't doing arts

[rustic eagle]

• pram S3

[weak gazelle]

why dont sash mid, ela left, and think about golem?

[rustic eagle]

okay so ig sneg out of the window as well.....

[rustic eagle]

think about golem?

[weak gazelle]

right side?

[drowsy heart]

(Well if you can stall the golems she can be placed on the rightmost tile, with just a tiny bit of damage support for the first archer.)

[rustic eagle]

okay but even with her killing archers i cant kill golem

if concentrating both sash2 s3s isnt enough

bro if only i had mousse i swear she would be enough /j

[weak gazelle]

can i see the roster used?

[plucky flint]

[drowsy heart]

What would Mousse do though...

[rustic eagle]

im kind of trying random things atp

[rustic eagle]

arts damage

[drowsy heart]

It has 80 RES, she isn't doing enough.

[rustic eagle]

ill send what i used for the non cm clear

[plucky flint]

better than sash on golem

[weak gazelle]

mine was solo vivi for golem, doubt it will be useful

[rustic eagle]

she needs to deal just a fraction

while golem is weakened by sash skill as well

[weak gazelle]

just reference from my setup
the old thorns

[rustic eagle]

yeaa nah

I forgot the exact setup but was probably something like this

[plucky flint]

bro got nothing to get from that setup

[rustic eagle]

half the units here are useless tho

[plucky flint]

oh wait

[rustic eagle]

or archer arrows fodder

[plucky flint]

raise red

[rustic eagle]

for what

[plucky flint]

he has good talent for the golem

[weak gazelle]

lol
thats why i am asking first

[plucky flint]

higher min dmg

that's what ur asking for right

[rustic eagle]

do you think shes gonna deal enough tho

yes maybe

youre right

[plucky flint]

I mean, why not

use s1 red

[rustic eagle]

you know what

maybe i should just raise pram

[hazy sinew]

what

who is saying raise projectr ed

murk them

[elder flume]

How many hits will Red takes to down a golem

[plucky flint]

bro I'm just suggesting based on what he wants

[hazy sinew]

degen moduless kinda silly, no?

[plucky flint]

no lmao, he just wants more chip damage

[rustic eagle]

im not using her for this stage anyway if i use sakiko

imma level up pram tbh tho maybe

[hazy sinew]

are we pretending you can tjust wisadel and go

[rustic eagle]

yea i cant

i would have otherwise

[plucky flint]

I don't think wis and go will work here

[weak gazelle]

lappy and sakiko huh

1 must out

[plucky flint]

ur pram is 60 now no?

[rustic eagle]

yes but still mod 2 maybe holdup

[brittle wren]

mod levels are restricted by trust not level

[weak gazelle]

pram s3 and degen s3
try cycling those two
mean spawn camp them

[rustic eagle]

im saying level up her mod

[plucky flint]

who's gonna mid then

[rustic eagle]

i cant run degen if i borrow sakiko for left

[hidden axle]

Do you hqve contrail

[rustic eagle]

nope ill buy if i have to tho

which i may

[brittle wren]

are those all the leveled 6*s you have?

[rustic eagle]

uhhh theres mantra

not e2 tho

[weak gazelle]

forget it

[rustic eagle]

and then i have kal and rosmontis

lvl1

[weak gazelle]

mantra not e2 useless

[plucky flint]

those 2 won't do shit here asw

[rustic eagle]

well kal if leveled up....

would mantra e2 do anything tbh

[weak gazelle]

kal s2 yeah
probably handle your mid lane

[rustic eagle]

oh i meant for golem

[plucky flint]

mon3 will die at 3 arts guard exploding

[weak gazelle]

its fast enough redeploy no?

[plucky flint]

30 secs tho

3x3 arts guard rush u

[drowsy heart]

0 RES.

[plucky flint]

in a short interval

[hidden axle]

I think levi used mon3 and wis for middle amd top right lane

[weak gazelle]

make use pram s3

[plucky flint]

I believe this is wis time and buy contrail for left

[rustic eagle]

maybe i should just e2 mantra and fuck it

surely shes not that bad right

[weak gazelle]

here another bad news
she want enabler

[rustic eagle]

i mean

enabled can be anything right

[hidden axle]

Erm

Lets just say

[rustic eagle]

shouldnt be too bad

i dont need trag levels of it

[hidden axle]

You really want the enabler to be trag

[weak gazelle]

yeah try it then
and borrow a strong mantra

[plucky flint]

can't you do masteries in ur pram

even m1 ig

[rustic eagle]

hmmm

i would be doing the unforgivable thing of doing s3 first

but maybe yea atp

[plucky flint]

Just try m1 first, don't need to go all out

[earnest bobcat]

I tried to run this

Common sources of death - Ines dying from the sniper doing damage to her - Cantabile was chucked in because she has a lower defense stat to intentionally bait the snipers at one point and could kill them.

The Golem.

The Golem.

Actually, I should try Shu S2 here.

[plucky flint]

[earnest bobcat]

You may be thinking, but Nate, why not actually use a DPS instead of messing around with Schwings and unironically Fang and Vulpisfoglia and Surfer being the best at actually doing damage here.

[hidden axle]

Whats this vgknights with a degender and 2 frds

[rustic eagle]

fyril

looking at the stats now

theres no way m1 isnt enough

thank you for bringing me back to sanity

[umbral kite]

yeah im not sure you have enough dps for the isbits

[earnest bobcat]

I'll be back after 20 minutes of driving.

[umbral kite]

(also honorary vanguardknights player )

[elder flume]

Would the bats perch on Nasti tile

[glass monolith]

Option A:
Option B:
Option C: Destroy pillar while they sit on it

[ornate furnace]

Guys what's alternative for blaze guard

pls dont say popukar...

[glass monolith]

What you have and what you trying to do

[ornate furnace]

OS-S-4 CM 😞🙏🏻

[glass monolith]

Abuse jellies protect us from avalance as well to murder everything

[drowsy heart]

Can do it with Hoshiguma S2, some healing and Pramanix.

[rustic eagle]

pram wis solos the stage asw

bro what the fuck

so much stuff they have

[ornate furnace]

i dont get it...

[drowsy heart]

For example, though Haruka is also overkill.

[glass monolith]

Oh wait this is S-4?

[rustic eagle]

oh its this one

nvm mb

[glass monolith]

I was thinking about S-3

[rustic eagle]

i spammed sash2 s2 and yato for it

[ornate furnace]

Oooohhhh

[rustic eagle]

and like a bunch of cheap e0 units just for the freeze

[ornate furnace]

im trying hard to move those mushrooms but ugh they're fatass

[drowsy heart]

You don't need to move them though?

[ornate furnace]

...

Oh...

[drowsy heart]

They can just stay there until the end.

[ornate furnace]

I will surtr them then

[drowsy heart]

They also protect you from the avalanches.

[ornate furnace]

I have pramix alt but... I dont have lmd

that's why i have to borrow and suffer

[ornate furnace]

Really!!!?

that's why i dont deal dmg...

[drowsy heart]

Yes, they work just like the Avalanche barriers except permanent until they start moving.

[ornate furnace]

My brain got fried becuz of s-5

[rustic eagle]

or because of all your units

[drowsy heart]

Anyway, you can just put Pramanix first (one tile to the left of where she is here) and then the rest.

[ornate furnace]

True...

[ornate furnace]

I dont have haruka...

[drowsy heart]

Any healer, Mon3tr should work fine.

[ornate furnace]

Okie!!

[rustic eagle]

if you kill the shrooms you have a safe tile on bottom right as well

[earnest bobcat]

My opinion, take this specific spot with a good defender, and you have massive free reign for the rest of the map.

If you deny enemies from moving into the box on the top left, you can do whatever the hell you want in well... The top left box.

It's fundamentally how my caster knights run cleared it.

Kill the bottom right mushrooms asap with extreme prejudice, get Eblana to lanehold, do stuff in the rest of the map.

[drowsy heart]

Works just fine. Deployment order is Pramanix > Mon3tr > Reconstruction (right before Hoshiguma) > Hoshiguma.

Remember to bring the avalanche barriers for Pramanix and Mon3tr, and to place them whenever the avalanche triggers (should only happen twice after the initial one).

And remember to use Mon3tr S2 when necessary.

[ornate furnace]

I did this and i completed it thank u very much!!

[drowsy heart]

Glad it worked out.

[earnest bobcat]

@umbral kite this is one of the most cursed runs you'll ever see.

Shu with S2 active can stall. So between her, Crownslayer, and Silverash S2 schwings keeping the golems under control, the golems will die. Eventually.

The sad part is that Crownslayer was unironically one of the better units here at killing mooses.

[glass monolith]

Crownslayer re-S3 on avalanche

[earnest bobcat]

For about 50-60%? Not too sure. Sash and Ines can keep the bats under control.

And then at some point, I needed to undeploy Sash to deploy units with Sash Schwings to kill the remaining bats

[earnest bobcat]

Heres an annoying fun fact. Yato doesn't have enough bulk to dodge dying, so I needed to deploy her a space away from anything in the middle to well... Not die.

[elder flume]

Hm almost

Wonder if higher SL on Iana screws up her cycle

[earnest bobcat]

do you have any agents raised other than Chilchuk and Ines?

Then again, I wasn't actually using Cantabile skill.

[earnest bobcat]

What's your krooster like anyways?

[elder flume]

Only Sneg i havent touched

Oh dw im not looking to beat it with my full roster

Just trying to do weird things

Like Iana handling left lane and Chen permastalling golem

[earnest bobcat]

Completely understandable.

[elder flume]

Think SL7 Iana is bad tho

Longer duration

More downtime of no aspd

My Krooster has a lot of options
https://www.krooster.com/u/quiet-cream-kroos-76xs

[rustic eagle]

Damn poor degen sitting there like that

[elder flume]

Necessary for S3 to shift before killing enemies

[earnest bobcat]

My account is so immature relative to yours.

I wonder if Shu S1 can permanently stall.

[elder flume]

Should

Not sure if 2 golems

[left egret]

I like my episode 10 team. But aside from that if to throw all the defenders and mountain away and considering taking ptilopsis and wis/exu2/haruka/mon3 borrow for some stages I guess this team can clear around any main story stage, even the hell one? Also I am having problems with understanding mephisto episode 8 boss. ||As for hiden condition I need to leak him?|| And for killing him Just nuke his phase1 with whatever while not having ops on the field or use burst heating skills to keep my ops alive and then wait for phase2 to lose shield?

[elder flume]

Sure

Shield break is if you want him out faster

[left egret]

His shield is dot or amount of damage thing?

[elder flume]

Damage

[earnest bobcat]

I'm going to go do a more normal run of OS S5 CM that isn't built around intentionally spamming Sash S2s now.

[latent halo]

What's chap 10 ?

Steamknight ?

[left egret]

Cannon

And block count increase mobs

[latent halo]

Ah

Manfred

You have trag shouldn't be a problem

[glass monolith]

That man was not frend

[latent halo]

There's raidian s1 for block 3 bait

[glass monolith]

Tequila on skill 3 block jumpscare

(and bro brought Noir anyway)

[hidden axle]

You had to take ptilo borroe at times?

[left egret]

Yeah, but still trying out the best positioning to semi afk the h10-1. I almost killed him in best run but rng killed my medics before my other ops and well

[latent halo]

Let me guess h10-1 is the one that have 3 route

And middle one spawn boss

[earnest bobcat]

Mon3tr S3 is a bit goofy that chapter, ngl. 🤘

Girl reliably aggros the hell out of that artillery and tanks it.

[left egret]

Ptilo as my op, the borrow I usually use nowadays in the next four. Also four of the ops on screen, the current meta ones was obtained after I did almost all main story on standart difficulty anyways

[latent halo]

But nowdays you have hoshi2 for option

[elfin mango]

• hidden condition is to leak him
• you might struggle with some h stages but with guides/understanding of mechanics you should be fine for most story with that roster + supports
• modern dps can just blow up mephisto’s house

[latent halo]

back in the days we dont have such powerful operator , it just pure torture

[elfin mango]

back in the days it was nightingale s3 and exu s3

[latent halo]

Mudrock , exu s3

Matterhorn + ng

[elfin mango]

mudrock didn’t exist 🥀

[left egret]

Yeah, that one. I kill his phase one in one surtr s3 + sa s3, but phase2 and transition is where things start to be spicy as he can kill my medics and the whole strat is finished

[latent halo]

Hoshi2

Iirc top lane enemy do ton of dmg too

Bottom lane I used weedy s2 to hold

[left egret]

Top lane is really not the problem and the bottom one two, just need to handle the boss, might actually do it without borrow even, just need some more trust points on tragodia and his mod lvl 3

Because top lane is just mountain to stall and tragodia to kill, the bottom lane is two silverashes + pram2 and mid is surtr to kill the boss and defenders to triger cannon on him with help of tragodia cat for some extra damage or to deal with other enemies spawning there

Btw, while running some tests on mephisto episode 8 boss I found out he is not only immune to lure but also is fully immune to tragodia cat damage at all, are there any other enemies like that except one with cc buffs or I was just hallucinating

[glass monolith]

Well that boss can't even move, so good luck luring.

About cat damage is more interesting, but i am not in condition to run in and check rn

[left egret]

Technically he can move if we consider his tps from time to time but not in a common sense, yes

[elder flume]

Think u just didnt see the damage

Only Trag nerf was in Zima2 event

And ive used Trag on Mephisto before pretty sure it did damage and paralysis

[glass monolith]

I know Birdo getting hit for 0 damage when casting DoT but that last moments, not entire cat damage duration

[slate lantern]

Lol in a trouble node in is 6 there is an enemy is face tanking sash and the monthly deployment unit and resenting all health

[left egret]

Oh yeah, I guess I just tried nuking him too hard that his dot made me think that no cat damage, now checked with just tragodia damaging the mephisto and everything worked fine

[river saddle]

How did everyone do the laterano stronghold protocol alliance with lightspeed attack and infinite ammos while i trry that the maximum i get is 80 stacks, whats the strat here??

[glass monolith]

Executor alter thing

Something something shit ton stacks

[glass monolith]

I didn't had Lapp for so long i don't check enemy silence-able status at all

[fringe solstice]

typically it is almost all normal or elite enemies unless hg is like pls don't silence this, it is important to have the event work

[glass monolith]

TW exploding one is not silenceable to my memory

or some other one, i don't keep tap on like 1500 enemy entities

[gaunt nebula]

I’m a bit into episode 5 of the main story and was wondering if this team comp is decent enough. It seems to have been working good but I wanna know before I invest any further lol

[untold locust]

Currently struggling through episode 4 with this team comp. Is anything better possible with the operators I do have, and which ones should I level?

https://www.krooster.com/u/tidy-peach-rainbow-825l

[fringe solstice]

Have you use the e2 5 star voucher? I figure you used it on elysium. I would bench snow hunter, swire and mostima for kroos, cuora and steward (I would consider humus if you need a landholder)

[trail wren]

I don't see how you would struggle with this, is there a specific stage your struggling with

[umbral kite]

silverash2 s1 usage?

[fringe solstice]

I would focus e2 logos. I think your team is fine tbh. hellagur and blaze alter are niche and hard to use before e2. You might need a pure defender for some of the hard hitting enemies.

[earnest bobcat]

A not insubstantial chunk of the time, the solution to a good chunk of your problems is live the early game long enough to get Pramanix S2 up, and watch as Pramanix S2 kills things.

[untold locust]

4-8 and 3-8 challenge

[untold locust]

This deck is very expensive so I need it

[drowsy heart]

For 3-8 at least the Defense tiles are a trap, just let Skullshatterer move around while you burst him down.

Also, use Mon3tr S2.

[earnest bobcat]

I wasn't kidding.

[spark idol]

4-8 wants bait ops.
Like Gravel, summons, Jaye, lv30 Yato.
Don't have to invest, even.

[earnest bobcat]

Mon3tr summon is good bait. 🤘

[untold locust]

I see

[earnest bobcat]

You can also interupt the casters by stunning them or freezing them.

Pramanix's second talent, once you get the resources to E2 her, is a hard counter to their gimmick.

And also a hard counter to high aspd, low individual attack potency can target high ground units in general enemies.

[untold locust]

Is it meta to S2 or S3?

[untold locust]

damn you were right

cleared 4-9 with lvl 70 pram alter

[umbral kite]

s2 makes everyone free

[umbral kite]

s2 and s3 are his actual skills, s1 is essentially nothing compared to them

[earnest bobcat]

Also, to be really blunt about it, some of it is just skill and execution issue.

Some advice here.

For 3-8 CM, you can mitigate a lot, and I mean a lot of Skullshatter's DPS by using Silverash S2 buffed units enough times and freezing the poor sucker.

[untold locust]

True, I downloaded this game about 2 weeks ago

[strong furnace]

Hey where do we put clear videos?

I guess here? I was pretty proud of this one. Managed to do 4 op with men only. If anyone can think of a way to do 3, let me know. This was the lowest I could come up with.

https://youtu.be/rDIt5Ywftnc?si=8FHeddIVCZBx9ose

[narrow orchid]

Woooo got S5 challenge mode done finally. Definitely didn't take me three days of trying. Def not. Tyty for folks in this chat that made it possible

[delicate rampart]

Anyone help me beat this map on normal and challange

8th one

[vital vessel]

share roster, i don't wanna vc but i'll help here

[delicate rampart]

This is my team i dont have resoruces to get anyome to anywhere good right now

[vital vessel]

omg bruh

[delicate rampart]

Im 1 month player that's all i have lvled up

[vital vessel]

you tried jesster left side bats?

[delicate rampart]

What does that mean?

[vital vessel]

jessica alter

oh wait fuck ex-8

i thought os-s5

[delicate rampart]

Im missing only 8 on both modes

[vital vessel]

wait a min, i forgot what that stage is about

[delicate rampart]

With the boss and prama walking around

[vital vessel]

is ptilopsis your only healer

[drowsy heart]

https://youtu.be/5gEVoQ2-no8
Can borrow an E2 Pramanix and see if your SilverAsh and Wis'adel are strong enough.

[delicate rampart]

Didnt help

I tried so many bs noting works i cant complete this event

I give up

I cant beat the next 5 maps from the other part too i was able to only 2

[vital vessel]

oh well

there's rerun later next year

[umbral kite]

e1 pram could probably do it if ptilos helping her

[drowsy heart]

OS-S-3 is really easy. CM almost the same thing just put her one row up and add a staller (Ethan for example can do it).

[umbral kite]

s-1 is also piss easy

[vital vessel]

did you get furnitures (not furniture parts) and astgenne potentials in shop? @delicate rampart

get that at least

[delicate rampart]

Yes i got all the stuff from the shop

That was easy just farm map 8 story mode over and over

I beat the last one but challange mode is impossible i found a way but the same stuff doesnt work on 8 challenge mode

I just need 8 challenge mode now got it on normal

After hours and hours of trying

[drowsy heart]

Did you try this?

[delicate rampart]

Doesnt work

[fringe solstice]

wisadel modless I don't think it will work

[drowsy heart]

Unfortunate.

Honestly though it shouldn't be that hard to solve normally, just don't let anything into the avalanche zones.

Birds are only an issue if they get shifted.

[fringe solstice]

I think pram e1 with sa2 and ulpi on left side can work then borrow + wisadel for right side

[green anvil]

Is there an explanation about why Patriot sometimes revives or just never does whenever he's hit by the silverash alter + Ulpianus cheese

[tawny reef]

is there any way to beat OS-EX-8 CM that DOESN'T involve more than one super duper OP meta unit? Even the "low end" guides have at least 2 meta units I don't have so I can't copy them 💀

like, I can't get both Wis/ExAlter and Haruka man why are you making this a guide video 🥲

[fringe solstice]

Ulpianus s2, ideally you want to have ulpianus deployed last to take the ice beam during phase 2 so use specter in the beginning instead and replace with ulpi. Exu2 can be whatever as long as they can hit air. You can redeploy exu2 to help with boss at end

[violet sable]

many people have one and can borrow the other, no point complaining like this when you're the one looking for help

[fringe solstice]

I'm not confident because ulpianus is modless

might need to switch pram2 with haruka and use pram2 on the right side

[violet sable]

those single-core guides are usually quite complicated https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ih1SB5Ep9/

[tawny reef]

?????????? I was just saying a "low rarity" guide has no point if it needs more than one maxed out 6star
I mean yeah sure what's next 3 6stars? 4? "Most people have some of them" is a terrible argument
I'm aware they're complicated to make but it's kind of a waste when it doesn't accomplish its point of "you can clear this by borrowing this unit and doing this this this"

[fringe solstice]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16T1RBKEfG/ I found this while searching on bilibili for different clears. It's blockers + wisadel

[tawny reef]

huh, neat

[violet sable]

the introduction says "there's a lot of randomness" btw

[tawny reef]

yeah that's understandable when you're only using 1 6star and I have no problem with it lol

[scarlet fulcrum]

There's also exialt single carry, but welp above use less stars

[neon flame]

Ines gave me hope at OS-S-5 despite not having Ines.

[noble pewter]

This is all u got or have any other units basic stuff like gravel n 3 stars?

[dusty sphinx]

This is just rediculoud

Lol

[fossil sphinx]

doable with 4 ops

you already have sash and pram

if you have exu and yu you can probably clear the hcm

[dusty sphinx]

I tried blocking him with ulp but not enough

I dont have yu sadly

[fossil sphinx]

hm

do u have exu

[dusty sphinx]

I do have

[fossil sphinx]

may be doable if we borrow yu

[dusty sphinx]

Whats the yu for tho

We cant damage him

[drowsy heart]

Teleport loop.

[dusty sphinx]

It cant be forever

[drowsy heart]

Pramanix's Movement Speed Reduction means you don't really need much else.

[lime lantern]

it can

[dusty sphinx]

Hes immune to slow no?

[lime lantern]

why do u have so many ops there bruh

lgoos ifrit saria 😭

[drowsy heart]

No, his current Movement Speed can be reduced down to his original Movement Speed, just not below.

[dusty sphinx]

I just tried to test damage

[lime lantern]

pram s3 worked for me

if its too tight, u can add trag s3

[dusty sphinx]

It seems 90% DR is kinda disgusting

[lime lantern]

he dies eventually

its not ur concern cause u can infinitely loop

[dusty sphinx]

After you exu cov s3 how do u get yu again

[fossil sphinx]

you just teleport him back over and over with exu 2

its an infinite loop

[lime lantern]

^

put down yu, when he dies, bring back with exu s3

done

[dusty sphinx]

No but after mrs cov use ult its 70s

[lime lantern]

yeah and u can stall him for 70s

[fossil sphinx]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DR1xB6ESZ/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[dusty sphinx]

Shi

[fossil sphinx]

you might need some levels tho

but also you can just take less risks

and copy it for 15

so maybe u dont need the levels then

[drowsy heart]

Stuff like Surtr's or Hoshiguma's immortality can also be used to slow down.

[lime lantern]

oh

theyre not even doing max risk?

just do the ulpenis gladiia slop

[dusty sphinx]

Im trying to beat the risk thats 5

[lime lantern]

for 15

[dusty sphinx]

I tried ulp gladia haruka ulp dies

[drowsy heart]

Uh, 5 Risk is very manageable.

[lime lantern]

if ur doing 15 risk u can just block patriot with ulpenis gladiia haruka

[dusty sphinx]

Ulp gets fried haha

[dusty sphinx]

ok this is kinda nut

Pram alt actually thanos?

oh you teleport him there

thats disgusting

...

[lime lantern]

yes then u just do it infinitely

for about 20 minutes

[dusty sphinx]

holy pram alt

I wonder what was the intended way of beating this stage

they put 90% damage resistence

people were saying yu isnt all that but when hes needed hes really needed huh

[drowsy heart]

Stalling is part of the game,

[fringe solstice]

doing is6 end3 without any healing is a pain

good thing mizuki is mod is busted

[dusty sphinx]

haruka the real mvp

[fringe solstice]

don't have also I got like 1 medic voucher and like 2 support vouchers which I couldn't candle

ignore the fact it is d9

[somber falcon]

It's CC
It's by design that there's only so many ways to clear it

[elder flume]

Its up to your creativity and patience

1 hour clear isnt all that bad

[dusty sphinx]

without yu how do you clear exactly

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/m8FRmWxM3j8?si=A9PzCiHlp6jaNt5h maybe borrow a kirin yato, n fill the rest slot with high atk unit so u can utilise silver2 s2 dmg for emergency leaks n u be fine jaye is Lee n caper is narantuya, beagle is Jessica, cardigan is mountain, just make sure ur last deploy not draw laser aggro n use device don't let avalanche the storbit n u be fine

[elder flume]

Theres Ulpi hyperbuff

Summon spam

[dusty sphinx]

how do u buff him

[elder flume]

And pretty sure Closure Kal2 will creater another sub clear

Uh Haruka Skadi2 Gladiia CE Specter2 ?

[dusty sphinx]

oh CE

[noble pewter]

I just tank with base hoshi as usual

[dusty sphinx]

fair enough

[noble pewter]

Just buff her with stainless turret n siegalter

[elder flume]

Score 15 is easier and can drop a lot of the buffers

[dusty sphinx]

this makes sense

[elder flume]

25 is tanking 4k x 4

[dusty sphinx]

is there no way to give ulpianus defence

[elder flume]

Do you have the dp for Shining

Do you have the dp for Shining

[drowsy heart]

-# Shining.

[elder flume]

Wtf double

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thornsalt shining

[maiden hound]

bison

[dusty sphinx]

[bison]

[elder flume]

70 defense is 280 damage mitigated

More than Skadi2 120

[dusty sphinx]

damn

[drowsy heart]

With her new Module it'll be another 120.

[noble pewter]

What if u stain turret for phy dmg reduction or siegalter

[dusty sphinx]

stain turret is a good idea

[noble pewter]

This way siege can also pure dmg when ulpi is blocking with s3

[dusty sphinx]

does true dmg go through damage reduction

[noble pewter]

It shud unless it's a special type

[elder flume]

Depends

[scarlet fulcrum]

Underline Sanctuary specify it ye

[elder flume]

Cant remember if HCM was true dr or not

[scarlet fulcrum]

Other DR can mitigate it

[noble pewter]

Ya so the pure will pierce it

Cause it just say less phy n arts

[dusty sphinx]

stainless turret should be kinda op no?

[noble pewter]

Anyways I notice he go down much faster when my siegalter s3

[elder flume]

Its a matter of
Do you have the dp for it

A lot of my runs just die when opening

[dusty sphinx]

true he walks so fast

Like chill out bro

[drowsy heart]

Hmm, I wonder how high you could stack the Defense of someone like Nian.

[elder flume]

Theoretically infinite

[noble pewter]

Can try slow bind with ines so u have more time setup

[elder flume]

Practically uh havent calced

[dusty sphinx]

You cant bind him

[drowsy heart]

Patriot is immune to both.

Well, not Slow but can't be reduced below starting speed.

Oh wait, no he is immune to Slow.

Just not Movement Speed Reduction.

Funny how that is.

[noble pewter]

Ah ya just do the shadow sentry in his path

30% reduction

[dusty sphinx]

is CE healing actually good?

Worth building or

[elder flume]

Hes not immune to slow

Just that the movespeed min is changed to 0.4

[drowsy heart]

The 5 Risk one says he is I think?

[dusty sphinx]

rainchan what do you think about CE viability

[left egret]

Slow is decel binder thing and movement speed reduction is everybody else like ambushers, ines and so on?

[elder flume]

Which does nothing unless you take +40% movespeed where you can then slow

CE imo is bad against anything not Sarkaz

Just so happens everything in this map is Sarkaz

[dusty sphinx]

Huh

what does she do

[elder flume]

DR against Sarkaz

[fossil sphinx]

she gives you more stacks

[dusty sphinx]

its only 10%

15%

[scarlet fulcrum]

I meant its dmg scale

[elder flume]

You take anything you can

For a 6 cost not bad

Compared to 28 dp Stainless for 20%

[dusty sphinx]

[fleet edge]

That’s like valuing closure for damage reduction
I don’t think anyone really does that

[dusty sphinx]

damage reduction is very strong

[fleet edge]

Or I guess that pretty much is CEs entire value

[dusty sphinx]

it stacks with sanctuary too

[elder flume]

Its just the map opening to look out for tbh

Idk how much better dp opening is with SA2 since i tried before he arrived

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is there any atk risk for patrick i forgot

[drowsy heart]

For everyone.

[elder flume]

Just the Herald spawn

[noble pewter]

Ya I stacked CE, siegalter, stain turret, haruka bubble to let base hoshi duel patriot

[dusty sphinx]

he gets a lot of aspd

[fleet edge]

Patrick

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yea only herald

[dusty sphinx]

Wisadel ❤️

[umbral kite]

kal is module in normal content?

[noble pewter]

I'm too poor to get the others n it worked for the holo mode this the exact team I used for risk 15 patriot

Hmm I think the borrowed was tragodia free paralyze n cat

Kalsit just to heal cause I deploy her top lane n she is extra range heal tile to reach hoshi bottom

[azure roost]

[scarlet fulcrum]

What niche in th@t account?

[umbral kite]

she can outheal risk 15 enemies?

[noble pewter]

Most the enemy is not a threat if take the correct risk, n hoshi can tank them all

Have wis to kill as well

[azure roost]

yknow that acc have ave mujica

i just clear s stage for PO

to buy skin

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ended with unga bunga niche

[dusty sphinx]

wis is the best trash mob killer fr

❤️

[azure roost]

i just sont want to bother on middle lnae

so i just go back to usign hoe s2 with healer

and lapp² s2 silence

but she lack of damage so its kinda fucke up at end

no mastery on s2

[dusty sphinx]

which silence

[scarlet fulcrum]

Her talent

[left night]

This should have been an expert map lol
No way it's in the same tier with the dorothy event anni map

[hasty minnow]

pram2 makes anni's way easier

[dusty sphinx]

bro I laughed way too hard at this

[lapis quartz]

I have a question can stainless buff mantra's dmg output like it does qiubai

[drowsy heart]

Stainless' S3 devices can gain Paralysis stacks through Mantra's S3 if that's what you mean.

[lapis quartz]

I was asking since I heard mantra does less dmg the less enemies there are

So I thought if I have stainless s3

We can always gurantee mantra has two enemies

[elder flume]

its not really about the enemies

its about paralysis stacking

enemies help but after that and Mantra does 3x paralysis theres nothing

[drowsy heart]

• Truth Unchanted works by storing excess Paralysis stacks as a hidden "overflow" value assigned to each affected enemy. Every 1.5 seconds while the skill is active, Mantra will check for all enemies in range that currently have an overflow value greater than 0, then reduce it by 1 and immediately fire the Elemental damage follow-up attack at the targets.
• If a target with overflowing Paralysis stacks leaves Mantra's range or leaves the map while the skill is active, all stacks will be immediately consumed to launch the corresponding number of follow-up attacks.
• All overflowing stacks of Paralysis are cleared when Truth Unchanted ends.

(From the wiki.)

Stainless' S3 devices can hold Paralysis stacks so you can retreat them for extra bounces, I can't say how effective it is but it does work I heard.

[lapis quartz]

I tested it as I have everyone there except mantra

It does work really well

[lapis quartz]

It shreded bosses but the thing is it is overkill

Most of the time

[wary shuttle]

are you supposed to kill the orbs for the boss

[latent halo]

back to y0

ok y0 operator cant even clear h7-4

time to y6

[scarlet fulcrum]

Whats the criteria for this? Roulette? cause ifrit there

[latent halo]

whats the latest y0 operator

w weedy ?

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u meant y1 phantom

[latent halo]

checking prts

[scarlet fulcrum]

W weedy was 1st anniv

[somber falcon]

Everyone up to phantom + suzu

[latent halo]

phantom is 1st anniv in EN no ?

[somber falcon]

No

Phantom was solo banner

[latent halo]

or was that CN's

iirc yo and cn schedule is a bit diff

[scarlet fulcrum]

En 1st anniv W 31th dec

And CN first anniv still W

[glass monolith]

Raid can't lock in on boss normally, and surtr S3 only if enemy in her normal range instead if she even reaching with new range, screw this mode

[elder flume]

same as old Stronghold

always use base range

unless youre called Ulpi S1

[scarlet fulcrum]

So only him with funny interaction, interesting

[elder flume]

theres prob more but hes one of the memorable ones

[weak gazelle]

lot of effort (yes my beloved rng) but satisfy with result :ya:

[wicked minnow]

viy s3m3 🗣️

who do i pit him up against?

[bright juniper]

ch16 reflector slug

[wicked minnow]

bet

[weak gazelle]

no idea what viy do

[glass monolith]

Well he solo 1-7 so probably good

[wicked minnow]

arts dot is sourced to him 💀

he lost a 1v1 to a slug 😭

[glass monolith]

Take a shot when arts dot exists to screw with you. I am looking on you shield enemy from Pepe event

[glass monolith]

Who doesn't lose against taunt reflect elite slug WITH NO FUCKING INTRODUCTION. WHY EVERY ENEMY WAS INTORUDCED AND SLUGS JUST PLACED x7 NEXT TO BLUE BOX GET SCREWED

[weak gazelle]

he look shit, but heard he is a better eben

man.... poor eben

[glass monolith]

Eben suffers with not stacking shots when enemy in range when like 75% of his kit "stacking good"
Viy just stacks like stack addicted even when enemy in range, hype

[weak gazelle]

ohh
that mean the charged shot we can control it manually?

[wicked minnow]

issue is that he has typhon s3 problem where when there is 1 enemy close to the main target, his damage is halved

also he stacks like an addict but has a worse filter than eben

[glass monolith]

Drops Eunectes S2, Crownslayer S3 on mention of single enemy

[wicked minnow]

😭

[weak gazelle]

wait wtf

[wicked minnow]

i dont think he's particularly better than eben

maybe situationally

[weak gazelle]

HG sure is something
they can make pram2 as good caster and now viy which is... :icant:

[dapper hedge]

Welfare tax

[wicked minnow]

:realmad:

mechanist waiting room

[dapper hedge]

Wait for RA3 welfare

[wicked minnow]

mmmmmmm

i dont think it has one

it has a mountain skin

and that's kinda all they anounced for it

maybe still in the works idk

[vital vessel]

wait so close

[wicked minnow]

maybe not anounced

[weak gazelle]

ya wait and see
i like when some say anniv banner is a skip some are must

[wicked minnow]

also

wtf

15th??

anniv banner is very good

it's just nothing is a must

wang banner is turbo good tho

depends on your expectations

[weak gazelle]

i didnt expect anything anyway

[wicked minnow]

then you'll be very happy with kalter and closure

[weak gazelle]

just want to know new ops kit and gimmick and how impactful they are in combat

[wicked minnow]

i really like both of them so ye

[vital vessel]

closure is pretty good for a vanguard tbh

range is nice

[wicked minnow]

agree

[vital vessel]

idk kaltsit, not too big of a fan

[weak gazelle]

how her dmg compare to mumu?

[wicked minnow]

1.5k damage every 0.5 seconds

can increase by 50% when blocked by ally in summon range

[weak gazelle]

i believe more or less the same

[wicked minnow]

very high

uhhhh

better dph no?

low bar but it should make a big difference i think

[weak gazelle]

the same is not the right word
maybe in same league

[rustic eagle]

I wanna see more of her S3

[wicked minnow]

uhhh

if you can think of a good stage to test her on

i can go ahead and test her

but sl7

cuz my CN friends are 🫃

[rustic eagle]

I c

[weak gazelle]

[wicked minnow]

ok i found an s3m2 in the wild

[weak gazelle]

some trivia
which one better, buff closure or her own buff?

[plucky flint]

S2 feels like a vg skill to go

[wicked minnow]

wdym?

closure own buff is like +8% atk to rhodes island operators

[weak gazelle]

uhh
she getting buff from other to increase her dmg or her talent buff for RIknights?

[wicked minnow]

her own buff is on the lower end of buffs