strategy

[rustic eagle]

@plucky flint

i cleared everything else i would be PISSED

[pastel ledge]

Struggling like hell os-s-5 challenge mode, here's my krooster if anyone has any suggestions https://www.krooster.com/u/portalscout

[violet sable]

SA2=>Saki S2 deal with the left lane, healers+hoshi s2 blocks the door, put someone like rope to cancel the deer charge?

[drowsy heart]

If you're willing to borrow an Exusiai (or Wis'adel) this might help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR8YlEF_DCc

[rustic eagle]

HHMMMMMMM

techincally

i can do it leaking two lol

worthless tho

[violet sable]

Oh actually you have ulpi gladiia, might be a better pair to block the door

[pastel ledge]

This was the setup I was doing at first, but then I have no way to deal with the bats on the left

[drowsy heart]

Sakiko or Thorns should be able to.

[violet sable]

SA2 S3+someone cheap can do the work

At the beginning

And then you will have enough dp to place anyone you have

[pastel ledge]

sa2 has helped me get ulpi out immediately yeah

but I still don't have dp to also get hoshi and sakiko s2

[violet sable]

You put like a frd at the left lane first

SA2's bird would attack from there and should be able to deal with like the first three waves of bats easily

[drowsy heart]

Use more Vanguards then.

I used three for my clear.

[violet sable]

And after that you can switch for whoever you have

[pastel ledge]

lemme see what I can swap around rq

[woven plinth]

You have surfer

[pastel ledge]

I do but she still can't seem to handle the bats fast enough

[woven plinth]

She should be able to hold them for a good while OR you can use her to handle all the snipers

[drowsy heart]

-# What I did if it's relevant.

Left side just needs one of your Lord Guards though.

[woven plinth]

Making Gummy face the golem...

[drowsy heart]

E1L60 too.

Was pretty funny that she managed to stun a golem before it attacked three times in a row.

[umbral kite]

sash1 isnt able to lanehold on his own

[woven plinth]

Never piss off a girl that has a frying pan in her hand

[drowsy heart]

They have Sakiko and Thorns.

[pastel ledge]

ok I got, kroos alter helped me deal with the deer

Thanks yall, the suggestion for using rope for the deer made me think of stunning the deer

[rustic eagle]

YUUMMMMM

WE DID IT

PRAMANIX I NEED YOUR HAND IN MARRIAGE

FUCK SAKIKO COSTS 40 SP IN CHALLENGE MODE NOOOO

degen too

[bright juniper]

just sash s3 robot

[rustic eagle]

i need her like

[bright juniper]

also that’s dp, not sp

[rustic eagle]

typo mb

before sash

[bright juniper]

sash deploy = instant saki deploy if switch with robot anyways 💀

[rustic eagle]

would it prioritize pram over her

[bright juniper]

no, it prioritizes high cost and lowest cost switch

it only changes priorities between classes if they’re equal cost or near cost

[elder flume]

class first

cost after

tho since theyre both prioritized then cost comes

[rustic eagle]

pram struggles a lot more killing the ice block and i cant use degen anymore

[bright juniper]

what laneholder are you using for mid lane

[rustic eagle]

pram + sakiko deal with everything there

[woven plinth]

Why would you use a laneholder for mid...

[rustic eagle]

?

[bright juniper]

oh are they not doing os-s-5

[woven plinth]

They are but you don't need anyone to hold mid. Can just nuke stuff

[bright juniper]

avalanche:

[woven plinth]

You eat one, device any next

Tho the mobs never triggered a second iirc

[rustic eagle]

ive been leaving it empty yea

now i struggle finishing the ice golem tho

[woven plinth]

The first or the second one?

[rustic eagle]

first

second is probably pretty easy to stall

didnt get there yet tho so idk

[woven plinth]

What do you use for the first one?

[rustic eagle]

degen + sash fragile

during pram s3

the stat difference + not being able to use degen locks me tho

[woven plinth]

Do you have Wis up?

[rustic eagle]

im not using wis

[woven plinth]

Ok... Mon3tr?

Or any true damage source

[rustic eagle]

then i cant manage left

im using sakiko to manage left and middle

[woven plinth]

Sakiko is not true damage

[rustic eagle]

and?

[woven plinth]

You want either someone who deal BS damage like Wis or someone who can deal true or elemental damage

[umbral kite]

and if you can, someone with silence

[rustic eagle]

🥀

yall ignoring all i say or

[umbral kite]

not required but it helps alot for middle lane

[woven plinth]

You said you have golems problem. So you need what I wrote above

[rustic eagle]

i gave you more context than that

[bright juniper]

oh right, the guards get fucked by silence as well

[rustic eagle]

if you ignore it its pointless

[plucky flint]

@rustic eagle let me cook a bit more

[rustic eagle]

lamo

[plucky flint]

if u can e1 40 sl7 contrail this could work

[rustic eagle]

yknow what

for challenge mode atp might as well ig

can she actually SOLO those bats

[plucky flint]

no lmao

[rustic eagle]

then what do i add tho

[plucky flint]

Sa is with there, need to retreat for the trag cat

I need to find better timing

[rustic eagle]

are you doing cm btw

[plucky flint]

want me to cm?

[rustic eagle]

yes

[plucky flint]

I might need to e1 60 contrail

[rustic eagle]

im there rn

[plucky flint]

damn

u done normal?

[rustic eagle]

yup

[woven plinth]

CM isn't that much different than normal, you just need higher dp gen

[plucky flint]

I though SA can redeploy before waves of bat

[plucky flint]

fuck you have Myrtle

[rustic eagle]

ive also said why it does change a good bunch in my case

[plucky flint]

and here I am going for fang

[rustic eagle]

im legit using her to bait crossbow shots lol

[rustic eagle]

• stat diff making the ice cube not die

[plucky flint]

u can use your teq for snipers btw

cost lesser than lapp

[woven plinth]

In your case it shouldn't really change much really tbh tho

[plucky flint]

it's just manual but ye

[rustic eagle]

i cant run degen

as ive said above already

even in a message where i pinged you

[plucky flint]

degen for who?

[rustic eagle]

i just cant run her cuz i need sash s3 to target sakiko

it targets degen if shes in the squad

[bright juniper]

they’re using degen + pram2 + sash2 all for first ice golem

[plucky flint]

that's too much

[woven plinth]

Isn't degen just... close to no damage there?

[rustic eagle]

its for the stall

[plucky flint]

feels like degen would work better for mid

she murders everything there

[rustic eagle]

i dont really need anything mid anyway

at least rn

[plucky flint]

unfortunate can't copy your degen since my degen is e1

[rustic eagle]

i could start over w a new strat

[bright juniper]

degen + lapp mid then could use trag + plume fang, etc. to kill golems

[rustic eagle]

is there a vanguard that could solo the bats or a specialist

[plucky flint]

since u have Myrtle lemme cook

[umbral kite]

can contrail not hold off the bats long enough for saki to get on the field without s3's dp swap?

[woven plinth]

If you want to stall use an op that can stall like a defender

[rustic eagle]

maybe asca or smth of the sort

[plucky flint]

even Ines can't solo bats

[rustic eagle]

i dont have contrail

[rustic eagle]

dies + splash damage to sash that also dies

[umbral kite]

oh fyril talking about her made me think you did

[zenith relic]

Ay bro am back again

[plucky flint]

buy her

[rustic eagle]

heh

maybe

[plucky flint]

I mean, they said they can buy contrail if they want to

[rustic eagle]

i;; see if i can as i am rn

[bright juniper]

even trag s1 should stall golems alone as long as you have literally anybody to block the golems for their slow ass attacks

[plucky flint]

borrowing saki for bat is

[zenith relic]

Anyone cleared os s 5 ?

[plucky flint]

this guy above yes

[woven plinth]

Healing defender or try healing the staller with a healer from mid? Also died?

[rustic eagle]

she helps a bunch middle lane too

[plucky flint]

how is saki reaching the bats and mid

[rustic eagle]

with her notes wdym

she easily can

[woven plinth]

Band maybe?

[plucky flint]

wait a minute

yes

band

[rustic eagle]

i do not own a single mujika girl lol

[plucky flint]

no

[rustic eagle]

just her notes

like rain showed me in that other story level

[woven plinth]

She can't reach that far wth

[rustic eagle]

bro i just cleared the stage w it lol

[plucky flint]

bro is coping for flying notes

[rustic eagle]

why would i be lying

[rustic eagle]

its consistent

try it yourself

[plucky flint]

u truly are a madman

[fleet edge]

He made her face right I guess
And probably had someone else helping

[rustic eagle]

only for the gooses

she kills all the guards

[rustic eagle]

not the first time i say this in the chat btw

[woven plinth]

Which stage are we about again? Cause I'm getting confused

[rustic eagle]

"EN cant read" is that what yall like saying

[violet sable]

Saki facing right + Umiri in the middle can even handle the sniper

It's stupid

[fleet edge]

Goose’s..?

[rustic eagle]

not you fyril btw

[drowsy heart]

Gummy solos the golems.

(Ignore Haruka and SilverAsh.)

[woven plinth]

Ignore Haruka xD

[rustic eagle]

w u official use

fr tho

[drowsy heart]

Just for DP Switch.

[rustic eagle]

maybe i need to get the 4 star arts damage dealer

i forgot her name cupcake or smth

mousse

[drowsy heart]

Uh, Pudding?

[rustic eagle]

mousse mousse

[umbral kite]

she does arts?

[rustic eagle]

yes

[drowsy heart]

Oh wait, right she is an Arts Fighter.

[plucky flint]

mousse is arts guard

[drowsy heart]

I only remember her for her Attack debuff.

[umbral kite]

holy shit she does

i thought she just did a ton of phys this entire time 😭

[rustic eagle]

bro i was gonna say as a joke i could raise astesia

since i have her

[umbral kite]

i thought she was a dreadnought or smth

[rustic eagle]

but shes gonna end up being more expensive than saki

if i e1 her

[plucky flint]

buy contrail :yah:

brb lemme cook once more

[rustic eagle]

alr alr

looking forward to what you end up with

try saki tho

:)

actually i have better question

how much help does contrail need

[rustic eagle]

also btw

do you have pram sash2

@plucky flint

one consideration i could make

is make an early investment

and raise kal

what do u think

[plucky flint]

Kal is shit here 2 deployment slot

also no s3

[woven plinth]

Kal needs s3 also

[rustic eagle]

i mean i dont have any use for a bunch of them lol

[rustic eagle]

i meant all the way to e2

for the ice cubes ykyk

only unfort thing is i cant use the summon on both sides that wouldve been heat if i could

actually nvm i can ig but he turns to paper

which maybe wont matter that much

if i cant do it by the end of event i raise kal i think

unless contrail looks very very convenient

[drowsy heart]

(Cheaper too, to raise.)

[rustic eagle]

i mean yea but idk how much i care abt having a raised contrail in the future

fair enough tho

[plucky flint]

[rustic eagle]

ooooooo

can u tell me the op levels

maybe maybe i can replicate indeed

[plucky flint]

[rustic eagle]

wait pram on left side?

[plucky flint]

nah this lapp is shit

[rustic eagle]

nawwwwww

[plucky flint]

can teq even hit air?

yes it's a dumb question

[rustic eagle]

cant

bro didnt learn enough from mlynar

[drowsy heart]

(Mlynar's S3 does hit air though.)

[rustic eagle]

yea thats what i meant

he shouldve learned more from him

oh wait i understand the ambiguity

i meant teq not fyril

[plucky flint]

I wanna try mantra instead of lappland in the last bat waves

but I don't have her

[plucky flint]

pram just for the waves of arts guard

trag solos right just let fang sits there to block golem

[fringe solstice]

mlynar is a 6 star so he can

[plucky flint]

6* privilege smh

[prisma ledge]

Just like Wisadel

[plucky flint]

rosmontis slander

[prisma ledge]

Oh but Rosmo cant hit air

[fringe solstice]

with contrails she can

[foggy grove]

rosmo can hit air opie

[rustic eagle]

Kal alter is a rosmontis upscale

I knew already that’s why I willingly pulled her out of all limiteds

[prisma ledge]

Oh

[foggy grove]

just need them blocked

[rustic eagle]

Kal alter!

[prisma ledge]

Kal alter?

Monst3r?

[violet sable]

Kal alter in cn

[rustic eagle]

No esperanta

[prisma ledge]

Oh CN

[drowsy heart]

Leizi is an odd mix in her Talent lightning can hit air, her S1 can't, her S2 can (but range can't go through high-ground tiles) and S3 attacks can hit air but the currents generated by it can't.

[prisma ledge]

Interesting

[rustic eagle]

Btw if anyone has ideas on what on my krooster could help me finish off the CM golems lmk

Anytime

I still wanna try to see if it’s possible with what I got before I buy or upgrade anything

[fringe solstice]

how far do I need to scroll up

[plucky flint]

wait where's your e1 shira

[rustic eagle]

Shira?

[plucky flint]

around 2 and half hours ago

shirayuki

[rustic eagle]

#strategy message

[rustic eagle]

Idk who that even is ngl

[plucky flint]

I thought u have base slaves raised

[fringe solstice]

[rustic eagle]

Is it the shuriken girl

[plucky flint]

yes

[rustic eagle]

I see

[plucky flint]

she good in base smh

[rustic eagle]

I see I must’ve missed it

Ill raise her then

Thank you for letting me know

[plucky flint]

lemme try using aoe sniper with lappland

[rustic eagle]

I don’t mind if you decide to drop lapp altogether dw

[fringe solstice]

would mantra s2 work or just borrow trag?

[rustic eagle]

Mantra S2 didn’t do shit on the standard mode ones

I think he’s using trag Alr

[topaz sun]

can I even beat os-s-5 cm

[rustic eagle]

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

Yes

[drowsy heart]

Should be possible.

[topaz sun]

how would i go about beating both the bats and the snipers

for my non cm clear i used both lappland and sa1 who are both out now

[rustic eagle]

Obligatory are you good with borrows

[topaz sun]

oh yeah

[drowsy heart]

If you have an Agent Vanguard like Surfer or Cantabile they would be good for the archers, don't need to be E2 either.

[rustic eagle]

Then one thing you can do is borrow Sash2 to cheat out one of the two guards you use for that

While he temporarily does the job of the other one on S3

[fringe solstice]

well the stats on the golem are pretty high so true and elemental are the best

[rustic eagle]

I don’t have those options unless I change my borrow

[drowsy heart]

Though in general, who else do you have in your roster?

[topaz sun]

not an agent sadly

i got tragodia from a single 10 on the select banner but surfer did not come with

[rustic eagle]

I think try to borrow sash2 if you’re good w that

[drowsy heart]

Got a Krooster link?

[topaz sun]

one moment

[rustic eagle]

Mr ts good just have everything do you have any ideas I could use for S5 CM

[scarlet fulcrum]

Aimed nowell or firewhistle pot, and 2 6* dupes comes in 10 pulls

[fringe solstice]

suffering from success

[rustic eagle]

[topaz sun]

https://krooster.com/u/quantumzizo

is there anyone im heavily sleeping on

[scarlet fulcrum]

For bats, most likely contrail. Assuming fresh acc

Oh thats quite fine acc nvm

[topaz sun]

wow i just noticed my lapp is at sl5 wtf

i should fix that rn

[drowsy heart]

Hmm, let me try something with Snegurochka.

[analog fern]

Why does every guide for OS-S-5 use Ines

[rustic eagle]

Ground unit that hits air

That’s good for other reasons but so she’s just there as well

Prob

[drowsy heart]

That isn't a Guard either.

And yeah Ines is just good in general.

[fringe solstice]

well the low end clear used puzzle

agent vgs op

except the 4 star one

[scarlet fulcrum]

Welp if u dont want to buy contrail just borrow sakiko, since u have SAlter e2

[rustic eagle]

I did that yea

But I struggle with CM

I can’t kill the ice block guy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Pramalter s3

[rustic eagle]

Yea

But he doesn’t fully die

[umbral kite]

build your pramalter more

[rustic eagle]

And the damage left with the extra stats from CM and not being able to use degen make it exxxxtra difficult

[rustic eagle]

I mean then I can buy contrail as well

Atp I wanna see if I can do with what I have yk

[spark idol]

Lol you've been at this for hours now.
I appreciate the tenacity

[rustic eagle]

I mean hey I got the normal mode

[topaz sun]

the cm restriction cripples my strat so bad it aint even funny lmao

[rustic eagle]

For the Cm I’m not touching the game tn anymore but I’m still thinking abt it

[drowsy heart]

Snegurochka E1L40 can handle the archers by herself I think.

Hoshiguma with one or two healers can probably take care of the middle lane with some Tragodia support. As for the bats, a borrow would probably be best I think.

[topaz sun]

thank you for testing this

i will try it when my sanity regens

[rustic eagle]

I was thinking that maybe mousse would work

But I don’t have her 🥀

[spark idol]

I doubt Mousse does the job

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp u kinda bad at managing resource anyway

[rustic eagle]

Wdym

[drowsy heart]

Also you can use Pramanix S3 for helidrop in case something breaks through, can't tell how much of a difference Tragodia will make because I don't have him. Also the golems will be an issue, Cuora might be able to tank for a while if you can get her in a healer's range.

[rustic eagle]

Bro dropped some slander

[topaz sun]

tragodia handles golems ez

[scarlet fulcrum]

I meant playing that long and base workers not even raised

[rustic eagle]

Fair enouuuugg

[topaz sun]

unironically the golem lane is the least dangerous when they usually cause me trouble

[drowsy heart]

But yeah just don't put Snegurochka first, otherwise she melts.

[rustic eagle]

Who am I lacking apart from shuriken girl and perfumer

[scarlet fulcrum]

u can check /baseskills

[drowsy heart]

Kroos unfortunately isn't enough for the bats, but Snegurochka should be for the archers mm.

[rustic eagle]

I mean do I benefit raising all of those if I already have an op doing the same equivalent thing for all uptime

[scarlet fulcrum]

U barely have any worker wdym

Raised i meant

[rustic eagle]

Alrrrr

Since I have vermeil I’ll get bean and click up as well atp they’re cool

After I do the others

[scarlet fulcrum]

Fair

[topaz sun]

thank you for the help i did not even think of snegurochka before

[umbral kite]

and you shouldnt

[scarlet fulcrum]

Putting that aside, if u want tragodia strat u want someone who cant hit air on left. Looking at the option its contrail. If u dont want to. Borrow sakiko and add more dmg for golem

[plucky flint]

can't think of a way to deal with the last wave of bats with ur ops

trag is too busy dealing with 2 lanes, can't cat the bats

[rustic eagle]

I see

So wait not even contrail cuts it?

[plucky flint]

contrail can't kill 10 bats at once tbh

the swarm is too much

[rustic eagle]

If I raise shirayuki which I will

Is it doable

[drowsy heart]

Actually, one thing I might have messed up, she doesn't have much room for error with the archers' movement (and she can't be placed at the start without dying pretty quickly) so it might be best to place her one tile to the left (the first archer in my run was killed with the help of SilverAsh's S3).

[plucky flint]

I doubt so also, my e1 max catapult ain't doing shit

[rustic eagle]

I see

[plucky flint]

can't use my shira since it's max

can degen S3 hit air tho?

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can just get insta m3 ticket and borrow sakiko welp just add more dmg on golem

[drowsy heart]

I think all Swordmaster Skills can hit air? At least Cutter's can.

[plucky flint]

ok that might solve it

[drowsy heart]

Hmm, maybe Cutter is just weird.

[plucky flint]

try using degen S3 for the last wave of bats, she will be cheap since she's the one who gonna swap dp with S3 sa2

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yea they have degen, would cycle nicely with contrail

[plucky flint]

when contrail got overwhelmed, just degen

now trag and pram can focus on mid

can't try tho since my degen underlevel

[scarlet fulcrum]

33sp at sL7 still nice, +4 on deployment

[plucky flint]

even e0 Jaye works

[drowsy heart]

Bibeak S1, Ch'en S2, Degenbrecher S3 and Irene S3, hmm. So they all have one that can while Cutter hits with both of hers and Tachanka can always hit air apparently.

[plucky flint]

Just manage the cat so he can tank

[atomic harness]

how do i get combos in the mini game

[drowsy heart]

Use sequential numbers to collect like 1 > 2 > 3 or 4 > 5.

[atomic harness]

ty

[scarlet fulcrum]

Decide the resources first with step. But yea combo will yield irrelevant resources +2 each. Combo sometimes irrelevant if u need other mats badly

[atomic harness]

gotcha ty, dunno how i missed that in the tutorial

[scarlet fulcrum]

Only The banned node mode need luck ig, so yea gl with that one. Only some lv btw dw

Easiest one probably chest mode

20/12 first try casual. Probably the punishment not that bad

[drowsy heart]

Yeah this works (though Exusiai died because the next enemy didn't spawn quick enough, pfft).

[weak gazelle]

hmmm
when insist to bring vulpis it lead to bad strat :icant:

[drowsy heart]

Nice to have Snegurochka usage at least.

[topaz sun]

only makes the surfer/cantabile lack hurt more

[drowsy heart]

Yeah Surfer (or Cantabile) is a pretty good starter for this stage since they have on-deploy Skills (with an Attack boost) so they can kill the first archer pretty handily.

[fringe solstice]

puzzle is better imo but you need to do reed event

[umbral kite]

thats only 4 stages, no?

[fringe solstice]

ig it isn't too bad. I figured max pot was nice for him

[drowsy heart]

True, I forgot about Puzzle because I've never used him.

-# (Snegurochka has a better design anyhow.)

[fringe solstice]

I have too many agent vgs raised to raise puzzle

[topaz sun]

puzzle a welfare? I will take literally any vanguard I can get

[drowsy heart]

If only Hypergryph had done her better...

[drowsy heart]

From What the Firelight Casts.
Rekindled Flame movement.

[spark idol]

I'm seriously considering building Puzzle as an honorary 4* agent.
They murdered snuggy so she wouldn't dominate IS; it's not fair.

But, 2x the cost and 0 the waifu...

[drowsy heart]

One hand giveth good design and one hand taketh good kit.

[umbral kite]

sneg alter for ch18

[drowsy heart]

One must cope.

[shrewd fractal]

I didnt have any other ranged vg and alr borrowed exu2 so i had to use puzzle for this stage

Worked fine, just gotta farm dp and add a guard asap to help lol

[drowsy heart]

I couldn't use any Guards in my clear because otherwise Lemuen would not be prioritized for DP switch, heh.

[shrewd fractal]

I used dp switch on ulpipi

[plucky flint]

just bring 3 flagpipes

[shrewd fractal]

Love watching 48 become 3

[drowsy heart]

I did bring three Vanguards.

[shrewd fractal]

Idk why ulpipi on s2 couldnt even tickle the storisbits on the right side but lemu s2 charged shot could take out a huge chunk of hp

Doesnt ulpi have more atk

[topaz sun]

more atk but less multiplier

[stark schooner]

No he does not, lemu s2 shot is like 12k dmg

[shrewd fractal]

Damn....so more multiplier is better against high def??

[vivid rain]

i mean it depends, just math it all out and see

[stark schooner]

I mean, he does have mor atk but having a ton of damage just means armor is non-existant for lemuen pretty much

[shrewd fractal]

If i could math i wouldnt suck at this game

[drowsy heart]

Physical Damage is Original Damage - Defense.

[topaz sun]

just general damage per hit is better

lemu dph is ridiculous

[drowsy heart]

Attack and multiplier independently are irrelevant.

[vivid rain]

dawg it's just addition and multiplication

some may even say it's abacus tier calculation

[stark schooner]

Are there any good guides for clearing os s5? My brain is not braining enough

[drowsy heart]

I was actually genuinely surprised how basic damage calculations were when I started.

[shrewd fractal]

So basically raw atk =/= dmg?? Dmg is from multiplier?? Idk i'm lost

[topaz sun]

raw atk * mult - defense

[drowsy heart]

(Attack * Multiplier) - Defense = Damage
For Physical attacks.

[topaz sun]

if mult was applied after defense even lemon couldn't scratch storisbit

[drowsy heart]

Arts damage is just (Attack * Multiplier) * (1 - RES) = Damage.

Not including damage reduction and other stuff, but that's mostly all multiplicative.

[shrewd fractal]

But if let's say lemu has 1k atk and 300% multiplier, and ulpi has 4k atk (example numbers), dont they add up to the same which is 4k dmg??

[drowsy heart]

Anyway, Storisbits have 3000 Defense which isn't so bad for Lemuen.

Lemuen has way more Attack than that.

[topaz sun]

see this would be the case but lemu does not only have a 300% multi in total

[shrewd fractal]

Oh....

[drowsy heart]

She's a Deadeye that also gets an Attack buff on S2.

[topaz sun]

the skill gives a fat +70% even while not aiming

and aiming does a separate multiplicative 425%

[shrewd fractal]

[drowsy heart]

And she deals +15% damage to Wanted enemies.
(More specifically, Wanted enemies take 15% more damage from Laterano Operators.)

Also +10% Attack buff from Talent 2.

[shrewd fractal]

So glad i pulled her damn

[noble pewter]

ulpi s2 activated is only 2.5k dmg , n u maybe didnt even activated for 1st storbit, which hit only 1.6k dmg, lemuen be doing 8.7k dmg at full charged wanted target

[drowsy heart]

Anyway, that's why for Physical damage it's generally better to have more damage per hit than having it spread out since Defense applies to each hit.
Arts on the other hand doesn't really care since RES is multiplicative anyway.

[shrewd fractal]

TIL

Arigato

[exotic grove]

erm wtf
my bandori members just died during fever

[cinder minnow]

In what circumstances

[drowsy heart]

Did you not give them any paracetamol?

[exotic grove]

they got hit by an ice cube and a sword guy while fever was active

[drowsy heart]

Sakiko on S3?

[exotic grove]

s2

[drowsy heart]

Life extension only on S3.

[exotic grove]

oh damn fr?
I never use s2 so I forgot

this stage so ass fr

[drowsy heart]

Yeah on S2 the Fever effect is just that she gets double strikes.

[exotic grove]

if I'm struggling this much on normal idk how I'm gonna do CM

[drowsy heart]

Guards and Defenders double DP cost, heh.

[exotic grove]

im cooked

[vivid rain]

god that map was sadistic

[exotic grove]

how am I gonna get a 38dp sakichan on field in time

[vivid rain]

the question is "why" not "how"

[exotic grove]

well what am I gonna do put myrtle there?

[vivid rain]

why are you planning to put saki chan on field

just bring other ops

[drowsy heart]

(SilverAsh S3 switch with Robot.)

[exotic grove]

she's the only one that can hit air aside from haruka and ray
and you know those two can't handle bats

[vivid rain]

right, bats

[drowsy heart]

I did.

Surfer too.

[vivid rain]

i used ela and ines for bats so idk tbh

[exotic grove]

myrtle ain't killin no bats

tila isn't in a band so she can't be used

[somber falcon]

just bring chetto

[vivid rain]

oh is this nicheknights

[exotic grove]

I would
IF I HAD HER

[somber falcon]

borrow then

[exotic grove]

[drowsy heart]

Oh Archetto can deal with the bats?

[vivid rain]

prob not solo

[somber falcon]

she's a marksman

[vivid rain]

unless you're willing to micro a bit for her

[exotic grove]

I challenge u to find someone with cheeto on support 🥹
nvm I found one

[somber falcon]

just leave her on s1 and she'll probably be fine

[drowsy heart]

I have a friend who does, pfft.

[shrewd fractal]

Wait isnt the left side ground tiles

How can you deploy a sniper

[vivid rain]

you deploy middle and point to the left

[shrewd fractal]

Oh i'm dumb

[vivid rain]

as for the middle lane enemies just block them in red box and spawncamp

[exotic grove]

cheeto s1 cannot handle bats

[shrewd fractal]

I actually did spend 80dp to deploy both thorns and saki

[vivid rain]

yes which is why i said you need to micro cheeto

bats have a fuck ton of hp

[exotic grove]

tf does micro cheeto mean
turn her into an ant

[shrewd fractal]

Micromanage probably

[exotic grove]

on s2?

[vivid rain]

bats have like 8k hp and 200 def

so you run s2/s3

personally i think s3 is better

as long as you remember about the bats

[exotic grove]

she still can't deal with em on s3

the real issue besides that is that the moose doesn't die in time because I have jack for damage
so everyone gets shoved down and I can't block the red box

[tall sierra]

it hard to stack up laterano until u get exu alt

or exe alt

[hasty minnow]

you still have other options to stack it though

[tall sierra]

the most problematic is the shop sometime doesnt give what u want

[shrewd fractal]

I didnt even block the middle lane, i just let exu2 solo exploding mobs + moose

And put device on top of her to stop her getting pushed

[exotic grove]

that's awesome but exia isn't in a band so she can't be used
and she's not an idol either

[tall sierra]

the scariest i face was a army of infected shieldman with hammer boi

[shrewd fractal]

Oh you're doing nicheknights....rip then

Alive until sunset playable when

[tall sierra]

and also waves of arts drone

[drowsy heart]

I managed to prevent any Avalanches from happening in a later clear which is nice. Stayed at a nice 13/15 till the end.

[hasty minnow]

Sacrifice their soul

[shrewd fractal]

Idk why so many guides put ulpipi in the middle lane but i couldnt get it to work on both s2 and s3

[hasty minnow]

well upli s3 doesn't kill him and he can redep himself. makes sense

[drowsy heart]

True, just say no to the moose.

[shrewd fractal]

When i tried he almost died lol

From the exploding mooks probably

[tall sierra]

sargon insane dps dealer early is minimalist right?

[signal vector]

Can minimalist even DPS? Cause I dont really think he can lol

[hasty minnow]

i wouldn't say insane

[exotic grove]

I can clear it with 2 leaks on normal

[signal vector]

Leak = 🤫

[exotic grove]

1 leak

[hasty minnow]

1 leak = 3 leak

[exotic grove]

the problem is that last moose

[elder flume]

I did try S1M3 Archetto before and nah

AoE is ideal for bats

Marcille was one of the better ones i could find

[drowsy heart]

Who do you have in bandknights actually?

[exotic grove]

ave mujica + anyone featured in the band girls killkiss cover + idol operators
and myrtle
it's really musicknights more than bandknights specifically
I've had the most success with this team but I'm still getting my ass kicked by at least one moose

[plucky flint]

ah yes I'm gonna shill this +4% ATK

[gentle cove]

isnt vigna a signer/guitarist

[exotic grove]

yeah but vigna wasn't contributing to the team so I had her go on hiatus

[gentle cove]

fair

[exotic grove]

I do have her e2 40 mod1 m3 though
not that it'll help much

[spark idol]

Do these guys count?

[drowsy heart]

Maybe Skadi on S2?

If its the moose specifically.

[exotic grove]

they count but they're male so they're all e0lv1

[exotic grove]

what would skalter help me do?
never used her before so idk what she does

[drowsy heart]

I mean normal Skadi.

[umbral kite]

inspiration

[spark idol]

Lol. Wind Chimes might not help much, but Underflow can do some work.

[exotic grove]

[prisma ledge]

There's a lot of ways to stack tho

[exotic grove]

isharmla almost works

maybe if I retreat blaze when haruka s3 is up for the second time I'll have enough time to kill the ice cube

[drowsy heart]

Huh, the Corrupting Heart works? I was just thinking Skadi as a statstick.

[exotic grove]

yea the issue is the push not the actual damage
if it didn't push I wouldn't care if it took twice as long to kill the moose

[spark idol]

Wind Chimes can stun, lol. /s

[exotic grove]

that was so ass
idk if I can even replicate it
ok without isharmla the suicide bombers squad wipe everyone

[azure roost]

so gaming

[spark idol]

Turns out crushers really are good at tanking arts damage

[glass monolith]

I was telling that since Quartz release

[cyan lotus]

its not very consistent

qwq

[weak gazelle]

not too bad
should have been using canta over ines but whatever

[glass monolith]

S-2 exposed my weakness - I don't know how to deal with snowballing

Oh god, being pushed by Deep count as redeploy and cause DP inflation for future redeploy

[plucky flint]

ulpi S3 also counts as redeploy if that matters

[glass monolith]

I will never financally recover and it is deer to blame

or was it avalanche push

Basically somewhy my chain caster cost 63 and i am not happy

[flint quartz]

they supposed to let us choose 20 of ours ops in protocol

useless ops flooded the pools so ass

[glass monolith]

Bro we can choose Crownslayer and she don't have any useful faction attached

[somber falcon]

"supposed to"
says who?

[dapper hedge]

Never been a thing

[elder flume]

Chen can stunlock 1 golem

[errant herald]

At chapter 14

What the hell

[left night]

Fuck this map

(No idea how to do cm because upipi can't hold midlane with buffed sniper stat)

Can I fking clone sakiko because I need both her s2 and s3 lol

[alpine nebula]

can i replace vulpi and uika for tragodia and surfer for general content?

[somber falcon]

you can take out half of that team and they'll still clear gen content anyway

[sly drift]

Why would you want surfer over Vulpi

[elder flume]

If you run blocker mid lane then you want silence or shift

Just so deer never moves blocker

Or ig the Wis summon works the same there

Just that Ulpi taking extra 5k + stun if Wis doesnt stun

[pearl compass]

Ez map.

[heavy mason]

In OS S 5, I’m getting my butt kicked in the left section. I’m deploying Sash to deal with it but the bats are too tanky

[umbral kite]

do you have anyone else in your account?

also put sash2 and pram2 on s3

[heavy mason]

No that’s all I got. I rent Wisadel tho (sue me I don’t have time to keep trying)

And now I fixed it

[umbral kite]

i guess for left lane you could try kroos during both sash's skill downtimes? you wis sash2 and pram2 so the other 3 lanes are already solved

[heavy mason]

Problem is she keeps dying due to avalanche

[umbral kite]

get the avalanche shield

3rd device

[heavy mason]

Then how do I protect the right side?

[umbral kite]

sash2

[heavy mason]

What does he do?

[umbral kite]

wis/pram2 will take care of the golem

[umbral kite]

kill the snipers, help sash1 with the bats and generate dp

[heavy mason]

And I have him face the golem?

[umbral kite]

face down

[heavy mason]

Gotcha. Appreciate the help! I’ll try the strat and see how it goes!

Should I have Walter face up?

[umbral kite]

here

[umbral kite]

for walter its right here iirc

and pram is above her and directly above pram is the shield

[left night]

Again fk this stage

[heavy mason]

Thanks for the help! I appreciate it

[left night]

Thanks god haruka existed, I have no idea how to hold 2 of the lane without her

She's not a medic, but the entire hospital

[wary wing]

has anyone managed to beat the second boss in solo dire mode SP?

[weak gazelle]

man... when the intended way is brute force :icant:

[wary wing]

arkhy

did you try SP?

did you clear dire mode?

[weak gazelle]

not yet

maybe next week i play it

[umbral kite]

i've barely touched sp

[wary wing]

the second boss is giga bullshit

twice have I reached it

twice I have been mogged

[weak gazelle]

try ask april

[wary wing]

@latent halo how to kill second boss in SP solo Dire Mode

[latent halo]

which

[latent halo]

try get silence

and give her SP equipment

[wary wing]

the boss you get if you have 200+ stacks

[latent halo]

theres 3

gun

flute

and gear

[wary wing]

I have had bad luck
and got gun twice

bro gets those links

[latent halo]

silence with sp equipment

gun will chase the operator that have highest defense

[latent halo]

you need element dmg , its a must

[wary wing]

did you manage to kill it in solo?

also what's the difference between standard, hard and dire(

[latent halo]

yea

stack yan / kjerag

1 of the car have high dr

you need blaze

[latent halo]

more stats

[prisma ledge]

Theees babysitting in Standard.
Perilous is the new Standard without the handholding.
More Alliances in Perilous and Dire.
Dire is just more numbers in stats AND harder enemies to deal with.

[prisma ledge]

I should try it out

[spark geyser]

#stronghold-hall message i this one ?

[mighty mantle]

That’s not gun that’s pipe, gun is way more annoying

[odd forge]

Just using wisdel

[nocturne niche]

should I be pulling anyone now or saving

[ivory plank]

WHAT? HOW

how the heck did you beat dire without ANY faction buffs

[nocturne niche]

[craggy heron]

saving, but next time you might wanna ask this in #help
make sure to import your krooster account so ppl know what u already have to recommend

[nocturne niche]

oh wait I'm in the wrong channel my bad

[craggy heron]

its okay

[odd forge]

Wisdel is op

[ivory plank]

no no no

wisadel is NOWHERE near enough to clear dire

[odd forge]

This guy

[ivory plank]

your teammate mustve carried

[odd forge]

Yeah

[exotic grove]

bro really said "hold my wis"

[honest jacinth]

Is the 2 coins on foresight every turn or just when you get the new stacks?

[ivory plank]

2 coins every time you get 10 foresight stacks

[lunar crane]

can say that , once i got no alliance stack whatsoever and just playing arknights , spamming high tier ops , and still got carried

[honest jacinth]

What is your strat for early game scaling? I feel like the most important ones are aid/agile

[ivory plank]

early game i honestly just do whatever works for the defense

[odd forge]

He had like 200 stacks of kjera

[ivory plank]

you honestly cant build alliance stacks that well early on so its pointless to try to focus on that

[lunar crane]

permafrost

[ivory plank]

and often you might overcommit to a single faction and get screwed later on

[odd forge]

Yeah with typhon

[cosmic quest]

Does anyone know of any clears for ex-6 cm of the current event, not using SAlter, using only vanguards and/or specialists?

[ivory plank]

once i reach tier4-5 shop then i start farming foresight and whichever faction im going to work with

[lunar crane]

the most stack i got on kjerag are 100ish and that still couldn't get the permafrost with gnosis and pramalt

[ivory plank]

from there its just a matter of skill and luck

[ivory plank]

r u using s2 gnosis and s3 pramalt

[lunar crane]

yeah

maybe should use gnosis s3

[ivory plank]

nah use s2 it has higher cold uptime

especially with how many enemies spawn later on

[lunar crane]

huh is that so , ig the rng are not that good for me

[ivory plank]

if u wanna perma freeze u need 2 constant cold appliers so two gnosis would work

or using some artifacts or whatever, theres alot of options

[odd forge]

Demn it's so annoying those crossbow hoodie

[lunar crane]

i mean i got kjerag at that time , but i swapped her for dps

[honest jacinth]

are stacks and such important over just having good units?

[glass monolith]

Number must go up

[honest jacinth]

yeah stacks are more fun but 6 yan teams are... not feeling very good lol
even when I had 120 stacks

[exotic grove]

yan not feeling good? who were you using lol

[fossil sphinx]

yan should end up with like 500 tbh

if you're playing yu properly

[fossil sphinx]

ascalon

[delicate rampart]

Can someone help me beat the 8 stages on the event in challenge mode

I was able to beat the 1st 3 only

On challenge mode

The one with silverash alter and pramanix alter that event

[drowsy heart]

Send your roster, preferably through krooster.

[delicate rampart]

I have only my squad leveled up my other characters are lvl 1 im a 30 day player

[umbral kite]

then send your squad

[umbral kite]

seems doable

[delicate rampart]

If you can help me on voice chat that would be nice

Idk how to beat 4 to 8 on challenge mode

Tried numerous times

[umbral kite]

oh its challenge mode?

[delicate rampart]

Yes

[umbral kite]

i thought you were struggling to beat normal mode

[drowsy heart]

Doesn't Wis'adel solo OS-EX-6 CM?

[umbral kite]

oops

[delicate rampart]

No normal is easy

Im at penguin logistics vc if anyone can help

[drowsy heart]

Something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dT2AaB-HFc

A bunch of others like Hoshiguma the Breacher or Mlynar can also solo if you want to borrow.

I'd also recommend checking https://en.arkrec.com/operation/OS-EX-4%2B熟食而止 for clears to see if you can adapt them somehow.
Or YouTube, there are a lot of EX clears available to search for.

[fringe solstice]

oh that position works for 2 s3. The strat I used was placing her in the middle facing left needed 3 s3

[scarlet fulcrum]

After 3 is 4 surely, not 6

[left egret]

I have two questions about manfred. He is somewhat silenceble as to the game description. What exactly silence do to him? Don't allow to use him global atacks or what? And second is more general question. For tragodia s2 cat to invoke nervous imparimant on boss enemy, he need to be at least mod lvl2 e2 lvl 88 and max trust? Because mine is only around 60 trust, but e2 lvl 90 mod lvl 2, s2m3 and don't charge the nervous imparimant circle to the full

[half reef]

HOW TF are we supposed to deal with the Steamknight secretboss in SP

bro spawns Steamknights as if they were dog mobs

[fossil sphinx]

roll higher

kjerag freeze also would help

[limpid ore]

when you check enemies info, the silenceable part is marked with black X

if nothIng then nothing

-# except for select couple

[drowsy heart]

Alistair's mapwipe can be silenced for some reason yeah, very funny.

[hollow bronze]

How have people been making AH synergy work in the new mode?

[plucky flint]

into the #stronghold-hall you go

[hollow bronze]

Ty~

[indigo helm]

is there a low end guide for os-ex-8

i'm getting kind of tired of this stage

using those dudes don't know what to do

too many enemies, too little slots, I seriously don't know what to do

for some fucking reason those fucking goats are just IMMUNE to tragodias cats too

https://tenor.com/qeQ7I8BMQ6I.gif

[gentle cove]

it's moose, immune to lure, yes

[indigo helm]

idfc what it is

they're annoying

[fringe solstice]

I checked the wiki and it says he is immune to silence so idk what you are talking about and yes trag needs a certain amount of attack( I forget the number) to invoke NI on boss. I think it is lv82 mod 3(cheapest) or lv 88 mod 2

[indigo helm]

has anyone made a guide yet or not

[gentle cove]

tho im pretty sure kyostinv did it with lesser strong units as you got
but still only 6*s

[hollow laurel]

For some reason I can’t figure out the new game mode for the life of me (my dumbass already forgot the name)

The basic mechanics I pretty much got down. I played the previous version of the event so it was not difficult to reacquaint myself

[indigo helm]

every time I

fucking solve a problem

another 30 appears bro

this is getting so annoying

[gentle cove]

#stronghold-hall has a good amount of people to help if you need, with a guide or two

[gentle cove]

watch kyostinv

[hollow laurel]

Ooh, thanks. Did not realize Stronghold Protocol had a specific channel

[drowsy heart]

Hoshiguma on S2 can take care of the entire left side with just a little support if you place her in front of the blue box, and right side just use Exusiai to burst down the moose, it really can't be that hard with your team.

I am a bit curious why only Kal'tsit has a Module though.

[indigo helm]

because...I'm not rich?

not sure what to do here man

[drowsy heart]

Almost your entire team is E2s, you can definitely spare a few Modules.

[indigo helm]

i havent cleared most of story/events I don't wnna waste sanity when I could clear this

[rustic eagle]

Wisadel + someone who can clear like two waves of top wave bats clear this

And I guess some fodder to cause avalanches but you have hoshi anyway

You can just let her handle everything pretty easily

Actually radio was tryna do a Wis hoshi solo clear you could replicate that

[indigo helm]

i don't wanna to deal with the cubes that spawns

cuz that means the run is over

p much

[rustic eagle]

Wis can destroy them

At least how I did it was let the left ones rip

And prevent the right ones using the device once

But using hoshi you can probably handle both sides

Legit just have someone deal with the waves on top right twice and Wis can do most the stage

If not all if you proc enough avalanches lol

[indigo helm]

i'm proccing avalanches literally all the time

I literally don't know what to do dawg

when I deal with the bats the problem is the left lane with 500 trash enemies and the boss stupid aoe

and since I don't have 999 healing units I can't do shit because my medics end up dying

since I can't destroy those fucking balls

can't bait either because no slots

any less and enemies leak

[rustic eagle]

Have Wis on right facing left side

She mows the trash and has her summons to survive

As I said you just need to clear the wave from right sides couple times so that she doesn’t get avalanched herself using the device

You don’t even need medics doing all this

Even if you do have haruka which probably does a shitton actually

[indigo helm]

....like this?????? i don't know what you want me to do

[rustic eagle]

No

Bad placement she can’t get camo there

[indigo helm]

yeah then idk!

[rustic eagle]

Place her so her summons camo her

Which is one tile below one tile to the right to where you placed her for example

I can make a video using my shitty lineup tomorrow for the entire clear atp

[indigo helm]

i'm not sure what would that even accomplish

if anyone gets into that range its p much over

[rustic eagle]

?

What range

[indigo helm]

isnt the whole point

NOT having avalanches triggering

ever

[rustic eagle]

The point is beating the stage

That’s it

And I think you can easily afford having left side proc with Wis there

[indigo helm]

the orbs are a problem, the fuckass "kill you" attack of the boss is a problem

[rustic eagle]

Orbs? The snowballs?

[indigo helm]

not sure how this solve any of that

[rustic eagle]

She won’t target Wis if she’s camod

[indigo helm]

this is the comp i'm trying to do

closest I got is killing the boss then the fuckass enemies of doom becomes a problem

sakiko can clear that lone

[rustic eagle]

Wis still doesn’t get camo there

[indigo helm]

ines can clear that lane (if not just replace with specter)

[rustic eagle]

^

Tbf if you roster is stacked enough to not rely on Wis then valid not to ofc

But since you asked low end

[indigo helm]

uuuuurgh

[prisma ledge]

Move ur Wisadel to the right by one tile

[indigo helm]

fucking

done

that wisadel placement is the weirdest thing ever but I did it

[prisma ledge]

And read Wisadel's 2nd talent description

[indigo helm]

tbh camouflage simply doesn't matter

when the boss has aoe

g fucking gs though

[prisma ledge]

Maybe place better or smthing

[indigo helm]

lmao im not doing that

[prisma ledge]

Its actually not that bad at all

[indigo helm]

theres the s stages too but eeergh

i don't wanna do it

[prisma ledge]

Kinda hurts Agents a lil tho

:(

[indigo helm]

you're allowed to think that but just getting this done normally was a pain in the ass.

[drowsy heart]

CM for example.

[indigo helm]

i don't even wanna imagine what would like if my operators can't hit for shit

[indigo helm]

how do you deal with the block dudes on the left

[noble pewter]

what is ur roster anyways

[indigo helm]

cuz god knows they're coming

[drowsy heart]

Once the golems on the left side activate just use the Avalanche triggers to deal like 5000 True Damage to them, can do it twice and Hoshiguma should deal with the rest of their HP.

[noble pewter]

oh i see nvm thats pretty strong already

[indigo helm]

did show above

the stage is clear

tips were useful can't believe that wisadel placement was goodlol

i was trying to get her to deal with the bats+boss

[drowsy heart]

In this particular run it fell apart towards the end and the right side also woke up, but you can stall with just a bunch of E1 Defenders until Lemuen is back.

[indigo helm]

but just getting the golems and letting her solo solved it

[indigo helm]

dont think they'd survive until lemuens long ass sp

recoevery

😭

[drowsy heart]

I mean, I managed with it.

I swear though, please get Modules for your Operators.

[noble pewter]

ya, if u want take it to the extreme, just use 2 unit of ur whole roster is enuf to clear whole stage

[drowsy heart]

It's a significant damage increase.

[noble pewter]

the camo protect her from ice orb explosion

[drowsy heart]

Or healing increase, or whatever.

[indigo helm]

dudeI'm trying but

i'm

suffering

from success

i get meta ops p much all the time

I CAN'T E2 ALL OF THEM

i still gotta go through my insane backlist+waifulist

logos, leizi, now hoshiguma

...pramanix and silverash alter too

goldenglow

[drowsy heart]

Module priorities are like for Hoshiguma, Lemuen, Haruka (Lv. 1), Tragodia, Sakiko, and everyone else honestly even if Exusiai's is a pain to unlock (haven't done that one either yet).

[indigo helm]

oh yeah sakiko too

hhhh

[indigo helm]

Exusai is chapter 15 its gonna be a while until I'm there

lmao

[drowsy heart]

Also, as a tip, the Obsidian Festival stages (Heart of Surging Flame) all cost 0 Sanity to run and count towards Module missions.

[fringe solstice]

personally I would work on modules but I think it is doable with your squad

[indigo helm]

the stage is already donde

[drowsy heart]

One of the Guide Ahead EX Stages I think.

[indigo helm]

severely doubt I'm gonna

try cm

[rustic eagle]

Do it

[hasty minnow]

try it

[indigo helm]

aaaah

i'd rather go throuhg chinese water torture

plus I got the special stages to do too

[rustic eagle]

I still didn’t do S5 cm from yesterday

Part of me wants to do it without buying contrail

[drowsy heart]

The beginning pressure in OS-S-5 is pretty high yeah.

[rustic eagle]

The issue is it doesn’t let me play degen

[hasty minnow]

doing niche?

[rustic eagle]

So I have one less unit essentially

[drowsy heart]

Just don't use any Guards.

SilverAsh's S3 good for DP switch.

[noble pewter]

just borrow pram alter s2 put her top right with a healer, use some 3 star defender with haruka s2 top left n afk

[rustic eagle]

Yes my nicheknights is "playing degen sash and pram and a bunch of dogshit units"

[hasty minnow]

Just spam vangaurds or something

[rustic eagle]

Yea I’m on it

[undone herald]

wow OS-S-5 is rough

[drowsy heart]

Who were you using for the archers?

[rustic eagle]

Issue is because of it I can’t run degen as I said

Sakiko

Oh not

The archers sash and lapp

[drowsy heart]

If you have an Agent Vanguard any of them can handle the archers solo. And give some DP.

[rustic eagle]

And took their aggro with random E0s

I don’t but the archers aren’t issue regardless

[drowsy heart]

(Even Snegurochka the 4* can do it at E1L40.)

[rustic eagle]

Hmmmm even in CM?

[drowsy heart]

Yep.

[rustic eagle]

I guess maybe that could help me deploy having sash face the golems

[drowsy heart]

(This particular run failed due to Exusiai not being healed, but Snegurochka does fine.)

[rustic eagle]

Maybe two sash S3s on them could be enough to finish him

[hasty minnow]

Isn't sakiko enough for the golem

[rustic eagle]

Nah she’s left

[drowsy heart]

Less pressure if you activate SilverAsh's S3 and put Snegurochka one tile to the right of where she currently is, then even if placed later she can kill the first archer (otherwise it is kinda tight without any damage buff).

[rustic eagle]

I misread when I mentioned earlier

[rustic eagle]

How do I buff her tho

[drowsy heart]

I mean with SilverAsh's Eye of the Blizzard.

[rustic eagle]

Ah that’s pointless then

[drowsy heart]

Do you need it early on?

[rustic eagle]

I need both on the golem

[drowsy heart]

Well then as long as you can heal two archers it doesn't matter either way, it was more if you only want one archer at a time.

[rustic eagle]

Or that’s what would make a difference

[rustic eagle]

I can just take their aggro with random units

Should be ok

[drowsy heart]

Yeah then Snegurochka solos fine as you can see in the image. Puzzle (5*) is also free from What the Firelight Casts event if you want an alternative.

[rustic eagle]

I see

I can have her as an alternative to buying contrail then which fits what I already did better

if I do have her I hope

ty 🙏

[drowsy heart]

Good luck anyhow.

[rustic eagle]

just double checking

Are you certain I ain’t leaking archers

[drowsy heart]

If she's E1L40 shouldn't happen, I can check again though.

[plucky flint]

@rustic eagle
micromanage is shit tho

[prisma ledge]

Damn

[rustic eagle]

Ooooooooo

Tysm

Wait u didn’t use chen did u

Actually I guess I can use degen if I’m borrowing trag

So she’s the degen equivalent

[noble pewter]

92 cost chen, he must have deployed or sth

[drowsy heart]

I keep forgetting that my order of deployment is different and let Exusiai die...

[rustic eagle]

To who

[noble pewter]

to archers most likely

cause he said order of deploy which implies aggro

which implies ranged atk dmg

[rustic eagle]

They target lowest def tho iirc

[drowsy heart]

Archers yeah, but it's because in my original run I only had one archer on-field at a time and not two, plus Haruka downtime.

[plucky flint]

I used Chen just to kill a deer and stall 2 arts guard

surely your degen will do the job better

[rustic eagle]

Probably can yes