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wtf lazyness in strategy
actually mutsumi is indeed not needed
for the last wave just need Umiri S2 to delay those mushrooms a bit so that Saki can activate skill later to cover everything
healed other side and she exploded

amazing
@weak gazelle ye this the squad plus haruka supp 
honedtl wtf is this
nyamu gaming
wtf highschool girls
quit and uninstall ak now!


wtff
ngl my first run
i tried to use s1
but didnt work so i go use s3 sakiko

its worked on nm doe
plan to finish event maps now
oh nice
and making some weird shit strat that works
@weak gazelle oh ye alt acc clear on s stage
ngl idk wtf is that bat side honestly
pip and chanka
only time i use lapp² s2

tippi usage 
ohh a cliff
shift them then nyahahaha
wtf its fenced (the pathing on right side) :icant:
ngl that bat side will not have problem if tippi is masteried
lmfao but ye still lvl 7
is still need to m6 tippi

Imagine doing 3 op but bringing 4 because what planning we yolo 
ohh right
i can 3 op it too :ya:
forgot its long ass wait map
Glad it worked out.
nah turn out i can 2 ops
why forgot my beloved lappy exists :icant:
well when fully aware solo exists
I'll need someone to replace Ulpi, normal Silverash and Sakiko for OS-S-5 CM. Need one for Lord-like, and one for replacing the Guard or Defender.
You can 1 op that
Cuz this CM is ridiculous to keep on.
Gladiia can handle bottom right guys
Alone
Can borrow wisadel for upper right and/or mid lane
i know but thats boring when it is well known how to do it
I did 1 op on my own
Admitted it is very easy to 1 op with hoshi2 so its already submitted in arkrec by CN players
E1 Contrail cant solve left ?
15s downtime moment
I'll try her cuz need Gladiia to cover Ulpipi later at top right side.
nvm. Found a good team.
Contrail temporarily delays them, then I summon Sakiko to cover more.
Man.. this map is just so haram it's unbelievable.
It has to be one of the most haram stage ever made so far.
Why're you not bringing lapp
All mid enemies are silenceable 
yup lappland silence on mid changes a lot
left and right lanes are just the usual lane issues, easiest is sakiko left lane and hold top right + ranged ground unit in bottom right
so pro
If you borrow pram alt she solves your mid and top right problem
I don't think pram alt is a 5* 
How to deal with cleanup squad leader? Especially multiple at once?
The ones with global range. Fire arrows. Fire a powerful arrow after some normal arrows.
Kazimierz enemy.
How do people manage to have this much of stacks?? Also any tips and tricks on Dire Simulation difficulty everyone
Reading

Ok I see, and text cut off after this, thanks
didn't think I'd beat OS-S-5 since I didn't have Ines, HoshiAlter, Ulpianus, and Kirin Yato. SilverAlter s2 and fast redeploys carried me so hard lmao
It's more like, the Laterano operators themselves are the ones stacking.
In other words, find the stackers for each faction.
SilverAlter S2 and fast redeploys is now my new go-to strat for this kind of stages
I have made it...
Lee/Lappland carried the cursed middle line
Ines with Thorns and Puzzle to hold left and right lines
+compensate Lee's dp consumption.
SA to deploy Thorns faster and keep Puzzle alive until Lumen is deployed
Shu to stall golems until Logos charges S3
It could have been easier if my roster was not Fraudknights with Lessing and Vigil
I take back what I've just said. This stage is still nowhere close to whatever the fk going on in Saint boss on MT-S-5
Anyway where the hell is S boss fight.
Dead before arrival
Yea it's really fun though. But difficulty is through the roof for me.
Through the fking sky actually
Also Plume for Lemuen marking.

Tactical nuke human missile
Meat shield but cannon ball
I hate that stage
in cn it qas
It made me think and I can't hold the unbearable weight of thinking
What is qas
*insert S2 propaganda*
I think I went through the first three phases on one S2 ammo count.
Maybe two, it's been a while.
Typo of 'was'.
But this event is easy don't you think.
Compared to previous big events that has S stages
I think even Pepe S stages is harder
Personally I found these the hardest in a while even with all the new operators.
You must be kidding me 
trying to clear os-s-5 cm but not sure who to pick for support and how to clear it 
Adventure That Cannot Wait For The Sun stages were just fun, I enjoyed the crystal mechanic a lot.
Sakiko should be able to take care of the left lane by herself I think, and any Defender (even E1L60 Gummy) can hold the right side with Haruka's help. Cantabile can deal with the archers so you just need someone in the middle lane. Could borrow a Hoshiguma on S2 maybe and put another damage dealer nearby (especially to deal with the two moose).
i guess, but the issue is that she costs 38 dp
wait how does haruka help right side
she doesnt have the range
borrow wis
If you place her one tile below the block at the top of the middle lane she can cover both the middle and one tile on the right side.
Does pramanix S2 even works on this stage. Girl just get reset everytime S2 activated lol
dw about the skills, i just got done clearing os-s-4 cm 
(This is what I did at least.)
cantabile doesnt kill them fast enough
not even during normal mode
My Surfer is E1L40 and she manages though.
I just did Sash2 right
Thorns left
Mon3tr Wisadel middle for a 4 ops clear
i had to deploy sakiko right after sash alter and cantabile when i was doing normal mode
I did Surfer > SilverAsh > Myrtle > Lemuen (DP switch with Confess-47) > (Haruka > Exusiai > Hoshiguma > Gummy).
If Sakiko is the highest DP (out of the Guards/Casters/Snipers) she should be able to be switched in as well I think.
if i drop those three whos gonna hold midlane 
Maybe remove Degenbrecher and Blaze? Can borrow a non-emnity Defender to hold middle.
Mudrock won't be affected by SilverAsh's S3 anyhow.
Wis and it's done
Wisadel+Mon3tr is enough to both handle middle and also kill all the ice cubes on the right
yeah i dont think i can run mudrock anyways
You can - I did xD
Sash2 s3 right side kill all archers
Thorns/Sakiko left
Wisadel Middle, Mon3tr middle
That’s a very simple 4 operator clear for CM mode
Mon3tr kill ice cube right side then clear middle when Wis cooldown then back to right side
Mon3tr multi tasking
You can run Sakiko left, Canta to kill snipers, Pram alt, Wisadel and Mon3tr mid
Pram alt will kill the first cube
Before the 2nd spawns you will have enough DP to deploy any defender - even Mudrock
Actually, does anyone know what happens if an avalanche triggers while Mon3tr is outside the area on S3?
No reason to run pram if Wis and Mon3tr are already in middle
She dodges it completely
Nice.
You can just put the avalanche protecting thing anyways
so theres no need to block mid?
Wisadel kill first wave then Mon3tr kill 2nd wave then Wisadel kills 3rd wave
There’s genuinely nothing to block
i cant seem to find the dp timing..
Nope
Use Sash alt to deploy Sakiko left
replace texas with sash2 facing dowj
use his s3 as soon as you can to get everyone you need on the field
you can activate it again later on to assist a lane thats struggling(if any of them are)
After deploying Sakiko you next deploy Pram alt mid(right side lane top spot) so she can delete both the first wave and the first golem
make sure she's on s3 too
After that is your op of choice to delete the second mid wave
Pram will again delete the 3rd and all that is left is the 2nd golem
mon3 should be able to take care of it
I had Muddy for the last golem. If deployed where Texas is on the screen the golem is in range of Pram alt/Wisadel
i just used pramalter for both the final wave and the isbit
(though degen cleared out a few bombers beforehand)
Mfw when Mon3tr kills all the golems, clears middle too, heals, cooks breakfast lunch and dinner and sends the kids home after school
wow this golem is tanky
wait pramalter couldnt kill it? 
nope..
oops i didnt mean to reply
lvl 60 but she is unmodded
i should probably fix that
s3m3?
You can just deploy Wis below Pram and she'll fix the problem
s3m1 now
ur really making it too complicated
Pram alter isn’t needed in this stage
Put the device where she is standing, Mon3tr below that facing right side
Wisadel right below her
You could place Cantabile S1 to kill snipers
Specs are goated here lol
Wisadel skill and just kill 1st wave
Mon3tr kill golem
Deactivate Wisadel skill if 1st wave dies and 1 bullet left
Mon3tr kills middle wave now while waiting for Wisadel CD
Now Mon3tr kill golem again and activate Wisadel skill
Stage cleared
I genuinely don’t know why ur forcing pram into this 
is one skill activation enough to kill everyone in a wave for wis
cliffheart is peak left lane support
I also cleared this stage with Horn on the left line
Or borrow Exusiai.

Better cycle.
Horn clear the bats solo?
I think left pointing right, she can't target the bats.
Horn strikes the middle lane, Ines then Thorns do bats
she targets the golem and then is late to kill the midlane guys
Usually I see it’s either Thorns or Sakiko on bat duty
i dont think i can let wis be right side mid
Puzzle/Cantabile S1 do the snipers and Shu stalls golems
Silver Ash S3 to work around dp cost
Wisadel right side is fine if Mon3tr kills the golems instead of Pram
Because Mon3tr blocks the golem outside of Wisadel range and kills it in seconds
where would i put wis for the golem to be out of range and also spawn camp midlane
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@unique grove both Exu and Wis works here
yeah pram just doesnt kill that golem
prob not enough investment
but i have no resources so 
Well you can try with Mon3tr instead just put Wisadel under her not on the other side
So she can help out if needed
On the left she doesn't have range
Wisadel clears first wave
Mon3tr clears 2nd wave
Wisadel clears 3rd wave
Mon3tr straight up kills the golems it won’t be an issue
(Also, not really a big thing, but you might as well bring a Robot along instead of Skadi for SilverAsh's DP switch.)
Wrong positioning
Move them all down 1 tile
Put the anti avalanche thing above them
Positioning looks like this
Exu and Wis do the same thing
Omg i was abt to ask how yo clear OS-S-5 thank u for this
What?
Lmao
One thing cool with sash2 is that Mon3tr also becomes an insta skill on deploy
So even if smth weird happens you can just retreat her
Oh wait no that doesn’t work after retreat
ignore that
well they won anyway 
I kinda love how Wis' S3 attacks spell "Wis'adel" on the blast radious
As long as Mon3tr isnt shifted to ground shes fine 
RM PTSD
Hoshi2 cant replicate Blaze2 since her red state is counted as barrier but does not stop damage
So shifted avalanche takes her blue 1 hp into 0 killing her before red state hp bar is calced
Sadge
I HATE OS-S-5
With the skin it does yeah
Chilchuck talent still saves if hes shifted away from original target
oh i think i got my OS S 4 strat down 
How many bats can ines s2 kill in os s 5 CM
Im trying to not use sa2
Im thiking off using ines and ela for left lane
Ela solo left no ?
Ines have more def than ela right?
prob
I could just use ulpi to bait archer kill rock and help with middle
Idk if ill make enough before ela die
Wait, how did she even get on a ground tile?
S3 to mid lane
if you let her S3 run out before shifted by avalanche when start point was on ground tile then she dies 
if she gets pushed while in s3 she gets redeployed on the ground
Not sure which of these lower prio characters should I raise next 
shifted by moose while in her s3
⬅️
There is nothing to feed to Ceobe in next half year? 
Wish Rosmontis could target air
Don't her S3 target drones blocked by take off operators 

Yeah. It does that. Take Corntrail.
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kalter s1 tech? 
Hm
actually would Pram2 being shifted reset S1 cd
double stacking
Not as fast as i wanted
Okay, so with many things to consider, we want to split the stage into 4 seperate parts and tackle each seperately with one or two operators each
That and figuring out a stable opening order will help a lot
4? Not three ?💀
Wow...
There’s the bats, the golems, the exploders and the archers
The best operator to borrow imo is silverash s3 by far
Ohh yeah!
If you put him on the right facing down he kills the archers while making dp
Or you can borrow ines and use her for the bats
I saw kyo borrowing sash2
The silverash s3 also helps weaker archers and such kill the bats consistently
But if I put sash2 there I will have problems with the left side
It depends who you have for the left
Any strong sniper with a fast cooldown on the left combined with silverash’s s3 borrowed skill kills the bats
Because the only one who can kill the bats is my lappland,GT and platinum...
If you have no one I would borrow and use ines on the left
But then
You’d need another solution for the archers
And then I will have problems with archers and DP
💔
Yeah
I used Ela on the left because she can deploy on the ground tile
And her mines help kill the golems too
Maybe try lappland with silverash’s ability borrowed then add an archer at some point
Once you have the archers and bats figured out the golem and center are next
The archers...
The golem needs either someone like logos or someone like Ulpianus to kill it
And the exploders in center
My archers usually died after 5-7 hits
I have logos! But I don't know where to put him
The archers are a pain that’s why I take silverash2 as my borrow
He kills the archers fast enough that Ela survives them and doesn’t need healing
Logos can go facing upper right corner to kill the golem I guess
Using S3?
Or S2 even
Hmmmmmm
Either one can probably kill them
Lappland Alter if you get her to a decent level her S3 is quite useful to help when everyone skills are down since she
Contributes to all 3 lanes
*4 lanes
The main issue is
The exploding dudes in center plus avalnches
Yeah I hate the middle
For the avalanches take the 3rd device and put it on the uppermost tile, the melee tiles will no longer get shifter which is huge
My LadyOni can't handle them and that deer
I personally put Ascalon facing up up top to snare and kill them and dodge rng the explosions
I’m not sure who to use for you because
LappAlter is also RNG heavy right
You seem to need lappland for the bats
Nah, she’s not too bad rngwise
Lappland silences the exploders and prevents their explosions
I think I really need to wait for another year
you can technically run Lapp2 S1 ig
Does the event will really rerun?
One thing to keep in mine here
Ohh for the archer?
Hoshi2 S2 mid
Saria S1 right
allows you to run Cliff Lapp left
Lappland alter s3 can’t silence the exploders because the avalanches shifting her resets her talent
use device at that point if needed
I think you could potentially do it but
It’s not really worth the time because
Challenge mode is maybe impossible
So you need to play next year anyways
I will try to use cliff
Huhuhuhhuu
The fact that my account was from 2021 and my roaster is like a few months old is laughable

worst case scenario borrow Exu2 to handle mid while Hoshi2 is frozen
Anyways, I will try my best to beat the normal stage first, I already spent more than 10 hours on just this one stage. If I can't get it tonight, then I will give up
My hoshi2 will die by the explosion

shes regular 7k hp + Exu2 6k hp surely
How do I beat OS10?avalanches are too much
OH
Good job reaching S5 with that roster though
Hehehe🥹

Thank you 😭
I was an idiot and I wanted to use the 2nd avalanche device on s5 cm so I failed a dozen times until I switched to the 3rd device and did it first try kekw
I spent hours on it every night I almost got teared up reading this HAHAHAHAHHA
The 3rd device is so op
OMG yeah😭
Ascalon behind it up top completely shits on the exploders
She dodges the explosion 50% of the time
So if there’s 2 of them it’s 75% odds she takes half the damage
Sometimes I watch the guide and did 100% different from the guide
And she snares them so they don’t run into your tank kek
I love ascalon
Such a dope unit, I have combined her with Pramanix Alter S2 and it’s insane
The aoe true damage plus slow is oppressive
On her last banner I tried to pull for her but got Logos instead so yeah for me its a winwin
That’s good, using your brain
🥹
Logos is obviously just as good so no harm no foul
Yeah without him I will definitely cry on some stage HAHAHAHHAHAHA
I think I prefer Pramanix to Logos which is pretty crazy
Understandable
Pramanix has stole his spot as AFK god right?
I mean her S2...is too dope
I have several events where I missed the medal for S CM stages
And I have every meta operator but Exusiai from the last 3 years oof

for s-5 her s3 is better
Are the event's stages all this hard? Or they are more that were harder
this event was pretty easy compared to most others
Babel’s fine challenge mode with the chains and the 12 assassins kicked my ass for a while
Ouch
the avalanche does 90% of the work most of the time 
Once I did it it was too late to medal
Avalanche is fun af
even if its a little too strong imo
Nothing like smushing an entire wave of monsters under the snow
They could’ve definitely nerfed how much damage it does to enemies
Yeah the feeling when you see your operators or enemies got pushed
i was too late to medal because i had no e2's 
It’s actually so effective at killing the mobs in s5 that their explosions stack up and ohko you
Maybe because it's a new system?
It’s pretty funny
wait no i think i did cause i remember doing bb-10
I didn’t realize at first but it can push ranged ops onto ground tiles and vice versa
and reactivate on deploy skills
I like this mechanic because it makes lappland alter and tragodia shine
Anyone with global range is a god here
year 6 really likes redeploying ops already on the field
pramalters my favorite 
Oh another question for my teachers, anyone can give out tips for Raidian? I definetly don't understand most of the guidelines in reddit and those long guides on youtube
Global range is comfy af
I have yet to play is6 so not sure
never use her in an actual team, only is6 or low op clears
I did every ending of is2/3/4/5 but I stooped playing until recently
I love her too but sometimes I accidentally cursed at her for not attacking who she should be attacking😭🙏 sorry lappalter
The problem with Raidian is her summons take operator slots outside of is6 with her is module
and in is only use her in is6 specifically because her buffs dont work anywhere else
Just like every summoner her summons compete with gods like Tragodia
Oh...I thought her S3 is strong
and are super expensive
it is
Her s3 in is6 is really good I heard but only because her summons cost no slots in that theme
the drawbacks usually arent worth it outside is though 
I see...thats what I thought when I usually bring her to my roaster before chapter 7
all 3 of her skills are good in is6
they all have a use somewhere
literal swiss army knife
I have never been able to clear any IS😭🙏
I can’t wait to Wang IS6
Which is the easiest for you guys?
Start with IS2 imo
is5
Hmmm
Is2 is easy af by today’s standards
you'll never want to go back to it after playing any other is
And its mechanics are easy to understand
the rest of the themes build off of is2's mechanics
Understandable
(except for like the plays i guess)
Once you get your first is2 clear you will understand what operators to recruit and what strategies to use much more clearly
I will learn IS system through IS2 and play IS5 ..I guess??
Yes
I will keep this in mind
play is5 to grind resources
Well the fact is...I have already tried to play IS2 but I believe my brain is not big enough for IS before🥹
But since you both say the same thing I will try my best to learn it again
Lappland Alter smashes is2 from my experience, every time she pops her s3 she clears the whole screen for the whole duration kekw
I used to use goldenglow and she’s so much weaker

Oh, the starting comp, I use, um, let me go log in and see what comps I use
it depends on who you wanna statt with
I hope I am not bothering you😭
It’s been a while since I played it, years
its fine 
Except a few runs with lappland alter
So I think I would pick something from the support unit
also for help from more dedicated is players you can go to #is-station and they'll usually have a guide you can follow
the pins there have some guides too
Ohhh
rosmontis is a great pick for is2
Ok this is the freshest info I never got my hands on before
HAHAHAHAHHA
I will try to steal her
I have all the medals for slow and steady wins the race, sniper, caster and defender
I will look at them tomorrow its already 2AM here
make sure the person you borrow from has her is mod
without it she's mid
And I take hope +2 bonus always
go to sleep 
Our LapQueen lookin majestic
Spot is a fantastic starter
I will keep that in mind
He can block 3 and heal which are both essential early on
i like cardigan more honestly 
Both are great, I prefer healing others to just herself
But you want a healing defender and your best caster with a utility sniper (or kroos if high difficulty or low hope)
I like spot because he looks sleepy

So I want to abuse him
That’s my starting comp anyways
Thanks for sharing🙏
you what 
ight amma head to bed HAHAHAHHAAHHA
Okie, see you
my starting comp is usually cardigan ros steward(ros' is mod gives him a fridge in his range)
gn 
Thanks everyone!
Rosmontis is a great starter too yeah

In is5 I use tin man iirc in my opener love that lil dude

His little tin toys are so useful
Oops
is there a way not to leak a spy in the bottom right box in 12-19 adverse?
read enemy list
how do i block something with weight 5 :(
Weight is their resist to push/pull, not how much block you need 
weight doesnt mean block count
ah then why cant i block the spy?
Each single one?
there is more than 1?
Nothing stops game from sending more
what are you blocking them with?
ulp
they're probably exceeding his block count, try putting someone that can block behind him
if you cant then find another place to block more of them
Also i forgot 12-19 layout, isn't it one where some camp on "can't deploy" tiles?
They probably have inventory of me playing rpg under their gear (copy of each book, silver plate, 2 chairs...) 
ye i threw down wis and sasalter then killed them with ascalon and hoedere. i missed that there was a leader in the bottom right
time for 12-20
I hate chapter 12 DP limit gimmick
its a chapter that really loves strategist-type vanguards at least 
Ok using Blacknight S2 to sleep civilians is peak gaming 
i simply hate spys
i hate being limited from deploying fun costly stuff
what is the general idea of os-s-5
my marksmen don’t have enough damage for the birds and they die anyways to the global snipers
Global snipers target lowest DEF (didn't start S stages, auto assume it is Break The Ice ones, we have Near Light global snipers but i doubt HG hate us that much)
yeah I see that
Oh hey, now we have this Crusher archetype
Time to do a little trolling
Os-s-4 
I need a viable strategy
I dont even know how I’ll get to killing the global snipers since they are inaccessible by ground units
if I borrow ines for the bats nothing in my loadout has the healing to sustain through the snipers
Just s-4 or cm? For normal Wis and Necrass they can hold the bottom lane once you clear the initial out-of-avalanche mobs. Mid lane was fine with just Sakiko and Ines
Snipers attack the lowest Def, so that will most likely be your healers or casters. Cantabile of e1 lvl 50 can deal with snipers from the top right lane facing down
I uh
Dont have ines, wis, or necrass
Uhm, show your roster then. That map is funny cause cm is easier to handle than normal btw
Oh agent in that spot
that is
Very helpful tyvm
I didn’t even think of that
another e1 lv50 canta enjoyer? 
That was the most I could level her up with what I had
I gave the precise level cause I know that works
Anything higher should work even better
So uh
.
i just keep her and surfer at that level always 
You can put Sakiko, Wataba and Umiri mid lane and they should handle it.
Młynar for bot lane with hoshi should be enough
You can safely trigger the first avalanche north and it won't do much - you don't want any more of them tho
Hm
Saki s3, wakaba s2(?), umiri s2(?)
That is what I usually have on them
Do i place hoshi and mlynar left or right side of the bottom lane
If Młynar can survive untill his skill then place him on bot lane directly - if not place him mid and facing down
Clear a way to place hoshi alt
Can use lapp alter to help
Do the mushrooms stand up and leave at the end?
Yep
I guess ill just surtr it or smth
Iirc they leave through the mid lane tho
Oh
They 100% leave through mid on cm, so I think they also do on normal
For CM mode you just make a beeline baiter->healing defender->lord(sakiko in your case)-> anything that does some damage really->staller and they clear the map
Hmm
I dont kill the bottom lane guys fast enough
Snowball throwers also somewhat of an issue
If you can prevent them from reaching top it's fine, after the initial avalanche you can place a healer
have someone bait them on the leftmost tile
or matterhorn/modless aurora
matterhorn needs sash2 on the field though
I mean a leveled up Gummy would probably be enough for that job
ok but aurora is cooler 
literally
E1L40 should also work (since that's what my Surfer managed with and I think they have about the same stats).
Went unga bunga
And just borrowed tragodia
If it works it works
now have fun with s-5 
With that roster s-5 will be breeze
I mean, Młynar, SA2, Sakiko and Mon3tr...
Can also probably Surtr the golems
Just did cm for s-4
Uhh
Is s-5 hard?
most of the enemies are trash but its the fact its a spam map and a rush map
Ok what in the nine hells is this stage bruh
I cant kill the bats without my krooster getting sniped
Well, now you know
and even then she would explode to the bombers
Wtf 😭 there are bombers too?
ines agents and contrail do wonders on the left
saki + sash s3 should be able to handle the left lane completely though
Should I borrow Ines?
You don't need Ines if you have SA2
the guys from gnosis event that explode when they die
Just force Saki into the left lane with his s3
ulp solos middle if gladia placed on the right
Oh i thought you meant bombtails
Ive no clue what the gnosis is
saki into middle is also just great
frd + sa 2 can work as well for left I assume
why are there no gnosis gifs 
How should I deal with the snipers
SA2
S3?
Face him down and from what I've seen he just deals with them
Its funny how agents are expected for left side
So start sash right side, then place saki left, then unga bunga hold middle best I can?
Mid lane is either Pram alt + Wis or Mon3tr + Wis
how much worse can it get for CM
Tried Cliff Lapp Platinum for one of my attempts
Still close to leaking 
Ok so borrow wis, got it
Guard and defender costs doubled
right side facing down
40 dp cost saki
Oh wtf
Ok for middle lane, do I just have to block right at spawnpoint to avoid avalanches?
Imma bring the avalanche prevention thing
bring the third device
Just be sure to use Wis skill AFTER the avalanche
second one is stinky
Cause it will cancel it otherwise
And you'll get the "aint no way they did that" moment
This is impossible bruh
Ice cube golems in top right…
After first few snipers, sash2 skill runs out and they just walk…
Man im such a bad player idk what to even do
mon3tr 
have someone else cover for him while he's offskill
tequila could probably do it
or lappy
S3?
Won't Hoshi alter be able to deal with the golems?
Then who do I use middle
Oh wait wis
Wis can clear mid, you don't need a groud op there
most of what i mention actually is afk stuff kek
funny afk mode unga bunga gooooooooo
haven't tried but I wonder if mudrock handles them as well or if she slowly gets overwhelemed
Mudrock can handle 2 golems for an extended period of time
she could probably stall long enough for someone else to come in and take care of it
Or 1 till the end of the world
But she will never kill them so you want someone to help her anyway xD
curora + healer also walls them to end of world well until your medic dies from explosion/avalanche

just get shu or smth 
Shu dies from 2 golems 
use shu to heal cuora 
I'd rather just kill one golem easy and then it's solved
its aoe so they die right
It's splash yea
Thats why I loved to have Muddy handle them cause no healer needed. Can add Reed alt so they die faster
Lapp Kroos Robin almost takes care of left ig
Wonder if Catapult is just better due to splash
Ugh 3 ops for that is kind of a waste and an extra avalanche probably
Oki i did it
CM is cooking me though, i think i need krooster for left side start
Ye i dont really have much options for low level squads and idt people would raise Sneg hm
people should raise cliffheart instead 
she can hold out on left lane(with sash2's s3) long enough to deploy whatever lord you're using
Just do SA2 s3 and place Sakiko left instant. She WILL hold it
she's in kernel location right now 
or whatever its called
Imagine
Low end runs Rope mid lane
More consistent than E2ing Lapp or having Jaye raised
But kina fails for me cuz mine is M6 
Cliff left
Rope mid
Gladiia right
Truly the puller era
No dp though…?
Not enough
Bat straight up leaks before Im even at 30 dp out of 40 needed for saki
the sa s3 exchange highest cost dp with lowest cost
so u bring 3 dp robot to switch sakiko
Oh
It is swapping with my pram i think
even if late deploy the sa2 s3 buff her dmg with support atk

which is enuf to kill bats usually
Ye
it pains me to say this but e1 pram isnt gonna do much here 
She doesn't even need dmg buff, she will tear them apart anyway
S2 then?
For the groups of bats
Well, I thought I had s3 for my CM clear but it turned out to be s2 so yea - it works xD
silly strange strat here
ines contrail deals with left with nothing else gladia deals with right
and then bullshit go for middle with ulp
podenco silence is clutch
jaye and lapp also are nice to have here
Ohh i need to abandon surtr too
surtr actually doesn't seem great here outside of golems i mean if you have to pick a borrow anyway
since every lane is a long rush
also you can lower op it even further for the left and golems but i find the timings very hard
seeing purestream handle middle and cuora healing is wild
contrail timings are critical
but can be eased with a lot of extra stuff
goes also to show those snipers are just paper but its annoying due to there range and how many there are
Can someone help me beat the challenge mode of the event stages the one with 8 levels
I was able to do only the 1st 3
8 levels are probably ext
screenshot squad and level
handles them until the entire rest of the map is gone but will eventually die after that

hello, dumb question but can i put rocks from thoses towers on the blocked cases or it's purely just for damage ?
just dmg
Purely damage, also enemy would break them anyway if that caused path toward blue box be completely blocked off
what is the left pillar doing then 😭
Making them all go right if you drop it down for more convinient chokepointing if you drop it down
is that just to kill my ranged unit or to be decoration ? 
pillar is 2 tile range 
..oh
But yes you can kill your sniper as bonus
well guess ima need 3 laneholders for that stage
you dont but you could
I dont recall if pillar leaves trash on ranged tiles - You can retreat it if it blocks you from doing stuff
actually yeah i dont need one for top lane, so only 2
yeah kinda easy map so far idk why that one's named hard
pillar dont leave the debri on ranged yeah
Well because people can access it from chapter 3 and uh... How many stupid golem things it has? 3-4?
ah thoses could be a problem now
This is chapter 9?
Pillars is chapter 9 gimmick
yeah that's what i thought to do, just put everyone down there 
but wasnt sure if you could block unplaceable at first lol
Just leave the pillars alone ig
Also for some reason sash2’s storm attacks the pillars but doesnt do anything to them
So i have guys attacking him while he keeps trying to knock it down lol
-# and for some reason he cant attack enemies he is blocking during s3 if he is facing away from them
What silence inflicting operators do we have except jaye, lapland and ch3n if there are any?
Texas alter S1, Podenco S2, Snowsant against [Infected], some of Nian skills silences i think
Podenco s2 is silence? Wow, I already liked it because of the dot and now it is even better. I guess its either en really can't read or it's not written
https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Silence_(debuff) I always check this cba to memorize everything
This article is about the debuff. For other similar uses, see Silence (disambiguation).
Silence is a debuff in Arknights.
Podenco does a lot of work in ch9 for 4-stars.
Also note that you can manually remove pillar debris.
And if pillars feel awkward to use... it's not just you.
Jaye my saviour against the spiders.
Lapp Nian silence applies after damage
I silence enemies by killing them 
Just be me and always kill enemy during e1 Lapp silence downtime of 0.25 or whatever
Man I always forget that this game have really good wiki
I think the cn version is prts.wiki but Idk chinese so it is harder to navigate
A bit yeah, but it is useful to double check things since they often add more niche interactions/mechanics and stuff.
I recall digging in prts for TinMan talent
Game has a bit of junk of what counts toward that
Im struggling in OS-S-5 
Which lane?
Well whichever I choose to not focus tho
The worst one are the bats tho
Well the ice golem one too tbh
But I have nothing for the bats
I either waste my borrow for them which makes the rest impossible
Or I use sash for it which can’t really handle them
Do you have Ines? She will hold until like halfway of the map
I have nothing 
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I have E2 sash e2 degen E2 pram and e2 tequila
E2 wise that’s it
I can send my krooster once my pc is charged it’s ded rn
Is there any 4 star that would be able to manage the bats
Or pair of 4 stars ig
If you want to use og silverash for them, so be ready to at least give him any sniper as a support for bats, I used silverash s1, surfer and krooster to deal with them and there was a constant need of using krooster skill
I meant sash2
2x 4* should be able to manage the bats
Which ones thou
Do you have Sakiko? She can solo the left side
Nah
Sash2 have too big cd to even in theory deal with that lane

I can borrow it
But then I can’t handle all the rest
Although I could use sakiko for right as well you’re not wrong
Borrow should be the last resort. You might need a borrow for mid lane
Sakiko is wasted on right
Mid lane is pretty easy to manage with pram
You clear that with any Agent vang
?
Any agent vang can both kill the snipers and the ice block?
Just snipers
I meant both 
Don't think she can do both...
Well
She can kill the snipers and skill on golem probably deals a good damage chunk
Well
That’s what most ops would do for me anyway lol
- pram can reach the ice golem to damage it as well
With S3
If you have Pram with s3 she can kill the golems for you
She doesn’t exactly kill them fully
She should be able to... I borrowed a lvl 60 s3 mod(idk) and she deleted the golems
You had nothing else?
Well Wis was autoing them

But it's not like autos do much to them really
Much more than all else I have lol
Lemme send
Hmmmm it says error retrieving data
Ok got it
Also did it have M3
Might have, I really don't remember - it was a borrow and it somehow clicked
Ugh, you don't really have much but it might be doable...
So
ok no she doesnt
Try SA right top, and his s3 Lapp on the left
Pram alt mid lane right side top
Borrowed Wis just below her
Ptilo for heals
On the mid
After first avalanche place device and Wis S3
lapp cant manage the bats
can lapp cover left lane?
She only has to manage them until like halfway
maybe borrow sakiko?
not mine at least
she cant
only if i place sash s3 on her
i can help her with degen s3 but that only kills a group of 3
lemme try spamming ranged units on brudge ig
or maybe i do spam frdp sash like with earlier stages
If you place too many units there you trigger more avalanches
ill use the device
If you had SA e2 that might have helped
he is e2
SA not SA2
oh thought you meant sash alter
Red-certificate 4* Contrail does great on left lane, paired with another for support.
But that's relatively niche to build for such an young account.
Honestly this is really early to be pushing S stages.
It's not really important to be doing this just yet.
naaaah i need my op
If you had some agent vangs this would be so so much easier
im tryna do s2 sash spam
but i dont have the dp to deploy pram in time
if i do that

wdym
im using s2 tho
A bit unfortunate Arene's Talent only activates against Drones.
aaaaa dp wise too tight idt i can yea
what a pain
the tile types make summoners kinda awkard to use as well
also i think has to be sash himself + smn else
issue at that point is i cant handle s3 downtime
would e2ing mantra or any masteries make a difference

or maybe e1ing sash idk
bro the golem has fucking insane def i need arts ground or smth
pls tell me i have that cat girl
i dont wtf💔
I meant SA2 top right lane and he uses his S3 to place someone on the left lane
then how do i handle its downtime tho
If he's facing down he should also be able to kill the sniper
u got e2 lapp guard right?
Nope

But you do have Pram alt e2 60 so she can help alot with the golems
im using lapp for the snipers
yea but she doesnt finish them
lapp is good for mid, can silence explosion and deer
u using S3 pram?
ngl I feel like trag borrow would be better
If you can kill the first golem, just place some unkillable defender to hold the other one
wait have you tried wis borrow?
yea couldnt get much out of her
There are only 2 golems there. So if you can kill one of the golems Shu or Mudrock can hold the other one for eternity
os s 5 ye
who you use to hold bat so far?
no one
lemme clear s4 rq
sash2 has too much downtime
if i do it with s2 i dont have the dp to setup pram in time
so borrow ig
bro if only i had some bum who dealt arts on the ground
legit im raising astesia
i dont have her
so she can tank better
:(

its the unit i searched earlier
yuh but what abt bats
his problem is bats 
Throw garlic around
if only trag had some more range
and could reach the bats
lemme try to stall until i get his cat mayb
bro probably broke 
i have some pink certs
does contrail do anything outside of this one opportunity here
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she hits hard
for a 4*
i see
SA2 S3 can handle like the first three waves of bats and then you can maybe put a sniper toward the left to help? 
keeping trag alive is a massive hassle aaa
just Saki S2
Problem is... their anti air is non-existent
E1 max 4star used up 13 slots 
wdym?
E1 clear
oh for this level?
ye
3870 def
i want mouuuuussseeeeeee
can u send ur krooster again
yeah blud your roster is lowkey too ass to do s-5



