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scarlet fulcrum
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But overkill better

elder flume
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Do i gamba another 10 RedOmegaLul

scarlet fulcrum
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Swapping with 4dp confess not that much gain ig DrudgeThink

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Welp auto seeded anyway

elder flume
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Only op i can change is Cliff or Astgenne2 ig

scarlet fulcrum
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Oh lv60 hoshit can solo ex-6 too, interesting. Welp whatever, its done

hidden axle
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Yeah she can

scarlet fulcrum
hidden axle
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Lemon wisadel mlynar trag can asw

elder flume
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Think right side has to be Pram2

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Left side Swire2

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But muh dp

scarlet fulcrum
hidden axle
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Whats HW

scarlet fulcrum
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Oh yea swire is merchant HellaKek

elder flume
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Will try Astgenne2 face down ig

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Can remove Cliff if it works

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Change to uh Stainless ReedBean

scarlet fulcrum
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The hardest part probably the avalanches device

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But welp its not easy challenge to begin with

elder flume
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Prob not since they get shifted before entering range
Assuming Astgenne2 can use skill properly

scarlet fulcrum
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I meant the killing part

elder flume
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This is why i hate her S2M1 RedOmegaLul

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Opens up another can of worms

elder flume
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Ray can do it
Just need to highroll Chilchuck twice for max charge

scarlet fulcrum
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Dang m3, another killer

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Welp forced to m3 ig RedOmegaLul

broken idol
eager turtle
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who can handle the moose on the right?

broken idol
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Pram2 in logos’ spot

rustic eagle
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Just have logos deal w it asw

broken idol
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Did you mean the deer or the enemies that spawn in top right?

rustic eagle
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You don’t need him on the boss

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You can easily clear all the enemies first and then only after focus on the boss

plucky flint
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did you clear cm now? SkadiDaijoubu

rustic eagle
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No DocSmile

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I didn’t have any time today left

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I will try more this weekend with cuora and maybe rope or lapp

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If not we get lazy until banner ends and I get sash which should make everything much much MUCH easier

plucky flint
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still have S stages for that DocSmile

rustic eagle
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True!AmiyaCry

warped dawn
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lmao imagine comng here to just get told to 'just wisadel it'

rustic eagle
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Nah I’m the only one who does that

eager turtle
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now i'm losing it basically when Pramanix gets frozen, i can't handle the right side with Logos only, any other unit how can handle the moose ?

plucky flint
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what's ur squad tho

elder flume
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Not sure why they spawn damaged

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Anyone that played EX 1 got this too ?

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I assume its something to do with Pram2 snow tile

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Where the snow goes offscreen to the left

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Ray is dealing 5k alr

elder flume
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Wao is it rng

lethal ferry
elder flume
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But my run never let them go off side

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Always hole at earliest

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Problem being my recorded run spawns the damaged enemies on left side instead

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I did point Robin up but surely they dont spawn above blue box

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surely

void terrace
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How good is degen s2 compared to s3

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Ive been considering mastering it for a while but can't really justify the costs

fossil sphinx
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very good

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probably the better skill in is5

void terrace
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Ooh really? Hmmm might get it then

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Too bad it dosent hit air

hasty minnow
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i mean sure its might be better is is5 but its not worth getting the mastery for

sterile delta
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absolutely worthless outside of chetto shotgun

hasty minnow
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I thought degens s1 and s2 were absolute garbage tbh

fossil sphinx
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goated skills

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s1 for stronghold protocol and s2 for archetto shotgun

fleet edge
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Aye nice

sterile delta
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something tells me they arent playing chetto shotgun

fleet edge
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I remember I saw Degen coming to shop soon supposedly

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Would be a pretty nice use of 180 gold certs

sterile delta
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eh not really

fleet edge
sterile delta
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correct

fleet edge
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I guess you can wait abit more for Ulpi in June-Aug

sterile delta
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shes a pretty good guard but has fallen way behind modern standards

fleet edge
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But kinda feels like shoperators are always gonna be somewhat outdated when they eventually come out

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Like that’s exactly why they cost 180 gold certs

sterile delta
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not really, i mean we got like 4-5 shoperators rn this year that are good to cert

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generally speaking sure

fleet edge
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Ulpianus probably will feel abit that way too if he comes out in Aug/4 months and we are nuking everything with wang

sterile delta
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dont think ulpi's evaluation has really changed since his release

misty lava
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i'll probably buy Ascalon for utility

sterile delta
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if sentinel didnt coincide with degen's release her assessment would be much less favorable

fleet edge
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I’ll take a look at the schedule for cert shop

misty lava
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Ascalon Logos later this year and Ulpian on 2027

sterile delta
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mlynar/ines are timeless obviously
logos ascalon ulpi
ray/zuole are around degen tier

misty lava
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omg i need to buy Zuo Le

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mah boi

fleet edge
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Ines probably gonna take forever to come back since she alr ran tail end of 2025

sterile delta
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usually ops will rerun twiceish in one year so

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hopefully soon

fleet edge
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Logos I’m not sure

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He seems kinda mid now
We have Tragodia Pram 2 and wang in 3 months

sterile delta
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hes still roughly the same as pram2

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id put pram2 over him but the different isnt really big enough to debate over

fleet edge
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Yea and both becomes pretty much irrelevant in 3 months except pram can still do afk stuff ig

sterile delta
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uh

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not really at all

fleet edge
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Yea I also think pram is better than logos

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Esp cus Tragodia exists

misty lava
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his S3 burst is stronger while Pram2 has a better afk skill but yeah if you're using Wang anyway ig that doesn't mean much SkadiDaijoubu

sterile delta
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both are very relevant in endgame

fossil sphinx
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relevant where

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where is logos prospering now

sterile delta
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logos is still talons core

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you should know this mango

fossil sphinx
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core where

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😭

sterile delta
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ros/logos/m3

fossil sphinx
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outdated technology

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we tragodia it up now

sterile delta
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no? ros start is still one of the theories for talon

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lend me strength tragodia this is yellow ice age we're up against

fleet edge
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Mlynar I don’t know anymore tbh Bnuuy
Sa2 made my entire squad, every single one of them is now a Texas alter

sterile delta
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mlynar is even more relevant

fossil sphinx
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mlynar is def more relevant than logos rn

sterile delta
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bro is approaching ela levels of longevity

fleet edge
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Past longevity yea

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We are approaching an age of crazy aoe damage soon/now

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With sa2 and wang

sterile delta
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uh

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not really

misty lava
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cn livestream tomorrow? SkadiDaijoubu

sterile delta
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25th

fleet edge
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Today’s 24th

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Nice

misty lava
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can't wait for more balans

sterile delta
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mlynar is still used across every IS iteration except d18 is3 and is a top 3 guard for gen content ChenShrug

fossil sphinx
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unc still got it

sterile delta
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unc got one more left in him 🗣️

fossil sphinx
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literally fought his way from is2 to is6

fleet edge
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But yea I guess Mlynar is still worth 180 gold certs
Just not as crazy dominant

fossil sphinx
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too many bugs in competition

fleet edge
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180 gold certs is not expensive

misty lava
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if orienteering is the same I'll pull methinks

fossil sphinx
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other than like logos asca m3

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and ines ig

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not a lot of other options old operator wise

sterile delta
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simply become eyanx and every guard becomes viable

fleet edge
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Yea someone like Ines would be a crazy shop pull
Less so now with sa2 but they work together too

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I don’t know how I feel about waiting for Ulpi

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It kinda looks like a situation where we will probably think less of him in like 4 months

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When he becomes a shop operator

misty lava
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well we'll see what tomorrow brings

fleet edge
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Yea

misty lava
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skadi alter alter

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jk

fleet edge
misty lava
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oh zuo le is actually before Ascalon, that complicates things for me

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but i do want Ascalon more

fleet edge
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I saw alot of people like hoederer for some reason

misty lava
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aeugh

fleet edge
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I didn’t really look in his kit cus i didnt like his design lol

misty lava
fleet edge
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Oh wow Ulpi is all the way in… October

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The meta would be crazy when that happens I don’t know if he will stay strong

hasty minnow
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my goat tragodia is so far away

fleet edge
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Entire half a year away

misty lava
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mon3tr lemuen and Tragodia

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how shall i buy them consecutively

fleet edge
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Mon3tr one of the ageless units

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Tragodia too depending on how they manage lure mechanic

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Actually they might not let lure age that well so we will see LappDumb

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Game balance reasons

hasty minnow
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game balance reasons and they decide to drop wang

misty lava
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new stage mechanic, can't place traps

fleet edge
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Well wang is just a lot of damage

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He doesn’t actually break game mechanics

hasty minnow
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right no need to break game mechanics when everything is dead

fleet edge
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I probably have enough to cert 2 units

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I’m thinking maybe Degen and Ascalon right now

Less so on Degen but there’s a massive gap to wait till Ulpi LappDumb
Logos I don’t want

hasty minnow
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degen is feeling a lot better after the sa2 talent ngl

fleet edge
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It’s like bringing Gladiia for Ulpi except it’s an actual good unit

misty lava
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i'm set on Ascalon

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I need her

fossil sphinx
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might get asca for stronghold protocol

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can't wait for gold cert shop

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spa will be over

forest vine
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I’m doing a challenge with no Recruit/Headhunting. Should I unlock Caster Amiya module? Or are there better free caster from the past events? And what are the event operators should I get first?

maiden hound
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tequila

merry snow
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Is there a strat to make IS2 somewhat enjoyable, the hope economy sucks

fossil sphinx
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not really

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mode is old and missing anything good

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to enjoy IS its to move onto IS3/4 if you enjoy the "figuring out hard stages relicless" part of is and 5/6 for the resource management and buff scaling part of is

unkempt lintel
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wtf lin wont survive anymore in os-ex-6 cm HellaKek

umbral kite
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this is why pramalters better PramaNom

misty lava
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need Enya L2D skin

mystic elbow
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What’s the strategy for this? I’m struggling

viral ridge
vocal leaf
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stronghold protocol is 3 players? BlemiCry

prisma ledge
fossil sphinx
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4 players

vocal leaf
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why are they forcing us into interacting with each other BlemiCry

elder flume
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Ok i think if enemy enters a zone theyre not supposed to be in then they are teleported back to their previous location

uncut gyro
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I have no idea how to even begin OS EX 6

pearl compass
somber falcon
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That's one way

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Another is putting pram near blue box and leave it for 5 mins

uncut gyro
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I tried Decadenza to kill all the bats but then the ice block guys woke up
And i wasnt paying attention but other ones spawned from avalanches somehow

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Oh.

uncut gyro
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Mine is just E1 Lv60, used s2 and all the bats leaked

somber falcon
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borrow a built one then

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it's ex stage anyways

plucky flint
uncut gyro
somber falcon
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yeah

plucky flint
uncut gyro
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E2 Lv16 SkadiDaijoubu
Im so poor on lmd

plucky flint
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borrow someone DocSmile

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max pot lapp2 can solo it without any help

somber falcon
plucky flint
uncut gyro
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Ok i ended up just using pram2 to kill the icebergs then mlynar and saki murder all the bats when they wake up

elder flume
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Out of bounds rule

plucky flint
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but why the first one u sent is half hp

elder flume
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Different animation for out of bounds and going into hole

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Theres stairs at the end of the hallway

plucky flint
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damn

elder flume
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So once left side went oob they teleport to right stairs

plucky flint
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so the hole from the edge is a stair ReedBean

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was it in this stage only?

elder flume
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Cant recall

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But stairs oob is prevalent in many other stages

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1-12 being most common fuckery

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They just hid the stairs off map for EX 1

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All hole is definitely doable

plucky flint
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hidden mechanics are really interesting

bright juniper
elder flume
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yellow squares are the stairs

elder flume
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oh yea theres a map where it looks like normal tile but is oob

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cant remember the stage name

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this one doesnt fade them out of existence but its a pretty bad oob

exotic grove
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oh yeah thanks for the epic showcase u sent me a while back
didn't even know u could frame 1 deploy an op on the ice cubes

elder flume
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yis

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just forgor Chilchuck is needed since i used him too much

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shame Folinic doesnt do the same

elder flume
umbral kite
fringe solstice
elder flume
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the fade ones i dont remember stage name

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guard spec stage only breaks pathing not fade sadly

fierce narwhal
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Korean VA’s is why I’m planning on E2ing Lee, since I don’t exactly have any ops I need to work on currently(and I’m skipping Wang, because fuck that trash can Dragon)

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Also I need a reason to use the Hello kitty outfit

rigid otter
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Quick question, how much attack does a maxed out Skadi Alter give with S2M3?

elder flume
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309.852 modX no AH
334.314 modX AH
292.992 modY no AH
322.56 modY AH

umbral kite
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how did you get the numbers that fast LappDumb

odd forge
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Hello my friends and my brotha

elder flume
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idt 4 mins is fast

odd forge
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Let's cooking ex 6 cm, but only 6 non meta ops

umbral kite
umbral kite
hidden axle
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Hoshi2 solo

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Unc solo

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Lemon solo

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Wisrot solo

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Actually arkrec doesnt have pram2 solo

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Unless I ENed big time

elder flume
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just make a submission

odd forge
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Fuck it, imma using frostleaf solo

elder flume
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get on the Guinness records

umbral kite
hidden axle
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Lets dew it

exotic grove
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stuck on ex-8
too much shit going on SkadiDaijoubu
mon3tr gets frozen too when I try to get her to handle ice cubes

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raidian dies in top right without healer so I can't handle bats

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blaze dies without healer in top left so I can't get rid of snowballs

hidden axle
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Where is your hoshi2

exotic grove
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not in rhodes island

hidden axle
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Was going to send an exu2+hoshi2 duo vid but welp

fierce narwhal
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I’m stuck on OS-EX6 mainly confused on how I’m suppose to really get any ops down other then just, Pray Narantuya has the moves and dodges her way to victory

azure roost
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what ex 6 again

hidden axle
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Hoshi2 solos

azure roost
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it is the bat stage?

hidden axle
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Lemon solos

elder flume
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inb4 Koo says

exotic grove
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yea

fierce narwhal
exotic grove
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no galaxybrain only Wgoof

fierce narwhal
exotic grove
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wait can logos handle the ice cubes for me WeedyThink
he might just die ngl

elder flume
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its only 80 res

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3 minutes

exotic grove
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he did it yesss just need him to handle left side cubes too before kjera goes phase 2

pearl compass
fierce narwhal
hidden axle
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Thats quite literwlly click and play

exotic grove
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there are too many enemies to stop the avalanche from happening
I'm trying to trigger it early rn so that logussy can slaughter them before the mob rush comes

hidden axle
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Never had any avalanche in my run

exotic grove
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yeah but your main dps isn't raidian RedOmegaLul

odd forge
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I will praying for success

fierce narwhal
hidden axle
odd forge
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Nah, it's normal being stupid

odd forge
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Theres nothing wrong with that.

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Just like wisdel

exotic grove
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ughhh but is it really nicheknights if the niche is waifu

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that's like saying yeah I play operatorknights

odd forge
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Wisdel nukes everything

exotic grove
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I'm aware

odd forge
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I don't read her lore, but she's really did nuke them in babel?

azure roost
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wtf reading

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i only read chp0, r6s part 1/2 and CoU

elder flume
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anything is a niche if you think about it

exotic grove
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CM IS -20 ASPD

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im cooked
logussy could barely clear the ice cubes

elder flume
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whats Weedy for btw

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pretty sure nothing can go middle with Weedy

exotic grove
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she does nothing
rosmimi does nothing too
I just have nobody else to put there

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I could try that
usually my ops get hit with ice stick and die tho
sussy got one shotted

elder flume
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is S2 fast enough

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ideally S2 to perma cancel deer

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or just have Logos kill first deer ig

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and i do hope that is S2M3 or else S2 fails RedOmegaLul

exotic grove
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rn I'm using raidian to kill deer and logos s3 to handle ice cubes at the very beginning

elder flume
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blocking left and right paths would just make golem not spawn ChenShrug

exotic grove
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hmmm
problem is that I'd need to borrow heavyrain or something to block both sides
since raidian is locked on s3 for anti air duty
and mon3 can't lanehold
suppose I could try mudrock borrow
nvm mudrock can't lanehold shit

ivory plank
pearl compass
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YEEEEEEEY

plucky flint
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isn't wis RI DocSmile

pearl compass
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I did 16-12 Sim2 with Wis+Gravel duo!

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And recorded!

exotic grove
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woah pog

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what is 16-12 again

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bear?

odd forge
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Bear

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Root bear

pearl compass
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Funny bear

odd forge
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Punching bag bear

exotic grove
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xD

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beat up by a roach and a yandere truly the bear of all time

odd forge
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You can leak it anyway

pearl compass
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BaseHP 1

exotic grove
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yea laneholding isn't gonna work
mudmud just gets shoved around by the moose
and she can't lanehold the snowballs 🥀

topaz sun
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this -20 aspd restriction genuinely ruins everything in my strategy for the normal version

exotic grove
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lmao fr

fierce narwhal
topaz sun
fierce narwhal
# topaz sun Challenge mode yes

Oh god, yeah not touching that, I mean, Mon3tr helps but otherwise ugh…
Then again this squad probably could clear it, idk, Haven’t done the stage yet

ivory plank
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wait whats wrong with -20 aspd

exotic grove
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can't assassinate the ice cubes with logos anymore joeAngry

topaz sun
ivory plank
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wait how r u using ulpi to deal with birds

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oh i forgot the birds in this event nvm

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the flying enemies r bats

topaz sun
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sorry the walking birds I mean

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yeah

toxic flume
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Os ex 8 is actually easy

left night
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os-ex-6 is diabolical
wondering how low rarity can clear it

exotic grove
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not that hard

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just use medicmiya

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then it becomes ez

left night
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Wait what she does again?

exotic grove
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demolish bottom left

toxic flume
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Hoshi S1 can clear those bat

exotic grove
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someone did an ambriel clear here I forgot who one sec

topaz sun
toxic flume
uncut gyro
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Help OS EX 8 SkadiDaijoubu

toxic flume
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And you can go out side or do something else

exotic grove
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yeah ambriel valarqvin and medicmiya
OS-EX-6 CM

toxic flume
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Alsi another set up with Sakiko

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The right side lane might be dead at the end but it fine

topaz sun
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yeah this strat seems much better than mine

uncut gyro
topaz sun
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the storisbits are pains it’s like they’re encouraging you not to interact with the avalanche system at all

left night
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I borrowed lappland umemployed to deal with the bat in os-ex-6
But I wonder how low rarity unit without global range can deal with the bat on the two top area (cuz putting more than 2 units in a avalanche zone will spawn the rock)

toxic flume
uncut gyro
toxic flume
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You can replace with gummy btw

toxic flume
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AFK

exotic grove
uncut gyro
exotic grove
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lanehold everything so nothing goes into the avalanche zones like bengal said earlier
or
slaughter everything with raw damage
or
assassinate the ice cubes before they become a problem

toxic flume
uncut gyro
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Uh
Is right side hitcount enemies or smth?

toxic flume
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Sakiko + Hoshi S2 + Any healer fir left side recommend to use haruka

toxic flume
uncut gyro
toxic flume
uncut gyro
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Kk ill give it a shot

toxic flume
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Byt

uncut gyro
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And I guess just mostly ignore the boss until all mobs dead?

toxic flume
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Remember to place hoshi as last unit

toxic flume
uncut gyro
elder flume
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the faster you kill Kjera the easier the stage becomes so

toxic flume
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But this strategy can let you AFK after done set up

toxic flume
toxic flume
uncut gyro
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Phys or Arts?

left night
toxic flume
toxic flume
uncut gyro
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Texas Myrtle

toxic flume
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Texas for extra DP only

uncut gyro
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Could I use Salter or Matsu maybe?

toxic flume
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Myrtle on early and replace with hoshi

uncut gyro
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Hm ok

toxic flume
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Remember to place hoshi as last operator

uncut gyro
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Which Haruka skill

toxic flume
uncut gyro
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Also can Umiri replace Ethan or no

toxic flume
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purpose is slow so

uncut gyro
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Kk

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This work?

toxic flume
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Um you can just use Myrtle

uncut gyro
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:3 ok

toxic flume
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Sa alt doesn't use here

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Only thing you should bring here is Any operator to clear leak

uncut gyro
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Well
Dont have to place him ig

plucky flint
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sa2 s1 DocSmile

toxic flume
ivory plank
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yo the snow shields also protect the icebergs from breaking free

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not sure if anyone needed to know that but yah

toxic flume
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Os ex 8 team

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Change perfumer to Mon3 and Add Ascalon S1 in Cm

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Change chongyue to Any ops that can holdlane and kill boss

elder flume
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yeah the golem trigger is 5k damage

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device makes it 0

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Chilchuck also makes it 0

toxic flume
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Can replace gummy with hoshi alt

gritty inlet
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Hey Has anyone done os ex 8 on challang? 👉👈

pearl compass
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Show your squad.

ivory plank
pearl compass
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Maybe will give an idea.

gritty inlet
elder flume
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read his talent

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its fun

pearl compass
ivory plank
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oh wow that IS pretty interesting

pearl compass
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I would change Shining to better medic tho.

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Monsta or Haruka, if possible.

toxic flume
gritty inlet
toxic flume
pearl compass
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Since I see your device is not shield.

gritty inlet
toxic flume
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Just need operator that suit to their job in this stage

pearl compass
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Like, still, do you have Haruka or Monsta?

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I don't want to see Shining in team.

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Like at all.

ivory plank
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wait is there something wrong with shining

pearl compass
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Nightingale at least?

toxic flume
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Dwag

ivory plank
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i mean shes bad but like if she works for her role in that match then isnt it fine

plucky flint
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how about show your other ops SkadiDaijoubu

pearl compass
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I even be glad with Ptilo or Perfumer, even.

fierce narwhal
gritty inlet
ivory plank
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????????????

pearl compass
fierce narwhal
uncut gyro
toxic flume
ivory plank
ivory plank
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what were they struggling on again?

toxic flume
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When only biss left

gritty inlet
uncut gyro
fierce narwhal
pearl compass
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Write that fast.

toxic flume
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I use Mon3 S1 btw

uncut gyro
uncut gyro
plucky flint
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it's more concerning if they have that in autocorrect ReedBean

pearl compass
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All of them.

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Supporters also would appreciated.

uncut gyro
#

So is the strategy the same for cm?

pearl compass
#

And Defenders.

pearl compass
uncut gyro
#

Nice
Hope i can clear

pearl compass
#

It's just harder due to slower attacking, but the rest are still same.

toxic flume
pearl compass
#

Dude.

toxic flume
#

He can actually replace Mon3 in OS EX8

#

😭

pearl compass
#

No Multitarget medics at all leveled.

#

Bruh.

maiden hound
#

lumen s1 save me

ivory plank
#

wait why not bring more healers

exotic grove
#

silence is multitarget if you think about it DocSmile

pearl compass
#

Btw Silence is better!

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Yeah

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@gritty inlet a fucking Silence is better than Shining.

ivory plank
# gritty inlet

you dont need to choose between shining and lumen, just take out someone from the team

pearl compass
#

Like imagine how you lost mats for fraud med.

pearl compass
#

A lot of them.

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And untouched ReedAlter.

toxic flume
#

Shining barrier is actually useless

ivory plank
# gritty inlet

also hold up besides the healer thing, can we address phantom??

gritty inlet
#

I'm an idiot

woeful spade
#

I've been at it since yesterday. Any suggestion?

exotic grove
#

doesn't hoshi alt solo this stage

pearl compass
#

Like you should come to #help sometimes with roster help, because I see you have no clue what are you doing.

ivory plank
fierce narwhal
ivory plank
gritty inlet
woeful spade
exotic grove
maiden hound
#

sl6 🥀

ivory plank
pearl compass
#

Fraud.

ivory plank
#

bros running like, year 1 units for some reason

woeful spade
pearl compass
#

Like he still can cook shit tho.

fierce narwhal
# gritty inlet

Still no, also if you’re gonna commit to Max Level Phantom, at least get him skill level seven
No this is not me saying to do so

pearl compass
#

Even with that build.

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Just need S2.

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Instead

fierce narwhal
ivory plank
#

for that

woeful spade
broken idol
#

I can only say “gitgud” SkadiDaijoubu

ivory plank
#

or just hoshi lvl 60 m6 good

fierce narwhal
woeful spade
#

Btw I should mastery sa2 skill 2, right?

fierce narwhal
elder flume
#

E2 1 S3M3 Hoshi2 is enough

fierce narwhal
exotic grove
#

I'm sure bilibili has a cleaner clear with her but I'm not chinese enough to know

gritty inlet
#

Oh(⁠。⁠ŏ⁠﹏⁠ŏ⁠)

maiden hound
#

sl7 is not that expensive anyways

fierce narwhal
pearl compass
#

Like the overall squad still solid

#

Start with Ely farming DP, deploy SilverAlter

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Don't let enemies coming into Avalanche zone is priority #1.

fierce narwhal
pearl compass
#

So you just deploy ops accordingly to kill incoming enemies.

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When on P2, just kill the boss, or let Prama Ally DPS her alone.

ivory plank
pearl compass
#

Like I still see the clear

ivory plank
#

you can probably tell, but everyone (including me) all agree that there are far better alternatives to those units

gritty inlet
pearl compass
#

With Eblana countering whole left side.

#

JessAlt right one.

pearl compass
gritty inlet
pearl compass
#

For boss would be even better.

exotic grove
#

lv90 jessicat bro might be based

pearl compass
#

Trag can drop the cat and carry the top left lane.

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Like you can put just 4-5 ops and enclose all paths for enemies.

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And level will become at that moment stupidly easy.

ivory plank
maiden hound
ivory plank
#

also yes, catgirl

pearl compass
#

The squad isn't really bad

#

Just need some improvements to 2 slots at most.

fleet edge
#

Oh wow lvl90 phantom

gritty inlet
fierce narwhal
#

What Vanguards do you have anyways?

rustic eagle
#

i think they want a frdp?

ivory plank
#

yea i think ines and elysium is good enough for vanguard purposes

ivory plank
#

theyre prob talking abt texas alter in place of phantom

fierce narwhal
#

Whoops

leaden sierra
#

Does anyone know if Lin can tank the robbers in LS-4 max risk? I'm currently just surviving with Nara dodge.

uncut gyro
# toxic flume I use Mon3 S1 btw

Took a few tries but did it
All my operators just a bit underbuilt, but sash2, distractions so mon3tr doesnt die, and a few blocking units to help pram kill deer was apparently all i needed.

#

Thanks RosThumbsUp

fleet edge
#

You can level who you like, just surprised to see a lvl90 phantom

#

Mine is at lvl60 cus he was unironically decent back then when modules first came out

gritty inlet
#

The truth is that I made it because it dropped 3 times instead of Silverash 3 years ago

fleet edge
#

Dupes matter so little in this game it kinda makes me sad

#

I guess a fast redeploy unit is where they at least matter abit

wicked minnow
#

welfare dupes good AmiyaDonk

fleet edge
#

Like a tiny bit

elder flume
#

welfare dupes op

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-3 dp on CS

wicked minnow
#

also some pots are 5% damage increases which are kinda big

elder flume
#

life changing

wicked minnow
#

5% damage increase is same as lvl 60 to 90 btw

ivory plank
#

i watched one of my friends play hsr and i was genuinely horrified by how strong potentials were

fleet edge
#

You realise that usually 6 stars cost orundums to roll

#

In normal gachas a 5% dps increase is laughable

wicked minnow
#

mmmmm i didnt know you were poor

fleet edge
#

You wanna make me not poor

wicked minnow
#

i need to get myself sorted out first BlitzSmile
a part of the reason i choose welfareknights is cuz pots are free

ivory plank
fleet edge
#

That being said I just don’t really want to spend
Especially not for a 5% increase in dps

ivory plank
#

and makes me crash out when i lose on banners

ivory plank
#

considering how many there are

fleet edge
#

I just hope they just tone down the power creep

void terrace
#

Does phantom +200% atk buff count for silverash slash

fleet edge
#

They’re ramping it up so hard right now I don’t know whether they expect the game to last longer or not

fleet edge
ivory plank
fierce narwhal
fleet edge
#

Sash2 unironically buffed phantom a lot

void terrace
#

The real question is it worth running him over texalf or yalt

elder flume
#

if the operator is not there then highly likely they have low damage

void terrace
#

Yalt has her burst on s3 and texalt has s2 to reduce res

ivory plank
fleet edge
void terrace
#

I mean there's scenarios where the long range slash

ivory plank
void terrace
#

With higher atk is just more useful

fleet edge
void terrace
#

Esp if texalt can't touch the enemy for some reason

ivory plank
fleet edge
#

It’s pretty good yes

#

In IS he is actually not bad

ivory plank
#

wouldve been better if they buffed the shifting thing that he had going on in my opinion but stats are always great

fleet edge
#

Ehh

#

I prefer what it is right now

ivory plank
fleet edge
#

Sash2 slash damage is quite abit but I don’t really factor it in

ivory plank
#

bro i lowkey NEED that MH collab to run, cuz yato would make some of my is stuff so much easier

fierce narwhal
void terrace
ivory plank
void terrace
#

The slashes are better for applying cold than sniping enemies

ivory plank
#

pray they discuss something about MH

fierce narwhal
void terrace
#

For non freeze immune enemies texalt can now apply 6s of - 15 rez and another - 30% res for 10s

#

Good for bursts

fleet edge
ivory plank
#

i mean i could REALLY use her for RA

void terrace
#

Honestly haven't used yalt in forever

#

Yeah she's god in ra too

fleet edge
#

By the time MH releases Yato alter will probably be one of those used to be good ops

#

That’s no longer meta

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But a collectors item

void terrace
#

Honestly instead of running fdrs

ivory plank
#

and id still be more than happy to use a slightly powercrept operator since i dont think anyone else can play yato's role without just steamrolling the game

void terrace
#

I just run trag

#

Since his cat is basically the same thing

ivory plank
fleet edge
#

Pretty much the same role except she is slightly less power creepable cus she has utility from the stun bombs

ivory plank
#

i mean lowkey i think it was tragodia that powercrept texas and yato cuz of his cat thing

fleet edge
#

So you can always keep her around as an emergency button

#

Meanwhile if Yatos damage becomes irrelevant she’s just irrelevant

ivory plank
#

i mean the biggest thing is just the dps scaling of practically all the new units

fleet edge
#

Everyone didn’t care that much about Chen 3 but her damage is actually disgusting

#

It’s just that Wang is .. disgusting^2

ivory plank
#

i didnt even look into chen3 that much, i just know i need wang

fleet edge
#

Chen3 is an alter that Ch’en actually deserved

#

Rather than whatever that swimsuit nonsense was

ivory plank
#

and the only reason is because i need a better sui sibling to trigger shu's talent rather than chongyue

#

bro my ears

fleet edge
#

If you have wang

#

You really don’t need the Shu squad either

ivory plank
#

how good is wang for air units

fleet edge
#

Op

ivory plank
#

he can hit air?

fleet edge
#

Yes

ivory plank
#

thats all i need

uncut gyro
#

Wow ok i need wang

ivory plank
#

cuz ive been running shu, nian, yu, and chongyue to activate the talent

fleet edge
#

SkadiDaijoubu I just want them to scale back the power creep

odd forge
#

And now we gotta wait

fleet edge
#

At this point Wang is simply a unit you place down and clear the stage

ivory plank
#

its such a pain cuz i get fried by any map with some decently dangerous air enemies

fleet edge
#

I wish I was joking but it’s as close as it gets

#

Wang is a unit you roll to not play Arknights

ivory plank
#

ive already rolled enough operators to not play arknights lol

fleet edge
#

Retirement op

ivory plank
#

its time to evolve into a collectors mindset and play higher end content

odd forge
#

If they release CC every three months

fierce narwhal
fleet edge
#

Yes

ivory plank
#

from dusk to wang

fleet edge
#

he doesn’t even take deploy slots
So you can slot him in a normal party and straight up never care about what the stage is even about

#

Or read

#

Or look at the enemies

#

As I said he’s a unit you roll to not play Arknights

ivory plank
fleet edge
#

It was a comparison to Ling

fierce narwhal
ivory plank
#

oh mb lol

ivory plank
#

also just out of curiosity, can someone tell me how many sui siblings and abyssal hunters there are?

odd forge
#

Ling better

ivory plank
#

maybe i shouldn't look at the help channel that much

#

too much meta focusing

elder flume
trail wren
ivory plank
fleet edge
ivory plank
#

wait dang it no vanguards

fierce narwhal
#

There’s room for one more in the squad

#

So you could slap in your fav vanguard

ivory plank
#

ik but i want them to be part of either faction

fierce narwhal
ivory plank
#

heavily doubt they're releasing another vanguard anytime soon sadly

#

vanguard is genuinely such a hard catagory to add new operators in because of how limited their roles are

fleet edge
#

I’m pretty happy with how they designed sash2

#

Not just numbers creep

ivory plank
#

oh i forgot vulpisfolia existed

odd forge
#

My squad for ex 6

#

If you using meta, just borrow lappy alter or ggDocSmile

#

I don't have gg

rustic eagle
ivory plank
rustic eagle
odd forge
#

Should be banned!

trail wren
ivory plank
#

some people just havent played enough to evolve from using meta playstyles yet ❤️‍🩹

odd forge
#

playstyle eh

fierce narwhal
ivory plank
#

i feel like its justified to use wisadel if your starting out

fleet edge
ivory plank
#

its just that the risk of getting "addicted" to meta ops like wisadel also grows

fierce narwhal
trail wren
odd forge
#

I was playing casually.

fierce narwhal
odd forge
#

TR15

#

HWHEHEHEHHE

rustic eagle
#

on themChenShrug

ivory plank
#

lowkey i swear there was one tutorial stage that was practically impossible

fierce narwhal
fleet edge
#

Well designed hand hold operator: Ling
Badly designed hand hold operator: Wisadel/Wang

both allows you to clear all the normal content until like chapter 15 but one actually involves letting you learn how to play the game

fierce narwhal
fleet edge
#

Well they do what they were designed to do, brain rot

odd forge
#

I like borrow wisdel

#

My brain gotten rot

pearl compass
#

I legally forgot where to flex with my 16-12 clear

exotic grove
#

here DocSmile DocSmile DocSmile

rustic eagle
#

nice gravel art

pearl compass
#

Can send the sauce

plucky flint
pearl compass
rustic eagle
pearl compass
#

Autochess

#

You don't need to click on anyone, but you have to prepare a flawless defenses between the waves

#

Depends on difficulty, enemy RNG, draft ops/relics RNG and teammate's competence RNG.

elder flume
#

Bastion doesnt have 30x stats

pearl compass
#

That one may do.

#

Prepare for it.

plucky flint
#

but why does it need 4 player ReedBean

elder flume
#

play the solo ver

#

surely my Logos 4k characters guide would do something

plucky flint
pearl compass
#

I actually wanna play that one.

elder flume
#

not sure
never cared about co op Stronghold

#

solo Stronghold is my goto

pearl compass
#

Should be

#

If they allow me that strat

#

I tried that!

#

But

#

4 so far

#

The Kazimierz Letter just won't come fast enough to benefit me

#

But when I argued "just do not roach that" I said "alr yall win"

#

And then this 1st try

#

smh smh

#

🥹

elder flume
#

just depends on your deck limit

pearl compass
#

Unlimited

hidden axle
#

Time to watch SP videos

pearl compass
#

As long as you can prolong this match

elder flume
#

highest rounds recorded was 1147 iirc

pearl compass
#

No.

elder flume
#

pretty sure you can

pearl compass
#

Oh wait

#

Yeah

#

Between waves

#

It saves a progress

elder flume
#

my average clear is 1-3 days

pearl compass
#

But should you close this mid-battle

#

Game will say you died

#

Like in IS

fleet edge
#

I hate that

#

I once picked up a call mid IS, paused it and tabbed out and when I got back I lost an hour worth of progress

pearl compass
#

I also afraid going tray on my phone midbattle in IS

#

Fucking IRL

#

Like 50% of my death times was that.

fleet edge
#

Probably 50% of my deaths was me getting bored and leaving mid run and then when I come back I forgot about the run so I just decide to press abandon and start a new run instead of continuing

#

ADHD gaming

glass monolith
#

In my past like 6 years I got only like 3 actual calls: job invitation, "who the fuck are you and what you do?" job call, and 2 idiots staying at different side of same building failing to meet

leaden sierra
#

Decided to go back to min maxing LS-4 again. Figured it out until risk 19, but have no idea what to do about the one risk with vanguard and sniper costs going up without abandoning the ranged team entirely.

My only vanguard is mumu, wdym she's 2x more expensive ExuHyperStare

sonic willow
#

🍿

rustic eagle
#

@plucky flint

#

Look how close I was

#

if that bat was dead it was gg

#

ong im so close

void terrace
#

Damn

#

Pramalt s3 seems kinda

#

Weird

#

Like yeah if you think of her as a liberator she's cool

#

But like I feel you might as well use trag

#

Has anyone found any consistent uses for it in general or IS?

rustic eagle
#

me tryna clear cm osex8 lol

void terrace
#

What's messing you up

#

Honestly not as bad as ex6

rustic eagle
#

crazy statement

somber falcon
void terrace
#

But when you compare her to the rest of casters

#

Like when you compare liberator to the current guard pool they definitely stand out

#

But phlanax don't really do the same

#

Her s2 is pretty much one of the best afk skills

#

But her s3 just feels a bit counterintuitive

#

Like she loses her defence and drags all enemies to her and usually gets killed

#

Might as well just trag

#

On s2 she loses her defence but keeps enemies slowed from very far away

somber falcon
#

It's literally just a fancy mint s2

rustic eagle
#

we got herrrr

#

holy shit

hidden axle
rustic eagle
#

@plucky flint i did it

hidden axle
#

Depending on yoir start ofc

rustic eagle
#

didnt touch cuora as well

#

stalling the deer on right was it

#

the rope thing worked as well

#

i think it did at least lol

hidden axle
#

Apart from that its really a 'I dont have the better options so I use it'
Its no bad skill but yeah there are better options

hidden axle
#

For lure, well trag

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For dmg, logos

#

Mantra also but there are t&c to it

rustic eagle
#

thats both separate tho

#

dont you have an appeal in having both

hidden axle
#

Depwnds on what you uwe s3 for

#

You either use it for lure stall or for dmg

rustic eagle
#

i guess the "i need to clear os8 cm with shit ops" use case doesnt really count as a mentionLappWorried

hidden axle
#

Well

#

If she's the sole 6 star

#

Maybe

#

maybe

rustic eagle
#

~~low ops material CeobeConfused ~~

#

i understand what you mean thoMudrockNaruhodo

fleet edge
#

Lure stall+ damage at the same time

#

It’s very specific but it works when it works

void terrace
#

At high diff?

hidden axle
#

Thats what I wqs told ReedBean and yes its max diff by default

void terrace
#

Damn

leaden sierra
#

I mean if the enemy doesn't hit ranged tiles it's pretty solid. Lure is just that busted as a CC effect.

dusk quest
#

EX8 and its CM, nothing that bad so far, I think the worst will be left for S5

void terrace
#

Wait does pramalt defensive stats let her tank the stupid bomb drone Sui consciousness stage

#

On max difficulty while she charges s3

#

The stupid artillery drone must hit for like 2.5k phys per hit or something

#

No way pramalt survives more than a few

elder flume
#

Prob will get a better angle if i just kill all mushrooms

woven plinth
#

Killing mushrooms gives more hits for the avalanches, but you can really just dps through the mobs anyway - just place a decent blocker

unkempt lintel
#

is it just me or os ex 6 the worst among ex stages?

woven plinth
rustic eagle
#

Takes a unit and two clicks ChenShrug

#

Yuh I was saying

unkempt lintel
#

oh

rustic eagle
#

I struggled a lot more with the last stage but I’m a special case

unkempt lintel
#

i missed that tile where she can be safely deployed

rustic eagle
unkempt lintel
woven plinth
#

You can also clear it the normal way with good snipers

rustic eagle
#

Or with wis

#

She solos the stage too

gritty inlet
woven plinth
unkempt lintel
#

yeh ive done way too many shenanigans... using ines yatoalt... shining + lin
ash... exualt

all that while keeping the ice bois asleep HellaKek

rustic eagle
#

Take a look at my special case rq

unkempt lintel
#

well if they do be awake... i use hoshi and saki

#

in which apparenlty a lot of job when u can just... put an unemployed wolf somewhere HellaKek

#

but yeh rly... i missed a safe ranged tile for em drone casters

rustic eagle
#

You can als solo it with sash2 + fodder stuff

#

That’s probably similar to what u did

unkempt lintel
#

yeh ill imagine it would be the same case

woven plinth
#

Tbf, Ex-6 was the only stage I had to borrow to clear

unkempt lintel
#

but ig all good and done... just seeing if it was the hardest among the bunch

#

which apparently isnt lol

rustic eagle
#

I mean depends on the acc ig

woven plinth
#

ex-8 challenge mode is a bit of a pain yeah

rustic eagle
#

And if you’re not using borrows

#

A choice that I don’t have lol

unkempt lintel
#

i have lappy alt but never think of using her lol

#

i just though she would die anyway

#

hence im saying... i must missed a safe tile for em

woven plinth
#

It's actually a danger tile but if you have a global range op it doesn't matter

unkempt lintel
#

and ngl... first time seeing the stage i first think of lin

plucky flint
odd forge
#

If you don't plan to borrow a unit, build your own operators, let's see how many days it takes to get started on progress.

rustic eagle
#

I do love borrowing units and not building my ops tho

hardy needle
#

Is It possible to time Yu second skill with 4 sui shu buff 1 SP + silverash S2 for the big atk buff?

rustic eagle
#

Imma be real I don’t understand

#

Oh nvm I do

#

I would guess probably not but I don’t have what it takes to tryReedBean

elder flume
#

The 4s starts when you deploy so