strategy

[rustic eagle]

You have all 3 so

[hidden axle]

Dont tell me I need to redo my auto for medal

[rustic eagle]

Just pick whichever is best for each case

[hidden axle]

Ykw

[heavy mason]

yeah...

[hidden axle]

Fuck medal set

Not like I sm changing out my is6 set

Unless ccb/new is

[heavy mason]

so use tool 2 for boss?

[bright juniper]

imo, trigger cause controllable instant true aoe true dmg is pretty good

[bitter void]

no tool 1 to kill the horde of bouncy balls

[hidden axle]

Btw fun fact
E1 utage solos first S stage of this event

[rustic eagle]

Just see what the dtages to come look like

[heavy mason]

gotchs

[bitter void]

since avalanche does 80% of their health the first time

[bright juniper]

avalanches just kinda autoclear the majority of the event for you

[bitter void]

you can tool 1 to clean up the remaining health

[hidden axle]

Indeed

Time to bring out my pushers

And s1m3 my weedy

[rustic eagle]

S1 M3 pramalt you mean

[bright juniper]

the avalanche zones also work really well with pram2 control points

[rustic eagle]

[bitter void]

pinecone seems really good against kjarr's balls

watching the arkrec clear

[hidden axle]

Pranalt's s1 masteries increases dmg not push strength

Not even sp costs smh

🥀

[signal vector]

Huh?

[elder flume]

Initial sp is good

[hidden axle]

I shared video above

Tldr roadblock-maxxing

[rustic eagle]

I used e0 level 1 pram with her push skill for the auto clear or the stages

[signal vector]

Except the boss stage

[bright juniper]

“majority”

[signal vector]

Ah I'm iliterate apparently

[teal olive]

does the silverash alter redeploy time reduction from his passive work on devices like traps and the tragodia cat ?

[signal vector]

It works on trag's cat ye

I mean it's "allies" after all

[river atlas]

No

silverash alter specifies “operators” not “allies”

og silverash works on everything but alter only works on operators, to my understanding

[hollow turtle]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GPmFBqEw8/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

at 3:35

how are they freezing that bear constantly

is it becuz pram2 is mod3?

[foggy grove]

isn't it just her talent 2 at works?

[timid schooner]

https://x.com/kurone_zero/status/2044549235216158960?s=20

くろねっこ (@kurone_zero)

殲滅作戦、単騎で勝てる時代になりました。

X · Apr 15, 2026, 10:51 PM

anni 2 map low end squad idk

just put this fluffy wife and sleep

[hollow turtle]

well its not working for me

[plucky flint]

what level and skill u using? and wdym not working on u?

[hollow turtle]

mod1 s3 lvl.60 pram2

yeah it must be the modules

[plucky flint]

modules doesn't affect that freeze even unless you're coping for the +def the module gives

[hollow turtle]

well then idk why the bear wont freeze >:C

god I need a better healer

[plucky flint]

I guess I need to check in the H stage as well

[plucky flint]

cuz the bear is invi

[hollow turtle]

doom and despair no way 💔 well its whatever I got through it

[foggy grove]

just make them not invis

[drowsy heart]

Harmonie usage.

[signal lichen]

e1 is a bit weird but shes been alright really

decent sized aoe slow field

gonna keep coping bro and pretend that the last time I ever saw her wasn't cc12

that is quite a collection of solid slow and cc there

podenco I always liked

cheep unit that can slow silence and create and aoe field is just nice

[drowsy heart]

Yeah, I just needed the utility so the others could regain SP and don't have any of the premium options. I do find Podenco kind of funny for being a Decel Binder but also having Abjurer and Alchemist skills.

[signal lichen]

super cool unit design

has a bit of everything and its just enough

[rigid otter]

How is Silverash alter on general content? Is it comfy? Can I finally change Myrtle in my general content squad (Or possibly just run them both)?

[signal vector]

Can just run them both ye

[river atlas]

Silverash alter: u get a helidrop u get a helidrop, everyone gets helidrop

[tight osprey]

uh

[signal lichen]

As far as raw DP generation goes, there are better options still, yes, in both flags and especially agents, but as far as raw utility, crowd control + unique options such as adding huge survivability to himself and Pram, we have Silverash for that

But again, most stages, including this new event right here, you don't even "need" the DP generation, so personally I value Silverash more than other options/would rather just use him than anything else, really

Also, yes, the helidrop additions really do stack quite well with avalanche chaining

[fossil sphinx]

the thing about dp generation is that natural dp regen is too high 😔

[vocal leaf]

karlan gang so stronk

[wheat arch]

he's great in general content, definitely better than myrtle

[hasty minnow]

damn game, giving us too much dp regen

[wicked minnow]

yeah that's why you feel it when you get barometric

[elder flume]

first a metronome now barometer ?

[hasty minnow]

yo guys is exu alter good enough to replace kroo

[hidden axle]

I have a feeling

You are gping to spark her

[wicked minnow]

like tonight is gonna be

[hidden axle]

[elder flume]

terms and conditions apply

[hasty minnow]

spark exu?

neuron activation

Thanks for the idea

[umbral kite]

you cant even spark her on this banner

[wicked minnow]

actually who would be more spark worthy in like a year from now? exu2 wisadel or sash2?

ignoring the part that spark is not worth it in the first place

[elder flume]

Wis is better suited for solo carry

[hasty minnow]

Nah I would say exu2, sash2, then wisadel

[wicked minnow]

solo carry it would make more sense for wisadel i think. exu2 strong contender and has better util but sash2 has more uniqueness and utility + staying power

[vocal leaf]

how does the combo work in the minigame? i still don’t get it

[wicked minnow]

the minigame has 2 rules kinda

before you can collect you need to advance at least once

this doesnt carry over between turns

2nd rule is that if you collect with a number n. you can collect again in the same node with n+1

that's kinda it

[hasty minnow]

solo carry is cool and all, but if you're sparking, at least go for utility.

[wicked minnow]

if you collected with 2, you are allowed to collect again with a 3 on the same node but also you trigger a combo

if you have a 4 then you can collect again on that same node triggering combo again

[elder flume]

its really just
have a goal
make the goal happen

goalless sparking is where its shit to funnel

[thick sphinx]

Hey for the 15-20 simulation, if u take the 2x dp snipers option, will it give a new map?

[elder flume]

why new map

[pearl compass]

What new map?

[thick sphinx]

Idk, I keep searching for a 15-20 simulation guide, and a different map keeps popping up

[thick sphinx]

Idek, I'm stumped 😭

[pearl compass]

Should be the same map layout.

Every time.

Maybe it will add new enemies, because there's a risk for it.

[thick sphinx]

Oh wait

My bad

I'm a dumbass, I was doin a H stage by mistake 😭

[pearl compass]

[hasty minnow]

new cc will drop with map chance mechanic to gigafuck you over

[thick sphinx]

😭

[robust pasture]

Can someone help me build my team I finally got the two characters from the banner I'll be leveling them up later

[pearl compass]

Proviso E2 for base, don't have to level skills for her.

PramaAlter, SilverAlter.

Surfer is also fine, Cuora, Silence.

Spot.

[rustic eagle]

How much time does it take for proviso to give back what you paid for proviso E2?

[pearl compass]

Half of year, as I remember.

[rustic eagle]

@mental lantern

[exotic grove]

drop your team

[mental lantern]

alreay ssending my units

this is everything i have. evn tried ex alter as a support unit and wisadel

r8-8 is STILL walking me

tried legit every unit i could get for help

[exotic grove]

holy skill issue

[mental lantern]

type shit

[exotic grove]

one sec

[mental lantern]

they deadass nuke everything as soon as it's down even pram on skill

[pearl compass]

Lemuen lowlevel is unfortunate

Amiya can destroy some while safe.

[mental lantern]

she doesn't kill fast enough to trivialize that

[foggy grove]

pram on skill is squishy

[mental lantern]

yeah i've been waiting to try and get her s3 sadly

[pearl compass]

Don't forget you can jebate the bombs with melee op.

[foggy grove]

[mental lantern]

yeah i realized my error there

she can take hits off skill

on skill sh can't kill fast enough

[foggy grove]

anyhow just bait when pram going on skill

[pearl compass]

Should be S3 then

[rustic eagle]

Not even with S3?

Yea

[mental lantern]

tried with gravel and some more and still got bitched

[mental lantern]

i'll be back...

[foggy grove]

you can also use lemune s2 and something like adna to mark

ez stage

[pearl compass]

Put some more.

Like if you really braindead, I could offer LappyAlter

And she will brrrrrrr whole map with ease.

From afar.

[mental lantern]

yuo have no ideea how much ive been trying to fin one justt for this

but if i fail again

might be the move

[rustic eagle]

She wastes time with the boxes

She’s too slow to solo carry the stage because of that

So GG instead

[solar rampart]

have them borrow wisadel for instant win button

[pearl compass]

She's actually worse here.

[mental lantern]

wwent to hell

was my first thought

[pearl compass]

Ep8 Air Mortar is literally Achilles' heel for her.

[mental lantern]

went very poorly

[pearl compass]

Gets killed from AOE very fast.

[solar rampart]

R8-8 is the one where all the air drones are around right? can't you just place wis (after drones move) and delete her summon?

[exotic grove]

ez

[pearl compass]

Yes. You can, but it might target her retreated summon anyway.

[pearl compass]

Talulah below 50% HP, try again.

[solar rampart]

now do it with talulah above 50% HP

[exotic grove]

Im stealing ur wis in icebreaker

[rustic eagle]

Why does that matter?👀

[pearl compass]

Secret End condition.

[solar rampart]

evil orange line

[rustic eagle]

Wait

[mental lantern]

i have a skill issue

[rustic eagle]

I did that one without realizing I think lol

[pearl compass]

[mental lantern]

oh so pram should be on the left not the middle

[mental lantern]

howhow oes one pull this off...

[exotic grove]

might be easier with rafaela rather than amiyi tbh
just any melee

[rustic eagle]

||if you wanna lazy it out you could borrow gg as above mentioned ||

But your roster can make it so keep scrambling around

[exotic grove]

damn yato kinda slow breaking boxes
maybe any melee won't work

[mental lantern]

i might cry ump another 200 into the game to get wis and just figure it out

alr

so seeing as though my unitts are uh

not ttoo evenly leveled

[exotic grove]

your ops are fine u just gotta brain harder

[mental lantern]

ik i need gravel

and pram s3

even tho s3 reaches like nothing outside those two middle ones

here's the bait squad

thoughts?

does lemuen need to join?

[pearl compass]

I would make her E1-80, then consider joining.

[mental lantern]

so mats i dont have

hm

[mental lantern]

best we could do was 65 before going broke

LMD is hard to get

[pearl compass]

[mental lantern]

[solar rampart]

it's time to start building your base

[mental lantern]

question

would silver fox s2 be better than s3 here?

[pearl compass]

Why not

It's his main skill

[mental lantern]

sigh

i was lied to

i thought so

[elder flume]

Skill usage changes each stage

[mental lantern]

then someone told me s3 was better

[elder flume]

Depends on what you want to do with it

[mental lantern]

well i know tthat

[elder flume]

Terms and conditions apply

[mental lantern]

but i also kno some genuinely arent worth using over others

like in what situation would i use mountain on his s1

[rustic eagle]

That’s not the case for sash2

Not yet at least

[elder flume]

GO stages

Apply tremble every skill use

[fleet edge]

Man is6 ain’t easy

[wicked minnow]

you learn it the more you play it. or you can just ask others for tips

it's relatively easy compared to other ISes but that's when compared

people find IS hard in general that not many actually give it a good try

[mental lantern]

fuck a three star a clear is a clear

i love you all and will likely be back soon

[foggy grove]

don't setlle for 2*,borrow if you have to

[mental lantern]

ill come back to it when i have sanity

[exotic grove]

wait is bro not doing the wis cheese

[fleet edge]

My roster is tiny
I used to clear IS2 with just solo Ling and a few units

Now that’s not viable anymore

Just came back after a few years

[wicked minnow]

ehhh

it's largely the same

just borrow the right unit

[fleet edge]

It’s just Raidan no?

[wicked minnow]

today it's exu2/wisadel/tragodia

in is6 you get your own raidian leveled so you dont borrow her

[fleet edge]

Was told to just always start with Raidan

[wicked minnow]

low diff is6 you borrow tragodia

[wicked minnow]

outside is6?

[fleet edge]

I’m in is6

[wicked minnow]

raidian is broken for IS6 but you get your own raidian and you level her through is6

so you usually borrow someone else

you can always start with raidian tho

[fleet edge]

If I start with Raidan I can’t borrow someone else

Cus it’s 6 hope lol

[exotic grove]

squad gives u free raidian

[wicked minnow]

what difficulty are you rn?

[fleet edge]

0

[wicked minnow]

borrow tragodia

[fleet edge]

Okay

[wicked minnow]

raidian is kinda ass without her specific pofficiencies and e2

https://is-central.github.io/is6-sui/is6-progression/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDLSsuIdT1w

[wicked minnow]

once you get to the boss you should be able to do something similar to what is shown in this clear above

[fleet edge]

I’ll look at it later

[wicked minnow]

there's a written guide i linked above as well that cube wrote

[fleet edge]

[wicked minnow]

the other borrows for is6 are exu2 and hoshi2

exu2 is more recommended since she's one of the strongest units in this mode alongside raidian

for now i'd work with tragodia till you get to diff 2

also as written in the guide, you can just do tavern objective shield stacking and leak yu lmao

[fleet edge]

A lot of stuff yt guides assumes a built Raidan or a borrowed one but you need to clear IS to level Raidan

[exotic grove]

because d0 is easy objectively

[wicked minnow]

ye unironically the hardest part of is6 is getting raidian built

d0 is still harder than like d3

since you unlock special squad upgrade by then that allows you to start with a fully maxed e2 raidian right off the get go

[exotic grove]

fair fair

[void terrace]

Depends what mode you are in

Highly situational

S3 gives a blindingly fast opening especially in IS where your team is small and you probably have a cheap robot from extra recruitment

S2 is more of a long term thing where he sits on the field and slowly discounts your entire roster to 0 while letting you heli drop in freeze slashes

S3 is also much stronger as a 'laneholder' at the start of maps with consistent damage aoe and acts as a support skill later on

[fleet edge]

S3 has some absurdly braindead clears for main story and some early CCs

[void terrace]

True

[fleet edge]

He just discounts Wang or Wisadel to like 3dp and gg

[void terrace]

S2 is more technically heavy and and flashy but it does pay off in the longer run more than s3

[fleet edge]

It’s very hard to have a long run when the game is over the instant you drop Wang

[void terrace]

I mean I play h4 stages for fun regularly

So yeah long run is more my thing

Mainly h13-4 h16-4 as my punching bags now

I did raise s3 first but I will have to say s2 is more fun

[exotic grove]

hm yeah they can def do it with their ops
idk if grace e1 is enough but hopefully it works

https://youtu.be/ZuJ2kXtNqZ0?si=zPa0XH9Op3PVmWhh
@mental lantern whenever u come back to it

[sly drift]

It's problem with Arknights for years.
The floor (Stage difficulty) stay basically the same, the ceiling (Operator power) keep getting higher and higher.

[mental lantern]

hadiya is worth picking up?

[sly drift]

I heard it's bad

[mental lantern]

i wasted my certs not getting her...

[elder flume]

rip under half hp

[sly drift]

It's bad

[elder flume]

no secret

[mental lantern]

oh nvm then

[exotic grove]

teach me your ways

[sly drift]

Hadiya is something like..you pay big amount of DP just to be in par (Or still worse) than Tequila.

[exotic grove]

hadiya's ass she just a cutie and cheap like sashter or mountain so I used her
like you can see in the video she literally does nothing except break the last box
which literally anyone else could've done

[hollow wadi]

hadiya is a test op for this branch for a future 6 star

[wicked minnow]

she's miles away from tequilla

hadiya is still like 1.7k dph on her s2 and that's after spending money to use her skill

future 5* welfares have way better numbers than her in general

ju skybox varkaris are actually competent ranging from 2k to 2.4k dph. tequilla is still like 2.6k dph but they each provide their own utility to it

[exotic grove]

how competent is ripresa 🥹

[wicked minnow]

she seems pretty good imo from numbers alone

lemme get them rq

[exotic grove]

cute 5* try not to be goated challenge (impossible)

[sterile delta]

perfumer artist

[wicked minnow]

i calculated it before to be around around 9k damage every 12 seconds. as long as there's 3 enemies in her range, she reaches these numbers for ST

she also has the better splash caster mod

her splash area on s2 is quite big from my testing

also botany as well was pretty decent from testing

hadiya is like 1 of the few genuinely bad 5*s they released recently

[exotic grove]

so happy about recent 5* releases

[devout hare]

How to beat this lvl ? This my crew

[thick sphinx]

Is this easier or harder compared to the prts in the main stage?

[pearl compass]

Sub Monsta for Mlynar, he will jebate attacks from Lion King (especially effective on CM), use Haruka S2.

[stray oriole]

it is a hell stage so

[devout hare]

Holiiii thanks man ur a life saver hshahahah

[pearl compass]

HoshiAlter will tank and kill enemies coming to bluebox, additionally SteamKnight Boss.

If you lack heal, better replace Kaltsit for someone else.

[devout hare]

Yah my heals are my weakest area

[pearl compass]

[fleet edge]

Time to get M3

[thick sphinx]

It is hard

Timer is too less

I should prolly use surtr for the boss dps

[plucky flint]

Just borrow lemon

[stray oriole]

my lemuen is lv 60 but its m6 and mod3 if u want that

@thick sphinx

just get a laterano for marking

[devout hare]

Her banner coming up?

[fleet edge]

The selector ticket

[thick sphinx]

I alr have a lemuen lol

[stray oriole]

Oh.

alright lol

[thick sphinx]

Operators is not the problem

I took a wrong team in 😭

[stray oriole]

okay i see that now

good luck lol

[thick sphinx]

Ye lmfao

[thick sphinx]

Yea no one's surviving lmfao

Need more healers, only one I hv is haruka

[stray oriole]

gulp...

have you tried using mlynar as bait

[thick sphinx]

Idh a mlynar

[stray oriole]

i got one but he isnt at max trust yet

and.. no s3m3

you could find one in support

[thick sphinx]

Oh...

[thick sphinx]

Maybe

[stray oriole]

just make sure you can heal the guy

[thick sphinx]

The golems are way to hard to kill

[stray oriole]

fair

you should also consider trying hoshi alter

[thick sphinx]

Im trying to not borrow, but ig i need to borrow for this stage huh

Where do I place hoshi

On the top side

She can hopefully kill golems

Maybe i should place her with pram alr and logos

[stray oriole]

anything for OP

[stray oriole]

top side works but the drone hurts

you could try that given you have a lotta ops

[hidden axle]

Ken

No way you are struggling with os-10

I am disappointed

[stray oriole]

its

wait what

ohh shit i mistook that for

OHHHHH

[thick sphinx]

Os??

Dude

[hidden axle]

Wait

Alistair?

[stray oriole]

ok well

[hidden axle]

[thick sphinx]

No

[stray oriole]

i HAVENT TRIED HELL STAGES IN CHAPTER 15

SO GOOD LUCK!!!!

TROL

[glass monolith]

I struggled. On Os-10. On blind attempt with only 2 units who know how to shoot up

[thick sphinx]

I finished event on day one

😭

Anyone have any idea how to beat

[pearl compass]

OS is current PramaAlter.

[thick sphinx]

H15-4

[hidden axle]

Ic h stages of ch 15

[thick sphinx]

Mhmm

[hidden axle]

Wait

Why are you playing h stages rn

[thick sphinx]

Yea, just did all the simulations cuz i wanted to use sash and pram lol

[thick sphinx]

I didn't do h stages, and they only cost 10 sanity, plus I alr farmed os8 like 10 times roday

Almost at 50 rma

[hidden axle]

...

...

During event

[pearl compass]

Should be 200+

[hidden axle]

You play onky event

No exceptions

[pearl compass]

[thick sphinx]

😭
I'll farm more in lappter event?

[hidden axle]

Clear event shop and 200 of each

No ifs and buts

[glass monolith]

Shit looks so overwhelming. After which I feed boss' dog to my dog (Ceobe), and Ambriel for Mark + Miksaparato for 4 ammo + Warf S2M3 cuz F it + Lemuen S3M3

[thick sphinx]

Event shop, I have a bit more

[pearl compass]

It may run out very quickly as soon as you start leveling ops.

[thick sphinx]

😭 holy shit man

[hidden axle]

Go back to os-7/os-8 hell

[thick sphinx]

I don't have any operators other than narantuya left to level

[glass monolith]

Glory for this game to allow to say "F it" and murder it instead learning efficient counter

[thick sphinx]

Last stage, H15-4 is the only thing remaining

[hidden axle]

Yes lets cry for mats right at last minute instesd of farming them when we have better rates

Arknoob indeed

[thick sphinx]

Eh, maybe

[thick sphinx]

😭

[glass monolith]

I have 200 of every mat anyway

[thick sphinx]

How tf u still remember that 😭

[thick sphinx]

Holy shit ur rich in resources

[hidden axle]

You are different

You is geezer

This guy is an infant

[thick sphinx]

😭

[glass monolith]

As older than I like to I can confirm - we remember random ass shit from few years ago be it because how funny it seemed to us or other factors boosting long term memory

[thick sphinx]

My team, pls help

[thick sphinx]

LMFAO

[hidden axle]

Stacked roster

Imagine struggling

[thick sphinx]

I mean, it's kinda my fault too, cuz of the fact that I left it on for 2 months

[thick sphinx]

Trust me, pram degen etc don't do anything in that stage

Especially since they can't dmg prts

Also the stage has a fucking timer again lol

[glass monolith]

Well roster is stacked but H15-4 boss def is stacked too

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

Exactly

[stray oriole]

arts spam arts spam!

[hidden axle]

Well it do be h stage

[bitter halo]

is it possible to use monster like ulpianus for silverash combo

[thick sphinx]

Hehe

[hidden axle]

You are in my fl iirc

[thick sphinx]

Yea

[hidden axle]

Borrow my shanare

[stray oriole]

yyeah

[thick sphinx]

Yup

[hidden axle]

50% def debuff

Go enjoy

[thick sphinx]

Golems?

[thick sphinx]

On skill? Which one?

[stray oriole]

s2

the yummy yummy doll

[thick sphinx]

Oooo

[hidden axle]

I have the goth skin on asw

[stray oriole]

Woah.

[hidden axle]

More cursed girl vibes

[glass monolith]

How good is Radioen S1?

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

Good for tanking or holding boss in place while other ops charge up skills or do dmg

Assuming ur taking abt radian

[hidden axle]

Prefered skill for ed1

[thick sphinx]

Mhmm, but I like to use s3

[hidden axle]

Though I was told if you know how to scale s2 works too

[glass monolith]

Well I mean in the context of those stupid golems in H15-4

[hidden axle]

Have to try

[thick sphinx]

Shit, radian wont do anything other than use yo deployment slots

[hidden axle]

50% atk debuff asw

[thick sphinx]

And we need to place ops to hold those orbs which become unblockable mobs too

[thick sphinx]

I mean, I could use it for top lane

But the thing is, I only have haruka

And she can only heal on side of map

Ive been using wis camo for the other side till now

To no avail

Time runs out or ops get demolished

[glass monolith]

Well you have alternative? Have Lazy2 forever disarm them while they try to break prama2 box?

[hidden axle]

Then use doll on prts

Kill faster

No timer ez

[glass monolith]

If you rush PRTS before golems then wave 2 is delayed

Or was it rush dog?

[thick sphinx]

I could, but by the time I get pram and lezi set up everyone dies

Maybe i should use myrtle 😭

[thick sphinx]

I mean...

How much dmg doll does?

Doll plus surtr one cycles the boss?

[stray oriole]

it dont do damage, it helps you deal damage

buuut

its a lot tbh

[thick sphinx]

That's pretty hard to do

[stray oriole]

its percentage and not an exact number so it'll significantly ease your damaging needs

[thick sphinx]

Ohh

[elder flume]

what does -def do for Surtr

[thick sphinx]

Oh

[stray oriole]

if you juuuust had ulpianus it wouldve gone crazy

[thick sphinx]

If I had ulpi him and gladia would take the whole bottom part to themselves

Then it's becomes so much easier

[stray oriole]

you dont even need gladiia

[glass monolith]

We are not lemuening everything for glory of sankta?

[thick sphinx]

Exactly

[stray oriole]

if you're willing to like

Time Ulpianus S3 with Silverash Alter S2

with the doll

iykyk

[thick sphinx]

Idk 😶

[stray oriole]

brah

[thick sphinx]

Idh ulpi so I never saw both Their combos lol

[glass monolith]

You can take my approach to stage - Say F it, and return during next chapter release

[thick sphinx]

Ahh your right, I can do that

[stray oriole]

ok so silveralter s2 is big schwing that's based on operator's own damage stat (320%-380%, sl7-m3)
That means it's not based on silveralter's own stat but on every operator's affected by it

[thick sphinx]

Yk sm, it hurts kinda, I was finally able to H16 4 cuz of pram and sa and wis, but now randomly I can't do h15-4 😭

Like wtf man, i still need a few more ops for other niches

[thick sphinx]

Yea

[stray oriole]

• the talent of silveralter giving 4 sp (which is just what ulpianus needs to reach 24/25 SP)

and ulpianus getting a SHIT TON of damage when he uses s3

the slash comes out at 1.1 seconds

[thick sphinx]

Oh so basically ulpianus helidrop?

[stray oriole]

yes

[thick sphinx]

Can ulpi even reach the boss on the map tho

Cuz u can't hit with ground units

[stray oriole]

all u gotta do is wait for a second and time it

[stray oriole]

the silverslash hits 6 targets

regardless of air or ground

[thick sphinx]

I needed to m3 him

[stray oriole]

and the deployable tile JUUUST has enough

[thick sphinx]

Oh wow

[stray oriole]

to hit the tip of the slash

lmao

[thick sphinx]

Maybe I'll borrow ulpia and try once my phone charges sm

[thick sphinx]

Lol

[glass monolith]

Well H stages are H for reason. I would be disappointed if they didn't generate problem out of nowhere... Just I wished source of that problem wasnt FUCKING YOSTAR INTERN FUCKING UP H16 ROADBLOCK STAGE

[thick sphinx]

LMFAO

Wait u talking abt H16-3?

[glass monolith]

Yes. I think they fixed it now, but back then you couldn't block off left middle path

[thick sphinx]

I did it back then, I never tried to block of the middle path lol

[thick sphinx]

Wait, u use sankta rt? Is he unkillable?

Like how tanky is he?

Is he worth building for my acc, especially since idh any good defender

I might prefarm and build him once masses travels reruns or sm

[glass monolith]

He is very good brick if you willing to commit 6* cost for defender when meta is killing it first

[thick sphinx]

Oh alr

[glass monolith]

I used his S2 to stall bear in H16-4. Because phase 1 bear is like spear throwing guys, don't approach while attacking. So S2 don't use ammo because I faced him away

[thick sphinx]

I remember u showed that pic too, u didn't even let the bear walk around, u Direct took it from the side lmfao

Welp alr, imma let my phone charge and try again or maybe just leave it for later after I build more ops or sm

[glass monolith]

I was exhausted from phase 1 and didn't knew how baiting works

[thick sphinx]

Lol

[glass monolith]

Ofc after doing stage I looked up bait and I was moron but that's different story

[thick sphinx]

[broken escarp]

What are good dps to use on the boss in h15-4, other than wisadel/lemuen? I am struggling to kill the big boss.

[pearl compass]

Wisadel is bad against PRTS, Lemuen is good.

Alternatives are Ray, Surtr.

Better if combined.

[lapis hornet]

ceobe p good also

[pearl compass]

75 RES tho

Maybe with Ifrit S3 will do.

[daring escarp]

Any arts dps then

Like logos

Pram2 can also do that

Main thing is to use medic + defender to stall golem at the top

And to do so you need to kill the boss puppet on right bottom corner

And not allow coming closer

[small oar]

hear me out for a ultimate dp printer, stainless + silverash alter s2

just give sliverash as much sp as needed to spam s2 so now every operator will be generally gett discounted

[limpid ore]

s2 doesnt even generates DP

[small oar]

true but uhh you can make things cost 0

[limpid ore]

that also not how s2 works

[small oar]

??? what do you mean iv done it\

[elder flume]

thats gona be an expensive S2 to turn a 1 cost into 0 cost

[small oar]

it indeed was

had him in the back of the map spamming it

1 into 0 biggest budget cost

[dusty gust]

do u hate DP cost? get AltaAsh now

[small oar]

who needs dp when everythings free

[broken escarp]

Thanks for the tips. Logos works pretty well. Why do I need to stall the golems at the top? I've just been bruteforcing them for now.

[short narwhal]

need help with H 14 - 4 road block position. or it has fixed position

[pearl compass]

No, you can control that.

[azure roost]

meow

[thick sphinx]

Yo

[hidden axle]

idjit
Her doll debuffs 50% def and 50% atk

[thick sphinx]

Ahh alright

[tall sierra]

I have to thank blemichi for this speedy run strat

[plucky flint]

2 op trust farm

[spark geyser]

can use pram2 + logos to duo/afk

[tall sierra]

Take too long

Coz of the turtle

[limpid ore]

why dont just solo right side, while you use the avalanche to kill everything else?

speed it up with the device

[tall sierra]

That ulpi with s3 btw, not s2

[plucky flint]

lapp solo doesn't take too long

[heavy mason]

The snowball from the maiden is hurting pramanix and my kroos can’t destroy it in time. What should I use?

[plucky flint]

what are ur ops

[pearl compass]

Pinecone

Like Kyo did

Effective if there's several of them close to each other.

[heavy mason]

I don’t have pinecone

[pearl compass]

Sadge

Any AOE aerial then.

With strong hit.

[heavy mason]

Sash?

[pearl compass]

Why now

[plucky flint]

I mean, yes og sash hits multiple flying enemies

how about you drop your op list

[heavy mason]

One sec

This is my op post

[plucky flint]

bro

[heavy mason]

Ye?

[plucky flint]

there's hoshi2 and SA yah

[heavy mason]

I know but it’s so high cost

Wait

Im so stupid

Thank you for the help lol

[plucky flint]

[heavy mason]

I need to drink more water

[toxic flume]

Chat i forgot to change Raidian S3 in boss fight 😭

Using S3 in end 2 boss fights is shit 😔

[chrome burrow]

what works well against the top guys in 9-12?

[daring escarp]

You have to break blocks to block their path

Use vanguards to combine dp production and block their path

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is this CM?

[daring escarp]

So you will focus your units/dps on right bottom

Top one amd middle one facing left

[chrome burrow]

wait it actually blocks?

didn't know that fr

[limpid ore]

there was tutorial stage about it

[chrome burrow]

i don't recall one about it blocking, I remember the one using it to kill enemies

[daring escarp]

It places debris by 2 block by side it faces

After fall

[limpid ore]

it's the first 3 dialogue of the tutorial

even written in stage description

[chrome burrow]

tbh i only cared for the win condition

which was killing them with the blocks

[limpid ore]

there is no such thing

[scarlet fulcrum]

Naran actually nice cheese here

[limpid ore]

ah yes, rice ball with rock inside

jaye s1 making riceball out of whatever the fuck he cut from enemies

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats actually s2, but yea just little sustain without relying rng

The funny thing is enemy mspd on CM, always amusing to watch how many times i revisit this

[chrome burrow]

i placed lappy and she proceeded to destroy the pillar and get crushed by it

I didn't expect it to fall that way

in memory

is there a way to tell which way the thing falls?

[glass monolith]

From whichever direction hit came

Unless it is phase 2 rock pokemon

[chrome burrow]

so it was fated so

[devout hare]

What there is a selector ticket with monster? Where to get?

[hidden axle]

Shop

Paid selector btw

[devout hare]

Ow 😀

[devout hare]

Why do I suddenly lose ?

In this lvl I was winning but I suddenly lose for some reason

[thick sphinx]

Lemuen s2 plus surtr worked

[river atlas]

How long did you take

[devout hare]

About 3 mins less I think

[rustic eagle]

Static bosses end the game if you take too long

[pearl compass]

Did you really think if boss is unmovable, he cannot breach you?))

[rustic eagle]

Since they don’t reach blue box

[pearl compass]

You have 350 seconds.

You don't kill the Lion King?

Lion King KILLS YOU.

[rustic eagle]

Can you silence it

I know the answer is 99% no but

I remember seeing a certain vid

[pearl compass]

Yes.

Because he's bugged.

And this ability is silenced by some reason, it shouldn't to begin with.

[rustic eagle]

Lmao

Thank you lappland then

[pearl compass]

Holy sh

[sly drift]

Ulp enter the chat

[rustic eagle]

theres a bug on os7 i didnt realize

lemme see if maybe im seeing things or

[sly drift]

What bug

[rustic eagle]

if theres nothing im missing, one of the bears walked through my blocker to reach blue box lol

[rose sentinel]

Can I replace Thorns with support sakiko and Wis with pramalt?

If so, what Sakiko skill should I use

[glass monolith]

Haven't seen enemy cutting corners so hard it skips being blocked, also enemies are so stacked you might miss hitting block count cap

[rose sentinel]

This is my squad

[rustic eagle]

it was on the top left blue box from one of the bears coming from right side

ill try to see if it happens again

it did look like a massive corner cut tho

[glass monolith]

It is not something which "never happened ever". I remember boss pathing on NL-S-4 having moment he cuts diagonal in way he won't get blocked by 2 tiles out of 4 in 2x2 square. Just OS-7 has wall there, so corner cut likely less extreme

[rustic eagle]

ill try to replicate it rq

[pearl compass]

I'm pretty sure PramaAlter will does whole work than Thorns should do.

So you don't even need him in the first place.

Saria and Spot/Gummy.

Ideally make them look at the unlit spots.

[pearl compass]

Otherwise one specific enemies may oneshot for example Gummy from this screenshot.

[rustic eagle]

FOUND HIM

hes about to do it

mb for the darkened screen its paused

hes probably gonna die before he does

but its him

[stray oriole]

sneaky little gremlin

[rustic eagle]

maybe i can extremely quickly replace him with lvl50 sash or smth whos not gonna kill him in time

[exotic grove]

did he cut the corner around teq

[rustic eagle]

so we can see

he did in an earlier attempt

rn hes about to

but hes probably gonna die

let me try to extremely quickly replace teq with sash

HAAAAA

[stray oriole]

LMAO

[rustic eagle]

there he is

[river atlas]

oh wow that is an extreme corner cut

[river atlas]

they're not even in the map anymore at that point

[rustic eagle]

yea he leaked

also

i think he wouldve leaked teq too

[elder flume]

not a bug

[rustic eagle]

he cant hit him once hes out of the map

no?

how come

[elder flume]

welcome to the introduction of circles in my square game

everything is a circle

so theres a few pixels where enemies are not blocked

particularly corners

[rustic eagle]

hows that intended tho, hes legit walking off the map

[elder flume]

the shadow isnt off map

body size doesnt matter

just shadow

[stray oriole]

das a real smooth criminal

[rustic eagle]

hmmm

[stray oriole]

styled on tequila and slipped thru just like that

[elder flume]

and by circles i mean circles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVmDrxFmD7I

[rustic eagle]

i have a doubt that tequila stopped hitting him tho

[elder flume]

yes because operator attack range is also circles

[rustic eagle]

idk i still feel like its still a mishap tho

[stray oriole]

report it! we might get op or orundum!

/j

[rustic eagle]

is that really intended to happen

[elder flume]

its not the first and wont be the last

some enemies can go through ops if they run fast enough too

[rustic eagle]

well this guy mentioned this ig

ig i can see it

but even its not really a big deal i would rather it not happening yk

[glass monolith]

Do you have quick way to look up funny Chongus event boss (Or which one was "all tiles are melee")

[rustic eagle]

other bears were blocked too its just that guy

the chosen one

[glass monolith]

Glory to playing ambusher to not discover that shit

[rustic eagle]

lmao

once he steps out ambushers may not hit him anymore too tho

[glass monolith]

I didn't rofl from farm stage for a while, but 95% of stage trip over and die with assist of forced avalance is so funny

[rustic eagle]

i was redoing it to get the autoclear with the roster i wanna trustfarm

mr bear had other plans

[glass monolith]

Mr Bear trust farms you

As revenge for his chapter 16 bro

[rustic eagle]

WHICH DOESNT HAVE PRAMANIX

IM SO STUPID

[glass monolith]

[sly drift]

Ppl farm on OS-7?

Aren't we crippled of RMA

[elder flume]

check what next event gives

[sly drift]

What

What event

Give rma

[elder flume]

Lapp2

[sly drift]

Alr

[glass monolith]

I don't recall at which point of time but i have stupid supply of RMA. On other hand WHERE GEL AND ORIRON

[rustic eagle]

i have nothing

[sly drift]

Bro how's skalter new mod? Is it that bad that no one actually cover it

[pearl compass]

Lv1 is lmao.

[sly drift]

How many +SP she gives to deployed op?

[river atlas]

0?

[sly drift]

What?

You mean +SP is for herself?

[fossil sphinx]

yes

[elder flume]

The S1 S3 spammer mod

It wins by 5 attack when failure to complete 2 ops in range for +8% atk

[odd forge]

It looks like i don't need borrow unit anymore

[fleet edge]

It’s pretty good actually

But it’s also boring

It’s self battery so it’s a pretty big deal

[left night]

Pramanix2 is so fking broken in annihilation with s2

[ornate loom]

hey guys, would anyone be so nice and help me build a team? https://www.krooster.com/u/swift-rainbow-lemur-677n
this is my krooster, i only just got lapp alter that is the only change. also the team im running rn

[woven plinth]

Thats quite a bit of defenders

And is your krooster is up to date? I don't see SA or Surtr there

[ornate loom]

i think i just imported it

[woven plinth]

Swap Cuora for Lapp alt imho and you could use another caster

[umbral kite]

replace click with lappalt

[hybrid raptor]

what's the best healer to use for jt 8-3?

[woven plinth]

People soloed with Mon3tr, but you can just use more medics and clear it

[hybrid raptor]

doesn't she need to hit something and lose hp overtime? if i get ignited i'm cooked am I not?

[woven plinth]

She's a chain medic and she can heal herself

[clever hedge]

with s3 on maybe, but even if she died with s3 up she'd just pop back to original position

[umbral kite]

she gets her own summon that loses hp overtime

thats all it does

she doesnt lose hp herself and when she heals the summon it gets an extra bounce

(also she's purely offensive recovery so she benefits from constantly healing something)

[hybrid raptor]

well somehow i die faster using mon3tr than using nightingale

[gentle cove]

because nightingale gives res

[hybrid raptor]

well that was actually relevant

I barely survived with 3 medics

[gentle cove]

yeah make sure to remember that fire is art but burn is elemental
your operator being cooked alive can have a vastly different outcome in the how

[fierce narwhal]

And that’s why we have the duo and or trio of a RAT, chef and Yato™

To eat being burned alive

[hybrid raptor]

i'm too braindead for that, that's why i want to brute force it

[gentle cove]

i just used my tiger and haruka
Mountain is not flammable

[hybrid raptor]

it worked out tho, so yeah

[fierce narwhal]

I mean, when you can completely ignore massive arts damage yeah, but I didn’t have nightingale or Haruka, only had monster ans she was not enough to heal through the fire, even with skill

Though, i didn’t have any of her masteries then so that might have been a big differences

[gentle cove]

i had to borrow the haruka, tho id have assumed monster could outheal

[hybrid raptor]

mon3tr died in the fire balls phase for me

she basically killed herself

[gentle cove]

you're supposed to protect your weak units

[fierce narwhal]

I was able to figure it out wihtout any borrowing though

[woven plinth]

I just used 4 healers

[hybrid raptor]

well, she could have lived if she heals the tank

but my tank is weak

[gentle cove]

my tanks autoheal to counter that issue

my medics arent good enough so i rely on the tank to do their job

[fierce narwhal]

Eh, I figured out through just letting everyone die then using left over ops to stall the dogs & Snakelulah

[woven plinth]

I put Blaze to kill the boss and 4 healers around her in a way they don't chain bomb each other. Worked like a charm

[hybrid raptor]

funny we have the opposite problem lol

[gentle cove]

tbh that's mostly how i have mine living

[hybrid raptor]

at least i got my guard amiya, i don't think i can grind for medic any time soon

[gentle cove]

yeah, im rushing that chapter after the event, currently taking a break of the levels aswell to prepare
getting ready for thoses fights

[woven plinth]

ch 14 isn't as brutal as the ending of 8 was

[gentle cove]

9-9 currently 🙏
but i just got two new modules already

compensate the lack of healing by making things die quicker

[mental lantern]

for jt8-2 should i use pram s2 or s3

[fierce narwhal]

Snakelulah is either an Op check or a Fast Redeploy check, if, that makes sense

[mental lantern]

cuz i know i can prolly pull the drone to kill with s3

but i also have luemen to snipe it with s2

[gentle cove]

lemuen can probably solo both drone and talulah

[mental lantern]

i dont have s3

[woven plinth]

For me it was a healing check. The boss itself is laughable but the intermissions were killing me

[gentle cove]

draft the saintess there then

[fierce narwhal]

The intermissions Did kill me, I just accepted my ops would die and planned around that

[mental lantern]

sigh

[gentle cove]

^dogs are flammable btw

[hybrid raptor]

well I just borrowed a hoshi2 and she clears the drone and more easily

[mental lantern]

i dont need this for anything farm wise right?

[gentle cove]

some dude farmed jt8-3

[mental lantern]

is this time to steal a wis to nuke the boss

[fierce narwhal]

Stalling her in front of blue box made for some stress but I figured out a way to beat it

[gentle cove]

ironically i wouldnt even recommend wis personally, but you do you

also jt8-2 isnt talulah the issue

it's the last wave

[mental lantern]

oh the last wave i was fine on

i couldnt kill her in time

[woven plinth]

I didn't have a roster that could do that yet

[mental lantern]

i cleared all the mobs

[woven plinth]

So had to find another way

[gentle cove]

well then yeah ig you gotta focus talulah

[fierce narwhal]

The dogs that come in during the intermission take burn damage?

[gentle cove]

fire* damage, yes

[fierce narwhal]

Yeah that was what I meant.

[gentle cove]

i make a distinction cause art and elemental dont hurt the same

[fierce narwhal]

To be fair, I didn’t either really, had to cycle ops in front of her to stall

[hybrid raptor]

bc of 8-3 i realized i should always bring yato, salt swaps any high cost for a 7 cost is lowkey kinda crazy

[fierce narwhal]

Fair enough

[fierce narwhal]

I have Lee on my bench for it, though that’s also cause, If I don’t get Pram alter this banner, I’m planning on E2ing him, so he might as well for now be a SAlter cost swap op

Yes I know Lee is bad

I like Lee, his Korean VA is one I like a lot

Thus, he’s getting E2’d

[hybrid raptor]

i mean idk what he does but ik yato can always be used as bait

[gentle cove]

lancet 2 could be even cheaper

4 dp is 4 dp

[hybrid raptor]

oh yeah the robot

[gentle cove]

THRM if you dislike lancet works too, or jaye if you dislike robots

[fierce narwhal]

Merchant with a coin flip dodge S3

[rustic eagle]

Play u official best robot

[hybrid raptor]

well my jaye is just yato but chef

he's not 5 cost anymore

[gentle cove]

thrm/lancet/jaye are 3 cost at base, but yeah i see

[elder flume]

Uofficial is sadly one of the worst as she doesnt have -75% rdp robots have

Stuck with bringing double SA

[elder flume]

I got lazy

https://youtu.be/Sdg9r6LeGu0?si=xLKdrwgyVkfZT58H

[mental lantern]

is there anything i need to invest in for jt8-3 because im getting shit on even tryna abuse jaye gravel and yato for fast redeploys

[woven plinth]

Perfumer is your only healer? You're toast

[hidden axle]

Borroe haruka snd call it a day

[mental lantern]

isn't even realize healer chips were open today i've been waiting to try and get mon3tr up

[woven plinth]

Wait you have Mon3tr - up her

[fierce narwhal]

Yeah

[drowsy heart]

The Reconstruction can also tank a few fireballs.
(And bait some Burning Breaths from Talulah.)

[mental lantern]

deadass just couldn't build her because it's been closed since i got her

[woven plinth]

Mon3tr is never a bad investment, she can heal, she can delete heavy stuff due to true damage

[mental lantern]

isn't the true damage on s3 tho?

[woven plinth]

It's s3 but it's still true damage

And she fills up her sp kinda fast

[drowsy heart]

S2 also very good, the ASPD buff means everyone else is enhanced too, so other healers for example will also heal faster.

[woven plinth]

For jt8-3 you want her s2 tho

[fierce narwhal]

The power of having Something to heal at all times

[fierce narwhal]

Heal the healers to heal more with healers

[hidden axle]

Kill faster

[drowsy heart]

Fireballs.

I used five Medics in my JT8-3 clear I think, though only 6* was Mon3tr.

[mental lantern]

[elder flume]

And then theres Sussuro solo healing 2 lanes

[true lodge]

Alright, I need ideas. Who else is a good fit for a Salter s2 team?

[hidden axle]

Another crusher like hoe ig

[hybrid raptor]

i used perfumer, lumen + a borrowed nightingale

very close but they keep everyone survive

but then again my lemuen is e2 lv60 so i kill the boss fairly quickly, it could go wrong at any moment

[drowsy heart]

If borrowing Haruka is the best option.

[mental lantern]

yeah i wish i could e2 mine rn

[drowsy heart]

E1 should be enough for Talulah though I think?

[little mantle]

guys how do you think about this team

[drowsy heart]

That's the wrong Crownslayer Skill.

[exotic grove]

what is this silverass clear
oops all slashes
well done

[elder flume]

S3 works also but then i would have to use my E0 1 5star defenders

Utage wants S1L4+

[exotic grove]

why does she need that

[elder flume]

Self heal

6% hps +100% def is something

[mental lantern]

i shall see when i pull over

[woven plinth]

I'd say s3 on Mon3tr unless you really need s2

[little mantle]

you know now thinking about it I haven't ever use mon3tr's s3

[woven plinth]

It's a "delete those guys" skill

[mental lantern]

do you say her name like

monster

cuz wouldn't that come out to monetr

so like monitor

[woven plinth]

"Monster" is the official version yeah

[mental lantern]

makes sense thanks

[rustic eagle]

What I see here is one more incentive to raise utage

[drowsy heart]

I concur.
(She was my first E2.)

[bright juniper]

wait till you hear about mon2tr

[limpid ore]

it's kaltsit module

[signal vector]

and then mon3tr alter would be called mon4tr

[void terrace]

Lowkey degen is just a better mountain now.....

With sa skill charged

No aoe but a boatload of defence, more hp, and she heals through her s3 invincibility

[wicked minnow]

that's a usage i havent thought of

[little mantle]

I really like using m3's s2

I usually just use her as a medic that has larger range and give aspd buff

[fleet edge]

It’s pronounced MonZter
3 is the cryllic character in Slavic that’s pronounced like Z

That’s also how they pronounce it ingame

Monzter

[lilac steppe]

Make sense... monzter

[mental lantern]

interesting

okay so i got the third alter from the event

totally forgot she was dropping

and finally got hers2

is the astgenne alter worth using?

especially in this stage with this nonsense meteeor shower

[fleet edge]

She’s p much never worth using

[ebon prism]

I need help beating talulah

this is the team ive been trying it with and i just cant vro

i cant outheal or tank

🥀

[ebon prism]

like yeah i can blitz her health but i just cannot for the life of me getr through these fireballs

[mental lantern]

please tell me this is a different talulah than im on

pleease tell me theres two

or this is the challengee mode

[ebon prism]

jt8-3

[mental lantern]

if THAT is having issues what do yall expect outta me

[weak gazelle]

try the simple one i guess
retreat and redeploy all your ops when fireballs come

[ebon prism]

it doesnt work

the enemies just leak

:p

[weak gazelle]

if that didnt work then borrow NG

[ebon prism]

im trying to beat it without borrowing

[weak gazelle]

have frd?