strategy

[naive holly]

did you read ?

story

lol

[toxic flume]

Read

Not ever details

But 60%

[naive holly]

got it

[azure roost]

[chrome burrow]

should I be using two healers?

[naive holly]

if you are having trouble staying alive

sure

[somber falcon]

If you need two then you use two

[naive holly]

also its very well worth having pti for more than healing

[chrome burrow]

ansel doesn't cover enough ground on the stage ong

[somber falcon]

It's very much not

[naive holly]

why not

[somber falcon]

0.3 sp is overhyped

[naive holly]

if you have high sp costing

ops

its good

[somber falcon]

Like what

[naive holly]

is there anything better tho

[chrome burrow]

should I just use a support healer or should I build another?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Id have mountain so, quite simple stage tbh

[somber falcon]

If the skill isn't permanent and the sp cost is 80+ just redeploy them

[naive holly]

what are your medic ops which are a bit built ?

[toxic flume]

Who do you have

[naive holly]

hmm

idk i think its worth building pti

[toxic flume]

So redeploy medic donkey?

[toxic flume]

Pito and Perfumer

Or Gravial

But pito for SP

[somber falcon]

Why are you using her in the first place

[naive holly]

same

[toxic flume]

3.5%max hp Global regen

[somber falcon]

[naive holly]

my pti isnt even fully built yet

working on her after base slaves

[toxic flume]

@naive holly also

E2 Amiya for ch8

[naive holly]

i just read them online

ill e2 amiya in last cuz i heard medic amiya is fine

[toxic flume]

Yeah

[naive holly]

and ch14 gives medic amiya

[toxic flume]

Ch 10 and 12 is Bs

[naive holly]

10 is kinda hard

12 is just among us

i liked 12

[toxic flume]

Nah bro boss suck your operator

And create 3rd form

[chrome burrow]

oki I did it after borrowing a glint, I just didn't have enough ranged ops for the job is all

[scarlet fulcrum]

Glint is free, kroos also free

[chrome burrow]

yeah I have glint I just don't have the resources to build her

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can work around with ur ops, but having 1 maksman raised wont hurt

Yeah no chip rn

Kroos 3* also fine to level up

[chrome burrow]

i have her levelled

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah thats fine then, she will do the job

Raise Skill level too

[chrome burrow]

i have poz but she seems pretty useless this early

[toxic flume]

She is anti tank

[chrome burrow]

this is just my current squad i guess fr

[toxic flume]

Mountain E1 is enough

[chrome burrow]

I presume I should pull on ash and pram alter when they show up?

[toxic flume]

Ofc

Also off rate character re Meta

Yeah I talking about WisAdel

[chrome burrow]

I only started playing because I logged in, did a stray 10 pull and got mantra fr

hag is what I stay for

[toxic flume]

Mantra is good

But not for me since i use different elemental team

[chrome burrow]

I did a 10 pull on the banner with 4 characters on or whatever and got lemuen

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mountain to s2, cuora s2, mantra s2, myrtle s1

[toxic flume]

Lemon S2 is Tank killer

[chrome burrow]

i fogor about saria hol up

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can also afk for mobbing, but yeah unless u need it lemuen stay with s3

[chrome burrow]

will silverash alter replace fang on my squad?

[toxic flume]

Definitely

[chrome burrow]

what about pram?

[toxic flume]

You can replace Surtr

[chrome burrow]

see if I just get both of them and wis in 10 pulls

that is the way

consider that my strategy

[glass monolith]

Imagine alternative universe where they try to do that showcase but boss dodge all of them

[chrome burrow]

saria s1 or s2?

[toxic flume]

My man patriot still a sandbags in Official showcase

[toxic flume]

S1 and S3 for use

[chrome burrow]

alright thanks

when is it worth levelling e1 characters? just because it costs a lot

[toxic flume]

Also Lappland off rate

[chrome burrow]

should I just level lemuen as high as she can go?

[toxic flume]

Only 30

Fir newbie

[chrome burrow]

oki so is 30 the best for saving mats?

[toxic flume]

E1?

Oh wait you talking about lemon

30 is enough for now

60 for module

90 for endgame content ( max lv )

E2 mountain is doesn't worth it

[chrome burrow]

I really wish the starter banner would go away, I got mountain early from it and now the banner haunts my headhunting page

or whatever

like why is the banner still here

go away

[toxic flume]

You can get 190 pull in 2 days

If you're newbie

But it took your irl soul
I mean i spend 12 hours straight for 3 days

[chrome burrow]

tbh if it really comes down to it I will spend a little

sunk cost fallacy hits me quite hard

[plucky mason]

Playing Arknights?

[chrome burrow]

if i'm enjoying a game I will happily spend a little at least on the first time bonus stuff

that's how i usually roll

[toxic flume]

Yes

And 190 pull i grind

It fucking off rate

Lappland banner that i spend my soul on it is ugh

I almost delete game after banner go

[plucky mason]

Oof that's rough

If it helps I never got Hoshi haruka yu and blaze alter

[chrome burrow]

different game but I spent a couple hundred on fgo to then not get anything then spent like another three hundred

[plucky mason]

I got a non limited six star both times

[chrome burrow]

cost wise fgo works out to like max cons in any other game ong

i'm glad arknights isn't as bad

[toxic flume]

But my luck after that us insane

[chrome burrow]

will there come a point when I would want a character from the distinction shop?

[toxic flume]

I doesn't get Exu alt but all limited after Lappland alt is always 20

I got hoshi in 20 Haruka at 40

[plucky mason]

I hope I get silver ash

Alter

[azure roost]

pro

[chrome burrow]

when will that banner come around?

[plucky mason]

Probably after icebreaker games but idk for sure

[toxic flume]

After joint

[chrome burrow]

so the day after?

16th

[plucky mason]

Maybe a few days or a week after idk

[chrome burrow]

oh okay

[plucky mason]

Probably a few days

[chrome burrow]

so like end of the month

a while away then

[plucky mason]

Yeah

[dusty gust]

The sin of not investing in Haruka is punishable by DEATH

[shell vessel]

can I clear JT8-3 with this lineup (only medics level up are silence and gavial)

[elder flume]

Prob

Just borrow Haruka

[azure roost]

ye

its just usual cycle

[toxic flume]

Shu S3 is enough

[azure roost]

or grab haruka as rain said

[shell vessel]

which skill for haruka?

[elder flume]

2

You pretty much just sub your units in to make it faster
https://youtu.be/9I7KfuWWqJU?si=EFGIdVJ1QlM6U3kh

[shell vessel]

okay thankss

[glass monolith]

what kind of satan made this chapter 8 look alike civil stage for icegames

[lilac burrow]

Apply for cc role

[elder flume]

But i dont make content

I just archive my findings

[lilac burrow]

Me neither

I applied for fun and got it

You get to be grass

[elder flume]

Green is bad

[glass monolith]

Wasn't rain CC tagged like 2-3 years ago?

[lilac burrow]

Btw if you wanna avoid dealing with Talulah's fire thingy, she uses it once every 20 secs

You can bring yato gravel or jaye (jaye has 20sec redeployment so you can use it as a timer)

Just deploy 2 ops right before those 20 seconds to bait out the fire DOT

[elder flume]

Damn thats a giga buffed Jaye to have 20s timer

[lilac burrow]

It's either jaye or gravel

Can't remember

[elder flume]

Average merchant rdp is 35s

Its why Jaye users have to cope with adding Yato to the mix when CS isnt obtainable

[lilac burrow]

Yeah its prob gravel then

[lilac burrow]

Thats me rn

[glass monolith]

It is 2026, scam Talulah like it is 2026, Mitm or whatever his name FTW

#strategy message

[toxic flume]

Nah

It just Ursus

[glass monolith]

It is literally talulah escort stage, counterclockwise movement, exit in "middle", and i swear like 8/9 roadblocks even placed in same spot even if ranged/melee tile changed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Too narrow on right and mid, no ori tile and stair

[glass monolith]

Well whatever, second half is cancer

I need to kill traffic towers to spawn civilians out of them while their death explosion kill operators and other civilians and where DP lmao, and they killing other civilians and if you don't 1 hit them they end up stacking up on top of each other

[pearl compass]

You just kill them by their explosion is fucking hilarious

Most easiest map tho.

Gramaphones one is harder.

[elder flume]

Wheres your Lapp smh

Gram just depends on if your partner is grieving

[glass monolith]

I don't have either Ok i obtained 5* one but nope

[glass monolith]

100% second part is cancer

[pearl compass]

I literally lose Round 1 just because my teammate is passive and just laying at right side whole time.

But he's Student, so understandable.

[wicked minnow]

err....

[pearl compass]

But bruh, I cannot do everything alone.

[glass monolith]

Tech on gramaphone stage, game was rigged from start

[pearl compass]

But he does offered me to X2 Battle Time

Next time

And it's the same map

[wicked minnow]

x2 speed?

[pearl compass]

So he repeats the same strat

And I ragequited.

🥹

[wicked minnow]

[pearl compass]

Because fuck him

He doesn't learn

[elder flume]

Ive just been running Anastasio map and trying to trigger drown bug

I need 3 ranged tiles for Ange Shining Weedy and almost always i cant get all 3 up in time before occupied

[lapis hornet]

brug I just solo carried this dude and he wont even give me a thumbs up

what's this world come to smh my head

[scarlet fulcrum]

I always give thumbs up for this reason

can guess their game crashed, who knows

[daring escarp]

Imagine not carrying your student

[daring escarp]

Roaming squad ez solution

[hidden axle]

Idk I still play on beginner to braindead regular stages are boring to engqge with and encourage me to go higher and I heard boatrace js a pain

[lilac burrow]

Be less braindead Don't use 6 stars

[lilac burrow]

Mayer, wulfenite, Robin, doro

Summons can help capture gramaphones

[glass monolith]

There are 4 gramaphones stacked in corner where is only 1 ground tile and 1-2 ranged tile and ground tile get stepped by funny steal them back guys

And 4 in middle being camped by prespawns

[lilac burrow]

Hmm...

That's tough, do you have a helidrop that AOEs?

[glass monolith]

I have 3 ambushers, give me light and i will sugarcoat being attacked by 5 overlaps

[lilac burrow]

Honestly, I used bubble and gummy to capture the middle gramaphones

I think for the ones on the left, you can use ascalon + silence drone or smth

Or saria

[glass monolith]

So i guess you didn't roll mudrock colossus being healed by FIVE GRAMAPHONES version

[lilac burrow]

I got the ones with the healers from exu2 event

[glass monolith]

Sounds 10 times be.... Do they "heal" gramaphones in opposite direction?

[elder flume]

Ye for golem ver easiest is just Yu into Weedy into red box

[left egret]

How hard are these annihilations? Mostly doable with starter squad + meta borrow(exu2, wisadel, tragodia)?

[daring escarp]

Wisadel is enough for most of them

Except the yan one

[chrome burrow]

what is a good strat for dealing with all these drones on s5-3?

[daring escarp]

Having good anti-air sniper

[chrome burrow]

I don't really have any fr

[daring escarp]

Kroos

[glass monolith]

Accept death

[daring escarp]

Kroos alter

[chrome burrow]

not enough range, actually let me try one more idea

[daring escarp]

[glass monolith]

Are you using e0 snipers? Orient them better idk, feed bombs of bomb ones to Gravel

[left egret]

The first two yan annihilations require a good team or just wisadel can't handle them all? Because paddy field was done by learning mechanics and not borrowing any unit, but it was the easy one I suppose

[chrome burrow]

I tried placing kroos and alter back to back in the middle two spots but that still wasn't nearly enough

[daring escarp]

Paddy field is decently hard but the gimmick itself is hard part.
The hitcount one is pretty hard to do + dps

[chrome burrow]

I was borrowing a kroos alter as I don't have the resources to level or promote her

it's mainly the frost drones that are the problem

[naive holly]

Can I do ALL the annihilations with my squad?

[lofty stag]

Where are your mods

[naive holly]

Sir I am very poor

[fickle hill]

Wis cant handle all the hitcounts but shes enough to kill most/all of the waves
Ethan s1 takes care of the cleanup and the rest of the squad fills im the gaps

[pearl compass]

You know that Lappy can silence them and prevent farting ASPD down when she continuously hits them?

[fickle hill]

I dont see why you cant
Unless you tell me theyre all sl1 or something

[chrome burrow]

idk if I place lapp that far out she will die

[naive holly]

Lol

[pearl compass]

5 seconds should be enough to make her doing it reliably good.

[naive holly]

Saki is m3 , lemon is m2 , ascalon is m1 , mantra is m1

[pearl compass]

From what? Isn't bombtails comes from bottom air redboxes?

[naive holly]

Didn't m3 lemon cuz she needs to many mats

[lofty stag]

But you should

[chrome burrow]

there's bomb guys this stage?

[lofty stag]

At least eventually

[naive holly]

Yea I will

Lol

[fickle hill]

Schizo priorities

[naive holly]

My actual prio for now is

Lemon
Ascalon
Leizi

I just did that mantra in excitement

[pearl compass]

Should be, lul. Then I don't get it why Lappy should die.

[chrome burrow]

this seemed to work

support did the job

the bouncing attack really did work for the drones

[pearl compass]

It will be a problem with E1 Lappy, since her silence takes 1 second, which isn't reliable - drone will get disabled and then regained his ability back before Lappy deals next attack.

I was figured that out from handholding one Twitch dude in 5-7.

You must isolate Lappy forcing her to look at top wall and see only drone and nobody else.

Which is already cringe as it sounds.

But it's working. Kinda.

[chrome burrow]

narantuya s1 seems to put a lot of work in this early

especially when the bounce can leave her actual attack radius

[azure roost]

[hidden axle]

I need to raise 4 and 5 stars
Smh I have a long list of things to do on top of that

[rustic eagle]

I forgot but probably wis aoe shot or narantuya

And if there are bomb drones bait them with frd

[rustic eagle]

You guys all had way better teams than mine I want that cuora😭

Also may I ask how the steam knight targeting works or the one from the artilleries as well

When there are two units both at max %hp, it doesn’t seem to follow deployment order

Is it not or am I stupid

He snipes my mfing carry every single time

[daring escarp]

It means trial and error

[hidden axle]

Ch 11 steam knight right

[rustic eagle]

Yep

[wicked minnow]

you should be able to check from the enemy page

[daring escarp]

Except for the first time on a stage

[glass monolith]

Funny squares targets highest MAX HP but bombing in 3x3 zone targets highest CURRENT % HP

[wicked minnow]

it would be so funny if it was max hp

[rustic eagle]

I promise I did sum attempts but I still can’t control his targeting

[wicked minnow]

goodbye mlynar

[daring escarp]

Bait

[rustic eagle]

Yuh, I was wondering how does he choose between two Max HP units tho

[glass monolith]

Have more bodies in 3x3 to spread bombardment, ambushers might sugarcoat with 50% dodge

[daring escarp]

Or learn about aggro

[glass monolith]

Phase 2 select 2 but i believe does slightly less damage with each

[wicked minnow]

max hp as in the amount of hp they have when full not the % hp they have

he'll place his target on a unit with 3300 max hp over one with 2600 max hp regardless of how much current hp they have

unless he's targetting 2 seperate units

[rustic eagle]

Ohhh, so he selects the square over the greatest max HP and then selects the one with the greatest current HP?

[wicked minnow]

yes

[daring escarp]

Also they cant be on the same position yes

[rustic eagle]

I see

I guess that explains it

I didn’t understand it correctly

[glass monolith]

Each bombardment goes for highest current PERCENT hp. More units in range - More spread out it is. Mlynar taunt will get hit with first bullet with everything 100% HP but he won't be 100% afterwards so it will target next unit if possible. Specialized targetting cares for deploy order/taunt only when resolving draws

[rustic eagle]

May I ask btw if it’s global range

Cuz iirc ingame it says nearby

[daring escarp]

Group up your team so you won't be bombarded too bad. Also cancel his charge with crowd control

[rustic eagle]

But it felt global and wiki doesn’t indicate range

[glass monolith]

I dont recall exact wording, maybe nearby refer to 3x3, lock on should be global

[rustic eagle]

I don’t know what has more Hp than lappalt in my units

Probably only the radian summons

Should be much easier now, tysm and sorry for my mistake

[hidden axle]

You can filter by hp

[daring escarp]

Oh well they are if you use s1

[glass monolith]

Execute Rat King level of cheating of "actually checking your units"

[rustic eagle]

I mean I will check but I’m afraid I’m right

It’s okay tho radian summons should be enough

Actually no wtf am I saying

I guess I’m getting the timing wrong or smth

Well I know now at least

[scarlet fulcrum]

yeah not having higher hp than lappalt looks weird, so yea aggro with raidian summon somewhere else when he fly, b4 also fine

[rustic eagle]

Yuh now I got it🙏

[rustic eagle]

Yes narantuya S1 solos the stage

I did have blockers but I’m not even sure I needed them

[hollow turtle]

Do you guys think I should remove the summon from wis's left and then placing ptilo on it and then hoshi2 -> saria next to each other on the bottom lane, bit far from exu2 from mechs/mortar aoe and run it?

it worked

at such a cost tho wtf

idk how'd my wis died, ruined that run

or well stage but stil lwent through

[river atlas]

bottom lane should be holdable using only tragodia cats + wisadel

If u need a bit of support on the bottom side u can occasionally toss like a gravel to nudge the fortbreaker back a tile or a defender maybe

otherwise, tragodia’s cat should be disabling them from atking until wisadel can kill them

[prisma ledge]

Or Kalstit, can lanehold them well I think

[river atlas]

Did u place elysium last

[daring escarp]

https://b23.tv/WvBETdG

3ops

[hollow turtle]

okay im back anyways

hoshi2 is down idk why

I thought it refreshes or shortens all cds

guess not

better screenshot

i need to save sash to reveal the other boss

this might be a challenging puzzle for some of yalll hoh hoh

[prisma ledge]

Its called #strategy for a tower defense game

[hollow turtle]

exactly

😈

also 😩

yall think. lemuen and wisadel and exu2 all shot their shot enough for the bear to enter 2nd phase?

or hmm..

maybe if I place tragodia early, then wisadel burst cuz it stuns.

but thats not enough amp time

afterwards is difficult due to dp issue here

oh wait I forgot ulpi is there

hmm

he does stun upon impact

@daring escarp

could work with the burst

[daring escarp]

I think you should kill the yurodstvo first

[hollow turtle]

the bear will literally walk

its always the bear first

also cuz I have no source of tp

[elder flume]

Just use miners

Bait Yuro attacks so miners can go up

Bait bear up to meet Yuro

[hollow turtle]

curses yall

I think the reason this failed is cuz of hoshi2 not being able to get back up in 2nd phase

sigh

and since everyone is wiped to not tank the butterlfies and yuro's shots, its ggs

everyone would just get sniped/deleted

and th ebutterflies can enter blue box and take hp

I dont have enough utility units I guess

even tho I have a few meta units, but my exu2 doesnt have s3m3

and the guides are wayyy to micro-managing for me to follow

I guess I'll just wait till I get haruka

[plucky flint]

you don't need s3m3

[hollow turtle]

micro stuff

[plucky flint]

what kind of micro are you even doing for this kind of stage

[hollow turtle]

no clue but even a small misstep is cause of failure

[plucky flint]

you use s3 for its utility and the only thing that change from it is initial sp +5 from sl7 to m3

if you're telling me you need the bit of damage then you're doing something wrong

[hollow turtle]

initial sp I guess? id oubt its becuz of the s3m3 but something is wrong

idk the guides are weird and tight

my 1st attempt was the closest, the guides just giving me bad influence atp

[plucky flint]

is the guide you're watching is like using 3 ops or something?

if guide is using less than 12 ops then that's the answer, bring more body or dp generating ops so you can compromise for the thing you're missing in the guide

you don't copy guides to a T

[fringe solstice]

how did you beat 16-12?

[noble pewter]

bro has all the units needed to win already, just use trag cat its all over, silverash reveal, wis nuke, lemuen nuke, stall bear with gravel n cat let rage run out, tank with hoshi exu shield yada yada

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u really playing ch16, it's hard to lose with those ops ye

[plucky grove]

you retreated hoshitter before the phase change so it didnt shorten the cd lmao

[vocal leaf]

isn’t better to borrow og hoshi for the stall?

[fringe solstice]

I ended up using og hoshi because I couldn't figure out how to stall the bear so I just did what I did in 16-12

[plucky flint]

with those ops it really doesn't matter

[hollow turtle]

Idk maybe im not used to these ops yet or something

Ive beaten ch16-14 on another account but thats becuz yu and ines carried in phase2 and haruka for stall

[hollow turtle]

It doesnt seem as easy since theres three paths for the cat choice.
Wisadel isnt invulnerable just camoflauge can still be hit by aoe.
Lemuens nuke isnt enough for the bear (but yuro)
Dmg wise im fine, just the timing is impeccably difficult for me for some reason

And these guides are way to fast to comprehend or well intake. Its not one of those guides where they show arrows and subtitles on significant steps

Either way I should be able to beat it, matter of time. Its just stressful with this one.

[river atlas]

while wis isn't invulnerable, she shouldn't be in a position to be targetted to begin with

[plucky flint]

why and how is wis even dying in the first place

[azure roost]

she ded

thats why

[plucky flint]

[noble pewter]

bro probably attracting light artillery fire with the wis spawns

[hollow turtle]

Her summons

[hollow turtle]

Yeah

I have to time it right and I mess up sometimes

Cuz I need wisadel’s big boom boom there and there

keke

[elder flume]

i cant try it cuz havent beaten H16 1

if bait done right all 5 hits will only hit bait even though retreated during 3 hits

making miners take no damage

until eventually they light up top for SA to hit bear once and bear aggro

[vocal leaf]

“stressful” and the stage is literally just deploy tank and wait

[fringe solstice]

The annoying part is if you want to test stuff you have to beat 56 enemies to get to phase 2

[hollow turtle]

i honestly havent tried og hoshi just yet, that might fix all my problems

[river atlas]

What is there even to test

[elder flume]

just running phase 2 with baits until miner goes up

[river atlas]

Some random observations

You’re deploying silverash too many times

running up his DP cost for no reason is sabotaging your p2 dp, you shouldnt need to deploy him more than once for p1

I dont see an exu beacon placed or in the deploy bar either

Are you running exualt s2 lmao

[bright juniper]

exualt s2 in micro management hell is crazy

[sharp pine]

how to deal with anastasio in coop event?

[elder flume]

spawncamp

gets dr when near cannon and unblocked

[full terrace]

Oh man.. we finally get this Ark no knights playing as Reunion

It's been a year since then

[sharp pine]

how

[elder flume]

uh damage on the 4 tiles ?

[azure roost]

@hidden axle

ngl i prob do ending 2 when i reach d7

[hazy sinew]

d4 poor baby

[hidden axle]

Do from d5

[azure roost]

[weary quail]

weak
do at d10

[azure roost]

[odd arrow]

Who's best pick here?

I'm newbie

[weary quail]

or 12 or 15

[weary quail]

check pins

[odd arrow]

Where?

[hidden axle]

Beginner guide in #help pins (roadless camelot section)

[azure roost]

i doubt i even reach d10

[hidden axle]

keep getting raidian proficiencies

[hidden axle]

Yomi this is strategy

[azure roost]

oh ye koo

[median shard]

dont worry it's called passion and hard try

[azure roost]

what is the 6 candleguest

on raidian proficiencies

[hidden axle]

Erm lighting candles for operators

[median shard]

you're like me before addicted on diff 11+, or other than ed1

[weary quail]

via pathfinder node

[hidden axle]

The shit you do in pathfinder nodes

[azure roost]

@hidden axle scroll of scars?

it is the ed2?

[median shard]

yes

[azure roost]

For other proficiencies, Yi must be finished by Raidian or her summon. I can either let other operators weaken him first or have Raidian/her summon deal all the damage?

🤔

[hidden axle]

Raidian/her summon has to deal the finishing hit

Who does the rest of the finishing is upto you

[azure roost]

i see

[median shard]

stall Yi with defender, and use raidian skill 2

[azure roost]

both phase?

[median shard]

2nd phase

[azure roost]

i see

[median shard]

just need to time it correctly to activate her skill

[cinder scaffold]

Olden site zut whatever in the reclamation protocol, are you supposed to block the thing and what use barriers to mitigate or am I missing something here?

[hidden axle]

#reclamation-algorithm-hub would know better

We jist farm glowsticks

[rose sentinel]

is an executor like Texas alter really necessary for theresis-theresa in Is5 ending?

if not, what OP/archetypes are necessary to have aside from wisadel

[astral cosmos]

absolutely not, you don't even draft executioners at all

i mean, aside from gravel

[sterile delta]

all you need is gravel and an agent

or some way of getting dp i guess

[astral cosmos]

deepcolor is also a choice

[rose sentinel]

I'm having trouble with those shadow clones

[sterile delta]

whats your plan for killing p2

[astral cosmos]

you can use summons to block the balls

[sterile delta]

usually your dps operators and agent will take those out

your strategy depends on how you're planning on dealing with p2 though

are you using true damage, elemental damage, or brute forcing with physical

[rose sentinel]

is Amiya guard 1 time skill enough?

[sterile delta]

no

[vital arrow]

no

[sterile delta]

ed2 uses castermiya

[rose sentinel]

it takes too long to charge, my smooth brain can't.

alright, I'll try.

so I need to prio summoners to block slash attacks or deal with them with DPS. Radian 1st skill can block those?

[sterile delta]

you cant block the slash attacks

[rose sentinel]

squad limit recommendation?

[sterile delta]

you need to be killing the shadows that will hit your operators

what diff is this

and do you happen to own feater

[rose sentinel]

diff 1 or 2?

[sterile delta]

hm

you dont own mon3tr or kaltsit right

[rose sentinel]

Ines, Reedmedic, SA, Ascalon,

I borrow Wis

[sterile delta]

id try and brute force here with wis i guess

she needs to deal a bit over 1 million damage to kill him on d2

squad wise uh

[rose sentinel]

i perhaps made it difficult cos my squad limit was only around 5-6

[sterile delta]

yea thats a bit cooked

do you have a tragodia and is his s3m3

no greyyalt either i presume?

its technically doable with 5-6 squad slots i guess

tragodia, wis, amiya, gravel, agent, krooster or any ranged unit really

technically with tragodia you dont even need gravel

[hidden axle]

Eckogen and kyo IS guides are for casuals, sure they work out at low diff but half of those ops are not something you draft optimally

[azure roost]

koo pro

where my m9 raidian

[undone herald]

M9 Raidian is never more than 24 hours away

[rapid junco]

My radian lvl 1. Very pog

[daring escarp]

Raidian deserves to be maxed

[chrome burrow]

I could use some advice on how to clear H5-1, it's mainly the final wave of drones that is the problem as they overwhelm and kill the majority of my ops and destroy the jammer

[hidden axle]

Have you raised your ops

[toxic flume]

Ah yes

This one is kinda annoying back then

[hidden axle]

H stages are meant to be extra hard
While modern units can demolosh these old h stages, you with your infantile roster is far from tackling them

[hidden axle]

Unless you want to copy some low end clear that is

[toxic flume]

Well for chapter 11 it very easy

[hidden axle]

Speaking for the average player

[pearl compass]

Blame the SteamKnight being the easy boss

[hidden axle]

[pearl compass]

[toxic flume]

[hidden axle]

Domt underestimate the average player's struggles

[hidden axle]

Yeah go raise ops
And have you raised base slaves

[toxic flume]

But well ch 12 Advance is another lv somehow

[chrome burrow]

i'm still upgrading the base

[toxic flume]

Like how tf that tank missle can Solo mudrock

[hidden axle]

Haruka it

Tho yeah I heard back im the day it was hell

[hidden axle]

Raising base slaves can go hand-in-hand with working on base

[chrome burrow]

is it worth spending sanity to expedite upgrading the base?

[toxic flume]

Yk i stuck at frosNova for 2 weeks

Until WisAdel exits

[hidden axle]

As in converting sanity to drones? No

[hidden axle]

Omw to start a ban wis for gem content club

[sterile delta]

just barely survived

now I'm afraid what h16-4 has in store for me

[bright juniper]

true dmg

[toxic flume]

Again?

[bright juniper]

mudrock is carried by her shield stacks

[toxic flume]

Ch 10 alr have ICMB that deal around 3K true damage

[bright juniper]

oh ch12 mot ch10

[toxic flume]

I talking about the tank thing that carry missiles

[pearl compass]

[bright juniper]

well the mobile artilleries deal arts dmg and multi-hit

[pearl compass]

||Yurostvo and Cocaine Bear together||

[bright juniper]

mudrock is carried by shield stacks and shield gets melted by multi-hit

[chrome burrow]

so should I spend resources on levelling them instead of my combat ops?

[toxic flume]

Also can someone explain why this fucker can walk through pillar?

[pearl compass]

Honestly, I'm clueless, but cope about trying defend two lanes at same time.

Because you just cannot push it into one single.

H9-5 is weirder.

Believe me.

[toxic flume]

I trust you

It actually pain at H9-6

[hidden axle]

Raising base slaves is one of the first things you should be doing

[sterile delta]

who are the core units in h16-4?

almost all guides require both haruka and hoshialter

both of which I do not have

[toxic flume]

But honestly defending only 1 lane is alot easier since i alr Got Haruka and m3 healing and yu can clear these enemies with out using skill so easily

[hidden axle]

Borrow yu make bear and yurodstiva fight each other on map 2

[glass monolith]

Fartooth, Miksaparato (#strategy message), change my mind

[sterile delta]

I already have yu, it's survivability I'm worried about

[toxic flume]

Ngl i saw a best position to deploy WisAdel in 2 seconds

[sterile delta]

especially in phase 1 since I have to deal with 3 lanes

[toxic flume]

Oh wait Eunec and Cs combo??

[glass monolith]

Well it was my OG plan until my ability to time shit didn't work and i just Fia Grandpa S2 entire bear phase 1

[toxic flume]

Why it doesn't work?

That combo should infinite stun

[glass monolith]

Because i Suuuuuuuuuuuuuck at timing

[toxic flume]

[toxic flume]

Oh fair enough

[glass monolith]

Also phase 1 bear does ranged attacks so i have to somehow get Eun to block him, and shit literally oneshots if not stunned

[toxic flume]

No phase2

It throws rock

[glass monolith]

Phase 2 is last thing on my issue list

And Haruka got stoned for her bubbles

[toxic flume]

Btw does your Crownslayer S3M3 and mod3?

[glass monolith]

Yes

[toxic flume]

Ok

[glass monolith]

Don't take away my inability to time stuff

[toxic flume]

Bc if it not Crownslayer will suck imminently

Since she required S3M3 and mod 3 to stun loop

I actually try bc it lost a lot of materials

But result is yeah i need to S3M3 and mod3

[nocturne cove]

🍿

[fossil sphinx]

🍿

[sterile delta]

go away

[proud bluff]

My guy schrodin getting pulled against his will

🥹

[sterile delta]

[pearl compass]

So, where we did stop

[sterile delta]

now actually

[pearl compass]

Ah yes, you ain't getting why Eblana is here

[sterile delta]

zzz

[proud bluff]

Where it was supposed to stop
We don't need to go further into this

[nocturne cove]

your phrasing is wrong

thats all

[pearl compass]

But actually, the whole point is he has big ass HP, so he's tanky as well.

[nocturne cove]

[pearl compass]

But... why Eblana S3 slave isn't a competitor then?

[sterile delta]

he also has a stun and dodges right through windup attacks like tlsk

eblana's summon straight up cant be healed without mobs

[pearl compass]

Ok, Stun Immune Boss and you're on cooldown, now what?

[proud bluff]

Well skill issue

Or use something else than ulpi

[pearl compass]

OMG

That's my whole idea

[proud bluff]

Like wisadel vs 5k def, now what

[sterile delta]

his skill cycle is one of the most flexible ones in the game

[proud bluff]

Wisadel has bad damage ig

[sterile delta]

quite literally a skill issue

[bright juniper]

this just sounds like whale hate agenda

[pearl compass]

But I was like antishilled Ulpipi

For no reason

smh dudes

[proud bluff]

At least "antishill" him for the right reason, not survivability

[nocturne cove]

every op will get shafted in anti-op kit environment

[proud bluff]

And don't promote gladiia so much when she's ass

[river atlas]

I dont understand this conversation at all

[bright juniper]

gladiia shill with ulpi “anti-shill”

[sterile delta]

wtf is an antishill

[pearl compass]

Well, the dude asked about her, so I delivered, from my exp as well.

[proud bluff]

🥹

[bright juniper]

just hating

basically

[nocturne cove]

aight imma continue reading dorohedoro

🏃‍♂️

[pearl compass]

Like ReChord already told me to not promo Gladiia.

[river atlas]

Oh this is a conversation from help ok

[bright juniper]

using anecdotal advice

bruh

[river atlas]

I was rereading the channel history several times and so confused why ulp was suddenly being mentioned

[pearl compass]

The starting point is how's Gladiia.

He said he has Ulpipi and he wanted to max battle potential from her.

[proud bluff]

The correct answer is that gladiia doesn't do much for ulpi in the first place
Not that ulpi is paper thin without her

[hexed zodiac]

Would’ve ended the whole discussion if we asked him “would you rather a buffed Wis or two wis’s?” Don’t raise gladiia

[bright juniper]

and then you proceeded to say he’s paper without gladiia

[pearl compass]

Like, where I did wrong tho?

[bright juniper]

have you been tuning out for the past 20 minutes

😭

[hexed zodiac]

Something something the massive HP pool of ulipi

[sterile delta]

i mean you recced raising gladiia to kill dogs

[proud bluff]

Like are we for real
30% DR and 210 hps is like using a fucking medic

[bright juniper]

once again, like i’ve said many times before

[sterile delta]

apparently medics are an extinct species

[proud bluff]

Tf is going to go through 13k hp in one go

[bright juniper]

just use sanctuary

[pearl compass]

K, like, tank Ursus Titans in H16-3.

[sterile delta]

not like ulpi has the ability to teleport to and from a medic at will

[bright juniper]

if you need dmg res that bad just use sanctuary, benefits more than just ulpi

[pearl compass]

Oh yeah, teleport, but there's some maps with tile bans, like Ep16 mechanics.

[hexed zodiac]

“K like insert niche outlier to justify why I’m right”

[proud bluff]

Or, y'know, as was mentioned multiples times, avoid the damage altogether
Plot twist, tile ban doesn't remove his iframes

You can do it twice per skill cycle

and y'know, you can always, just use a medic instead of gladiia
Or if you want a body with it, a saria ( ) or a shu

All those options benefiting your other ops instead of only ulpianus

Skill cycle being 25s, let's just put that here, because you brought that up a lot

[bright juniper]

all ops are bad cause can’t oneshot theresa

[sterile delta]

tragodia sucks ass because he cant lure or cage stationary bosses

[glass monolith]

(Looks on Tragodia solo H14-4)

[wicked minnow]

fellas

what even is the argument here

[bright juniper]

gladiia shill while ulpi hate

[sterile delta]

ulpianus survivability

[bright juniper]

and then devolved into this

[wicked minnow]

ulpianus less survivable than uhhhhh. ummmm uhhhhhhhh

sankta miksa

my goat

obviously

so bad operator

🗣️

[sterile delta]

you cant compare him to miksa thats unfair

[proud bluff]

He's not a guard

[wicked minnow]

ulpianus isnt a defender either

[sterile delta]

no one can compare to the goat

[wicked minnow]

exactlyyyy

[lilac burrow]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER?!?? 🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥

[wicked minnow]

🗣️

🔥

[pearl compass]

I really isn't getting the line "ulpipi is tanky shit" cause it wasn't right either, but I agreed to use other ops to actually compete a tank role.

[proud bluff]

But no one said ulpi is a tank
I just can't wrap my head around how you reach "ulpi is paper ass survivability" in the first place, is all

[bright juniper]

and why you decided to use anecdotal advice

when have anecdotes been an objective concrete measure for an operator’s performance

[glass monolith]

"But can i Quartz stall it"

[hexed zodiac]

Especially since S3 activation is so faster after deployment he shouldn’t be dying before hand making him feel like “paper ass survivability”

[sterile delta]

quartz is op

[fossil sphinx]

many are not familiar with quartz + tin man to stall theresis

[glass monolith]

THE WHAT?

[hexed zodiac]

Exactly can’t use outliers to justify a generality

[sterile delta]

quartz tinman vs kos theresis 🗣️

[astral cosmos]

[fossil sphinx]

it’s a disassembled hoederer

[pearl compass]

We gonna move to other channel?

Or just shut up completely?

[proud bluff]

Don't make me go to #arknights i beg you 🥹

[pearl compass]

I hate non-AK gifs ban rule, you're safe here.

[elder flume]

Ulpi E1 1 vs E0 1 isnt that different huh

[toxic flume]

[astral cosmos]

@hollow turtle literally just use my Bison

[hollow turtle]

does your bison work? 😭

[astral cosmos]

well, would 2.3k def work?

[hollow turtle]

also I dont have u friended on this account

[hollow turtle]

oh my okay

[astral cosmos]

ReChord#9454

bison is giga goated so

[hollow turtle]

added

[hollow turtle]

hell yeahh

[astral cosmos]

added, gl

[hollow turtle]

which skill?

i think s1 would be good cuz early cast right?

[astral cosmos]

if you want 2.3k def s2 is the skill
not that much difference with s1 though, so if around 2k def works s1 is the skill. it has a better cycle though less duration than s2

[hollow turtle]

kay

[pearl compass]

Tanking the Cocaine Bear, I see?

[astral cosmos]

yep

[pearl compass]

<BearCam.gif>

[astral cosmos]

bison propaganda, you see
hoshi1 is fraud
bison is goated

[pearl compass]

🥹

You vote for him only because he's a boy, not a girl smh smh

Actually wouldn't mind if that works.

[hollow turtle]

hey yall

should I place exu2 or lemuen

next to wisadel

which has better cycle/burst

[astral cosmos]

I havent even started ch16

can't tell

[hollow turtle]

oof

darn maybe I should've went exu2 s3

[astral cosmos]

and these are 6* I havent even normally used once

[hollow turtle]

[pearl compass]

Exu2 is S3?

[pearl compass]

Ah

[hollow turtle]

not in this moment no

[pearl compass]

Lemon then.

[hollow turtle]

okay

I was about to say, s2 has barrier

but then again idkkk

[pearl compass]

Wait I don't see heal

Maybe Exu2 will be good indeed.

[hollow turtle]

hm

[pearl compass]

I'm so tempted to lure the bear to the woman.

And do the funny thing.

[hollow turtle]

HOLY SHIII I COOKED

for a price

@astral cosmos BISON

IS

DA GOAT

[pearl compass]

You still have to beat his Phase 2

And woman is about to leave.

[hollow turtle]

gg I fucked up

LOL

I forgot about dominion

it killed my sash

my only way to hit it

thats some bitch ass move

cooked 💔

WAIT WAIT

ELYSIUM

gave me dp

AND

I placed lemuen and after it wisade'ls summon

for dominion aggro

and bear aggro

my sash cd is about to be done

due to his passive and mod3

SHEEEESH

[pearl compass]

[hollow turtle]

chat, i didnt know dominion was aoe

or did the butterfly came right after her dominion

cuz like it

spewed on my lemon

[pearl compass]

The reason why we suggest SilverAsh as starter whole time.

[hollow turtle]

wisadel is not enough dps

fuck

CHAT

[pearl compass]

Yeah

[hollow turtle]

BOSS DOWN

I REPEAT BOSS DOWN

HOWEVER THE BEAR...

[pearl compass]

Phase 2 is easy to tank

[daring escarp]

Da ber

[pearl compass]

Bison should make him stuck.

[hollow turtle]

I had to retreat trag for that dp

omg

[daring escarp]

Imagine using s2

[hollow turtle]

thats what im doing

[hollow turtle]

it worked tho

¯_(ツ)_/¯

gravel is also goat

bison died

idk how

I DID IT

I FUCKING DID IT

GG

[pearl compass]

gg

[hollow turtle]

1st ATTTEMPT TODAy (total was like 11 times)

huge ass smile rn, all that shi took so much tight timing and placement

[daring escarp]

rawr

gg*

[hollow turtle]

true mvp was exu s2 les be fr

or well bison for the bear stall

[astral cosmos]

facts, my brother!! spit your shit indeed!!

[pearl compass]

[hollow turtle]

bison was my og hoshi, plus he is 19 dp cheap!! five star, meaning material is less taxing!! truly da goat. Im investing his ass. I even got the same skin.

mood killer

I can ping a mod for this right

oh he did it in #salt-mines too

this is happening a lot more frequently

@astral cosmos ❗

[astral cosmos]

right

[vocal leaf]

could spend in miksa instead, he was the real free replacement for hoshi, since he can’t die, but if you want to spend less mats, bison sounds great

[sterile delta]

this should work easily

surely you noticed this right

[astral cosmos]

a well timed wisadel skill refreshing the revenants will bait that easily

[lofty stag]

People know how to refresh Wis summons right 🥹

[sterile delta]

id rather just bring two frds and have wis summons up for deathless inferno but that works too ya

[pearl compass]

[sterile delta]

hopefully they're aware that they need to retreat the summons if they get set on fire before dbs detonates them

[pearl compass]

As I remember, if SuperTalulah will do cross attack on ignite targets

It will ignite Camo Wis as well.

[sterile delta]

yes

[pearl compass]

And she has very ass 50 SP cost to work as bait creator.

[hollow turtle]

am I watching chess but arknights version. How do I get access to this

[slender nimbus]

bro idk what to tell you logos S3 dont work on those fireballs

i have tried it 5 times

[sterile delta]

[elder flume]

did you trigger it when Tal dies

aka when she hits 0 hp immediately

[slender nimbus]

after while they where on the screen

[elder flume]

thats your problem then

supposed to be before

the alternative is uh

gambling 10% removal from Yu S3

[sterile delta]

you need to time it somewhat

[sterile delta]

its prts map
https://map.ark-nights.com/

@astral cosmos

if you mess up the timing you may need to use your frds to tank a couple but its pretty lenient

[odd forge]

I cast

Fireball

[glass monolith]

I cast counter spell Blacknight S2 #strategy message

[simple tapir]

What's the hard stage in chapter 10 that I should be worried about?

[sterile delta]

there isnt really one

[fringe solstice]

you face the boss 3 times

[plucky flint]

just nuke him with his own artillery

[regal briar]

is Raidian the most powerful free operator?

[pearl compass]

In IS6 yes.

[hidden axle]

In is6 yes

[pearl compass]

Mid elsewhere.

[regal briar]

how about on other IS?

[pearl compass]

Also mid.

[maiden hound]

outside of is6 she probably still is the most powerful free operator in 90%+ of cases tbh

[modern plover]

You can use radian for trust farm

[rose sentinel]

Is there a way to increase the chance of getting lost treasure encounter in IS5

[rose sentinel]

No, but if you lack powerful casters and snipers in your squad, she can probably help you throughout your main story progress

[glass monolith]

Raidian strength is being resource free (outside irl sanity on is6 where she helps winning)

[naive holly]

go-ex-8

[elder flume]

why are there 2 drones at once and mr throne not damaged at all

[pearl compass]

Should be piece of cake.

Ya have Gladiia by chance?

[somber falcon]

doesn't even need glad

just kill alistair with ulpi and sakiko

[pearl compass]

Btw HoshiAlter skill is wrong, should be S3.

[naive holly]

i kinda use her as a laneholder

[elder flume]

lanehold with S3 is fine too

[pearl compass]

That's not good.

[naive holly]

e1lv40

[pearl compass]

Ok, HoshiAlter will tank SteamKnight then.

Use Ulpipi on Alister.

[naive holly]

ok

[pearl compass]

Kill drones from afar bottom side, Lemuen or Naratunya.

[naive holly]

when drone comes fast

they just get bombed

my healers

are kinda unable to sustain

[glass monolith]

Murder drones

[naive holly]

hm

[naive holly]

i did do that

eh ill just do this level later

[somber falcon]

it's not a matter of sustain
last knight hits for ~6k with skill
none of your ops can tank it, your only option is timing ulpi's stun

or hit him so hard he just spams rocket instead

[naive holly]

got it

[glass monolith]

Not so Last Knight skill does like 2700 physical 3 times in short time frame

But it is offensive recovery 3 or 4 SP which can be abused with "Arts" drop for disarm on skill which can be spammed by reapers and some other characters

[elder flume]

S3L7 does that much ig

[heavy lichen]

Does anyone have a strategy for the adverse environment 10-15? I had a few plans but it doesn't seem to work

[elder flume]

pick between Necrass Hoshi2 Entel Ling Raidian

shame only standard is solo cleared for now

[toxic flume]

Fun fact challenge mode the king boss attack range become global

[naive holly]

[prisma ledge]

Wasn't that hard to bait tbh

[hidden axle]

Damn tbjs went unanswered its the same as always, bait cannon with enemies around to take em out

GO is a joke event yeah, unless you are a newbie you shouodnt struggle

[limpid ore]

the actual boss being The Last Steam Knight from chapter 11 being brought to ex stage

[heavy lichen]

the thing not even in it i belive because even after disctruct hoshi would die because of lack heal most likely but i also cant afford to put there something or one enemy will sneak in

[hidden axle]

https://youtu.be/UePZVS1a7wU?si=dId6yolRldxemhzZ

https://youtu.be/R4LV_Am32XQ?si=ye6vhJwJqzAoahJp

https://youtu.be/dEjK5jzrZ_o?si=R78JxsxDpRy5IsmO

I hope you know you don't copy guides 1:1, replqce ops usrd with similar ops that fulfoll the required role

[heavy lichen]

oki

[full terrace]

Oh I kinda miss this gamemode, let's gooo

[naive holly]

go-ex-8 is so hard

ill do it later

[elder flume]

you either hard focus boss to make life easier or silence him if you cant damage him before explosion

and just abusing arts gear

[hidden axle]

[naive holly]

im a newbie

[hidden axle]

I did say 'unelss you are a newbje'

[naive holly]

am i dumb or this is hard

15-14

nvm

done

[maiden hound]

glad to be of help

[dapper rain]

moral support is important

[full terrace]

This gamemode is actually pretty funny 😂

I prefer Soccer tho

[odd forge]

[daring escarp]

Nasti and stainless have insane synergy with zima alter

Stainless on s3 makes her gain sp entire time to cycle already fast cycle s3, which binds pretty much

And range of ranged shockwaves is op if the walls doesnt stop

4 walls close to her shockwaves already charges sp like crazy

6 walls close is 5-6 sp per shockwave/hit

[glass monolith]

As person with Stainless and plans to pull Nasti I see it as absolute "pobeda" (victory)

[weak gazelle]

time to shill nasti

[glass monolith]

I'm at point of game where meta doesn't matter anymore, need them niches

[glass monolith]

(Fuze s2 skill sounds in background)

[weak gazelle]

haha
well, me too for most part
only use strongest ops when map demand it (which i never encounter it)

maybe melee only is the play for next 6 months

[glass monolith]

Yea, "never"

[weak gazelle]

never reach that map

i just suspect 5* only breeze it like usual

[glass monolith]

I dropped h15 on that map, because I hate boss, come back after h16 to cover up skill issue with newer units

[river atlas]

?

[glass monolith]

I can think and properly deal with "dog". Or 11 bullet Lemuen S3 under Warf goes brrrr

[river atlas]

What does stainless s3 have to do with zima s3

[glass monolith]

Stainless s3 is summon able enemy, well I don't know context of what zima2 does to synergy with it

[fossil sphinx]

its to give her something to smacK
basically the same thing as giving thorns something to charge with

[weak gazelle]

i just need to find a way to fasten zima2 s3 cycle

[glass monolith]

Is she offensive recovery? Her funny S3 or whatever make all those funny shockwaves seemed like Blaze S3 - doesn't care for target during skill

[weak gazelle]

normal sp/s

[fossil sphinx]

normal sp/s but her s2 has a passive that gives her sp for every shockwave

otherwise you have to normally wait out like 50 sp or something