strategy

[lost hollow]

Her cuteness is the only reason why she is there.

[hidden axle]

Wow minus is goated

Okay uh let me open ak

After 5 mins

[lost hollow]

I pulled it off

The red bull really kicked in.

[hidden axle]

right when I opened my ak smh

[hidden axle]

[lost hollow]

I might've been using her like garvel

That 30 second redevelopment time is insane

[lost hollow]

Sorry

[nocturne cove]

forgot to do

had to use all of them

💀

[lost hollow]

That's one stacked team.

[nocturne cove]

im missing ascalon

[naive holly]

That is what I did too in some ch 10 stage lol

[thick sphinx]

Lmfao

[naive holly]

I was stalling with myrtle lmaoo

[naive holly]

Cool team

[naive holly]

Oh you had to deploy her again too?

Yeah I didn't

[lost hollow]

I had to use her 3 times.

She put herself in harms way like a good soldier.

[naive holly]

Lol

[craggy heron]

you could cut this team in half and they still gonna win

[daring escarp]

More like 2/3 of the team

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351840867685498893/1373188522080473128/718231e9c9d7ecc59bdeeabd6d54d5ca1788205288.gif

[nocturne cove]

i dont wanna use my brain

time to sleep

🛌

[full terrace]

Ah brute forced. Ping me when the Icebreaker Games is here

Shileds my brother, dont you erase me from your friendlist. 3d offline I'm still playing okay 😂
Who knows I might be needing your Rockrock or something

[glass monolith]

April Fools Icebreaker.
Aak? Aak.

[full terrace]

It's April Fools Rossi for me but yeah I kinda miss Icebreaker I'll prob play more once it's here

[daring escarp]

I thought it was already pvp

[full terrace]

That game mode has special place in my heart

[glass monolith]

I had teammate doing Silence Alter S3 + Aak S3 on your units

[full terrace]

Good teammate 👍

[royal hamlet]

Everyone wants to use Aak s3 to merc others' ops, I want Aak because I want to rapid fire Sankta S3 at my enemies.

[lean kraken]

https://www.krooster.com/u/edonpryde

Having trouble with H16-2, don't know if I have anything that can survive or heal through phase 1 bear. tried borrowing hoshi, or tanking with my hoshi alter and borrowing shu, or borrowing haruka lol. nothing seems to be able to survive the bear though, any thoughts?

[full terrace]

Asca slow, Tragodia cat bait

Perma loop on that place

Take your time dpsing him

[lean kraken]

don't have asca or tragodia, might have another slower that might work, suzuran maybe

[full terrace]

One of them is enough if you throw bodies to help

Both is overkill

[lean kraken]

ah

[full terrace]

If you are going to run Suzuran then take Tragodia

[daring escarp]

Where is warf s2

[hollow turtle]

I returned but, idk what do here now

no dp

and tragodia died to crossfire

and I did the ines thing right

I just didnt know how to safely keep my miners going when the butterfly is aoe for me to aggro and tank it

espcially when the dp costs are so high

wait I just thought of something

ines reveal the boss (not the bear), and I could use Yu's s2

omg

🤯

fuck man, ines die

[craggy heron]

you might wanna use a medic as a healer instead of haruka

[rustic eagle]

miner healing?

[craggy heron]

mostly to heal miners and help them light up the above path

yep

after that just bait the bear to get to that path

[daring escarp]

Why didnt you bait the bear to yuro

[hollow turtle]

omg omg I did it

idk how

but I did it

now lets see how it goes..

GUYS

IM DOING IT

IMA CTUALLY DOING IT

also holy black orb

wth

[craggy heron]

[hollow turtle]

LESS GOO

I wanna kiss some of you

[rocky rivet]

how do you setup haruka in time for second phase h16-4

[hollow turtle]

well shes a cheap operator to place and I have her s3m3 so it was like 7 seconds to drop her and use her

[rocky rivet]

like to loop her to second cast is more than 7 sec

the bear reaches u first

[daring escarp]

Ines + haruka easy stall at the beginning tbh

[glass monolith]

Also entering phase 2 with more than 0 DP helps

[rocky rivet]

no ines

[hollow turtle]

I always thought of using yu (and ines for reveal) to at the far right, but it never crossed my mind to put them up front. It helped baiting the butterflies AND drag the boss early so I have enough time for the bear to stay phase 1 and kill the boss.

[daring escarp]

Then setup haruka and put defender

[rocky rivet]

but the defender dies if you dont have haruka second cast lol

[daring escarp]

Then try to setup to bait the bear

[daring escarp]

Eh

[rocky rivet]

thats what im asking, what are some strategies to bait the bear

[hollow turtle]

wdym? it has 60% sanctuary and levitates the bear

[daring escarp]

https://b23.tv/nnu69XR

[hollow turtle]

I didnt bait him at first, I focused on dragging the boss on the left. But I "stalled" him using haruka's s3 while setting up yu and ines on the right (thank god for her range expand)

after haruka s3 ended, I had tragodia setup

and then just mylnar taking out bears phase 1

afterwards, haruka should setup for 2nd phase of the bear. If not, you can use exu2 and another operator to tank it with her shield

which was enough time for me to get haruka up

but it didnt matter cuz the bear died effortlessly

[rocky rivet]

im using assist haruka s2

[hollow turtle]

due to aspd of his throws and ez paralyze with trag cat

[rocky rivet]

idk what her s3 does tbh lol

[fossil sphinx]

60% sanctuary

and bubbles levitate when popped

[hollow turtle]

s2 is good in the 1st stage of the map, i dont see it being useful in the 2nd tho

yeah the bear gets consistently levitated

for a long duration

of the skill*

[rocky rivet]

well idk if i can clear stage 1 on s3, i'd have to rethink the whole strat

and even on haruka s3, i dont think i ahve the dps to kill the bear while its flying

[hollow turtle]

do u have other healers? if so, ur rlly fine

[rocky rivet]

my game plan for phase 2 was to kill the other boss and just stall the bear forever with haruka s2 afterwards

[hollow turtle]

I use s3 haruka during the mechs appearance, when they r near the firing time. Use haruka's s3 early. Afterwards, when drones start to target ur ops. Use it again. Then again during boss, if u can. If not, its fine. Use hoshi2, logos s3, or tragodia paralyze

stall for dps and bam bam!!

[rocky rivet]

okay see thats the problem

[hollow turtle]

@hidden axle I want praisee!!

[rocky rivet]

https://www.krooster.com/u/lively-cherry-heron-071z

my noob ass account man

ive been trying to clear using 1 crutch support in hoshi alt, tragodia, haruka

[hollow turtle]

hmm i'd say you'd pretty have a decent nice roster. idk about dps, but you have good units that work in it

[rocky rivet]

with this setup i have like a 10% chance of reaching stage 2 LMAO

[hollow turtle]

this is what I used

[rocky rivet]

depends on if the heli+mortar snipes SA before the boss spawn

[daring escarp]

So cursed man

[rocky rivet]

like i think if i had mlynar i auto clear

mlynar+ 1 support

but alas 😭

[hollow turtle]

mvps
stage 1 - Tragodia, Haruka, Logos (asiding medic mechanic)
stage 2 - Yu, Ines, Haruka

after that, its just dps

oh right mylnar is the main mvp for both stages for me

aggro + dps + true dmg

and he is quite tanky for some reason

[hollow turtle]

why u no have medic in this

[rocky rivet]

i was testing

i been on this stage for like 8 hours man LOL

my unemployed ass

[hollow turtle]

8 hours

[rocky rivet]

i found skalter makes stage 1 a lot easier to clear

using ifrit s3 and eunectes to hold bottom lane

skalter heal+buff gives ifrit tools she needs

the monster heals up eunectes

also helps during boss phase with increase def

issue is i dont have tools to stall out for haruka s2 second cast

[daring escarp]

With this roster i believe you

[hollow turtle]

im trying to see if auto deploy is working for me in this stage.
But uh i dont have most of your ops. But u def need at least one medic for 1st stage. At least for me, so miners can delay the googly eyed mobs.

[daring escarp]

Im scared

But trag borrow does smth at least here

[rocky rivet]

^bc again, u dont need to dps the bear if u can just outlive it

[hollow turtle]

Tragodia is rlly nice, I mainly like it cuz of the lure and paralyze e.e

[rocky rivet]

i can try experimenting with trag again, but survivability is scary

[hollow turtle]

omg and slow

[rocky rivet]

i dont know how to use his cat in second phase

[daring escarp]

Dont need it

[hollow turtle]

u just put him far away and place him early, not late so he doesnt get targeted

[rocky rivet]

he cant solo the stage though

phase 2

[daring escarp]

Lure the bear

And then stall

[rocky rivet]

ya, u can perma stall the bear with trag

but i still need to reach the other boss

[hollow turtle]

okay my auto deploy failed me, but it was RLLY close to being complete. At least it showed the tp method.

[rocky rivet]

i cant just wisadel it or something

[daring escarp]

Bear kills the other boss

[hollow turtle]

oh i forgot wisadel exists

hm

[daring escarp]

You're missing this part

[daring escarp]

Trag is better

[rocky rivet]

how do you lure the bear to the other boss

do u have an example video for that

[hollow turtle]

i havent figured that out yet, but I did use Yu and Ines to tp it to the bear

[daring escarp]

https://b23.tv/TtZhhAO

Trag solo core

But its 2☆ clear

You have better ops anyway

[rocky rivet]

what the 4star e1

wtf

[daring escarp]

https://b23.tv/oTYZHmk

There's also this cursed clear

[hollow turtle]

not a perfect picture, but yu is in between them in that singular tile. And I had ines on the right of it, to reveal the boss. And had Yu drag the boss to Yu's tile. whereas the bear comply.

This is if u had yu

[rocky rivet]

man cn is built different wtf

[hollow turtle]

But u need haruka for the stalling duration

that was my method at least

improvision

keke

[hollow turtle]

ong

[wicked minnow]

i just did h16-4

holy shit rarity abuse

2 victims vs modern 6* units

that was genuinely hilarious

[glass monolith]

They have numbers so that 0.001% or whatever amount of die hards in absolutes outnumber whatever we have active

[daring escarp]

I did h16-4 with this type of squad, other 2 slots was useless shit that i never used after couple attempts

[hollow turtle]

I tried it leizi2 s3(m2). This is how the dmg suppose to look right?

[rocky rivet]

for phase 2 why is the boss walking back and forth

is it changing target based on lowest health ally

[daring escarp]

Bear needs to follow 2 checkpoints after hitting timeout/20% maxhp

1 - lastest op attacked/retreated during chase
2 - closest ladder

[glass monolith]

I love how bears need to fuck you up sometimes make him walk over left checkpoint only to go to it afterwards

[daring escarp]

He shouldn't

Wtf

Rock throws, close to bear or stuns-related smth/retreated op that was attacked

[glass monolith]

Bear has brain damage and forgets what he is doing if stunned

[rocky rivet]

i dont understand im stupid

[wicked minnow]

i think it was you minus who did sankta miksa s2 for bear in h16-4

i kinda yoinked your strat 🙏

i cba to find a better solution on my main for that stage

[glass monolith]

Good old "Yo this operator don't die"

[wicked minnow]

i unironically borrowed sankta miksa from my welfare alt 😭

[fossil sphinx]

if this is normal mode it should kill it in one go actually

💀

[hollow turtle]

Oh.. 🥀

[glass monolith]

Did he not charge 40 seconds for trait or whatever lazy SP costs are?

[wicked minnow]

seems like not fully charged

im 90% sure it's supposed to 1 skill

[hollow turtle]

Isnt 1260 atk the max stack

(Before activation)

[rocky rivet]

like the bear turns around when sniper is deployed in second phase

[hollow turtle]

Weird, I thought it was cuz the number wasnt going up

[rocky rivet]

and just walks around

[wicked minnow]

hmmm

[rocky rivet]

what criteria's are being fulfilled for the bear ai to walk around like that

[daring escarp]

It was supposed to be a bit higher if mod3 and max lvl

[fossil sphinx]

let me try leizi rn

[hollow turtle]

Mines like lvl.70 mod3 s3m2

[daring escarp]

Oh

Then yes

1260 max for you

[fossil sphinx]

oh its not even close

[wicked minnow]

might be fully charged then yeah

[fossil sphinx]

one cycle at e260 for me

[hollow turtle]

so its specialization diff?

[wicked minnow]

uhhh

was she wasting her hits?

she only has 8 hits on-skill

[hollow turtle]

I dont think so..

Also by specialization I mean skill mastery

[wicked minnow]

it was landing on the boss each time?

it has to land entirely on the boss

[hollow turtle]

Thats how far the balls go so I assume so yeah

[wicked minnow]

not just aoe or just some sparks

[glass monolith]

Because he goes after damage sources in bear phase 1, Totter shot this shit in face because Totter talent allow attacking invisible enemies and entire red smoke gimmick is just invis ignored by Totter, Ines, Silverash, Whatever is current name of that defender archetype module

[hollow turtle]

The boss is fat af

[wicked minnow]

seems weird then

[fossil sphinx]

placement problem maybe

put her on the left

thats where i put her

easy one cycle

[hollow turtle]

Oh I placed her in the center up front

[rocky rivet]

so u need to time taking boss dmg and totter punching him

to replicate this

[hollow turtle]

Welp it is what it is, wont stop me from making her my second m9 unit

[daring escarp]

Sentry

[rocky rivet]

like this is some insane ball knowledge i dont think i have the ability to do that

[fossil sphinx]

ok in EX mode its a bit less
about 2/3rds id say

[hollow turtle]

Ah

[glass monolith]

They will rename it again by time i bother to remember

[daring escarp]

I mean haruka s3 makes any teammate with a little higher stats than bullshit can survive the bear

[winter inlet]

How hard are the stages after 16-16 compared to it

[fossil sphinx]

H stages 💀

[daring escarp]

16-16 is easier thrice or maybe 5 times

[winter inlet]

;-;

[wicked minnow]

he was doing ex mode ye

[daring escarp]

16-17 is afkable

[fossil sphinx]

ok in EX damage looks about right

[wicked minnow]

16-16 ss2 is harder than all the h stages

[fossil sphinx]

same as my e260 one

[wicked minnow]

all my homies hate the mechas

[glass monolith]

Well you could sacrifice some medic on left 2 ranged tiles to heal civils i think. Honestly i suffered so much on phase 1 of map my brain wasn't braining phase 2

[fossil sphinx]

leizi absolutely an m9 unit tbh

[daring escarp]

Mechas more annoying than both bosses combined

[fossil sphinx]

her s3 was clutch for h16-4 with the permanent tremble on s3

[hollow turtle]

Oh i didnt think of that

I mainly use her for her s1

[fossil sphinx]

all three of her skills are very nice

[hollow turtle]

And then s2 near group of mobs

Her whole kit is nice for common niches

[glass monolith]

Main "issue" with chapter 16 boss is to try something funny on phase 2 you need to redo entire phase 1 and i am unsubscribed from that shit

[wicked minnow]

sankta miksa s2. was perfect for bear phase 1
once a welfare shill always a welfare shil

that is annoying as hell yeah

just let me retry 2nd phase bro 😭

[plucky flint]

how do you rate miksa as a brick from 1 to 10

[wicked minnow]

brick? 9/10. 10/10 depending on situation

[glass monolith]

Holy shit out of 10 against funny physical ranged enemies who never advance while attacking

[wicked minnow]

against bear, definitely what minus said

permanent 2k defense is 💀

9/10 cuz 2 reasons. 1. off-skill defense is on the lower end. 2. sometimes s2 and s3 end too quickly

in s3 case, ending too quickly isnt always bad but if the enemy has decent amounts of defense, then miksa is just useless

[glass monolith]

Well s2 ending "quickly" means he died twice at which point duration is last of my concerns

[wicked minnow]

not entirely what i meant

that's 1 part of it

but like s2 just has a large sp cost

where s3 you dont have to worry about that as much

50 sp cost vs 35 sp cost

on s2 if he's constantly firing, it ends relatively quickly that the 50 sp cost starts to get to you

[glass monolith]

Well now i kinda know that, i am mainly using him for S3 but S3 runs out of ammo when being hit i think

[wicked minnow]

s3 you can actually often just cancel s3 to cycle his ammo for next wave. s2 is a bit more iffy in that regard

ye s3 is when hit. can be a good or a bad thing

[plucky flint]

is this s2 facing the opposite way?

[wicked minnow]

you mean in h16-4?

ye

you dont want him to hit anything

[plucky flint]

ye, and maybe in general if I want it to be up as much as possible

[glass monolith]

I had neuron activation on realizing it give more DEF than S3M3 even on L7 and don't use ammo when not attacking

[plucky flint]

he has 2 tile range

might as well face him to your blue box or something

[wicked minnow]

he still attacks units he blocks smh

so when he's blocking he'll slowly lose duration on his s2

[daring escarp]

Cheap hoshi

[wicked minnow]

it's just that as minus said bear doesnt move much when attacking enraged

he has like 800 more defense than hoshi

[daring escarp]

Yes

And cheap

[wicked minnow]

[glass monolith]

And gave my Lemuen enough bullets to nuke H15-4 boss

[daring escarp]

Phase 1 is kinda cursed yea

[daring escarp]

You mean this one? Jk

[hexed zodiac]

Plus pot 5 exu2 buff?

[exotic grove]

does H15-4 have a franka tile

[wicked minnow]

no melee tiles beside boss

[exotic grove]

lame ahh stage

[wicked minnow]

very lame yeah

wang victim stage tho

[fossil sphinx]

bro longs for IS4 again
degen warf skadi bring me back to sgl2 meta

[daring escarp]

Everything is wang victim in gencontent

[wicked minnow]

real

cant even use the ironic ril for this one

[plucky flint]

ok I'm sold to miksa

[wicked minnow]

do you wanna borrow him first before investing

[daring escarp]

I havent finished is4 yet, im preparing

[plucky flint]

hmmm fair enough

[glass monolith]

My H15-4 was super peaceful. Feed one dog to other dog (Ceobe), Ambrielle mark boss, Lemuen S3, Warf S2, Mik S3

[plucky flint]

I mean, I'm also trying to find who else to raise

[daring escarp]

Same, I'm gonna raise cs because of her niche usages

Only to wait 2 months.. yea

[glass monolith]

Collabs, welfares, waifus

[plucky flint]

cs rerun still far smh

[plucky flint]

I'm at the point that I even raise faction shits for base

[glass monolith]

At that point might just play darts on excel sheet idk

[hidden axle]

I e2ed eun today for autonation comp

She was sitting at e1 max since ages anyways

[glass monolith]

Reason i found out bear is not moving while raging is because failed Eun S2 attempts

[hidden axle]

[fossil sphinx]

this is why IS is nice
gives you clear goals for who to build

[daring escarp]

Fr

[exotic grove]

u use gameplay to decide who to build?

[plucky flint]

reason why I don't like IS is it's too long for a single run, and when I tried to stop midway and came back I was just like "the fuck am I doing in this run" or something

[glass monolith]

And then there is me with "Fuck it, i'm bringing crownslayer in" mind set

[exotic grove]

that stage is actually evil tho

[daring escarp]

Actually yes

[fossil sphinx]

and luckily 100% optional

[daring escarp]

Niche usages are pretty common

So having them will make easier if you raise

[exotic grove]

oh interesting
I just build whichever op looks pretty

[fossil sphinx]

but ya if you're sitting around with no goals left its time to pick up IS

[hidden axle]

I have 5starknights op recs with me to raise after I run out of IS recs

[plucky flint]

General content is too easy, but this game gives you a lot of things to do that's why it's still alive to this date

[exotic grove]

5*knights is pretty fun
requires a good amount of brainpower tho

[plucky flint]

ngl adding IS and RA as a permanent mode was a good thing, I enjoyed both during their beta release

[daring escarp]

Playing RA without camo blocks is actually interesting tho

[lethal ferry]

5* are for when you get tired of ignoring the gimmicks with 6*

[glass monolith]

Cough. Me using Totter to snipe 2 order guys in H16-3 because i can't be bothered to play it fair

[lethal ferry]

But this is "intelligent usage of lower rarity niches" not "Brainless application of meta 6*"

or rather

[glass monolith]

There are some 5* and 4* which i can overuse so much it bring up question if that's brain rot to keep using same 20-30 operators and i should go to 3* only

[lethal ferry]

being able to hit invisible is the main thing totter has going for him outside of damage, a character like mantra feels like her invis reveal is just tacked on to her skill three

but that's just my opinion

[lethal ferry]

You say as if using 3* doesn't mean using the same 18 operators

[hexed zodiac]

You start late on that stage you’re in big trouble ya

[torpid prawn]

H16-4 can be very tight without monst3r s2m3. Need to bring lapper,yu,tragodia just to make up for the missed attack speed.
As for phase2 one wrong move on hoshi s3 part and the run fails (hoshi dies before bear phase1 ends / dies due to 2nd activation and wisadel takes the rock)

[wicked minnow]

sankta miksa s2 block bear for phase 1. some other brick defenders work here as well. put healer down so he doesnt die to arts damage from boss
block bear till phase 1 ends and dps down with exu2 if possible
phase 2 you teleport the other boss down using yu while they are revealed by the civs or manually using ines. this just gives you more time to deal with the boss but you can also just point exu2 at them

i wouldnt borrow hoshi2 here. feels a bit useless unless it's for the first part of the stage tbh

[torpid prawn]

Question is if Yu can survive tanking the womans hits while the skill is charging

[exotic grove]

in my experience no without a healer
he takes one barrage of hits then dies the next
if you can nab her within that timeframe it can work
so timing will be a little strict there

[wicked minnow]

the way i did it, they were in range of my healer so there was no issue there

[torpid prawn]

Guess its time for another set of upgrades (yu to s2m2 and miksa to max e2 s2m2)

[wicked minnow]

sankta miksa facing away from the bear if you are going to be using him. when the bear is enraged, he doesnt really move much when doing his ranged attacks

[torpid prawn]

Looking at his s2lv7 skill he gains 45 ammo so at most he can survive 5-7 hits?
2 at the start, down, heal, down, heal, dead

[wicked minnow]

sankta miksa barely gets scratched by the bear

he has about 2k defense and since it's ammo it doesnt reduce if he isnt attacking

since he isnt blocking then he doesnt take that much damage from bear

you'd mainly be healing him from the arts damage the other boss can cause

if you're asking about how his s2 works, if a hit would reduce his hp below 1 hp, it prevents it from going below 1 and it takes 20 ammo. if there's less than 20 ammo, it prevents it and ends the skill

i'd generally consider that part of his skill flavor text cuz if sankta is dying on s2 that easily, then probably that stage wasnt made for him

[torpid prawn]

So this was the cuora upgrade i was looking for (base hoshiguma less) wasnt expecting a free 6star to be useful

[exotic grove]

yea I mean back when he released people said he was mostly a brick and that's still held true today
it's just that bricks aren't highly used

[void terrace]

Do you have lem?

His combo with lem s3 is brutal

Half way through consuming her bullets for s3 you can activate his s3 to fire 11 bullets

[bright juniper]

ammoknights

[bright juniper]

well it’s not like he’s the first free 6* to be useful

[torpid prawn]

Yeah i have lemuen but cant get any of their modules.
And failed again because i tried to reveal the boss path with ines to deploy yu+healer on top path to charge up. Ines cant reveal deployable tiles

I could try pairing miksa with haruka s2 but it can easily aggro the bear before miksa

[spice prairie]

I brought my Hoshi just for 2nd part. I have 11 units to deal with first part.

[wicked minnow]

hoshi or hoshi2?

ye having someone to deal with bear first phase is a good idea ye

[spice prairie]

Hoshi1 I brought Hoshi 2 as well.
Hoshi is my ace in the hole

[wicked minnow]

then ye it's a good idea

i was saying hoshi2 isnt the best borrow cuz she does nothing stage 2

and that's what people usually struggle on

[spice prairie]

It's good that Hoshi2 exists because I could now bring Hoshi everywhere.

[wicked minnow]

yeeee

[spice prairie]

I thought you meant Hoshi s2.

[hasty minnow]

every time i think im done with this bear he pops up again

[thick sphinx]

[azure roost]

haruka or tragodia is best to borrow

pro shileds

[hexed zodiac]

He just likes hanging out

[hidden axle]

Bear is your best friend dont be harsh on him

[spice prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/udyr-run-nichijou-bear-stance-gif-7223492383883376221

[azure roost]

turn the cracked bear to bear stew

[wise pond]

quite annoying with the invisible area and the aoe artillery that gives burn-like effect

16-15

[naive holly]

I'm stuck here as well

[elder flume]

E0 Gravel

[wise pond]

also need some strong sustain ig

only e2 there are logos and la pluma

[naive holly]

A casual walter chilling

[wise pond]

chilling and w8ing the pollution gone or enemy appears from the red mist

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wisadel cant summon revenant on e1

[naive holly]

Did you try placing Walter on the top most tile?

Eckogen guide had exu2 on the top tile

Or smth

[wise pond]

i mean my own units, support always prevail

[wise pond]

i'll try thx for the tips

[naive holly]

Np

[scarlet fulcrum]

Wisadel not real, atleast agreed on that point

[wise pond]

The Great Wis'adel

[wise pond]

hehe thx a lot for the solution

[naive holly]

Ayyy

Eckogen is the goat

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dude has done it, usual Ritual

[wise pond]

now this i've heard this is so hard

[naive holly]

You are so under levelled for this

[fringe solstice]

the power of wisadel carry

[wise pond]

ikr

The Great Wis'adel

[naive holly]

Did you let the boss leak?

Bear

One

[river atlas]

?

[wise pond]

u mean 16-12?

nope

[naive holly]

Oh

I see

[wise pond]

also wis'adel carry

[naive holly]

Pog

I let him leak cuz i am bad at the game

[wise pond]

nah just repeat and u can clear it fullstar just fine GLHF

[naive holly]

I'll do the stage again when I have built my cuora

Cuz I think I need cuora for hm

Him*

[sterile drum]

if im tryna to do yu bait how should my placements be? my yu has been dying with shu + haruka

[river atlas]

do u not have any stallers

[sterile drum]

i have trag and wisadel with me rn i didnt bring orachid

[dull quiver]

iam struggling with h16-4 i can kill the bear phase 1 but i can't push miners fast enough to reveal the other boss and he keeps picking my units

[wise pond]

at least i can manage to pull her out, i mean the boss then all ded, the end

[river atlas]

Who are you borrowing

[wise pond]

yeah, impossible, need to get and up more ops

[sterile drum]

wisadel

[river atlas]

yu cannot directly tank the bear off skill btw

[sterile drum]

thats why i thought haruka and shu would keep him up

but they die 😔

[elder flume]

Yu is low def

you have NG and baits while waiting for bear and Yuro to align

more bodies more distribution

[river atlas]

The easiest method is to sneak yu behind the bear and have someone else tank, usually hoshialt + exusiai but ive seen hoshi1 or sankta do it w defense buffers

[sterile drum]

ng which skill should i use?

[river atlas]

S3

[sterile drum]

i dont have hoshi alt or either exu

[sterile drum]

does anyone replace mountain and chen

[elder flume]

oh theyre just random people i put

since Yuro distributes damage 5x

and just using 1 baiter means taking 5x damage

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can just SA, surtr, civies run to top, place YU on revealed tiles there, wait bear to teleport to top

[naive holly]

Lol

[river atlas]

I have seen h4 bear tanked with sankta/hoshi1 + thorns alter/shining

[elder flume]

its 1560 atk bear so if you get to 95% def of it

[sterile drum]

my tankiest defender is liskarm

[weak gazelle]

that low atk bear have

[sterile drum]

do i need to rework my team? i can beat first half fine

i cant really change wisadel causes thats how i clear first half tho

i have the sui siblings there cause sp buff

[river atlas]

Do u have ines

[sterile drum]

no

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its should be very doable in that situation ngl

[sterile drum]

im getting placements wrong i think and they just get picked off

[weak gazelle]

ohh right maybe i play chen + blem for bear
seem legit

[sterile drum]

this is the exact team im bringing

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah nothing wrong with the ops

[sterile drum]

everyone is s3 except gravel

[fossil sphinx]

allat for shu passive im cryne

[sterile drum]

i place ng shu yu down

right when i can from miners

[sterile drum]

😔 i cant beat first phase without it

literally spamming skills and if i miss time i die

[fossil sphinx]

the three slots that do nothing

Or 2 I guess yu is needed

[sterile drum]

i use dusk and ling to stall first stage

ling is s2 to stall drones and the walking through guys

[river atlas]

p1 can be 5 op’d with wisadel tragodia silverash surtr + 1 more dps and its not a particularly difficult execution either

[sterile drum]

yes thats what ive been doing

sorta

ive helidrop surtr and silverash as needed on lanes

[river atlas]

U shouldnt need to stall or block anyone

[sterile drum]

trag holds top lane

[sterile drum]

its just the boss

[river atlas]

The boss is why i included the +1 dps

[sterile drum]

i have wisadel in the middle to hit middle and bottom lane

[sterile drum]

my + 1 dps is dusk

im just struggling with 2nd half

[river atlas]

My man, yuro has 70 res how about not using a dps who does 1/3rd dmg

[sterile drum]

i tried following a strat but my dp cost gets way too high to deploy

ive tried replacing but the sp buff i need to use my skills on time

for 2nd half im just tryna get placements down because i said def have it wrong cause my yu keeps dying

[dull quiver]

anyone got a hoshi i can borrow

[maiden hound]

1 or 2

[dull quiver]

1

need a tank that can survive bear in h16-4

[maiden hound]

soz

[spice prairie]

You could reveal a spot by putting Ines face up then retreat her. And put Yu with skill 2 there to teleport the boss when it came to the reveal tile. (I'm not sure if Yu could teleport the boss but I heard he could.)

If you blocked the bear for awhile with someone like hoshi, the miner could just pass the bear and move on to the other boss.

[dull quiver]

i don't have anyone who can tank the bear, and i don't have yu in my supports so iam trying to borrow either

[shut hazel]

I have hoshi 1. Still need it ?

But you need to heal and buff hoshi def

[dull quiver]

ye i would appreciate that

[shut hazel]

Or she wouldn't survivr too

[dull quiver]

i got haruka

haruka + lumen should be enough,no?

[shut hazel]

Wait a sec

49947317

My uid

As long as hoshi dont die you can clear it

[naive holly]

Any idea for 13-15?

[dull quiver]

sent u a fr , and thx ❤️

[shut hazel]

Alright already accept it

Amd good luck

[hidden axle]

Slife stage pic

[hasty minnow]

Bruh

[pearl compass]

<@&586570970345635868>

[naive holly]

Sending

[bright juniper]

you should easily be able to clear 13-15 with that team, just gotta push the bombs

[naive holly]

I tried holding the bottom lane with just saria and ascalon

Probably that's why I failed

I'll hold it with ulpi this time

[bright juniper]

your objective is pushing bombs, you can’t clear bottom lane otherwise

[pearl compass]

Actually he can

But it's cursed as it looks

You need to kill casters...

...literally inside the bluebox.

[naive holly]

Okay

[thick sphinx]

That's not just lmao, that's pretty good lane holding lol

[naive holly]

I dunno but they got wiped lmaoo

I'll focus more on bombs

[thick sphinx]

Borrow logos and use his S1, you don't even need to destroy bombs anymore

[naive holly]

From the get go

[naive holly]

..

[daring escarp]

Same, i did saria on bottom and saki clears that lane sometimes

After finished everything had second dps there

[thick sphinx]

Yea that works, I'm still kinda mad that i don't have a 6star defender yet 😭

[naive holly]

Build cuora

[thick sphinx]

I hv gavial alter

She works

Kinda

[naive holly]

Nice

[thick sphinx]

Me go play more IS 2 and hope tmr is sash banner 💀

[naive holly]

Lmao

[glass monolith]

Releasing banner before announcing it... Well it is not outside Yostar intern power

[thick sphinx]

[naive holly]

The intern should just release the pc client 😔

[azure roost]

@scarlet fulcrum carry me on co-op

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cant relate

[azure roost]

[scarlet fulcrum]

My inet very potato rn, ngl

Idk if i will even survive this time

Its on -7 utc server even more, smh yostar

[azure knot]

@daring escarp I managed to beat the bear

[daring escarp]

Congrats

[azure knot]

I can't send the video in here though since I don't have nitro premium

[daring escarp]

You can upload on youtube and make it non-public

[azure knot]

https://youtu.be/MptzfhGOOq0?si=uTFFe4AuQ6JdK4iz

[daring escarp]

Should've faced sankta to blue box

[azure knot]

Blue box?

[last stream]

misumi will add +30% arts dmg in band members' atk, if sakiko s1 deals 8 instance of dmg, does that mean misumi's talent activated 8 times (one on each projectile)?

[azure knot]

Ah wait nvm, brain fart

[azure knot]

I totally forgot about that one but it didn't matter since Kross got his agro anyway

[limpid ore]

operator direction dictate the damage source direction

[errant herald]

Guys anyone have the bison on their supports?

Can I friend whoever have ut

[daring escarp]

Rechord has

But why you need bison in first place tho

[errant herald]

Just because 🧍

Guys friend me guys:3

m#4540

[scarlet fulcrum]

Isnt Bison free

[errant herald]

Oh no just max bison

I want

[scarlet fulcrum]

🍿

300 mb download, joever 🥔

[glass monolith]

Loading clowns for PvPbreaker games

[scarlet fulcrum]

Atleast we got guaranteed tags earlier than its should be

Hopefully its SA pot

[regal briar]

Run with this comp, and you’ll have a good time as a beginner in IS, especially IS4.

[limpid ore]

something something spike chest

[daring escarp]

Wis in is3 explodes if you play wrong yea

[foggy grove]

i was planning to skip icebreaker then i remember chiave skin

[glass monolith]

You are having fun but die says 20 years brain freeze on deploy

[limpid ore]

only is5 doesnt have spike chest

[glass monolith]

Time to get another 20 never to be unlocked football exclusive enemy entities in my enemy archive

[limpid ore]

and is2 ig

tho is2 chest is fraud

[glass monolith]

Is5 has chests which pull out knife and stab your life points when damaged, yes?

[limpid ore]

tbh all IS except 2 have mimic chest

[regal briar]

For IS3, I actually like to use Myrtle, Random Operator, and Texas Alter.

[glass monolith]

Texas alter with -50% "Curse" is funniest shit in IS3

[regal briar]

lol yeah

[limpid ore]

meanwhile in IS4 you get turboboosted collapsal

[daring escarp]

Lmfao, jump and dies and repeat

[limpid ore]

i once get april with some relic that make her had 2 seconds redeployment time in IS5

[daring escarp]

They're still relatively easy(after you follow enemy path)

[regal briar]

Guys, just play the chapter story mode if every difficulty in IS is your problem lol.

[limpid ore]

+100% max HP paradigma on top of +210% from difficulty scaling

[glass monolith]

Someone link 0 second redeploy Bagpipe IS2

[limpid ore]

plus MSPD increase

[elder flume]

Be sure to test chap 16 targeting after patch

[limpid ore]

you see, in iS4, you can stack up to 4 collapse debuff that last for the whole run instead of floor, on top of cursed relic

[daring escarp]

...

[regal briar]

Now... Integrated Strategies is hard, am i right?

[glass monolith]

Rain renaming himself back on April Fools... But it means previous name was real deal... Uh...

[maiden hound]

it depends

[limpid ore]

also there is that fordaltar combination that turn all nodes in a floor into emergency combat

[glass monolith]

It is free. To fuck around and find out.

[regal briar]

Integrated Strategies is easy, you suck!!!

[daring escarp]

Gl having fun on maxdiff

With triple endings

[regal briar]

Blind folded?

[glass monolith]

Domain expansion: Ulp IS2 d15 ed2 S3 spam

[daring escarp]

That one is necessary

[glass monolith]

If I needed guide every time I do something in this game I wouldn't play this game

[regal briar]

The truest Integrated Strategies experience would be a lobotomite run, where, prior to playing, we perform a frontal lobotomy and sever your prefrontal cortex.

Sometimes the only option you have to preserve the purity of your experience is brain damage.

[glass monolith]

Me going into IS3 ending 4 with all stun relics and Crown slayer only to find out ENTIRE SHIT IS STUN IMMUNE?

[hallow brook]

how to deal with the last wave of fortbreakers 😭
they're so tanky and by the time i killed the boss
all of my units are exhausted

[noble pewter]

why not u kill boss fast at top right then u can slowly deal other enemy use ines reveal n kill

[daring escarp]

You have exu and hoshi

[scarlet epoch]

mlynar is so good didn't know how much dmg he did dam

[hallow brook]

they're both S2

[daring escarp]

Wtf afknights

[scarlet epoch]

killed both the bosses didn't even need ot think

[daring escarp]

[pearl compass]

You don't pick Reinforcement Risk and pick Yurostvo HP+ASPD instead

[hallow brook]

boss dominion kind of annoys me in the first phase so im not that confident using that

[daring escarp]

Just time frd and retreat before dominion hit

[pearl compass]

Either that or good luck tanking those, lol.
At most use Tragodia to paralyse them or boss to simpify them.

[hallow brook]

does paralyze cancel out the dominion spawning attack?

[remote perch]

Paralyze prevent enemies from doing a basic atk
He needs to do a basic atk to do shit

[pearl compass]

Not quite, but it cancels basic attacks.
Do I need to remind you at what condition she does that?

[hallow brook]

fair

[pearl compass]

Every. 4th. Attack.
Stop her doing any and she won't fart... at all.

[hallow brook]

mon3tr as my frd ig

[raw osprey]

What skill to max for Kroos alter? 2 or 1?

[hallow brook]

S2
she goes brrrt and stuns more

[azure roost]

2

u dont use s1 very much

[golden merlin]

which skill active 1st mantra or tragodia s3?

[thick sphinx]

Dude i thought you were someone else xol

[daring escarp]

Ice vs dripy ice

[thick sphinx]

Ye lol

I can't find him in the server lol

[daring escarp]

Mantra>trag to proc her paralysis on skill from tragodia activation after her

[daring escarp]

He's chilling, he has things to do

[thick sphinx]

Ye he told lol,

[snow juniper]

I'm having a bit of trouble with h-16-3

does anyone have advice?

[azure roost]

its gonna change when april 1 is gone

[thick sphinx]

[weak gazelle]

a bit tight on skill timing but its fun

[hidden axle]

Damn chen1 and broca alapoca

[scarlet fulcrum]

P3 vulpis nice

[plucky flint]

15 mins slowmode in help

[hidden axle]

Help #help

[scarlet fulcrum]

Good old days help

mt routine

[unkempt lintel]

[scarlet fulcrum]

This channel even on lockdown each mt

[raw osprey]

New banner not worth it?I want Nara but from what I see other operators not that good?

[plucky flint]

you have 25% hool, bad rate

[hidden axle]

Nara is mere 25% odds
Lemuen is good
Degen is uh decent but personally would not pull, not to mention her cert shop debut is soon
Hool is omega niche but otherwise eldritch horror levels of bad

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u only miss 1 or 2 dont bother tbh (collection purpose), the pool itself mid af

[hidden axle]

Not to mention theres pram2 and sa2 soon

[lofty stag]

Wow help 2

[spark idol]

Do you guys think it's in poor taste to cheese co-op gramophone stages with traps, devices etc?

[lofty stag]

Cheese?

You mean

Using the stage mechanics as intended

[hexed zodiac]

Modless trag too

[bright juniper]

we live in an age where playing the game as intended is cheesing the game

[daring escarp]

Cheese is boring

[hexed zodiac]

We live in the age where IS6 challenge run is banning like 15 ops

Or on the flip side people spend 4 hours doing the IS6 exploit just to finish ending one on diff 7

[azure roost]

amongus

[daring escarp]

@full terrace

It should be icebreaker games

[full terrace]

Ah alright thanks for letting me know

[weak gazelle]

hmm?
didnt find the map that i need him with mod yet :ya:

[azure roost]

@weak gazelle @plucky flint i give in

i pulled

i won

i got lemuen

[remote perch]

@sharp rose @stark schooner

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/969192347965456414/1488899281866850324/Your_paragraph_text_3_page-0001.jpg?ex=69ce7503&is=69cd2383&hm=eb5b36bcd361ecaedeea4eeddac19c9fecb2aed2b5c2dfe084fb5a971b04a304&animated=true

My Slowdown on help is still at 5 mins cuz of the previous adjustment

Got fucked by talking early lol

[weak gazelle]

wtf
not ho'ol🥀

[azure roost]

i won 2/4

its lemuen or tuta

got lemuen

now i need to m9 her

im broke

50+ pulls

[weak gazelle]

lol
have fun then
didnt use lemuen for a while
too braindead :icant:

[sharp rose]

so I should go specialist shift?

[remote perch]

Yes

[stark schooner]

Thanks

[azure roost]

kek

she is on my m9 list

glad i got her

[weak gazelle]

wait another year and use her peak skin :ya:

[azure roost]

yep

peak

[spark idol]

Oh man, time to review mechanics for an hour

[azure roost]

lol

[pearl compass]

– delete this game lmao cannot play wishadel bozo

[glass monolith]

Now make Surtr activate skill then walk away

[pearl compass]

She dies without pressing her skill at all

F

[vestal ravine]

Can anyone recommend a team for annihilation the watery tidehollow one

[glass monolith]

Imagine if in AK-4 you break roadblock next to myrtle and then entire buff squad drops in and make Myrtle 1v1 steam knight

[dusty sphinx]

Wheres ur

Ops

Bro

[hexed zodiac]

https://youtu.be/RVAEpxqZRro?si=zxh_yH99KTE0yP0I

Have fun

[vestal ravine]

Idk if it's even possible with my ops but I want to try

[bright juniper]

oh boy… bro boutta send a paragaph/image spam

[dusty sphinx]

It looks kinda tough

With this squad

[hexed zodiac]

Literally just try to use the ops on the video or a higher star op that does something similar if you don’t have one of them

[dusty sphinx]

Hes new as hell.. maybe do the lungmen onw until u get enough levels

I mean it should be possible with a borrow

[hexed zodiac]

It’s possible with 2,3,4 stars all E1

[dusty sphinx]

Yeah but hes new

[hexed zodiac]

Ok

[dusty sphinx]

Kinda hard

[hexed zodiac]

So he comes back in like a week

Or borrows an op

[dusty sphinx]

Or few days

[woven plinth]

That squad isn't even full e1

[dusty sphinx]

Yeah thats what im saying

E0 ops arent cutting it

[vestal ravine]

Welp thanks guys for the help 🙏🙏 ig I'll just grind for now

[hexed zodiac]

[woven plinth]

You can try the easier annihilations first but you will still not get a 400

[dusty sphinx]

Arent they much easier

I guess no borrow is still impossible

[woven plinth]

Lungmen is alot easier but still

[faint scaffold]

anyone doing the icebreaker?

[scarlet fulcrum]

cant repeat tutorial bruh, i want to do funny stuff

Found it nvm

[astral cosmos]

i am

[faint scaffold]

okay ill be there after i did this weird stage

im so confused

[astral cosmos]

what the fuck the drone stage is giga ass

fuck am i supposed to do

[faint scaffold]

idk what im meant to do here, well i do, but idk how to do it

[novel plover]

is the icebreaker channel gonna open up again or?

[astral cosmos]

it will

need Infinity to unlock it though

[faint scaffold]

i dont like this idk what im meant to do

[hexed zodiac]

Have you read the description?

[faint scaffold]

the thing on the side?

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah it’s like a new feature

[faint scaffold]

i read the side but idk what i wants me to do

[hexed zodiac]

Bruh

[faint scaffold]

yes, but i cant get through myself

[hexed zodiac]

Get your op into the blue box

[faint scaffold]

nvm

[hexed zodiac]

https://youtu.be/le9wAzeNX-o here’s a vid

[faint scaffold]

my internet is so slow

i did it

[scarlet fulcrum]

fr, cant load any vid

[worldly hatch]

Anyone in here wanting to do Icebreaker together perhaps?

[astral cosmos]

sure

[worldly hatch]

Vc as well?

[astral cosmos]

can vc too sure

[worldly hatch]

Aight, lets go Rhodes Island

[unique grove]

(h12-4) im able to kill the boss one time, but second phase gets me killed.. haruka can solo sustain but mon3tr and ptilopsis get cooked trying to keep sakiko alive

[rough lotus]

How is supposed to clear h16-4 without ulpianus and tragodia?

[brittle wren]

depends on what other ops you have

[woven plinth]

Tried mon3tr s3?

[unique grove]

what would i do after s3 ends, sakiko would most likely be dead

heres roughly how im setting it up

[woven plinth]

If you put recon before Sakiko it will both to dps and - from what I can tell when using it - to healing. Since her attacks seem to chain heal in s3 as well
Also the s3 attacks are true damage

Don't remember if that dude can be blocked tho

[unique grove]

mon3tr can heal during s3..?

have i been clueless about this the whole time

[woven plinth]

She heals herself and she seems to heal her closest allies as well

And it scales from her att so yeah

[unique grove]

ptilopsis always dies no matter what i try, although idk if thats because of the aoe

[latent halo]

team ?

[unique grove]

and because of that sakiko dies on the second phase

[hidden axle]

Which stage is that

[latent halo]

so you have to be in a room to get bonus ?

[hidden axle]

Ig

[woven plinth]

I only noticed it when I used s3 to delete an avenger while texas was dying to it and then her hp kept jumping from absurdly low to full next hit(and it went back and forth)

[unique grove]

yeah ptilopsis just gets like

one shot

idk if mon3tr s3 can save the sakiko group

[glass monolith]

Every 20 seconds or something each Damatzi on field no-scope same operator (base targeting, last deployed, taunt etc) with basic attack, global range

[unique grove]

so basically

i forgot to deploy gravel

ok

time to try again

[woven plinth]

With that much hp she might even kill it alone

[unique grove]

it becomes invulnerable every time you take 25% of its hp

[woven plinth]

The invuln is 5-7s no? Skill is 20+ iirc, so it's still massive damage to inflict

[glass monolith]

Don't boss invul on 50%, you thinknig about Harold or something

Also invul lasts until you reveal new friend

[unique grove]

not for h12-3 and h12-4

harder version of boss ig

[unique grove]

you still have to discover identity of each fragment

i got further but ptilopsis and sakiko died at the same time

not sure what else to do

[glass monolith]

Bro i am not calling 2 healthbars the 100%, half of first phase healthbar is 50%, take it or leave it

[unique grove]

no thats what im saying

for first phase

it gains invuln every 25%

[glass monolith]

He goes invul only on clone summon, maybe he summons it on 66% or something but i dont recall him doing it every time

[unique grove]

clone summon happens after you deplete 25% hp in phase

1

[glass monolith]

Oh clone 3 is like 33 or 50 phase 1, But clone 4 is phase 2 50%, not very every 25%

[unique grove]

well you can see there are 4 of them

it happens at 75%, 50%, 25%

[fringe solstice]

iirc mlynar s3 lines up pretty ok with damazti and taunts

although ulpi is better since he has no defense

[unique grove]

this is what im working with

no mlynar

[glass monolith]

I checked PRTS. It is phase 1 75%, phase 1 50%, phase 2 50%, And well phase 1 death if you count that invulnerability

[fringe solstice]

hmm I think it is easier with aoe since the damazti spawn multi bottom lane

sakiko behind defenders should work

[woven plinth]

"defenders" xD

[uncut lark]

Can anyone help me with clearing IG-3?

It's the one where you capture a bunch of gramophones.

[fringe solstice]

well you can 1. use high hp low defense op like quartz or 2. switch the defenders out when they get 0 def

ig if you want to use this team in particular, it would be tough

[unique grove]

theres no 25%?

why would there be 4 then

[unique grove]

im thinkinf to grab fully maxed support shu

instead of ptilopsis

then put mutsumi in front of sakiko, and shu where mutsumi was

[fringe solstice]

well more healing is good

[unique grove]

op limit

i wont be able to place fast redeploy

[fringe solstice]

The crystals deal a lot of damage which is why I suggested aoe. You can outheal them but it is tough because they deal corrosion damage. When damazti uses his skill to spawn them, use healing and/or aoe skills

[glass monolith]

Because 4th is spawned by phase 2 50%, which used to be 3rd one before entire "Lol, lmao, more clones" part of H-3 H-4

[unique grove]

yea, i pressed both medic skills and it wasnt enough

as for aoe.. i dont have any aoe ops that can hit flying units besides fiammeta

[fringe solstice]

I would try sakiko s3

it combos well with mon3 s2

[unique grove]

sakichan is already on s3

[fringe solstice]

you have logos unless you don't want to use him

[unique grove]

well

it means giving up on a fast redeploy or a medic

or support shu

wait no

you bring up a good point, i can just press s3 and live

ill try that in a bit

[fringe solstice]

this is a low op clear but I think you could use the same setup bottom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOS_hbSFHs4

[unique grove]

oh wow

i just wonder if blaze has enough dps for the top setup

[fringe solstice]

probably I would test it

ulpi has 0 def so he doesn't care about corrosion and he heals himself. He can solo the top lane

[bright juniper]

shouldn’t be too difficult for blaze to dps, it’s just sustaining that can be an issue

[fringe solstice]

I used kaltist instead since I retreated mon3tr to reset defense

[woven plinth]

Your Blaze should more than fine if she has a healer

[unique grove]

dps wasnt the issue lol

she died with double healer on her

[fringe solstice]

yeah ig 0 def is too much

[woven plinth]

She has 3k hp tho

[unique grove]

all 3k

decided

poof

ill have shu instead of surtyr there

hopefully she lives

[woven plinth]

No like, she had to take too much corrosion damage to get 1shot

[unique grove]

shes not getting one shot

the heal is just not enough

like barely

[plucky flint]

have you tried a berry to at least not proc a corrosion?

[unique grove]

huh?

[fringe solstice]

can berry even stop corrosion on h12-4, it's 50% of his attack

[plucky flint]

sorry, wandering medics I mean

honeyberry is kinda strong elemental injury healer with her s1, but tbh I haven't tried it yet

[fringe solstice]

I think eyja2 can but I'm not sure about honeyberry

[unique grove]

yeah idk

eventually i have to press shu skill to save her here

[lethal ferry]

Why isn’t she in haruka range?

[unique grove]

okay they died

[unique grove]

sakiko needs the heal lower

[lethal ferry]

I feel like you could’ve positioned them so that they’re all in range

[unique grove]

i mean

how would you do that and defend upper lane at the same time

[lethal ferry]

If haruka was on the tile to the right of mon3tr and sakiko and mutsumi were to the left of her and blaze was moved right they would all be in range

And that shouldn’t throw off you strategy too much

[unique grove]

the four top most and then right most tiles are not deployable

[lethal ferry]

… didn’t see the left one of those, oops

Would mutsumi survive without a healer?

[unique grove]

it wouldnt be that she'd survive or not but that 0 block is really bad

[plucky flint]

she'll leak the boss

[lethal ferry]

You can force all the dazmati on the bottom lane on to one tile with enough effort, not sure how many come through that lane though

[plucky flint]

they place their ops that way cuz of guides, surely they really don't need to make effort just to place everything inside haruka's range

and they already cleared it so idk what's with this topic ngl

[lethal ferry]

Oh really, I didn’t realise that sorry

[plucky flint]

here's the guide for reference of what they're copying

[lost mesa]

for h16-4 is max cuora sufficient to act as bait in place of hoshi?

i dont have hoshi or eyja alter so i was thinking to get eyja support

if hoshi replaceable

[vocal leaf]

why is eyjalt even needed here?

[plucky flint]

to heal miners

[brittle wren]

for h16-4 you can just use other healers

you dont need eyja

[lost mesa]

will haruka and monster be enough?

[brittle wren]

honestly part 2 is the issue not 1

[lost mesa]

E2 60 and E2 30

[brittle wren]

so can use pretty much any healer tbh

[lost mesa]

i tried with honeyberry but the baits still died T_T

[brittle wren]

do you have hoshi, hoshi alter, exusiai alter, walter, or tragodia?

any of those makes it significantly easier

[lost mesa]

i have hoshi alt, exu2 and trag

and i can bring max hoshi with def mod on support

[brittle wren]

nice so the strat mostly is spamming hoshi alt S3 with exu2 on top and mid lane at part 1 and using any other strong dps you have for bottom lane

[lost mesa]

best healers i have are haruka lv60 and monster lv30, both E2

[brittle wren]

and use whatever for things that get through somehow

if using hoshi alter + exu alter strat dont worry about healing miners

just dps through it

[lost mesa]

ok got it thanks

[tender orbit]

Can Haruka heal

[lost mesa]

ill give it a try

[tender orbit]

Cuz Iirc its medic only

[brittle wren]

healers help for mid/bottom lane, but for top and mostly mid hoshi+exu alters should have those covered

[lost mesa]

giga heals icl

[brittle wren]

pm me if you continue to struggle, I can send you some vids I used myself or get on a call to help

[lost mesa]

my best healer

[tender orbit]

I meant the miners

[brittle wren]

I wish I have Haruka QQ

[lost mesa]

so ig my haruka will cover top/mid, and monster cover bot/mid?

[brittle wren]

I have pulls saved to buy Eyja next anniversary lmfao

[lost mesa]

since the giga tanks for bait will be top

[lost mesa]

ah i have no clue

[plucky flint]

only medic class can heal miners

[brittle wren]

you'll use myrtle/Ines to get dp to put hoshi here and use skill asap (dont forget to use phase 2 of skill always)