strategy

[pearl compass]

If she gets Necros'd, she wouldn't press the skill and may die in the process...

[hidden axle]

Also said this but ppl cant read

[plucky flint]

but with team, mudmud has her own utility

[pearl compass]

Although

Taunt

For chain catsers

[rustic eagle]

Yes pls

[plucky flint]

where do you place mudmud tho

Exus#3092

[rustic eagle]

You also said not level 90

[plucky flint]

don't expect a mod3 for both btw

[rustic eagle]

Should be ok, sent

[hidden axle]

You are not solo-ing with either are you

Smh

[hidden axle]

cough

[plucky flint]

hey man, ulpi just came out, and he's not as selfish as those 2

[rustic eagle]

Well fair enough may I send u too if you don’t mind

[hidden axle]

No now I dip

[rustic eagle]

👍

[plucky flint]

he's a tsun

[rustic eagle]

Would degenbrecher work

I heard she’s a nuke

As long as she can kill the wave with the sword guy I will be saved

[daring escarp]

DR is high

I mean it works but 30 seconds cooldown

I can put logos and degen in supports if you need

[rustic eagle]

I have a degen I can try already, perhaps for the logos tho👀

[scarlet epoch]

how do I do this?

🥹

[daring escarp]

Oh wait, you have exu and hoshi, brb

[scarlet epoch]

yeah this part is annoying I failed twice

well I've only done the stage twice...

[daring escarp]

Basically I'll send a vid, you have to bait yurodstvo attacks or try to s2 trag yurodstvo asap after miner survives, so you can bait the bear onto yurodstvo

[scarlet epoch]

okay thank you I'll keep it paused meanwhile

[daring escarp]

https://b23.tv/WuudqFT

And i have other one in mind but its kinda rng too

You can place trag right from the start at the top when miner spawns

[scarlet epoch]

I'm using exu skill 2

[daring escarp]

Oh

[pearl compass]

Can you borrow Yu?

[scarlet epoch]

yeah...

[daring escarp]

You have bagpipe s2 or s3?

[scarlet epoch]

oh I have him

[pearl compass]

Skill 2.

https://youtu.be/F9za9BbYg1k?t=4m31s

[scarlet epoch]

oh yeah I can

[pearl compass]

Dew it.

[scarlet epoch]

ngl I just have her there for the passive

[daring escarp]

You need invis reveal first tho

[scarlet epoch]

high-impact assault

so I'm cooked right now

[daring escarp]

You need sa s3 use to bait the bear maybe

You need to bait/stall the bear long enough

[scarlet epoch]

okay I'll try

[daring escarp]

[scarlet epoch]

well I got cooked

time to try yu s2

can I borrow @pearl compass

[naive holly]

Ch13 is kinda hard

This 13-5 clear is so funny

Mine

[scarlet epoch]

you got Yu s2?

nvm

[pearl compass]

BengFox#8182

[scarlet epoch]

added you issue is I don't have exu skill 3

[pearl compass]

That's kinda bad.

But I hope it's optional.

[scarlet epoch]

you think rank 7 will work

[pearl compass]

Should.

Since it doesn't change Main SP Cost.

[scarlet epoch]

okay I hope it works

[pearl compass]

Anyway, accepted. Yu at your disposal. Have fun.

[scarlet epoch]

ty

I hope to complete it in two tries

[rustic eagle]

How do I use mudrock here

Cuz there’s still two lanes even if only looking at right side

[azure roost]

what map

[pearl compass]

10-16

[naive holly]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HyQ9NiaZIPvtUI8cg_HyNXUicKQDbuVl/view?usp=drivesdk

I am so bad at this game

🥀

Hoshi my goat though

[azure roost]

oj that fuckjng map

that map made a trouble for me when doing 4★ only

cause enemy elite there is too much

[naive holly]

10-17 was so much harder for me lol

Even now I have it at 2*

[scarlet epoch]

could you put Haruka s3...

my yu is s2.

[pearl compass]

Yeah, sure.

[naive holly]

Bengal can I add you

[scarlet epoch]

I was like my reach is not that far until I noticed why

[pearl compass]

Done.

[scarlet epoch]

ty

oh nah it's rank 7

is that fine

[pearl compass]

Yes

[scarlet epoch]

okay I'll try again

[pearl compass]

SP Cost still 60

And duration is 40sec

Any mastery.

[scarlet epoch]

okay time to try again I hope I don't mess it up

[azure roost]

@pearl compass ngl this could be lower alot but i just didnt bother and just do normal 4★ clear

deep cl will be there to lower it

[scarlet epoch]

yeah I give up I'm going back to studying

[dusk quest]

16-16 making me lose it

[daring escarp]

Just hold lanes and then burst yurodstvo

Phase 2 is easy, have 2 healers

Use bursts right when yurodstvo comes by, since there is enough time to burst golems

[dusk quest]

Yeah I beat it and strategic right after I sent that message, as usual

[hidden axle]

If you have the ops, spawncamp her phase 1 since that insteantly ends map 1

[dusk quest]

The answer was Ines

Nothing was hard but the fog, which Ines was the answer to

I really wanted to do it 3op but I lost patience

[rustic eagle]

Bro i can’t beat that wave

Idk how to

[thick sphinx]

Whoa

[thick sphinx]

It's easy as shit in some stages and hard as fuck in the other

[azure roost]

ello ken

[thick sphinx]

Ey Xol

[hidden axle]

Ch 13 is fun and vames until you realise you need to use the mechanic to kill a certain elite

[rustic eagle]

I always end in this kind of situation

[thick sphinx]

Ye lol

-# although I can't say much, brute forced that shit with gavial and logos s1

[hidden axle]

I played ch 13 after a break and forgot that, realised after they didnt die for 2 mins after killing everykne else

[thick sphinx]

[hidden axle]

So I had to wait few more mins until I cleared that stage

[thick sphinx]

Lmao

[hidden axle]

Stalled them in place by killing them again and again

[rustic eagle]

Maybe I should sacrifice wisadel and everyone else to have the nuke drop on those guys

But I don’t think it even kills them

[hidden axle]

Bro

[thick sphinx]

Whoa

[hidden axle]

Thats not how you play ch 10

[thick sphinx]

Get noir cone , spot and beagle and bait kill

[hidden axle]

You place a bait defender to hold enemies in place, let cannon go boom on said defender, next thing you see is no enemies remaining

[plucky flint]

bro still stuck there

[thick sphinx]

Two are enough most of the times

[rustic eagle]

Im aware, but on this stage its much more awkward to use

[plucky flint]

have you tried the best solution?

[rustic eagle]

Tell me how I’m supposed to do it here

[plucky flint]

watch guides

[hidden axle]

Be smart with your op placements

[thick sphinx]

I didn't t level any defenders, so my stupid ahh used my army of guards for that shit

[hidden axle]

Or yk borrow mudrock/penance and braindead it

[thick sphinx]

Mudrock doesn't die for some reason

[hidden axle]

Actually

A goos brick also works

[thick sphinx]

[hidden axle]

Jist give them a medic with long range like purestream

So they cant quit their job

[rustic eagle]

Those can’t cover both lanes tho

[thick sphinx]

You could tank your way out of ch 10

[rustic eagle]

How do I place them

[plucky flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFRTHaxz3ag

[daring escarp]

Ulpipi feels nothing

[thick sphinx]

But it's much harder

[unkempt lintel]

this actually call for e2 cuora

[thick sphinx]

You only bait one lane 😭

[plucky flint]

nah bro even e1 should do the job

[unkempt lintel]

anyway, cant bait cannon??? like even noir should work

[hidden axle]

Bro why does kyo and exko guide use chalter flr this stage

[rustic eagle]

What abt the other one then

I can’t hold all the elites long enough

Or kill them

[hidden axle]

https://youtu.be/Q0EQYTMv_l4?si=a0lrl5adsoOb4TID

[plucky flint]

tbf this chapter is like few years old

[thick sphinx]

😭

You hold one lane with range units and low block like guards.

Place a defender with the most slugs, and let the defense work slowly

[rustic eagle]

Idk my gravel can stall the sword guy like that she just gets one shot

[thick sphinx]

If u want use more defenders

[hidden axle]

Lmao 10-16 is co-incidentally mudrock's module missiom stage
https://youtu.be/BDMTj05y8E4?si=BV73YhGHJ51PxWx7

[plucky flint]

ah yes, narwheryl my anni afk guide

[rustic eagle]

Again

I can’t hold the other lane tho

[naive holly]

Nah like both 11 and 12 were so smooth sailing

[hidden axle]

https://youtu.be/U6HdK3E8VJ0?si=luwEIwsE-1UjiHrz

[naive holly]

But ch13 make my clears look like this

[plucky flint]

can we see your ops again

[plucky flint]

later Koo will now send you a chinese vid guide for this shit

[rustic eagle]

#strategy message

I guess I’ll level up some stuff if I have to

[plucky flint]

ye how about a krooster link

that doesn't help unless you're asking who to raise

[elder flume]

Arf vid doesnt work ?

[plucky flint]

also you still haven't raised base slave??

[elder flume]

Thought his stuff is still E0 1 for majority of chap 10

[rustic eagle]

I didn’t do kroostee yet

[rustic eagle]

Which

[naive holly]

Yea I first fought 13-8 without seeing it but after seeing that my saki is unable to beat that elite up i just read about the elite and then cleared 13-8

[plucky flint]

that gravel

[hidden axle]

Time to get good at searching bili

[naive holly]

Just use arkguide

[rustic eagle]

Im super speeding through story to get most OG possible

[naive holly]

But it's 1/2 ops clear

[plucky flint]

tf is og? originium prime?

[rustic eagle]

Which means I spend the least sanity I can in the resource stages

[rustic eagle]

Yes

[rustic eagle]

So I lack the chips

[plucky flint]

have you tried other side stories

[rustic eagle]

Perhaps I’ll do one

[plucky flint]

[naive holly]

Oh it was not arkguide

[thick sphinx]

Lmao

H

[thick sphinx]

Borrow a mudrock

She can solo a lone

[plucky flint]

ye mate no wonder she gets one shotted

[rustic eagle]

I can’t hold the other lane tho then

[plucky flint]

but why

[thick sphinx]

I used matsukiri to still be able to deploy wisadel in start 🤣

Dude e1, he's just on th team for wis that time dp mech

[rustic eagle]

The only thing I have that deals dmg to elites is tequila

[naive holly]

You got walter?

Oh supports

[thick sphinx]

Use mudrock on one lane all ur ops on the other

[rustic eagle]

And he can’t kill them all or stall them long enough

[thick sphinx]

Soon my man, soon...

[naive holly]

I try to not use supports

[thick sphinx]

Mhmm

[rustic eagle]

I don’t even think all my ops are enough

[thick sphinx]

Show me your swuad

[rustic eagle]

I tried

[thick sphinx]

Squad

[rustic eagle]

^

It was also in the screenshot I sent

[thick sphinx]

Dude, go level up some operators

[rustic eagle]

If that’s what I must do ig

[thick sphinx]

U don't hv sakiko or joined after the event?

[rustic eagle]

Nah I started recently

[thick sphinx]

Ahh

Borrow wisadel

Bait with guards

[rustic eagle]

Im doing that

[thick sphinx]

Level up noir cone

He doesn't needa promotion

[rustic eagle]

Noir is maxed 👍

[thick sphinx]

Level 30 only iirc

[thick sphinx]

USE HIM

[rustic eagle]

I am 👍

[thick sphinx]

Why are all your Operators e1?

[naive holly]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1ka411e7mo

Ling

[plucky flint]

LMAO

[rustic eagle]

Cuz

[rustic eagle]

Ooooo

[naive holly]

I wonder if someone has a ling

[plucky flint]

but that's 10-17 bro

[rustic eagle]

I guess I have that for my next level

[naive holly]

Oh

[rustic eagle]

[naive holly]

Lmao

Wait

I'll see 10-16

[rustic eagle]

Ill try ling tho

[naive holly]

en.arkrec.com

For future reference

[naive holly]

Wait

I'll check

[rustic eagle]

She’s a way I can get good stats for my dp

I have friends with ling

[plucky flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j4UPJc6QaY

[thick sphinx]

😭

[plucky flint]

this one uses ling too

[rustic eagle]

Ill try ling

[thick sphinx]

You've negelected upgrading your ops cuz u though wis could do all ch rt?

[rustic eagle]

Should’ve thought of her

[thick sphinx]

[rustic eagle]

Well

I didn’t use only wis I had to use other ops too

[thick sphinx]

Guess your a dumber me

[rustic eagle]

But I’m just pushing as far as I can

With what I have

[naive holly]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1j34y1579b
https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1iouqzGECX

More ling

[elder flume]

Arf couldnt get adverse up due to 10-15 not easily doable with single carry iirc

[naive holly]

I think the first one had more views

I think

[naive holly]

Do they have s3 mastery though?

Wait you are doing adverse ?

Zechrad

[thick sphinx]

@rustic eagle

[naive holly]

Lmao all the adverse ones are 3 ops

[thick sphinx]

But all meta units

Sa2 banner bout to be so good

[naive holly]

Yea

[thick sphinx]

I wonder if the icebreaker game rewards or good smsm

[naive holly]

Wait no

2 ops

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1TH4y1G7W3

[thick sphinx]

💀

[naive holly]

Walter3 and deepcolor

Idk what does deepcolor do

[elder flume]

Ling but cheap

[thick sphinx]

She has only one summon rt?

[elder flume]

Wdym

[thick sphinx]

Walter 3?

[elder flume]

Shes a 5stack

[thick sphinx]

One tentacles

[naive holly]

Wisadel

[thick sphinx]

Ohh

Damn

[naive holly]

Skill 3

https://en.arkrec.com/operation/10-16%2B血刃高悬

[thick sphinx]

Why 3

[thick sphinx]

Ohh

[naive holly]

Just check this zechrad

I used this too for ch7 some level

Ling is pretty popular

[full terrace]

Hey rain, how many days have I been offline in your friend list 😂

Is Chapter 16 event over?

[plucky flint]

1 day and few hours left

[full terrace]

Ah thats plenty time to clear out H stages no prob

I only need like maybe 30 mins

[thick sphinx]

Wait what actually? Damn, I need to spend all my points

[rustic eagle]

I believe so

[rustic eagle]

Nah

[naive holly]

Yeah then just get a ling and follow the billibilli video

[rustic eagle]

I don’t get an extra reward for the same amount of sanity so I’m not doing it yet

[rustic eagle]

Alr, tysm for finding it for me btw 🙏

Perhaps I’ll give it some tries w ling by myself to see if I can do smth

[naive holly]

Yea

[naive holly]

Np

Just bookmark the website

[river atlas]

i dont understand how ppl are doing tragodia start for this stage

[pearl compass]

I put him on the center, from the left of this Patrick' bro.

[river atlas]

the cannon goes straight for tragodia when i try it but focuses the bottom row when i watch other ppl do it

[daring escarp]

You have trag, hoshi and wis. You just launch your miners when you place someone on that line

[pearl compass]

Don't forget - if Commander is present on the field, he will prio hitting Civs.

Even if Nightingale cages or Mlynar is present too.

[river atlas]

u can see the commander on the stage

[pearl compass]

Umm, yes, top right redbox.

[river atlas]

you can also see the artillery shell at the top landing on tragodia anyway

[pearl compass]

Yeah, cus there's civs nearby.

[plucky flint]

I used trag for top lane here

[naive holly]

I tried that level like 10 times

[river atlas]

Apparently the issue was the tragodia i borrowed is too whale

[naive holly]

That level is too hard

For me

[daring escarp]

?

Yes its kinda

[river atlas]

The civilian is supposed to die early but mine survives

[daring escarp]

Wtf

[river atlas]

H4 stages tend to be brutal

[naive holly]

Oh

I meant the normal

The level which looked like this

16-15 iirc

Oh that doesn't look like 16-15 at all

Lmaoo

[river atlas]

For 16-15 bring someone who can taunt the cannon or something

[naive holly]

Already did a ton of hit and trial

[elder flume]

Like a Mlynar surrounded by 8 Kazi

[hexed zodiac]

Lemuen will benefit greatly from like 20-40 cheap levels

[naive holly]

Ah that's an old image

[winter inlet]

16-16 https://www.krooster.com/u/big-rose-almond-078k

Can do first phase alright but second phase always ends badly

[hexed zodiac]

No masteries and only mod 1 on your main source of damage is rough

[rocky rivet]

how much def do u need to tank bear on h16-4?

[winter inlet]

Ye lol started like a month ago

[hexed zodiac]

I’m not confident but I’ll see what there’s out there

[azure roost]

wao

[river atlas]

unless this is just for fun dont bother

[rocky rivet]

im asking because my hoshi couldnt tank bear without shining s3

[azure roost]

h16-4?

[rocky rivet]

ya

[azure roost]

is hoshi mod3? x

that help her

[rocky rivet]

no mastery, mod x 1

[azure roost]

oh

[rocky rivet]

i was running with warfarin second healer because my bottom lane holder was struggling

(first half)

[spice prairie]

don't be shy to google for guide when you are new player

[azure roost]

who u grabbing on supp

?

[rocky rivet]

gonna try again wtih shining s3 hope it works but

im grabbing hoshi alt on s2

[azure roost]

i see

that hoshi is for bottom lane

rivht?

on phase 1

[rocky rivet]

yeah

im following kyo guide, but i dont own mlynar

[river atlas]

The bear has 1560 base atk in p1 and 2760 in p2

[azure roost]

[rocky rivet]

necrass+sakiko on middle, ifrit on bottom lane to help hoshi alt for the 2 gundams

the issue is that im depending on sakiko to snipe the airplane on top row, bc my silverash doesnt have mod to kill it as per the guide

[azure roost]

my sa dont have mod

when i killed the top

ursus drone

[rocky rivet]

and bc no mlynar to dps boss, im running pallas s3 to buff surtr

[azure roost]

lvl 60

[plucky flint]

what's with hoshi2 borrow in H16-4

[azure roost]

bottom lane

[rocky rivet]

to hold bottom lane

[hidden axle]

Ideal borrow is yu with s2 yeah

[plucky flint]

wouldn't trag be your best pick

[azure roost]

ngl you could use normal hoshi s2

with ifrit

[hexed zodiac]

https://youtu.be/eoCXjaGMGdw?si=eXQyUBdj6Z5vTA5N

Haruka borrow and we need to use fodder to replace ulipi, you also don’t have invis reveal but we can use fodder for that as well

[plucky flint]

uhh, just use surtr then the robot is there

[azure roost]

have shining healing at bottom

[rocky rivet]

maybe my timing is bad then, because he never brings the drone to below half

[hexed zodiac]

It’s rough you’ll need to bring a flag to stay on top of dp gen

[rocky rivet]

ill try that, didnt think of that

[azure roost]

since ifrit can handle bottom lane very well

[rocky rivet]

i need her to clear top side stuff off cooldown
following kyostinv guide without mlynar

[winter inlet]

Ok I’ll take myrtle and try it out

[azure roost]

just use shining healing normal hoshi at bottom lane

ngl i didnt even bother using s3 there

i just s2

just use s3 shining if u felt hoshi not dodging enough

[rocky rivet]

she has enough hp for 2 s3 rotations so its fine

like 2.8 s3 rotations bc she dies on the last one

[hexed zodiac]

Grab bodies like spot cuora yato noir corne gravel even Projekt red for redeploy timer

[rocky rivet]

but theres nothing to kill on the last skill if you kill the boss first

what sup should i bring instead?

to nuke boss on first and second phase

[azure roost]

when in doubt bring the french

or miss idol if you doubt ur healing on phase2

[hexed zodiac]

Also notice how in the first phase he doesn’t care then ulipi died bc he killed the boss before they leaked

[azure roost]

[plucky flint]

then you can place sakiko in the middle, she can reach bottom with s3

[azure roost]

hello fyril pro dalao

[plucky flint]

no I'm not

[winter inlet]

Should I try elite 1 then all?

[hexed zodiac]

Uhhh spot cuora yato gravel and corne yeah but not red

[rocky rivet]

im dropping her here to snipe the top drone

ill try again to kill the drone with silverash but idk im noob

[azure roost]

@rocky rivet u should know how to burst boss p1 right

[fickle marsh]

You can 3 op phase 1 with trag s2, silverash, wisadel

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UrWCz2EqV/?spm_id_from=333.1391.0.0&vd_source=ec4b191cbd74f0f79aecf4bbf1639e58

[rocky rivet]

i think so

[plucky flint]

well, you have a guide following so I really can't comment more

[azure roost]

thats why ur pro dalao fyril

[winter inlet]

Don’t got cuora rn should I buy her with ticket from certificate shop?

[plucky flint]

[rocky rivet]

me?

[azure roost]

huh

[hexed zodiac]

No, you can use gummie bubble or beagle instead

[winter inlet]

Aight

[hexed zodiac]

The Haruka should do most of the heavy lifting but we are filling your squad with fodder so when they die new ones can be rotated in

[azure roost]

god haruka is just dumb abjurer

[plucky flint]

yes also I haven't watch the guide ur copying

[rocky rivet]

https://youtu.be/qzqSBWPa-rw?si=hfdwrIZvE8Se2GeB&t=973

[hexed zodiac]

bubbles

[rocky rivet]

timestamped, im missing mlynar

[azure roost]

haruka required blood sacrifice of previous abjurers to be good

[rocky rivet]

substituting like 3 ops to fill role

[azure roost]

[winter inlet]

How does this look

[hexed zodiac]

The best healer isn’t even a healer

[hexed zodiac]

Saria best skill (and really only one you should use) is S1 not S2

Otherwise looks good, S1 radian is a good choice

[winter inlet]

Ok wish me luck

[hexed zodiac]

You’ll need it sorry I can’t also try it I’m at work rn

[azure roost]

s2 is just

[winter inlet]

Np

[azure roost]

even with mastery, its just sad.

[hexed zodiac]

Good news is you won’t miss out on anything since this is a story event, you can come back anytime and complete it

[azure roost]

god now i fucking remember m9 propaganda saria on #help @plucky flint

[rocky rivet]

wow tragodia is so crazy

[plucky flint]

I like the first e2 myrtle propaganda better

[hexed zodiac]

Top 3 op for a reason

[azure roost]

atleast that shit is gone

[hidden axle]

Yk its been ages since I saw an e2 myrtle in a newbie's account today in #help

[azure roost]

cause of beginner e2 5★

[exotic grove]

I see one every week or two

[azure roost]

those are just coping

i still remember fighting who recommended e2 myrtle first on #help

same for m9 saria

when in doubt

[last stream]

wait, people are not encouraged to e2 myrtle anymore? then which vanguard are we using?

[azure roost]

use the french man

[rocky rivet]

yeah, i think i have to replan second phae

[azure roost]

she is the same as e1 lvl 7 on e2 lvl 7 plus i rather waste my mastery mats on dps

than fucking vanguard

[rocky rivet]

is there any problem with killing the main boss first, and focusing the bear after in phase 2

[maiden hound]

yes sir. deploying shalem

[fickle marsh]

I used this one for phase 2 since I have mon3tr/sakiko/surtr/ines https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BoWEz8Ead

[last stream]

french man who

[rocky rivet]

im missing 3 of those ops 😭 😭 😭

[azure roost]

just use e1 lvl 1 skill lvl 7 myrtle

so ur material go to better dps unit instead

[hidden axle]

Gen content works with sl7 myrtle

As for vg e2 recs its vulpi/ines/surfer/canta/upcoming sa2

[rocky rivet]

https://www.krooster.com/u/lively-cherry-heron-071z

tyyyy

[last stream]

i skipped year 4 to year 6, is myrtle not the "operator that exists in every squad" anymore?

[hidden axle]

I mean

Natural dp generation suffices for 90% gen content

If you dont have any of those I mentioned myrtle/ely/sail work just fine

[elder flume]

80% of my squad usually consists of Myrtle Bagpipe Ines

[hidden axle]

You iz stacked person

[azure roost]

mine is just bgp ines mumu

saileach if i need s3

[plucky flint]

I'm using myrtle ely ines

[elder flume]

other times its Bagpipe Ines Chilchuck Zima Texas Confess Fang2

[hidden axle]

I just bring ely/canta, deploying them is a different story

[azure roost]

if lazy asf

i use siege

[hidden axle]

[rocky rivet]

i got pot6 siege last week

[hidden axle]

Shrimply deploy sakikp first like me

[azure roost]

ngl zima siege bgp combo is just dumb

i use it for lazy dp gen

s1 zima, s2 on those two

[last stream]

i bring myrtle + canta in all my runs

[azure roost]

my canta is kinda dead on my cn acc

because of ines

[hidden axle]

Give me your ines

[azure roost]

[hidden axle]

[azure roost]

wtf

[hidden axle]

shoots

[thick sphinx]

Yo

[thick sphinx]

[azure roost]

[hidden axle]

Why does ken have a delta beside his name now

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

Why not

[hidden axle]

Go back to being arknoob

[thick sphinx]

-# idk, nameplate looked kinda lame lol

[thick sphinx]

No.

[thick sphinx]

-# why do u still remember ts

[rocky rivet]

all good, tysm for the tragodia vid

[thick sphinx]

[plucky flint]

btw, if you're interested with aciddrip killing prts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--OvBjIVx-M

[hidden axle]

My aciddrop already e2 max

Just gotta get masteries and mod

[plucky flint]

I wish her mod gives atk instead of this shitty def

[rustic eagle]

First of all ty made it🙏

Second, is there a possibility there are any differences in the game? I had to change some things

Like for example getting the first dragon on time, I had to stall it because I didn’t have the dp in time

[azure roost]

lol

[plucky flint]

yes, a lot

frames usually fucks up your auto specially in tight clears

[rustic eagle]

It was a lot more significant I feel tho

I could not afford the dragon in time like the guy did so I just had to delay w plume

[plucky flint]

mod levels?

pots as well

[winter inlet]

Struggled to kill boss in first stage

Don’t think I got enough dmg output

[hexed zodiac]

You’ll need masteries yeah. There are ops like click but it won’t tip the scales enough and you’ll need Haruka to keep him alive

And at least mod 2

Revisit the stage after you pull silver ash and pram alter in the coming limited banner Ezpz

[winter inlet]

Ok…

[winter inlet]

also does adverse buff mob hp or just give butterflies invisibility on 16-16

[hexed zodiac]

Butterflies are invis on seconded map but you can just place an op in their way before blue box and they will jump to the op, you can either make the boss harder or spawn more mech enemies

[weak gazelle]

hmm
i like trag mantra duo (both s1)
apparently is potent enough for gen content

[hexed zodiac]

Do the cement boss clear

[naive holly]

Thing is

I tried even after the eckogen guide

He says to use exu2 in top tile

How do I adapt to that

[spice prairie]

Find another guide

[naive holly]

Fire

[naive holly]

Kyostinv

Didn't see his vid

[spice prairie]

Joke aside, you could replace 1 unit with an equivalent or if the slots aren't tied, 2 units.

[young glen]

around 700 with haruka

[azure roost]

🧊

[hollow turtle]

how do I reveal invisible drones

[hidden axle]

If its ch 16, they die on contact so you can bait them

[hollow turtle]

how do i bait them? can i put a defender in the center?

[hidden axle]

Even gravel works

[pearl compass]

You just put whatever to make them kamikaze to your ops.

[hexed zodiac]

They attack any op that is within like melee range of them so just place op next to them before they enter your blue box

[hollow turtle]

kay kay

[plucky flint]

this drone is just like the chapter 11 but with haze after death

[fickle hill]

By looking at arcrec instead

[hollow turtle]

does mylnar aggro the boss from h16-4 ignoring placement order?

[naive holly]

Here is the new image

Everyone got some upgrades

[naive holly]

I wanna clear without supports

[sly drift]

He will die to dominion instakill unless you bait every boss dominion atk.

[hollow turtle]

nvm, the boss just fucking kills him

🪦

[sly drift]

Exactly how it stated

[hollow turtle]

im redeploying a lot, im so cooked dp-wise next phase

[hidden axle]

Yeah mlynar's taunt works against him for p1

[hollow turtle]

this is the last phase right

idk what to do from here hmm

[hidden axle]

Only 1 phase

Also theres bear

[hexed zodiac]

They didn’t get mods tho

[hollow turtle]

whats the bear pathing?

[fickle hill]

ahh
welp
a lot of your units are still missing some upgrades
But if theyre not already near clutching the map, then idk how much rushing those mods and masteries will help
might as well just wait and clear it later

[hollow turtle]

nvm it shows me

[fickle hill]

Bear aggro management simulator

[hidden axle]

You can also make the bear fight yurodstova

[river atlas]

U have all the ops for bear cheese

[hidden axle]

Yu s2 gaming

[hollow turtle]

me: using yu s3 🤣 💀

i only have tragodia here

[naive holly]

I am poor bro

[fickle hill]

you could also just aggro the bear to walk all the way there

[naive holly]

I just finished ulpianus after doing is missions

[hollow turtle]

if the bears lands a hit on it, will it stuck on it or do i need to consitently aggro to it

[naive holly]

Not really finished

But uh

Goodn

[fickle hill]

the bear will attack the boss as long as it is in the bears attack range

so like
functionally, the bear will kill the boss once he touches them
cause theres no way the bear and the boss can cross path while having them run away (i think)

[hollow turtle]

is the sniping boss gonna start hitting the moment I spawn in my units, 🥹

[hidden axle]

Werent you told to finish base slaves first

[hollow turtle]

or is there no uptime

mann fuck it we ball

the miners walk up to the red boxses right? or is it blue for this map

[naive holly]

I was doing is missions for ulpianus since last week

So I just e2'd him

I had a ton of is missions

[fickle hill]

phase 2 they run to the top blue

[naive holly]

I'll work on base slaves now

[hollow turtle]

gotcha

[naive holly]

To streamline lmd

[naive holly]

Yea I am not in a rush

[hollow turtle]

actually, is it worth placing any sustain (haruka + laneholders) or just entirely focus on baiting boss snipes and bait bear to boss?

[naive holly]

I did till where I could

I'll try again if I don't forget to

[last stream]

is aak still the strongest dps buff?

[fickle hill]

personally think its simpler to just bait

unless you have an immortal unit trynna stall the bear is kinda wack

[sterile delta]

depends on the skill you're buffing

[last stream]

monster only provides aspd buff rigth?

[sterile delta]

no

her reconstruct also gives +atk%

+15%, +25% with module, +30% at p3

[hollow turtle]

yeah no, how tf do u bait the bear into a nonvision undeployable zone

[fickle hill]

I think you can get one miner to the top by activating the device asap, but i could be misremembering

Then you use like SA or Hoshi2 s3 to pull the bear up

Assuming you dont just teleport

[plucky flint]

save your allies, protect the miners, be the leader of the revolution

[hollow turtle]

🥀

[plucky flint]

lmao

why did you even finished it with 2 star

[hollow turtle]

I killed the other boss eventually, due to the miners. But the bear..

[hollow turtle]

footprints

💔

I should've just brute force the bear

maybe I do need to use haruka s3

but then I'd lack sustain on 1st

[last stream]

so monster gives +25% atk and + 50ish aspd on S2 while healing the squad meanwhile aak kills himself and his target just to get +55% atk +55% aspd 😅

[naive holly]

Cuora tanks the bear right ?

Just talking about normal mode

[fossil sphinx]

monst3r is a king's new lance
known good relic

[naive holly]

Not adverse

[fickle hill]

yes
think she can do adverse too, if the bear doesnt get the +atk buff

[naive holly]

Pog

I'll build cuora after base slaves

[hollow turtle]

is sakiko enough on the bottom blue box in h16-4

for mass-wipe

or is she more of a single-target dps

[fossil sphinx]

she does st dps mostly

[mental venture]

honestly feels like one of the worst bosses ive fought oat

he just kills your ops because fuck you

[fossil sphinx]

tragodia:

oh we have tragodia
unfortunate

[mental venture]

he dies too because why npt

this boss is horseshit man

[fossil sphinx]

join is central for details on how to stall the boss with just tragodia + gravel

its laughably easy once you figure it out

[hidden axle]

He's actually well-designed and kinda fun once you figure him out yeah

[fossil sphinx]

avoid him altogether by playing nothing but 23 or 24 runs instead

[mental venture]

im doing tour one i cant avoid this dickhead

[hidden axle]

Raidian solo run just becoz why not
https://youtu.be/DfD9_Z4himw?si=WUJIBNxLHEf7Q1Iy
21/xx trick for yii
https://youtu.be/iXXqCCl8Buk?si=5oye99_tyM4TTmr0

The entire playlist if you want
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6CYZiiKj17SM5IT-L4O7d2M_09WJAgKZ&si=dtPXf0xMtqU4qAlz

[fossil sphinx]

you can win with no one if you try hard enough

[hidden axle]

[naive holly]

Huh

Is this a bug?

[elder flume]

doesnt look like bug just good rng

[glass monolith]

Feature, just get combination of relics to kill everyone

Wait

The fuck

forest divided by flower field, source please

[fossil sphinx]

you leak everything on f1 and then ling loop its very anticlimatic 😔

and then leak literally every other enemy in the game with your thousands of lp

[undone herald]

Yi is a completely fair boss fight you just need to actually learn his mechanics

[glass monolith]

Laugh in ending 5 with 50 minutes till boss time out unless your game time out first

[fossil sphinx]

you can still eat the ending 5 boss you just need like 3k lp or something

[hollow turtle]

what a sight honestly

oof my screenshot was not screenshotting

but logos s3 was holding the shots

was satisfying af

and 60% sanctuary is 🤌

[undone herald]

If Yi is killing your Tragodia it means you’re either deploying him in the wrong spot or failing to block Yi

With a Tragodia strat he shouldn’t be getting past the top row

[daring escarp]

Either agents or better flags, sometimes you dont even need vanguards funnily enough

[hollow turtle]

omg

the 1st phase is easy af

the 2nd phase however

the fucking bear is hard to control when u try to allow the miner to go top

AHG

[daring escarp]

Ines + yu

Or bait + therapist + any of hoshi to stall bear/totter

I prefer hoshi stall

[hollow turtle]

I tried ines on the 1st tile near blue tile, to lure him to her. So the miner could go on top, but the fucking butterlfy killed it 🥹

[sour sable]

Uh guys strategy for h16-3?

[daring escarp]

I had mon3tr s3 solo left lane, and trag + hoshi2 w/ haruka on right side

[sour sable]

I

Don't have monst3r

[daring escarp]

You can add arts dealer/elemental dealer on left lane during last push

[sour sable]

And trag

[daring escarp]

Trag borrow is easier tbh

Just because paralyze against those golem bombers

[sour sable]

Should I borrow for left lane?

[hollow turtle]

huh

[daring escarp]

What's your squad looking like

[sour sable]

New map phase cuh

[hollow turtle]

maybe I needa use haruka's s3 rlly early than I expected while using ines/vulpis to lure him into blue box

[daring escarp]

I gotta imagine how the lacking sides are

Haruka s3 is goated

[hollow turtle]

4 attempts now

cuz I keep fucking up

the bait

and becuz the butterflies keep touching my damn miners

[sour sable]

[hollow turtle]

how tf am I suppose to defend from the butterflies if they r aoe

there like trags cat but on the enemy side

[daring escarp]

Yea just borrow mon3tr

Left lane is cancer

[sour sable]

Can u show me a vid on how tf she solos left with s3

[daring escarp]

Brb

[sour sable]

I'm confused on how her skill uptime could let her solo

[daring escarp]

https://b23.tv/uQScLVy

[sour sable]

[daring escarp]

You can ignore silverass s3

[sour sable]

I'm guessing in that vid the siblings are for the right?

[daring escarp]

Basically if you starting to leak a bit you replace roadblocks

[daring escarp]

Pram on middle but you can do whztever

Cuz mon3tr heals the miners

So you wont worry about being offskill

And you just basically stall until mon3tr s3 and dps them

[sour sable]

Ohhh

Wait does monst3r heal pram2 on that tile

[daring escarp]

https://b23.tv/iXSsW6R

Another reference video

[daring escarp]

Well yes since construct extra range and s3 its too

[sour sable]

[daring escarp]

Pram has survivability in her kit too

Well

[fossil sphinx]

self revive

[daring escarp]

And higher defense stats offskill

[hollow turtle]

medic heal miner or vulpis bait butterlfy to save miner

why is this very micro moment so important

the designer for this map should take a vacate holy

[glass monolith]

Why game makes me play it 😠

[hollow turtle]

🫠

[daring escarp]

Bait the attack with something tanky like mlynar, and second before butterfly ypu have someone to stall

[hollow turtle]

😂 this map is making me stressed

Haruka was levitating him too

and its m3

and the boss kills the miner

so how tf do yall get vision there until haruka's s3 runs out

AHGG

[plucky flint]

shrimply use medics to make miners alive

[hollow turtle]

thats too much microing, I already had to place trag, then ines, haruka, andmylnar for bait and up to 99 max dp with medciore regen

or maybe I could do it..

hm

[hexed zodiac]

Reedalt heals miners 🥀

[hollow turtle]

somehow I pulled off making the bear take his phase

what is he doing?

is he going to exit out like he did on his first appearance stage?

[plucky flint]

he needs to use bathroom

in the stairs

[daring escarp]

Phase 2 surprise surprise

[hollow turtle]

gg

[daring escarp]

2 stars pog

[hollow turtle]

getting sniped by both bosses crazyyy

I give up lmfao

[plucky flint]

tbh you could lure the boss the other way without using s2 yu

[daring escarp]

3 vgs is concerning me more

[plucky flint]

use hoshi2 in the top tile to lure the bear there

much easier than trying to yu teleport tbh

[daring escarp]

Its easier to hoshi stall and then yu tp atp

[plucky flint]

hmm, now that I think of it, ye you can just use ines to reveal the boss

then teleport

[daring escarp]

@hollow turtle dont you have lumen built iirc

[plucky flint]

just to be clear, no borrow for this one right?

[hollow turtle]

so I can deploy my units faster, it was a three path. I place matsukiri on top blue with exu2 to handle top while exu2 gets more ammo and aspd.

and I have mylnar+logos on middle (early ines to slow the slippers from mid and bot lane by targeting ines downwards and retreat her later. Also cuz her bind is useful. But i keep fucking her up in bear phase)

Then eventually I replace mastukiri to vulpis, for stun+dps to handle top while exu2 is out of ammo for the end-part of the 1st phase. Then exu2 finishes em off.
Then I'd just abuse the normal, haruka s3, mylnar s3, and dps dps shred mid

[hollow turtle]

no borrow

[hollow turtle]

I do, I have mon3tr, eyjalter, lumen, and haruka

[daring escarp]

Mon3tr

[fossil sphinx]

for the 2nd phase i had leizi2 and tragodia stall could be worth a try

its narrow enough that her s3 is reasonably perma tremble

[hollow turtle]

These were the teams I keep trying to attempt with

idk if I could use sakiko

Mylnar is my big carry for the 1st phase for dps due to true dmg and shred

Its just the damn 2nd phase, those micro things.

At first I just keep being late at using ines/vulpis to lure bear near blue box

so I can use haruka's s3 to delay him

[hexed zodiac]

Ok well use haruka S2

[sour sable]

What stage u on adepti

[hollow turtle]

then use that time to put a bait for the butterflies

and have a medic for the miners

but the thing is, that damn boss is targeting my shit

AHGG

[hollow turtle]

H16-4

[sour sable]

I'm not even done with h16-3

Monst3r keeps dying to missiles man

[hollow turtle]

s2 is great for 1st phase. 2nd phase not so much. I have a hard time baiting bear so I figured using s3. Also s3 works pretty well in 1st phase. You just need to time it well. During the mechs missiles and drones and boss

[hollow turtle]

thats why I dont mon3tr, weak ass heals. Other than buffs

use*

[fossil sphinx]

I got carried

[hollow turtle]

anyways I give up for now, ima try again later

[hexed zodiac]

Monster “weak heals”

[hollow turtle]

ykw I mean dammit

[daring escarp]

I had setup almost like this @hollow turtle
Lime - mon3tr + construct to bait yuro
Brownish - eyjalter
Teal - hoshi2 stalling
Just remember to activate device at first 2 seconds

[hollow turtle]

i never thought of using mon3tr's summon like that

[daring escarp]

Idk how viable this is tbh, you need some dp

[hollow turtle]

interesting

welp who knows.

im taking a break

5-7 attempts by now jeez

[daring escarp]

1st phase is doable 3-5 ops btw

[hidden axle]

Real I havent done h16-3 and h16-4 yet cuz I am in a mood to braindead stages atm conpleted ch 12 today

[fluid flint]

i used haruka nian and mon3tr and just tank the bear

and saki killed other boss with silver ash

[plucky flint]

why did I read something else for a sec

[sour sable]

I've done 13 attempts at h16-3

It's time to sleep

[hollow turtle]

Oh how, cuz I used all my ops making them expensive af 2nd phase lmao

[hidden axle]

Eyha2 borrow trust

[daring escarp]

Gn

[hidden axle]

Keep miners alive

[hollow turtle]

Oh damn, is it bad if I flex that it took me one-two tries for all the previous stages?

[daring escarp]

Yes, that's why optimisation is important

[hollow turtle]

I have to rub salt on u cuz this -4 stage is AHG

[daring escarp]

And matsu and vulpi doing nothing

[sour sable]

Not really I mean look at ur ops

And look at mine

[fluid flint]

h16-3 was harder than 16-4 for me

[hollow turtle]

You might be right

[daring escarp]

Replace them with mon3tr and gravel

[fluid flint]

took more attempts

[hollow turtle]

I think its placebo or whatever

Cuz like three paths and so many mobs coming in

[hidden axle]

Adepti if you struggle with what you have you should stub your toe everyday for a week

[hollow turtle]

And I just thought stun and binds would be helpful

[plucky flint]

I find h3 harder cuz I'm blind asf to not use roadblocks

[hidden axle]

I was bruteforcing the entire time and forgot keepi g miners alive is a thing

[daring escarp]

Yea same, i sometimes dont see roadblocks in a corner(phone block view)

[hollow turtle]

To be fair its just a matter of time. I just find it a struggle.

[hidden axle]

As much as eyja2 can help ease that out I just wamna braindead atm

[plucky flint]

cleared it without roadblocks, idk how many attempts

not fun tbh

[rocky rivet]

im gonna shoot myself this final level is so hard

[hollow turtle]

Ive done cc and i just passed the previous stages with little to no effort

[daring escarp]

Miners are stalling meat fr

[hollow turtle]

This one just requires me having to micro manage a lot

That or I need to start thinking like a BTD MASTER

[hidden axle]

Once again shoud be bad if you struggled with those ops

[hollow turtle]

Anyone would 💔

[plucky flint]

I wanna 🥄 this guy but I guess sleep is a lot better for me now

[hidden axle]

Like bro with that roster hard content like IS beyind d10 and cc beyind 620 (actually make that 700) are the only flexworthy things

[hollow turtle]

Unless you overanalyze the whole thing and able to be fast enough to improvise or manage

[daring escarp]

Well except for the ak that we cant hyperbuff that much like btd has

[hidden axle]

And low ops

[hollow turtle]

TD master then

[daring escarp]

You can spam the same units

[hollow turtle]

Im not even trying to be braindead, the fact is that im changing skills trying ops and new placements

Maybe cuz I have a slow reaction or something

[river atlas]

Why is reaction time relevant

[fluid flint]

this is what i used maybe u can just do something similar? saria and eyja pretty much did nothing

[hollow turtle]

Cuz micro things between each act

[river atlas]

the pause button is right there

[daring escarp]

Strategy is a strategy

[plucky flint]

you lack on understanding the mechanics

[hollow turtle]

Well im aware of the boss mechanics, miners can be healed and the flowers and mist

Not sure what im missing

Oh and the butterflies and hidden drones

[plucky flint]

bear aggro

[hollow turtle]

And how u need to kikl the commander or whatever for mechs

[daring escarp]

Not really a problem but sure

[hollow turtle]

I beaten two of the bears how else did I reach to 16/4

H*

[plucky flint]

first time having invi bear I mean

[hollow turtle]

Invis, I have ines

Reveal reveal reveal

And bind

And aggro

Haruka s3

[hidden axle]

Now that I think about it, we didnt have many commanders in story stages they really made a mechanic reserved for h stages

[hollow turtle]

Trag bait

Nylnar tank butertlfies

And medic to heal miners

And then yu

Then aggro bair to boss

That was the plab

[plucky flint]

that's why idk how you still not managing with that

[hollow turtle]

I just keep fucking it ip

Micro things

[daring escarp]

Np, more tries = easier

I've beaten it after 6h of tries

[hollow turtle]

Yeah prob

I know I can do it, I just need tighten my muscles and lock in

[daring escarp]

Since i didnt want to complicate random things in my clear

[daring escarp]

LMFAO gl then

[hollow turtle]

So far two hours for me

Im struggling but im THAT struggling

Not*

eek

[hollow turtle]

tyty

[plucky flint]

feels like you need sleep too

[hollow turtle]

Prob 😭

[daring escarp]

I've slept 4h today

[hidden axle]

Break helps

[daring escarp]

I might need too

[hidden axle]

Burning out on is6 made me play bad, taking a break made me skyrocjet

[hollow turtle]

Lmao I feel crying 🤣

[hidden axle]

Locked in so hard that I forgot that I am supposed to do ed3 in d10 so I got trim before raidian mod3

[plucky flint]

idk when will I have the energy to play IS just to max out raidian

[hidden axle]

Do you want the secret

[plucky flint]

I don't wanna play 30-45 mins for a single run

will that speed up the process

[hidden axle]

It would make it a lot easier

[daring escarp]

I spend at least an hour

[plucky flint]

what could that be

[hidden axle]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6CYZiiKj17SM5IT-L4O7d2M_09WJAgKZ&si=Fi8cPyc1Nqikq1Wd

[plucky flint]

those time references was when I'm still playing IS3

[hidden axle]

(I am shilling this guy a lot recently ngl )

[plucky flint]

bro my raidian is literally e0

[hidden axle]

Its okay

[daring escarp]

1h is average tbh

I cant go lower

[plucky flint]

hence this

[daring escarp]

Ayo

[hidden axle]

Surely by d4 you'll be fine

[daring escarp]

I can confirm its viable

[hidden axle]

Wdym confirm who's doubting it thats with evidence

[plucky flint]

[daring escarp]

LMFAO

[plucky flint]

if not for the update it could be longer than that

[daring escarp]

I have a context, I'll explain in dms if you want

[hidden axle]

Sure

[daring escarp]

Cuz it's such a story i had it's eating me from inside

[hidden axle]

[thick sphinx]

What the fuck 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bro been grinding ingots and made a whole life there lol

[lost hollow]

Help me with 10-7 red bull wasn't enough.

[daring escarp]

Sakiko place brrrr everything gone. Have a bait for cannons like noir corne

[hidden axle]

Does poncirus do anything in this team

[glass monolith]

Cute

[hidden axle]

Vendela>>>

[naive holly]

There are so many 5 stars