strategy

[noble pewter]

n all the fog middle is gone

for free

[thick sphinx]

Welp meh, imma go see

I need to do sm, so busy for 2 hrs

[noble pewter]

then u just put block lower left n 2 more block upper right, only one path enemy go thru the middle which is now all nice and cleared

u put a cuora or something high phy def, n supported by one medic bottom, they tank everything cause enemy no arts dmg

[glad brook]

Anyway, thank you all. You really are the Geniuses of the Game, each of you. ♥

[noble pewter]

then u keep press the mantra s3 when u feel is time to do it

[thick sphinx]

Check my bio krooster if I have any four stars built other than myrtle 💀

[noble pewter]

silverash s2 tank .. if u desperation

or just gavial s2 maybe it can interrupt mech rocket casting animation

or just beagle , u have haruka too anyways

just throw down surtr panic button too

[thick sphinx]

Oh wow

[thick sphinx]

I tried, didn't work, the mechanics walked through her 💀

[noble pewter]

the more mech waste time shoot rocket at u the slower they move n u rechagred mantra s3 n it kill

[thick sphinx]

Will read later, need to go do sm

Thx

[river atlas]

Build yo 4*s smh

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

[glad brook]

Maybe just put up a whole bunch of defenders with arts damage?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Looks like dude will help you, i can chill then

[rustic eagle]

anyone has advice on 16-15, i couldnt find any single opp strats and with mine im really struggling

[noble pewter]

show roster

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/dpR_Umpdx5s?si=scyr9etXksAw6ioe here is the clear using the ops u owned n 1 "borrowed" mantra I couldn't find any mantra so I used my substandard one which required haruka to survive

[thick sphinx]

Ouch

[thick sphinx]

Kay, imma go home and check it out thx

[noble pewter]

just use wisadel, put topmost tile face down, press skill to kill when all enemy is die n left bottom redeploy to bottom n press skill to kill

u might think wis no adjacent tile n cant invis is bad, but is good for us this stage cause enemy no other ranged unit except artillery which is long range n this will prevent summons spawn adjacent to wis n make artillery bomb her, as long u are deploy other stuff wisadel is forever safe this stage n free to kill all other enemy

then u just use 3 star medic to heal ur miner n they scout map for u, n u put any other unit to kill artillery n stuff

there is also no commander this stage so the arti wont target miner which can random danger wis

[rustic eagle]

my attempts were as you said i think, but i struggle really hard with dealing with the big guys bottom left that wis cant reach and the artillery simultaneously

maybe its time to E1 some healer

[fallow vine]

the last 2 in the event is so hard. it stress me out, lol

[hexed zodiac]

Ptilo or silence if you don’t have then pure stream or perfumer

[rustic eagle]

i will have ptilo tmrw

ill wait then

[hexed zodiac]

She’s a good owl

[noble pewter]

this is sorted by highest lvs ?

[rustic eagle]

yes, but nothing relevant is hidden i believe

[noble pewter]

so ur best medic is.. lv1?

for reals? challenge accepted if so

oh theres a lv20 hibiscus

[rustic eagle]

lvl 20 technically.. but close enough

yup lol

[noble pewter]

u played until 16-15 with only these units? impressive

[rustic eagle]

wisadel carry...

[noble pewter]

n all adverse or just normal?

[rustic eagle]

all adverse

[elder flume]

Ye Wis pretty much carries early accs

[rustic eagle]

im struggling with 7-9 too btw i seem to be stuck

[elder flume]

Its either Wis Pram2 Wang Ling

You can just borrow Sakiko for that

[rustic eagle]

is wang global yet?

[rustic eagle]

for what, 7-9?

[elder flume]

Ye

Solves 3 lanes

[rustic eagle]

how do i use her

at least gimme a hint, which skill do i use

ill try to figure it out from there

[elder flume]

.

[rustic eagle]

OOOO THANK YOU

[thick sphinx]

The limited banner after silver ash alter's one is wang, so like 4 months ish maybe

[rustic eagle]

is there some rng involved?

just to understand if i need to do numerous attemts or if im doing a mistake

[elder flume]

Sakiko shoots a random direction within 40degrees of range

Thats about the only rng

But that Noir is nowhere near death

Just right lane where you need to keep Jaye alive if underleveled

[rustic eagle]

i replaced noir with spot maybe thats what causes issues?

[elder flume]

Is your Spot tankier than my Noir

[rustic eagle]

no clue

[noble pewter]

the def stat look at it

n hp stat

i think ur noir is lv1? n ur spot is e1?

[rustic eagle]

alr lemme finish this attempt and we'll see

[elder flume]

Theres also 1 in 3 chance every op attacks a cycle faster or slower but doubt it matters for your run

And i only used 3 opd

You have 13 slots

And hopefully you didnt borrow a bum Sakiko

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/dyZAYfZ_jrQ?si=nBefdTtMF-0ELGKg just let them come to wis n skill the waves then u be fine, bait arti fire away from miners if u can, n try have some medic in range to heal them a bit, just raise ur 3 stars for easier time

[rustic eagle]

im using a noir thats level 21 and then replacing him with spot once i can afford it

[elder flume]

Noir wants level 30 for the talent unlock

[rustic eagle]

ooo thank you! ill move onto it once i can clear 7-9

[elder flume]

You can just keep cycling around chargers ig until you get enough dp

[rustic eagle]

alr, upgraded noir lets see

also i dont have the third op you used and im putting tequila top right instead but i didnt have issues on that yet

WAIT YOU CAN GET ORUNDUM IN SIMULATIONS FOR OPPS I DIDNT KNOQ

sorry very unrelated

[thick sphinx]

[rustic eagle]

my only goal has been pullfarming i shouldve known of this sooner

[hexed zodiac]

It’s like 200 tho

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

Do side stories, they're better

[elder flume]

200 x 368 moment

[thick sphinx]

When u put it like that
-# but all ops don't have simulation rt?

[hexed zodiac]

Something something need E2 first

[elder flume]

Not yet

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

Pain

[plucky mason]

I need help on H16-3, this is my roster and enemies keep on leaking and that one thing keeps on killing my operators with its DoT

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/OccultsCult

[rustic eagle]

how insane is it to level up low star ops just for the 200 orundums

[thick sphinx]

Me stuck here too.
I need to eat sm and try again lmao

[hexed zodiac]

You’ll get a much better roi if you just focus on raising base slaves before that

[thick sphinx]

U hv wisadel, just use haruka and ur done

[plucky mason]

I wish it was that easy

[thick sphinx]

[plucky mason]

I really do

[thick sphinx]

I tried it like that too lmfao, and I COULD NoT get pas 30 ememies

[hexed zodiac]

Actually I just checked your profile you’ve come a long way man congrats (still need to raise those base slaves tho)

[rustic eagle]

im just farming pulls for limited banner but fair enough

[thick sphinx]

Thx man!
2 months ago I felt like I would just by now have like. 4 or 5 maxed 6 stars 🤣

But sm i hv 11, feels great, IS 3,4,5 also done

[hexed zodiac]

After you get your base optimally working you’ll pump out plenty of exp and lmd to do as much skizo E2ing for 200 oru you want

[thick sphinx]

Just try to get around 45 to 50k lmd for now, daily

That should slowly start getting I to hoard mats

[hexed zodiac]

Definitely try to tackle the higher diffs in those ISs they are really fun (you’ll need to raise some of your 4 stars for that tho like gummie and click etc)

[thick sphinx]

I'm at 1.9mil lmd, and done pre farming mats for wisadel silverash alter and pramix alter.

Imma level them up first

Then base slavws

I might get better slaves at the banner anyways

-# I'm prefarming. For crownslayer

💀

I need some frd 6stars, and 16 second stun feels usefull on boss nodes

[hexed zodiac]

Cs was like the worst 6 star on release

[thick sphinx]

Her mod make her better now

[hexed zodiac]

Saved only by her mod somewhat

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah but that came out after

[thick sphinx]

She's out of the worst 20 6stars imo

[thick sphinx]

Hmm yea ig ur rt abt that

[rustic eagle]

@elder flume got 7-9, tysm!!🙏

now i know i can use sakiko and how as well

[rustic eagle]

do you mean events? for the og?👀

[thick sphinx]

I do not understand this question

Wdym the og

[rustic eagle]

what are side stories

and og i meant originte

[thick sphinx]

Intermezzi

The game shoud have shown you how to access the terminal rt?

[rustic eagle]

i think so? im not sure if i understands what those are

is the one where i unlocked tequila one of them

[thick sphinx]

Yea those ones

All of em

Just do them

[rustic eagle]

i see

is there any that doesnt take sanity

except heart of raging flame

[thick sphinx]

Only 1 i think

[thick sphinx]

Idk 🤣😑

[rustic eagle]

i see rip must be heart

[thick sphinx]

[wanton rover]

Aside from Chap8 do we have any other story maps with secret routes?

[craggy heron]

you mean secret ending ?

ch16 has it

[crisp bolt]

Ch14?

[craggy heron]

yea that too

[frigid kite]

[wanton rover]

I haven't reached 14 yet and on 16 the secret is more...passive I guess. On 8 we have to actively do something to get it

[elder flume]

16 is also active

[lethal ferry]

14's isn't as involved as 8, but you still need to do something extra for it

[river atlas]

i got all the ch16 secrets by accident tbh

[pearl compass]

They don't have any condition except clear the chapter.

[elder flume]

Break all rocks
Save a civ

[wanton rover]

Me too. There are hints like "behind a wall" or something but I suppose it's not as engaging as 8

I really enjoyed the extra missions from 8, hopefully 14 or future 17 got something like that

[river atlas]

Ch8 and 14 are end of arc chapters

[rustic eagle]

What rewards do you get from these kind of secrets?

[river atlas]

i wouldnt expect anything as involved til the last episode of the current arc

[elder flume]

Just lore and OP

Sometimes new operator

[rustic eagle]

I see

Ill keep in mind when I reach 8 👍 Ty

[frigid kite]

@rustic eagle do you need help with any stage brosky?

[heavy mason]

In saltfin graveyard, is krooster best suited for lower right quadrant where flying fish are?

[rustic eagle]

Not yet, I technically did with 16-15 but lego sent a video I can refer to ~~once my ops aren’t level 1 anymore ~~ so I’ll give it another attempt once I get sanity, ty tho !

[pure orchid]

BRO

[crisp bolt]

🥀

[velvet jolt]

Anybody know a good way to beat the Bear boss...?

[hidden axle]

H stage or 16-12?

For 16-12 any good physical defender (like cuora) can work, if e1 max they need 2 medics elsw 1 suffices for e2

[royal hamlet]

Within my messy clear for the H stage 1 Defender, 2 Medics will still do, do recommend bringing someone with stun to check the bear, it helps keep the Miners from getting mauled on the way to the other boss. (Brought CS cause of this)

[hidden axle]

Or yk let the bear do its thing and take care of enemies for you

[royal hamlet]

Oh, I thought this was H4, whoops.

[hidden axle]

Bear spawns im H2 asw

Dunno about H3 havent played yet

[royal hamlet]

Nope, Mechs, Stealthers, and reflect slimes.

[hidden axle]

I just played H2

[velvet jolt]

Oh nice, would Mudrock work too?

[elder flume]

Prob not unless mod3 and even then might fail hm

Ig i can try

[hidden axle]

What part of "with medics" was hard to understand ig could with 2-3 bards

[river atlas]

2-3 bards not enough

[hidden axle]

Someone already tried I see

[elder flume]

Lol each hit is 1.2k on mod3 S2M1 E2 60 Mud

[river atlas]

Unless this is post enrage

[elder flume]

Damn

Need Nasti

[hidden axle]

Try with bards

[river atlas]

What were you expecting to happen

[elder flume]

Infinite skill Mudrock surely

[river atlas]

every 1 def under a thousand results in the bear doing +4dps

[hidden axle]

[royal hamlet]

Sweet Vanguards the turbo Mudrock.

[lilac steppe]

Does eunectus has the highest def? Nvm. I need sleep

[elder flume]

No ?

[river atlas]

Eunecte’s defense isnt even considered super high, much less highest lmao, admittedly this is because she uses sanctuary instead though

Terribly designed archetype

[pure orchid]

can zuole solo bear

im tired bruh

[dusty gust]

is this even possible

[pure orchid]

i mean it is but

[dusty gust]

is my operators enough>

[pure orchid]

im trying to figure out how lol

[dusty gust]

?

[dusty gust]

this has been paused for like 10 mins straight

tryna figure out what the hell it is

[lethal ferry]

If you use yu s2 you can make the bear fight the boss

[pure orchid]

youre so right wtf

i forgot the bear attacks everything

[river atlas]

Or use an op with an aoe atk to aggro the bear from behind the boss

But thats a lot more annoying to position when u can just borrow yu

[dusty gust]

ah

bear vs boss

interesting mechanic

[lethal ferry]

Also, bring an operator with actually good defence as the bear will win the fight

[dusty gust]

im cooked

i only have Yu as my good defender

[river atlas]

Stall the bear after with decel binders, or hard CC

Since you have yu, u could borrow a tragodia maybe

[lethal ferry]

Do you have cuora?

1k is enough def with a good healer, but the higher the better

[hexed zodiac]

Yu S3 for increased defense stat

[lethal ferry]

But that’s temporary and doesn’t make the other boss trivial

[pure orchid]

unironically pepe might be funny here

[dusty gust]

yes

ill try all the tactics

ill grind this the entire night till i get it

[hexed zodiac]

Cuora is the same too she doesn’t have base 1k defense

[lethal ferry]

E2 lv 50 cuora with haruka is enough to tank the boss when the enrage runs out

[lethal ferry]

Cuora is a 4* and so not too much of an investment to level compared to someone like hoshiguma1

Also can be bought alongside yu

[hexed zodiac]

Sorry at work can’t talk but yes

[lethal ferry]

Also technically a e2 lv 70 mod3 cuora with at least 90 trust has 1k defence, but that’s beside the point

[river atlas]

1k def still results in the bear doing 1200 dps to your tank on phase 1 btw

I forgot, H stages use lv1 bear not 0, it’s actually 2240 dps

[lethal ferry]

Hence the when the enrage runs out

[floral wigeon]

?

[lethal ferry]

The bear will spend a lot of phase one killing the boss and the rest can be pretty easily stalled by just throwing bodies at it, stall some more at the start of phase two and when the enrage runs out place your blocker and as much healing as possible with a somewhat tanky dps to distract the rocks

[lethal ferry]

What’s your issue?

[frigid kite]

Looks good but uhh, haven't you cleared it yet?

[floral wigeon]

pre planning mephisto bird

[lethal ferry]

That should be enough

[frigid kite]

I'd say Mlynar solos like most of it even

[floral wigeon]

everyone is e2l10sl7 except eyja

[river atlas]

update: skadi alter makes tanking the bear feasible

[frigid kite]

yea bro you got it

[heavy mason]

While I’m able to hold the line, the barrel men keep making my life miserable and the cannon people will kill sash. What can I do?

[elder flume]

grab a Gravel and put her in front of barrel

cannon uh its either kill or be killed

since you put him in range before he can sink

[heavy mason]

Oh kk. Can I also use gravel to kill bridge builders?

[elder flume]

prob not low atk + halved atk

[heavy mason]

Aight then

[river atlas]

What is blaze doing

[heavy mason]

caution, cause I’m worried I’ll get swamped later on

Cause of the boatswains

[lethal ferry]

Nah, just block them and they’ll all sink into the salt

Or kill them as they spawn

[heavy mason]

But how do I kill the bridge builders then

[lethal ferry]

Fast redeploy on them, or just invis reveal

[elder flume]

by making sure they never leave

[river atlas]

Cant you just spawncamp the top right spawn

[elder flume]

surely a better place for Blaze than shaving Matsukiri ass

[river atlas]

Plop blaze down on the top right along with a healer

Also hoshi doesnt need two healers

[heavy mason]

Thank you so much! I’ll try it again with ur suggestions

[river atlas]

Use s1 or s2 if she’s having issues surviving somehow

[lethal ferry]

Does hoshi even need a healer in this stage?

[river atlas]

Dont the chefs hit decently hard

[mild wind]

captains go from top to left, right?

so theres barely danger as they just shit themselves in the sand

[hidden axle]

I used s2 and nah she was fine on her own

[lethal ferry]

I slowed the chef’s and they died before they even reached my blocker

[river atlas]

Idr what spawns in the top middle box but u should have plenty of spare deployment slots to kill it

[hidden axle]

Aoe globak nukers iirc

[lethal ferry]

Top middle is cannons and captains

[river atlas]

Hoshi, kroos, healer, blaze is 4 out of 10 slots so u have 6 slots spare to ruin their day

[mild wind]

i have an incredibly sinister method of spawncamping topright

because mountain is lvl60 modless

[lethal ferry]

Skadi usage

[mild wind]

cannon aggro

how broken

[heavy mason]

Kroos goes where the fish spawns. Right?

[lethal ferry]

Yep

[river atlas]

Yep

[heavy mason]

Nice lmao what a level

[pure orchid]

shit that took me 2 hours lol

my team is REALLY different than my daily driver

[nocturne cove]

gz

[dusty gust]

im so close

i always lose to the bear after he defeats the boss

i cant even upgrade any other operators rn since my mats are kinda dry rn

[steel prairie]

HOLY

what stage is this ?

[dusty gust]

im lacking 1 more defender

[pure orchid]

H16-4

[steel prairie]

ah no wonder

[lethal ferry]

H16-4

[dusty gust]

i shouldve pulled for alter hoshiguma and haruka

[pure orchid]

jessicat shield is really handy

combine with pepe and it lasts a really long time

[dusty gust]

is she a good alternative for alter hoshiguma?

tempting me to buy her in golden cert shop

[lethal ferry]

Hoshi2 can’t tank the bear anyway so that’s not too big a deal, haruka however…

[pure orchid]

tbh i didnt even use hoshi2 for the 2nd phase

shes lowk a bum

[dusty gust]

my bum ass did 5 tries always lose to bear after killing boss

might just end it lowkey

[pure orchid]

oh haruka s3 is unironically good lol

i just didnt try

[lethal ferry]

The real anti bear strategy, mousse s1

Or more realistically shamare s2

[pure orchid]

its one of many

[lethal ferry]

The bear is really susceptible to atk debuffs

[stark schooner]

How to complete paddy field 9-7 annihilation? I have no idea how to counter blight and pumps does not seem to help, unless i'm doing something wrong

[lethal ferry]

Honestly, go play here a people sows, the mechanics are hard to understand without playing it

[stark schooner]

Thanks, i'll try

[pearl compass]

Or watch KyostinV guide.

[dusty gust]

lol i give up

my ahh cant do shit in it

its prob not my time yet to beat H16-4

[plucky mason]

Pumps pump one body of water into other body of water, dirty water bad, dirty water kills operators, need blue water for pump to clean dirty water

There's also those little grate thingies you can use to section off the water but the rats can destroy them

[dusty gust]

Send an Ursus bear straight to Patriot and lets see the real beast

[limpid ore]

you see...

[plucky mason]

A crappy diagram btw

[limpid ore]

the bear not only inflict +100% dmg taken on attack, but when attacking other enemies, it has 200% ATK

[plucky mason]

I wonder if you could pit the bear against the boss

Idk I haven't played the stage yet

[limpid ore]

if the pathing allow it, yu s2 could do it

[limpid ore]

this is not including ATK buff during rage

[lethal ferry]

You don’t even need yu, you can just bait the bear into the boss

[plucky mason]

With trag yeah?

[limpid ore]

oh yeah, the bear run into damage source

not even need trag

[plucky mason]

Oooh

[limpid ore]

[plucky mason]

Next duel channel gonna put bear vs Patriot trust

[limpid ore]

simply speaking, the bear has hunting mechanic

[subtle violet]

If you put ines sentry in a way to reveal yurodstvo and use yu skill 2 you can
Spoiler ||bear wins||

[plucky mason]

I wanna see a video of that of it exists

Cuz I don't have Yu

[limpid ore]

people already used gravel on 16-12 to make the bear ran back into red box

[subtle violet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6dWrKFn98

[plucky mason]

Thank you

I'll ask about H16-3 later

[plucky mason]

Here's my inquiry about that btw

[limpid ore]

or just use ines s3
aim at the bear
and land next to yurodstvo
revaling it
since it's sourced damage
the bear will case her

[fringe solstice]

h16-3 and -4 made my brain feel small

[plucky mason]

I mean I technically cleared it I just didn't 3* it

My clear was held together by hot glue and a dream

[plucky mason]

H16-2 was lowkey the easiest one

Like with H16-3 you gotta do so much in such little time at the start

[dark violet]

but, you can't, the boss is in fog path

[limpid ore]

just send them miners to clear the toxic fog

[dark violet]

they die to the boss

[fringe solstice]

if you place the roadblocks here, it should be much easier. If you can kill the commanders on the bottom right it makes dealing with the other enemies easier

[plucky mason]

I think I'd dare say that H-16 3 is worse than some Adele stages

[plucky mason]

I know, it's just the influx of enemies

And I have tried wisadel-ing it

[fringe solstice]

for me, half the battle was figuring out where to place the roadblocks

[exotic grove]

no fr
the final rush of enemies in H16-3 is absurd

[fringe solstice]

I watched a 2ops of this stage and they placed some blocks in the middle to create a chokepoint near the top right

[plucky mason]

And my penance tank strat always falls apart because I don't know where to place her where both of the dumbass cannon cart thingies target her

[fringe solstice]

just borrow hoshi2 if you are stuck

[plucky mason]

Fair enough I'll probably try that later but I kinda need eyja alter

[exotic grove]

been trying to make haruka s3 work ngl pretty funny

her downtime is so bad tho

[plucky mason]

There's probably some crazy clear on billibilli where some dude is just using the bare minimum

[exotic grove]

.

[plucky mason]

Oh right

[fringe solstice]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1UHyQBNEwW if you're curious

[plucky mason]

Ty

Thar choke point might be what I needed all along

You are the goat

[left night]

Logos just melt everything wtf

(Had to borrowed him, this stage is legit hell)

[hexed zodiac]

Best caster in the game is good yeah

[dark violet]

Gravel is too op

Just needed to tank and stunlock the bear, then the boss derps

Flametail s2 for 10s of bear tanking is great too, it allowed me to protect exulter in phase 2

[stark schooner]

Thanks

[crisp bolt]

Believe in the modx flametail

:clueless:

[dark violet]

I believed

[river atlas]

Could someone take a screenshot of the setup from this video for me? Im curious but the mobile site for bilibili is very cancerous

[hexed zodiac]

First deploy

Redeploy plus blocked path

2-4th redeploy

Place block path towards end 56/64 enemies

[river atlas]

oh, that's a lot fancier than i was expecting ok

thx

[hexed zodiac]

You eventually retreat hoshi2 to then place her at the bottom left for the last slow moving enemy

Didn’t get screen shot tho 🥀

[thick sphinx]

[worn root]

this took forever

[exotic grove]

why does it keep saying this when they have a valid path

[latent halo]

ling in 2026

wow

[worn root]

girl still op

[exotic grove]

like??

[fringe solstice]

idk tbh

maybe the cannon projectile is blocking it

[exotic grove]

why can they do it in the vid

[fringe solstice]

I just tried it and I cannot place it either

My initial thoughts are the miners path is stopping it

[fringe solstice]

I'm stumped I can't place it there at all

[scarlet fulcrum]

inb4 coded as fence by yostar

I probably will try that duo clear later, want to to test the pathing too

My og clear just unga bunga without even using roadblocks

[fringe solstice]

same only used a few

[fringe solstice]

.

[scarlet fulcrum]

[plucky flint]

holy shit there's a roadblock???

no wonder it feels so cancerous

[river atlas]

do you like not look at your deployment area

[waxen dome]

Man, this stage is sooooo miserable.

I was barely able to beat it with this team

[plucky flint]

tbh I really didn't see the roadblock

took me idk tries just to get a good start smh

cancer stage

[scarlet fulcrum]

I see the roadblocks, but decided not to use it

[waxen dome]

I FORCED Gladiia and Ulpipi on the bottom lane, and barely managed to hold on to the top lane with hoshi alt, Wisadel, Exu alt.

[fringe solstice]

did you do 16-15 without medics?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ulpian trivialize it so ye

With gladiia i meant

My og clear just normal with incantation medics and normal ops

[waxen dome]

Wait, you were supposed to use medics?

I never use medics in any stage

[scarlet fulcrum]

Medics heal the miners

[waxen dome]

I almost forgot medics exists

[vocal leaf]

is it possible to get the bear kill the boss?

[fringe solstice]

ye with yu

[waxen dome]

OHHHH, It makes a lot more sense.
But how do medics stay alive?
The artillery just kill my medics.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Aggro

[vocal leaf]

what else is it need it? she kills the first civilian

[plucky flint]

you use 🎣

[waxen dome]

Man, I ain't got enough dp for that.

But eh, I could've asked for help here and I would've gotten this answer.

Oh well, I still won, and that's what matters in the end.

[exotic grove]

?

[waxen dome]

I would've tried aggro if I thought of aggro

[exotic grove]

just deploy medics before ur baits that they heal

[scarlet fulcrum]

U almost clear chapter anyway, if it works it works

[fringe solstice]

I think you need invis reveal

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is also totter+ethan one, but like reveal that can hit bear and any ops to bait pathing will work

[true stag]

gawd why does H16-4 has 3 lanes

anyone has any good idea how to not use full 12 man squad here?

[little ravine]

Wisdael,sakiko,monster S2,exu and hoshiguma

[river atlas]

i may have misread the question

[scarlet fulcrum]

U dont really need full squads to begin with

[vocal leaf]

very close to make it work

[river atlas]

no ines?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Maale

[river atlas]

ah

[vocal leaf]

it’s male only clear

[river atlas]

err couldn't you have put silverash on the top right facing left for vision so it has to walk thru the boss to reach him

oh wait the haze

[vocal leaf]

bear is not split box, is it? i could deploy miksa facing up and keep it there for extra reveal

[river atlas]

...is it possible to get access to those tiles at any point in the clear?

is that 11 ops in your squad

[vocal leaf]

yeah i can actually add more ops i just dont want to

[river atlas]

ah

[vocal leaf]

but maybe ely s2 can replace puzzle

[true stag]

wait so bear only attack yorodstvo when on phase 1?

[plucky flint]

bear be like : nah bro this isn't my waypoint

[royal rose]

Just look at this

What am i supposed to do?

Bring Wis 'adel and like three meidcs+

• Logos

Like just all the broken units in one team+

Because Haruka and Mont3r clearly aren't cutting it

[plucky flint]

what is that stage again?

[river atlas]

Its 16-16

Who even are you using to hold the bottom

[noble pewter]

bait dominion atk away from ur mid n kill boss

[noble pewter]

instead kidnap bear to yurod, shud kidnap yurod to bear cause yurod walk slower n she will try walk back left to go back top blue box while bear go right so bear get more hits in n kills her

[noble pewter]

can also bring aak n stun bear so no worry bear move away too fast

[vocal leaf]

bear doesn’t change target if i deploy something in front of him while attacking miksa?

here it works, but i will try to tp yurod now

i wish i could just play the second part of the stage, im tired of playing first part just to test the second

[lethal ferry]

The real issue with the stage

Especially when you play 5* and the first phase takes 8 minutes

[vivid rain]

Fuck h16-4 bear scared me so bad

[sterile delta]

hahahahahahah finally

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hoe casual nice

I started simulation from last stage too lol

[sterile delta]

moving lumen up and knowing that the 2nd phase no longer has the instakill every 4th attack really helped

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea 2nd phase just u worry about other stuff

[novel vine]

how the heck do you do h16-2

i barely live the bear but get owned by the four guys afterward

[noble pewter]

Just use trag cat stall bear one gravel n trag s2 = infinite stall for phase 1

Use trag cat lure bear to top lane n he help u kill enemy too, so u can save strength for phase 2

When bear about to go into phase 2 undeploy trag earlier, then redeploy at safe location top left, this removes aggro accumulated so bear don't throw rock at trag now with trag s2 u can deal with phase 2 easier again n easily handle mechs

U can also cancel rock throw with simple stun op like project red etc

[left night]

16-16 is when things start to get really hard even if you borrow op operator

Idk I feel like I'm spending too much time just to clear the chapter 16

[novel vine]

ic

[gloomy dirge]

I need help clearing H16-2, i can't even survive the phase 1 bear. I don't have any idea how many healers i need just to survive 🥲

[noble pewter]

r u open to borrow a tragodia?

[gloomy dirge]

Yes

[noble pewter]

do u have a gravel ?

[gloomy dirge]

Yes i have

[noble pewter]

and a project red?

[gloomy dirge]

Unfortunately no🥲

[noble pewter]

no biggie, is not important

[gloomy dirge]

Any idea how to clear this stage with tragodia?

[errant herald]

Hmmm

[rustic eagle]

How did you unlock the thing below 16-13?

[errant herald]

Finiahs the whole chapter 16, then get the rewards from this

You need these items to luck the other stuff

There's 4 of those

[exotic grove]

more healing isn't the solution
bait the bear around let it waste its time and lose enraged bar
I cleared the stage using only haruka s3 as my healing for jess

[errant herald]

The flag, the lantern, the circle thing and the orignium prime that is emo version

[exotic grove]

same strat as 16-12, just with mobs to clean up too
you can get bear to kill the mobs for u tho

[rustic eagle]

The h stages too?

Bro I can’t pull that off

[errant herald]

The h stages not really no

I haven't even beaten the h stages

[rustic eagle]

I see

[noble pewter]

maybe if u stop using lv1 unit u can actually do it very ez

[errant herald]

What I mean is finish the whole chapter 16 like up to the ending they'll be unlocked, but u can't get the ops yet unless you have the items from this to unlock those mini story

[rustic eagle]

mayhaps

[rustic eagle]

I think even with them at elite 1 I doubt I can beat a single elite stage tho

[rustic eagle]

Wait, those extra "tracks", they give out ops?

[errant herald]

Yes

?

Like 1 op er secret level

[scarlet fulcrum]

Should be po

[rustic eagle]

I see I didn’t know

[pearl compass]

Hoshi E2-90 S3M3 ModX3
Shining E2-60 S2M3 ModX3
Haruka E2-60 S2M3

Barely enough to survive the 1950 ATK Bear, thankfully he gets distracted by other bears and civs.

[exotic grove]

zamn blud tanking enraged bear nice

[pearl compass]

[rustic eagle]

Goddamn what awaits me after 16-15 is another bear level

Well probably doable af just not gonna be fun at all

Wait no it isn’t one nvm?

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/M52mKW50g_Q?si=-HNEJ8K5Ai2rZnBL so u do something like this just stall bear save ur strength then stall orange bar again n just tank n spank then kill other enemies later retreat op b4 they die to save dp but even if u don't probably still can stall

[pearl compass]

Bear will return only on H stages.

[rustic eagle]

I read from wiki that the boss spreads toxic cloud around him, does that mean I NEED the miners on him at all times?

[pearl compass]

On Phase 2, the toxic will be on whole field, making all enemies invisible and tiles undeployable.

So you use civs to reveal those tiles and start developing defenses.

[rustic eagle]

Wait, on phase 2, do I lose already deployed operators?

[pearl compass]

Phase 1 instead she will just oneshot your ops.

[rustic eagle]

Bro I’m reading the wiki

Idt I can beat this

[pearl compass]

The map will change, so all enemies on previous map will die immediately, your units will be removed and returned back to your hand with -80% RedeployTime.

So you have to deploy everyone once again by different approach.

[exotic grove]

it's better to have ops be deployed and sent back than to retreat manually because of that -80% btw

[rustic eagle]

That yes but still

[past nacelle]

i wonder if infinite kettle strat in is6 is always doable

[exotic grove]

eh wasn't too bad
the hard part is not malding after goofing on second phase and having to redo phase 1 again

[rustic eagle]

I don’t know if I have the tools to make everything else not hard

[elder flume]

with mostly E0 ops prob not

[rustic eagle]

Mostly E1🥹 ?

Bro the only 1 op strat on arkrec, which isn’t even adverse environment is wang

Whatever I’ll do 16-15 tmrw and then we’ll see

[loud bluff]

Guys I need halp 😭

[elder flume]

dont take def medic ban ?

this is borrow Ines
https://youtu.be/j5A7q6M8prk?si=EcCJ0W6wXdT8-2AK

[proper ore]

https://youtu.be/4qQ8qMX9E6Y?si=tc96P5NExaeCovPh
I don't know if that funny guy from dungeon meshi is essential to be the bait and tank at the same time or side dps, but here you go; I think the other ops here are pretty much easily obtainable and if you've already mastered the art of pausing menu or have a pc

More of a hard stretch skill play but ye

[elder flume]

havent checked E1 Cuora stats but shouldnt be different since bear rage always hit during skill only

[proper ore]

Laios, dang forgot his name

[lime lantern]

no spec ban exu2 nothing

[proper ore]

Sure, you can go have her yeah, but the guy did it without 6 star operators and just rely on stun and silence (doubt it works on that rock, cancelling it entirely or probably only halts its activation time or something) but yeah, can do

If not apparent enough, stun condition makes him forget what he was doing in the first phase and seems to carry through on the 2nd phase, dunno fully well since I have not tested one myself

[elder flume]

stun is an attack cancel so yes

if you mean it halting another 20s per rock throw then ig yes also

[gloomy dirge]

Thanks!

[glad brook]

16-12 simulation

[teal olive]

chat u can cheese 16-17, i put down my phone while i was loading and i came back to a win screen, i think the timer starts going down before the level even starts

[wicked minnow]

yeee

this is known

kinda crazy icl

[teal olive]

free simu 2 lmao

[hidden axle]

Except you dont fulfill ending condition that way

[safe needle]

How to unlock h16 stages?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Clear 16-19 and Earn 24 simulation points

[daring escarp]

Lol

[daring escarp]

Yea, secret ending needs a miner touch the red box

[daring escarp]

Why 24 if it requires much less

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is it? 24 is minimum idk

[teal olive]

i think the ending needs u to destroy all the rocks no ?

[daring escarp]

24 is max rewards, all h stages is like 14-16

[scarlet fulcrum]

Which one 14 or 16

[daring escarp]

No, i did that before it didn't give me anything

[daring escarp]

I cant check rn

[scarlet fulcrum]

I can

Its 14

[weak gazelle]

oh the requirement is that low
good to know

very lazy to play simulation rn

[scarlet fulcrum]

For 16-17 yea it is

[safe needle]

How do you know you got the secret ending?

[scarlet fulcrum]

U get special token drop on clear screen, the nodes not revealed until u clear 16-19

U can just check ur depot to check

[safe needle]

You mean the dull originium?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea thats for 16-13

Also for 16-18 and 16-19 the tokens comes from mission to do list reward

[glad brook]

Which operators do you use with Aak to speed him up?

[sly drift]

Speed Aak up?

Like the cooldown?

[glad brook]

attack speed

[weak gazelle]

uh maybe standard sp battery ops?

[scarlet fulcrum]

S1

[glad brook]

Why not S3?

[elder flume]

usually Mon3tr Aak Ange Saileach are the common buffers

[scarlet fulcrum]

u want aspd, but like nobody have s1m3 lmao

[sly drift]

What do you use it for exactly

[glad brook]

Saileach is 6* flagvang?

[sly drift]

@scarlet fulcrum what?

[scarlet fulcrum]

what

[elder flume]

S1 is double the aspd from S3

[glad brook]

I see

[elder flume]

tho the context is quite weird

multiple ways to iterate this sentence

context 1 is how to make Aak faster
context 2 is what to use with Aak

[sly drift]

What is the practical use of speeding up Aak atkspeed which you are aiming actually?

[glad brook]

Fastest aspd Aak = more chanсе to stun = perma stun

[elder flume]

i only have S1M1 and no mod

[weak gazelle]

ohh perma stun

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actually used on maleknights ccb3, but got optimized later iirc. So yea thats the only purpose (perma stun). Can also act as solo marksman, but its 2026

[elder flume]

i used to run S1 as solo sustain sniper for older maps

[glad brook]

2026 have better builds?

[elder flume]

tho trait change made the heal not needed anymore

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea 1 hp safe and sound

[weak gazelle]

i wonder how much aspd krooster need to reach that point? (perma stun)

[daring escarp]

You can say that for gummy too

[glad brook]

Aak does it with style

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp tragodia just straight lure and stall the enemies

[glad brook]

Ok, if u want. We make another stupid plan. Saga kills enemy - Manticore S2 with aspd kills enemy from Saga to SP = PERMA STUN

[sly drift]

Aak is pretty much the last thing you use if there's no other choice lol

For staller

[elder flume]

all this just for Nothing Exu2 to perma stun

[sly drift]

Yea.. literal perma stun with no % chance

[glad brook]

Exu2?

[elder flume]

Aak S1 is kina nice for slow and stun compression since most ops only do 1

tfw Mostima S2 share the same compression

[glad brook]

Aak is only reason why I completed 16-12 Simulation (and bunch of fast-redeploy operators)

[sly drift]

Mostima is much more useful because talents

[daring escarp]

https://youtu.be/vPbe2BaySs4?si=MHu1gTi-Dj9seHCL i optimised as much as i can on the 16-12

[glad brook]

Mostima have cooldown

[glad brook]

can u send it to my pm pls

i cant watch youtube without discord

[daring escarp]

Dm you mean?

[glad brook]

dm*

[sly drift]

Yea.. I mean it's for slow and stun compression with useful passive.
Different case.

[elder flume]

Damn Saileach mod is needed for permabind

bear has 1 frame of movement

[scarlet fulcrum]

ayer surely

[elder flume]

im testing him rn

[weak gazelle]

ayer usecase

[scarlet fulcrum]

But since 2 supporter already there, shu would be better

But yea 1 more supporter and shu to be deployed

[thick sphinx]

Yess i got it

[elder flume]

Stil a frame hm

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yo wtf, you pull it off gz. Sry muh internet just very snail. Its bounced back and fail when uploads

[thick sphinx]

Ahh nah it's alr lmao.

I played it a whole bunch of times yesterday and failed.

Today I woke up and said one last try and it worked

Now for the last H stage

[scarlet fulcrum]

💪

[scarlet fulcrum]

+Shu surely

[elder flume]

ye im waiting till i get Trag S1M3 to borrow another

my Podenco is still E2 1

and prob would have to raise Heidi or Pallas to one cycle 16-16

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh yea podenco mod

[thick sphinx]

I think I placed haruka in the worst possible position

I don't what I was trying to get

Haruka as to cover a few more operators might have worked from the first phase if I'm lucky

I don't need much more healers, so wis is kinda my win condition here

[hasty minnow]

Seen enough, let haruka solo the boss

[thick sphinx]

🤣

[pearl compass]

*tell me tell me 👏 👏 *

[vocal leaf]

who’s going to fight the bear tho? CE s2 stall?

[plucky flint]

I trust gavial to tank the bear

[thick sphinx]

I'm gonna make the bar kill the boss and then bear I'll just ce stall yea

I do not have enough slots left for the fast redeply shit

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

say me say me 👏👏

[plucky flint]

how can you even make bear kill boss, I'm not seeing yu in your squad

[river atlas]

Bait the bear to the boss

[vocal leaf]

surely the civilians won’t get killed while trying to cross the other lane

[thick sphinx]

Actually fuck me

[thick sphinx]

Idh YU

[thick sphinx]

They all died

What the fuck do I do here

Bear hates me till the end sm

I didn't use archetto, so ig i can switch her out for a frd

But all the other units i DID use

[river atlas]

borrow a yu?

[vocal leaf]

yeah i was being sarcastic, you first need a bait or cc the bear to let them reach the other side

[thick sphinx]

I'm BORROWing a wisadel

[thick sphinx]

The bear runs away

He just dipped into blue box

[vocal leaf]

when i said bait mean someone who can tank the attacks, like hoshi or miksa

[thick sphinx]

Well then I'm cooked, igh either

And I'm borrowing wisadel as well

Maybe i should use more frd or sm

[vocal leaf]

but surtr and saki should be able to speedrun the bear p2

[chilly pike]

how to beat 15-20? dissociative recombination chapter.

||Return to Beginnings|| help

[thick sphinx]

But all the ops Im using other than archetto worked during the first phase

[pearl compass]

Show your stuff.

[hidden axle]

Don't ignore boss mechanics

Read it

[chilly pike]

rate my team

[hidden axle]

Reading solves half the stage

[thick sphinx]

Thats what i was trying to do with all those ops i the recording

Man I was being rage baited by the H3 stage, now bear came back to make my life more difficult

[river atlas]

What even is your squad.. did u manage to dodge both exuslt and hoshi

[thick sphinx]

3rd time time bear is in a stage man

[thick sphinx]

Send it

[thick sphinx]

-# who did u direct this question too

[vocal leaf]

surtr saki should do better than leizi imo

[thick sphinx]

Oh
Should I wisadel too? She has stuns rt?

[vocal leaf]

idk about wis, not sure what are bear stats

[thick sphinx]

Second phase of bear, will he come at the same time as the boss?

[hidden axle]

Why borrow wis when yu s2 helps deal with both yurodstova and bear's enraged phase

[thick sphinx]

I need wisadel to do the bottom right in the first phase

2 maps in the same stage ahh boss

Idh a stacked roster

[vocal leaf]

i doubt you need her with all that dps ops

[thick sphinx]

Trust me i do

[pearl compass]

From my DMs.

And by some reason, it was initially rotated by 90 degrees, so I rotate it back.

[thick sphinx]

Try it out with my team

[vocal leaf]

i don’t trust kids spoiled by wisadel

[hidden axle]

Real

[thick sphinx]

Ohhh
-# ahh alr, thx for rotating it

[hidden axle]

Borrow trag instead

[thick sphinx]

.

[thick sphinx]

Try the stage out with my team, if u can do it then I'll borrow yu

[river atlas]

u would benefit more from borrowing a tragodia or hoshi imo

[thick sphinx]

Well, just a few days left, I'll have her and can borrow other operators too

[thick sphinx]

I need wis to do the phase on 😭

I tried with everything

[vocal leaf]

can gavial tank bear p2? especially the rock?

[thick sphinx]

Even shu and exu2

[river atlas]

Bro

You have exu2?

[thick sphinx]

That idk, never tried it before.

My bear stage clear is bait using fast redeploys and wis dps

[thick sphinx]

BORROW

Look at my krooster

It's in my bio

I'm 2 months old, no way I have exu 2

[thick sphinx]

I think I might be able to blitz it, before the phase one ends, maybe if I just retreat all my Operators just before the map changes, I can place down ALL of my operators again, and maybe I'll be able to p2 the bear and then blitz both bosses at the same time

[sly drift]

This squad have too much dps with almost zero utility and man still managed to borrow Wisadel?

[thick sphinx]

Too much damage and no utility yea.

-# try the boss with my team. You will understand the problem I'm facing

[river atlas]

Do not retreat your ops when the map changes

forcibly retreated ops have reduced redeployment time

[thick sphinx]

Oh

Damn.

[river atlas]

If you manually retreat them they’ll be full rd

[thick sphinx]

Hmm

Maybe I'll try placing my ops different then...

[hidden axle]

Shrimply borrow yu with s2

[sly drift]

Well. Your problem start with your squad making. Of course I will have the problem if trying using your squad.

[thick sphinx]

[thick sphinx]

I'm 2 months old account.
Look at my Krooster in my bio.

I have no other good 6 star worth building

[river atlas]

your insistence on borrowing wis is causing most of your problems

[thick sphinx]

Ive been trying this whole time with other borrows tho

They didn't work

[hidden axle]

Have you tried yu s2

[thick sphinx]

No...

[river atlas]

tragodia + any slow is enough CC to stall the phase 1 bear using just the miners

[thick sphinx]

Does yu solo bottom blue box?

[thick sphinx]

There is 2 maps man

I need to clear the first boss to clear the second boss

[pearl compass]

It's H16-4?

[thick sphinx]

Yea

[hidden axle]

Watch what they did with yu
https://youtu.be/8T6dWrKFn98?si=8HejHrI9CNBDho2r

[thick sphinx]

Okay

[austere skiff]

h16-4 just use yu to make bear and yuro fight

[pearl compass]

He will make one boss solo the other boss for you.

[thick sphinx]

Hmm

[austere skiff]

when the bear and yuro fight who usually wins bear or yuro

[pearl compass]

So you have to fight only one that way.

[thick sphinx]

But I need to reach the second map lmao

[thick sphinx]

Hmm

Okay I'll go try again

[thick sphinx]

Hey koo

[hidden axle]

No

[thick sphinx]

There's one small tinsy tiny problem here

I don't have the operators he has 😭

[hidden axle]

Watch what they did with yu

Omfl

[thick sphinx]

Okay.

[hidden axle]

Thats the second guy I shared this video with and told them to watch what they did with yu
And they said I dont have the ops they used

Smh

[thick sphinx]

It's true thi

Lemme go try it again

[foggy grove]

i don't have yu

what do

[sweet flower]

did u have trago

[foggy grove]

no

[hidden axle]

Shrimply borrow wang

[sweet flower]

I used this squad for H16-4 clear

[elder flume]

Non modded Myrtle

[sweet flower]

no one cares

[austere skiff]

Myrtle mod is abysmal dogshit

[plucky flint]

I'll be more surprised if I see a modded Myrtle

[sly drift]

I care

[foggy grove]

non modded sa

jk

[plucky flint]

no one cares

[austere skiff]

Non modded hoshi2 🤫

[sweet flower]

where is her mod

ima go up immediately

[plucky flint]

🔜

[royal rose]

I finally beat 16-16

That was hard

I broke out horse uncle for it

[plucky flint]

you'll have more fun at H16-4

[thick sphinx]

I give up

[thick sphinx]

😭😭

I keep dying in second map

If I reach second map

Cuz 1/4 times i dont

[plucky flint]

what's ur ops again?

[river atlas]

Linked in his profile

[thick sphinx]

[plucky flint]

damn, very efficient

[thick sphinx]

In my Krooster in bio

[thick sphinx]

Damn shit, I'm able to reach second phase, the immediately get high on the caffeine aura of the bear

And if that's not enough the boss of the stage is also one shotting everything

[river atlas]

Record a run maybe idk

[plucky flint]

I'm thinking u can borrow a trag and stall bear with CE and bunch of ops

lemuen can burst the other boss

[thick sphinx]

This what happened when i reached the boss, i managed to get the bear to phase two somehow in an other run.

[thick sphinx]

My ops arnt enough to reach the second map without a wisadel borrow.

That's the whole reason I'm not using any other borrow rn

[thick sphinx]

I only have dps, no Survival cuz thx.
-# not that I'm mad i have all these operators

[thick sphinx]

.

[plucky flint]

not borrowing ops
sees wis borrow

[river atlas]

I meant phase 1

[noble pewter]

u do not need wis, u borrow trag is easier

[narrow pendant]

When i read that i expected 4* squad
Not squad that has 70% meta ops

[noble pewter]

especially with ur team

u have 3 good grd laneholder

n haruka

[thick sphinx]

Never said I want borrowing for this stage

[noble pewter]

they can hold the 3 lane, 1 trag can support all

[thick sphinx]

Before u start shitting on me try the stage with my op and see what the problem is lmao

[noble pewter]

then phase 2 u can use cat tactics n paralyze

[plucky flint]

tbh you need another stall op for phase 2, you have the dmg already, but not stall for bear

[thick sphinx]

?

[narrow pendant]

I never said i was shitting
I just expected something else

[thick sphinx]

Archetto u can replace with smtg else, I don't use her anyways

[noble pewter]

the phase 1 is ez if u borrow trag, compared to borrow wis

[thick sphinx]

Idk where to place tragodia tho

[noble pewter]

gavial can hold top with haruka healing

[plucky flint]

so are u willing to borrow a trag?

[thick sphinx]

And the bombs and gundams shit

[noble pewter]

tragodia middle haruka heal

[thick sphinx]

Yea, but idk

[thick sphinx]

Infront of haruka?

[noble pewter]

gundam only bottom lane, sakiko job to handle them

with lemuen behind support

[plucky flint]

in phase 2, place him in logos tile

[thick sphinx]

Oh

[thick sphinx]

Oh

[noble pewter]

lure artillery fire to top left with last deploy unit

can even use silverash s2 n afk tank arti fire

[thick sphinx]

Yea mb

[noble pewter]

or just about anyone in range haruka survives

[plucky flint]

also bait and delay the other boss

[thick sphinx]

I need his s3 to get lmd the top lane

Do what mynar is supposed to be doing but I don't have mlynar

[noble pewter]

there is nothign dangerous top, they walk into gavial n die

[thick sphinx]

I just let him shoot a guy who's under haruka range

[plucky flint]

this stage kinda overwhelm most ppl cuz of 2 bosses and one of them is very intimidating

[thick sphinx]

Middle who do i keep?

[noble pewter]

only artillery drone maybe but u can cat it

[noble pewter]

just trag alone can solo

miners can help u lane hold

[thick sphinx]

I don't know how to use tragodia

[plucky flint]

deploy him, use cat if necessary

ez

[thick sphinx]

Is there a video of a clear using trag?

[thick sphinx]

Oh

[noble pewter]

many on bilibili perhaps

or yt i dunno

[river atlas]

Put cat behind enemy, done

[thick sphinx]

Every single cod on bilibili is wisadel trag exu hoshi2 and mylnar on same team.

I saw a stage where silver ash alter and pramix alter fucking solo the whole stage sm. No other operators, just sa2 and pram2

I'm contemplating whether to wait and do the H stages once I pull on sash banner sm

[noble pewter]

use cat bro, u have silverash it is fast cats

u must learn to use cat

[thick sphinx]

Yea

One H stage has more learning curve than ch 14 and 15 combined

Fucking hell

[plucky flint]

you have shittons of e2 ops that can deal dmg that can be substitute to exu2

sakiko alone can carry as your main dmg

[thick sphinx]

Hmm

[river atlas]

U do not lack dmg, you lack CC

[plucky flint]

you also have surtr for quick stall, trag and CE can rotate for stalling

[thick sphinx]

What's cc?

Crowd control

Okay mb

[river atlas]

Crowd control yes

[thick sphinx]

Nvm

[thick sphinx]

Surt redeply is the only reason the first stage possible for me

[river atlas]

Total dmg is dps * time

Making any enemy take twice as long to walk to your op effectively doubles the dmg you can deal in a situation where they oneshot your op

[thick sphinx]

If I had a tragodia this stage would have been so easy huh

Welp imma go try again

[plucky flint]

don't be a wis brainrot person

[thick sphinx]

If I'm not able to do it I'm gonna crash out and sleep for a while.

[thick sphinx]

Trag is not brainrot?

[elder flume]

inb4 running 4star squad

[maiden hound]

have you tried not caring about it

[thick sphinx]

Yea i watched this vid too

Fine I'll go try it with tragodia

[river atlas]

Archetto is also dead weight

Bring like gravel or something

Even at lv1, she can body block the boss backwards half a tile and then waste 1s doing the atk animation periodically

[thick sphinx]

Hmm alright

[plucky flint]

at least you think on how to use cat

[thick sphinx]

Can't wait till you say people to stop using wang brainrot

[river atlas]

That buys u like 2s compared to someone who isnt even being used

[thick sphinx]

Hmm

[plucky flint]

nah, Wang requires you to deploy balls to become broken

not as brainrot as wis

[thick sphinx]

I'm not gonna push this further

[plucky flint]

Rain probably cooking something, they might drop a vid a bit later

[river atlas]

In a 120s fight, 2s of stalling every 20s means she has single handedly stalled the boss 10% of the time for 12s

[thick sphinx]

Thaat if the boss is doing sm for 120 seconds

Upscale waay to much

[plucky flint]

bear literally moves like after more than 30 secs

that's 1/4 cut in the energy

[river atlas]

ines also buys you 5s every 35s

[elder flume]

i havent even played H16 1

[thick sphinx]

Hmm

[river atlas]

and also -30% move speed

[elder flume]

RM took 8 hours of my daily life

[plucky flint]

nice new job you have

[thick sphinx]

Theory can only take you so far 😭

[river atlas]

Speaking of, u probably shouldve started by deploying ines facing downwards

and then activating s2 when the bear starts walking to extend her range by 1 tile to put it in range, binding it, and immediately retreating ines

Could alternatively aggressively place ines forward with the first miner to lay the shadow sentry at the corner facing downwards , and then deploying her where originally did in the video so the bear has to walk thru 6 tiles of 30% slow

[thick sphinx]

Oh

I. Ould have developed more dps by then too

Ig I'll try it out after i regain some irl sanity

[noble pewter]

https://youtu.be/Bc8RPk0jHnc?si=9Wxlpy1j0gOJ1sPb here is done with ur ops n trag borrow just don't undeploy ur ops when phase 1 ending so u can have tragodia up again faster n easier phase 2, but if u misplay like me then u still have many ways to stall

[river atlas]

The timing u activate wisadel skill also matters btw

She didnt have enough eligible tiles available to deploy all 3 revenants because u activated it while no miner was available to reveal the tile in front of ines

If ines had been undeployed on cd from the prior bind in my previous suggestion, W’s 3rd revenant wouldve spawned on her tile and tanked the first atk, as another alternative

The logos tile is also very exposed, sakiko being able to hide in the back where W’s spawn revenant was probably would have done better

With that tile taken up, W’s revenant would also spawn up front, allowing it to tank more hits as well from both bosses

Sakiko can also preemptively use her skill early due to their slow projectile travel time so that the moment the bear becomes un-invisible from walking into ine’s shadow sentry, they’d all immediately home in on it

[plucky flint]

damn, can't find a CE to borrow

[foggy grove]

where your ce

[plucky flint]

I'm broke in supporter chips

[weak gazelle]

i have my CE built ready but not max pot

[scarlet fulcrum]

M9 but modless