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molten halo
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Is the bear as hard as people make it out to be? I heard it was difficult yet it never got past my first defender so now I'm not sure if it was overhyped or if it attacks a playstyle that I don't use

pearl compass
cinder pike
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bear just requires flexable placements

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not as easy to brute force

pearl compass
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You can block with any DEF-tanky Defender and he's a pussy now.

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Like he's doable with Cuora and Jaye alone.

molten halo
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Yeah I just tossed hoshiguma cause out there due to her dodge but then I'm see like 90 dmg show up on her and got confused

limpid ore
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the actual boss is on later stage

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and they bring back the ursus black fart of insta kill

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which is easily baited

hasty minnow
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is this adverse simulation cuz m struggling with that. the basic ass version is easy though

molten halo
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I'll save that nightmare for when I wake up. I have yet to sleep due to my investment in the story

daring vector
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Hello, who is the best defender to borrow for 16-12? 😬

limpid ore
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take a cold shower, it helps relaxing

limpid ore
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cuora sustained by jaye is one of the cheap option

elder flume
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16-12 isnt that bad for my mod Cuora
130 damage adverse0
530 damage adverse2 no atk
1830 damage adverse2 atk

pearl compass
elder flume
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Hoshi with Aak S2 + Shining talent keeps her alive through atk buff

pearl compass
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BISON

next wigeon
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Just use Exu2 + Mr Nothing to permastun the Cocaine Bear

limpid ore
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i think my nothing is still e0

next wigeon
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You can also add Nervous Impairment as a just in case

limpid ore
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tho the phase 2 triple-hit is ability not normal attack

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and ranged

elder flume
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i tried Lumen S2 to remove debuff and its not cleansing RedOmegaLul

limpid ore
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well, debuff isnt negative status

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also it applies on every attack

elder flume
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PRTS said its 20s cd on same op on first hit

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so i tried

limpid ore
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still therapist cant cleanse debuff

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otherwise acid slug wont make you hit 0 def

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oh hey, that's good mob to pair with the bear

pearl compass
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Don't give HG ideas

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They definitely do this.

next wigeon
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Tbh I can see it a CC ngl

daring vector
limpid ore
hasty minnow
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somehow beat it with ray and suzu stall

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no defenders

limpid ore
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tbh, mr. nothing and exu2 cheese it

hasty minnow
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wish i had at least one of those

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actual fraud of a boss

elder flume
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Trag Mon3 Ange Saileach was another

limpid ore
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cuora and jaye

elder flume
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not sure if subbing Mon3 into Ayer Podenco Thorns2 is easier

crisp bolt
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-# it's actually ass to get s2 up

limpid ore
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this shit aint freeze immune, then aurora

crisp bolt
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Bully the bear with cc

odd forge
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Nobody likes quibai?y_disappointed

crisp bolt
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I used dororat s2 for sim

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Stalled out the enrage phase

odd forge
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Nice

cinder pike
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finally done with 16-16

plucky flint
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gonna use my remaining irl sanity to finish the chapter now AngeHyper

glass monolith
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<@&586570970345635868>

median shard
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16-16 is really sweatty PerliDerp

astral cosmos
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yep

median shard
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invisible, smoke regen, hit hard, auto defeat. dev please i'm just casual wisadel clear player PerliDerp

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i'm not even done the strategic simulation PerliDerp

plucky flint
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ohh, is this the comeback of EB

glass monolith
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Throw crownslayer at it and kill artillery with Vendela Tequila Reflect HellaKek

median shard
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does crownslayer can be deployed in the smoke or you need to clear the smoke first?

limpid ore
glass monolith
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Totter, Ines, Iana, Silverash, that one defender subclass I won't remember module can say no to invis

plucky flint
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sentinels SkadiDaijoubu

limpid ore
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sentry protector

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they changed name like... 5 times

plucky flint
glass monolith
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Archetype being renamed just to explain why they didn't get module this time

median shard
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i used ines for the 16-16 the S3 can't reach the mortar PerliDerp

limpid ore
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Tsukinogi and Scene

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Horn if she can find a target

plucky flint
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oh well, I'm being spoiled too much here, need to finish it now

median shard
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it's just too hard (for me) that's why i just hope someone find a solution for it here warf

silver tartan
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hey guys i wanna ask is there any operator i can use to tank and kill the big bear in 6-12?

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wait lemme sent my krooster i forgot

limpid ore
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just cuora jaye it

median shard
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my strat on that level is to bombard from 3 spot, so the AI got confused on who to attack first

silver tartan
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jaye not even leveled

median shard
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it's 1 shot, waste of DP

limpid ore
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smh

cinder pike
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surely can tank with rayman s1

median shard
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use raidian, and spam her shield summon, should stall around 3 hit

sinful tangle
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hoshiguma can tank it

silver tartan
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i can't just saki it man:(

median shard
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just surtr it PerliWheeze

cinder pike
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I managed to logos it

silver tartan
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i meannn i have both surtr and logos lel

sinful tangle
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how does one beat it with logos

south bone
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oh hmm 16-15 is annoying

silver tartan
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maybe ima just borrow a haruka lel

median shard
median shard
sinful tangle
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works most of the time

median shard
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it hits hard and fast during enraged, you must stall the timer first before fully stall it with tank

silver tartan
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wait about normal hoshi which skill should i use tho?

sinful tangle
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with modx i believe

worn root
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16-12 lvl 2 supporter only

sinful tangle
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she has enough defense where you can deploy your healer before she dies

worn root
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The bear is so easy once you know how to cheese it

silver tartan
south bone
scarlet fulcrum
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Always easy if u cheese it, even easier if u read his skill

glass monolith
silver tartan
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welp i got the strats now lmao

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just surtr it fr

worn root
glass monolith
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Imagine third pvp gamble event will have bear who just leaves after bar runs out

scarlet fulcrum
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They probably will fix the silencable part someday, like the rat from shu event, very long time b4 they fix it

south bone
worn root
# silver tartan how?

Civilight to keep the bear in place whilst I set up the other 3 then stall it, when it's almost worn out retreat gnosis, trag and civilight and have suzu slow down the bear so I have enough time to redeploy them to spawn camp the bear when it reaches phase 2

daring escarp
worn root
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On phase 2 keep the bear near the left side of the map with civilight bind and tragodia cat

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When it begins to throw a rock, freeze it with gnosis s2

daring escarp
plucky flint
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nah bro, the note have some personal matter to this boss that it follows him to the other map RedOmegaLul

daring escarp
worn root
glass monolith
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I dont even know what boss does

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Because CN Sakikoed normal version and H version had... Happy accident

sick knoll
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the boss is sneaky

plucky flint
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ngl, kinda disappointed on the boss

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only the map gimmick is interesting

cinder pike
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I liked the 2 new bosses

plucky flint
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ohh there's still stages after 16 ReedBean

sick knoll
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wha

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no?

worn root
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16-17 is a survival stage and 16-18 is a cutscene stage

median shard
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based on the challenge, it should be until 16-20

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after clearing 16-16 and looking at 16-17's map be like: aight enough AK for today LappSad

worn root
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just wisadel it LMAO

median shard
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yeah, might just do it on the rest of the 16s

plucky flint
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this isn't funny

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my fps is dying

hidden axle
elder flume
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let the dialogue play for 7 mins and the stage clears itself

median shard
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is it like an alternate clear?

elder flume
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no they just forgot to stop the timer before dialogue ends

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so the cheapest adverse2 clear is 1 op any

median shard
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a bug then PerliStare

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i mean hidden easter egg

elder flume
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idk if its patched already

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u can try

median shard
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until now, i didn't see any patch yet

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oh even with normal run, it's more like a stalling mode

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got 1 enemy left when the timer ran out, still got the win

sleek flame
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Need help on CB-EX7, I can’t even set up a lane hold

hidden axle
wary onyx
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dont think its that hard

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its for simulation score

elder flume
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damn atk buff

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and no defender

median shard
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i'm currently on 5 minute mark for the strategic simulation

wary onyx
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and suzu

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to stall

median shard
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should update it in around 2 minutes

hidden axle
wary onyx
median shard
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wait wrong map PerliDerp

mighty pagoda
hidden axle
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Its also silenceable

wary onyx
median shard
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just bait it, the rock focus based on the latest deployed

mighty pagoda
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it is not

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its based on damage dealt to the bear

wary onyx
median shard
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wait, it's like that on mine PerliDerp

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lol then why it's attacking my tragodia, while my wisadel eat 2/3 of it's health

mighty pagoda
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because she is invisible?

hidden axle
elder flume
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camo moment

median shard
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probably PerliWorried

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But strategic simulation on 16-17 is really possible with 7 minutes wait and no ops deployed lol

plucky flint
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no point going more strategic past rewards right?

mighty pagoda
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nope

hidden axle
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I hope they dont fix that bug in 4 hrs LappDumb

median shard
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yeah just 12 stages are enough

median shard
# wary onyx how?

just wait for 7 minutes on the dialog between 2 miners, dont do anything

sick knoll
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what lmao?

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that's so silly

wary onyx
mighty pagoda
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not like its hard

hidden axle
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Tis the era of smartwork

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Besides its just like anni

median shard
median shard
wary onyx
simple gorge
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I need help for 16-7 adverse, mostly on deployment location and order

mighty pagoda
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place ascalon on bottom, ez

simple gorge
mighty pagoda
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2

hidden axle
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ReedBean that roster is 10 times more meta than mine

simple gorge
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Damn i didn't mastery that skill yet

mighty pagoda
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can use virtuosa or logos on top left

cinder pike
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4 ops afk. Sakiko, Mon3tr, horn

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and other girl

mighty pagoda
hidden axle
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Genuine advice, try doing some hard stages on your own without resorting to guides, struggling on 16-7 with that roster is akin to having skill issue

mighty pagoda
mighty pagoda
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thats what i said

sick knoll
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that roaster geeze

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yeah i

mighty pagoda
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wasting mats on suboptimal skills

sick knoll
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yeah

mighty pagoda
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and not having asca s2

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smh

sick knoll
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vector is rich

cinder pike
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it took me while but still doable

wary onyx
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finally

sick knoll
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he is not like the others

simple gorge
mighty pagoda
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you can try with level 7

sick knoll
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rector is richer than we can ever hope to be

mighty pagoda
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if you have module

median shard
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whale... 🐳

plucky flint
sick knoll
simple gorge
mighty pagoda
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good then try her

median shard
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if only i got suzu PerliDerp

cinder pike
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2man clear with trag and M3'

wary onyx
cinder pike
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and this is with extra conditions

simple gorge
cinder pike
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Just apply yourself

sick knoll
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millions must sob

wary onyx
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do i get anything past 24 simulation score

cinder pike
mighty pagoda
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you dont

daring escarp
sick knoll
wary onyx
mighty pagoda
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she still does fragile

cinder pike
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-50% attack

wary onyx
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so

daring escarp
wary onyx
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shamare had to do

mighty pagoda
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my prama max pot, 3% more fragile worth surely

young cairn
mighty pagoda
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borrow leizi

sick knoll
simple gorge
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Stage done, thanks!

sick knoll
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if you loose light and let your miner die on the right side it's like auto loose

broken idol
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Didnt 16-15 force you to keep them alive, because otherwise you lose light

mighty pagoda
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umiri+sakiko was enough on right for me

young cairn
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Got blasted by the boss

sick knoll
nocturne cove
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idk how you were losing

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but gz

sinful tangle
sick knoll
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the guy on the right must not die

nocturne cove
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even may works for those guys

young cairn
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Ok gotcha rush a healer

sick knoll
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a medic then followed by a defender /guard should do the job

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so then the boss doesn't blast the miners

young cairn
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At times like these i wish i have ines so i can print all the dp in the bank and immediately deploy

mighty pagoda
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borrow

young cairn
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The whole thing I'm trying to do is not borrow for adverse

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Idm borrowing for simulation but for adverse i wanna do it with my roster

hidden axle
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ReedBean when will I be free to do the stage smh, fuck assignments

young cairn
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It's good to be on national eid break RedOmegaLul

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I've been sitting on 16-16 for the past few hours

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1 week national break feels good man

scarlet fulcrum
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Internet still ass

nocturne cove
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it has been so long

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🥹

scarlet fulcrum
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Exactly RedOmegaLul

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Probably will back to normal in 2 weeks

hidden axle
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Overestimated assignment load smh now time to bully boss DocSmile

lofty gull
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How to beat 3nd phase of 16-16 with my roster?

thick sphinx
lofty gull
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Oh

hidden axle
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Brushing the e2 texas aside, wait for pros to spawn

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I could help but I just got free so havent done 16-16 yet

grim otter
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i need some help beating the bear i dont have any tanky operator raised except like mudrock and saria and those cant tank the bear is there any way i can beat it?

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i probably have plenty of damage

hidden axle
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Does sankta miksaparato struggle as well?

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Also no matter the tank you need to give them medics, 2 even if needed

raw mist
grim otter
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yeah the problem i have is i need someone to tank ultil i can deploy the medics and the tanks

hidden axle
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Have you read boss mechanics

grim otter
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the other tanks*

hidden axle
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You can distract him by using ranged ops

grim otter
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no i thought he was just like pissed cocaine bear that deals billion damage

hidden axle
thick sphinx
# grim otter i need some help beating the bear i dont have any tanky operator raised except l...

You can eat it easily

Yato, vanilla, beagle, and all the fast redeploy you have.
And exia alter

So what ur gonna want to do is to place down exia facing forward behind bars near the blue box, facing forward.

Then just spam place all ur fast redeploys one tile away from the bear, after the bear is agro, you retreat the fast redeply and go for another one.

Keep cycling like this inside exia alter range untill the boss yellow bar is gone, make sure to keep placing down fast redeply and retreating for dp and bait.
Hold him there and once he's injured let him do into the box, then just once he's in exia rage blitz him while holding him there with beagle and all other ops

grim otter
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and keeps on moving foward

grim otter
thick sphinx
grim otter
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cuz s3 could help with the fast redeploy thing

thick sphinx
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I personally used wisadel. But both work.

river atlas
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bring jaye s1, beanstalk s2, saria, ines s2, gravel, 2* yato uhh

thick sphinx
hidden axle
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BagNino using ranged ops to distract is easier but okay

river atlas
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do u have u-official

grim otter
grim otter
thick sphinx
river atlas
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u can start the run by putting it to sleep for a few seconds w u official to build some DP + charge your vg's skill

grim otter
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or i could run some rangeds and some fast redeploy

river atlas
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and then just keep baiting it around with fast redeploys and snipers/decel binders

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once the enrage timer is out, saria + any medic can tank it

grim otter
river atlas
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???

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do u not have orchid

grim otter
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oh i meant raised

river atlas
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it doesn't matter

hidden axle
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E0 sl1 orchid works

thick sphinx
river atlas
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their dmg and hp is irrelevant, the bear will one shot them

thick sphinx
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Yea ig it does 😆

river atlas
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all you're looking for is more bodies to throw at it and to make it walk slower

thick sphinx
river atlas
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it's a survival mission for the first 3 minutes

thick sphinx
hidden axle
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Feels like a real situation ngl, tire it out first then attack

river atlas
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u know how when u leak a boss by accident u panic and start dumping random ops on it til u can fix the situation?

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it's that, for 3 minutes

raw mist
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You got Ines, she can buy you some amount of time while providing DP ReedBean

grim otter
thick sphinx
grim otter
river atlas
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she buys more than 5s

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the 30% slow zone she leaves lying on the ground persists forever

thick sphinx
hidden axle
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Sounds like you arent using ines right PodencoSip

river atlas
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u just bait the boss back and forth across it for perma slow

thick sphinx
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Dp plus stall

grim otter
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her sentry also slows??????

thick sphinx
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Her bind lasts for 3 seconds i think

hidden axle
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LappDumb bro ignored his operator's kit asw

river atlas
thick sphinx
grim otter
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no ive read it all when i got her

river atlas
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5s of bind and permanent -30% speed zone

grim otter
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i just forgot it slows i guess

thick sphinx
thick sphinx
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And she can take two hits

raw mist
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If only bro read the bear mechanic he wouldn't be here

grim otter
raw mist
thick sphinx
thick sphinx
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2 hits is a kill

grim otter
raw mist
thick sphinx
grim otter
raw mist
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Ethan also helps a ton btw

thick sphinx
river atlas
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are you guys taking the atk up modifier

grim otter
river atlas
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how is cuora getting one shot

raw mist
thick sphinx
thick sphinx
river atlas
raw mist
grim otter
thick sphinx
river atlas
thick sphinx
river atlas
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can u borrow a tank for simulation

grim otter
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i thought e1 implied no mod

thick sphinx
thick sphinx
grim otter
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and cuora can tank cocaine bear at e2 mod3

hidden axle
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Ken are you sure you did it on adverse

thick sphinx
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I did everything on adverse Bnuuy

grim otter
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im open to being proven wrong i might be misremembering

hidden axle
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Nvm its possible for ines to survive

thick sphinx
raw mist
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Pray on Ethan dodge and let him tank

thick sphinx
grim otter
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oh, cool, anyways the strats are either fast redeploy spam for 3 minutes until the bear goes on withdrawal and then i just throw like exualter or sakiko at it and kill him or spam cheap ranged ops with slow until the same thing

hidden axle
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Mr. Ken why are you slacking off on strateguc simulations

thick sphinx
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Had to finish my prefarms yesterday for pram alter, sa2 and wisadel.

I'm done now, so I was planning on doin them today or tmr

thick sphinx
hidden axle
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BreezeHappy yk you should do them right after clearing adverse so that you dont forget the stage

thick sphinx
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Play the adverse stages unlock in a few more days lol

hidden axle
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What you did, enemy timings & pathings etc

thick sphinx
hidden axle
thick sphinx
grim otter
mighty pagoda
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borrow hoshi1 ez win

grim otter
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i cant leave is6 without friend wisadel

thick sphinx
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Plus, I'm 2 months old

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Age doesn't matter lol

mighty pagoda
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how is IS connected with this stage

thick sphinx
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So i just moved it down

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Didn't want to scroll up again

grim otter
thick sphinx
thick sphinx
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Now ur guilt tripping me 😭

grim otter
mighty pagoda
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you just borrow hoshi and you dont need skill

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place her down and win

thick sphinx
grim otter
thick sphinx
mighty pagoda
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nah, she doesnt

thick sphinx
mighty pagoda
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also 4 hits is not even bad

river atlas
mighty pagoda
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healable

grim otter
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4 hits is p good can hoshi2 also tank 4 hits?

mighty pagoda
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nope

grim otter
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damn

glass monolith
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WHY THE FUCK THERE IS SO MANY SHIELDGUARDS

mighty pagoda
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i mean she probably can but she cant be healed in red hp

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so its kinda pointless

grim otter
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yeah

mighty pagoda
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her def is pretty low she is arts defender after all

thick sphinx
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@grim otter can u use wisadel support?

thick sphinx
grim otter
thick sphinx
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Kay waittt

grim otter
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cuz like i have sakiko, logos, ray, exualter, mlynar and leizi

river atlas
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behold

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strategic simulation lv2 to clarify

mighty pagoda
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ye, if you use vanguard you can have even worse hoshi

woven creek
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uhh how many pics can ı put in here to ask for team recommendations?

river atlas
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please use krooster instead

mighty pagoda
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if you have that much chars you dont really need advice

grim otter
mighty pagoda
river atlas
woven creek
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oh ok wow that's a beautifu site that ı didn't know existed

grim otter
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imma try that later i have a friend who has every character in the game raised

mighty pagoda
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you can just borrow some random one

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pretty sure m3 s2 is not needed

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mine is not mastered at all

grim otter
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ya but its bro

glass monolith
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I CNATKILLFUCKIG SHIELDGUARDS SO FUCKING CIVIALSN GET STUCK FUCK

mighty pagoda
elder flume
river atlas
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Im a big fan of hoshi walling

mighty pagoda
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5k def RedOmegaLul

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she can even tank ulpi

river atlas
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i think 6k hoshi is possible if i was willing to m3 everyone

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but i'm too poor ReedBean

mighty pagoda
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what if you didnt m3 hoshi for those 3% def buff

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ez mats

river atlas
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i m3'd hoshi for the 20% thorns

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i have an alternative squad for atk buffing hoshi

mighty pagoda
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oh i see

river atlas
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..but then i remembered bubbles exists so i wonder why i even bothered when i can just swap bubbles into the def squad

mighty pagoda
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oh hers scale with def, i didnt know

thick sphinx
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@grim otter
Sorry for the buch of cuts and sped up, idh nitro and discord won't allow a file size bigger then 50mb

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I did a mistake here and activated wis skill to early, u should activate her skill the moment bear is dying and then cancel once he becomes invincible. Or else it will be close and u need to use skill twice like me

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The team is very low end so throw in any other ops u need

river atlas
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wisadel.. as a fast redeploy PtiloThonk

thick sphinx
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@grim otter actually look at this vidoe

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This one is just 3x, no cuts

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Should be easier to follow

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I can post 100mb so meh

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I wasted time editing 😭

thick sphinx
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Her revenant s help

grim otter
thick sphinx
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It's easier to understand

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No cuts

grim otter
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imma watch, my ines aint got mod tho is the mod important?

grim otter
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i do have texalter

thick sphinx
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Just bring in maybe vanilla extra and u will be fien

thick sphinx
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Watch the vid and see how I bait the beat

glass monolith
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DRONES SHE SUMMON IN PHASE 2 CAN LEAK??????

thick sphinx
glass monolith
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I'm not playing this boss fair, fuck it

grim otter
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lmao bro is spinning in circles imma try that too later rn im doing dalies on czn

faint scaffold
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need help on 6-16

thick sphinx
faint scaffold
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chapter6-16

thick sphinx
grim otter
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also charge your phone

thick sphinx
thick sphinx
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I will

thick sphinx
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Map?

thick sphinx
faint scaffold
woven creek
thick sphinx
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Lemme see

river atlas
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hoshi alter

thick sphinx
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Perfumer

river atlas
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wait

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proviso

thick sphinx
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U need heals or it will be kind tough

river atlas
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level proviso first before anything else

faint scaffold
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if i have enough time

thick sphinx
river atlas
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he has ptilopsis e2 tho

woven creek
river atlas
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yes

woven creek
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base?

river atlas
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yes

woven creek
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ok will get to that

river atlas
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proviso generates a terrifying amount of money

faint scaffold
river atlas
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oh there's two diff ppl asking for help oops

grim otter
river atlas
grim otter
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just dont think of her s3 as a defensive skill think of her s3 as an offensive skill

woven creek
river atlas
thick sphinx
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@faint scaffold
White is hoshiguma
Green is perfumer
Red is sakiko
Yellow is lumen
Purple is entelechia
Blue is random fodder

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Place the operators in the order I wrote the colour, and make sure to place a bunch more healers if u can.

faint scaffold
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why entel up?

mighty pagoda
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poor frostnova getting blasted by op ops

thick sphinx
# faint scaffold why entel up?

Her skill damage frost nova, more range forward rt?
And if sakiko does entel can lane hold with just her skill whole u place fodder

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Frost nova has 2 lives

river atlas
faint scaffold
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ok

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i dont have her s3

thick sphinx
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If sakiko cant kill the first time, just burst

thick sphinx
faint scaffold
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s2 is just a 3x3 around her and last place ground op

thick sphinx
faint scaffold
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left side right?

thick sphinx
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Blue is any other ops to reinforce

thick sphinx
river atlas
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oh right you're not using s3

thick sphinx
river atlas
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probably better to use entel as a laneholder then

faint scaffold
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she can hold bot late

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lane

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logos s3 right?

thick sphinx
#

@faint scaffold entel is not needed then, place her if sakiko does or sm, and without healers frost nova will kill all or ops, and where she kills u cat place anyone there again

faint scaffold
#

i can e2 entel if i get more ldm

thick sphinx
faint scaffold
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lmd*

thick sphinx
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Place him where ever facing the boss, maybe instead to lumen if u have ur perfumer leveled

thick sphinx
faint scaffold
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ill place in front of lumun then

thick sphinx
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Or else u can borrow haruka and place her in place of perfumer

glass monolith
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What the fuck is this phase 2. Boss instantly kills right side civilian twice and then all permamently camo assholes leak

faint scaffold
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i dont borrow on main story

thick sphinx
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If u still can't win watch a guide or sm

glass monolith
#

y

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Boss kills civians and invisible enemies, no i am talking fucking bear stage

mighty pagoda
#

have to bait boss attacks with your units

thick sphinx
#

Or a wisadel?

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What's ur team?

glass monolith
#

So on top of having to have units chase after invisible kaboom drones BECAUSE FUCKERS CAN AND WILL LEAK i need to sacrifice something boss great

thick sphinx
#

What is ur squad

mighty pagoda
#

not sacrifice, just place someone and heal them

glass monolith
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5x attack on same target, surely what can go wrong

mighty pagoda
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it will attack civilian too

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so its not 5 on one op

mighty pagoda
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you can also place 2 ops

faint scaffold
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ahh you said in order lol

thick sphinx
# thick sphinx .

In the order of how I wrote, if not you can switch to make it work if u don't have do

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Dp

faint scaffold
#

where do you think i should put logos?

thick sphinx
faint scaffold
#

huh

thick sphinx
#

The formation i just said should be enough

faint scaffold
#

okay

thick sphinx
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Place hik to help lane hold on sakiko side

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Or maybe use his S1 to spawn skill the ice spiders

sinful tangle
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just wisadel it

thick sphinx
sinful tangle
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oh alright

thick sphinx
thick sphinx
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-# random ahh flex to calm my brain down lol

sinful tangle
thick sphinx
sinful tangle
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but i wasted too many pulls on last banner

mighty pagoda
#

flexing poor pull usage RedOmegaLul

thick sphinx
sinful tangle
faint scaffold
thick sphinx
sinful tangle
faint scaffold
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ahh

sinful tangle
#

just wasted quite a few

mighty pagoda
thick sphinx
faint scaffold
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the free thing kills everyone

sinful tangle
thick sphinx
mighty pagoda
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i got wisadel in 1 pull

sinful tangle
faint scaffold
mighty pagoda
thick sphinx
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But now I'm wasting 10 x 30 pulls on wis tho

mighty pagoda
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and then i got logos and second wisadel in next 10 pulls

thick sphinx
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But hey, sash banner is honestly not the worst banner to use 300 pulls

mighty pagoda
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so you shouldnt flex RedOmegaLul

thick sphinx
#

It luck

sinful tangle
#

im aiming at 100 saved pulls and i might spend a little too if im feeling lucky

faint scaffold
#

should i stry sparking and if so which banner is good for that

thick sphinx
mighty pagoda
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i did have to use 300 puls on blaze tho

thick sphinx
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Not recommended

faint scaffold
#

okay

sinful tangle
#

my only lucky moment was on hoshi2 banner honestly

thick sphinx
sinful tangle
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first 10 pull haruka,next one hoshi2

thick sphinx
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Mine was also there

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90 pulls no hoshi

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But so many good 6 stars

sinful tangle
mighty pagoda
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why

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if you got both anyway

sinful tangle
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i mean i didnt know anything about anyone

thick sphinx
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I started to play ato ending

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Didn't even finish the event Stages 😭

sinful tangle
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i even pulled on a banner with eben cause he looked good idk

mighty pagoda
#

i mean he can be fun to use

sinful tangle
#

so many wasted pulls cause when you start you dont know whats what

mighty pagoda
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but as new player he is not for you

mighty pagoda
thick sphinx
sinful tangle
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now i understand better whats good and whats not so i have an easier time pulling for actually useful operators

thick sphinx
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It all comes with time ig

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I didn't even know what game mode to play when i started 💀

mighty pagoda
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play all of them

thick sphinx
sinful tangle
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just fixed my base kinda

thick sphinx
#

Welp ig we should stop, this topic is derailing and is better suited for #arknights or #off-topic

Best we stop so as to not get bonked by a moderator

sinful tangle
#

fair enough

thick sphinx
elder flume
glass monolith
elder flume
analog fern
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How the hell am I supposed to clear 16-12?

mighty pagoda
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you kill all enemies

analog fern
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Manglerbeast just 1 taps everything

mighty pagoda
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not everything

analog fern
#

Okay thanks, real helpful

mighty pagoda
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use tanks

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reading boss skills also helps

exotic grove
mighty pagoda
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or hoshi with any healer can duo it

exotic grove
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or cuora with haruka

mighty pagoda
#

add damage if you dont want it to take 10 years

exotic grove
#

I should e2 lappy LappPat

mighty pagoda
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not even e2 lappy smh

exotic grove
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but then I have to e2 texas too SkadiDaijoubu

mighty pagoda
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i did both

exotic grove
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lappy has been e1 for six years LappLicc

mighty pagoda
#

ye mine were too for long ass time

river atlas
mighty pagoda
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i guess

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use lumen, surely worth

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or use dps that can tank bear stone

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like quartz or something

exotic grove
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quartz gameplay usage SoraWow

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does rock hit skyranger when take off is up?

mighty pagoda
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probably not, not that sure tho

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should be easy to test with leizi s1

exotic grove
#

ugh my phone is in another room SkadiDaijoubu

river atlas
#

no

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or well, maybe if your lee is hyperinvested idk

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he'll block the stun sure but my lee still dies to the actual rock on simulation lv2

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but at that point u can just use anyone tanky enough to survive the rock and just take the stun

thick sphinx
river atlas
#

16-12 is the bear yes

thick sphinx
#

Does bro use support units?

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@analog fern
Ines can be replaced easily with other fast redeploy

exotic grove
#

you don't need support units

thick sphinx
thick sphinx
exotic grove
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not you specifically I mean in general

thick sphinx
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Ines doens't get one shot @hidden axle

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Even with extra atk buff

thick sphinx
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I don't level 4 stars

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Lmao

exotic grove
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L bozo

thick sphinx
thick sphinx
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And bait like how I did

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Watch the vid

thick sphinx
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Or else u waste do and won't be able to deploy all the other ops for bait

thick sphinx
#

Fill up the slots

lime lantern
thick sphinx
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@lime lantern

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I see Black

lime lantern
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you issue i think

thick sphinx
lime lantern
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mine works fine

thick sphinx
mighty pagoda
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mine works fine too

lime lantern
#

potential woman is potential womaning

thick sphinx
#

😭

lime lantern
wicked minnow
lime lantern
wicked minnow
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i dont remember ever calling mantra mid

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i always refer to her as "pretty decent"

lime lantern
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no im the one that said shes mid and then you said shes good

wicked minnow
#

oh

lime lantern
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idk i need someting beefier to test on

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theyre dying too fast

wicked minnow
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yeee

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also this is without the extra paralysis that mantra herself generates

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there's 4 more paralysis you can get from her

lime lantern
wicked minnow
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the part of s3 where when allies activate skills in range

lime lantern
#

ah

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yeah but i still need somewhere tankier to test this

wicked minnow
#

😭

lime lantern
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cause idk what sustained damage it can do

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if the enemies just die

wicked minnow
#

yeah idk if there's enemies tanky enough to live through allat tbh

lime lantern
#

i mean just this is like

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260k dmg no?

wicked minnow
#

in gen content at least

lime lantern
#

shieldguards 25k, patriot 60k

wicked minnow
#

well she does wonders when there's a group of enemies

lime lantern
#

ye i was thinking like

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what about like maybe just 2 enemies

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with alot more hp

wicked minnow
#

might be hard to find BagNino

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i really do wish they made trainning dummy so we can test stuff like this

lime lantern
#

ra would be pretty nice for this

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if i bothered to play RA

hidden axle
faint scaffold
hidden axle
sleek flame
hidden axle
#

Low rarity guides not helpjng? That event's so old its past its expiration date

sleek flame
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That’s why I did it

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I thought I’d be easy but this is the only stage I’m struggling with

hidden axle
#

ReedBean share krooster

dark lichen
#

anyone have line up for 16-16? cant beat stage 2

hidden axle
#

Holy old ops

mighty pagoda
#

ascalon mod y huh

river atlas
#

How serious a strategy is the sakiko 16-16 boss nuke

hidden axle
#

I did it and uh surely does not not work

mighty pagoda
#

maybe chen alter can kill the boss DrudgeThink

hidden axle
#

I used skadi s2 LappDumb tbh I jumped the boss withe everything

dark violet
#

once again dorothy memes on something

mighty pagoda
#

with some slow of ascalon she should do some damage

dark violet
#

the bear boss can't do anything to dorothy s2

hidden axle
hidden axle
dark violet
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I don't have him

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but gravel+NTR s2 is pretty solid too

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4 shields on deploy is funny

dark lichen
hidden axle
#

I borrowed trag cuz I wanted to do that HellaKek I definitely didnt forget that bricks exist so thought that was my best way out

hidden axle
dark lichen
#

maybe ill just copy low rarity squad kek

ember lodge
dark violet
#

really cool boss concept anyway

#

unusual

mighty pagoda
#

they really cant beat rat king in 2k26? RedOmegaLul

sleek flame
mighty pagoda
#

what is the problem?

sleek flame
ember lodge
# sleek flame Yeah

here's a pic of my clear, i used ops you may not have, but there's three deployment slots left

mighty pagoda
#

have vanguards?

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mountain op if you have dp pressure

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cant be replaced

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use vanguards

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use someone over 380 def against brawler guys

sleek flame
#

-# horrible grammar

mighty pagoda
#

i think i was still using indra when i did this stage ages ago

faint scaffold
#

is 6-16 worth grinding on?

mighty pagoda
#

nah, only farm events for mats

faint scaffold
#

this isnt event this is story

mighty pagoda
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i know thats why i said nah

faint scaffold
#

best way to solo then

ember lodge
sleek flame
#

Do I need someone with mountain then

mighty pagoda
#

just borrow some random one

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this is not some insane stage you need masteries for

ember lodge
#

yeah, just keep refreshing the guard picks until you get moutain to borrow

mighty pagoda
#

surely people still have him in supports

ember lodge
#

for sure, especially ppl who stopped playing ages ago lol

sleek flame
ember lodge
#

at the start of the stage just deploy cantabile at the top left to kill the first few enemies and get dp

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put out myrtle near mountain asap

mighty pagoda
#

5* cant even have level 90

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also what do you mean ruin

sleek flame
mighty pagoda
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i have some 5* max levelled

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and mine is not ruined

faint scaffold
#

done chapter 6

mighty pagoda
#

ye its pretty easy to get him, i refreshed 5 times and got him 2 times

faint scaffold
#

huh?

mighty pagoda
#

the mountain

void terrace
#

Damn OK honestly mantra s3 is

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Kinda OK when used with tragodia

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You don't really need a blocker since trag stalls the wave anyways

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And mantra removes stealth

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But the cycle time is weird and it's really strategic

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I might just raise mantra s1 and turn her into machine gun in IS

south bone
#

damn 16-15 makes me scratching my head

mighty pagoda
#

wait for 16

broken idol
#

17 being a patience check LappDumb

mighty pagoda
#

just alt tab

analog fern
#

Okay, 16-12 is still an enigma. Nothing I have is lasting anymore than a second against the bear

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My defenders are just as squishy as everything else.

haughty flower
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Borrowed Hoshiguma on s2

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Or e2 Cuora. Either works.

analog fern
#

Hate borrowing ops tbh

south bone
#

you still need healing asap for cuora e2 mod3 tbh

analog fern
#

I have my Cuora at E1 50, but she melts instantly

hasty minnow
#

not high enough

analog fern
#

I can’t even get a healer out fast enough

hexed zodiac
#

Sounds like you could make this a lot easier if you borrow ReedBean

broken idol
analog fern
#

… Wouldn’t he still attack Myrtle anyways?

broken idol
#

You get enough dp for medics/def

hasty minnow
#

no

hexed zodiac
#

Borrow exu2 and have her S3 redeploy flag RedOmegaLul

broken idol
#

Just deploy her on the bottom left

hexed zodiac
south bone
#

borrow crownslayer s3 BlitzSmile

scarlet fulcrum
#

Silvergun did it with beagle iirc, in lv2 simulator even more

analog fern
#

The more videos I see of people just cheesing the boss as the guide for this mission, the more I believe the bear just has bad design

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Having to play hot potato and retreat and redeploy and reretreat your operators to such an incessant degree could not have possibly been the intent

mighty pagoda
#

what do you mean, you supposed to cheese all bosses in the game

scarlet fulcrum
#

Why guide when u can cheese it

analog fern
#

NO???

mighty pagoda
#

if you dont have to do that if you have op chars

mighty pagoda
#

this is mechanic of the boss, it targets the character that attacked it

foggy grove
#

it's more like a proof of concept,just use better unit

mighty pagoda
#

other than that you can tank it with hoshi

scarlet fulcrum
#

No need copy pasta

analog fern
#

The mechanics suck because anyone it targets Dies.

mighty pagoda
#

not everyone

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you just dont know how def works

analog fern
#

Brother, my tanks die too

broken idol
#

(Or protectors)

hasty minnow
#

cuz ur tanks are ass

mighty pagoda
#

your tanks have low def

south bone
#

well your tanks are e1

mighty pagoda
#

def works like that, if def is higher than attack attack deals very low damage

eager turtle
#

what to do on second phase of 16-16, those miners are out of pace with the runners

scarlet fulcrum
#

Tanked enraged states no wonder

mighty pagoda
#

so you dont even need to test anything

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just compare boss attack with your def

analog fern
#

Then none of my operators have a high enough defence

hasty minnow
#

you dont NEED tanks. I managed to do simu wth suzuran and ray.

mighty pagoda
#

ascalon can also slow the boss for like a minute

analog fern
#

Who?

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Oh, a 6* operator I don’t have.

scarlet fulcrum
mighty pagoda
#

there are multiple ways to beat the boss, incliding using 3* only

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how it is bad design

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ulpi can tank it, hoarder can probably permastan it

analog fern
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Because the method with 3*’s requires such ridiculous pinpoint precision

mighty pagoda
#

there is permastun tech with mister nothing

hasty minnow
#

exu2 and mr nothing yeah that works too

foggy grove
#

then just raise your cuora,it's pretty brain dead

scarlet fulcrum
#

No its not, thats just stalling rage and baiting

mighty pagoda
#

hell even eunectes can probably beat it

analog fern
#

I can’t raise up my cuora, I don’t have the mats

eager turtle
analog fern
mighty pagoda
#

characters from the game obviously

analog fern
#

Stop being a smartass

foggy grove
#

do the mechanic or borrow
too much yapping

scarlet fulcrum
analog fern
#

You’re saying all these names and I straight up have no clue who they are because I don’t have them

mighty pagoda
#

borrow

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if you dont like 3* and dont have characters borrow mechanic exists specifically for that

eager turtle
#

why when i do this, the cannon shots mylnar don't matter the deploy order...

analog fern
#

I can only borrow one person at a time…

sly drift
#

What if my borrow button doesn't work

hasty minnow
#

or you know post your ops instead of whining about not heaving ops.

scarlet fulcrum
#

Cause his talent has taunt +1

hasty minnow
#

you only need to borrow one person

mighty pagoda
broken idol
#

If you still have trouble with this stage and don’t want to end in a burnout, you can play the standard version and pass it with 2 stars SkadiDaijoubu

foggy grove
#

you can literally afk this with hoshi borrow

analog fern
#

Hoshi borrow? Fine, let’s see this shit

#

Oh fantastic, the only hoshi borrow I have is still E1

Any other ideas?

mighty pagoda
#

do you have e2 in the squad?

analog fern
#

Yes

mighty pagoda
#

and you dont need her to be your friend one

analog fern
#

Lemme just send my fucking op list

mighty pagoda
#

masteries are irrelevant for this

#

mastery on s2 literally gives 9% def

analog fern
mighty pagoda
#

borrow hosi we said you

analog fern
#

E1 Hosi has enough def?

mighty pagoda
#

borrow e2 hoshi

analog fern
#

What E2 hoshi

mighty pagoda
#

any e2 hoshi, do you not read my text?

#

you can borrow from not friends

analog fern
#

Brother, I'm not seeing one

broken idol
#

Refresh list SkadiDaijoubu

mighty pagoda
#

refresh like few times