strategy

[exotic grove]

ok which of these 4* chucklenuts is better than her

[bitter halo]

my team for abnormal spectrum

[exotic grove]

can’t use purestream because she’s e2

[mighty pagoda]

she is fine just level her

[river atlas]

are you trying to do an e1 only clear or something

[mighty pagoda]

e2 myrtle

[exotic grove]

yeah obviously what’s the fun in this clear

[mighty pagoda]

thats a lot of vanguards

[bitter halo]

oh wait i need vanguard

[exotic grove]

I can’t unlevel myrtle

[river atlas]

simply take her out

[mighty pagoda]

bricked account

use this 5* flag from shu event

or you have him e2 too

[exotic grove]

myrtle is one of my fav ops I have her m6 mod3

no 5* allowed

except lappy
stupid dog
get a job smh smh

[mighty pagoda]

bricked account then

use 4* agent from this event

[exotic grove]

for extra stall?

[mighty pagoda]

and some dp

oh right doesnt she do slow too

[exotic grove]

dp isn't an issue

[river atlas]

i would like to point out jaye can silence too

[mighty pagoda]

on other skill

[bitter halo]

my only built male vanguard is chilchuck and vigil

[exotic grove]

sashter soon

[mighty pagoda]

i would build vigil if i had module mats

[river atlas]

i purposely choose not to build specifically vigil

[exotic grove]

how do u stop the rock from targeting lappy on phase 2?

[mighty pagoda]

by her attacking the boss

or you mean the first one

[exotic grove]

bear spawns on left side

[river atlas]

remind me why you're bringing lappy again

[tender orbit]

Isnt the throw phys

[exotic grove]

silence

[river atlas]

for what

[tender orbit]

Use s1 and pray for rng fr fr

[exotic grove]

idk other guy brought lappy

[river atlas]

idk why the other guy brought silence either

[mighty pagoda]

to silence the rock

[exotic grove]

oh u retreat her

[river atlas]

does no one see the issue here

[exotic grove]

until the rock throw phase is over?

[mighty pagoda]

if its over why use her

[river atlas]

[exotic grove]

why did other guy bring her then

[river atlas]

first of all, the rock throw isn't part of the enrage

second of all, if silence worked on the rock throw then she should never be getting targeted by said rock throw

[mighty pagoda]

you place her after the boss is in her range

[river atlas]

that u even needed to ask this should immediately clue u in something is wrong

[exotic grove]

ok einstein

[tender orbit]

Just dodge the rock throw with s1 smh

[river atlas]

3rd the boss doesnt have the silence icon next to the rock throw line

[mighty pagoda]

ye but sometimes there is no icon and it works

[exotic grove]

if you don't want to help you don't have to

[mighty pagoda]

the guy said me it works

[unkempt meteor]

Just hoshi it 😭

[river atlas]

that's why i listed it third and not first

[unkempt meteor]

Ain't that hard

[exotic grove]

hoshi is 6* can't use her

[sly drift]

Here we go..

It's actually quite simple once you deploy fkking wall

[river atlas]

they're trying to do a challenge run

[unkempt meteor]

Durnar

[exotic grove]

cuora works fine just trying to figure out why other guy brought lappy

[sly drift]

For the dps?

[exotic grove]

sure but plenty of 4* can dps
what is the silence effect doing for him is the question

[sly drift]

Actually anything will works after you deploy defender with 1k def and healers or sum shi. The solution is kinda cringe.
They legit should have make the bear deal art damage.

[mighty pagoda]

i said you the guy said it works on the rock

[sly drift]

The point is to control the bear until enrage state running out.

It should be literally unstoppable until then. But then you can just deploy Hoshi, Cuora, Nian and fking sleep? What?

[exotic grove]

rock throw phase 2 is the issue

cuora with skill up gets one tapped

[sly drift]

What's target priority again? I haven't read phase 2 in detail lol.

[exotic grove]

do you have to use one of the decel binders to deal more dmg to it than cuora?

[river atlas]

are you waiting for the enrage to finish before u try to actually tank

[tender orbit]

Most damage dealt for rock throw

[river atlas]

highest dmg dealer gets target by rock

[sly drift]

Spectre with with 2 heal and inactive skill can sustain.

Quartz can too prob

[river atlas]

the bigger issue is that the rock stuns for 10s

[mighty pagoda]

ye just use quartz, she can stun with s2 too

[full sluice]

are you guys doing all this on simulation bear2? or the normal ones

the normal one doesnt even do dmg

[exotic grove]

sim2

[sly drift]

But bear takes time to use the rock again. You have long time window

[mighty pagoda]

20s

[exotic grove]

maybe I drop lappy behind instead of bottom

mf walks too slow

[full sluice]

e2 cuora dies in 1 hit to sim2 bear idk how you're using e160

[sly drift]

I think the only issue with this stage is the first 20 seconds of the stage. The rush is insane I had to bring four vanguard, Monster hunter cat and Robin.

[exotic grove]

what rush

[river atlas]

you don't need any of those

[river atlas]

phase 1 is to just keep the bear distracted until the timer runs out

[full sluice]

whys everyone showing pictures with everything deployed after stalling that part is obviously not what ppl are struggling with

[sly drift]

You don't say "You don't need that"
That's works for me with my blind run

Holy shi

[mighty pagoda]

now use jaye instead of lappy

[daring escarp]

Okay

If the silence is on e0 im gonna do that

[mighty pagoda]

it is

[daring escarp]

[river atlas]

its on his s1 yes

[daring escarp]

It was sarcastic

[mighty pagoda]

is 1 sec enough tho

[daring escarp]

Bruh

[river atlas]

but why silence

[daring escarp]

To disable rocks

[exotic grove]

ok decel binder dmg strat trusting

[mighty pagoda]

oh his attack interval 1 sec too

[daring escarp]

I hope it does work

[exotic grove]

this is pretty tight

[daring escarp]

Im gonna send the vid after some hours

I have to upload it

[exotic grove]

I'll figure it out before then dw

no rush

nvm cuora gets onetapped by bear hand smash with skill up
does that attack get disabled by silence?

[daring escarp]

Nqh

You're enraged bear

[tall sierra]

Ok.. Done with adverse lv2, picked the more robot enemy and sniper dp tripled

[daring escarp]

I stalled it until cuora

[exotic grove]

oh so he still had bar left... playing on phone is hard

[tall sierra]

Cuora get shredded if u picked the atk up in simulation :3

[exotic grove]

I picked HP increase on phase 2
she should be ok

[daring escarp]

I have to go 11 ops now since i can't rotate back to beanstalk fast enough

Where lapp's range helped a lot

So i gotta sacrifice jaye a lot more

[river atlas]

radio how did u even get your lapp targeted by rock throw

i'm so confused how u even managed that

[exotic grove]

put her down while in phase 1

[river atlas]

ah

[tall sierra]

To think tragodia can stop boss from covering the area with black smoke

[scarlet fulcrum]

I thought dude is not the boss tbh

[exotic grove]

hm I think lappy 1s silence isn’t enough
needs full uptime

[sly drift]

What's the condition to unlock secret stage here

[tall sierra]

Silence does nothing to the bear

[river atlas]

solution: p5 lappy

[hollow current]

Need help clearing this stage please

[river atlas]

it disables rock throw apparently

[exotic grove]

testing with borrowrd e2 lappy rn we'll see

[tall sierra]

U have mr nothing?

[exotic grove]

u can trap the tile cancer once transferred to ranged op using the blocks

[sly drift]

Whats the requirement

Oh wait.. is this just need adverse+2

Nvm

[tall sierra]

Need to reach 16-19 to unlock the hidden cutscenes

[daring escarp]

YEEEE JAYE E0 WORKS

[tall sierra]

Jaye cut bear good

Bear sushi

[daring escarp]

It gonna take thrice as much time but it works i mean

[pearl compass]

End the chapter.
Really, don't need to bother, just do until end.

[tall sierra]

So who gonna do the hard way in H-4

Like dont use the bear to kill the boss

[pearl compass]

I will.

It should be fun.

– Hey hey, I'm in your team!
– Gooooooooooal ⚽

[daring escarp]

Lol jaye died cuz of bug

Lag bug

Its fine i came back since decel binder does arts dmg

[sly drift]

16-15 is insanely annoying bro. Are you kidding

[hidden axle]

[pearl compass]

You didn't see 16-16 yet.

Maybe in normal Adverse will be doable.
But in 2-Sim you will scream hard.

[sly drift]

16-15 is well planned bullshittery already.
There are unreachable global ranged aoe enemies but deployable map is so narrow and limited. While you have to keep those civilian alive so that they can block the unlockable.

Like... What do you mean???

[pearl compass]

You will see

Especially picking certain risk.

Remember the WD-EX-8?

[sly drift]

There is emperor blade?

[pearl compass]

No

Worse

[sly drift]

[pearl compass]

Just dudes

As last wave

But not Strikers.

Worse.

[sly drift]

Which enemy

[pearl compass]

Ursus Titanfall.

EX version.

6x

They will wreck everyone.

Regardless how tanky you are.

[sly drift]

[full sluice]

erm

loool

[pearl compass]

There's more.

Keep your breath.

[river atlas]

What even is the intended way to deal with this anyway

[full sluice]

i see that LMAO

[pearl compass]

Pipipipipipipipi

[river atlas]

i think i ended up cheesing the artillery with mlynar’s stun or something but thats kind of super specific

[sly drift]

So this is 16-16?

Hmm

[daring escarp]

Just necrosis burst + shamare + cuora

[daring escarp]

No modx yet

[hidden axle]

Ppl alrrsdu asking for bricks

Dw its not for me I am done with the stage

Tragodia+Dorothy s2

[daring escarp]

Ikr

[daring escarp]

?

[sly drift]

Switching bait.

[hidden axle]

You can perma stall with their s2s

[sly drift]

Still I can't do the correct timing lol

[hidden axle]

Now you could say why didnt I use a brick

To that I say

[haughty flower]

Small price they paid for the Red version: no more escape pod.

[hidden axle]

I forgot bricks exist

Also why I could pick atk buff and caster+defendee ban for ss

[pearl compass]

Yeah, good luck deploying your doll on banned tiles because all civs are dead.

The ban tile part is most bullshit part of Ep16 imo.

[daring escarp]

Just play around the mechanics and its ez

[pearl compass]

Because on Phase 2 you just couldn't do anything, if your defenses down.

I played.

[daring escarp]

[pearl compass]

Wasn't pleased tho.

But I did it anyway.

They could remove the fog if Urodsto is dead, but fuck you.

🥹

[daring escarp]

Its yurodstvo you ursusian

[exotic grove]

https://youtu.be/4PCoLkk_5Lc?si=jNyUm4cHSeJW3kmc

ok tested it a bunch and lappy does silence the rock

[daring escarp]

I said that e2 lappy works

How did your lappy die

[hidden axle]

Wiki foes say its silenceable

[exotic grove]

I haven’t been able to make e1 lappy work

[hidden axle]

But in-game desc does not

[daring escarp]

Oh wait you sold

[exotic grove]

I borrowed e2 lappy for testing

[daring escarp]

Just do all of them e0 except for cuora and get 4 medics real

[exotic grove]

gonna try e1 with haruka to make sure not a healing issue

also what makes bear turn around and repath to top right stair instead of middle left stair?

[hidden axle]

One is for when its fatigued and the other for phase change I think

It has 2 conditiins for triggering phase 2

[elder flume]

E1 Lapp has 0.2s downtime epr attack

More if longer range

Solution is get P5 Lapp

[pearl compass]

No, it's really Urodstvo (Ugliness)

[exotic grove]

ok yeah e1 pot1 lapp can't silence rock fully without help from aspd buffs

[daring escarp]

Ya znayu he's urodstvo

[elder flume]

Bear has 3 checkpoints

[pearl compass]

[elder flume]

Goes to shortest checkpoint when phase 1 buff dies

[exotic grove]

when monmon summon is down she can easily handle it but when removed the bear starts hurling rocks at haruka

[daring escarp]

Its funny thing idk, if you stall him he just changes path

[elder flume]

If adverse0 its just Haruka with mod1 Cuora

[daring escarp]

Now adverse2, not much of a difference

[elder flume]

I need max Cuora for adverse2

[exotic grove]

so I think e2 pot1 or e1 pot5 lappy is a hard req if doing lappy silence strat
unless there's an aspd buffer at 4* or below

[elder flume]

Jaye is a better silencer no

[daring escarp]

Jaye can die if lag spike happens

But yeah it works

[exotic grove]

where did u put jaye? behind bear?

[wicked minnow]

first time i had to learn mechanics of an event in a long ass time

[daring escarp]

Yes

#salt-mines message

[exotic grove]

does he get his world rocked

[wicked minnow]

jaye?

jaye rocks the bear

bear deals 0 damage to a defender

jaye deals a lot of damage to infected bear

[daring escarp]

Once and got my decel killed

[exotic grove]

[daring escarp]

Yet it has 150k hp

Lol

[wicked minnow]

150k hp when faced with jaye's butterknife or whatever he has on him

[hidden axle]

Sushi knife

[crisp bolt]

bear fillet

[wicked minnow]

mmmmm anyone excited for h16-4

[elder flume]

Surely god rng Gummy can do it too

[exotic grove]

Jaye is the Arknights' Sashimi Sword Master real!?

[elder flume]

And Frostleaf exists if you want aspd down on 4star

[hidden axle]

Frostleaf usecase damn

[exotic grove]

someone suggested god rng lappy s1 so whenever the bear rocks her she lives

[hidden axle]

Someone won the lottery eith ascalon dodge too

[crisp bolt]

surely rat wins

[exotic grove]

wait aspd down? on herself?

[wicked minnow]

you know that for everyone in the world to be a part of a tournament, it would have to only have 33 rounds. now that's using 1/2 odds. change those odds to 26% and have gummy sustain it for like god knows how long. 🥹

[elder flume]

She applies cold

[wicked minnow]

how many crits would she need

[daring escarp]

Just mon3tr aspd up and skill

[exotic grove]

monmon is cheating

[daring escarp]

She should be able hit twice each stun

[vocal leaf]

bear is so easy you can do it with free ops

[exotic grove]

now do it with 5* welfare

[vocal leaf]

im not schizo skilled enough

[daring escarp]

Bear is so easy i did with e1 4☆

10 ops btw

[vocal leaf]

cs stalling the bear is so good, gives puzzle time to generate dp and also for miksa to be deployed and charge skill

cs best operator

[crisp bolt]

I'm having a frustrating time with a strat I'm trying to do

[tender orbit]

:glueless

[crisp bolt]

the bear lock on seems a bit inconsistent

or at least I'm not understanding it right

[daring escarp]

?

16-12 or which

[crisp bolt]

I'm trying something stupid for 16-12

[daring escarp]

Stall enraged phase

[crisp bolt]

that's not the problem

[daring escarp]

?

[crisp bolt]

I can't figure out why the hell the bear won't lock on sometimes

:realmad:

[daring escarp]

Most dmg

[scarlet fulcrum]

Remember emperor blade?

[crisp bolt]

then how the fuck does he randomly lock on to lin when I deploy

and then other times he doesn't

0 damage done

[daring escarp]

Dmg and last deployed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Recorded on that run

After Deployed

[crisp bolt]

I'm legit placing her down and sometimes he just pretends she doesn't exist 🥀

and then walks to blue box

[daring escarp]

Phase 1 attacks about 1.3 tiles away from him

Same with phase 2

Rocks hit mostdmg to bear>last deployed/aggro

[crisp bolt]

yeah then why does it not recognize sometimes that Lin is in his attack range 🥀

[daring escarp]

Too far msybe?

[crisp bolt]

idk how, she's on the tile right below him

[daring escarp]

Animation is full right?

[elder flume]

?

[daring escarp]

Also bear can't attack ranged units until they hit him

Just tested that

Maybe during phase 2 can

[crisp bolt]

I'm literally

placing lin down and having the bear target her

immediately

also having some times where lin is randomly dying in phase 1 which is weird. Not sure how the debuff works

[daring escarp]

When dealing damage, inflicts a debuff to the target that causes them to take +100% damage from the Rampaging Abnormal Manglerbeast for 20 seconds.

[crisp bolt]

yeah but does it have a cooldown or something?

[daring escarp]

Idk, it fells kinda ass, i tested on other phalanx it doesnt

[daring escarp]

Passive

[scarlet fulcrum]

I think boss prio checkpoints when the buff on phase1 gone, so he wont target anyone. Probably someone already test it

So like u can just wait him or stall him till die

[crisp bolt]

here's example

my flametail died this time but sometimes she is still alive when he switched

and then my lin died in this run

[daring escarp]

Does shield has aggro wtf

[glass monolith]

It is called being in enemy range

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats still his range

[crisp bolt]

yeah, earlier I was having a weird moment where around the same area he would just ignore Lin

[scarlet fulcrum]

thats him prioritize checkpoint

[crisp bolt]

weird

[daring escarp]

So you dealt dmg or nah?

[forest dove]

Guys. I need help. Can anyone give me strats for RM H8????

[crisp bolt]

I can't, she has windup on deploy

[daring escarp]

OH WAIT

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not weird, its his whole mechanic

[daring escarp]

Bear has 3x3 attack

Lin shield does dmg reflect

[scarlet fulcrum]

Only if the shiled broke

[glass monolith]

No it doesn't, she damages when it breaks if it break Lin follows

[forest dove]

Who, in god's green earth, design this hideous level. Everyone is so CHONK. and slow as heck getting to the choke point

[daring escarp]

There was strat hoshi2 s2, haruka s2, lemuen s1

[crisp bolt]

why does lin sometimes get deleted though?

[forest dove]

Who's Lemuen?

[daring escarp]

Shileds is broke ig

[daring escarp]

A sniper, exusiai's adopted sister

Pink haired

In a wheelchair

[glass monolith]

Yeets 3200 damage rock in face

[forest dove]

I'll check if my friend has one

[crisp bolt]

I mean in phase 1

[glass monolith]

If boss apply physical fragile it calculates before Lin shield threshold

[forest dove]

Got her. Wish me luck

[crisp bolt]

this is what I was asking about before

is there a cooldown on the fragile?

[glass monolith]

Well I arrived only now

[crisp bolt]

wiki.gg L has 0 info on it

[glass monolith]

And now I leave

[daring escarp]

You can borrow someone else's even without masteries or modules if you bring exceptional appointment on her or get workforce expansion from skill tree

[daring escarp]

Gl

[scarlet fulcrum]

Did u activate her skill?

[forest dove]

Lemuen S1 is enough?

[daring escarp]

She's maxed and outpost+advanced detector

[crisp bolt]

shouldn't matter if I have mod3

she has higher threshold

unless there's a bs frame window

[scarlet fulcrum]

She has frame where her trait gone, if u lucky she will get reckt

[crisp bolt]

[forest dove]

For crazy ASPD okay

[crisp bolt]

I knew it

how have I hit that frame window so many times

[scarlet fulcrum]

ccb3 experience

[crisp bolt]

it's been too long since ccb2

I forgor

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh wait thats ccb2 nvm

[crisp bolt]

yeah the SN one

I keep hitting it 🥀

[elder flume]

think they fixed bear stuck

cant proc it anymore

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is this with hp risk bear?

iirc he will enter phase2 earlier with that, not really remember

[crisp bolt]

I'm not doing sim

just trying something stupid in adverse

[scarlet fulcrum]

oh is it related to his pathing?

[crisp bolt]

it's just lin is my only source of phase 1 damage

[elder flume]

ye if close enough to stairs then they will skip checkpoint

supposed to path break from there and lead into bear stuck but seems like they fixed it

bear is also directional so uh

thats not fun to explain

[scarlet fulcrum]

smt like path break eun mod in wrong mode?

[elder flume]

more like Steam Knight missile

it works the same

the same frame they go into stair while triggering missile

they prio missile but get stuck in air indefinitely

only global range ops can attack

[scarlet fulcrum]

[elder flume]

i cant fully dissect the Lin immediate deploy attack without full recording tbh

[scarlet fulcrum]

So still can be targeted, good thing

[elder flume]

since i need to see the start

[crisp bolt]

it's just bear switching targets

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MrxyzWEEm/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click example vid

[crisp bolt]

cause she's deployed

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah probably that

[elder flume]

from what i know if bear is to the right of an op dealing damage > process if the target is attackable > if attackable then proceed to create a checkpoint to attack > if not dealt damage in a while then remove checkpoint

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah thats it

[crisp bolt]

but yeah for some reason if the bear is on the right half of the tile above lin is deployed on

he will ignore her?

[scarlet fulcrum]

phone dying time to dip

[elder flume]

Its more about faction

If your ops are the one dealing latest hit then it attempts to find source of damage but will attack closest in range

[pearl compass]

Oh wait, he cannot breach the rat?

His ATK is so low?

[glass monolith]

Do not the rat

[crisp bolt]

in phase 1 at least

[elder flume]

Its only 1.2k attack

[pearl compass]

Lmao

Ok

[crisp bolt]

does he get stuck in phase 2?

or will he keep walking?

[glass monolith]

Something something I think he does fragile and that's why number look abnormal on low def, I think, idk, he got blocked by nearl in phase 2 and bullies to death on my quartz attempt

[pearl compass]

He will move, but he will gets busy attacking near units

[elder flume]

it has hatred

[pearl compass]

Including rat

[elder flume]

will attempt to find the one that attacked him in phase 1

[glass monolith]

Bro phase 2 just throw rock at rat and leaves

[crisp bolt]

🥀

I guess I have to add another op to it

[elder flume]

btw to answer your debuff question
pretty sure its 20s cd

or rather the first application is 20s but if removed then has to wait until this first timer dies

[crisp bolt]

why is cement s2 so ass

[pearl compass]

Meme unit

[crisp bolt]

20 sp windup on a duelist is so awful

and I got hit by the bear checkpoint

bro walked away

for context this is my strat

[elder flume]

it works better if you put FT left side

[crisp bolt]

unfortunately I can't

dp cost too tight 🥀

[elder flume]

pot6 the rat

[sacred edge]

best way to cheese bear ?

i was thinking

[elder flume]

Exu2 Nothing

[sacred edge]

no nothing

and

i was thinking

tragodia

[elder flume]

Hoshi1 Haruka

[sacred edge]

stall the motherfucker

and then lemon clown

[elder flume]

Trag needs Mon3 Ange iirc

[sacred edge]

neither

[sacred edge]

fuck me then ig

ill show you my squad

wait

[crisp bolt]

[elder flume]

damn malicious hardware

[sacred edge]

they were just launch args for my game on steam

[elder flume]

im guessing no Exu2 in possession

[crisp bolt]

okay I think I can do this in 5

[lime lantern]

you can just pull him around if you borrow ling s2

then use whatever to kill it

probably lemuen

[sacred edge]

nope

if i had her

i'd be using her

she is almost as good as walter if not better

[sacred edge]

got it

[crisp bolt]

bro flametail s3 failed to dodge the rock :realmad:

[river atlas]

all u need is a conventional medic + defense defender, and then a pile of cheap bodies to lure the boss around til the enrage ends

could prob do it with raidian cuora ansel and hibiscus

[crisp bolt]

but wouldn't it be funnier if I

got it

5 rats bully a bear

[thick sphinx]

[river atlas]

I misremembered raidian’s summon dp cost, def not

Also jaye s1 is pretty great

[crisp bolt]

shame I can't do this in sim because it's either snip/cast ban or def/med ban

yeah being able to silence the stun is very useful

[river atlas]

not like sim even does anything besides the ban

Assuming you take the lv1 perk that isnt atk

[crisp bolt]

yeah I'm not even hitting the cap anyways for phase 1 so that option is actually 0

[elder flume]

its still +20% atk without atk buff

[river atlas]

yeah but thats whatever

The actual atk option is scary

[crisp bolt]

that's enough to kill lin isn't it?

[river atlas]

cuora gets oneshot by it iirc

[elder flume]

my Cuora cant tank with adverse2 anymore

i should record the damage

it was 130 adverse0

[crisp bolt]

it screws over my phase 1 so hard if I can't lin

and I can't forgo defender/medic

surely body stall works :clueless:

[elder flume]

530 in adverse2 without taking atk buff hm

1830 adverse2 atk buff

[daring escarp]

Wtf

[elder flume]

wonder if Ptiloed Lumen S2 is worth

26 sp to charge
with Ptilo mod3 its 19.3s
enough to keep cleansing debuff all the time

[daring escarp]

I wonder what are yall cooking

[crisp bolt]

I shouldn't be cooking

[daring escarp]

To beat atk buff?

[elder flume]

idk
i just have a curiosity to think of scenarios

sometimes schizo

beating that atk buff shouldnt be hard

[daring escarp]

Ratnights peak

[crisp bolt]

I have an idea for sim

using dororat s2

[river atlas]

beating it is easy, the boss is very vulnerable to cc

[crisp bolt]

bind the bear phase 1

[river atlas]

I want to tank the atk buff

Speaking of cc

if u wanna buy some time for skills to charge and dp and stuff, consider starting with u official

[crisp bolt]

here's what I'm trying to do

contrail

use s2 drag the bear from one half of the map to the other

nevermind bear forgor

[daring escarp]

I wonder if its possible to beat the bear with raidian s2 spam, double flags and gravel to bait stone

[river atlas]

How do u plan to bait the stone with gravel

[daring escarp]

Since raidian does no dmg

And flags are in corners

It prioritizes last deployed operator

[crisp bolt]

you can't really bait it with gravel

[daring escarp]

I did

[crisp bolt]

:roswao:

[daring escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-skadi-skalter-arknights-skadi-spin-gif-15393660333946993991

[river atlas]

Does it not target the s2 summons in that situation

[daring escarp]

Summons arent priority

Damn i gotta e2 gravel atp

[crisp bolt]

shame

[daring escarp]

Grrr

S2 has better range, s3 shenanigans with slow + bear going around

Hmm

[pearl compass]

You cannot bait the stone

[daring escarp]

[pearl compass]

It has special targeting to hit most damaging unit

[daring escarp]

I know

[pearl compass]

It ends up hitting Lemon or Mly

[daring escarp]

Summons arent direct hit from raidian

[crisp bolt]

that's how I've been getting away with dororat

[elder flume]

oh yea the atk buff just dies to Hoshi1 Shining Aak

Aak S2M3 usage

[daring escarp]

SHINING

Damn

[river atlas]

Raidian doesnt have enough summons

[daring escarp]

When thorns alter s1 usage

[daring escarp]

That's why im wondering if its possible

[river atlas]

Not if gravel is your only filler no

Raidian only gets enough time to refill 2 summons

[daring escarp]

Oh right

Redeploy raidian tech

[river atlas]

Wish IS module worked outside zzz

[daring escarp]

Second module has better atk stat

I forgot raidian s1 can stall infinitely

During skill

No dmg dealt to it

But enraged phase 2 mehh

Trag + raidian

Ccb4 flashbacks

Oh wait i forgot about stones again

Grr

[crisp bolt]

rats bully a bear (sim version)

[sonic willow]

oh no my worst enemy

[crisp bolt]

I will not slander Ashlock damage anymore

[river atlas]

Behold some mild tomfoolery

I messed up slightly but im too lazy to redo it

[daring escarp]

LOL

[daring escarp]

I dont see thorns alter s1

[river atlas]

I think 6k is possible if i was willing to m3

The heck am i going to do with 100 def

Is it even base def

[daring escarp]

200

[daring escarp]

No

Maybe

[elder flume]

hate that it walks in phase 2

phase 1 it just stays attacking

i run Hoshi1 S1 due to higher def and avoids reflect

[river atlas]

200 is low

even 300 is low

Thats about +31% def if its flat on my hoshi

Shining 100% +140
Bryo 94%
Aak 80%
Nian 80%
Saileach 50%
Roberta 43%
Whislash 42%

[elder flume]

oh you had Aak attack bear

i made sure mine doesnt have a chance at stunning

[river atlas]

Oh yeah i should run hoshi s1…

Good idea

[vestal badge]

Who to swap for 16-16?

[river atlas]

Wait no i just remembered bubble exists

heh

[young cairn]

Hmm with no protector built I'm wondering how to deal with the 16-12 bear without borrowing

[vestal badge]

I found ling to be better

[wicked minnow]

i didnt use a protector on my main

i just random bullshit go

tragodia, exu2, ines etc.

[young cairn]

Just cos the most straightforward way is to tank it and slap multiple medics

And we know cuora/hoshi can tank the bear

[wicked minnow]

literally all the bricks can tank the bear but ye

also

he isnt stun immune

[young cairn]

https://www.krooster.com/u/gvm unfortunately i have no real brick

[young cairn]

Yea I'm trying to clickstall it but I'm having difficulty setting up cos not enough time to get sp

Don't have enough dp too

I don't even have enough dp to put a medic down before saria dies

I wanna see if i can do this before resorting to borrow

[elder flume]

no Eureka rip

[young cairn]

Who?

[wicked minnow]

U official

[young cairn]

Oh

Yea i started this account right after ato ended

[covert forge]

https://youtu.be/J0pnJ5qVArE?si=5NcixyD6Tsq0UzDz

Can someone explain why my first deployed units are being targetted?

[wicked minnow]

at what point?

they were hitting the civilians

they couldnt reach your kroos/fang

[covert forge]

Watch till the end

[young cairn]

So uhh yea idk how to tackle this

[wicked minnow]

i watched to the end

there's nothing weird here

[elder flume]

you pretty much just cycle low cost snipers no

[wicked minnow]

what part exactly

[elder flume]

theyre talking about Hibiscus dying

[wicked minnow]

i was gonna raidian s2 spam

[wicked minnow]

oh i didnt pay attention to that

hmmmm

[covert forge]

Hibiscus dying

Midnight and Melantha were next targets

Is it HG coding or Oyster oopsie this time?

[young cairn]

Spaghetti 🍝

[oblique magnet]

Does the bear have stun immunity or something? I put down exu alter, I put down mr nothing, I throw exualter's s2 onto mr nothing and the boss is only stunned once for 4 seconds
What am I doing wrong?

[elder flume]

do you have mod2

actually idk if mod is needed hm

mod2 3 just helps a lot

and depends if you used red skill

[pearl compass]

No, easily stunned.

[young cairn]

Holup who's tanking the bear

[pearl compass]

You need Mr. Nothing's mod to shorten the Stun requirement.

From 4 to 3 sec

[wicked minnow]

mudrock s2 can tank the bear after he's calmed down 2nd phase lmao

she gets stunned tho so she cant solo

[pearl compass]

So with ExuAlt S2, he will have exact 3 sec to hit an enemy every attack.

[wicked minnow]

had to replace with saria

and dps down with raidian s2

but ye

[young cairn]

How did you get thru phase 1

[wicked minnow]

myrtle for dp

raidian s2 to keep baiting it back

[pearl compass]

Just tank dude.

[wicked minnow]

he doesnt want to borrow

[young cairn]

Oh raidian s2 interesting

[wicked minnow]

he has nothing that can tank

raidian s3 should work as well btw

lowkey i think only s1 doesnt work and that's her tanking skill

[young cairn]

S3 has higher dp tho yea?

[wicked minnow]

same dp

[young cairn]

Ah ok if both works

[wicked minnow]

the idea is to bait him for phase 1. phase 2 he's more managable cuz the adrenaline ran out or smthn

[young cairn]

Ok gotcha lemme try

[wicked minnow]

i thought s2 was pretty easy tho

so i dont see why you'd do s3 route

also

phase 2, you bait him and slow him down a tiny bit

[young cairn]

Did you bait the rocks with a summon or smth?

[wicked minnow]

myrtle took one for the team

[young cairn]

good job myrtle

[wicked minnow]

she was the one that damaged him most during phase transition

[young cairn]

Ok let's see if i can do this

[oblique magnet]

Ohhh

[daring escarp]

I MEAN

[left egret]

I suppose silverash s2 can tank the 16-12 bear pretty the same as cuora or still better to use cuora?

[young cairn]

Ok did you retreat myrtle after popping skill? Cos sl7 seems to be missing the time to drop raidian s2 summon by like 1 dp

[wicked minnow]

oh uhhh

my myrtle is s1m3

[young cairn]

Does he? He's got only around 750-800 def right?

[wicked minnow]

he'll get mauled

2 tapped

[daring escarp]

Yea s2 sash works

Use more medics

[craggy heron]

assuming they have lv90 s2m3

[wicked minnow]

[broken idol]

(Might survive with medics then)

[daring escarp]

Ppl dont know about 4 medics + tank patriot stall smh

[young cairn]

I tried to stall but my saria gets 2tapped at e2 lv60 mody1

Before i had enough dp to drop a medic

[elder flume]

Saria is low def

[daring escarp]

Cuz you have to stall enraged phase

[elder flume]

long ramp up too

[daring escarp]

Or just higher def

[broken idol]

I used both kroos + Myrtle to generate enough dp for 2 medics + a defender
luring the bear away

[elder flume]

is this where i shill Texas Zima Confess Bag Fang2

[young cairn]

Ok lemme adjust by adding kroos and krooster, lure 1st to get more time

[daring escarp]

Paradox sim comp btw

[broken idol]

If you still have space on your rooster, then it’s fine (or any other sniper)

[daring escarp]

Decel binders work if you time retreating right

Ngl my completion of it its so cursed like shit

[elder flume]

Ambriel S2 can walk the bear for a bit

[broken idol]

That was funny to see lmao

[elder flume]

low end runs Lapp2 S1 and just cycling between on off skill

[daring escarp]

Hey

[elder flume]

same concept

[daring escarp]

😭

Mine is afk

[young cairn]

Ok the stall is doable with kroos and krooster in the roster although the dp is still hella tight

I messed up in my trial run but i think this is doable

[wicked minnow]

idk if it's a bit late to say now but you dont need myrtle at all

your raidian s2 not having masteries might be a problem tho

if you are using raidian

it explains why you might struggle a little more with it than my clear

[young cairn]

I ended up actually needing myrtle otherwise i don't have enough dp to get the summons out

[wicked minnow]

yooo gg

[young cairn]

But yea i ended up being able to clear it with 3 medics + saria, a bit of stall, and the trick to beating the stun is placing mon3tr summon behind saria

Whenever saria is stunned the bear will move forward, try to hit the crystal, then the moment saria recovers the bear gets pushed back

[limpid ore]

i actually have enough time to deploy hoshi2 with just nat DP generation, who costs 26 DP, more expensive than ulpianus
-# she died almost instantly

problem is... more DEF is better against this bear

[young cairn]

Saria + multiple medics can tank the bear if you stall out the rage mode of phase 2

Otherwise it's rip

[limpid ore]

hoshi1 can tank the bear for a while tbh

[young cairn]

Yep hoshi1 can straight up just tank everything

I think i saw a maxed out hoshi1 backed by haruka and it afked the bear with help from ulpianus to tank the rock throw

[limpid ore]

even non maxed works

[glass monolith]

Well Haruka is +42% effective hp cheat

[limpid ore]

as long as haruka didnt get stoned first

[broken idol]

I remember that cuora or mon3tr summon could tank it iirc

[limpid ore]

cuora with module is just more DEF per DEF

[broken idol]

E1 l60 module-less

[young cairn]

Ah, no sniper fml how am i supposed to stall the bear with the gaps between raidian summons

[limpid ore]

ethan s2?

stall until the rage depleted

it also not immune to lots of status

[young cairn]

I know, the issue is i can stall him with raidian but there are gaps at times and i usually fill the void with kroos or krooster cos they're atleast cheap dp wise

Ethan is 19 dp I'm already tight on the dp as is

[limpid ore]

yato

[young cairn]

Yato doesn't bait the bear to create distance

[limpid ore]

smh

[young cairn]

Just takes a hit and barely gets extra time

But whatever i can borrow for simulation, not like it'll ever need to be autoable on my end

[next wigeon]

Jusy do Exu2 plus Mr Nothing

To infinitely stun the dumb bear

[hidden axle]

You liked tragodia stall why struggling with bear then 🥀

Also any e2 brick can deal with him along with medics

[daring escarp]

Im preparing low end clear

I mean uploading

[hidden axle]

Someone said their e1 max cuora didnt survive yours did?

[hidden axle]

Dr. Silvergun has a 3 star and beloe clear btw

[next wigeon]

Tbf low end is indeed possible under the cocaine bear

Yeap that's the one

[hidden axle]

Jaye cuora and 1-2 medics

Shrimple

[daring escarp]

Pog

[hidden axle]

(Dont ask how long his clear is)

[next wigeon]

The one I know is more tedious

[daring escarp]

Mine is 25 minutes lol

(Including stops)

[young cairn]

Nope can't do it got neither

[daring escarp]

15 minutes to outdps bear

5-6 minutes to prepare the setup

[hidden axle]

Do you have any e2 max brick

[young cairn]

Mostly cos i wanted to do it without borrow which i finally did, ended up borrowing for simulation tho cos there's no auto anyway

[young cairn]

Nope no brick, would've been easy if i had one

[hidden axle]

Just ehat did you do

cuz simulation doesnt affect yout strategy

[next wigeon]

Lin plus Shining?

[hidden axle]

silvetgun is 10 mins minus cut in between which probably ladted 30 mins or so given the dmg rate

[young cairn]

Raidian+snipers stall phase 1, then stall phase 2 with bodies and after the rage runs out saria + 3 medics tanks the bear

Can't do it on simulation cos sniper ban

[hidden axle]

Oh yeah nvm that ban does affect your stratrgy

[young cairn]

So i just borrowed hoshi1 and eztanked it

[hidden axle]

Sniper or defender

Gotta choose

🥀

[south bone]

borrow crownslayer

[next wigeon]

Lappland is the answer for Phase 2 Rock Throw

[hidden axle]

Truly based ppl abuse tragodia and dorothy s2

[young cairn]

Nope got neither but dw cleared it

[next wigeon]

[young cairn]

Based

[daring escarp]

Mine is easier to replicate and much lower investment.
Ngl still impressed of that completion of his

[young cairn]

I mean the irl sanity investment to do a run that long is impressive on its own

[daring escarp]

I was just afking at the end

[grim nacelle]

https://www.krooster.com/u/clear-crimson-mouse-60va hi what operators should I borrow to do 16-16

[hidden axle]

Holeh gummy masteries on a young account

[broken idol]

With 3 medics, yes

[daring escarp]

Do trag

[hidden axle]

[grim nacelle]

Used the free one from the login.Maxed out ethan's skill 2 mastery

[worn root]

16-16 supporter only

Was a bit difficult but wasn't anything too hard

[hidden axle]

What da texas in supporterknights

[worn root]

Texas the pot simulator

[cinder vector]

i miss the old days when the supporters actually supported

[worn root]

They can still support (by killing enemies)

[young cairn]

True, the best cc is death

[pearl compass]

[sly drift]

• "Supporter" only
• Look inside
• Ling, Tragodia (Carry)

[worn root]

Technically, they're supporters

So it counts

[oblique magnet]

Dude how much damage does the Bear's boulder deal

My Silence s3 fails to keep him from oneshotting my ops

[hidden axle]

A lot

[oblique magnet]

How much

I need to know who else can use to make them live aside from SilenceAlter

[hidden axle]

Let me visit the wiki in your stead

[oblique magnet]

It doesn't say how much

Only that it's 150% of his current attack

[pearl compass]

Take ATK stat, take ATK% from skill.

Math.

[hidden axle]

[oblique magnet]

It doesn't account for his atk buffs in 2 forms

Or the 1st risk in simcom

[pearl compass]

You mean you took the risk with ATK+?

[mental venture]

do yall have anything to use for the bullshit they give you on leftside

[pearl compass]

KroosAlter

[hidden axle]

You dont take atk+ if you are doing the tank-with-brick strat

Tho ig haruka can save your brick from that as well

[pearl compass]

1000 × 1,5 =

[hidden axle]

2k actually

Second form gets +100% atk

[pearl compass]

Ah, I see

3000 Phys

[limpid ore]

+100% atk * 3 hits

[pearl compass]

If with that risk, 5400 Phys

[oblique magnet]

He still oneshots sakiko

[pearl compass]

...

No wonder.

Would be surprised, if he doesn't.

[limpid ore]

also, you use level 1 stats instead since it's adverse mode

which is 1200 atk base

[pearl compass]

Nope, L0

[limpid ore]

[hidden axle]

oh yeah forgot that part

[oblique magnet]

I wonder if CE will do the job..

[limpid ore]

surely cuora can tank until you set up your medic

[limpid ore]

smh, fraud boss

[pearl compass]

No wonder.

[oblique magnet]

Yeah it works

[pearl compass]

Wis + Gravel Duo.

[hidden axle]

Oh yeah cant hit wis can he

[pearl compass]

May, if she's wideopen without Revenants.

[limpid ore]

the rock throw isnt aoe

blud is bootleg lost colossus

[pearl compass]

And yeah, rock is single target.

[hidden axle]

Wisable boss smh, fraud indeed

[limpid ore]

time to install wings to the lost colossus and multi target and bigger splash and 50 seconds stun

[pearl compass]

Funny thing

Caster Talisman applies to Rosmontis, if she has a module.

[hidden axle]

[pearl compass]

Literally, Caster + VG

And this shit is on Rosm

[limpid ore]

well, her module make her counts as caster class but not subclass

[pearl compass]

Initially

[pearl compass]

🥹

Now it's debuff

They did dirty on my kitten

[plucky flint]

hmmm, so you really can't deal dmg to bear phase 1 to make it below 20% hp

they literally make lemon dmg to 0

[hidden axle]

Ind3ed

Even if it was possible smh it would be a bug and hence get fixed soon

[plucky flint]

don't think they do something like that, everything is fixed after they release something

[glass monolith]

Logos S1 2 million damage blast on rerun (fixed after rerun)

[weak gazelle]

hmm
not what i expected (weaker than i tho), but at least know how it work

well, less trust and modless
guess mod3 is mandatory if want to play her extensively

[glass monolith]

How long on Loop Knights event timer

[hidden axle]

Think wr have a week left

[dapper hedge]

Weakass bear

[plucky flint]

Y u hiding the left side of map

[indigo helm]

I was deploying Shu, Hoshiguma and wondering why they're doing until I realized I just

needed defense

so I used cuora and just immediatly won

though to be honest it is cuora
she'd survive no matter what fr fr

[limpid ore]

hoshi the breacher has rather poor piss DEF

[indigo helm]

yeah she's a good tank because she has two healthbars

[limpid ore]

she is mostly DPS

[indigo helm]

not cuz she has good def LOL

(immortality, too)

then I like

"okay what if I just use someone with stupid high def"

????

win

[dapper hedge]

Attack down is better vs bear than having high def

[dapper hedge]

Why do you even want staring at empty space

[limpid ore]

tbh, even with (technically) triple health bar at E2
she dies pretty fast to the bear

[indigo helm]

honestly I'm just used to bosses mostly oneshotting you without a healer

[dapper hedge]

The bear had piss poor attack

[indigo helm]

so I was surprised it worked LOL

[indigo helm]

yeah I know LOL

[limpid ore]

isnt her negative health 200% of her max HP

[indigo helm]

Shu is not very tanky she just heals a lot
(and teleports), which like would be good here IF SHE DIDN'T DIE IN TWO HITS BEFORE I CAN ACTIVATE THE SKILL

[dapper hedge]

It hits hard cause each hit do 200% dmg & hit twice

[limpid ore]

this shit is very like Maj'eyal

[plucky flint]

I'm just not used to seeing crop vid, just my personal preference

[cinder pike]

16-16 is cooking me abit

[indigo helm]

think so

[cinder pike]

but don't want to bring any invis reveal

lol

[indigo helm]

use Totters then

he doesn't ivis reveal

[dapper hedge]

Lemuen 👍

[indigo helm]

XD

[limpid ore]

it only deals 200% dmg when attacking enemies, not your operators

[indigo helm]

oh yeah I now realized that the miners are not healed directly by medic they heal a certain ammount if they're in a medic range

which makes kaltsit surprisingly very good on those new stages LOL

[limpid ore]

instead, it inflicts debuff that increase damage taken by +100%

[indigo helm]

yeah which is why high defense motherfuckers can just

ignore that

😭

Cuora my beloved

[limpid ore]

at phase 2 rage state it's pretty much 400% dmg 3 times

since it has +100% ATK

[limpid ore]

same logic apply to us
when enemies have high defense
just hit them with higher attack

[plucky flint]

classic physical damage solution

[dapper hedge]

Oh yeah

Well eitherway the bear is weak ass fuck if you just drop his attack

[limpid ore]

shamare s2

you can try frighten and paralyze
but the three claw attacks are ability

[dapper hedge]

Shamare has downtime,

This is why narantuya good

[plucky flint]

ngl, any decent protector defender can stall bear with just 1 medic

so it's just a statstick boss for new players

[limpid ore]

anti crusher guard

[plucky flint]

no wonder ulpi got eaten by the bear

[limpid ore]

even if you bring gladiia

it gets counteract by the debuff the bear inflicted

[plucky flint]

ye, haruka + gladiia ain't working too

Just need def like a normal person

[hasty minnow]

im regretting not building any defenders

[limpid ore]

[floral parcel]

Any easy strat for this

I have these

[pearl compass]

It's easy walk.

I bet even Nightingale will be enough as a healer, if not - bring EyjaAlter from SupportUnit.

Wis and Chalter should kill most of the enemies from afar and in close range easily.