strategy

[tall basin]

do i deploy other units in the meantime

to stop them

[fierce narwhal]

Mech accords are neat, also stun on S2 is handy when it decides to proc

[hexed zodiac]

Well now you have Wis here so just place blockers and use Wis to kill everything

[clever salmon]

Is it bug for the lasts team knight to just stop attacking

[wanton rover]

My only problem is dp cost. Kroos is super early and cheap while Click is crazy expensive

[hexed zodiac]

Are you using trag?

[fierce narwhal]

I mean, you have Cantabile, just drop in front of some enemies with S1 with Matsu being a wall while you get DP up

[clever salmon]

No it just stopped attacking with its enhance auto for like the whole entire time

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah but click is the best arts caster for 4 stars he will deal a lot of damage

[clever salmon]

It only attacked like by flying up in the air and just barraging me but that’s it

It’s just a forty second clip but that’s how it was for the whole fight

[elder flume]

this the reason

[clever salmon]

What does this reason do?

[elder flume]

read arts gear

[hexed zodiac]

En moment 🥀

[elder flume]

most strats follow the same format

low sp cost + arts gear

[hexed zodiac]

@tall basin were you able to clear it?

[wanton rover]

I wanted to fit in Texas somehow, but it's hard to compete with Canta+Matsukiri

[clever salmon]

Wait so what does sakiko do to prevent it from attacking?

[tall basin]

byeah

[elder flume]

tremble spam

[fierce narwhal]

I mean, Matsu is just fine for DP genning with Canta, just remember to helidrop her

[silver tartan]

hey guys can yall help me build a team for 6-16? https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/nick

i did watch some guide but it kinda outdated so i kinda need a hand here

[elder flume]

the usual suspect huh

[wanton rover]

@fierce narwhal @hexed zodiac I just realized I still have the 4* e2 and max lvl vouchers. Should I use it in Click or on Cuora?

[elder flume]

think Sakiko alone alr kills

[hexed zodiac]

Click if anything bc damage above all else but hold on

[fierce narwhal]

I’ll leave that to Killari, I’m not versed in what you should use that on

[wanton rover]

I forgot about it and ended up e1 both...oh well

[hexed zodiac]

Do you have umiri and do you plan to use umiri?

[hexed zodiac]

If you already E1ed them then don’t spend ticket on them instead on Ethan if you haven’t built him yet

[young cairn]

Ideally you want to use it for 4* who wants module or benefits a lot from it, ethan comes immediately to mind (jaye if you're a jaye user but nowadays that seems to be rare)

[wanton rover]

Hmm don't think I have it

[young cairn]

4* ticket tho

[hexed zodiac]

No umiri band member? What about Ethan

[wanton rover]

Ooohhh ofc, ye, I have Umiri

But she is 5*

[elder flume]

SL7 modless lol

[hexed zodiac]

Ok can I see your roster again then

[wanton rover]

https://www.krooster.com/u/radio

[young cairn]

Tequila sl3

[wanton rover]

I really dislike Tequila with a passion

[hexed zodiac]

Ok go to the red cert shop and buy Ethan and use the ticket on him, use Ethan in your squad by replacing Matsukiri or canta whichever you feel less comfy with. Eventually you’ll want to E2 umiri an replace Ethan with her.

Ethan is still good for IS and IS6 specifically so it’s not a waste

[young cairn]

Ethan is so goated in IS6

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah hit count enemies against his S1 just die

[young cairn]

Nowadays i run tragodia ethan starts cos it's so goated

Who needs a pure carry, just pick one up on the way

[wanton rover]

Shouldnt I just ignore Ethan and go directly to start building Umiri thn?

[hexed zodiac]

I got cucked out of a win bc my game crashed so I’m still salty

[young cairn]

They do different things

Umiri is a dps ambusher with utility

Ethan is a bind machine

[hexed zodiac]

There aren’t better options for your E2 ticket since it’s for 4 stars an you already E1ed clicks en cuora

[young cairn]

One is there to do damage while supporting sakiko, the other is to stop enemies from moving

[hexed zodiac]

You don’t use both in your squad tho

[somber falcon]

just use the e2 ticket on bubble for a pure tank or click if you want more arts dealer
ethan doesn't need e2 if you only want his s1

[hexed zodiac]

You can use Ethan now and umiri in the future

[young cairn]

I mean i used both for go ex8 cm

[scarlet fulcrum]

Weight paper indeed

[hexed zodiac]

Well whatever works

[wanton rover]

I really wish we had a place to test the chars, like Paradox Sim but before investing

[young cairn]

I just don't think they're comparable with each other in the first place

Since they do completely diff things

[elder flume]

its called friends

[wicked minnow]

just borrow

[mighty mantle]

Just borrow and click a practice stage or SSS

[elder flume]

me when i pester #friend-id to find who will E2 max M3 when a new op releases

[wanton rover]

E1 is crazy cheap, I could ticket any of those 2 without remorse if you think it's best

[tall basin]

@hexed zodiac ty again btw i also managed to do go-8 borrowless

[young cairn]

Honestly e2 ethan with the ticket, it's worth

He's just such a nice unit

[hexed zodiac]

Regardless you want Ethan, out of the other options I’d still choose Ethan bc I moded him and masteries his S2 for stall tactics in IS for the later stages when hit count isn’t a problem for me anymore. I do not have the same use case for click cuora or bubble

E1 those and forget

[wanton rover]

Duly noted!
What's the Red/Sanity ratio on farm?

[young cairn]

E2 click would've been p nice if the module wasnt so... unimpactful

[hexed zodiac]

Ey congrats yeah you’ll want to auto that stage with all your spare sanity after clearing as much of the event as you can so you can farm gel

[tall basin]

nice, i just hope i'll have the stages still unlocked after the event ends

[hexed zodiac]

120 sanity to 90 certs?? I think? Don’t quote me

[elder flume]

less

[hexed zodiac]

Oof

[elder flume]

30 sanity for 20-22 per run

could be less if 2star clear

[hexed zodiac]

Ok….so I was right close

[wanton rover]

Also use the lvl70 voucher on Ethan?

[young cairn]

Ethan likes having his module so you're gonna level him to 40 at least anyway

Something you're not gonna do to too many 4* units

[wanton rover]

Oh! I also have the lvl80 5* voucher, forgot about this one

[young cairn]

Ok now that's a lot more complicated

I still haven't used mine as well cos the ones i want to level for module i have already leveled so I'm waiting for a nice 5* drop

Maybe one of the agents or smth if i haven't pulled ines by then

[hexed zodiac]

If nothing rn then umiri hold on I’ll check

[wanton rover]

Did you say Texas?

[mighty mantle]

Yeah I think umiri

[wanton rover]

Texas

[mighty mantle]

Please don’t do texas

[wanton rover]

But...lightsabers

[hidden axle]

Tis arknights not star wars unfortunately (that outfit has cool idle anination in base)

[hexed zodiac]

Umiri graceberer or rock rock are your targets for that lvl 80 ticket but you only have umiri rn

Matsukiri and canta are fine as they are

[mighty mantle]

If you’re unsure whether umiri is good just try mine, borrowing to test isn’t a shame but a good thing

[wanton rover]

How about Uika/Ptil? After I e2 them

[young cairn]

Uika module really sucks no? So it's a waste to level her a lot

[hexed zodiac]

Damage above everything else remember so still umiri

[wanton rover]

S1?

[mighty mantle]

Uika is fine if you’re using her, bard need stats

[mighty mantle]

I like s1+saki s1 more but you can try both

[young cairn]

It's an option if you somehow don't roll enough attack speed but roll the stacking atk on skill relic for IS

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah that gimmick is fun just don’t like it locks you out of sakiko S3 especially when you have a lot of band members that S3 will be up a lot so it’s a waste

[wanton rover]

I just had a very short and funny run
Let's just say I'm not used to ops with zero block

[young cairn]

But yea generally you'd just wanna use skk s3 umiri s2 if possible

[hexed zodiac]

Well that’s why we are switching out your tequila for silverash eventually

[young cairn]

Cos skk s3 is just that good

[wanton rover]

I'm actually super happy to put another bandmate on the team

[mighty mantle]

I mean s1 umiri is still viable when using sakiko s3 as a zero cost fever activate ppl, and you don’t lose out on the skill cycle of other band members

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah having three band members with sakiko creates great synergy, you’ll eventually in the long run replace all the 5s with meta 6s but for the foreseeable future they will be on your main squad for a while

[wanton rover]

How about Nyamu?

[hexed zodiac]

Just don’t use the one bad band member who starts with a n (can’t remember)

[mighty mantle]

She’s not great in strength

[wanton rover]

Ah

[hexed zodiac]

That’s who I was talking about lol

[young cairn]

Nyamu is only there for her unconditional 3 fever/sec, which doesn't require e2

And apparently her e2 talent buff is really weak or smth

So she doesn't gain much

[mighty mantle]

You typed too slow

[wanton rover]

I mean, she is just the drummer, bands don't even need one

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah she’s the worst out of the bunch and usually not worth brining on the team over other starter ops

[young cairn]

As someone who likes music composition I'm cursing you to hell for that statement

[mighty mantle]

When people do mujikaknights records they optimize nyamu out of the team 90% of the time
(if not higher)

[wanton rover]

(I'm a bass player so drummers are usually my best friends )

[hexed zodiac]

Bro doesn’t realize how much impact a drummer makes in a band 😭 actually it can be argued singers aren’t that important bc there are plenty of songs without one 🥀

[mighty mantle]

Er it’s going off topic let’s stop here

[wanton rover]

I think I can see my squad now
And the next step of it with Surtr and SAsh

Might take a while to make all the progress but at least I know the steps

[young cairn]

I like the flat 3fever/sec but there's just not enough slots and nyamu doesn't really do anything but exist there on the field

[wanton rover]

And ofc e2 80 Texas meanwhile

[mighty mantle]

You didn’t level your office at least right, cause that literally does nothing (rr at least give you third slot and texas)

[wanton rover]

With Nyamu on one side and Ethan on the other I believe enemies will not move ever again

[young cairn]

If she's tanky enough to block stuff I'd argue nyamu might have a spot in the team but these stats are not ok

[wanton rover]

3313. Voluntary choice for my peace of mind. Having that incomplete mission forever on my menu would drive me insane

[mighty mantle]

Alright that’s fine

@hexed zodiac bro just let go lmao

[wanton rover]

Oooohhh damn, your Umiri is pretty fun to use

Ok, zero regrets, she is amazing

[young cairn]

I never use nyamu anymore unless i specifically need an extra body to block with fever immortality

[mighty mantle]

That one of mine is umiri dear friend

[young cairn]

Otherwise there's usually not enough slots in the squad

[wanton rover]

Where can I take my new Ethan for a ride to see him shine?

[young cairn]

IS6

[mighty mantle]

SSS

[wanton rover]

SSS is such a mess that anyone can shine there, love it

[mighty mantle]

Cause SSS is basically mob rush

[wanton rover]

Oh, I know!! The invasions on RA

[young cairn]

He's also useful for difficult stages where you have to delay an elite or a pack of mobs so they don't crash into your blocker at the same time

[wanton rover]

Oh wait, I need mod for that

[mighty mantle]

Who are we talking about rn just to be sure

[young cairn]

You don't need the mod, his bind talent is where his main use comes from (and s1 specifically for hitcount enemies, otherwise s2 for consistency)

[hexed zodiac]

Ethan doesn’t need mod for most of IS6 bc you’ll be using his S1. And even at the end you can keep using his S1 if you don’t know how his kit works with S2 or when to properly use it

[wanton rover]

When do the side mission tickets renew? His mod needs TW-3

[mighty mantle]

I thought we aren’t talking about Ethan 🥹

[wanton rover]

A passive 20% aoe slow is just....amazing

[mighty mantle]

…Today?

[hexed zodiac]

Umiri will have 80% slow but no bind while Ethan will have bind

[young cairn]

It's useful for sure but don't you have other mods to build first?

[wanton rover]

He is already lvl 70 due to the voucher and I have a LOT of the necessary mats for his mod

And it's "only" 20k lmd

[hexed zodiac]

happy Ethan noises

[wanton rover]

Oh, would he be considered dot?

One of my aims here is to make a dot team at some point, if possible

[young cairn]

With s1 he has a dot, yes, although it's generally minor damage that's useful for hitcount enemies only

[hidden axle]

Only dot that deals damage that matters is virtuosa iirc

[wanton rover]

Is Blue Poison reasonable after full build?

[young cairn]

Not for the dot

Blue poison saw use cos her stats are above average for 5*

And cos her poison is good vs hitcount enemies but ethan can also do that and he can hit all the targets at once

[hidden axle]

Are you sure about this part

[young cairn]

For the time it is above average

Nowadays idk anymore

[wanton rover]

This is starting to look good now

[hexed zodiac]

Don’t need dot burn on ascalon if she just kills everything flat out

[wanton rover]

Surtr and SAsh eventually joining

[hidden axle]

I was using her in her time and uh she wasn't killing anything more than regular drones for me

[hexed zodiac]

Yep for Texas

[young cairn]

Don't forget her competition as a 5* marksman was platinum

[fierce narwhal]

I will forever think Ethan’s E2 art looks Horrendously out of place when by other ops

[hexed zodiac]

Don’t use umiri until at least E1 and definitely not while you use Ethan….well I guess if E1 it’s fine just eventually she will replace Ethan remember

[wanton rover]

Yup, duly noted
1 - e2 and ticket 80 Umiri
2 - mod Ethan
3 - put Cuora and Click on lvl 40
4 - Slowly build Surtr and SAsh and substitute Texas and Cuora for them

Makes sense?

[mighty mantle]

Sounds good to me

[wanton rover]

[hidden axle]

Mujica fan not buying skin doesn't make sense to me

[young cairn]

Number 3 is not a maybe, you should do it since you don't have a good tanky defender

[hexed zodiac]

So you’ll keep cuora bc you’ll replace Ethan with umiri, so you’ll have an extra slot for surtr and Texas gets replace by silverash

[young cairn]

Having a solid block3 that can tank big hits will make your life so much easier trust

[wanton rover]

For now I'm still using Tequila instead of one of the two, that's my plan

[young cairn]

I should mod3 tequila after I'm done with my prio list

He's such an mvp for my account

[hexed zodiac]

Honestly based, newbies especially just ditch him bc they don’t know how to use zero block @wanton rover right?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Mod1 fine for him tbh, but yea whynot

[wanton rover]

He is too lazy to come to battle with his weapon already sharpened

[young cairn]

The only 1 thing i wish he had was taunt but that's cos I'm lazy sometimes

[young cairn]

I really like that he's block 0 ngl, it helps spread aggro between ranged and melee enemies

I could slap him in front of a blocker and he's gonna bait ranged hits for example

So the blocker doesn't melt

[vernal valley]

Just because it's a skin doesn't mean they like it more

[wanton rover]

My new gameplay will be "why block if I can slow, bind and kill everything?"

[hexed zodiac]

That last part especially is the reason why pure brick walls are generally bad in this game. Why block an enemy if you can kill him before you need to

[craggy heron]

pretty much the reason why ppl say you dont need a lane holder anymore, at least in general gameplay

[young cairn]

It's also cos there are enemies you just can't block no matter what cos they do sheer amounts of damage

[wanton rover]

Tbh I was recently running cms and dropping Ho2hi on enemy spawn. It's just easier this way

Ptilopsis' skill aura speeds up Tequila, right?

[hexed zodiac]

Hoshi2 and surtr will hold them for a bit or if it’s slow enough Mudrock blocks 9999999999 damage periodically 🥀

[hexed zodiac]

You mean sp regen trait? Yeah works on every op but I think they need to be within her skill range

[young cairn]

Well that's the point, you kinda need to cheat the system to block those

[young cairn]

Idt it speeds up this tho

[glass monolith]

Within range is only for mod2+ Ptilo and SP gain from upgraded module is not big enough to care

[hexed zodiac]

Yeah just check

[glass monolith]

It doesn't actually - you will get skill up before you get all ATK build up

[wanton rover]

Oh, ye....hmmm

[young cairn]

Yea so you don't wanna accelerate his sp, you want the cycle to sync up with his trait

[wanton rover]

I'm going to test this rn

[elder flume]

its only good if your Teq is SL1

[brisk surge]

sp regen 💀

[wanton rover]

Tequila reaches max Atk way sooner the the skill activation so it's pretty fine

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 ptilo probably sl4+, but just sL7 him atleast

[wanton rover]

I mean, I'm already using Ptilopsis anyway so it's just a bonus

[elder flume]

pretty sure SL4 already breaks him with Ptilo

tho the answer is just wait 40s

instead of charged

[scarlet fulcrum]

E1 ptilo still 1.1 no?

[young cairn]

How? Tequila skill is 20sp cost auto charge so it's 20s + another 20s for overcharge

I guess it's cos your tequila has low SL

[elder flume]

oh

ye E1 Ptilo can SL4

[scarlet fulcrum]

True indeed, but SL7 for dmg improve eventually 👀

[glass monolith]

for dmg improve enetually use Mlynar

[young cairn]

Mlynar isn't coming back any time soon

Now I'm sad

[glass monolith]

Trust in offbanner

[scarlet fulcrum]

Moar dmg

[young cairn]

I don't even care about the damage

I just want the base skill and the taunt

[elder flume]

consider Yu S1

[young cairn]

Isn't yu limited

[brisk surge]

smiley base skill is so whatever vas

[young cairn]

It extends proviso lv2tp lifetime to 3 shifts

[brisk surge]

non fiametta haver 🚬

[young cairn]

Which means you can fiametta her+tequila+shamare

[sonic willow]

Where fiametta 🚬

[brisk surge]

you can already fia rotate without needing mlynar

war

[young cairn]

Not if you only want to swap once per 12 hr shift

Lv2 tp survives 32 hrs

So it'll desync eventually or you run the cursed proviso/tequila thing

[brisk surge]

people that runs exodia uses fia on proviso, teq, shamare
theres no need and no room for smiley

[scarlet fulcrum]

🍿

[brisk surge]

vas?

[young cairn]

Uh you do need mlynar for it if you run lv2 tp proviso

[brisk surge]

okay so you just dont know what you are saying

[wanton rover]

Bcs my skills are not on high level yet so my Tequila needs a lot and Ptilo only provided a little

[brisk surge]

no point arguing

[young cairn]

Shamare tequila bibeak/kafka on lv3 tp, proviso+1 on lv2, mlynar on cc for 2 out of 3 shifts

[young cairn]

You haven't given any arguments except just say I'm wrong

I've said 32hr lifetime on lv2 tp being the reason

You haven't given me any reason to believe what you're saying except just trust me bro

Very helpful

[brisk surge]

32 lifetime means nothing when both tps are 100% up time

[young cairn]

It means proviso needs 4 extra hours to work before fiametta can recover for the 3rd shift

Which you do with mlynar/chongyue on cc

[brisk surge]

im not here to convince you to change anything nor to give criticism
im just here to see what you have to say and clearly its not worth my time

[young cairn]

Bruh you started the argument

Why is it my problem now?

You inserted yourself in the convo

If you have nothing to add, just go away

[wanton rover]

@hexed zodiac @fierce narwhal took the new team for a ride on some story cms and I'm loving it. Thanks for all the insights! Really appreciate it

[young cairn]

You're not helping, you're not giving info, you only say " you're wrong and I'm right" while giving 0 reasoning and 0 info

[fierce narwhal]

You’re welcome!

[wanton rover]

(Ethan and Umiri were wild cards for me but damn, I'm loving them now)

[hexed zodiac]

Maxxers can be harsh but has more knowledge in this game then the vast majority on here just fyi

[young cairn]

I don't care if they have more knowledge, they said nothing except "you're wrong, I'm right"

Didn't even bother to give a correction

0 help to people

[wanton rover]

It's kinda funny bcs my biggest problem on RA right now is the invasion where enemies ignore block. Not anymore 🔥

[young cairn]

If they're gonna waltz in and say someone is wrong, could've atleast given the info

But no they did nothing of the sort

If anything it only serves to cause conflict

Idgaf if they're the einstein of AK, they're not helping

They're just coming on people and being a dick

[hexed zodiac]

I just skimmed the convo but it was about exodia? That requires a very specific base layout that’s different from normal and I believe lvl 3 tps that’s why maxxers said you don’t know what you were talking about with lvl 2 provi

It’s been so long since I looked at exodia tho

[young cairn]

Yea meanwhile I'm talking about 252 with lv2 tp using teq shamare bibeak and proviso +1 on the 2nd tp

Which requires mlynar/chongyue

[hexed zodiac]

Idk man I just got here 🥀

[young cairn]

But nah bro just says I'm wrong

Honestly maxxer can go choke on water for all i care

I don't care if they're smart or knowledgeable

I'm here for help and they're the least helpful human I've ever seen

[hexed zodiac]

It’s alr man just take a breather this game and discord isn’t going anywhere

[young cairn]

Dw man I'm good

I just don't like not just being patronised but also not even being given good info

If they're gonna just do one, idgaf

If they're gonna do both, wtf are they even doing here?

Just to mess with newbies?

[full sluice]

my game crashed at this end of this 200/200 mission (2nd attempt) and I was about to cry but it still counted the win, thank god

[wanton rover]

(If I ever talked bad about 0 Block ops it wasn't me, it was my young cousin)

[hasty minnow]

The classic excuse

[thick sphinx]

Lmao

[thick sphinx]

Lmfaooo

So close to pain

[vocal leaf]

wait to meet ascalon or mizuki mod in IS

[lyric elbow]

bruh the challenge mode is geating my ass why is it harder now, its just the range increase

[hidden axle]

EX-8?

[lyric elbow]

yeah

[hidden axle]

Global range can mess with your early setup

[lyric elbow]

im just getting unlucky with the ammount of shields he spawns

[hidden axle]

Since yk it's global and can target ops that eere otherwise safe in normal mode

[plucky flint]

just manage your deployments for targeting

[lyric elbow]

I mean, could I improve my team ?

https://krooster.com/u/blanky

[lyric elbow]

Oh I misclicked and put beans talk, it was supposed to be Myrtle

[mighty mantle]

Replace Myrtle for cantible, nyamu for saria, perfumer for indigo, courier for nymph

[lyric elbow]

they are lvl 1 in Krooster becouse they are lvl 1 on my account ....

[mighty mantle]

…You should raise cantible and saria to e1 at least, and get your sakiko module to level 2 please

[hexed zodiac]

Bean stalk we got a gamer

[mighty mantle]

The ones I listed for replacement are ones you shouldn’t be using

[hidden axle]

No it was a misentry

[lyric elbow]

She is nice in IS

[mighty mantle]

Sorry but read below #strategy message

[hidden axle]

.

[hexed zodiac]

Yep lol

Thought we were witnessing newbie big brain moment

[lyric elbow]

I will when ill get the funds

the new tech with the crab revive

lol

[mighty mantle]

Even if you don’t take my other advice, still prioritize sakiko module, cause you have no dps in your team

[slender yoke]

Hey gang what kind of unit layout did people find worked best for H10-1? It's a Manfred fight, top & bot lane put pressure on pretty fast. I've definitely got the ops to handle the stage I'm just not thinking right, been having fun playing with the new bandgirls and forgotten how I was handling stuff before lol
Krooster here also
https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/christor5

[hexed zodiac]

Place ops right infront of red box and go to sleep

I forgot what the stage does I’ll take a look brb

[slender yoke]

it's an artillery stage, stage didn't like my 'hoshi2 and go to bed' trick at all ><

[hexed zodiac]

S2 should work with hoshi2 pretty well if you want to use her as an artillery magnet

https://youtu.be/dPZLAJIv8Ew?si=lDCgZwYmt6ze_rno

[slender yoke]

I forgot S2 can get her out of the red for medics, so good!
I'll keep on & resign to vids if it doesn't pan out, cheers 🌟

[viral ridge]

current progression timeline is e2 sash > mod2 saki > mod2 sash, but before that is there anything that's higher priority
https://www.krooster.com/u/banji

[hasty minnow]

which vanguards are you running. Surfer and myrtle? or surfer solo?

[viral ridge]

surfer myrtle, depending on how quickly the second lane gets filled up

[somber falcon]

Just raise your often used ops' skill to sl7
Otherwise it's fine

[hasty minnow]

lvl up myrtle to 7. If you use myrtle often I would go for her mastery too. Shes a 4* so cheap to upgrade. Surfer as well.

[viral ridge]

noted, i'll do those after everything else then

[young cairn]

Personally I'd advise against myrtle masteries, it's not a big upgrade and you're probably struggling for every bit of mats

[simple tapir]

Is this a good team!? Is there any characters I can get for free that can improve it?

[viral ridge]

yeah the current timeline is gonna take a while, so i'll probably be able to either get more comfortable with my playstyle before needing myrtle masteries

[young cairn]

Also SL7 the units you use

[vocal leaf]

lava and her archetype is garbage but i guess she’s good for early game, just get tequila from dossoles event

[simple tapir]

What does tequila do?

[vocal leaf]

it’s a good dps

[simple tapir]

I already have a lot of ground dps tho 😭

Who would I even replace

[limpid ore]

mountain and specter arent dps

same class ≠ same role

[vocal leaf]

he’s a wave/boss killer, mountain and specter are lane holders

[young cairn]

Ok so to explain tequila, he's basically a dps on-skill and a lure off-skill. He's block 0 and doesn't attack when his skill is off but turns into a swinging machine when his skill is on

[fringe solstice]

he's a good burst dps which is good for elites and boss and his base skill is good

[vocal leaf]

lava or hibiscus

[simple tapir]

But usually only one person can hit the enemies tho in most maps

[vocal leaf]

dont you get to pick ptilopsis later? or did you pick specter with that ticket?

[simple tapir]

Does tequila have a lot of range to hit the enemies while being behind my lane holders?

[simple tapir]

Uh I picked specter with the 5 star selecter they gave me when I first started

[young cairn]

Well ideally you want tequila in front of your blocker, allowing him to absorb ranged hits while letting the blocker handle the melees

[fringe solstice]

he has 0 block so usually you stick him in front of land holders

[simple tapir]

Oh damn mb I thought since he was a dps he would only have the one tile range

[fringe solstice]

well the thing in this game is that dps can have 1 tile or large range

[simple tapir]

Oh so I'm supposed to put dps like surtr and pluma and tequila in front of my lane holders like mountain and specter?

[limpid ore]

he becomes 3 block on skill

[simple tapir]

Oh that's hella good then

[young cairn]

Specifically tequila

[somber falcon]

there's no one hard rule on placing
you place ops wherever needed

[fringe solstice]

It's a good place to start until you get the hang of it

[vocal leaf]

and he has very high stats, 4k hp, he’s usually able to tank with a healer

[young cairn]

Also it's cos tequila has damage reflect off-skill so you actually want him to get hit by ranged

[simple tapir]

Ok imma try and get him and replace lava with him, I'm kinda lacking on heals on hard stages so I don't wanna take out hibiscus

[fierce narwhal]

Note, he is like this because he is a liberator guard

Subclass matters most times out of ten when it comes to what a unit is good at

Yeah, rangers kill drones

But marksmen focus drones while Besiegers go for heaviest

Deadeyes are lowest defense and Spreadshooters are more to crowd control

[simple tapir]

I'm struggling with those tanky drones a lot in story rn is there any other free character I can get to help me with them?

Not story mb I mean the ones in the stage for kroos2 upgrade materials

[viral ridge]

you mean the ones that give other drones defense?

use arts

rule of thumb is usually if physical doesn't work just use arts

and vice versa

[hexed zodiac]

Which stage is that

[viral ridge]

i'm assuming the chip stage

[limpid ore]

i havent farm sniper-caster chip stage in long while

[simple tapir]

PR - B - 1

[hexed zodiac]

Oh

What’s your krooster?

[simple tapir]

Wdym?

[simple tapir]

This my team here

[limpid ore]

krooster account

[hexed zodiac]

Uhhh that’s stage isn’t available until Monday

Different time zone maybe?

[limpid ore]

he's newbie

all stages open for period of time

[hexed zodiac]

Oh are they all open

[simple tapir]

Actually I think my mistake was not putting the ranged units in the middle I put them at the end with my lane holders

[hexed zodiac]

Gotcha

[hexed zodiac]

Well lmk how it goes

[simple tapir]

Will do

[fringe solstice]

Basically, a website to link your account instead of a bunch of screenshots. It is in the pins

[simple tapir]

Actually should I even e2 my kroos2? Or save my resources for tequila

[simple tapir]

Ohhhh ok

I will make an account

[hexed zodiac]

No kroos and kroosalt functions just fine E1

[simple tapir]

Mb I meant e1

Cuz it's expensive right

[hexed zodiac]

Then yes E1 definitely

[simple tapir]

Ok so kroos2 first and then tequila?

[hexed zodiac]

It’s expensive at first but you’re just starting out it’ll all come with time

Yes all of them E1 is fine no need for E2

[simple tapir]

Let's hope, I deadahh gave an arm and a leg to e1 mountain 💔

[hexed zodiac]

Try not to invest and use Projekt red she’s Garbo and very expensive

[simple tapir]

Yeah I wish I took silence over her 😔

[hexed zodiac]

But you got ptilo right? All good

[simple tapir]

Are they a healer too?

[hexed zodiac]

Wait where’s pitlo

Yep

[simple tapir]

I don't have them yet but I get the selecter for them soon I think

[hexed zodiac]

Ok sounds good

[simple tapir]

Just got tequila 😃

I'm a bit confused tho how come it says he has 2 block but then in the description it says he doesn't attack and has 0 block when skill is inactive

So is he just there to charge up his atk and then I pop his skill when there's a tanky enemy?

[errant herald]

I'm at school

But ij

Uhh

Sakiko died xd

How should I do this

[fringe solstice]

he has 0 block off skill and 2 block on skill

[next wigeon]

Go do your Education

[fringe solstice]

you want stuff closer to blue boxes

[next wigeon]

Use more medics

[errant herald]

Guh

Kill

[thick sphinx]

No shit it's harder

[errant herald]

Kill

Kill

[elder flume]

get more dp before removing vg

[thick sphinx]

The boss has global range now

U need to actively bait

Or get fucked by then nukes

[elder flume]

let Wis handle 1 lane

[foggy grove]

doesn't wis just solo

[elder flume]

real

just need someone to hit tower

oh wow its 10 deploy limit map

[thick sphinx]

I did this by just putting all my guards infront of the boxes and healers like haruka on the then, then wis on the right side rande tile next to the guards andin healer range

[thick sphinx]

He could fast redeply

I used lezi, so he could use tequilla

[elder flume]

not with 8 dp

[thick sphinx]

Rt, I had ines

[errant herald]

I don't have haruka :(

Sad

I'm go kill

[elder flume]

when did dp scarcity start being a trend anyway

feels like every time i look at someone doing anni they just die with no dp to deploy

[thick sphinx]

I said healer like haruka, i don't have hoshiguma alter thi, still a bit stingy

[fickle heron]

my problem with anni 3(the one I am currently trying to welfare and low end clear atm) is after the initial wave of 350 the extra crushers overwhelm my lack of aconsistant arts dmg

[errant herald]

:(

Sry

I won't do any anni

[elder flume]

nah its fine

its just theres a lot of people removing vg now

[thick sphinx]

Idt he means what u think he means

[thick sphinx]

.

[thick sphinx]

Just add in a flag bearer or sm. Do u hv myrtle? If not just add in fang and vanilla

The mobs arnt too powerful in the start

[elder flume]

i usually remove mine at 250+ kills after getting like an extra 200 dp as failsafe

[thick sphinx]

So retreat vanilla and replaceher

[thick sphinx]

I just leave ines down and see if I can reach 999 dp, it's a like a mini game

[elder flume]

Teq full charge can kill 1-3 before they move iirc
else its Raidian / Shalem ?

[errant herald]

Vg?

What vg

What is that

[elder flume]

vanguards

[errant herald]

Ah

My vanguard died :3

[elder flume]

at 200 kills ?

[errant herald]

320

When the saxophone came

Or whatever those who produce aoe waves shit

[simple tapir]

Ah ok so does that mean he's kinda situational? Cuz for me in the early game not all stages have that many hard enemies

Also I e1'ed both kroos2 and tequila!

Who else can I get for free to improve my team?

[elder flume]

Shouldnt you have an extra 150 dp with 2 vanguards then ?

[crisp bolt]

have you not been using ines s2?

[elder flume]

Supposed to switch tuning too maybe if they kill you too fast

[errant herald]

I'm dumb at dp

I had to constantly change my ops cause of placements

Well that's that

[elder flume]

Be sure to force close and save sanity

[fringe solstice]

No, it's how liberator guards work. His damage is pretty good for a 5 star.

[elder flume]

You either accomodate that playstyle with more vg or frd or have to force close when you leak as you try

[simple tapir]

Does he do good against enemies your meant to use casters on? The ones with high defense

Cuz those are the guys that be making me sweat sometimes

[lofty sundial]

Physical dmg got countered by high defense , so we use arts dmg

[fringe solstice]

idk I haven't done damage calcs in a while

[lofty sundial]

He'll need help when we face those tanky guy

[simple tapir]

Damn I thought if the physical damage was high enough you can beat the high defense enemies

[lofty sundial]

Yes you can but idk the calc for that

[fringe solstice]

napkin math is 256x3 which is 768 but that is without max trust

[young cairn]

You can, the way physical damage is counted is basically just damage - defense

[simple tapir]

Oh and arts damage ignores that defense?

[young cairn]

Arts damage doesn't interact with defense, instead it interacts with resistance

[vital arrow]

arts damage is affected by res

pretty sure chapter 0 tutorial covers this

[young cairn]

And arts damage is calculated differently than physical damage, since resistance is not just a flat reduction of damage per hit

[simple tapir]

I'm a bit slow so I didn't understand much 😔

All ik is that if they look scary i throw arts damage at them

[young cairn]

Some enemies have higher res than they have defense

[vital arrow]

normalize reading enemy info if you fail a stage

[young cairn]

So your arts damage will tickle them

[vital arrow]

you can have a general idea on how to handle enemies

if you read their info

[simple tapir]

Yeah I should prob start doing that

[fringe solstice]

This is against 1k def enemies. He hits 918 with max trust.

[simple tapir]

oh damn thats pretty good

oooo and if i put lane holders around him and behind him i will be overpowered mwhahhah

them reunion soldiers dont know whats aboutta hit them

also is it possible for me to enable those damage numbers when you hit the enemies or nah? it would be pretty helpful

[elder flume]

now mod him

scarlet numbers have a requirement such as

1. damage must be 1.5x of supposed normal damage
2. damage must be done through atk scale

[wicked minnow]

you cant enable or disable them. it depends on the damage calculations as to whether or not the red numbers show up

[simple tapir]

ohhh ok

[fringe solstice]

I'm not really a 5-star user. Why does mlynar hit air but tequila doesn't

[wicked minnow]

because yes

[simple tapir]

what boss is genuinely gonna survive him 😭

[wicked minnow]

they like to ignore archetype weaknesses on 6* units

[hidden axle]

6 star things

[simple tapir]

now i just need myrtle and i will truly be unstoppable hehehe

[hidden axle]

Who fed this guy myrtle propaganda

[steel prairie]

idk
I mean Mrytle is good

until you leaked with her

[simple tapir]

isnt she rlly good? people on yt were saying shes still rlly good into the end game content

[hidden axle]

Yt

[steel prairie]

thats if you dont leak

[hidden axle]

Look she isn't bad but not some omnipotent being that makes you unstoppable once you get her

[elder flume]

its more like because shes easily obtainable
AKO hates her due to flags losing block when she wants to print dp and her talent wants more vanguards deployed and her stats arent great

[simple tapir]

cant i place her and then place mountain infront of her?

[hidden axle]

Also you are a newbie you are 100 years too early to think about endgame content

[elder flume]

after Wanqing is available high chance people will just rec him

until Matsukiri appears

[fringe solstice]

I thought it was agent vg powercreep flags

[steel prairie]

I mean ehhhhhh

thats if you get enough dp to deploy both of them
how much does Mountain cost ???

[hidden axle]

11

[elder flume]

and now youve used 2 ops that does 1 op job

[simple tapir]

11 for me

[steel prairie]

meh ?
I feel like Agents have the same weakness as Chargers but just to a lessor extent really
you sacrifice stopping power for fast deploy time

[elder flume]

the only easily obtained agent is
the S word
and doesnt end with urfer
and shes
bad bad

[wicked minnow]

vulpisfoglia~~/vigil~~ do exactly that but cost 1 deployment slot :shusmug:

[elder flume]

actually Puzzle would be miles better hm

[crisp bolt]

Snegurochka

[simple tapir]

yeah ik but myrtle is f2p and is rlly good so im tryna get her

[steel prairie]

just make sure you dont leak with her

[simple tapir]

is myrtle the best free dp regen character you can get?

[steel prairie]

wait is Surfer worse than Cantillble ?

[maiden hound]

wanqing's coming in a few months

[wicked minnow]

snegurochka the 4* agent on CN rn is straight ass

[elder flume]

roughly the same
just frontloaded dp vs aspd

[lofty stag]

Time to prepare wanqing propaganda

[steel prairie]

oh that
I havent heard much from leaks recently

[simple tapir]

hes gonna be f2p!?

[lofty stag]

He’s a welfare

[steel prairie]

wait isnt Wanqing from the Shu event ???

or Im mistaken him for someone else ?

[maiden hound]

that's the one

[lofty stag]

So basically much more guaranteed than Myrtle

And better obv

[steel prairie]

oh it is

wait we having Shu rerun AGAIN ?

[simple tapir]

yayyy

[wicked minnow]

it's based on CN gameplay. basically no one likes her gameplay. she is nice looking tho so that can save her

[lofty stag]

But we do gotta wait a bit

[crisp bolt]

record restoration...

[elder flume]

i read Sneg kit and i have no idea how it gets a pass other than Eun propaganda

[steel prairie]

I thought the next event is rebuilding mandate

where does it say Shu rerun ?

[crisp bolt]

she was so close

[maiden hound]

refer to lepinsky's comment

[crisp bolt]

is she had a passive skill for dp gen

[lofty stag]

I wonder who that is

[steel prairie]

oh

[crisp bolt]

:clueless:

[fringe solstice]

cantillble s2 is ammo so it doesn't waste skill like surfer s2, although surfer s1 fits with her talent better so I think it is close to equal if you have a tanky enemies for surfer to attack

[hidden axle]

"wanqing's coming in a few months"

[steel prairie]

lowkey literally feels like Shu rerun was yesterday

or that Endfield fuked me up and I keep mistaken Fangxi as Shu expy lmao

[foggy grove]

surfer s2 is not real

[glass monolith]

Bro broke and living in CN and Global timelines at same time

[buoyant imp]

Does shamare’s curse doll work on the last steam knight during the missile attack?

[glass monolith]

Honestly don't know. It is "there", at ground and stuff, flight is just fancy animation. I usually just have cluster of operators to spread damage from 3x3

[sterile delta]

i might be wrong but i dont think so

[elder flume]

The duration is too short to even take effect

[sterile delta]

he becomes invulnerable, shamare doll doesnt work on most invulnerable enemies iirc

[elder flume]

He gets iframe for a few frames before take off too iirc ye

Tho he loses it during max flight

Cant remember if bugged SK was killable

I assume it was since Ambriel was used

[tawny leaf]

When is sash 2 expected to be released

[vital arrow]

check last year's first celebration banner

thats your ballpark

[verbal harness]

lowkey wanna try new ops on cw s 4, any cool videos to refer to

[elder flume]

Usually its just E0 or solo showcase that comes back tackling old stages

[verbal harness]

hm

[main halo]

So which skill you guys think is go to M3 for Mulsyse

[hidden axle]

Isn't it dependent on you having dorothy/penance

[scarlet fulcrum]

S3 only

[main halo]

Me?

I got Penance

[hidden axle]

Yes you

Tbf I forgot what her skills even do except haging dorothy and penance is great for her

[main halo]

I don't have Dorothy

[elder flume]

Not needed

[main halo]

But yeah I got the other one

[elder flume]

Extra stats are nice but thats it

[scarlet fulcrum]

It doesn't matter, u only want bind from her s3

[elder flume]

Some even use Therm so the summons get 50 res

[scarlet fulcrum]

So atk spd would nice prio here (+range too)

[idle bloom]

What's a good 3rd defender, annihilation saltfin

Following kyo low end

[scarlet fulcrum]

Spot and cuora more than Enough

Saltfin has 0 def and res (2k atk or smt), just kill them with krooster

[idle bloom]

Guide says bring 2 normal and 1 medic defender

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cuora brick
Spot is healing

And u don't need 2 brick

Whats ur roster looks like

[idle bloom]

Updating krooster just a sec

https://www.krooster.com/u/frosty

[young cairn]

Idr exactly but remind me, is kyo's low end the one where he blocks to make enemies drown in the middle and has humus+pinecone top right?

[idle bloom]

Yes

I'm using s1 Chetto instead because pinecone isn't raised

[young cairn]

Yea the 2nd brick is basically just to block 3 so the top right don't leak too much during big waves iirc

If I'm thinking of the correct guide

Basically just for the block to give humus and pinecone time to kill

[elder flume]

huh does Chetto sub Pinecone

[idle bloom]

No i leak a bit more so I have to catch bottom left with matsu

It's fine overall

I always die at the 370s

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah thats kinda overkill, basically its simply just use sakiko in this position #strategy message , thats S2 L7 50 trust. Eyjaberry on kroos position facing up, krooster on hibis tile, hoshit e0 to cuora, perfurmer to ptilo, bring gravel for bait. Thats it. Very chill

Krooster will have fest there

Redeploy spot around 300 thats it

[idle bloom]

Who's that on the ranged tile below saki

[scarlet fulcrum]

In summary most of them die to sand except saltfin

Hibiscus

Place krooster there, or wherever u comfy

[idle bloom]

Aight i will try this setup

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dont forget the gravel

[idle bloom]

Can I project red instead

[scarlet fulcrum]

Surtr good panic button too

[scarlet fulcrum]

It will wasted dp probably, drum guy

[elder flume]

Red is better to cancel captain or bridge but without invis reveal i think Red falls short ?
and you prob wouldnt need to cancel either

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea reveal first

[idle bloom]

I'll raise gravel

[scarlet fulcrum]

Gravel also good base worker so whynot bro

35% gold

[elder flume]

ril

[idle bloom]

E1 gravel it is

[scarlet fulcrum]

S2 her main skill ye

[young cairn]

Gravel goated

[plucky flint]

gravel best bait

[elder flume]

Astgenne2 pull is kina unique

its mini Mint with main link as the Mint

so in certain situation you get toilet effect

[limpid ore]

flush

[elder flume]

she wants M3 for target count but the extra main target up on M1 could be annoying

can be as bad as Eben

[tender orbit]

-# eben mentioned

[elder flume]

wiki says pull radius 1.0 but seems wrong ?

its 1.5 atleast no ?

[limpid ore]

well, enemies hitbox are bigger sometime

[glass monolith]

Perception of distance because angle of map

[elder flume]

thats so not 1 rad

@wicked minnow do you have Lee / Ange / Hool on CN

if do please try Astgenne2 pull bottom CE5 defender

so bottom as main target

hopefully your Astgenne2 isnt S2M1+

[wicked minnow]

oh she is

😅

[astral cosmos]

wait what event was astgenne2 on again, salter?

[elder flume]

ye

[wicked minnow]

i got astgenne2 s2m3

what are you trying to test exactly?

[elder flume]

alternative would be to Kafka middle defender

pull radius

if top defender gets pulled then it should be 2rad

[wicked minnow]

puppiiz says it's radius 2 already

[elder flume]

oh

fml

i saw PRTS saying 1 rad

[wicked minnow]

oh prts says it's 1?

[elder flume]

and they wrote slow as stun

for talent 1

[wicked minnow]

ig no one bothered to correct it 😭

ill screw around with astgenne2 a bit but i remember not having many problems with its radius

[elder flume]

i feel like i would have trouble with M1

prob will just keep her at SL7 for testing

[wicked minnow]

ill probably be testing her pulling 1 target so it shouldnt make a difference i think

[elder flume]

if the pull misses main target then they attempt to pull again

but high chance pull collision timer ends when they try to re pull so they just go through main

[wicked minnow]

is the damage detatched from the pull radius?

if not then ye

2 radius seems to be it

s2m3

[maiden hound]

anyways hows ju

[wicked minnow]

idk if that changes anything specifically but it does allow her to test like this

ju is just alright

nothing special but ill probably be using him

he fills a role i actually do need more of

not skybox tier but like still decent

[maiden hound]

mm

[wicked minnow]

he's decent basically

but just not welfare meta defining

[elder flume]

ye 2 rad

and damage > shift

[azure roost]

pro cn spai

[wicked minnow]

CN account just to test welfares

me like welfares much

[nocturne cove]

who are your top 5

except tequila krooster

[wicked minnow]

Raidian Sanktamiksa Astgenne2 Crownslayer and either Skybox or Umiri

[glass monolith]

Astgenne1 Crownslayer

[wicked minnow]

tequilla would've been in the top 5 if you didnt add the exception but ye

[elder flume]

is Kroos2 even top 5

she feels sucky

[wicked minnow]

nop

not even close

she's very hit or miss

and she gets a good amount of points from being good scaling in IS

[full terrace]

I should start using rain style of referring to an alter

Kroos2

Now that we got Chen3

[elder flume]

it takes a bit to get used to

[wicked minnow]

i do it for specific units

[elder flume]

especially when people refer to SA2 as Salter and forgetting Silence2

[full terrace]

I usually just call them by their name, if people got confused they havent played the game enough to be able to relate 😏

[wicked minnow]

chen3 is the way that makes the most sense to refer to her with

[nocturne cove]

hmm

[next wigeon]

Salter is confusing because it can mean Swire2, Silence2 or SA2

[glass monolith]

Specter2's skeleton at bottom

[nocturne cove]

ast must be good then

[young cairn]

Is valarqin just not it as a unit?

[elder flume]

ye Astgenne2 is good

[wicked minnow]

rain agrees :ya:

[elder flume]

the arts support / dps that welfare couldve asked for

[next wigeon]

That's Spalter

[next wigeon]

Also heya Arf 👋

[nocturne cove]

she is alright at procing necro with s2 but thats it the cycle isnt great either

[wicked minnow]

i would've loved astgenne2 as the perfect arts dps before raidian

[full terrace]

Yo Astrel havent seen you in awhile

[wicked minnow]

raidian is too good

but astgenne2 is still fire

[full terrace]

Lemme know if there is any news about LotM okay

[next wigeon]

The animated stuff? Sure

[elder flume]

why does that remind me of Vox Machina

[full terrace]

I'm just casually checking this channel once in awhile now

[young cairn]

Well i guess it's a case of whether you really need the necro if you don't have virtuosa or smth

[wicked minnow]

valarqvin is decent. she's just not particularly amazing is all. 12k high quality damage is pretty good but it's just that there's easier and faster ways to get that

when it comes to 5*s she's actually on the better end

it's just that 6*s are just way better

[nocturne cove]

you must glaze lumen or no?

[elder flume]

the problem is that she just does nothing off skill when her kit is pushing necrosis

[wicked minnow]

lumen is just a healer

he's a mighty fine healer

[nocturne cove]

well a pretty good afk at that

[wicked minnow]

nowadays?

[nocturne cove]

who do you use

rose salt?

[wicked minnow]

for healers i use both lumen and rose salt in most of my teams

if i drop one of them, i replace with silence2

is usually how it goes

i thought you meant like lumen in general

[nocturne cove]

i have been around enough to know him in general

🥹

[wicked minnow]

i assumed as much

[young cairn]

I'm interested in how ju will pan out as an sp battery

[wicked minnow]

he's still just a healer to me tho

[nocturne cove]

yea yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1273778682892390541.gif?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[wicked minnow]

+2 sp is pretty good

if it will be actually useful is a different case tho

[young cairn]

It's the same mechanic as saga yea?

[wicked minnow]

ye

[young cairn]

So it just comes down to whether he can actually kill stuff or not

The s2 looks p decent tho

[wicked minnow]

it is a decent skill ye

[simple tapir]

Im not able to beat SK - 3 is it not possible with this team?

[vocal leaf]

learn to use crow control, you should have orchid, also podenco or earthspirit

[hidden axle]

What is sk3 again carbon stage?

[foggy grove]

Being more arts

[vocal leaf]

check if you have casters like click, or indigo, you can get pudding through red cert shop, also ethan is there

[left egret]

https://www.krooster.com/u/patronus
whom to e2 first, surtr or silverash? skills are wip

[full terrace]

What is a Tegimon? Palmon's distant cousin? SilverAsh should be better overall performance early game, but I started my account with Surtr so I'm pretty biased toward her and her burst carry early game.

[mighty mantle]

Surtr, cause you barely have any arts in your team

[hidden axle]

Surtr at skill level 2

[mighty mantle]

Chill bro at least they already acknowledged it

[hidden axle]

Oh wait they did mb

[simple tapir]

Nah I don't have them 😔

[simple tapir]

It's the stage to get the materials to upgrade ur base buildings to level 2

I'm tryna upgrade my factories for more LMD

[hidden axle]

Yeah carbom stage

[simple tapir]

Do you have any tips to beat it?

All the tanky black enemies swarm my lane holders and eventually kill them and then I just lose

[hidden axle]

I am reinstalling my ak since gpg crashed so I cant test it out with ops your level

[simple tapir]

Oh ok

Should I even be doing that stage tho I'm level 12?

What level should I upgrade my factories at?

[hidden axle]

You should be doing it

Ideally 3 lvl 3 factory 2 lvl 2

[simple tapir]

Damn I think I'm just under leveled then

[hidden axle]

It takes time to get there dw

[simple tapir]

Imma try and go for some of the casters mentioned above and see how it goes

[hexed zodiac]

Player Levels don’t matter, how built your ops are and how strong your team comp is matters

Knowledge of game mechanics and stages also do a lot of heavy lifting

[simple tapir]

Oh ok

I checked my ops and I have orchid so I will try and use her and see how it goes

[hexed zodiac]

Orchid is one of the weaker ops, I personally wouldn’t use her unless you need her for something specific

If you want I can take a look at your roster again

[vocal leaf]

it’s for sk3

[hexed zodiac]

https://youtu.be/9WKUyI92fpc

They don’t use orchid but you might not have all those starter ops

[mystic hazel]

GO-EX-8 is so f** Ridiculous man what an ass stage

How can I beat it?

The steam knight kills everything I have

[sterile delta]

what are you dying to specifically

[buoyant imp]

i used support hoshiguma alter + a bunch of medics

still haven't gotten past challenge mode though

[mystic hazel]

This one when it reaches half hp it starts attacking allies with most defense or something or more hp I think it is but ultimately just attacks everyone and kills everyone

[buoyant imp]

get a high hp unit to pull aggro

[sterile delta]

it targets the unit with the highest max hp, use that to pull aggro

[buoyant imp]

on phase 2 that attack locks onto an aoe around the two highest hp units

if the aoes overlap you're cooked

[sterile delta]

or deploy everyone in a 3x3 to spread out the attacks

for phase 2 make sure you draw the second set of missiles away like neon said

[mystic hazel]

Also why I have this? why m3 is restricted when I have used support operators with M3 before

[sterile delta]

they have to be your friend

[mystic hazel]

AAAAAAAA

[buoyant imp]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/neonv01d
is the challenge mode doable with my current roster?
my strat for normal mode was having sakiko+krooster clear out the mercs together, then sakiko kills alistair, krooster takes care of the drones, and hoshi2 tanks the steam knight
but with the stat buffs sakiko dies to the mercs and krooster can't solo the drones anymore, so i'm out of ideas now

[elder flume]

Borrow Mlynar and do the same as normal ?

If they dont die to 1 Sakiko skill then just do 2

Worst case scenario Raidian baits everything

Use Steward to perma tremble knight

[mystic hazel]

How do i avoid for him to block me this squares?

[full sluice]

this has to be one of the worst stages of all time, the mobs come out 2 or 3 at a time wtf

[elder flume]

Lower gear box hp

Or just have 8 bodies surrounding it

[mystic hazel]

I cant actually control the gear box hp tho

[elder flume]

You can

Bottom enemies in particular are ranged

Can be used to make them attack box

[spark idol]

Do on-deploy buffs, like Justice Knight's 10 sec one, still go on after they die?

[elder flume]

No

Theres no attack range of a dead op anyway

[vocal leaf]

no, it’s your fault for not spawnkilling #strategy message

[mighty mantle]

That attack targets the thing that has the highest hp on the field, and as it launches the 8 surrounding tiles without operators on it will be locked permanently (won’t be lock if they died from the attack though)

[elder flume]

Time to get 8 robots

[simple tapir]

It's for the crowd control cuz the black tanky enemies swarm my lane holders and kill them rlly fast but with orchid I can try and slow them down

Also does orchid also slow down their attack speed or just their movement speed?

[scarlet fulcrum]

U are correct, but she doesn't need lv https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1419180057624182896/Screenrecorder-2025-09-21-11-30-59-571.mp4?ex=69a70dac&is=69a5bc2c&hm=91a431cfd0087b3bb25accf125996910013af5bda4474356a8c06ee4cecd357c&

[scarlet fulcrum]

And no

[simple tapir]

If someone actually beat the stage with only these units I must be hella bad at the game then 😭

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just usual trial and error, so u will get used to it

[hidden axle]

You are a newborn, it's normal to struggle

[mighty mantle]

Remove your sniper from your squad for this stage

[hexed zodiac]

Just movement

[hexed zodiac]

Use the video to see where to play a ranged op and where to place a tank etc then mimic it with your better ops for a smoother experience

[simple tapir]

My dumbahh was setting up my units on the sides I think that's where I went wrong

I think I should be able to beat it if I set up in the middle

Thanks guys

[hexed zodiac]

You can look up easy clear guide for most stages on YouTube and see how they tackle the stage

[wicked minnow]

@elder flume have you seen a glitch like this before?

my raidian died to the 2 cold spiders. i think as she died i tried to place a summon on the bottom left caster

idk what exactly caused this

[simple tapir]

That feels like cheating tho 😭

[tulip falcon]

I have so much trouble with Transport vessel hitting really hard. What the best way to take it down

[hasty minnow]

what units do you have

[simple tapir]

Thing was straight up one shotting my units 😭 I gave up on that event

[hasty minnow]

Borrow tragodia, place gravel down to tank the first shot than tragodia.

Tragodia will proc which will negate the next 3 shots enough for cat ability than put it on d6 to damage both drones.

You can add a defender to d6 with a suppet on d9 like ptiloposis and just spam teh cat on the drones.

Gummy will do fine for the defender.

[azure roost]

[elder flume]

This merely seems like pause deploying summoners no ?
Atleast in the sense of the clip im seeing ig

Since Raidian is alr redeployed at the start of clip

Which allows summons to be deployed at the same frame

[crisp bolt]

you started the recording too late :realmad:

it'd make more sense if we actually see the beginning part of it

[hasty minnow]

do yall think anybody actually listens to my strats or am I just rambling like a mad man 😭

[elder flume]

Did you try it btw

Since this is what i got from max Trag

Waited for enemies to die before dropping so Trag auto locks drone to hit 1x paralysis few frames before getting shot

Then die at 22 sp

[crisp bolt]

not sure why you would place tragodia in range of the thing when if you are borrowing an e2 tragodia you can just place him in the corner and let his cat kill the drones

[full sluice]

I might be stupid but can someone explain how the boss at the end works? It's exploded my team two runs in a row and I thought the white cloud would stop the pink spread but it seems to not work

[crisp bolt]

🥀

Dolly strikes again

basically you use the geyser and soda bottles to break his shield that gives him phys/arts DR and then nuke him

[full sluice]

oh so its not like a prevention thing I need to do, I just need to kill him before it fks me?

[crisp bolt]

the prevention is converting the pink clouds back

[full sluice]

and its like on a timer because u run out of the boxes?

[elder flume]

Do u run out

Idt ive ran out

[crisp bolt]

don't they give you quite a bit?

[elder flume]

Think its just infinite no unless i misremember

[crisp bolt]

no I believe there is a limited amount but it's quite a lot

[elder flume]

If u do then dps issue

[full sluice]

does it path back to the front or do i need to remove my team and redeploy in teh back?

[crisp bolt]

nevermind they don't have a count

think I'm mixing it with polyvision

[vocal leaf]

polyvision#1 when? the beta was not successful?

[elder flume]

https://map.ark-nights.com/map/camp_r_21

[crisp bolt]

such a great tool

it loops top right a couple times

[full sluice]

yeah both times my team just died off while it was doing that

[crisp bolt]

who are you using for the stage?

[full sluice]

my borrow? eyja medic

[crisp bolt]

[vocal leaf]

why would you need eyja?

[crisp bolt]

you don't need eyjalter

the elemental damage is pitiful on that stage

[full sluice]

oh is it?

I've never had a wandering medic so I just assume I need one when it says ele dmg

[crisp bolt]

sure they are the archetype for healing elemental damage but a lot of times you can just tank through it. It's better to borrow someone who will help delete dolly faster so you don't have to worry about the mechanics as much

[elder flume]

Only corrosion sucks really

[crisp bolt]

damatzi flashbacks

permanent def reduction is annoying (until redeploy)

[elder flume]

But thats just backup blocker check

The rest can be countered

Or just not care about

[crisp bolt]

now I'm curious. Can Tragodia s3 work on dolly?

[elder flume]

No?

Its unblockable

[crisp bolt]

thought he was just hovering

[elder flume]

And unblockable

[hasty minnow]

Sorry i misssed a step, the gravel is there after placing gummy. Yeah I tried it mb

[crisp bolt]

would've been really funny if he was. I never tried since we had options to do it

[elder flume]

Imbalance immune when weight 3 zzz

[crisp bolt]

but that's on me for reading wiki.gg info

[elder flume]

Shit design

[crisp bolt]

says in game but wiki.gg doesn't have the unblockable mentioned in it

[crisp bolt]

there's another boss that's like that

I can't remember now

[hallow brook]

getting stomped by the crocodile
how do i deal with her when she one shots my blocker to deal damage to her 😭

[somber falcon]

Use a good blocker

[earnest bobcat]

Defense stack harder?

Does she do physical? I feel like she does physical.

[vocal leaf]

she does, but the key is crowd control, ops like hoederer, zuo le, irene or gnosis marcille

[hallow brook]

unfortunately she two taps hoshi alter if i don't let her turn invincible

[maiden hound]

she can be stunned so use crownslayer

[hallow brook]

that stage is a bit pain in the ass cuz she shows up when those waves of mobs are dead

[hallow brook]

didn't built cs 😭

[fringe solstice]

stuns and freezes reset the attack stacks so you can survive. Also use the tools to help give extra sp and stuff

[hallow brook]

i'll see what my stun options are
i don't think i've invested a lot of ops that deal stuns

but i think kroosalt would be nice

despite the slight stun

[fringe solstice]

yeah there is the stun tool, had to look it up to double check

[hallow brook]

ooh sweet

my hq is level 5 too so thats good

[azure roost]

loop hero soon kekw

[plucky flint]

<@&586570970345635868>

[glass monolith]

FINALLY. DEAD WEEKS

I need to build so much shiet

[sterile delta]

any other ops who deal dot passively?

[vital arrow]

what does that mean

[sterile delta]

ops who deal posion, bleed, etc

[vital arrow]

thorns BP ethan entelechia aosta kichisei

pozy S2 for some reason

ifrit maybe?

nymph maybe counts but its tied to necrosis

[sterile delta]

aight gonna build kichisei next after I'm done with underflow

[vital arrow]

ascalon reedic S3 hoederer

[sterile delta]

edamage is too strong, it's not included even though it's technically dot dmg