strategy

[glass monolith]

30 practice plans

Also we like what, 2 months away from no sanity loss qol?

[gloomy vortex]

whats that

im lowkey lost

[glass monolith]

Practice button next to normal stage start button. 0 sanity cost. No reward no risk

To try out whatever stuff you want to win stage

Or record completion of already completed stage for discord/youtube idk

[gloomy vortex]

i see i see

[cyan plover]

It’s merely the utility side of it. It also has dps capabilities. Attacks 4 enemies at a time in rapid succession throughout the duration of the skill

[gloomy vortex]

would it be better to bring him or nightingale? cuz i dont have either so ill have the take someone elses

[cyan plover]

You can improvise nightingale replacement.

[full stream]

@snow bane dont u have trag? just lure the dolls into the camera range

[cyan plover]

You doung the talulah stage?

Depending on the skill mastery of the skill. If it’s M3 you activate logos skill every time you down talulah

As for the one spot that logos doesn’t cover you can use any op to tank it.

[gloomy vortex]

but wont slowing down just mean that it will still hit just later?

[cyan plover]

Disappears the projectiles if he survives

[gloomy vortex]

lacking on healers unfortunately 😭

ohhh

[cyan plover]

I believe nightingale is used to help tank the meteors. If you got logos you cover almost all the spots the civies are in. As for the missing spot you just drop any units to tank them on civis stead

[gloomy vortex]

will wisadels thingy tank aswell?

[cyan plover]

There’s a guide regarding Logos+Wis I believe. Look it up on yt.

[gloomy vortex]

i believe all of those are using nightingale

[narrow pendant]

Stealing my creation

[glass monolith]

On JT8-3 Skadi with moduled Gladdia just survives firewave

[cyan plover]

I have this run that you can see as an example. It’s a bad one since all the dps I have turn the stage obsolete. But pay attention to when talulah is down. #strategy message

[glass monolith]

You allowed to steal any of my images and gifs, you welcome

[cyan plover]

Oh yeah if u got blaze it could tank a good amount of hits due to its talent.

Theres plenty of means

[gloomy vortex]

OKAY WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS LOGOS SLOW LMFAO THAT LOOKS SO OP

[glass monolith]

Specters immortality skill, Amiya guard S1 sugarcoat, pile of medics (but I assume from his pervious messages he can't really bruteforce it with Ptilo s2 or something)

[cyan plover]

My fav is spalter’s s3 since I don’t have to redeploy and stuff.

[gloomy vortex]

could i also just place like 3 random tank-ish units and call it a day? </3

[cyan plover]

Yes.

If your roster allows it yeah.

[gloomy vortex]

aight thanks so much!

dps im not laking

its everything else-

[glass monolith]

Whatever cursed option you have. Just don't be me and Heavyrain S1 (Camo units leak fireballs)

[cyan plover]

All cool then.

[cyan plover]

Forgot that was her stuff lmao

[primal cove]

The enemies are not the same, so I can't really do it with this team configuration

[cyan plover]

Timing is important for logos though. If u activate it too early it will end early and hit logos, too late the projectiles lasts long enough to hit logos.

[gloomy vortex]

tysm! ill try it out

[glass monolith]

Just kill boss faster than last dudes spawn and die, abuse stop attacking defenders if you have some or something

[full terrace]

I never told you to copy the guide 1:1. You asked for a strategy, thats the strat. Setup a stall like that and handle the waves

[gloomy vortex]

did i actually just spot someone with komarin pfp what

[full terrace]

Also for this particular case, if the strat works on CM, it works on Normal

[glass monolith]

With elemental medic you don't care for not CM normal dude build up or can stall "directional shield" enemies on top

[primal cove]

Ok, this worked. Thank you

[gloomy vortex]

holy @cyan plover thank you so much for the help (didnt even know logos can do all of that)

[cyan plover]

Cheers

[glass monolith]

just kill boss
kills boss. It worked

[elder flume]

Soon Haruka will triumph against Logos strat

[gloomy vortex]

i want/need haruka so bad

[cyan plover]

Well all he needed was a way for his civies and ops to survive i assume.

[glass monolith]

If he copy arf guide his only issue should be "enemies to stall" building up stun to leak (or die to being paper or both)

[cyan plover]

Haruka’s skills are insane. Especially with her module.

[primal cove]

I was too focused on stalling the boss at the bottom, I instead let him advance to the top where I would put all of my fire power since it's were the stronger ennemies spawned.

[glass monolith]

Arf strategy abuses common gimmick with bosses who spawn stuff on phase 2. Killing them before all phase 1 stuff spawns don't advance spawns

[abstract rover]

Any instructions on grand bazaar?

[pearl compass]

Use AlterRoach.

[abstract rover]

Who's that?

[pearl compass]

Wisadel.

[supple nacelle]

Wis'adel

[pearl compass]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G5Wj_8VWsAA8akV.gif

[supple nacelle]

Jinx

[abstract rover]

Yeah I'm using her but getting killed at the last moment

[topaz tapir]

Fuck uh

Honestly uh how do I do this

[glass monolith]

Phantom 2 cats, or Ascalon or something else need to murder cages or cage dudes before you get baited by their taunt

[topaz tapir]

Maybe I replace someone for a cheap Sniper

[glass monolith]

Cages taunt, cages has 10 hit hp. Films taunt (i think? Perhaps drone priority) and have 6 hit hp

[abstract rover]

What do you think?

[abstract rover]

Taquila on top Exusiai on bottom Wisadel on mid

[signal vector]

Looks nice, would rather place wis where ptilop is facing downwards and exu standing right below wis facing downwards too, and then use tragodia for the cart thingies coming from the top left red box

[leaden sierra]

It's fine, she covers all 3 lanes from there.

[full terrace]

Instead of Tequila behind Ptilopsis, you'd want someone who can block (preferably Defender) one tile to the right of your current Tequila. That way the wagons will enter Wisadel's firing range and she'll just murder them

[abstract rover]

On it I failed

[full terrace]

Yeah my guess is that you let the wagons passed, and they spread crystal tiles everywhere

Especially the unicyclists area

You only need someone to block the wagons, that someone is inside Ptilopsis's healing range they'll be fine

And Wis would just destroy them all eventually

Your formation is already pretty good, only thing to watch out for is your skill timing

Thats an easy clear

Oh and make sure your Saria, and another Defender being your 2 last deployed operators

[abstract rover]

What about now?

[signal vector]

Looks good ye, just cycle wis and exu
Exu2 skill up when wis is down and vice versa

Should be able to take care the final wave that begins after 350

[leaden sierra]

Overkill, as all things should be. Hopefully, chestnut can keep Sanka alive (or was saria the one deployed last?)

[abstract rover]

Saira and coura

[full terrace]

Yeah that looks perfect

One more thing you need to pay attention to

Around 300+ kill

There will be a wave of drones

Dropping crystal tiles on the unicyclists area

You want to destroy those crystal tiles fast

[leaden sierra]

Great, if you have issues with Sankta (you probably won't), you can even exu shield him.

[full terrace]

Your Wis is optimally positioned for that too and she has high hit count

Just make sure she isnt too occupied with other stuff and you're golden

What I mean is that, she can target that purple circled tile, destroying the crystal floors and also hitting the unicyclists circling around

Just make sure she isnt occupied by the mummies on that green circled tile

[abstract rover]

Failed again

[full terrace]

At which part

[abstract rover]

Some mf come f
Dropped bomb from the sky and I died

[full terrace]

Thats what I was just telling you

[abstract rover]

At 370 maybe

[full terrace]

#strategy message

So basically when those drones come and drop those crystal tiles

You do a burst heal on Ptilopsis so that Saria and Cuora survive

Another thing you can do

Is to retreat Wis's Revenant Shadows

Two of them

And then activate her S3

She will summon 2 new Revenant Shadows

[abstract rover]

Ok

[full terrace]

And they will be the "last deployed"

Yeah so skill timing

Ptilopsis and Wisadel

Your formation is already overkilled like Lucas said

If you are having too much trouble you can also point your Exu to the unicyclists area

Facing right

[abstract rover]

Bruh

Sankta died

[signal vector]

Welp, tank problem or somethin Ig

[abstract rover]

He's only level 50

[signal vector]

Maybe get better stats and then comeback or keep trying till you got it

[full terrace]

You have a bit of issue with your healing output. Chestnut basically does nothing there and Ptilopsis is the only one healing everyone.

Too much pressure on her

You can bring extra Defenders in case he dies

Or

[abstract rover]

A yeah who should I replace him with?

[full terrace]

You make sure he is deployed last

Last, like last last

[abstract rover]

I meal healar

[full terrace]

And during that final wave where he leaked

Activate your Exu

She will give him the shields and he will survive

[full terrace]

Healer you can bring Susurro

Susurro and Silence are both good

[abstract rover]

I don't have the e1

[full terrace]

Then make good use of your Exu

Or like I said before, bring extra Defender

When he dies, just drop another one in his place

[abstract rover]

I think I should replace tragodia as well

Since I can't do much with the cat at the end

[full terrace]

Your cat cant trigger Nervous burst in one throw there?

[abstract rover]

He ain't maxed

E1 level 65

And skill maybe level 4 or 5

[full terrace]

I know he aint maxed, normal enemies only need 1k Elemental Injury to trigger the burst

[glass monolith]

Maxed is for bosses who have literally twice the bar to fill

[full terrace]

Yeah raise it to SL7 at least

[abstract rover]

Let's see

I think I should up sussaro and Sankta first

[full terrace]

Dont replace Tragodia, he is already pretty good there

You got to 394 thats basically a clear already

You just mistimed stuff

[abstract rover]

Not really

At the end

All my operators died

🙂

I wish I could bring 2 support unit

Then I'd place mudrock as well 🙂

Or maybe I'm just too dumb

[full terrace]

You just mistimed stuff, thats the fact. Wisadel dps alone is already enough for the final wave

[abstract rover]

Well

Saria died from wagon

Sankta died

And then boom everyone getting 2 shotted

[full terrace]

394 is already a clear 😒

Are you telling me a lineup that can get to 394 cant clear 400?

[abstract rover]

Yeah I'm too dumb ig

[full terrace]

Nah you are not

[abstract rover]

Hmm

[full terrace]

You came up with the formation and you got to 394 by yourself

You just mistimed stuff a little, thats pretty normal

[abstract rover]

I figured something out

[full terrace]

I'd say you are better than most newbies who asked in this channel 😏

[abstract rover]

What if I swap Sankta with spot

[glass monolith]

You better because that event reruns in few months

[full terrace]

Probably not, Spot's Defense is pretty low and the mummies hit hard

You can also

Swap Cuora with Sankta

Cuora's Defense is pretty high when she is onskill

[abstract rover]

I always forget to turn on skill

🙂

But the problem is Sankta isn't even elite 1

[full terrace]

He isnt?

[abstract rover]

Yes

[glass monolith]

why using e0s (if you have alternatives)?

[full terrace]

Then yes you can try using Spot

Anyways

[abstract rover]

I don't have much resource

[full terrace]

If you are really really having trouble with the unicyclists murdering you

I told you before, you can point your Exu right

And have her murder them instead

Here is the thing about unicyclists:

• They do Arts damage on your last deployed operator
• When they are on crystal tiles, they have increased attack range and they do 2 shots on your 2 last deployed operators

Thats basically damage x2

Your Wisadel is shooting them no?

[abstract rover]

Yes but she takes too long

[full terrace]

You can throw cat at them

To buy time for her

You have plenty of resources

[abstract rover]

Bruh cat at level 2

[glass monolith]

Big shield dude gain DEF/RES stacks when hit. Their entire purpose is screwing you over for interacting with mechanic to hit green tiles 10 times to remove them

[abstract rover]

Still nuking the enemy

Now that the event is over i can't even farm

[glass monolith]

Wait is event over?

[leaden sierra]

no

[abstract rover]

No

Today is the last

[glass monolith]

Then it is not over

[leaden sierra]

is it?

[abstract rover]

It says 1 day remaining

[glass monolith]

Game rounds down, 1 day is 1 day + time till next reset

[leaden sierra]

we got 2 more days then

[abstract rover]

?

[glass monolith]

42 hours, 1 day 18 hours, it rounds down so it display 1 day

[leaden sierra]

1 day and 18h to be specific

[abstract rover]

And maybe replace fang with courier

Or do I go with an agent type vanguard?

[leaden sierra]

don't

[abstract rover]

Fang dies too much

[leaden sierra]

yes? Depends?

[abstract rover]

Losing too much dp

In my last run i only I had around 10 more DP I could have won

I need a vanguard who can survive well

[glass monolith]

Usually vanguards are here to give DP to deploy something useful, not stay permamently, at least assuming there is not constant body rotation for some reason

[abstract rover]

I need ep in my entire time if I want to spam the cat

[full terrace]

Yeah cat needs constant DP flow

But idk about replacing Fang with Courier either

If you have Myrtle can use her

[abstract rover]

Myrthel dies faster then fang

And when I'm focused on other operators I end up forgetting to collect dp so something auto would be Great.

[crisp bolt]

Myrtle is the kind of op you just place in a corner and spam s1 for dp

[abstract rover]

That's the problem

When I'm focused on other thing I forgot about her

[glass monolith]

Place Fang in corner then!

[crisp bolt]

Then yeah an agent like ines/canta/surfer might do you better for dp gen

[abstract rover]

Suggest 1 from here

[glass monolith]

Aren't we still on topic of annihilation?

[crisp bolt]

Oh wait this is about anni?

Thought this was general stuff

[abstract rover]

Yes annihilation

[glass monolith]

394/400 grand bazaar i think, i'm here with soul, not mind

[crisp bolt]

Then I guess just place fang in the corner ya

[abstract rover]

Which corner?

No matter where I put him he dies

Even with 2 helar

Oh sorry I forgot

One of them is useless

[glass monolith]

Are you not spawnerasing unicycle birds?

[abstract rover]

Nah

[full stream]

Chestnut 🤯

[abstract rover]

Yes

Worst investments of my life

Any suggestions on who I should clear Lungman commercial district?

[full stream]

You could borrow logos and just oneshot the boss(rat king) with s3.

Spawns bot right

And don't underestimate the drones spawn from mercs

[abstract rover]

I have Exusiai and taquila for sniping boss

[full stream]

Yeah nah won't work he has a shield that can only be broken by arts and while it's up it's like 3k def

[abstract rover]

I need amiya heli drop fr

Idk when I can unlock that

[signal vector]

Yea he has that sand shield that gives him 3k def and it can only be broken by arts dmg

[glass monolith]

Well with modern units just murdering boss during shield is more or less possibility

[void terrace]

Hmmm

Is crownslayer worth building. I mean her s3 looks kinda fun

But you need full mod for it

[teal moon]

with new mod she has a niche, it doesn't make her good though

[modern plover]

unusable without s3m3 mody lvl 3

so really expensive

[hollow turtle]

what skills to use?

[glass monolith]

Usually whatever game already selected is good enough. Unless you used to different skill of unit and rather play around it

[hollow turtle]

so s1's are fine? huh okay

oh wait no there all not set to s1's

[glass monolith]

Totally not me using S3 Quibai on her "S2 showcase premade squad" stage because i couldn't figure timing

[hollow turtle]

lol

[mild citrus]

is anyone on CN server? i need help with 16-16
i know im under leveled but im too lazy to level everyone

I do also have a 6 star recruitment voucher.

[lofty stag]

Your medics are in a SORRY state

Holy

Wait

Nvm

Just replace breeze and Amiya

Haruka can solo

Also Exu mainly uses s2

You gotta level up that Trag and mlynar

[glass monolith]

What is 16-16 anyway? Cocaine Bear Rampage?

[golden merlin]

guy best op to cheese trail for dumb beside Wis

tn2

[somber falcon]

if you're looking to chase meta then just get the ones in the infographic on #help's pin

[fringe solstice]

You're fine. It's probably why no one answered you in help.

maybe some defenders for when you need them

[unkempt lintel]

hmmmm.... try lemuen

exu alt should also work outside tlk(im thinking if she would also manage tlk with enuf patience)

[queen axle]

don't use them

just use either free squad or flame

[fringe solstice]

the orientation squad forces you to use them.

or at least pick them

[queen axle]

mizook s1 highmore s1 uhh lumen is like

i forgot

[pearl breach]

Stage 2??
You can try this.
Wis ela for wave 1.
Ela exu for wave 2.
All in for wave 3.
Trag only there to pull highmore slightly towards the bottom so exu wont suffer from the aspd debuff.

[wicked minnow]

lumen is s3 99% of the time

[pearl breach]

Could try his s3. Since I haven't tried it.

[somber falcon]

can also kick ely and get a texalt borrow

[wicked minnow]

texalt in this day and age

holy

[pearl breach]

[wicked minnow]

🧓

[somber falcon]

if it works, it works

[median prawn]

need a good setup for this stage

[maiden hound]

thats ex8 right

[median prawn]

ye

[wise minnow]

How do i prevent funny hand take the mimic thing and drag it without smth to block it

I mean dragging into another position

[pearl compass]

You mean 12-20 miniboss?

[wise minnow]

Im talking about 15-20

[somber falcon]

you don't

[pearl compass]

Sorry. Misspelled.

You cannot. But you can drop it early after dealing some damage.

About 40% of his MaxHP or more.

[dapper hedge]

Just burst it ASAP when it revive

[mild citrus]

ty ty
i will be very honest i have no idea how im getting by and even beat other bosses myself

[wise minnow]

I saw someone use skyranger to block it tho

[somber falcon]

blocking isn't preventing it

[wise minnow]

fair

[mild citrus]

question. i have a 6 star voucher, should i get logos, monst3r, ulpianus, or ines, or someone else. i have degenbrecher, mlynar, goldenglow, narantuya, and ascalon already.

[narrow pendant]

Logos

[leaden sierra]

Pretty sure you can just use this setup, but replace dusk with Hoshi2 and Beeswax with thorns. Even better, you can just put HarukaS2 somewhere behind, and just never remove Logos, because I have a feeling she can outheal lappy damage on logos.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1kGmQYkEUm/

L: Logos
H: Haruka
Ho: Hoshi2
Th: Thorns

[median prawn]

thanks i will try

[leaden sierra]

also, don't forget to use the slow effect on the carnival machine.

[median prawn]

oke

[lime lantern]

does Exu s3 work with tragodia cat

[dapper hedge]

Cat isnt operator

[pseudo notch]

how can i defeat the troupe mouthpiece on TN-3? his doll is so tanky

[foggy grove]

global slop+yu or yato s3 spam or trag's cat spam

[pearl compass]

They're squishy enough actually to brbrbrbr with YatoAlter.

[mild citrus]

very unfortunately the cat doesnt work with exu s3. i have tried just a bit ago

as i only got and built tragodia a couple hours ago trying to beat 16-16

[foggy grove]

redeploying cat with exu is schizo tech

[lime lantern]

trust

[glass monolith]

From creators of Exu into S3 Crownslayer

[vocal leaf]

is exu2 now the best nuke for sentinel?

[pearl compass]

One of them.

[vocal leaf]

s2?

[pearl compass]

Also say Degen, Eblana maybe.

[pearl compass]

Yes.

[vocal leaf]

how is eblana even considered a nuke operator?

[narrow pendant]

Degen so old

Lemuen now

[pearl compass]

Oh yeah, Lemon

[narrow pendant]

Eblana has 0 right to exust in IS lol

[pearl compass]

S3 instant damage

But no RES ignore lol

In theory you could buff her actually.

[narrow pendant]

The dmg sucks bro

[pearl compass]

🥹

[vocal leaf]

i’ve seen some cracked stall strats with her s2 tho i mean in other IS contexts

[narrow pendant]

[vocal leaf]

fredi, i got p4 tragodia
i wish i could go for max pot, but i need to save for leizi

and it seems i will need to build blazealt

the only operator i for sure won’t have for ccb4 is lapp

[foggy grove]

what is lapp used for

[vocal leaf]

global burn damage with fear i guess

i doubt gg can replace her

[lapis hornet]

fake male player spotted

[queen axle]

holy cheeto comp

[austere skiff]

https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/des any tips for 7-9?

[pearl compass]

Mountain

[austere skiff]

ah

so borrow mountain

alr

[pearl compass]

Yeah

[austere skiff]

s1 s2 or s3?

[pearl compass]

S2 ofc

You just put at middle lane where dogs are and press it once

Nobody shall pass him

On left you just put whatever

And it should do the trick

And you have enough time to close right side too.

And hold.

And kill Geralts on middle by using Snipers or Casters.

[austere skiff]

alr

[foggy grove]

you can use corne for left

opening with your sa is fine

[austere skiff]

jesus christ mountain's s2 is insane

[austere skiff]

i beat it w/ a borrowed mountain

[foggy grove]

ye point is you can clear with what you have now

[austere skiff]

alr

[austere skiff]

wouldnt coirne uh

get obliterated

instantly

[foggy grove]

sa s2 is budget mountain

[pearl compass]

Yeah

Hard counter for 7-9.

[frosty void]

Need a bit of help here since i kept getting overwhelmed by the infantries

[pearl compass]

Basically Popukar, but 6☆, cheaper and self-heal.

[frosty void]

Ofc here the squad

[pearl compass]

Lemuen S2 or any True/Elemental damage ops to try kill the boss outside of your bluebox.

[frosty void]

I mean yea boss is easy enough but the infantries is giving me a headache

[pearl compass]

It's least of the problem

[foggy grove]

which one is the infantry,the bomber?

[pearl compass]

Unless you beat the boss in some locations where is your main DPS, so they dodges and leak.

Are you sure infantry is your main problem?

Cause your squad is overkill for everything.

[nocturne cove]

on par actually

[jovial nest]

are there any other maps with holes that can be played with 0 sanity other than 9-3?

unfortunately, I can't do Robin's module requirements there due to bad hole placement as a shift mine user

[elder flume]

Ig u can try 9-11

[jovial nest]

lemme check

wait

ehhh

i mean it'll work for Cliffheart

but it won't work for other shifters and count like they put them in the holes

[elder flume]

Just stun them when theyre past

They drop

[jovial nest]

I mentioned Robin

[elder flume]

Hit mine

[jovial nest]

hmmm

difficult but lets see

gotcha

[elder flume]

That is how Robin works ye

[jovial nest]

just need a stun that doesn't kill them

[elder flume]

Good shifter but practically hard to shift properly

Even Cliff S2 when theyre not above the hole should be fine

Eureka

[jovial nest]

now lets see if they can survive

Cliffy S2 does true dmg

[elder flume]

Surely they survive 4k damage + 3x auto

[jovial nest]

.....they die after 2 autos

tch

are there any stunners that don't do much damage?

[elder flume]

Blitz

Eureka

[jovial nest]

Eureka can only do that once

before she's redep for a long ass time

[nocturne cove]

ela s2

no damage

[jovial nest]

they're hovering....

[nocturne cove]

nvm

[jovial nest]

does levitate drop hovering?

[nocturne cove]

idk

[jovial nest]

ok I'm doing....

Krooster RNG

while looking away from hole

[somber falcon]

can't you do it on anni 2?

[jovial nest]

hmmmm

push holes before 25 kills?

wait no

[elder flume]

My usual low damage stunners are Marcille Eureka Blitz

[jovial nest]

quitting out doesn't record anything

it has to be a "clear"

and an anni "clear" means san used

[foggy grove]

quitting is a clear

[jovial nest]

lemme check blitz

[foggy grove]

for anni

[somber falcon]

that's only on 100+ kill tho

should still count even below that

[nocturne cove]

what are we doing all this for tho?

[elder flume]

Robin module

[jovial nest]

robin module

[nocturne cove]

oh

[jovial nest]

ok 4 times per deployment

and blitz is a fucking E0 lvl 1

this will do

ok....how heavy are those hovering guys once they drop

the mines barely did anything

I want to stick to SL7 as much as i can

ok Weight 2....

I'm gonna do Anni 2 then

[somber falcon]

good news: it counts on full sanity return
bad news: the enemy just fucking dies

[jovial nest]

that weak huh

....if thats the case, only 1 option left

I'm doing it in Guard/Spec chip farm

first....time to do it in practice

see if they "survive"

shit....

it doesn't work for her there too

the placements are awful

hmmmmm

[foggy grove]

good news it doesn't have to be robin that make them falls

[somber falcon]

wait what

[jovial nest]

wat?

don't tell me...

[somber falcon]

lmao

[jovial nest]

it just needs enemies to fall into a pit

with robin in the field

[somber falcon]

go try it then
mine is still e1

[jovial nest]

i'm even putting a mine somewhere just so it registers some...."stuff"

Weedy s1m3, Gladiia S1M3 time to shine once again

[foggy grove]

crazy but yes

it doesn't say it has to be her tbf

[jovial nest]

fucking hell....Gladiia S1M3's damage is too much

time to get a weaker hook

[nocturne cove]

rope

[dapper hedge]

Isnt this for robin module

[foggy grove]

enforcer does no dmg at all

[jovial nest]

9-3 does better with a pull

[nocturne cove]

bro aint using any force

[foggy grove]

can do it on anni 2

[jovial nest]

fuckin hell.....

ok I'm going to Enforcer on 9-11

even Rope's killing the Dublinn mobs in 9-3

wait....

I'm just doing cliff.....wait do they survive long enough

[elder flume]

all this for 0 sanity

[jovial nest]

i already burn so many sanity for module 2nd requirement (yes I'm doing every operator's requirements)

thank god Enforcer's strong af push has no damage attached to it

ok jesus christ that's stupid

it fuckign works

[foggy grove]

feater also has this same wording and it works the same

[jovial nest]

when shifters do too much damage

the only con of ch9 story operations is i can't auto it

siesta you can auto

[elder flume]

its why levels over E2 1 are bad for shifting

[jovial nest]

welll

the point is they're raised to cater to....actual hard content

Just recently I shifted IS3 D18 Izumik to the hole

satisfying af

[glass monolith]

Agents need module to reduce their damage during skill into burst when skill ends/retreat, change my mind

[high gust]

Anyone I should upgrade or any guard operators I should go roll for?

I realized I needed to get one after I have to borrow someone’s penance just to finish this stage 😭

[somber falcon]

well you're sorely lacking tanks, so go raise them

[full terrace]

Why Penance tho

[high gust]

she doesn't get instantly squished by the mannequins

[glass monolith]

If it works it works. When it doesn't, idk Contail go

[pearl compass]

Mudrock S3

[nocturne cove]

cuora is fine

[nocturne cove]

ulpianus leizi hoshialt

[full terrace]

Plenty other Defenders dont get instantly squishes by the mannequin either

Even Cardigan survived that

[nocturne cove]

with enough healing

yes

[foggy grove]

his trag cheese that map

[glass monolith]

Or be me and use clownslayer S3 to stack them together and get everyone else oneshot... Wait it is bad

[full terrace]

And yea Trag should just trivialize that

Penance borrow is wild 😂

I'm not judging tho

[pure orchid]

i am

wtf penance borrow

[full terrace]

Qyurii 😂

[nocturne cove]

ok buddy

[pure orchid]

mb i cant sleep so i went here

[pearl compass]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-penance-cry-crying-bag-gif-8564893899986539824

XD

[nocturne cove]

looks cute

[glass monolith]

what was way of life stage code

[full terrace]

Path of Life?

BP

[somber falcon]

pl ig

[full terrace]

Bath of Pife

[pure orchid]

Bulipera pavis

[full terrace]

It's Beacon Pathway according to wiki

PL was used for Preluding Lights already

[austere skiff]

alright so uh

any tips for 7-13?

[glass monolith]

Art for that skin is amazing too, her lying on stairs which looks like xmas tree due angle Must skin for S2 enjoyers

[pure orchid]

stinky carnelian

[austere skiff]

the main problem i have is the claw sarkaz i forgot their name

[pearl compass]

Sarkaz Mercenary

[pure orchid]

what no lol

[pearl compass]

I call him Shredder

[glass monolith]

Bonus question - who remembers? I'm sure that description already pinpoint them enough

[austere skiff]

the ones that get buffed by originium pillars

[glass monolith]

Wait, is 7-13 one where you have like 20 roadblocks?

[austere skiff]

12

[somber falcon]

pretty sure you just tank and/or kill normally

[pearl compass]

Didn't it's 7-12?

[glass monolith]

aw man

[pure orchid]

ok place the roadblocks well and kill them :tericinema:

[austere skiff]

[pure orchid]

i love roadblock stage

little to no room for brainrot

[glass monolith]

Ok back to guy want 7-13

[glass monolith]

And then there is Lapp Alter roadblock stage

[pure orchid]

CM was so fucked bro

[pearl compass]

Ez

[pure orchid]

got me playing cc

suzuran mostima ascalon

and random bullshit

i wanna see that clear again

[glass monolith]

I cooked 3 lane strat #strategy message Hold shit on top and bottom while fuze in middle, hold stuff in top and middle when fuze at bottom

[austere skiff]

wait

shit

not 7-13

7-12

[glass monolith]

ICANT

[austere skiff]

the one with a billion roadblocks

[pearl compass]

Fu

[austere skiff]

💔

[pure orchid]

hell no bro 😭

[pearl compass]

Watch a guide

[full terrace]

Just place roadblocks, that stage is 0 op-able

[glass monolith]

Roadblock so everything forced to go around top part, murder

[pearl compass]

Should clear with 0 ops

[austere skiff]

damn

[pure orchid]

i just place roadblock once and pray

[austere skiff]

alr

[glass monolith]

And with smart roadblocking you can bleed tile everything, don't do that smart shit, just kill

[pure orchid]

no placing mid run

[glass monolith]

I started game so long ago that 7-12 wasn't 0 op but 1 op because nobody figured or bothered to figure 0 op timing

Oh man tomorrow i will be reliving traumatic experience of boss linking to drone who has priority targeting against ranged units

[slow ferry]

is nervous impairment going to stop lucian from blowing everything up in a circle around him

idk what im supposed to do about a trillion dodge and him bypassing block

[glass monolith]

It is just 40% dodge... Lemuen S2 his ass

[somber falcon]

surely he won't dodge all shots

[glass monolith]

Lemon S2 is dodge ignore

[somber falcon]

surely there won't be other elites getting into her range

[slow ferry]

wait her s2 ignores dodge

i need to stop listening to people tell me x skill is bad for y reason

also im using exu2 so there is someone else letting her stack up the wanted status

[full terrace]

Block and shoot

That AoE explosion will kill everyone in IS2 d15, TfN is so so much easier there

[glass monolith]

Well yea 40% don't work while bro is blocked But he blinks again in 15 seconds

[pearl compass]

Oops, secretly useful skill is right there (we already have nukes by Wis S3)

[slow ferry]

i got told "s2 is dogshit s3 is always better" and thought it applied to almost all cases with bosses since i havent had the chance to dive into her kit since tmt left

i cleared it with s3 anyways but it wouldve been nice to know

[vocal leaf]

that sounds like something someone in #help would say

[glass monolith]

(Laugh in being S2 shiller)

[full terrace]

You'd prefer S3 anyway, S3 is so much faster to recharge and compact

S2 would take so so much time to spend all the bullets

[slow ferry]

true

[full terrace]

By the time you spent all the bullets

S3 would recharged itself already

I used S3 to nuke Lucian in d15 IS2

Tried both, still found S3 better

[glass monolith]

well IS has infinite amount of attack speed relics for +SP on attack module

[slow ferry]

speaking of the current event is IS effrcts right

[signal vector]

Eh I use s2 most of the time though, probably cause it's semi afk

[glass monolith]

No you can't IS moduleable otherwise game would be good and it is not

[full terrace]

Those are IS bosses yea but their stats are lowered for the casual players

[slow ferry]

wait so they gave the trial phantom his is mod without the ability for it to trigger

[somber falcon]

what

[slow ferry]

am i wrong dont is modules only work in is

[full terrace]

IS Modules dont work in TfN, dont use their IS Modules

[glass monolith]

Pervious TfN gave us snipers with default unequipped modules

[foggy grove]

he has all 3 module with default to y

[slow ferry]

maybe im crazy and they didnt default him to the is module

[full terrace]

No

[vocal leaf]

same for mizuki, they just give you the op fully built, doesn’t mean it will work

[glass monolith]

My english skills are french, but i tried to said IS modules don't work in TfN, so you asking why they didn't default modules which don't work?

[slow ferry]

no i thought they did default to a module that wouldnt activate

[austere skiff]

ok damn that

0 op 7-12 strat was

kinda easy

i messed it up at the end and had to place lem and sash to clutch

but eh whatever its done now

[nocturne cove]

can trag cat kill mouthpiece pupper in 1 cycle?

[glass monolith]

I killed them with Yu S3 combo for burn proc by cats instead

[smoky halo]

wtf yu s3

[vocal leaf]

how do you do that? most of time i see tragodia winning over yu

[glass monolith]

I didn't max mancat yet

[vocal leaf]

oh i see, i have both lv90

[full terrace]

Cat just proc the burn if you put it on the other side of the firewall

Burn does more damage, I like it so much using the cat to proc it

Only thing I dont like is the lack of Paralysis

Also Lv90 has nothing to do it, I used a Lv90 Tragodia with the Lv90 NPC Yu

As long as Tragodia himself is behind the firewall, and the cat is on the other side of the firewall

Cat does Arts damage, so after luring it'd just proc the Burn right away

https://youtu.be/lsBjcqZtMIg

This was super fun to record I'm not gonna lie 😂

For the Orientation/Spectacular/Ultimate bits I mean

[lofty stag]

Half an hour is crazy 🥹

[full terrace]

33 mins for 4 stages

My TN-3 was 34 mins for 3 stages 😒

TN-3 Low-End is pretty tricky to pull off

Newbies gonna struggle

[nocturne cove]

why do i find videos likke this good to put in background/picture in picture while working

[full terrace]

Oh yea me and my friends used to do that too

Back in other game, but I'm doing it that much anymore lately

[nocturne cove]

i just watched half of the video while doing my assignment

lol

[leaden sierra]

What is this tryhard madness? Amazing tragodia S2 showcase btw.

[full terrace]

Yeah Tragodia cat spam is broken

Stall is dps after all

Stalling forever and you get a CC gameplay 😂

[sleek solar]

Is it very important to have 1 x 3 star from each archetype if you are new to the game and want to try IS? Or is it good enough to pick like 3 to 4?

[full terrace]

Not 1 from each archetype, but rather which units will perform well, for example, you have Kroos and Adnachiel in the Marksman archetype but only Kroos performs well, so you take Kroos.

[sleek solar]

So far I have Ansel, Kroos, and Spot E1 level 40. Level 7 skill. But I don't use them much in story mode anymore. Last boss if ch 8 hurts...

[spice mortar]

3 stars under the hands of expert players are able to clear most content

You can follow their guides if you want to clear a certain stage

So investing in them is never a mistake, theyre really cheap too

For is, off the top of my head, popukar, spot, kroos, fang and maybe some others im forgetting

[haughty flower]

*3 stars once you add in dobermann

[sleek solar]

Been trying to learn on my own in stories... just for personal challenge. But I've been using guide for like AD-8EX. Don't have enough characters levels up for it 😞

My Thorn dies to like the dinosaur robot...

But in videos he tanks it...

[haughty flower]

Sometimes you'll hit a wall as a newbie and that's perfectly ok. Levels, skills and talents make a pretty big difference.

[sleek solar]

Got it. Still having ton of fun. Thank you all. This discord is best place for guides

I'll spread some resources to my 3 stars since I liked my first IS run

[spice mortar]

Dont worry completing all is will take more than a hundred hours

[signal vector]

Cause you need him to be elite 2
When he's elite 2 he regen HP if he's idling

[ebon flume]

please help me how do i do iw 9 😭

the low end squad youtube tutorials have things i don't have

[signal vector]

You dont, do somethin else and comeback when ur stronger

[fringe solstice]

I think it can be solo'd by wisadel. But you need e2 op first

[wicked minnow]

barely and you need to be decent at the game to do it 😇

[ebon flume]

why is the battle randomly ending?

[ebon flume]

damn

[queen axle]

just yato alt it

[lofty stag]

I believe all stationary bosses have a time limit

[haughty flower]

Did you know you you can silence the time limit for 1 particular boss

[ebon flume]

idk what that is 😭

[haughty flower]

Yato alter, or Kirin R Yato

[vocal leaf]

npc yu is max pot, my pot1 yu can’t do it

[foggy grove]

i mean npc yu has buff

[vocal leaf]

yeah it’s actually that

i tried a pot3 yu and still doesn’t work

you need to further buff yu’s atk to beat tragodia

[wicked minnow]

does removing trag mod work?

[vocal leaf]

yes, if modless, yu win even on pot4 trag

but somehow pot1 yu can’t proc burn in one cycle

[smoky blaze]

18:15 this thing is so weird lol. proccing two different ele at the same time

[vocal leaf]

that’s why he’s losing, he needs mod i guess

[void terrace]

Is grace bearer s2 worth it for tragodia teams?

I mean for a 5 star it does decent damage and converting that to element damage given tragodias nutty uptime sounds decent

[vital vessel]

yea

would rather do another better dps than gracebearer but sure

[graceful fog]

heyyy uh any way to improve placement? this is moments b4 either mylnar dies to tragodia/cameraman or the mannequin at bottom leaks

[surreal star]

are you not using m3’s reconstruct?

[graceful fog]

shd i be?

[surreal star]

you should always be using it

[graceful fog]

i have her at E2 Lv1 ya

ahhh ic

where do i place the construct?

[surreal star]

next to mlynar should be ok

it loses hp over time so you should place it where you want the heal chain to start

[surreal star]

or replace myrtle to place it down

[graceful fog]

oh ya after myrtle skill is done i place exu alter on the right to deal with the dinos

[surreal star]

if you can get someone to shoot the tapes down it would also take a lot of healing pressure off

[wet isle]

Also, what level is Chestnut's skill? Ideally you want to NOT let the nervous impairment trigger cuz Tragodia does a lot more BS then and in an AOE so other ops like Mon3tr get hurt in the process even if Mlynar is the one tanking

[graceful fog]

uh lemme die real quick

[wicked minnow]

i highly doubt chestnut is gonna be at all useful

[graceful fog]

ill check his skill

[full stream]

i think we literally just need to borrow eyjaalt instead and kcik ansel/chestnut for actually useful units

[wet isle]

He was fine for me tho I paired him with Yu, his skill at level 7 is a decent burst, quick recovery and 2 stacks

[surreal star]

agreed
a normal medic would probably be better

[wet isle]

Other wandering medics are definitely all better but he was all I had and it was sufficient with Yu's recovery.

[wicked minnow]

yeah but yu has elemental recovery built in to his kit

[graceful fog]

okayyy nvm i somehow managed to survive for now

[wicked minnow]

he doesnt need as much help to keep up

[surreal star]

ok nice

[graceful fog]

uhh what now

the very few times i managed to get to wave 2 i die to top left ranged cameraman

[wet isle]

He could recover mostly of the plebs but Tragodia does too much and it needed chestnut. His 4th hit big attack nearly instantly triggers nervous impairment on my Yu, that's what I saved my chestnut skill for

[wicked minnow]

just saying that elemental healer wasnt particularly the most useful thing. mlynar removes most nervous impairment pressure and kills the boss

and elmental healer needs some investment to keep up with such a stage

[wicked minnow]

the way i did the stage was hold bottom with mlynar and exu2 and burst to boss asap

idk if that would work for you but ye

should be fine i believe

[graceful fog]

at this point do dinos still spawn?

if not then like u, ill redeploy exu alter at bottom to burst boss ya

[wicked minnow]

dinos still spawn i believe

[pearl compass]

Second phase nobody in top right redbox.

[wet isle]

not in cm

[pearl compass]

Completely safe.

[wicked minnow]

oh

i was wondering what CM did

[wet isle]

I just checked

CM is just different enemies

[pearl compass]

Different enemy roster.

Aka

Changed all Microphone Dude into Prop Holders.

[graceful fog]

damn ok yea nvm wave 2 top left mobs are too strong

cant hold the lane

[wicked minnow]

oh that makes the stage easier

[graceful fog]

since chestnut isnt as useful which medics shd i bring along?

[pearl compass]

Monsta and maybe Ansel.

[graceful fog]

or do i borrow ayja and find a mylnar replacement

[pearl compass]

It's also an option.

[wicked minnow]

mlynar is very nice

maybe but i found him really good for this stage

[graceful fog]

mylnar seems too important ya

[full stream]

eyjaalt also ignores whatever tragodia does and free up two slots u can use mon3tr s3 to dps the boss instead

[wicked minnow]

that is an option

[graceful fog]

dont really have much dmg options tho

this is basically all my dmg dealers

[full stream]

the only really dps demanding enemies are the dinos heads the rest are whatever

[graceful fog]

hb the ranged cameraman?

[full stream]

just shot the cassette the dinos can actually kill shit

u have bp lvl 80

the NI from any enemy simply doesnt exist if ejya comes into play

[maiden hound]

philae 🗣️

[wet isle]

They will throw it at the last deployed operator, position your operators so the casettes will have to travel in light where your bloop can kill them

[full stream]

i am not gonna ask

[graceful fog]

ic

[wet isle]

Tragodia will also hit your last deployed operator so make sure it is someone with decent HP so they don't get oneshot and Eyja at least has someone to heal

[graceful fog]

hmm but if i try bursting down the boss then the dinos are a hugee problem

[graceful fog]

ya thats why mylnar taunt is goated

like i think im cooked

[full stream]

u dont have to burst him down fast,with ejyaalt he will be 0 threat

just take it slow

same play exu2>dinos

[graceful fog]

i cant take eyja tho cuz i need mylnar

he holds the 3 lanes very well, i dont think i have a replacement nearly as good as mylnar

[fringe solstice]

You don't need mlynar. He is better if you don't have the dps. I think you can do a similar setup to what I did but without wisadel #strategy message

[graceful fog]

ooo interesting

[fringe solstice]

you would need to have someone turn on the camera left for the cameraman enemy tho

[graceful fog]

ill try this strat out cheers

[full stream]

about the same as hybrid

tragodia doesnt have true damage reduction just physical/arts

[fringe solstice]

I think some others had success with eyja pointed up but you would block the boss at the top right instead

[full stream]

so mon3tr doesnt need to be in light

[graceful fog]

so for eyja strat the tragodia blocker is the last deploy?

[full stream]

ejya should be able to stop the NI yes

[graceful fog]

in this case melantha or cuora

i assume

[full stream]

just melantha

mon3tr can also dps enemies that is coming from midlane

[graceful fog]

cuora as in hybrid's strat

[full stream]

sure

[graceful fog]

but yea ok will try it out

[fringe solstice]

It doesn't matter too much. Eyja will heal the NI to whoever you place down

[graceful fog]

ok, also eyja s3?

oh ok

[full stream]

S1

Shit lag

[graceful fog]

bet

[fringe solstice]

I did it with s1 but you need to place her early so you want more dp. I used 2 vanguards

[graceful fog]

still lacking dps on the left side, my cuora gets overwhelmed by too many enemies

something like this right

[somber falcon]

swap bp and trag position

[fringe solstice]

that seems right, just activate mon3 skill

[graceful fog]

alr cheers

[bright torrent]

Which skill of eyja is the best for ad ex 8?

[dapper hedge]

Eyja alt? You always do s1 w her

Rarely s3

[sly drift]

Only you probably

[graceful fog]

anyone got a giga eyja i can borrow?

[full stream]

#friend-id

[graceful fog]

OKAY

i THINK im doing the strat correctly

anything of note i shd do for wave 2?

do i redeploy exu2 at top left?

sorry ik im asking for hella lot of handholding but i've done dozens of attempts to get here

[toxic flume]

Is that borrow eyja ?

[full stream]

I am not sure if any more enemies comes from top right if not yes just redeploy exu2

[toxic flume]

I see

[graceful fog]

yea dinos dont spawn wave 2

[leaden sierra]

after 2 dragons, none

[toxic flume]

There's another way that use yu S2 and kill boss fast as possible, but you need good wandering medic to heal yu before his skill is activated since boss can hit him from far away

( i use strategy that base from afk clear but borrow wisAdel and doesn't eyja )

[graceful fog]

nvm top left enemies still shred thru cuora

ah well i think ill just complete it on the rerun, thanks yall

[umbral mountain]

@last gazelle

[last gazelle]

Hello

[umbral mountain]

What mats are u missing for exu2 rn?

And is she e1?

[last gazelle]

E1 yes

I can't unlock the gold pyramid thing yet

[umbral mountain]

I forward this here cuz I'm too lazy to keep scrolling up

[toxic flume]

KyostinV doesn't upload video yet?

[umbral mountain]

That's tough

[pearl compass]

He already have Lowend guide.

[toxic flume]

[pearl compass]

With Mlynar carry alone.

[toxic flume]

Yu and WisAdel make life easier in AD EX 8

[umbral mountain]

https://imgur.com/jhAaqaY

Did u follow this alrdy?

[last gazelle]

I haven't gotten tequila yet

And silverash and silence

Besides the day 7 one I haven't used the others

[foggy grove]

can't you stall boss and redeploy your exu to helps before phase 2 begin

[graceful fog]

good shout ty

[umbral mountain]

Ok u should follow this guide then

[last gazelle]

Alright

[graceful fog]

i redeployed exu2 top left beside bp, but not enough dmg somehow

[toxic flume]

You cant clear Godzilla mascot?

[fringe solstice]

I was going to attempt this with slightly different positioning and I'm wondering why you are using courier instead of ines

[toxic flume]

Probably he doesn't have her

[graceful fog]

uhh shd i use ines?

[fringe solstice]

yes

[graceful fog]

i see

[graceful fog]

is it her s3? cuz my dp is quite tight

courier and myrtle skill procs twice before i take them out

[fringe solstice]

s2

s3 is mainly for more difficult content or you need the sentry deployed somewhere

@graceful fog main setup

early setup

bp s1 and saria s1

phant2 s2 to help bp

[vital arrow]

@nocturne cove they do

[nocturne cove]

yes

[vital arrow]

so the S2 range is also irrelevant

[nocturne cove]

payoff which will take almost 6 months

more or less depending on what you got

[vital arrow]

how would it take 6 months

ok good talk

[fringe solstice]

Almost. I forgot to bring gravel beat boss but rest of enemies leak because no camera light

hmm lemuen probably better than bp there

[graceful fog]

once u dealt with the dinos do u recall bp, and use someone else on the left?

[fringe solstice]

yeah I think so. I had the boss block the camera and the mannequins leaked

[graceful fog]

same issue here

[fringe solstice]

I wasn't paying attention either and mon3 died

[graceful fog]

i was scrambling to light up cameras but the boss just locked it up

my current progress

top lane abt to fk me up

[fringe solstice]

if you place saria next to eyja, she should be able to tank dinos

it is why I was testing lemuen placement

[graceful fog]

mm artillery strike would be nice

oh shit

is it a w?

[nocturne cove]

yes

you can use trag cat if things go haywire

[graceful fog]

ggs

TYSM!

im free

[fringe solstice]

[graceful fog]

man tyty

[fringe solstice]

np gg

[noble summit]

how do i beat LS-6 without supports?

it's the exp grinding stage

but i haven't unlocked the auto deploy feature on it yet

[pearl compass]

It's perfect.

[noble summit]

???

[pearl compass]

Now leave and don't even touch LS ever again

Go to Base

[noble summit]

dude i'm being gatekept by the event

[pearl compass]

And farm EXP there.

[noble summit]

i need to grind

[noble summit]

i'm not going to wait

[pearl compass]

No, you don't. Farm event then and buy EXP there.

[noble summit]

tragodia is gatekeeping me

[pearl compass]

???

You cannot AD-6 to AD-8?

[noble summit]

i can't beat tragodia

so i can't grind the event

[pearl compass]

Use lowend guide.

[noble summit]

i am broke on tickets

[pearl compass]

Damn, even bring the support.

[noble summit]

so i need to grind LS-6

to level up my units

[pearl compass]

Event is about to end today.

[noble summit]

to beat tragodia

[narrow pendant]

You can grind ad 6 or 7, no?

[pearl compass]

DO NOT FARM THIS.

Once again asking.

[noble summit]

fine

i've got a few hours

[pearl compass]

You waste stamina for low output like that.

You should worry only for mats, since you cannot gain it passively and constantly.

EXP and LMD are not the big deal.

[spark sinew]

you don't really gain anything by beating tragodia

[pearl compass]

Which is always on Event.

[noble summit]

i can't get past him

[spark sinew]

i didn't say you could

[pearl compass]

Especially if you lack those two, you can get them via Event Shop.

[noble summit]

path of life is rerunning today?

[pearl compass]

Yes

[noble summit]

good

[spark sinew]

for newer accs you can't beat the efficiency of dumping sanity on event

[noble summit]

i'm not a new account

[spark sinew]

are you not

[noble summit]

at least i think?

[foggy grove]

looks like he has several e2

so it's just strat issue

[noble summit]

i'll send my operators

wait

[spark sinew]

it's 3 separate instances i feel

1. unless you have 100 of each manga kohl you should be fine with running event
2. if you can't beat a normal boss stage, you're new
3. LS6 is questionable to farm in almost all cases, doubly so in this context

you really should raise base slaves, this is ridiculously underdeveloped roster base wise

@marble parrot will help you with the list

[marble parrot]

nope

i dont know base

[full terrace]

Oh yeah you are right. I forgot NPC Yu actually got the buff from the event itself, normal Yu cant do it I just went to test it, there is a paper-thin difference in their ATK, we need to wait for Yu's Module.

[opal snow]

any tip on H12-4?

[vocal leaf]

you can make it work with skalter or stainless to help yu, but at that point, why don’t you directly buff tragodia instead

[full terrace]

Yeh