strategy

[mint hound]

So deals 190% of atk would be atk×1.9=damage before enemy def/res

Am I correct on that

[queen axle]

i mean 190% of something is 1.9x so should be

[glass monolith]

I have issue with seeing what question is

[rich plover]

S2 or S3?

[foggy grove]

s2

s3 has lower dph

[mint hound]

?

[queen axle]

s3 is better for mechanist actually cause he has hitcount shield

but it didn't really matter pre vec12

[foggy grove]

s3 can't one cycle on this case

[queen axle]

im still upset

i cant do vec12 cause no tank built lmao

and no thorns for the frd strat

ugh

[glass monolith]

100% is "1". So 200% is 2, 150% is 1.5 etc. If there is some confusion in how it all maths together it would be easier to clear confusion with some numbers than trying to say same things in different forms

[pearl compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/858847416278057050/1248257211621183508/IMG_20240606_153631_255.jpg?ex=690d41de&is=690bf05e&hm=73ab34f767f1a4f2f362a58277e743ad3c0735e19fc4e850ccaddbb2e3f0a7bd&

Little lied, but here you are.

[queen axle]

[pearl compass]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-schwarz-ceylon-christmas-gift-gif-5827423178251081215

[glass monolith]

Snipers keep getting away with it

[queen axle]

kissed to death by Ceylon

[mint hound]

Deals 190% would be a 1.9 multiplier, which is applied after all other buffs, it does not directly affect the atk stat, it is how much more damage the enemy takes before def/res, correct?

[pearl compass]

Hand + CivilEterna btw.

[worn root]

Basic attack as well

[mint hound]

How the hell did you deal 2.5 mil

[pearl compass]

^^^

[rich plover]

Nvm, did it

Just need to time it right before his shield pops

[worn root]

Doesnt civil increase true damage?

[pearl compass]

+150% True damage amplifier, yes.

All sources.

[worn root]

Ig everything is true damage if you hit hard enough

[pearl compass]

[glass monolith]

Basically yes, my confusion origins with my math knowledge that 190% is 1.9x

[pearl compass]

No, it's just hand working very wacky

[pearl breach]

Is it those execute thingy.. under 20% hp or smth for heavy shooter, beseiger and deatheye

[pearl compass]

Instead of kill command, it just deals True damage of equivalent 20% HP remaining to the enemy, which forces him to die/phase switch.

[queen axle]

and that dmg got amplified ?

[pearl compass]

Well

You see that.

It does.

[cedar finch]

i've been playing this for 4hrs, adding some other chars but haven't finished the second phase when two trucks downed my Yu
It's quite a timing work, tho

[pearl breach]

I dont think so. It just how the game works. Logos is the highest iirc. Can reach up to 25 mil cap

[cedar finch]

i think i'll figure it out after dinner

[glass monolith]

That execution on rerun was blessing to my ass who didn't want to play that stupid teleport man games

[mint hound]

Yes, that is correct. So the 190% doesn't add to the atk stat it's just how much damage is dealt. So I fully understand how that works now right?

[foggy grove]

trim in a few hours?

[worn root]

So any enemy under 20% hp gets thanos snapped

[pearl compass]

Yep.

[cedar finch]

within some hours, yes

[pearl compass]

That's what Besieger/Deadeye/Sharpshooter Hand basically does.

[cedar finch]

i had to cope with the vec-12

i dont have ulp

[worn root]

I had to borrow ulpi

[cedar finch]

i wish i could but

oh wait

maybe i can replace yu with ulp but that i cannot have anyone to drag mech to mid

[mint hound]

Essentially (1071+171%)+420=3322×1.9=6312.579-enemy def/res

[worn root]

Just have 3 blockers for each lane

[cedar finch]

tried hoshi for up line but she died of triple shots

[glass monolith]

More or less, but it is little early for "dealt" part. Because after DEF/RES there is damage scale - Fragile and alike effects each of which adds additional multiplier >1 or Damage reduction sources each of which adds <1 multiplier (which multiply whatever you end up with AFTER Def/Res part)

[cedar finch]

and i dont have anyone to hold on

also the deer aw man

if texas didn't stun it my Shu will blew up

[mint hound]

Ok

Alright

Thank you

Thanks for putting up with my dumbassery

[glass monolith]

It is mostly my nitpick on terms, not all enemies have damage reduction, and usually fragile etc not there unless you specifically bring operator who does it

[cedar finch]

is there any operator to pull my yu's almost end healthline

Esp when the two trucks come in

Cannot have two texas to stun both

[glass monolith]

"Context_parser not responding"

[cedar finch]

maybe crownslayer but ok

or projekt red

[pearl compass]

Saria S3

[cedar finch]

Just uh buy some time for reed to heal

[pearl compass]

[cedar finch]

Probably, lemme try that

Havent specailized tho

I spent all my module blocks for just a hard mode limited time

[cedar finch]

I'm back

The crownslayer method seems practical but

Havent specialized so there are certain chances that yu died

[sly drift]

Bruhh... isn't MT-S-3CM the ONLY stage so far where Thornster S2 actually being significant? (Reduce enemy healing so much). And why the hell no one here or any AK community I joined talked about it. Actually fking insane.

https://youtu.be/aSYIQG_xKmU

[queen axle]

idk didn't need him but ig hes also a solution

[sly drift]

That black dude born for this stage but when this stage released no one remember him

[cedar finch]

Xd

But had to say this map is one of the most annoying ones

Esp hard mode

[queen axle]

zuo le carried me here

[glass monolith]

Thorns reduces healing??????

[sly drift]

[glass monolith]

[pearl compass]

https://tenor.com/view/lin-yuhsia-arknights-orb-pondering-gif-4542526462622598370

Rrat

[glass monolith]

In case of an emergency tool which will help us later

[cedar finch]

I think i'm the only one having lemu, myntar and alt exu to deal with only one square of these

Thanks to shu for saving me from bombarded

[pearl breach]

People already know about this in here. Just look back a bit.

Many s-3 clear using thorn or eblana

[pure orchid]

tbf if ur using thorns, you're using 6-star
and atp its more straightforward to use something like wis to oneshot

[foggy grove]

wis is not a good borrow for that map

[queen axle]

all dmg dealt gets healed back

[pure orchid]

either my memory is wrong or my wis oneshotted the healers

or maybe i used someone else

[sly drift]

Oh really?
No wonder so many ppl scream over S-3CM
Wisadel can't solve it

[foggy grove]

[pure orchid]

definitely didnt use lemuen

[teal moon]

Wisadel can, I did it

[foggy grove]

wis attack too slow

[teal moon]

but maybe it's a difference of levels/pots

[pure orchid]

mines just lv60 pot2

[teal moon]

oh yeah, also Shu talent slop lol

[pure orchid]

oh.

right, buffs

i have skalter

okay case closed

[teal moon]

just borrow schwarz

[pure orchid]

but then u cant borrow wis 🥀

in times of doubt, there is always heidi

[cedar finch]

Tysm hybrid!!!

Alright alright we made it!!!!!!!!

Holding mid is such a headache

If you dont have ulp+gladiia you have to take mutiple medics to save your frontline

[pure orchid]

yup

its either ulpi or an army of medics

gee an ulpi rerun would be nice right about now

[cedar finch]

Imagine shining + reed + warfarin + shu healing Yu

[cedar finch]

It's gonna be soon i think

Ulp is my next pull list anyway

[pure orchid]

yeah but only after this event

and he's like, squished between a lot of good banners

[cedar finch]

The following banners are all broken (some very

Had to make choices before the anniversary

But right now i'll say goodbye to the goddamn vb event

I think i cannot challenge even A

[sly drift]

https://youtu.be/QNpJXAMqtfc

Saria S3 sp battery and Exusiai S3 interaction

Need something to reduce redeployment time for S3 Exusiai device. And we have literal infinite S3 Exusiai + almost perma Saria S3

[rich plover]

Need tips for Mechanist Phase 2

VEC-08 specifically

[cedar finch]

Ulp or other?

[rich plover]

I don't have him nor do I have Gladiia built

[cedar finch]

Oh well

[glass monolith]

Kill him. Then dog. Stall dog with something dumb like Crownslayer S3 + bodies to reset speed build up

[cedar finch]

Hoshi should buy some time

[pure orchid]

oh come on this is stupid 😭

shit like this is why i knew i couldnt skip exu2

[glass monolith]

Skill issue, I have no exu2, Shu, CookBoy and perfectly fine

[ripe trellis]

i cant even call it stupid because i've tried it

[pure orchid]

dont get me wrong im not saying stupid like its bad

more like

[queen axle]

cant u acheive the same with like ptilopsis 4sui and medic keeping her at full hp

[pure orchid]

stupid, fun !!!

[ripe trellis]

no its different

[pure orchid]

what no

[ripe trellis]

saria restores sp when she heals an operator

[pure orchid]

this is much much faster

[queen axle]

its just sp

[ripe trellis]

the whole point is exu has hp drain

so saria s3 restores sp at an insane rate

[queen axle]

ah

holy exu2 saria technology

[ripe trellis]

so you can get exu s3 back basically instantly like that

except

why lol

[queen axle]

it does no dmg anyways

[pure orchid]

this is like saying "why have 100sp/second when u can have 2

[ripe trellis]

????

wdym

[foggy grove]

just tell them to release Touch

[pure orchid]

fuck you mean no dmg

[ripe trellis]

exu s3 deals so much damage

[queen axle]

joking cause low dph

[pure orchid]

laqera u got this 🫡

[ripe trellis]

just because s2 deals more damage doesnt mean s3 deals low damage

[ripe trellis]

bro

its not even that low

its just lower than s2

[sly drift]

5 operators to do that?
No shit sherlock

[queen axle]

wasnt it like 1000 something

[ripe trellis]

?????

its still 2k

[queen axle]

well true

[pure orchid]

bro just typing shi

[glass monolith]

Over 9000 operator synergies

[ripe trellis]

like

[glass monolith]

Oh wait you counting DPH, not how much bodies it need

[queen axle]

i mean i know it has higher dps higher total dmg than s2 at 0 def

[ripe trellis]

yes and thats still a lot of damage

saying s3 deals no damage is

certainly a statement

[queen axle]

i just say stuff okay !

[ripe trellis]

especially when it has more records than exu s2

lol

[queen axle]

but i was mostly joking

[sly drift]

Go..
Keep going.

[pure orchid]

personally i like to think before i speak

[ripe trellis]

lower expected skill total damage

fair enough ig

[glass monolith]

Weak. I don't even read what I type before sending

[ripe trellis]

2 hrs until i can start s3 m3 💀

[queen axle]

limbus has done unfixable damage to my head i guess

[pure orchid]

still havent done it?

its kinda peak...

[ripe trellis]

ikik but like

the gains for the redeployment part of the skill is basically nothing

theres initial sp but

[pure orchid]

ok yeah

[ripe trellis]

everything else is identical

so like

if im only using it mainly for the redeployment gimmick

mastering it doesnt even do much

[pure orchid]

initial sp is js the first deployment
then the dmg is whatever

they really held back

shouldve been sp cost

[ripe trellis]

the damage gains arent bad actually

no i like this

her sp costs are identical across skill levels

its kind of nice

they really gave her the premium treatment

[pure orchid]

you dont want reduced sp cost on masteries?

[ripe trellis]

to be better than wisadel at almost everything

[worn root]

https://youtu.be/EOqnuKyyldg?si=ONjO8BzHrbbAcgsm

[ripe trellis]

i'd like to think of it as, her mastry levels dont change

like

the sp cost is the same low cost throughout

this means she's got good cycling even at e1

[queen axle]

oh boy 17m

[pure orchid]

her cycling is really nice

[ripe trellis]

like idk the 23 initial to 25 initial

[pure orchid]

then the mod with 0.2

[ripe trellis]

the 2 sp difference

is just so nice cuz

at e1 theres minimal difference

🥹

[pure orchid]

b-but 2 seconds saved

[ripe trellis]

i mean yeah

good to see

[pure orchid]

the most interesting part to me here is the barrier

like aside from the fast cycling high dps

[ripe trellis]

smh smh stinky wisadel

[pure orchid]

50 🥀

[ripe trellis]

stuck in the past im ngl

imagine not having built in +0.25 sp/s

🚮

[pure orchid]

yk i already replaced wis for exu2 on my slop team

[foggy grove]

do you want exu cycle on wis?

[ripe trellis]

i want exu cycle on exu

[pure orchid]

well its not js the cycle thats a "problem" nowadays

[ripe trellis]

wis is fine as she is

[sly drift]

We will eventually have it without ppl asking anyway. Whether you like it or not.

HG do powercreep like that

[pure orchid]

aoe enemies, or maps with no room for wis spikes

[ripe trellis]

genuinely dont mind hg's powercreep that much

[pure orchid]

even mechanist punishes wis if u dont use her properly

[ripe trellis]

i didnt even use wis

[worn root]

Nah, wisadel will stay far away from asmongold

[ripe trellis]

i used

wait for it

exu s3

[pure orchid]

meanwhile u can mostly drop exu2 and barrier will do insane work

[queen axle]

exu2 s3 is peak for mechanist hitcount barrier

[ripe trellis]

correct

[pure orchid]

huh.

[ripe trellis]

it just disappears

[pure orchid]

my approach was a bit more primitive

yato s2

[ripe trellis]

wtf

[full stream]

thorns take it or leave it

[ripe trellis]

i've gotten love in sami three times in a row

[pure orchid]

i needed the s2

[queen axle]

sun we need to spread the thorns clear propaganda more

[foggy grove]

puzzle it

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11nJizVETR/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click buffless version

[ripe trellis]

ines s1

[queen axle]

e0 puzzle carried

[full stream]

he was genuinely one of the options

[ripe trellis]

3769

[foggy grove]

nice

[scarlet fulcrum]

very neat execution tbh

[foggy grove]

it answered my question
#strategy message

[scarlet fulcrum]

oh dang

[dim merlin]

which squad best for is 4

[cedar finch]

I'm gonna to laugh when after hours abcd opens

I previewed the D one

And i'm so convinced that without ulp i cant play

I can handle with the deer with hoshi and shu, yes

But the conditions won't let me borrow someone apart of Wis or smth

[smoky halo]

specialist caster

uncontested best squad

[worn root]

[dusk quest]

3 hours of attempts for nothing

[worn root]

How many defenders?

[dusk quest]

Not enough to survive bs I'm afraid

[worn root]

Just use ulpi gladiia at that point

[dusk quest]

Dont have them

[worn root]

Gladiia is literally a welfare

[dusk quest]

Dont have them built*

[jovial nest]

finally

time for more garrisons and all-out effort

[full stream]

not yet bruh

[jovial nest]

shit

[cedar finch]

I think 3hrs left?

[jovial nest]

3 hrs...

sigh

[worn root]

Didnt sankta mik tank mechanist phase 1 like its nothing with s2 active?

[dusk quest]

I needed Yu for teleport

If I didnt, I'd have done it with Shu easily

But the devs dont playtest these with more than 3 teams it seems

[cedar finch]

No, they just didnt give you powerful buffs

[worn root]

Yu teleport for what, you dont rlly have anything for mechanist and the 2 other elites in the same lane

Better off using yu for cheesing the giraffe phase 2

[dusk quest]

For repositioning in to Wišadel and Exias range?

And burn

[cedar finch]

Use Yu to tp mech

I played like that

Cuz no one is up there anyway

[dusk quest]

And he can teleport construct later on

But he cant survive the bs

I put nightingale S3 he still two shots

[cedar finch]

You can leave deer to Shu + one med after all

[worn root]

Ever thought about using silence alt~ oh wait a min

[dusk quest]

I dont have Shu, Yu is borrowed

[cedar finch]

I have Shu S3 to handle the mech's skill

He locked on Yu anyway

[dusk quest]

Its fine, at least I can rest now knowing its unattainable

With the new buffs it'll be easy

[worn root]

No trimmed medal though

[dusk quest]

Idc

[worn root]

Fair

[dusk quest]

Devs can suck me off, I wont build a unit just for 1 event

It was fun other than this stage though

[cedar finch]

Toughers are behind

[lime lantern]

an yhelp for vec8

[glass monolith]

Jokes on you I build units to forget about using them

[lime lantern]

second phase he does the cross attacks ~3 times on ulpi he tanks it fine but then he just randomly switches to someone else and kills them

if its fine im not sure how id bait/prevent it

[cedar finch]

Its depending on the block amount

Every cross hit lower the target for 1 block

Temporary but long

[lime lantern]

so i should place down a 3 block unit as bait

[cedar finch]

Prior highest block then deploy sequence

[glass monolith]

Mind that ranged units have 1 block so when everything 1 block it can and will target ranged shit

[cedar finch]

And that's how my exu died

[lime lantern]

so i wait till he does 2 crosses on ulpi

then bait with a defender

[cedar finch]

Yeah anything that block 3 works (if there are only 2 ones then any 2 is ok

[lime lantern]

where should i put exu?

i put her on the circled tile but she doesnt have anyone to steal aspd off

wait im stupid i can place fodder left of her didnt see that tile

[cedar finch]

[pearl compass]

Yeah, thinking is hard

[lime lantern]

ok i swear i didnt need the second skill to be aspd' to kill p1 before he moves??

wtf did i change

man

[cedar finch]

[lime lantern]

how many crosses does he do

before he stops being invulnerable

[cedar finch]

6 i remember?

[lime lantern]

Zamn

[rich plover]

Need help with VEC 08, I have Goldenglow too

[lime lantern]

uhh second phase is frying

[cedar finch]

uh oh

Erm what's Jaye doing here

[lime lantern]

err

frd

i baited couple of his cross attacks

[cedar finch]

Ah

[lime lantern]

not quite sure where to go from there though

since he just does more

[cedar finch]

You need a better defender tho

Who you borrowed

[lime lantern]

Ulpenis

for top

he died probably because i skill issued the frds

[cedar finch]

No gladiia?

[lime lantern]

dont have her

[cedar finch]

Oh

[rich plover]

Do I need to invest into Gladiia?

[cedar finch]

You can get her from
Under Tides tho

[cedar finch]

You have ulpp or not

[lime lantern]

what does she do for him

[cedar finch]

2.5% regeneration
With module it comes to 3.5%

[rich plover]

HP restoration and dmg reduction if you get her module

[lime lantern]

uhh

id rather not

i just wnat to clear this and get out

maybe diff exu placement? idk

[cedar finch]

I'd suggest at least have her cuz this is mostly how ulpp is joked as "module 15"(if you have all abyssal buffs)
But gladiia provides extra survival ability esp in hard pressure levels like here

[nocturne cove]

mechanist will be the end of me

[lime lantern]

i dont even have ulpianus

im just borrowing him for this one stage

[rich plover]

Same here

[lime lantern]

and also

idt ulpi died cause no gladiia

that was probably my skil lissue

hes still gonna walk out of exu2 range

but if i put him down there facing right hes gonna step forward and oneshot her

[nocturne cove]

wisadel carries that stage

spawn camp mechanist

wait for shield to go down

[rich plover]

real

[nocturne cove]

and s3

since her 1 hit counts for 3

plus 3 rev shadow

[lime lantern]

not to mention im not going to E2Mod3 a random 6star to buff a borrowed unit

im broke man

[nocturne cove]

she can easily take down shield

[cedar finch]

2.5% is already enough

[lime lantern]

which spot did you put her in

[cedar finch]

[nocturne cove]

exu2 face down

[maiden hound]

you only need mod2 dw

[lime lantern]

i did do exu2 face down

[nocturne cove]

instead do wisadel

lemme open the game

[lime lantern]

no tahts so much better its 1mil lmd instead of 1.2mil

[nocturne cove]

rq

[cedar finch]

No i dont think they have enough time to have 50 trust asap

[lime lantern]

dafuq guys im not gonna e2 gladiia for this one stage

dont even have her

[nocturne cove]

you dont have to

??

[maiden hound]

shorely ccb5 needs pullers

[nocturne cove]

whoever said that needs to be sent to jail

[lime lantern]

man leave cc for when cc comes

[nocturne cove]

gacha jail

[rich plover]

I also need help too

[lime lantern]

leave me 20 day account alone

just wnat to do vec8 and leave

[nocturne cove]

ok what stage is it again?

[rich plover]

My squad comp

[nocturne cove]

08m

[cedar finch]

Oh alright that's quite stressing yes

[nocturne cove]

?

[lime lantern]

vec-08

[lime lantern]

and also buffless

cause like

no body to garrison

i could sack logos if hes deadweight

[rich plover]

I need to rush for the trim

[lime lantern]

and get 1(one) buff

[cedar finch]

Dont push, be steady

I pushed too much that wasted 8hrs on that

[cedar finch]

Go check some low-grade operator works

[rich plover]

But muh trim

[lime lantern]

let me try sack logos for -20% def

maybe this time i can finish p1 off with just 1 of each exu and lemuen skills

[spice mortar]

Is there a time limit to trim

?

[pearl compass]

3h+ remaining.

[lime lantern]

uhh ok so i can now get through phase 1 faster

[pearl compass]

[lime lantern]

do i need to frd 6 times or

[spice mortar]

Buh

[lime lantern]

well ulpi can take 1 cross then frd 5 times

[spice mortar]

Im not gonna be able to trim then

Cringe

[rich plover]

Finally done

Thank you Lemon

[lime lantern]

ok so yeah

second phase he starts walking and i can't get past his shield

[rich plover]

Yea, I just need to bait with a defender

[lime lantern]

if he stays just a bit longer

i can get shield down and lemon his ass

[spice mortar]

Gravel

[lime lantern]

what about gravel

[spice mortar]

She should poke him relatively fast

Its a hit count shield

[lime lantern]

let me try wizzy

over ulpi

[dusk quest]

Ofc we succeed now

WAIT

I thought the medal trim goes at reset??

[foggy grove]

no

[dusk quest]

You telling me I got up at 5AM for this shit for nothing

[foggy grove]

it end exactly 7 days after event open

[pearl compass]

Well, it will gone anyway within 3 hours, so you can sleep well now.

[dusk quest]

I could sleep if I was unemployed

I lost my sleep hours for nothing

Great

[cedar finch]

Congrats anw

[dusk quest]

Thanks

And fuck you Mechanist

I'll see you on a banner or never again

[stuck saffron]

my thoughts exactly, the dumbass i am

[cedar finch]

At least he'll be waiting me at D

[stuck saffron]

i was still figuring out my strat at reset

so i was mega pissed, but i looked at the server time, and the exact time the medal goes and they're not the same obvs

so the gaming was still on

[nocturne cove]

people are so obsessed with ulpi gladiia

they forget defenders exist

[dusk quest]

I did like 7 defenders strat

Hurt

[stuck saffron]

i tried yu

[cedar finch]

It is promising after all

[stuck saffron]

i malded a bunch with yu

and i just could not get that strat to work

[dusk quest]

The timing is too tight, otherwise he teleports to fuck knows where

[cedar finch]

I took hoshi, shu and yu since i dont have ulp

[dusk quest]

Wiš cant reach there

[cedar finch]

Oh yeah yu borrowoed

[stuck saffron]

i had to borrow eyja alter

[void terrace]

Nian eats mechanist's hits for breakfast

[stuck saffron]

i'm too new to have her

[void terrace]

His threatening attacks are all physical

He barely sratches nians defence

[sand venture]

Man #strategy is indeed a Strategy Channel

[cedar finch]

Oops

[void terrace]

Hoshi is good too if you have her mod

Mechanist main risk is his stupid 3x3 8 hit phys nuke

Hoshi can dodge some of them and her defence deals with the rest

[nocturne cove]

bro

even cuora tanks mechanist like champ

[void terrace]

Literally

[nocturne cove]

🤦‍♂️

[void terrace]

You just need defenders

Everyone keeps trying to use crushers

Just brick him

[dusk quest]

Nah Yu folds, it has to be a defender with def increase skill

[void terrace]

Yu needs good timing

[nocturne cove]

the only two things is that no other op should be in surroundign 8 tiles

plus

[void terrace]

And good medic supoort

[sand venture]

I used Ulp to tank Him while Miskapisarato to Tank his phase 1 Barrage

[nocturne cove]

the cross attack

[void terrace]

Proper cycle on yu isnt the best

[cedar finch]

The thing is mech is like
Ok he has very high dmg,
After surviving that that's a open window for you to dps
But then you realized that's not dps problem,
It's just only cuz he's so fudging high life and sometimes with shield

[dusk quest]

Also I'm guessing his potentials matter with burn?

[void terrace]

Nightingale can cheese mostnof it to be fair

[dusk quest]

Cause mine used wasnt even max level

[void terrace]

But proper placement can eleminate risk

[cedar finch]

We all learnt from the very before crowd caster that we need to split operators to avoid squad damage
But as time goes on that's not the simple case

[dusk quest]

its not simple when they design map with not enough spread placements

[cedar finch]

Let's wish others in strats help channel get over this hard bread

[void terrace]

No buffs

Super overkill squad lmao

But it was a very brainless clear

[sand venture]

mine is... U know

[void terrace]

Stall mechanist with 1 defender, his pet with another, lemuen nukes em

[dusk quest]

Hey its overkill stage too, so it evens out

[cedar finch]

Wish i had ulpp

[void terrace]

Ulp is such a trap here

[sand venture]

On first Phase yes but on 2nd his Dmg Will really well

After learning that His Barrage isnt locked to the one blocking him I just straight up use GunKnight to tank it

[queen axle]

skill issue

[queen axle]

he can tank with glad mod

[sand venture]

He can't tank him on Phase 1 without Glad

that Dng Phase one made me Think too much

[cedar finch]

Gladiia moment

[nocturne cove]

just use a defender bozo

[sand venture]

Def + the Device to ignore the Element ya

[nocturne cove]

if you place the defender correctly so that he wont harm your ops with 8 tile attack and cross attack

while reviving

it is just stall and cycle dps

[woeful island]

bruh my yu keeps dying

[rich plover]

Need help with VEC 11

[glass monolith]

He WILL hurt with 8 tiles attack because skill ignore being blocked when selecting target

[woeful island]

any tips for vec 12

[sand venture]

Dont DIe

[woeful island]

[glass monolith]

Step 1. Bring Crownslayer to stun giraffe.
Step 2. Stun immune Leaf leaked... Wait

[sand venture]

jk it preferable to use High Def Defender against Mechanist

[woeful island]

im seeing yu on every clear but mine just dies

[sand venture]

OPs with THICC HP while having paper thin Def just melts on Phase 1

[glass monolith]

Have 920 DEF to take "only" 1152 chip damage

[sand venture]

Low Def is really weak against Atk that have multiple Hits

[glass monolith]

Actually no wait. Attack is 80% ATK_scale, but damage is floored by 5% of 100% ATK, right?

[sand venture]

🫡 Dunno AK math

[glass monolith]

Fuck do I even have high enough def unit to check?

Hoshi won't do because she will talent hits away

[sand venture]

yes 5% of the 100% atk is the minimum physical dmg enemies/OPs could do if the def is higher or equal to the atk

I wonder if that 5% can be affected by dmg Reductions kekw

[pearl compass]

Damn bun

<beats her to death>

🥹

[sand venture]

GnoSus + Logoat

still suprised that the mini bosses isnt even Immune to alot CC

[rich plover]

Genuinely need help for this one

[foggy grove]

you re on timer just wisablast,exu monster the blue box

[rich plover]

Wdym exu monster

[pearl compass]

Exusiai New Covenant and Mon3tr

[rich plover]

Ok but where tho

Right side?

[foggy grove]

in front of your blue box

exu facing left to cover more lane

[rich plover]

Like north?

[glass monolith]

OH FUCK MY LIFE

[foggy grove]

bottom

[rich plover]

Bottom then left, got it

What about the right side?

[foggy grove]

exu will kill it or monster s3

[glass monolith]

On top of Vec-12 having tier 3 Mechanist map itself has fucking 120% enemy ATK because fuck you. Vec 12 mechanist is not 1200 ATK with 24x960 nuke, it is 1440 with 24x1152 which does at least 1728 chip damage

[rich plover]

How does Uproar's target priority work?

Nvm, just brute forced it

[pure orchid]

what is an uproar

[rich plover]

That archer in VEC

Btw, Mechanist in VEC 12 is the same as 08ss?

[pure orchid]

stronger

[pearl compass]

Stronger

[queen axle]

vec8 is a pushover vec12 isnt

[rich plover]

What about in terms of gimmicks?

I need to hurry

[queen axle]

uhh vec8 u can bruteforce and burst without a tank for vec12 u actually have to tank or stall him

theres like limbillion guides on yt

though its a roster check

[pearl compass]

On 50% HP Phase 2, turns on Invincibility again and spam Cross Attacks yet again, but it's 60% ATK power.

[rich plover]

Speaking of guides, where is Kyostinv's?

[pearl compass]

Other than that, nothing much else.

[pearl compass]

He doesn't do guides for modes that is hardly to complete for newbies.

Don't expect him doing anything.

[queen axle]

low end cant do trim though low end can do vec12 if all the op buffs are out

[pearl compass]

And he must clear with same lowend, using every E1-60 op in disposal.

[rich plover]

Ok, how's this? https://www.krooster.com/u/dungen27

[pearl compass]

And with that, complete VEC-12.

I doubt he will release any of guide even with full released buffs.

[queen axle]

yeah ur cooked its impossible for u oh wait saria could work

[rich plover]

I'm sorry?

[pearl compass]

1200 ATK in VEC-12
+200% ATK when going Phase 2

[queen axle]

ig try

[rich plover]

So who should I borrow lol

[queen axle]

shu to hold giraffe

but idt saria can tank mechanist without getting cycled so like

[sly drift]

Lim what?

[queen axle]

limbillion

[sly drift]

Peak

[rich plover]

Where is Arflaynr when you need him?

[stuck saffron]

i used shu and yu to hold the giraffe

ulpi to hold mechanist

[rich plover]

I have neither Suiblings

[narrow pendant]

Arf said, afair that he wont really make a guide for it cuz high end theres plenty, low end, theres like 0 chance

[rich plover]

Ok fine, I'll figure it out myself

[stuck saffron]

they seem to be the core strats of this whole thing from what i've seen

[queen axle]

its the bane of newbs cause it requires properly invested tanks and thats the last thing a new player would have

my e1 lvl 20 cuora is not built for this

[rich plover]

Only proper tank I have are Cuora and Saria lol

[queen axle]

yeah idt even saria is enough

i tried bruteforce with yu but i always die at the end of nirvana phase

[rich plover]

In terms of healers, M3, Ptliopsis

Hmmm, I'm whipping out the Global Duo

[mild wind]

i thought this cross attack is supposed to aim highest block

why did it aim gladiia

there was shu and spalter ahead of her

[queen axle]

at phase 2 it will aim to the one blocking giraffe

[mild wind]

[queen axle]

hes a bit of an ass yes

[mild wind]

i spent almost 3 hours on this

[queen axle]

i spent 3 days trying the same strat hoping to succeed gave up in the end

[mild wind]

i think i changed strat

like 4 times already

[rich plover]

I'm surprised I made it this far

[queen axle]

do u have shu/yu

[rich plover]

no i don't

[coarse knoll]

which skill should i use for ulp to hold mechanist?

[queen axle]

2

[coarse knoll]

2?

[pearl compass]

Guees how many BlockCount Ulpipi has?

[rich plover]

S2

[mild wind]

again theres shu and spalter

[queen axle]

he needs gladia btw

[coarse knoll]

he still dead with S2M3+module tho

[mild wind]

not fighting any two of these

[coarse knoll]

oh gladia

[pearl compass]

Same reason.

[coarse knoll]

do i also need gladia module

[queen axle]

yes

the one that makes DR universal

[mild wind]

my modX2 gladiia dies at very end

deadass had to borrow instead of going borrowless

[coarse knoll]

i have no more time for trim dang it

[queen axle]

[rich plover]

Ok, the naruto run rabbit ain't gonna let this be easy huh

[coarse knoll]

that rabbit is really something that's for sure

[nocturne cove]

just bind and burst

[narrow pendant]

Fun rabbit

[foggy grove]

you have ines

[narrow pendant]

We love bnnuy

[foggy grove]

burst it with exu

literally the least of your issue

[nocturne cove]

the only thing is

ines should have no enemies in her range

so she doesnt get distracted

[pure orchid]

then idk kill everything

bunny tanky so she will be left

[nocturne cove]

just activate exu skill a bit earlier

[queen axle]

shrimply have ines

[pure orchid]

if youre using gladiia for ulpi, u can use her too

[rich plover]

Btw, S2 or S3 for Exu 2?

[pure orchid]

depends on your strat

[queen axle]

its really only s3 for vec12 cause hitcount shield

[nocturne cove]

s3 if you wanna cycle yu/shu skill

s2 is good if you tanking him

[pure orchid]

i used s2 to place yu down safely

[nocturne cove]

s3 can do same thing

[unkempt rampart]

Man, it took me an entire day just to stop the jetpack enemy from reaching the blue box.

[pure orchid]

he gets oneshot otherwise

[nocturne cove]

use s3

and insta yu s3

ez

[pure orchid]

oh right it gives some sp

[nocturne cove]

yes

[pure orchid]

i always forget that

its so small

[nocturne cove]

6 sp

enough to activate

[pure orchid]

its something or nothing

for yu specifically its all he needs

[nocturne cove]

it's actually something

in content you use it

time really matters

no matter how small

🚬

[pure orchid]

in content u use it

its something

[rich plover]

Should I just rush invest into Gladiia for Ulpi?

[pure orchid]

uh

maybe if u want the trim, but u dont have enough time anw

js pack it up and wait for 2nd week buffs

[rich plover]

This trim is ass

[pure orchid]

its quite ass yeah

[nocturne cove]

anyways

[pure orchid]

roster check

[nocturne cove]

gladiia raise is questionable

you can easily replace gladiia ulpi

[rich plover]

Can true damage pierce Mechanist's shield?

[pure orchid]

in most cases gladiia can be replaced by a good healer

[nocturne cove]

it is all the same

[pure orchid]

but sometimes you really need the dr

[crimson raft]

example : M3

[pure orchid]

yes, the shield is only against phys/arts

its relatively easy to break tho so i wouldnt bother

[glass monolith]

Just do 50 hits and enjoy 20 second downtime

[pure orchid]

you also have the added bonus of making the giraffe squishier

[mild wind]

lord above

[pure orchid]

devil below

[mild wind]

ig i e2'ed yu giga late

[pure orchid]

did u get trim?

[mild wind]

[pure orchid]

[cinder pike]

you have like 1 hour 10 for trim

yu strat is pretty busted tbh

[glass monolith]

Who pinged me

[mild wind]

ik shit got me stressed so much if i end up bringing texas yato

[pure orchid]

yu mechanist into middle

[coarse knoll]

AHHH

[pure orchid]

yu die

ulpi block

happy life

[mild wind]

problem is

yu dies too early

[glass monolith]

Fix to issue that mechanist can't nuke bottom lane?

[pure orchid]

i just last deploy ulpi

the only way he touch bottom lane is laser

[nocturne cove]

use quercus

ez

or more healers

[pure orchid]

but laser does nothing to spalter

[pure orchid]

errr

[mild wind]

you underestimate mechanist p1 damage

[coarse knoll]

eyja died by accident got me a heart attack

[pure orchid]

idk if exu2 s2 can save that

[glass monolith]

Just 24x 1152

[coarse knoll]

then i pull that off some how

[mild wind]

[nocturne cove]

no

i actually malded a lot with ulpi gladiia

but then i found op named cuora

!!

[coarse knoll]

i probably can't take mechanist down if i don't have exu2 that S3 redeploying gladia save my life

[mild wind]

the start is nono for me because i either need to borrow yu s2m3 or exu s3m3

[coarse knoll]

me the whole time in second half of the run

panicking hard with gladia and eyja ded

[rich plover]

Bruh, I can't even get through phase 1 lol

[fierce tendon]

I always have a heart attack when my hoshi died

[crimson raft]

just bring more op

[sly drift]

Just revive it

[pearl compass]

Just believe harder in her.

https://tenor.com/view/hoshiguma-arknights-alter-hoshigumaalter-gif-10735270149167396590

[mild wind]

99.9% of gamblers quit before their hoshi dodge an entire burst

[pearl compass]

Jokes aside

[hollow turtle]

I thought I was doing well until the nukes came in and the red mobs and then bleh dead.

[pearl compass]

She carried DoS A-3.

[pearl compass]

Where Logos?

[hollow turtle]

I dont have him

[mild wind]

i remember completely different person responsible for A-3

[pearl compass]

Borrow S1.

[hollow turtle]

uh alright

[pearl compass]

Put him on right center tile.

[hollow turtle]

which mod?

[pearl compass]

Bring more defenders.

[pearl compass]

Delta is good.

[hollow turtle]

you mean left?

[pearl compass]

...Yeah.

[crimson raft]

no reason to use y mod

[hollow turtle]

which ones delta 😅

[hollow turtle]

ah

[pearl compass]

The triangle.

[hollow turtle]

How would I handle the nukes? which of my defenders can tank em? I can put one aside or something

May need to lvl them up a bit too

[pearl compass]

You don't tank, you jebate it.

[hollow turtle]

how..?

[pearl compass]

Btw, do you have Mudrock?

[pure orchid]

you can tank, with mudrock

ancient solve

[hollow turtle]

no.. 👉 👈

[lofty stag]

Ulpi s2

[crimson raft]

u can use either fast redeploy
or just use a op who have hp higher then 3000

[pearl compass]

At last moment, deploy Defender.

Cannon will always shoot operator with HIGHEST BlockCount possible in the map.

[hollow turtle]

darn everyone I have is either 1-2k hp, cardiganhowever can reach 3k I think if I lvl her up a bit

[crimson raft]

then bring more block 3 and redeploy them

[hollow turtle]

hmm alrightt

[pearl compass]

If you leave defenders block Reborns, which increases Block, the cannon just shoot right in your defense and will end your run.

[pure orchid]

she doesnt

[pearl compass]

So to prevent that, try to kill those Reborns ASAP without blocking.

[hollow turtle]

which dps in my squad should I use to take care of the one lane on the right (with the stairs), exualter or lemuen?

[pure orchid]

if u have mlynar just activate his skill when cannon about to hit

[pearl compass]

Logos S1 will handle it easily.

[hollow turtle]

assuming I want logos and wisadel on center left

[hollow turtle]

yur but like the one lane where he cant reach

[pure orchid]

thats where i put my mudrock

[hollow turtle]

thats where I'll place a defender on bottom or top and have a dps on either top or bottom to take care of em

[pearl compass]

Strong melee, maybe even SilverAss will handle it, lol.

[hollow turtle]

YO, yall making me want to spend my gold cert on him

[pure orchid]

do not

also her

[maiden hound]

do not

[pearl compass]

No.

[rich plover]

I need help with op choice and placement for VEC 12 lads

[hollow turtle]

should I use his s2?

or s1

[hollow turtle]

I keep forgeting lmao

[pearl compass]

S2 and if he targeted by cannon, turn off the skill.

[hollow turtle]

gotcha

[crimson raft]

or maybe u can use this as a ref
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GJ4m1M7uk/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=0afd347e6d637d0eee318f2236c45fe9

[pure orchid]

GAAAAHHH WHY 1 MORE HOUR FOR SPECIAL FRONT

give it to me

[rich plover]

My squad

[pure orchid]

wallahi

[rich plover]

...no dice?

[cyan plover]

For you it's 1 hour til special front starts, for some it's 1 hour til their trim disappears

[rich plover]

So I can't do it?

[pure orchid]

idk its looking kinda grim

gonna need MORE healing than that

[hollow turtle]

whats the nuke thing called again? I needa check its range rq

[narrow pendant]

Which? Mechanist?
Nirvana protocol

[pure orchid]

oh shit rip everyone

nah theyre talking abt ch10 cannon

londinium cannon is what its called i think

[hollow turtle]

yep ty

[narrow pendant]

3k true dmg

[hollow turtle]

mann logos making me wish I had him over wis

[foggy grove]

erm

[narrow pendant]

9x9 range, but cut each corner

Is the range

Wait no

Im fuckingg dumb

5x5

[hollow turtle]

its fine I checked the wiki for its range thats why I asked its name

[cyan plover]

Bro wanted to cover half the map

[sly drift]

With future buffs maybe.

[queen axle]

ascalon who?

[narrow pendant]

My nuts

[sly drift]

Wait.. there are new special stages and buffs coming right now

[rich plover]

Nope, Yu can't tank well without Shu

[sly drift]

Oh.. in 33 mins

[rich plover]

I feel like giving up, but the trim tho......

[somber falcon]

teleporting mechanist with yu strat has the prerequisite of having a proper tank beside him
if you don't have that, just borrow one and tank him normally on top

[rich plover]

So Yu and Saria?

[queen axle]

mm role compression tank

[fierce tendon]

Saria has like longer uptime than shu

But you can try

[somber falcon]

wdym longer uptime?
you can calc her s1 against shu s3 like that? 🤨

[sly drift]

Just forger trimmed medal.. You are already cooked. Your deadline is half an hour.

[fierce tendon]

Ah wait i thought s3 saria

[somber falcon]

who tanks with saria s3

[fierce tendon]

Wait no

Nah im lost

I was trying to like testing to use saria s3 just to heal hoshi during phase 2 shit

[queen axle]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-gif-13612391308574250563

[somber falcon]

idk if saria can tank mechanist that well, haven't tried that
try using nian

[rich plover]

Damn me for not going all in for Yu

Ah well, at least I can obtain the normal medal

[fierce tendon]

Nian can hold phase 1 mechanist but barely in phase 2

Well normally defenders felt like paper on phase 2

[rich plover]

I'll just wait for more buffs I guess

[fierce tendon]

I use exalter s2 for shield and shu+eyjalter for healing

[dusk quest]

You have more healing than me and I did it so you can do it

[fierce tendon]

Just for my defender to tank

[queen axle]

hes cooked sadly u cant heal ded peeps

[rich plover]

Can't outheal the damage apparently

[dusk quest]

No but you can swap in new defenders, and heal the rest

[fierce tendon]

Yeah actually

[queen axle]

shrimply have multiple defenders built

[pure orchid]

@rich plover im trying something similar to this rn

[topaz tapir]

I think my placements might be shit

[dusk quest]

It aint 2021 ak, defenders are needed nowadays in endgame

[pure orchid]

so far its working except i dont have a way to kill giraffe

i can reliably kill mechanist tho

[rich plover]

Only built Defenders I have are Horn, Cuora and Saria

[pure orchid]

idk what else u have in your roster

[rich plover]

https://www.krooster.com/u/dungen27

If you wanna know

[dusk quest]

Something to work on during and after the event hehe

[cyan plover]

doesn't the giraffee die after mechanist or somethin? I could be wrong

[somber falcon]

oh mon3tr is there

[queen axle]

it has a life of its own it wont die even if mechanist dies though u gotta kill mechanist to permanently kill it

[cyan plover]

I see

[pure orchid]

that degen might cook

[topaz tapir]

What should my placements be so that I don't die to spiders honestly

[rich plover]

Please tell me I still have hope

[pure orchid]

you have hope but its really schizo

and 20 minutes

[cyan plover]

Oh right, that's what may have happened.

[dusk quest]

Get your defenders up and you have a shot

A single shot

[pure orchid]

best u can do now is watch this video for a few seconds and get an idea

shuless cope

[hollow turtle]

big brain move, have exualt's s2 shield both her and the defender from the nuke so I dont have to redeploy ✨
🤯

[foggy grove]

moduled saria survives cannon regardless

[sly drift]

Big brain? Sigma brain will use Vigil dog to endlessly tank the artillery

[rich plover]

What was your squad like?

[rich plover]

Say less cuz you have fuckin Wisadel

[dusk quest]

Exia did most of the work

Do you have her?

[rich plover]

I have her yea

[dusk quest]

Her S3 is another defender basically

[queen axle]

what we dont have is 5 defenders invested

[rich plover]

I only have 3 defenders invested lol

[queen axle]

the next time this comes back ill get my revenge

[queen axle]

me with 0

[rich plover]

The rest are either E1 or E0

[dusk quest]

For the future, dont raise so many ops to a random point at the same time, do 1 or 2 up to their breakpoint (E1 70, E2, E2 mod level) and you'll be good

This event is for developed accounts

No need to feel bad

[rich plover]

Tbf, I've only played for almost 1 year

[maiden hound]

wow it's myo from the hit game library of ruina

[cyan plover]

His account's arguably quite developed.

But just like, not enough I guess.

[dusk quest]

Yeah and thats good progress, but now you should focus more

[rich plover]

So near, yet so far

Just like how I missed my chance with MT S 5 CM

[queen axle]

i never had a chance with this i was coping so bad

[cyan plover]

I'd give advice but I haven't tested Vec-12 enough. Only cleared it once and wrapped it up.

[dusk quest]

You have like 3/5 required ops, youre close too

[queen axle]

farthest i got was the end of nirvana phase at phase 2

and yeah

cant really bruteforce this one sadly

[dusk quest]

Shu makes the stage twice as easy, and Yu basically allows a full on strat

[queen axle]

i used yu strat yeah but having no shu it fell apart

[dusk quest]

I havent had her either, so I had to resort to medics/defender spam

But with her she can both heal Yu and keep herself safe AND keep the construct in place