#strategy

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dusty cedar
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Wonder if zou le works

haughty flower
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The only issue is depending on how you kill Mechanist he may still be alive at that time and Uproar takes middle lane.

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That's added pressure to middle that might just be enough to kill a setup that was barely hanging on already.

noble pewter
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When all buff arrives, game will be easy n just by borrow 1 core dps unit, then have a way to bind slow mid enemies, n perma stall mech n giraffe with fast redeploying units while not running out of dp shud be victory

full terrace
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The archer that appears near the end
Can be solo helidropped with burst unit

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Such as Degen

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I had Degen 1 vs 1 that archer

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On my alt account I mean

haughty flower
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One two buckle my shuuuu

full terrace
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Question like this goes to #help btw

safe bane
dusty cedar
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Bruh strategy might be a better channel for that lol

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Imo

full terrace
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Nah #help is better, they have stuff pinned and all that

safe bane
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Id think strategy would be for like stage strategy tho

full terrace
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Also more regulars are active there

dense crown
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Is there any strat to clear this, the boss is so tanky and the dmg is so high, my shu cannot even tank 1 hit

dusty cedar
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Hmm true2

full terrace
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Boss has 500% modifiers bro

dusty cedar
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Don't have much comments. When it comes to roster building it really just goes two ways

full terrace
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Thats a d18 stats

dusty cedar
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Either you're willing to learn how to, or you can simply follow a meta guide

full terrace
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Actually, higher than d18

dense crown
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is other boss any better?

full terrace
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Also ignore stages that have miniboss such as

dusty cedar
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Sorry off topic ugh

full terrace
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Elusive Merc with W

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Regular Army

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Ignore those if you dont wanna explode

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Every other normal enemies has d0 stats but the bosses have d18 stats so

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Also did you do the opening routine?

safe bane
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Exa and lumeun makes me cruise through the storyline pretty fast

dense crown
full terrace
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Like grabbing Lamp, Kings wishing, cultivating Shrivels and all that

dusty cedar
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Meta wise hmm

noble pewter
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Could try gladia mid facing bot with s3, can use to stop giraffe when no one can block bot, ulpi block bot giraffe n facing up to mechanist as he can teleport to top n return to bot, logos can top left with s3, exualter above him face right, wis bottom left face up for more dps to mechanist as well as mid, maybe borrow a hoshi to block top for p1, exualter s3 can serve as redeploy n ulpi can backup if still dies, n use all other slot for more fast redeploy or healing support or dps faster kill less healing stress

dusty cedar
full terrace
cyan plover
dense crown
full terrace
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You dont tank

humble bramble
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do we think I can clear vec-12 week 1 without walter, ulpi, eyjaberry, shu or yu : )

full terrace
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You hit him from afar just like how you play d18

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You can stall but you need to bait

full terrace
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FRDs baiting

tiny talon
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mb

safe bane
scarlet fulcrum
tiny talon
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also can i clear vec 08 no buff with eyjaberry (borrow), mon3tr yu and ines cuz no sash

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theres this one guide in yt but it uses sash

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and another one uses exupie s3m3 but mines s3m2 and mod 2

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trust farming is ass

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71%

humble bramble
# tiny talon yeeeee no

fr? i was down to try I want my trim but returning player from 3 years in the past 💀
i own exalter from the latest banner and that’s kind of it for the newer meta ops : )
what if I raise ulpi

tiny talon
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can i get it to 100%

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in time

noble pewter
humble bramble
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2 big problems, 1 is healing/bottom side sustain, one is tank mech

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i saw a clear with hoshi +shining to tank mech
hoederer botside

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but they use virtuosa/ascalon/nymph or something to hold mid

noble pewter
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Use the old reliable thorns CardAyy rest welfare n kernel units

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Day 1 buff trimmed

scarlet fulcrum
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Only used for his dot

dusty cedar
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GGs

noble pewter
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Borrow a lemuen maybe for s3 nuke mechanist at blue box once shield if down

humble bramble
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in the first row

full terrace
full terrace
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Exu alter I mean

noble pewter
full terrace
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I mean you can Hoshi Mechanist as well

noble pewter
humble bramble
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no the one next to ascalon (?)

full terrace
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Also do you have some form of stalling for Leafcarpet

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Yes Ascalon can handle Leafcarpet

humble bramble
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oh its a cn server clear we don’t have those right
nvm

full terrace
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If you have her

dusty cedar
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Yuh Hoshi counters mechanist

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With talent 1

noble pewter
dusty cedar
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He slaps her three times and boom

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Sheild gone

queen axle
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her s2 also

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it kills his shield

humble bramble
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Ines maybe work?

dusty cedar
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Bruh her s2 still can't tank second phase mechanist

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Or maybe I'm skill issue

noble pewter
humble bramble
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Okay i can use ines for stall mayb
but what does crownslayer do here

dusty cedar
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her best

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😭

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Sry no but isn't her stalling good with module now

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I heard at least

humble bramble
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I so very much want the trimmed medal

humble bramble
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thanku!! I will study it carefully and come back if I fail

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LMAO

regal frost
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Lego do you know if any ccb4 max risk exists without saileach or nian

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cause I can't find any if they do exist

noble pewter
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What is ccb4 PtiloThink I guess if type into bilibili search bar can try find

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Can't find this term, what does it stand for CardAyy

queen axle
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is this the 2nd vector for en?

lapis hornet
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弧光作战 880分

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ccb4 max

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or highest idk

scarlet fulcrum
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Its called arclight operation

lapis hornet
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yeah there was a vector before

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  • dos was prototype
queen axle
dusty cedar
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Aw man that one was hell haha

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Still memorab tho

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Memorable

noble pewter
regal frost
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I'm missing both

weak gazelle
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what this vector thing again? i forgor tbh
its rewards worth the effort?

dusty cedar
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Super hardcore content

regal frost
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and I don't think max risk is clearable without sail and nian

acoustic slate
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Fuck does this mean I have to raise my saileach

regal frost
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yes

weak gazelle
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well, i am looking for t5 piss jar HellaHands

acoustic slate
regal frost
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I can't remember the highest I found without sail or nian but it was 800 something

scarlet fulcrum
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prev one with Ros

dusty cedar
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Guess it's time for that saileach m6...

weak gazelle
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ahh i see
guess i need to have 1 day off to this clear this all

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still at ex-8 when event almost closeHellaHands

scarlet fulcrum
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This one with mechanist and Ros later iirc

regal frost
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yume wavewave

pearl breach
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Hi surajj

scarlet fulcrum
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Also other elite ops as miniboss

noble pewter
regal frost
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aww

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you found the pramanix 850 last time, I was hoping you could work your magic again lol

elder flume
noble pewter
rapid junco
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Now I'm patiently cm mode ya

noble pewter
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Maybe use brain n try figure out how to work without 1 of the op, I dunno how is arclight for now PtiloThink maybe when time comes I will understand it n can suggest alternative RedOmegaLul

lime lantern
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any easy clear for 12-20

full terrace
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100/100

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😂

queen axle
lime lantern
queen axle
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so this is how this stage was meant to be played

regal frost
full terrace
lime lantern
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😔

full terrace
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It was part of my 0 investment series, there was a stage not possible to be done on Adverse with E0 Lv1 free units so

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You study how it is done and then use the knowledge for your own clear

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Is what I'm saying

lime lantern
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what's the main difference with adverse

full terrace
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Positioning

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And slightly higher stats

queen axle
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more base stats(20% more was it)

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mainly

full terrace
lime lantern
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mm yeah i have pr much 0 melee units

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will have to do ling abuse

full terrace
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This was drawn for that person

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With his squad

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But positioning is more or less like that

lime lantern
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right yea so i can start off with ines here? or do i not want to break both boxes

full terrace
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Not both boxes

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Only one

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You want to funnel that top-left Damazti

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To the mid lane on the left

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If you break both boxes

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Damazti will just waltz through thst newly opened path

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To your right side blue box right away

lime lantern
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this way does both damaztis go left side

full terrace
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All Damazti want to go the right side to enter blue box through the left side mid lanes

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As long as you didnt break top-left blue box

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And the boxes to the left of your blue boxes

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You see those boxes?

lime lantern
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Like this?

full terrace
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Yes

lime lantern
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yeah my main problem was left side

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dont have melee units that can lanehold that side

full terrace
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The boxes you dont break are the top-left most

lime lantern
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that was before te trilby ashers

full terrace
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And the 2 to the left of your blue boxes

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Yeah Trilby Ashers are a bit of problem

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You need to either

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Split box

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Or

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Have a Defender to catch their dash

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Splitboxing would be something like

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You let it come to your Defender

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But before it gets blocked by your Defender

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You deploy a unit on top of it

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Now it's blocked by this unit, but it's in the range of your Defender

civic bear
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or

full terrace
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When it dashes, it will be caught by your Defender

lime lantern
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no the problem wasnt really the dash

civic bear
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3 laternos there

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just have one of them inside range

lime lantern
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my units just dont live to see the dash

full terrace
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Or that yea

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And Lemuen mark

civic bear
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lemuen s3 i assume

lime lantern
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ye

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unmodded but should be fine

civic bear
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if you just can get one of them

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while they sit there

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lemuen kill 3 of em with aoe

pearl compass
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Last Damasti clone will try to go through blockages from left

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So you're on timer

full terrace
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The play is basically grouping up those clones

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On the left

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And then Lemuen S3 nuke them

lime lantern
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uhhs hould i borrow wis'adel or ling

full terrace
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They will die pretty fast

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You borrow Shu if you have the dps 😂

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Ling consumes too much deploy slot

civic bear
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dps wise should be enough with exu+lemuen

lime lantern
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hm yeah shu sounds good

full terrace
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Also Shu can loop Trilby

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When they come just activate her S3 and loop them

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Your Lemu will do massive massive damage on Damazti

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Just group them together

civic bear
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exu s2 can also be a "healer"

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shit rotates so fast

lime lantern
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something like this?

cyan plover
full terrace
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I would face Exu down

lime lantern
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what about the uhh

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ranged guys

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they do alot of dmg

full terrace
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Also there are some snipers reducing DP per ammo

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Coming from top right

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Exu might eat some bullets

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Your Spot needs to heal her up

civic bear
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isnt it better to

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swap exu lemuen

lime lantern
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she takes like 3 shots if her barrier isn't up

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lemon is way too squishy to be anywhere near those snipers i think

full terrace
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Also works yea

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Exu will mark for her anyway

civic bear
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thats why you put leuen 1 tile left

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and dont have the defenders side by side

full terrace
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Good point

lime lantern
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also the snipers come from both bottom and top right i think

civic bear
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smth like this

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prevents lemuen getting hit

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and make sure she can hit both lane

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exu can be more aggressive top left of shu instead and kills everything before it walks to right side

lime lantern
full terrace
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Oh and you might need a bit of healing during Damazti drones as well

lime lantern
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the what now

full terrace
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Right side looking pretty fragile without Medics

lime lantern
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hmm yeah and pti doesnt reach lemeun if i put her bottom side

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and gets sniped if i put her besides lemon

full terrace
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Left side if you activate Shu during that you'd be fine

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But pay attention to the timing

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Also your Shu will most likely have a 0 Defense

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Very very soon

cyan plover
# lime lantern

What site is this again? Been a long ass while since I used that.

lime lantern
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prts.map

cyan plover
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cheers

lime lantern
lime lantern
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or no

full terrace
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You can

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Break away

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Bottom left is kinda whatever once the 2nd Damazti goes to the middle

wary shuttle
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what non 6 star options are there for healing the aoe true damage blasts on mt-s-5. looking for quercus alternatives as I don't have her

lime lantern
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oh wait i forgot

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was i supposed to face her right

full terrace
lime lantern
full terrace
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Yep

lime lantern
full stream
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man they are getting bodied

lime lantern
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the normal mobs are just shredding through my defenders

full terrace
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You lacking plenty of healings if you ask me

lime lantern
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i got furthest with shu on the right then failed for obv reasons

civic bear
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do shu on the right then

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left side let exu solo it with just normal defenders to hold line

lime lantern
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mk

civic bear
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let the boss go around and block on the right might as well

fringe solstice
lime lantern
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facing left here leaves bottom lane open

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but facing down breaks the box

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or should i just break the box anyway since im blocking it

civic bear
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move 2 tile to the left

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and facing down?

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ines can destroy the top box if u need

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or was it canta

lime lantern
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oh the trilbys go middle anyway ReedBean didnt know that

civic bear
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but yeah exu should be safe up left of the defender there

lime lantern
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let me try

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this stage is tanking my fps dafuq

lime lantern
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i think i need another defender infront of gummy, she dies

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either that or i sack pti left and put her right

civic bear
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didnt u have

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the laterano defender

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is he higher level than gummy

lime lantern
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he's e1 i think

civic bear
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or spot

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ah nvm then

lime lantern
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e1 lvl (50?

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idk

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lv20

civic bear
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oh yeha ptilo should be up

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on previous exu position

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dont have units adjacent to each other

lime lantern
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there are just so many units coming from the bottom side ReedBean

civic bear
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this is after lemuen s3 aafter u stack the mobs?

full terrace
civic bear
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only use lemuen s3 after lanes are like at 3 blocks and 4th enemies is walkinto their range

full terrace
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But anyway, just use your Shu

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I mean activate her skill

civic bear
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but yeah shu is looping those enemies

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cant leak

lime lantern
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leaked ReedBean maybe i should leave bottom left box alone

fringe solstice
# lime lantern

Iirc my clear I used thorns on the right side. Although I used mlynar borrow instead of ling ReedBean He taunts the high attack physical skill the damazti uses, if you have issues with deployment. Also his skill cd lines up with the damazti invul decently

lime lantern
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my thorns is ass ohno

fringe solstice
lime lantern
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sl7

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mod0

fringe solstice
full terrace
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I mean yeah, letting Damazti go to the right side is putting pressure on that side, you have to find a more precise timing for Shu

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And heal harder

lime lantern
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uhhh maybe silence?

full terrace
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Also right side is lacking a bit of dps

lime lantern
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ya

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lemon skill is coming every 2 decades

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unmodded

full terrace
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Maybe uh..

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Your Lappland

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She can block and she can also help with dps

lime lantern
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In place of gummy?

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ot 2 tiles to the right of gummy

full terrace
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I was thinking behind Spot but then retreat her right before Damazti spawns her drones

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But thats such a risky play

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Idk if you can manage that timing

lime lantern
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isnt spot left side

full terrace
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Err not Spot

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Shu

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Sorry

lime lantern
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ah

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uhhh

full terrace
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But she needs to be retreated

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Before drones tho

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Otherwise everyone dies from stacked damage

fringe solstice
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uh this sound crazy but you could borrow mlynar use his skill right side then use exu2 s3 to spawn him left side. I think eckogen's clear uses a similar strategy but requires more stalling since mlynar is the only major dps.

lime lantern
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when does she spawn drones

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thorns aint assassinating anybody he gets 1v1d by a spy

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maybe wisadel borrow

full terrace
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No way

lime lantern
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right face down left side exu takes care of the ashers and others

full terrace
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Everything will leak without Shu there

lime lantern
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ah true ReedBean

full terrace
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You dont lack dps

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Dont borrow Wis

lime lantern
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could try some s3 shenanigans but its Sl7

fringe solstice
lime lantern
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yes

full terrace
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Hmm the third Damazti will break your blue box on the left

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Cant funnel all of them to the right side

lime lantern
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the THIRD

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oh man

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is it time for ling

cyan plover
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Ling's a pain but I think atp she may be less stressful than what you're trying to cook ReedBean

noble pewter
regal frost
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yeah can only borrow 1, sail and nian both seem irreplaceable for 880

lime lantern
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i think thers a ling ines 2op but idk if my ines is good enough

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last time i tried i missed some dp breakpoints

cyan plover
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you can compensate

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2ops means you got 10 more ops you can replace

fringe solstice
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It is working so far but you will need another medic I'm pretty sure

cyan plover
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You can use it as a guideline and whatever the 10 free slots is you use it as a panic stuff.

lime lantern
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i have err silence i guess

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good enough?

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silence and pti

noble pewter
cyan plover
regal frost
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don't think I can test till cc is here in a few months

noble pewter
fringe solstice
# lime lantern good enough?

I think so you want silence to heal spot and exusiai. you will need someone below spot next to the boxes like thorns/lappland/ sankta miksaparato.

noble pewter
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I think all the clear use saileach just cause higher base stat but I don't see her play much tanking role or anything crazy, so likely u borrow nian is better n try replace saileach with just way to get dp

fringe solstice
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spot skill and silence drone should be able to help out whoever is there

lime lantern
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is silence drone e1 or e2

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mines e1

regal frost
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I could try that

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might bring bag or Texas for talent

regal frost
noble pewter
lime lantern
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ill try give it a shot soon

regal frost
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at least that gives me some wiggle room then

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thx lego

fringe solstice
full terrace
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Exu on Damazti duty

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Damazti comes ~> Exu S2 ~> Damazti summons clone ~> deactivate Exu skill ~> Damazti loses invincibility ~> Exu S2 ~> Damazti summons clone

lime lantern
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who's the healer ont he left idk who that is

full terrace
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Repeat the process

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Left is Ansel only, you can bring any Medic

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Take Silence

lime lantern
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mmm alright thanks ill tyr

full terrace
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As long as your activate Exu skill

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When Damazti loses its invincibility

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Exu will kill it instantly

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While ensuring your Shu does not die

noble pewter
full terrace
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By giving her HP shields

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You need to find your Lemuen timing tho

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Mine is also unmodded

lime lantern
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huh so right side doesnt leak

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im just skill issuing with lemuen

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ill try

fringe solstice
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iirc you place defenders then lemuen then press skill as soon as the spy is revealed

lime lantern
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i do try to wait abit for snipers

full terrace
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Find the timing

exotic grove
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can I clear this without breaking out the big E2 ops
struggling with the 4th vector stage w/mechanist and need everyone I can use over there
https://krooster.com/u/radiostatic
Because I saw someone clear the harder version with ethan gummy and laplu and I was struggling to take out the golem with the same combo
#salt-mines message

lofty obsidian
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you can use lapluma for this

exotic grove
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which one?

lofty obsidian
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the one with dublin fireball caster

exotic grove
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I used gracebearer for that one?

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I don't understand

lofty obsidian
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wait a sec

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if im not wrong if you put more units in the upper right corner to activate the Gramophone

exotic grove
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how do I deal with the rats? laplu can't handle them without pinecone

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I can record and show u

lofty obsidian
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like uh faster so you can defeat the mudrock colossus

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lapu is fine if you have e2lv1

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use skill2

exotic grove
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did you look at my screenshot

lime lantern
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it looks shorter

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Oh ok dont mind me i didnt click adverse ICANT

exotic grove
cyan plover
lofty obsidian
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*thinking

lime lantern
lofty obsidian
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robin or wulfenite

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their trap can activate the gramophone too

exotic grove
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what level do they have to be? I only have wulfenite e0 lv1

lofty obsidian
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anything will do they wont be attacked

noble pewter
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yes, juggernaut mudrock s2 exist

wary shuttle
# exotic grove

you gotta give pluma more blockers, any summoner would be sufficient I think as a cheap option

lofty obsidian
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you just need to put the traps down and the gramophone will be activated faster

exotic grove
wary shuttle
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I was using mayer for ~5 effective block

lofty obsidian
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i just used laplu e2 im sorry

exotic grove
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omg wulfenite worked
thanks
I didn't even think of using traps to activate it BreezeHappy

lofty obsidian
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tbh i saved wulfenite for like the second one

exotic grove
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hmm good point
I could try with mayer

lofty obsidian
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i used lancet 2 and the jaye cuz i wont be using them anyways

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if you have robin you can use her too

wary shuttle
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its not that much effort to go get robin from record restore

lofty obsidian
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yeah

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isnt robin from mansfield?

wary shuttle
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yeah

lofty obsidian
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cuz robin's traps are auto activation

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wulfenite is not

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you have to manually activate them

wary shuttle
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only way to do the trapmaster strat on the harder version

lofty obsidian
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so the second one where the rats will step through the trap wulfenite is better

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yeah

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btw is robin worth building

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i like azling's art too much but im also running out of lmd

full terrace
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Also where is my thank you

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😏

wary shuttle
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there are niche uses but probably not unless you can afford to build random stuff

lime lantern
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let me pull this off first ohno

pearl compass
exotic grove
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ohh interesting
time to grab sleepy girl ReedBean

lime lantern
lofty obsidian
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eppy girl

lime lantern
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to avoid dying from bottom right snipers

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i just saw one shot take 40% of her hp

lofty obsidian
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robin's so cute she got that outfit art with her raccoon fellows

pearl compass
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Dorothy is quite good.
Ela is... not Trapmaster, but a fucking Elite killer, lol.

lofty obsidian
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dooorothy

pearl compass
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Robin is alright, but 5☆ curse.

lofty obsidian
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i had dorothy in integrated strat once her s2 s3 is good

pearl compass
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If you have better choice, you don't need her.

lofty obsidian
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real tbh i havent build any trapmaster yet

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ulpi and gladiia stole all my resources

lime lantern
elder flume
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MT S 3
anyone got E2 1 S3L7 Blaze2 to test if it kills enemies before they get healed

full terrace
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Does OG Blaze count? :joyplush:

half osprey
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Guys are there other operators that stuns other operators aside from u official and conviction??

elder flume
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Spuria

full terrace
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Entel FRD

elder flume
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because i dont have Entel RedOmegaLul

full terrace
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There is no random Blaze2 to borrow?

half osprey
#

Spuria won't work, I need immediate stun

elder flume
#

this is my Blaze2 at E1 80 rn

full terrace
#

Oh

elder flume
#

i can just E2 her if it kills

full terrace
#

I mean a random one can be borrowed right?

exotic grove
#

I have E2 lv50 S7 blazeter

lime lantern
full terrace
#

If its just SL7

lime lantern
#

let me do that

#

mine takes a year to break box Daijobu

full terrace
lofty obsidian
#

btw for ppl who dont wanna waste their 6 stars on vec-sp02

full terrace
#

Do you have Canta or Plume?

lime lantern
#

i tried canta but she doesnt gen enough dp to put shu down in time

cyan plover
lofty obsidian
full terrace
#

Stack Canta and Myrtle both

#

Canta break box, then retreat

#

Then Myrtle gen DP

elder flume
#

was wondering if random borrows would be too strong but ig i can check if whatever that atk change matters

cyan plover
exotic grove
half osprey
#

The boss isn't exactly counted as elite or leader to be marked on its 1st phase, and Exia kills it too fast to be marked

#

I'll look for work arounds in my strat

elder flume
exotic grove
#

ohh

lofty obsidian
#

pinecone my beloved

lofty obsidian
half osprey
#

Saint. I've tried a strat involving stalling the boss with guardian

#

but lemuen doesn't mark him until the end of its 1st phase

full terrace
#

😒

lofty obsidian
foggy grove
#

it's because she is on sleeping tile

half osprey
#

she was awake

elder flume
#

before boss enters her range?

full terrace
#

What stage is that anyway

#

MT-S-5?

half osprey
#

does the condition needit to enter?

#

yes

lofty obsidian
#

or mtex08

half osprey
#

s 5

full terrace
#

Deploy your Lemu right away she will mark him in time

foggy grove
full terrace
#

Not on the dream tile

#

On the normal tile

lofty obsidian
half osprey
#

I see so its a bug

lofty obsidian
#

oh it's 47 sorry

half osprey
#

right I forgot bout him, I'll adjust my strat right away

lofty obsidian
#

also plume counts too

half osprey
#

I was thinking of using kafka but it states that the boss is immune to it

lofty obsidian
#

oh right

#

whatelse

lime lantern
#

does the second clone bother breaking box

lofty obsidian
#

ines?

lime lantern
#

so i can leave it on 1hp

#

for more ines dp

haughty flower
#

Plume would be the simplest option and the full dp refund also might actually matter since a number of laterano ops are pricey

lofty obsidian
#

ines does bind 5s if im not wrong

lofty obsidian
half osprey
#

I was wondering if there are any atk down effect sabotages so that exia doesn't kill it too quickly

lofty obsidian
#

confession car my beloved

lofty obsidian
haughty flower
#

You could just sit on exia and use bullet time to stop it when boss is low enough.
Don't, like, actually sit on her, you know what I mean.

foggy grove
#

she'll mark it proper

haughty flower
#

Pretty sure the 2op solution is just that.

haughty flower
#

Lemuen faces left from right tile, exia faces right from left tile.

#

From there it's all about skill timing.

haughty flower
half osprey
#

I'll try that one next but I'm trying to use Schwarz

lime lantern
haughty flower
#

The 2 new ops are so busted they literally let you win while facing multiple different ways RedOmegaLul

foggy grove
#

if you put her on dream tile,she won't mark phase 1 no matter what if the boss is on her range prior

half osprey
lime lantern
#

its lemuen moment

haughty flower
#

The biggest problem with the boss is the fact that the god ray is true and by the final revive it's dps is pretty high.

#

Thing is, it never gets it off if it just, you know, dies.

#

And for the 63/64 CM revive exia just baits it and it never gets a second one out to off lemuen.

half osprey
#

Ok I got it to work

full terrace
elder flume
#

18 shots to kill 1 SkadiDaijoubu

cyan plover
cyan plover
elder flume
#

I usually use shifters when i can if it breaks a mechanic

cyan plover
#

Sorry, I see big explosion and correlate it with wis

ember pebble
#

ahhhhhhhh

lime lantern
#

@full terrace ty!! had to 1x to get the timings down

full terrace
#

Congrats there

#

And you are welcome

strange palm
#

So, in the time since this... I was able to find some non-Wis guides to clear challenge mode of EX-5 and EX-6. I feel like I can do challenge mode for EX-7 with my roster, and thanks to some of the guides I have found for non-Wis clears of it, I have a good sense of who to put where for whatever I bring, the issue now is finding out exactly how to put the team together.
If I can put a team together but I'm missing something like Lem's module, or Exu2, I'm willing to borrow either of them. I think the only change I haven't gotten updated in my krooster atm is Exu and Saria being e2lvl70 now, and me promoting Adnachiel to e1lvl26 since I've now realized that he'll activate Lem's passive

lime lantern
queen axle
#

wdym

lime lantern
#

arent i supposed to get the Adverse clear rewards

noble pewter
#

maybe u forgot click adverse PtiloThink

lime lantern
#

it says adverse right there

#

wait theres another clause

#

wth is a confirmed agent

noble pewter
lime lantern
queen axle
elder flume
#

Did you identify every civ

queen axle
#

cuz yeah 3 lp

lime lantern
#

What

queen axle
#

whar

elder flume
#

Its adverse

queen axle
#

oh

#

wait

elder flume
#

They just leaked civs

noble pewter
#

oh, i dunno haha RedOmegaLul

lime lantern
#

ok just checked yeah it is

lime lantern
#

so thats what it means

#

no leaking civs

foggy grove
#

you get 2 op so you did get all the rewards

elder flume
#

You can find what theyre clearing from this

lime lantern
#

true! just missed a plaque and a t5 mat ig

#

man i got a heart attack did i go through that just for it not to be adv ReedBean

crisp bolt
#

You can also tell it's adverse because the layout for 12-20 normal is different ReedBean

haughty flower
crisp bolt
#

Neither have I SwireKek

#

I just read the adverse conditions

haughty flower
#

"Where's Waldo" ahh map differences.
Also forgot how Yesodified the wiki map pics are.

queen axle
#

yesod at it again eating the pixels

cyan plover
#

What’s yesodified

queen axle
#

uhh u probably havent played lob corp

#

so u wouldnt get it

haughty flower
cyan plover
south spindle
#

@queen axle @haughty flower Don't start off topic convo

dusty cedar
#

2 mistype

ember pebble
#

lezzzzzzzzzzz gooooooooooooooooooo

#

MT-S-5 4* only

foggy grove
#

now do cm

haughty flower
#

Evil

foggy grove
#

🙊

haughty flower
#

The 63/64 revive with CM stat bloat genuinely sounds vile.

ember pebble
rocky anvil
#

how big is the aoe radius of that laterano rocket guy on MT-S-3?

haughty flower
hollow epoch
#

how do you kill spines if you do an exuialter start in is5? the tickets are vanguard sniper so theres no easy arts damage to kill them

haughty flower
narrow pendant
#

I mean, exu herself kills the spines fineGGNoddersHyper

hollow epoch
#

really? i havent actually experimented enough with high dph phys starters, but if so then it does simplify things

haughty flower
#

Also that, pretty sure exu damage outscales the spines.

narrow pendant
#

Exu has more than 1.2k dph even at e1
So

haughty flower
#

She gets a notable atk muliplier on s2 and it's enough to be dealing more than scratch damage to spines.

narrow pendant
#

Exu2 start is my new fav

#

So i kmow

#

Exu talon

hollow epoch
#

yeah im trying to develop a non walter start since im mega sick of it

narrow pendant
#

🥹

torpid prawn
#

Tip for mt-s-3 CM If you use the wisadel-Eblana-Myrtle start:
You are able to start it even with pot 1 wisadel + necrass (no dp pots) cuz myrtle can tank 1 hit from the 1st enemy but you need to be fast on deploying and activating skill.
If myrtle dies its game over for the other burst/fast redeploy operators

haughty flower
#

Especially if you set up it so that you steal aspd from your vg or smth.

#

Maybe I should play IS5 again.

gritty moon
#

Guys how the hell am I supposed to beat jt8-3

haughty flower
#

Seeing your current team and the 6 stars in your operator list would be nice, though. Can't help if we don't even know what you're trying with.

wary shuttle
#

is there a 5 star only clear for vec-08

haughty flower
# wary shuttle is there a 5 star only clear for vec-08

Quick arkrec check confirms 1 does exist, tequila + rockrock + scene. Uses a couple different buffs, don't think they're currently available.
There is also, however, a 4* only buffless clear for vec-08, albeit needing 13 ops so using the borrow slot as well. That suggests 5* only buffless should be possible and a clear probably exists.

hollow epoch
#

Im in the pretty unenviable situation where i missed the medic tickets for is5 ending 2 and now my approach is forced to be amiya (at least i got civilight trinket). Which form, what strat for approach? Im running talon and difficulty 10.

#

I also have s3m3ed weedy if that helps although zero weight related trinkets or stuff to help

wary shuttle
#

probably caster, I dont think you can do it in one deploy

haughty flower
#

This sounds like a medicmiya s2 angle given at d10 theresis is pretty fraudulent.

#

You just chip down phase 1, the second it hits phase 2 so long as you've stocked up on relics you should just be able to press s2 and watch theresis explode.

#

And if not just toss down another dps next to them and worry away at their hp while medicmiya's doing that.

hollow epoch
#

lost run to very stupid misplay in a fragment

#

but im curious to see how to address in the future since i think no medic ticket might be an issue in the future

astral cosmos
elder flume
#

That 1 sword stopped midway Bnuuy

haughty flower
astral cosmos
#

i looked at the lineup and immediately thought 1p relay

haughty flower
hollow epoch
#

ik the cn competitive players also use amiya on d15 2+4+5 as well, do they use castermiya on that and 2 cycle or something?

astral cosmos
#

they do use castermiya

#

but tbh since this is d10 it's kind of a fraud stage
i've had wacky clears on d12 with warmy/bobbing

dusty sphinx
#

This strat keeps barely not working, gladia keeps dying in endgame... any tips?

#

Giraffe keeps killing gladia after electricity keeps hitting gladia

elder flume
noble pewter
#

If its nirvana program u want to bait the atks by deploying fresh blockers

glass monolith
verbal meteor
#

hello between zuo le and degenbrecher who should i build?

glass monolith
#

Didnt use either but i think Zuo le is strong against not stun immune content with his S3 spam

worn root
#

degen is more comfortable where as zuo le you need to constantly manage his hp and barrier

dusty sphinx
#

Degen imo

full stream
#

degen was used in IS🥱 and is still an ok pick today

#

is4 gvg degen start

dusty sphinx
#

Spec guard u mean

#

🥀 💔

full stream
#

confusing with is5

dusty sphinx
#

No yu is doable?

verbal meteor
#

maybe i should build both, degen first, then zuo le for Immune content situations Thanks!

worn root
glass monolith
#

not immune content Dont be me who did stun build into stun immune ending of IS FrankaWheeze

haughty flower
#

Degen's role as burst DPS is kind of threatened by Liezi Alter, who's technically better at either instant damage or sustained DPS.

worn root
#

the giraffe isn't immune actually, I got a funny idea

glass monolith
#

Oh you ||finally|| awake, how is supporter only suffering going?

dusty sphinx
#

Degen has 2 block which is useful... sometimes

worn root
glass monolith
#

1 block can be blessing at times, like chapter 9 to split those elites pairs

full stream
#

just use s3 burst one down and duel the other

haughty flower
#

Just Sakiko It

worn root
#

I accidently picked up istina instead of catherine LMAO

glass monolith
haughty flower
#

God, thank goodness there's no anime girls in AK, right

sharp pine
#

how to ms s 5 cm?

worn root
#

hell

narrow pendant
#

Lemon, shu, exu

#

Done

lime lantern
#

no need shu either

sharp pine
#

i dont have shu

lime lantern
#

yea no need shu

glass monolith
#

Just because 2 op is possible doesn't mean we cant gang up on issue HellaKek

foggy grove
#

shu not needed

sharp pine
#

so whats the plan just s2 lemon?

narrow pendant
#

Lemon shu exu
Exu lemon wis

foggy grove
#

just bring another dps/healer if you want to be extra safe

lime lantern
#

s3 preferrably

narrow pendant
#

Bunch of ways

lime lantern
#

the boss killing part is entirely lemuen

sharp pine
lime lantern
#

you can use basically everyone else to kill the rest

hollow wadi
#

just bring more units to deal with left
be sure to make correct timing for exu2

full stream
sharp pine
#

woah

foggy grove
#

global is talent

lime lantern
tough gazelle
#

this is insane

glass monolith
#

Archer bro, nooooo

full stream
#

uproar a woman if i remember correctly not that a "bro" wouldnt fit but "gal" would work

sharp pine
lime lantern
#

so all your dps pointing left on the right works Nyaruhodo

#

keep in mind not doing 2op means theres no cosplayers to bait for snipers though so youll have to tank or bait that

nocturne cove
#

mechanist shield is hit count yeah?

glass monolith
#

50 hits, 20 second downtime

mental mesa
haughty flower
mental mesa
#

Uh I don't have wisadel and I'm trying to farm MT-8

haughty flower
#

Whoops, totally misread. For mt-8...let me check.

foggy grove
#

your team is horribly underleveled regardless

haughty flower
#

Either way it's going to be a struggle. Your team has 0 levels for this.

mental mesa
haughty flower
#

MT-4 and up are basically meant for an e1 team and up. You can brute force it on the back of borrowed supports but farming setups aren't easy.

mental mesa
#

Ahhh alright alright

haughty flower
astral cosmos
#

i can't do 3op MT-10 and it frustrates me so fucking much

#

why does ayerscarpe have to be so fucking slop

haughty flower
#

Dude you're actually never gonna finish the S stages.

haughty flower
mental mesa
astral cosmos
#

no this skill is bad

haughty flower
#

Though not acknowledged in-game, enemies blocked by Ayerscarpe will also be struck by the additional Arts attacks.

astral cosmos
#

i'm using s1

#

because s2 does 0 damage

haughty flower
#

8 has a miniboss that is the spawn of Satan.

foggy grove
#

you can farm mt 9 or 7

mental mesa
glass monolith
#

If only Frostleaf modulue expanded her range to Thorns S3 CeobeConfused

haughty flower
#

No I'm joking with Rechord, not you.

astral cosmos
#

shalem is also so fucking slop

glass monolith
#

Still better S2 than Amiyacaster

astral cosmos
#

he has great dps but self implodes too fast

mental mesa
haughty flower
#

Shalem when he self harms for mediocre gain

#

"The troupe let me do it!"

astral cosmos
#

mediocre gain in question being higher dps than surtr

foggy grove
#

idr lol

glass monolith
#

Farm stages this event is 8-10, 7 is like alternative for people who gave up autoing 8+ CeobeConfused

haughty flower
astral cosmos
#

yes that's what's slop

#

but the sloppiest of all is the hp drain

#

that makes him not survive the boss

haughty flower
#

This thing cycled so badly I think there was one f5 IS2 stage where I literally only ever got it off once when he was the only ground op I put.

astral cosmos
#

so i'm literally out of options rn

#

quercus can't outheal

#

= nobody can

haughty flower
#

How did queercat even end up on your badknights team

glass monolith
#

FAKE BADKNIGHTS

haughty flower
#

Polar bear in Arlington Texas

astral cosmos
#

that isn't badknights

#

it's 3op 5* only, for arkrec

worn root
#

every operator is bad if you look hard enough

glass monolith
#

Except manticore uWu

haughty flower
astral cosmos
#

4* have 4op clears already anyway

#

current strat is quercus ayerscarpe shalem

haughty flower
astral cosmos
#

into 0 healing and death

haughty flower
#

Arts fragility to try and burst before the 0 healing kills you

astral cosmos
#

you're underestimating boss atk
it brings shalem to like 1/10 hp in 1 hit

#

i've only found quercus to outheal that

glass monolith
#

During H7 Patriot i had Warf tank spear (Shamare's ATK down) only to murder herself with S2 degen FrankaWheeze

#

Quercus DR should mean you not going to 1/10 in 1 hit uWu

haughty flower
astral cosmos
#

already used

elfin river
astral cosmos
#

if i use bassline only he won't heal shalem to full
so shalem will explode

haughty flower
#

Look up Exu alter's skills if you still don't understand. Should clear it up.

astral cosmos
haughty flower
#

Uhhh medicmiya s1 already attempted?

astral cosmos
#

wat does it do i forgot

elfin river
astral cosmos
#

i don't have medicmiya so will have to borrow, although medicmiya s2 was already used

elfin river
#

So all I need to do is just set the shit there, and then hit the S3 button?

#

Kind of similar to Cut3tr S3.

haughty flower
astral cosmos
#

holy sp cost

haughty flower
#

S2 in this case won't cut it since you need it twice.

astral cosmos
#

doubt i'll be able to kill both boss phases before shalem ayers just implode

#

shalem has to charge his skill twice at least

haughty flower
#

Only other way I can think of to outheal since Amiyi healing output is quite good during that time.

#

Uh...you already tried Rose Salt s2?

astral cosmos
#

i've tried papyrus but aoe/chain medic healing offskill does jackshit to outheal the dmg shalem takes

glass monolith
#

Damn Lemuen does boss dirty in this event CeobeConfused

astral cosmos
pure orchid
#

Rechord u can just borrow lemuen
hope this helps 👍

astral cosmos
#

qyuri u can just explode

#

hope this helps 👍

pure orchid
astral cosmos
#

im about to fucking give up

#

i have to contend with
shalem rng
fear rng

pure orchid
#

pack it up and js redeem yourself at s-5 bro 😭

glass monolith
#

Bro why boss cheats when changing phase? RedOmegaLul Bitch uses normal attack twice in row nuking my Lemon

worn root
#

I rlly fucking hate this stage

sly drift
#

Me too.

limpid ore
queen axle
sly drift
spiral prism
wise minnow
#

How do i brutally murder 2nd faust

#

I mean the stage where there only faust as boss and no mephi present

queen axle
#

just wait for his invincibility to go away

glass monolith
kindred oak
#

im having trouble with MT S 5 CM
in the last boss revived with 3 saint right?
now the question i want to ask is the saint taunt your operator ? why sometimes my lemuen attack the saint not the boss

elder flume
#

lowest def

sly drift
#

Lower def probably. Or closer to blue box)

glass monolith
#

If you mark saint then Lemuen will focus it to death because lowest DEF among targeted

tropic current
#

Im really close here. I dont understand i kill both at same time but the mechanist revive again???

#

Mechanist only have 2 phase right?

glass monolith
#

In phase 2 you just kill mechanist. VEC-12 adds repeat of phase change laser spam on 50% HP

tropic current
pure orchid
#

wait is that for fucking real

queen axle
#

after the mechanist dies giraffe still alive and can leak

#

no

pure orchid
#

no no i dont care

#

as long as i get to focus

#

thats all good to me

queen axle
tropic current
queen axle
#

yeah u still need to kill giraffe

pure orchid
#

i can kill mechanist then worry abt giraffe later

fiery carbon
glass monolith
tropic current
#

Damn this is hard

pure orchid
#

surely doing both is easier right

tropic current
glass monolith
#

No he just loop around map like 3-4 times

tropic current
#

I mean usually it just go around bottom lane, but sometimes it goes up

pure orchid
#

after it loops a specific number of times

glass monolith
#

I actually never counted his loops

pure orchid
#

independent of revives

fiery carbon
tropic current
#

So basically i must kill mechanist fast?

glass monolith
#

As soon as mechanist dead you can finally kill dog for good

worn root
#

idk if I can do this anymore

pure orchid
#

if its mechanist killing my strat then ill just stall giraffe forever and focus mechanist

tropic current
#

Ok ok i understand will try again. If only i have shu... So rip

fiery carbon
#

Top as long as u have like a lvl 50 or so guardian defender s1 lvl 7 ur good

tropic current
sly drift
queen axle
#

ulpi can tank him if u have glad

#

u need glad tho

#

he gets oneshot if no glad buff

glass monolith
#

I had S2L7 Gladiia Silence Alter Eyja sustain him + Spalter buff. It was uncanny close

pure orchid
#

what if i use warf s1

#

am i cooking

glass monolith
#

960 x 24 times is so fast i am not sure heals even land. Oh i think i heard someone Tyue S2 him

sly drift
pure orchid
#

S2????

glass monolith
pure orchid
#

wtf

glass monolith
#

Last time i used Silence Alter S3 was POO to tank Dorothy with +440% ATK RedOmegaLul

noble pewter
sly drift
#

That giraffe is actually well made enemy it prevent you to stall the boss for too long DocSmile

glass monolith
#

Just give me something to stall it between Clownslayers S3s

worn root
#

cause my only gameplan is to fucking stall

glass monolith
#

Just do whatever you did to Bnuuyleave to doggo HellaKek

worn root
#

I also need to somehow set up top to stall mechanist

#

which rn, feels imposible

sly drift
#

Well.. Stalling mechanist itself is insanely difficult because phase 2 he still one shot maxed hoshi S2M3Mod3 with some healers

worn root
#

I managed to stall mechanist phase 1 with roberta, shamare, virt and quercus and phase 2 with the same squad just with catherine instead

noble pewter
worn root
#

for VEC8

sly drift
noble pewter
glass monolith
queen axle
#

shrimply and skillfully have those ops

worn root
#

I can do it when mechanist spawns but the problem is roberta is only gonna be solo dps'ing unless I use virt s3 extended range

#

which might have to be the strat for me

tropic current
#

Finally guysss, thanks for the advice!

worn root
#

for bot path idk how I'm gonna handle giraffe, might have to cycle summons or smth

torpid prawn
#

For s-5 normal mode
Good news is: Lemuen s2 m2 no module + wisadel is able to pass the 1st phase.
The bad news is: slight skill mistiming and lemuen wastes the 3rd shot which results in not being able to spawn kill the 2nd phase

tropic current
sly drift
#

How is that working RedOmegaLul

#

How is that enough*

noble pewter
tropic current
sly drift
#

Yea.. I guess Ulpian is Ulpianing

queen axle
#

yeah ill just give up on the medal its impossible with my squad GoldenglowSad

#

for the thorns strat cant do it cause no thorns and no tank good enough to tank giraffe

#

so if i borrow thorns i cant tank giraffe

noble pewter
maiden hound
#

save me... e0 p1 puzzle

queen axle
earnest bobcat
ancient oasis
#

Finally done. didnt really use the sui siblings but it helped me with SP regen. expect of course for Yu. Goat

worn root
#

Plus she isnt built up

earnest bobcat
queen axle
worn root
queen axle
#

and im borrowing yu already so Bnuuy

queen axle
#

my acc is like 1 month old btw

#

am i even supposed to be doing these stuff RedOmegaLul

sly drift
#

Not getting trimmed is not the end of the world. CardAyy

queen axle
#

yeah but !

#

i was not prepared for the bs vec 12 was cooking

earnest bobcat
#

You've gotten a lot further than a lot of other 1 month old players! Yay

#

Probably.

queen axle
#

if other f2ps ye

#

i only got my first e2 6 star at day 3

#

well ig its just unfortunate i didnt get blessed with a good tank

pearl breach
lapis hornet
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he's a lot further than mi

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I'm 5 weeks old alr

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i mean its not hard if u got the right units

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With the right unitsReedBean ReedBean

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That’s the hardest part