Or I guess I something misses to kill robogiraffe then to kill Mechanist easily.
#strategy
pearl compass
sly drift
Idk how ppl did it but Even with duo Lumen + Ejya isn't nearly enough to make maxed Hoshiguma perma stall.
glass monolith
Because Giraffe need mechanist not alive
glass monolith
You kill them both, then you kill mechanist, then you finish giraffe
pearl compass
You kill them both, then you kill mechanist, then you finish giraffe
I FUCKING TRYING TO.
🥹
Really idk at this point
glass monolith
Isn't it obvious <:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
I didn't read boss until after VEC-08 during which I had Y module on Gladiia 
pearl compass
Sciel pops up his shield first
Omg
I hate this map
Even in start I must pay attention
glass monolith
I find out phase 2 no longer 3x3 nuclear bombing you just by accident
sly drift
I hate this map
I heard Vec ex 4 is much worse
glass monolith
Indigo, Ethan, 100 attack speed, fuck them
pearl compass
I heard Vec ex 4 is much worse<:RedOmegaLul:1002227534622117918>
We'll have +100% ATK and +100 ASPD at this point
sly drift
We'll have +100% ATK and +100 ASPD at this point
Nice.. that balanced out the insanity
pearl compass
Ok, then I need to figure out how to deal with Lancer fast
sly drift
What squad anyway
glass monolith
I more afraid of EX-3 Rosmontis without stun disable buffs
pearl compass
Because I guess I cannot press Exu2 skill just like that.
pearl compass
What squad anyway
stuck ermine
this is yu pull mechanist giraffe to middle strat yes?
glass monolith
Bro what you need all this DP for 
pearl compass
this is yu pull mechanist giraffe to middle strat yes?
Yes
sly drift
How can you defend any defender with only mon3 to begin with.
pearl compass
Bro what you need all this DP for <:HellaHands:888785522439389194>
Everything.
pearl compass
How can you defend any defender with only mon3 to begin with.
How I'm supposed to reach them?
I do not have EyjaAlter
If you worried
sly drift
glass monolith
Go go Purestream
ember pebble
kekw
pearl compass
Go go Purestream
🥹
stuck ermine
pearl compass
stuck ermine
saria s2 works well
queen axle
stuck ermine
so yeah i think this can stall?
queen axle
yeah u have shu
glass monolith
What in the unholy spawncamping
pearl compass
queen axle
sly drift
Did you win this?
stuck ermine
yes
stuck ermine
pearl compass
I feel myself so weak
sly drift
Dunno what's going on during the run but spawncamp true damage sounds clever.
glass monolith
And then there is me wondering how the F that even works
queen axle
queen axle
And then there is me wondering how the F that even works
u just time yu skill to drag both giraffe and mechanist
and use shu skill so they wont break apart on phase 2
stuck ermine
well the boss spawn at the same time so they can be teleported
queen axle
yeah
they do
perfect setup for yu
u need shu for this tho
else they will seperate
queen axle
yeah giraffe will run
stuck ermine
so i added saria instead of frd
pearl compass
I could repeat that guide, imo
If Saria subs Shu.
Thankfully I have ReedAlter.
Without Mod tho.
@remote atlas hey Ecko, can Saria substitute Shu?
hasty spruce
Does it make a difference when reed has a mod
pearl compass
Does it make a difference when reed has a mod
10% more heal
Maybe they will be vital to me
Lol
glass monolith
<@125789467226275840> hey Ecko, can Saria substitute Shu?
Isn't stuff 0 sanity just try
pearl compass
Isn't stuff 0 sanity just try <:HellaHands:888785522439389194>
Too busy for trying actually
Probably won't today then
wary wing
watching the video should make clear if you can sub Shu for saria
pearl compass
Yeah, I see that option as well
Until there's none talent buffs required.
OH MY FUCKING GOD
12% MAXHP
ALL
It's even better to fucking subs EyjaAlter then.
Lol.
I don't fucking believe it.
And I don't have Nian either to provide fucking HP.
Just.
queen axle
queen axle
vector 12 is that serious
dusty cedar
Vec 12 can't be that bad man
Why would devs do this 😔
Sry I'm just nervous for it lol
pearl compass
The only option I have is put Hoshi on roboline.
And tank with Saria with damage red
If Yu somehow failes.
Idk.
He will run away anyway at this point.
But basically I cannot do anything at this point. Just fucking watch.
worn root
Lets see if this helps
wary wing
the fact ppl can clear it with 4 ops means it isn't that bad
what was the record for DoS S3 stage?
dusty cedar
4 ops doesn't sound surprising
queen axle
the fact ppl can clear it with 4 ops means it isn't that bad
its an operator check but yeah its easy if u have the ops
dusty cedar
Look at all the busted ops we have nowadays
I bet your ass it has at least Yu, Exalter Wis and Shu in there
Or Ulpian
wary wing
Yu Shu exu2 reedic
dusty cedar
bruh I'm holding back from asking fck ahh questions like do you NEED eyja
Like this is strategy, it's a personal preference thing
pearl compass
bruh I'm holding back from asking fck ahh questions like *do you NEED eyja*
Yes. +8% HP is the main reason.
dusty cedar
Yes. +8% HP is the main reason.
Thanks doc!
dusty cedar
Yeah but srsly why they made the boss hit like a truck
pearl compass
Since... everytime
dusty cedar
Wdu mean my eyja shining and skalter buffed s3 Hoshi still dies to him
wary wing
phase 2?
dusty cedar
No don't ask why I'm using s3
pearl compass
But for Harold for example Ulpipi is hard counter.
wary wing
that's weird
dusty cedar
AND skill issue 
wary wing
my nian under shining s2 holds perfectly fine
dusty cedar
Oh don't worry
You're not like me, putting my healers right next to said tanker
Took me later to realize his aoe was killing them bruh
Anyways arknights
topaz tapir
huh-
how do i
tame rain
So many of the Annihilation Simulation clears with few high operators use Thorns S3 is there a replacement for him?
I dont really wanna level him I feel like I have other more impactful operators I could leve before.
tame rain
Right. What are some other options?
foggy grove
i mean what you have lol and which anni is this
tame rain
Dossoles Water Gate
foggy grove
huh-
how do i
spawncamp the sniper box
tame rain
These I what I have in terms of Guards.
foggy grove
it doesn't have to be guard
tame rain
True true
tame rain
Issue is he holds the top lane or whatver solo
topaz tapir
spawncamp the sniper box
Using what
Also what do I use to defend left side
I have also replaced Gravel for Kroos base
foggy grove
Using what
Also what do I use to defend left side
I have also replaced Gravel ...
exu2
left box idle for sometimes
you can just put thorns/blaze/click there
tame rain
Dont own Blaze but the others I do.
foggy grove
no it's for the other guy
foggy grove
you can just replace thorns with other constant dmg like nara/logos/typhon and stuff
or cycle your burst dps
full stream
ok so how do i do this with no ranged units
Make sure left side u put the melee units as close as possible to red box to block instigator(allows "civs" to bypass blockers)
foggy grove
lol idr which map is that
full stream
Chapter 12 shit can't remember the sub stage tho
lime lantern
yeah i mean atm im just being kileld by hat guys
glass monolith
ulpi s2 or s3 for vec12?
I had S2L7 + Gladiia X3 + Silence alter + Eyja Alt + Spalter + Skadi on that 
lime lantern
12-14
glass monolith
Chapter 12 shit can't remember the sub stage tho
I remember it, AE bans all ranged tiles
pure orchid
jfc im bringing s2 then and hoping for the best
full stream
yeah i mean atm im just being kileld by hat guys
Ulpianus s3 borrow just s3 when tribly ashers are around
glass monolith
It is Lording time, Lord all over them
full stream
The left side needs your guardian+a decent lane holder
maiden hound
ela borrow
full stream
The right side only needs to support ulpianus
full stream
ela borrow
That could work yes.
queen axle
ok so how do i do this with no ranged units
the heck was that again
lime lantern
The right side only needs to support ulpianus
what about fede
x
i can borrow ela too
or ulpi
idk
full stream
what about fede
Ehhh,it depends whether he has skill up or not since it's offensive it's harder to time it than ulpi s3
lime lantern
ah
lime lantern
alright ulpi it is
lime lantern
And he can't tank ashers
mmm still rough he doesnt tank much
full stream
0 def gameplay
foggy grove
use ground lemuen degen
queen axle
mmm still rough he doesnt tank much
try zuole s2?
queen axle
hes quite rare in support actually
full stream
anyone ahve him up
Ascalon?
queen axle
i think everyone in friend id that has him up has quitted LOL
so u gotta ask around personally
lime lantern
doesn't she die tho
full stream
doesn't she die tho
She is an ambusher
She doesn't block the ashers just slow and kill them
tame rain
Love how my Wisadel randomly died and some one else died and I leaked 1 unit
End me now.
queen axle
next time that happens pause and force close game it will refund 100% sanity
lime lantern
She doesn't block the ashers just slow and kill them
there are ranged units that attack her
full stream
U have bait? Or put her near spot for healing
full stream
This is quite the brutal roster check for you
lime lantern
This is quite the brutal roster check for you<:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
you dont say
also uhh
didnt work
thorns is dogwater
atleast mine is
civilians leak
pearl compass
OH GO F--- YOURSELF, BEACH
But.
At least Phase 2.
WOW
I SURVIVED ENOUGH TO SEE PHASE 2
WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK
glass monolith
Now time for celebrating -1 block laser show
lime lantern
OH GO F--- YOURSELF, BEACH
where exu s3 
pearl compass
Now I need somehow to increase survivability during that thing.
pearl compass
where exu s3 <:SpathodeaWisdom:1190630306684878969>
I actually used S2.
Just for rabbit cunt.
lime lantern
ok dont word it like that
full stream
thorns is dogwater
No my double max modded thorns is also trash
lime lantern
No my double max modded thorns is also trash<:ReedBean:1151601576700559390>
ok yeah thorns is just trash
pearl compass
I think Yu could survive enough without falling out
lime lantern
full stream
Anyway,what happened? Did ascalon killed the ashers or what?
lime lantern
I think Yu could survive enough without falling out
i hear the strat is exu s3 and yu
lime lantern
Anyway,what happened? Did ascalon killed the ashers or what?
yea that works
glass monolith
Just for rabbit cunt.
Gladiia S2, Ascalon S2, Mostima S3, And bitch still almost escaped wrath of Lemuen S2 no scopes
pearl compass
ok dont word it like that
Sorry, but giving to Unblockable unit, which can stun, a fucking Stun Immunity is too much shit for me.
full stream
so civs leak
Just give 20-30 lvls into thorns and sl7 then lvl 50 E1 gummy
pearl compass
Gladiia S2, Ascalon S2, Mostima S3, And bitch still almost escaped wrath of Lemu...
I need to kill her fast.
Exu2 is my best shot here.
full stream
We are doing this for lemuen mod right?
pearl compass
Although Glad and Mosti is possibility.
full stream
Since that crippled need chap 13 for some reason
lime lantern
We are doing this for lemuen mod right?
Yes
lime lantern
Since that crippled need chap 13 for some reason
Yes
but i also just want to get this done and over with cause
cant do adverse later stages if i dont do this one first
for whatever reason
pastel condor
Hoooly 6-5 had me tweaking until I just borrowed Shu I should really e2 cuora
lime lantern
lime lantern
huh u can tho ?
wait what
queen axle
still cant clear with that?
glass monolith
Just because Thorns isn't GOAT in game with 400 options doesn't makes him completely useless for staging
full stream
lime lantern
Just because Thorns isn't GOAT in game with 400 options doesn't makes him comple...
he just does negative dmg
lime lantern
i either need the enemy to wak faster so that hes blocked
or thorns to actually like kill him fast
lime lantern
~~time to build that melee ops~~
what melee ops
sash i guess?? does that even count
glass monolith
Roberta 
glass monolith
I don't want to talk about chapter 12 boss
lime lantern
you'll need to block a lot on ch 12
yea so sash isnte ven a real melee op to raise
like dafuq do i do
twin jacinth
i feel like im missing something im supposed to be doing for this stage
odd forge
Demn, what's this event?
odd forge
I'll take break for a bit
foggy grove
i feel like i've seen that map on dos before
fierce reef
wtf is vec12 bro
pearl compass
wtf is vec12 bro
fierce reef
ts mf rabbit bitch goes Mach 10
pearl compass
fierce reef
And mechanic kills everyone
pearl compass
Ikr
queen axle
wtf is vec12 bro
queen axle
ts mf rabbit bitch goes Mach 10
ines less people in shambles
fierce reef
call it how it is bro
queen axle
leafcarpet isnt even the main problem !
odd forge
Basically cc?
odd forge
Ah
queen axle
cause it isnt
its impossible to do vector 12 week 1
if u dont have the right ops that being shu/yu
fierce reef
Why is yu needed
foggy grove
tp
queen axle
for the other strat
pearl compass
Why is yu needed
Teleport.
full stream
To funnel mechanist
pearl compass
Instead defending 3 lines, you defend 2.
foggy grove
kidnap them from another lane to clump it
fierce reef
Nah if smart you could probably do it without 6 stars
queen axle
u can but u need the buffs
fierce reef
Doesn't feel too impossible
full stream
There is a 5* only clear 
foggy grove
5* clear it buffless right?
queen axle
full stream
Same with 4* its probably possible but not first week
queen axle
5* clear it buffless right?
no
you can have a full 6* team but not have shu/yu and u wont clear it
foggy grove
queen axle
not even close
fierce reef
you can have a full 6* team but not have shu/yu and u wont clear it
I'm so tempted to prove this wrong
full stream
I can 4 op rn but honestly I'd wait second round of buffs to make it easier
queen axle
I'm so tempted to prove this wrong
go on
fierce reef
No I need to trim
somber falcon
Oyuki made a strat that doesn't use either of them 
fierce reef
If I had gnosis I'd use him ngl
queen axle
Oyuki made a strat that doesn't use either of them <:PodencoSip:7698801671241728...
shrimply have ulpianus with glad and spec alt to tank both lanes im assuming
wait he used shu
tho
bruh
foggy grove
hoe stunbot?
queen axle
holy hoederer mentioned
rotund crag
Can someone help me to beat this stage with those units? I know it's possible but I can't figure it out ,Any suggestions is appreciated
vocal leaf
Can someone help me to beat this stage with those units? I know it's possible bu...
deploy exu on the other side, so when boss respawn she can kill it right away
sash and tequila should be able to handle p1 
rotund crag
sash and tequila should be able to handle p1 <:BPCozy:699039058910773579>
They can't xD. No matter who I put in front of blue box even if two healer they don't survive. Maybe I am missing something..
foggy grove
boss has 3k attack
it will kill most e1 unit
your combined def and hp need to be over 3k to not get one shot
fierce reef
cuora gaming
violet basin
anyone else also run a full firearms only team?
odd forge
Two more
lapis hornet
just stall with 3 medics smh
v easy
tbh don't rly need tequila can optimize surely
void terrace
Damn wait i just realised pepe has a super high starting sp
With exu s3 she can perma stun a single target for like 80s
Which is super funny
odd forge
Last one
void terrace
No buffs?
sly drift
Let him cook
sly drift
It would still took him long enough if he refuses to use clear stage reference
glass monolith
I have no idea why Frostleaf, but please win with her
sly drift
This shi only easy if you already know how to cheese it.
Finding out how to cheese it is fking insane
glass monolith
Cheese?... Where is hole this time?
remote atlas
<@125789467226275840> hey Ecko, can Saria substitute Shu?
Maybe, might be a close one.
sly drift
Cheese?... Where is hole this time? <:HellaKek:735650408340521020>
Just very effective way to clear it
queen axle
i dont think she can cause shu teleports the giraffe back
saria cant do that
i mean thats the main reason why shu is used to lane hold the giraffe in this stage
pearl compass
I may S3 him to slow down a bit.
remote atlas
I didn't use Shu to teleport the boss.
queen axle
the giraffe?
queen axle
glass monolith
Just very effective way to clear it
Do you have video or whatever, I am kinda curious of how much wrong turns I took
sly drift
Do you have video or whatever, I am kinda curious of how much wrong turns I took
No..
I don't even know how to cheese it
I did classic move. Sustain my Hoshi as long as possible
Until I finally beat it
As how I stopped the giraffe. I use Crownslayer, Ray, Texalt, repeat
glass monolith
I did "I remember someone did it on CN with Ulp, brute force the rest"
sly drift
If it works then it's works
worn root
I did "I remember someone did it on CN with Ulp, brute force the rest"
crownslayer usage
spice gust
vec-12 such bs
narrow pendant
Funny ass stage indeed
spice gust
I didn't use Shu to teleport the boss.
just watched ur video with yu s2 boss, very smart
i just tanked this little shit with upli and AH buff and burst him at 2nd phase
but yu strategy very good
we will get harder version of that stage in 5 days right?
stuck ermine
oh there's harder ones?
worn root
yes because why the fuck not
stuck ermine
very arknights things to do
worn root
vec-12 such bs
I'm still on VEC-11
pearl compass
we will get harder version of that stage in 5 days right?
Yes.
Unfortunately.
There's more.
maiden hound
shit man this just reminded me to beat vec 04
worn root
I'm so mad I didn't build up my max pot grain buds
glass monolith
crownslayer usage
Preparation for next CCB
worn root
I don't have enough money to build her up as well
glass monolith
I will aura farm supports
worn root
unless I say fuck it and use all my sanity and grind CE-6
spice gust
I wonder if its beatable without crusher centurion or brawler
glass monolith
Fuck it and don't do that
worn root
I need money stat man
glass monolith
It gives shit amount for sanity you will sink to it
worn root
so what is even the fucking point of that stage
maiden hound
1 
glass monolith
It is like 8% more efficient that CE-5. Which is still trash
If you have no money, sidetrack for modules, by time you finish crafting those dumb T5 materials you somehow have LMD for all your needs assuming you remember to do clicks on base
cyan plover
so what is even the fucking point of that stage
Doing IS or RA could be good alternatives.
worn root
lemme see if I have any mission I need to complete in IS
cyan plover
Unless you're gonna do supportknights on them then I suppose it could be more of a pain
worn root
I don't do supporterknights for farming
cyan plover
Nice
worn root
just clears and end game content
cyan plover
I mean, I guess IS could be considered endgame content in a way.
worn root
oh yeh, but if I'm grinding to max difficulty or just completing missions or story tellers then I would do it normally
cyan plover
worn root
first time?
odd forge
no, ive been crt mald for 6 hours straight in blue archive raid means this is nothing to me!!
its only an hour and half mins tryna cooking vec 12
glass monolith
(Laughs at swordman tripping into hole on EX-2)
rotund crag
your combined def and hp need to be over 3k to not get one shot
it's just healars that are e1 ,Both teq and SA are e2 lv 60 and 80 ,But they don't survive two shots of their own.
plucky summit
how can i beat mt s5 this is my roster
queen axle
something something borrow lemuen
plucky summit
something something borrow lemuen
i saw exualt and lemuen mt s5 videos but my exualt dps isnt enough for that i think
glass monolith
i saw exualt and lemuen mt s5 videos but my exualt dps isnt enough for that i th...
If only there was like 10 more squad slots 
foggy grove
<:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798997> it's just healars that are e1 ,Both teq and ...
cake already showed you that 3 e1 healer can sustain it as long as the tank has 3k of hp+def
plucky summit
If only there was like 10 more squad slots <:DIE:596526727174291456>
yeah
the boss just kills them and ends the stage i dont have time to deploy more since i dont have dp
proud bluff
I wonder if its beatable without crusher centurion or brawler
ofc it is
I used execalter for the first one, and necrass for the second one
Granted, necrass needed a frd to not leak one rat, outside of that it's pretty much solo
noble pewter
I'm so tempted to prove this wrong
See, I personally don't have shu, yu, ulpi, m3ster, exualter n cleared, just borrow shu
rotund crag
cake already showed you that 3 e1 healer can sustain it as long as the tank has ...
Oh ,Mb I didn't notice the afterchat . I will try,thanks!
noble pewter
Wait or did he meant buffless 
fierce reef
See, I personally don't have shu, yu, ulpi, m3ster, exualter n cleared, just bor...
i have all those units
I'm saying that
I'll find a way to beat it without relying on those crutches
No hate to anyone using them though
I'm close to beating it I just need to find a way to beat the mid lane
full terrace
Can do without Shu/Yu dont worry, they just make things so much easier
Like A LOT easier
patent canyon
Any tips/dumb strong ops for vector stage 10? The shield dudes are crushing any of my defenders/guards faster then I can heal and take out the snipers
Can provide squad pic if it helps
fierce reef
Can do without Shu/Yu dont worry, they just make things so much easier
What is the strat
full terrace
Bait ofcourse what else
fierce reef
What bait
patent canyon
Lemme see the map
It's this one
full terrace
???? What do you mean what bait?
patent canyon
Take your time no worries
patent canyon
Main issue is that I dont have enough healing to outpace the damage (tried gladiia too, helped a little but not a ton) on ulpi
Oh I haven't tried that tile
full terrace
Yeah thats the key tile
queen axle
wouldn't ulpi just get stunlocked
patent canyon
I kept trying to put him on this tile
somber falcon
It's this one
or just dakka them
patent canyon
or just dakka them <:ChenShrug:924013423363231844>
Not enough stuff to level my exu more, she's only e2lvl1 s7, she's next in line for levels
somber falcon
that's sl7
patent canyon
Its the left side that has greater pressure
Alright, ill give this a try, thanks for the help both of ya
somber falcon
heck go add ela there as well then
patent canyon
I've been throwing down ela/ash/exu2 all on one side to burst them down if needbe
sullen rover
yoo guys how can i beat this stage
full stream
can ebenholz solo it?
sullen rover
worn root
yoo guys how can i beat this stage
walter
full stream
like its an actually question i am kinda curious
queen axle
what vector is that again
proud bluff
Idk but virt e2 60 mod3 s1m3 solo it
full terrace
like its an actually question i am kinda curious
It's a bait, just ignore
odd forge
Me tryna cooking vec 12
sullen rover
can ebenholz solo it?
nope hes bad at mobbing
worn root
not even eben s2?
sullen rover
hmm
glass monolith
Eben S2 is meme. On low weight enemy it causes pull to slingshot enemy into all preplaced things
odd forge
He's dead, let him rest
glass monolith
Hey at least one can S3 some random ass boss with buff squad from time to time
glass monolith
brisk surge
wtfart minus so slow
soft parrot
It's a bait, just ignore
Hi arf 
, sry for the ping btw I just wanted to ask you for tips to do mts3 cm it's super annoying tbh idk how to clear it
full terrace
Hi arf <:RosHi:954513503560036422>, sry for the ping btw I just wanted to ask yo...
Yeah well MT-S-3 has a burst check. You need some sort of burst dps for the final wave when the priests come to your blue box en masse, aside from that, you only bait Snipers with Medics and a proper tank, for example Cuora if you have no one.
The top right-side of the map has a hole you can abuse
You can deploy a puller to reduce the number of priests
glass monolith
wtfart minus so slow
Was doing work for guy on paid leave last week and this week was 6 work day before 3 day weekend 
full terrace
Hi arf <:RosHi:954513503560036422>, sry for the ping btw I just wanted to ask yo...
The reason why I use Necrass is because:
- She does Arts, and most of the enemies in that stage are weak to Arts.
- Her burst is high enough to kill them without letting the priests healing them.
worn root
you also have a third reason I believe
soft parrot
The reason why I use Necrass is because:
1. She does Arts, and most of the enemi...
Should i still use necress with this team
full terrace
Yes
It's not about how built your squad is
The problem is that, those swordies and snipers hit hard
So hard that you cant tank them for long
You have the damage, lots of your ops do
But none of them are tough enough to tank/stall them
opaque aspen
How the fck do you even deal with the last phase of the boss in MT-S-5 challenge??
soft parrot
Okay tysm
opaque aspen
I can't deploy 4 operators at once, 3 of whom can tank his attack even once and one that aims for him, wis is obviously not enough to kill him and he walks 6 tiles total in less than 30 seconds
full terrace
You can either
Lemuen S3 that thing, it only takes her 2x S3 activation
Or
You can Wis burst him
opaque aspen
Me with no lemon in 250 rolls 
opaque aspen
2 cycles? You mean 2 wis activations?
worn root
2 lemuen s3's
full terrace
Yes
opaque aspen
... how the fck do you stall him 50 seconds... even with frdp that's simply impossibke
full terrace
?????
You judge it "impossible" right away is limiting your view on the matters
The fact is just completely different than what you imagine
Dont live in your imagination
opaque aspen
Ooh i see
full terrace
Now you see. Still impossible?
opaque aspen
Nah impossible in my view point because i spend 10 ops in the last phases. That leaves me with 2 to change for last one. I have to rethink how i do the rest
Ofc 3 frdp work, but i was thinking of only using one which... yeah aint gona cut it lol
Up to now i've been setting up 1 or 2 dps for the boss while monster and shu barely keep everyone alive... how can i make it work without needing 2 vanguards, 4 dps and 2 to 3 healers then?
somber falcon
you literally have shu
just grab lemuen and proc shu while cycling 
opaque aspen
Nah i have the resources to do it without support. I don't do support
Otherwise i could simply set a single eyja and be done with the healing
Also shu doesn't outheal the damage past phase 3
Or at least not her alone
topaz tapir
spawncamp the sniper box
The Preacher doesn't allow me to spawncamp
wicked minnow
The Preacher doesn't allow me to spawncamp
exu2 can spawn camp bottom right all on her own
you just either 1. have to have her placed as your first unit or 2. wake her up with the guy in the middle before the preacher comes
lost idol
lowkey having a hard time fighting this guy. entering phase 2, still one hitting 1.3k def euctn while having -23% atk from mouse
how do you guys tank this vic 12 boss?
cyan plover
The Preacher doesn't allow me to spawncamp
Deploy Ines> Lappland Facing The Baby Crib Thing > Exu2 > Kroos > Thorns
After waking up the crib thing you can undeploy texas to relocate behind Blaze
topaz tapir
you just either 1. have to have her placed as your first unit or 2. wake her up ...
I'm having trouble waking her up tho
topaz tapir
After waking up the crib thing you can undeploy texas to relocate behind Blaze
Texas?
cyan plover
I'm having trouble waking her up tho
'
Change the order to Ines>Texas>Kroos>Exu2
Once Crib's awake>Undeploy Lappland>Drop Thorns>( assuming you can deal with snipers Blaze>Healers>Lappland) else 1 Healer>Blaze>2nd Healer>Lappland behind Blaze.
opaque aspen
Still can't get consistently to last phase and when i do i literally don't have enough dp to stall the boss
He also ends up targetting wis with his skill. Do i just undeploy wis the second she finishes her skill?
cyan plover
Do you have another agent?
topaz tapir
I can't wake up crib in time for swordsmen either
topaz tapir
Current team rn
cyan plover
No like, search on your roster for another vanguard agent, same archetype as ines. if not it's cool.
cyan plover
Change the order to Ines>Texas>Kroos>Exu2
Did you try this deployment order?
topaz tapir
No like, search on your roster for another vanguard agent, same archetype as ine...
Oh another Agent?
I have Surfer ig
topaz tapir
Did you try this deployment order?
Yes
Couldn't get crib in time
They focus on swordmen first so
cyan plover
They focus on swordmen first so
You could deploy Exu2 as soon as you have enough dp.
topaz tapir
I got crib up but Nurturer resets wakefullness
And Thorns cannot survive against Swordsmen
sullen rover
gottem
fringe solstice
They focus on swordmen first so
You are going about it in the right way. Charge the cosplayer then place bait then dps/medic then activate the cosplayer. #strategy message Ignore the ops, it is just a video of what I'm talking about
Wisadel or lapp alter is the borrow if you want to do that
pearl breach
I got crib up but Nurturer resets wakefullness
I bet your deployment order is a mess.
Dont drop exu2 too early.
Wait the nurturer to come online first
cyan plover
I bet your deployment order is a mess.
Dont drop exu2 too early.
Wait the nurtur...
He's not even placing exu2 to begin with
pearl breach
she is dead.. bot left corner
cyan plover
It's loading give it some patience
in fact I don't think I need thorns where I just placed him.
deft totem
any advice on tanking vec-12 mechanist phase 2? i tried both hoshi and ulpi, and they're dying through eyja s1, shu tile, and exu2 s2.
cyan plover
https://youtu.be/oSC94wHQw1I
@topaz tapir check it out.
Thorns could be placed somewhere else and instead I'd put another sniper or something instead
sullen rover
any advice on tanking vec-12 mechanist phase 2? i tried both hoshi and ulpi, and...
i killed them with surtr and a bunch of mess
cyan plover
your kroos2 could work there just fine.
sullen rover
altho i dont think tanking is very good since ur aspd is reduced too much
pearl breach
any advice on tanking vec-12 mechanist phase 2? i tried both hoshi and ulpi, and...
Dont put any range adjecent to your highest block count.
Use exu s3 to revive whatever you are blocking mechanist with.
Also, eyja s3 for more burst healing.
Good luck
fringe solstice
any advice on tanking vec-12 mechanist phase 2? i tried both hoshi and ulpi, and...
exu s3 is the play. Iirc ulpi needs mod and/or gladia mod to survive. 
deft totem
i see, i'll try switching to exu s3 then
my ulpi is kinda scuffed, only mod1 and don't have gladia upgraded, so i think hoshi better rn
full terrace
any advice on tanking vec-12 mechanist phase 2? i tried both hoshi and ulpi, and...
Bait the nuke away from your defense line and bring more than 1 tank, when one dies just deploy his/her replacement right away
And preferably have a tank with DR
Such as Ulpi with Gladiia (30% DR) or Yu
Or Shu
pearl breach
Arf. Dr from mod stack with dr from skill or no? I keep forgetting about this stuff
sullen rover
apparently low op record just redeploy with exu2 on yu and then heal him
full terrace
Arf. Dr from mod stack with dr from skill or no? I keep forgetting about this st...
Multiplicatively I heard
pearl breach
sullen rover
wtf u summoned him
pearl compass
@eckogen YOU ROCK!!!
Bruh
I didn't see the ping
Anyway
I should thank you so much for your guide
lapis hornet
np
opaque aspen
Man i'm giving up that's it
sullen rover
never give up
opaque aspen
not even guides, they all use increadibly specific loadouts and i can't make them in time
my shu's s1 is not m3 and that just fcks up half the starts, the other half is me needing 2 ops i don't have and for kyo's guide i either have a lemuen that can't survive a skill from the boss or one that kills it too quickly on first phase
cyan plover
Have you tried Shu's S3.
umbral sage
the boss keeps reviving 
how do I stop that?
sullen rover
shu s3 is better right
opaque aspen
i've tried about anything i could think of to get through the phases until the last one, only had a single clear run where i managed to isolate 2 priests on shu to stall
sullen rover
the boss keeps reviving <a:think:1015310078741598208> how do I stop that?
is3 check
kill them at the same time
opaque aspen
Have you tried Shu's S3.
on their guides? I believe if they used s1 it's because of uptime so i assumed it simply wouldn't work
the second shu s3 ends i get fcked
pearl compass
the boss keeps reviving <a:think:1015310078741598208> how do I stop that?
Unfortunately, you have to kill the other one before first one will restore all HP back to max.
Or it's endless fight.
umbral sage
opaque aspen
guess i won't be getting the medals 
umbral sage
guess i won't be getting the medals <:HoshiCry:1002223846973255863>
welcome to the club 🤝
sullen rover
did u try to use this one only 4 6 stars needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV3J0aBqAi4
opaque aspen
uuuhhhh check my roster in bio if you can. But basically when i tried making my own strat it was wis, logos and qiubai (... yes her total damage on s3 is bonkers, plus good range and ground unit) cycling to end the boss on each phase, monster, shu and/or lumen to make it so i don't die too much and a few vanguards and fast redeploys (for last phase)
opaque aspen
did u try to use this one only 4 6 stars needed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...
Didn't even find this one. I'll try it since reed's the only one i don't have here and i can support
fringe solstice
Didn't even find this one. I'll try it since reed's the only one i don't have he...
it is possible with mon3 but skill timings are different
opaque aspen
... none of my friends have her so i bet ill get fcked over stat diff
Wait no just realised
this is the wrong stage goofer xd
fringe solstice
although I think no mod exu might not work just try it first ig
opaque aspen
i'm talking MT-S-5 challenge mode
fringe solstice
opaque aspen
fringe solstice
borrow lemuen
cyan plover
i'm talking MT-S-5 challenge mode
If you're up for support you could just lemon it
sullen rover
opaque aspen
... yes but how? I don't have a strat that lets me get through to last phase
i have one last phase try every 5 attempts and i'm becoming tilter rn
sullen rover
uhh it stay wanted after phases so just activate luemen s2
cyan plover
... yes but how? I don't have a strat that lets me get through to last phase
S3 Shu should do the trick. If you're worried of the sustain early on you just plop an healer.
narrow pendant
... yes but how? I don't have a strat that lets me get through to last phase
U have shu and exu?
If so, youre already done
3op s5 cm
cyan plover
When you get to the hard hitting phase you remove all unecessary healers.
narrow pendant
sullen rover
oh it has 3 https://youtu.be/AG9nOqcrNSY?si=E4xjlliGx0Tvqk30
cyan plover
As more ops to heal = harder time to manage their upkeep.
cyan plover
oh it has 3 https://youtu.be/AG9nOqcrNSY?si=E4xjlliGx0Tvqk30
Oh right, W'alter can aggro with her stuff.
cyan plover
This one might work tbh
Wasn't it cause in the beginning you said u didn't want to support? at least chat logs says so
opaque aspen
Wasn't it cause in the beginning you said u didn't want to support? at least cha...
Oh yes, went like 30 damage away from beating this fcker and havent gotten a run that good since. I'm at 50 tries rn and i might jump from a bridge
I have principles, but fck ethics i'm enraged now
cyan plover
fair
fringe solstice
ig if you don't want to borrow, place wisadel or exu2 on the right side once the last phase triggers with some healing
opaque aspen
man and i havent gotten a lemu in 250 rolls... thank god i'm doing good in life otherwise i'd have fallen back into depression in the span of a week
sullen rover
lol i got 2 lemu from free pulls
cyan plover
man and i havent gotten a lemu in 250 rolls... thank god i'm doing good in life ...
Hey, at least u didn't end up 6 potting Exu2 before getting a Lemon
opaque aspen
at least you got a lemon. I'm lemonless 
astral cosmos
you can blog about your pulls in #salt-mines
cedar fog
I got a weird thing that just happened, doing MT-S-5, final part, the boss managed to go to the right side but I had my Lemuen S2 ready again. Suddenly he's taking 0 damage. What's that about?
plucky grove
is it just me or is vec 8 easier than vec 4, maybe its because no high tide?
plucky grove
I got a weird thing that just happened, doing MT-S-5, final part, the boss manag...
lemuen stops charging her shot when her dmg is equal to boss hp + def, but it doesnt take into account the boss' shield
fringe solstice
is it just me or is vec 8 easier than vec 4, maybe its because no high tide?
I felt the same
plucky grove
so the boss probably got too much shield
cedar fog
lemuen stops charging her shot when her dmg is equal to boss hp + def, but it do...
well that's a bummer, got to kill him earlier then
plucky grove
yea, i had the same problem, turns out i needed lemuen to have full ammo before the boss revives for the final phase cuz by the time it gets to the right side lemuen wont deal enough damage
pearl breach
Your problem lies in here
Two option. Kill the boss faster or the statue.
Whatever suits you the best
cedar fog
lemme Shamare it
full terrace
I got a weird thing that just happened, doing MT-S-5, final part, the boss manag...
The statues giving him shields
6% per sec iirc
Up to +150% of its Mac HP
Lemu S2 is slow, takes a few secs to charge before shooting
Boss regained enough shields before you can shoot
To cheese it, you either use Lemuen S3 for the big burst before the boss regain his shields
Or you simply Wisadel him
Wis will just blast the boss together with the statue, she doesnt care about shields
cedar fog
Shamare works :D
strange palm
Well, thanks to me leaving that suggested 3* op clear for EX-8 challenge mode in an open tab, I managed to clear that (and the clear was a bit better since I used Exu over Adnachiel to get a sniper I'd built for the last bit)
But I still haven't done S-1 or the missions past it, any suggestions?
strange palm
...and what about teams my roster can do? Those roster suggestions are a mix of "I built that," "I did not build that," and "I don't have that at all"
plus my roster's in my about me so y'all can see what I mean
full terrace
...
strange palm
...and what about teams my roster can do? Those roster suggestions are a mix of ...
for units I don't have, the guide doesn't tell me their branch to easily swap them without opening more tabs to find out (and my computer does NOT want me to open more tabs right now)
glass monolith
for units I don't have, the guide doesn't tell me their branch to easily swap th...
You have 30 free daily practice plans to experiment (until upcoming QoL to remove sanity on defeat completely if i remember right). Depending on situation but usually you can get away with using different operator of same archetype (we can operator search by archetype within classes now) unless guide in question utilize something only that specific operator does
strange palm
I can't archetype search for a unit I don't own at all
glass monolith
If you dont own unit use unit you do, expirement idk, or give up and ask us we are cooking when free
strange palm
I'm asking already
glass monolith
and i exit power nap 10 minutes ago, what units you have what guide you copy
strange palm
https://youtu.be/FHskJmMInJU?si=xmpaCdlv-rjXukZR
the units I have are linked in my about me, and the only guide that's been linked to me so far is the one I'm replying to
mild wind
am i trust cucked or something
plucky grove
probably just didnt have enough ammo
mild wind
full terrace
Bullets must not stray
mild wind
plucky grove
Bullets must not stray
i dont think theres any other elites for her to spend ammo on in this phase
though im not familiar with this particular strat so im not sure how the ammo management works
full terrace
i dont think theres any other elites for her to spend ammo on in this phase
She does not just hit elites
plucky grove
when i used lemon in a regular squad i reset her skill after every phase and it went pretty clean
full terrace
She hits everyone in her range
plucky grove
wait this is skill 3?
full terrace
Including those sleeping NPC with baby bottles
mild wind
yes lol
plucky grove
oh my bad
full terrace
I used her on my alt and she did a lot of stray bullets if not controlled properly
Quoting my friend Light "she loves to nuke butterflies"
noble pewter
plus my roster's in my about me so y'all can see what I mean
So u ok with borrow or only want ur own units used purely?
mild wind
using less bullets work afterall
instead of dumping all
at least for cycling
so her lock on is uninterrupted
strange palm
So u ok with borrow or only want ur own units used purely?
I wanna see if I can do it with my roster first, if I can't do that before tomorrow I'm fine with borrowing
I've got a few irl things to do today so that's why I'm giving myself such a huge window of time
noble pewter
Kyo guide is mostly low end already n just need borrow wis is less pain if u just try follow their guide, wis solve a lot of things
strange palm
...and what about teams my roster can do? Those roster suggestions are a mix of ...
can't fully use the guides thanks to missing some ops (and my computer is currently unhappy with my browser)
mild agate
I love how the dynamic of this stage completely changes if you have logos
hasty spruce
This stage sure is the best
mild agate
Since he’s currently the only operator that can stop and slow projectiles in mid air
If memory serves with his S3
It’s a really cool interaction
glass monolith
This stage sure is the best
H8 stages found out way to make it "better"
hasty spruce
Is logos a limited op
mild agate
No he’s standard pool
glass monolith
Is logos a limited op
Nope, standard
vocal leaf
This stage sure is the best
best music too, talulah will be playable one day
vivid rain
Is logos a limited op
standard but dont go pulling for him
full terrace
best music too, talulah will be playable one day <:SkadiDaijoubu:839269199964798...
Gracebearer is a Primal Guard. It's a sign 😏
glass monolith
Why EX-7 has so alarmlingly low sleep tile count?
hasty spruce
I have nothing, even wisadel cant withstand it
full terrace
???? Wisadel carry can solve it
hasty spruce
???? Wisadel carry can solve it
Get blown up suddenly
Didnt even take dmg and i had placed extra ops
glass monolith
Take a shot someone have Wisadel exploded in cross fire explosion talulah skill bullshit
full terrace
You didnt play with the mechanics properly thats why
glass monolith
Explode
cyan plover
explode in a cross
hasty spruce
If talulah dies does she have a aoe explosion
glass monolith
Times explosion on 4 main directions and hit units with projectile which spread talubruh burn
full terrace
Talulah phase change and when she is defeated spawns a wave of fireballs
noble pewter
can't fully use the guides thanks to missing some ops (and my computer is curren...
Wdym missing some ops, they just borrow 1 wisdel for s1 n a bunch of 3 stars which u can replace with ur own other units 
hasty spruce
No when she dies on her final stage
hasty spruce
What
full terrace
Talulah phase change and when she is defeated spawns a wave of fireballs
mild wind
yeah well they were asking if theres anything else
hasty spruce
Talulah phase change and __**when she is defeated**__ spawns a wave of fireballs
Yeah
glass monolith
Oh god overmax stacked EX-7 swordmasters
hasty spruce
What does that mean
full terrace
#strategy message there go study that video for positioning and mechanics, then substitute with your own ops
And here #strategy message
For the basic mechanics
noble pewter
can't fully use the guides thanks to missing some ops (and my computer is curren...
I tried with purely ops u owned as well, n it is clearable even with mistakes, u can try spam ntrk s3 to tank the snipers, keep putting down gravel n other units, or make sure saria is last deployed n have ptilopsis healing them, capture all the towers near right side so snipers can't reload fast n u be fine
hasty spruce
I see nothing on the video
cyan plover
The vid must be downloading on your end. It's not a link, it's an embed.
hasty spruce
https://discord.com/channels/586503387072167937/669489344658014208/1379457189227...
I see nothing
I see so nightingale
glass monolith
Nigtingale RES buff/dodge make is simple to soak fire wave damage as it is just 1000 arts 10 times with window to land some heals in between
hasty spruce
Wis suddenly exploded when i killed talulah
Lemme check what the next banners gonna be
I have 2 supports
That sucks at healing
glass monolith
Guard Amiya S1 has dodge chance against RES
bunch of units can be sacrificed to block 2-3 projectiles each
glass monolith
That sucks at healing
We have Quercus powercreep in January for damage reduction + healing
cyan plover
I have 2 supports
Ansel seems to be doing fine in the video though. Sussuro should do well.
vivid rain
either ng to tank the fireballs or logos to remove it
hasty spruce
Well that seems pretty helpful
vivid rain
or just redeploy everyone since it’s not even the H stage anyway
no civilians to protect
hasty spruce
The only thing that can tank those balls is revenant shadows
hasty spruce
Well there goes all of my mats away again
glass monolith
Hold it with material spending and cook
vivid rain
Not really practical anyway since there are more than 3 fireballs
glass monolith
Do you need something to "survive" tanking fireballs?
cyan plover
Can't ya'll ask him to share the roster before reccomending him ops that he may or may not own
hasty spruce
Oh yeah
My tema basically consists of expensive when killed
If one of my dp recoveries die its basically game over
fringe solstice
The only thing that can tank those balls is revenant shadows
in the vid arf linked with wisadel clear, the revenant shadows were manipulated to spawn in the locations to save wisadel. But ig nightingale borrow is the more afk strat she helps survive the cross explosion.
hasty spruce
You can manipulate where those shadows will spawn?
full terrace
Welp you got Plekkx and HybridX explaining it to you
Yes you can
The spawn order is: down, left, right, and up
It also depends on the position she is facing
For example if she is positioned facing up, the first priority of "down" will not happen because it's not in her attack range
And so the first shadow will spawn to her left
hasty spruce
Well
So thats why my lappter gets killed easily
And my wis explodes
Basically reversed postion
hasty spruce
What is this
full terrace
Birthday cake slicing order
full terrace
Yes
hasty spruce
Yeah no theres absolutely something wrong with this
Wis just suddenly explodes for no absolute reason
Another long year for me
worn root
FINALLY!!!
glass monolith
Wis just suddenly explodes for no absolute reason
Use practice plan and give us video/clip to go on
"Wisadel died 30 seconds ago" image don't help
Glory to Lunacub
mystic elbow
How can I suppose to beat them? I don’t have W’alter and Narathya…
glass monolith
What you have?
mystic elbow
Let me share.
I have most of them.
Please feel free to name one of the ops that I should use. I have Ray, and I didn’t upgrade her yet
worn root
you have all the 4 ops for the low op clear count on VEC-12
full terrace
I have most of them.
There is a very technical record play, do you want it? #strategy message
But generally here is the strat:
mystic elbow
I’m going to take a look at it
I have all of the ops that you just showed me the strategy
Gotta to try it
full terrace
My suggestion is that
You bring more healers
Medics
You dont lack dps
Just bring more Medics
And a couple more Defenders just in case
mystic elbow
Thank you!!
worn root
I need to attempt VEC-12 now
full terrace
Best of luck
glass monolith
Man you stacked. Personally I AH abused as each time when content need rarity abuse
worn root
need to come up with a strat to do it with supporters
hasty spruce
Use practice plan and give us video/clip to go on
That too is the problem my phone cant handle while recording and playing
valid loom
Gnawbeast Tsunami lee clear. Ethan can be subbed with another ambusher but ethan works the best to deal a bit of extra arts dmg to golem
don't worry about the insane frame drop lul
void terrace
Damn yu teleport is seriously cheating
Yu camping red box and spamming teleport is stupid
glass monolith
That too is the problem my phone cant handle while recording and playing<:SkadiD...
Arknights can be clusterf of events taking place all over the place while you tunnel vision somewhere else.
Only way I know of Wisadel die (outside no revenant in fire storm) is Tallulah setting revenant on fire and then croos explosion spreading burn on Wisadel.
void terrace
Add shu for more emergency teleport
First time i had to bust out nightingale in a while
hasty spruce
Arknights can be clusterf of events taking place all over the place while you tu...
I though wis is in camo when near a shadow
Damn it
fringe solstice
I though wis is in camo when near a shadow
can still be hit by aoe attacks
glass monolith
Camo don't protect from ALL dangers
mystic elbow
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xHwE4eWc114&pp=ygULUGFyZCB2ZWMtMTI%3D
This strategy is so brilliant. Gotta to put a lot of healers and defenders
glass monolith
And I find it funny each time someone encounter one of those camo bypassing dangers in here
mystic elbow
I don’t know if my ops can manage by themselves alone.
full terrace
Yes it's healing check mostly, you dont need to worry about damage
worn root
Arknights can be clusterf of events taking place all over the place while you tu...
Ak is just spaghetti code
valid loom
can Contrail jump over the tallulah fireballs? lol
that would be cool
full terrace
Reed's DoT breaks Mechanist shields, and Yu's Burn Burst is basically True Damage
It's just healing check there
worn root
it's also res shred
glass monolith
Ak is just spaghetti code
Dollkeeper of non host player not capturing gramophone in Ice Breaker
And that's why we love it
fringe solstice
can still be hit by aoe attacks
one thing to note is the burning breath skill is 19 cd while gravel is 18 redeployment time. So you don't have to think or look for the skill animation. just place gravel and red when they are ready and retreat when they get the flame circle
glass monolith
Can use 4/5 star tacticians with 15 second pet revive after manual retreat?
worn root
how many laps does the giraffe do on bottom?
glass monolith
3 or 4 and it don't pause like in vec-8 before leaving
glass monolith
Supporters only or what? 
worn root
yeh
glass monolith
Well you screwed have a good day
glass monolith
How do you physically hold mechanist before going into DP debt?
worn root
roberta
glass monolith
And what is ritual sacrifice to 3x3 nuke?
worn root
roberta was able to tank it in my VEC-08 run