strategy

[rapid junco]

Try to not telling me you have phobia into dead tree
The line up bro use :

[scarlet fulcrum]

Almost there

[rapid junco]

netflix don't have eng trans, im need to use my brain sheet

[scarlet fulcrum]

🤫 pirate it urself

[lime lantern]

where can i place my defender so that lemuen can help kill slugs?

[vocal leaf]

the top corners

they should die from the blockers + artillery

and you focus on killing cars to avoid the necrosis

[lime lantern]

[strange palm]

wondering how to plan for clearing EX-7....

[shrewd fractal]

Hi what does this mean

What's friendship/promotion gating

[wide finch]

well, just puts e0max and e1max in the situation e0l1 e1l1 and e2l1 are in

which is annoying but those niches manage

(level tuning would be nicer qol maybe)

[crisp bolt]

e0 already gets fucked by trust cap

[elder flume]

it pretty much means you need to get a friend that does the same niche or make an alt to grab a few ops

[crisp bolt]

oh mb didn't mean to ping reply for this long ago

since e0 trust caps you at I think 41%

[elder flume]

no elite gating allows people with e.g. E1 squads to borrow E2 supports when its supposed to be E1 max

[foggy grove]

no more e0 amiya form

[elder flume]

wonder if they will allow non E2 supports to show up randomly

since my prio will now prob be to find E1 max supports to simulate squads

[strange palm]

y'all got any ideas based on my roster?

[weak gazelle]

seem like this new friend support thing is a messed up
i agree to "what the point of friend in ak then if they added that" :icant:

[rapid junco]

They realize ppl not have fren anyway so they delete the system

[weak gazelle]

🥀

from support ops to only farming

guess ak players are a loner♿

[fringe solstice]

the easiest borrow is wisadel or lapp alter. But if you want to complete it with your squad, you need to charge the cosplayer in the middle so you can place ranged dps and medic bottom right like chen alter, use exusiai for the birbs, lemuen for the middle, thorns and curoa and medic left side

[vocal leaf]

and yet they’re forcing us to play coop game modes

[fringe solstice]

I feel auto deploy makes people shy away from the support system. I only use it for IS or CC mainly and sometimes a H stage

[rapid junco]

Dw, I'm here for you

[strange palm]

who goes to which spots on the map?

[shrewd fractal]

oh so it's only a bad thing for people who wanna handicap themselves?? aight then lol

[strange palm]

If I have a tough mission that my current roster can't clear I'll use a support to keep progressing, then go back and clear without a support after I get the squad to do it on my own

[fringe solstice]

You need range bait like orchid or something to bait the enemy skill, retreat the bait, place chen and perfumer down then activate the device

[strange palm]

worked well enough that despite me beefing the aggro for a second, chalter managed to survive on a sliver of health till the end

oh god I feel intimidated by EX-8's map preview

[fringe solstice]

Good job. I recorded a video of what I was talking about in case it didn't work

[strange palm]

so how's EX-8 gonna work...?

[near cypress]

Help how do I do this emergency op with this squad

I stg this stage is impossible

I think Narantuya sould be on the top row right above the spine facing down?

[fringe solstice]

It is similar to mt-10 but the boss respawns one more time

lemuen s2 is good vs the boss

[strange palm]

uhhhhhhh who goes where

[fringe solstice]

I think this is right, haven't played is5 yet. Maybe someone in #is-station could help

[fringe solstice]

I found a clear that works with lemuen s3. You don't have mod so will need more skill activations or other dps to help

[strange palm]

can't get this setup to work

[wide finch]

well, vast majority of stages are bad for farming

no need to auto stages you won't do twice most of the time
(i try to have an auto for everything in an event so i can be lazy on rerun)

[strange palm]

lem s3 can't kill the big guy before it takes out Saria, and it melts Exu and Lem the first chance it can

[fringe solstice]

most likely a mod diff probably need someone different than exu

[strange palm]

well, I have both of Exu's modules unlocked

[fringe solstice]

I meant lemuen's

[strange palm]

ohhhhhhh

who else would you suggest for the team, then?

[fringe solstice]

I'm trying with myrtle, chen alter, lemuen, nearl alter, exu, ptilopsis, and saria. I almost got it to work. But I died to the boss on the map phase 3.

[strange palm]

yea it's tough

[fringe solstice]

I got it

So lemuen s3 doesn't finish off the boss so I used nearl alter s2 to finish then I used chen alter to defeat phase 2. I retreat chen for exu after phase 2 is dead.
Lemuen s3 finishes off part 2 when the left side of the map appears.

once part 3 and the right side appears, I put down ptilopsis and activate lemuen s3 then I activate ptilopsis s2 once it is ready then place gravel on top tile next to lemuen to bait skill then activate s3 again

[strange palm]

...they all got wiped

Saria was the only one left before getting killed as well

[fringe solstice]

just to double check are you using saria s1?

[strange palm]

yes

it's not enough once the right side of the map appears. I don't even get to left side appearing

[strange palm]

btw you flipped directions here

[fringe solstice]

oh mb

I'll record it this time

[strange palm]

[rapid junco]

If you own monster, borrow mlynar for smoother run

[strange palm]

my roster's in my about me, I don't have 'em

[rapid junco]

[full terrace]

Your draft cant do this. You need either long-range anti-air so that the flying Dublinns are killed far far away from your defense line, or you bring Eyjaberry to counter the Necrosis Fields. Your current ops will kill those flying Dublinns super close to you and you'll eat the stacked Necrosis Field = SP completely halted = no skill = leak.
The bottom lane you also need a strong melee to hold, and you have no such unit in your current draft.

That stage is a just a big ball of dps check

If you draft properly it's easy

Otherwise you'll suffer

Just refresh the node and skip it next time if you feel like you arent ready

It tripped a lot people before you, dont worry if you cant do it

[plucky grove]

this stage is super evil ive leaked every time ive tried it lol

[full terrace]

Borrow Lemuen https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sg0j2KerNys&list=PLdcpPSF3owK6gucEobcaqLStGBZnWRfGo&index=19&pp=gAQBiAQB

Study that video

[near cypress]

I was able to do it because my Narantuya was roided out with some really strong relics to handle the top lane and a lot of the middle lanes and mon3tr was able to clear from outside the SP drain range to handle the rest of the middle lanes. Then Exia Alter was enough to handle bot lane with Cuora blocking, but the entire stage was pretty sketch in general

[plucky grove]

whats the point of 1st plume redeploy? does it add up time for wanted status? it didnt seem like it did anything

[foggy grove]

to mark early

oh the redeploy

[plucky grove]

yea redeploy

[foggy grove]

it does nothing

[plucky grove]

oh well

[full terrace]

Buy time for Lemuen to help Adna kill the birds

Adna is weak, some of the birds can leak

Plume blocking to separate the 2nd and the 3rd beast

You can also deploy in front of Lemuen, same thing

[regal frost]

[full terrace]

Thats just a pre-deploy block

[regal frost]

I live here now

[plucky grove]

interesting, i see that now

[strange palm]

did ya get the recording?

[gray latch]

Is vermeil a good invest

To elite 1

[fringe solstice]

for base skill ye

[gray latch]

I'm using a kyostin guide for general clear, couldn't decide between vermeil and jessica

[full terrace]

Both are

Stick to your Kroos, and if you badly want a Marksman grab Krooster

May is also pretty good

[gray latch]

I have Kroos, where do I get Kroos alt

[strange palm]

._. the recording only goes up to the Exu deployment

[gray latch]

I have may vermeil aciddrop meteor ambriel shirayuki totter and pinecone in my 4*s rn

And Jessica

[prime anvil]

you could run may since her slow helps with management a lil bit

[south spindle]

If its for general content kroos2 handles most things

but may is my goat in IS5 so you won't go wrong leveling her

🥹

[gray latch]

Is kroos2 a welfare or gacha

[south spindle]

welfare

see #help beginner selector guide (shes not selector, shes just on that image)

[full terrace]

Btw May can also shoot down those Dublinn flyers in Frequent Dispute

:joyplush:

[south spindle]

Broken operator

Even more broken skin upcoming

[prime anvil]

welfare from invitation to wine

you can use borrows to clear through it pretty fast to just get her

[fringe solstice]

I don't have nitro and I thought you were having issues in the beginning. Once the right side appears, you activate lemuen s3 after the devices get destroyed, so all the shots land on the boss

[strange palm]

devices?

like the cosplayers?

[fringe solstice]

ye

[strange palm]

ok

accidentally recalls Lem
...here we go again

okay, NOW my issue is the sankta birds and the statues on the last phase

[foggy grove]

why is that an issue

[strange palm]

birds take Chalter's ammo then kill her, then statues take Lem's HP even with Ptilopsis deployed

[foggy grove]

you have exu for birb

[strange palm]

Exu can't take them out soon enough

[fringe solstice]

Maybe this will help out with the rest of the stage. My exusiai is m3 so you might need to place gravel or more dps. It's late for me, so I'm going to bed now.

[strange palm]

i understand one of my issues (deploying chalter before the sankta birds are all dead)

[strange palm]

I DID IT
I FINALLY DID IT

[rapid junco]

Now do cm mode

[strange palm]

not tonight, it's 3AM for me

[elder flume]

3 agent kills

[desert prairie]

Ines carry

[kindred minnow]

Penance is good

[leaden linden]

hot ch'en

[leaden linden]

and typhon

[kindred minnow]

Didn’t he say

Defenders??

[leaden linden]

i just read as "my old ops"

not defender

lmao

LAG

[kindred minnow]

Nvm let me shut my fucking mouth

[pure river]

Wait shit wrong chat

Mb

[mighty zodiac]

bruh wtf is this diabolical level

[void terrace]

If you place a sniper on top left dream tile

[scarlet fulcrum]

Entel s2 playground

[void terrace]

And medic defender next to them

They will wake up right before the bird wave hits

Then play the rest of the level defending the corner

[mighty zodiac]

I already did

[void terrace]

What killed you then

[mighty zodiac]

but there's a guy who came out from the bottom left

[hollow wadi]

i borrowed Ela to pass this level

[mighty zodiac]

his damage is too much

then once I managed to get pass there

[void terrace]

Once your sniper wakes up build defenses around the corner to take agro, and also have a ranged unit pointing down

To cover the red box

[mighty zodiac]

but there's one guy at the top who teleported to my base

like how even

[hollow wadi]

there is a blue tunnel

[void terrace]

The medic defender should block the blue boz

Box

[mighty zodiac]

I try again and see how

[twin jacinth]

Trying to work out a way to do h12-4 that doesn't require suzuran's module - it seems like most clears on arkrec have her with her module for it 🤔

[lapis hornet]

sus

[maiden hound]

y need cheap out tho

[twin jacinth]

...?

[mighty zodiac]

bruh another diabolical level

[elder flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3p0ylp5lO4

well that was simple

[twin jacinth]

apparently you can use operators that shift on deployment to push the boss into a hole lol

[wicked minnow]

that's called blockshifting which is seperate from "shift on deployemnt". the operators used to do that are not remarkable in any way

[twin jacinth]

ah my b

[mighty zodiac]

bruh what

[glass monolith]

https://youtu.be/D4IyPAOsoxU?si=mTlv3feLNl71OVgu

Push is cursed because you need to block boss in way which causes float point precision bullshit make boss be slightly on left to make push caused by deploy on top of boss to yeet shit into hole

[twin jacinth]

i was mistaken on how exactly the mechanic worked. my bad

[wicked minnow]

afaik this only works on specific tiles since when a mob is pushed perfectly horizontally or vertically, their center is between 2 tiles. so they have to decide which tile they are on

the explanation i heard is that it alternates every tile

if you try to do trap master stall it should be similar i believe

[lapis hornet]

mobs are never perfectly centered nowadays to avoid this kinda thing happening

haven't really run into floating pt uncertainty myself, one case might have been it but who knows

some of the difference could be due to like

fk what's the term i forget

you know how ak doesn't scan for targets every frame but on a certain cycle

[wicked minnow]

yeah i've heard of that one

same with blocking

the babel event assassin incident

[lapis hornet]

i mean in case of actual 50/50 there's v likely a tie breaker mechanism but don't think anyone knows how

[full terrace]

Peak blockshifting was during Pepe mummy event

😂

[lapis hornet]

i remember cases where one rosmontis block would always be targetted over the other on s3

consistently

[wicked minnow]

this is what i meant

on one tile it works. on the one right beside it it doesnt

[lapis hornet]

oh like that

think it's just cause of the slight angle of his pathing?

i mean it's deterministic right

like always works/doesn't work on the same tiles

[sly drift]

Lemuen S2
Alone VS with exu passive VS with exu and Mon3 passive

Average 14k dph.. How could ppl called this Mid skill.
Couldn't be #help

[lapis hornet]

it's cause it's slow

need like 30s to full unload

[sly drift]

Yes yes... Sure

[lapis hornet]

helps always talks in extremes ya should be used to it by now

dph kinda overrated tbh

like

exu only has 2.5k

when it's sa his dph makes him mid when it's exu it makes her best unit in the game

kappa

[dark mantle]

it's typhon 2

takes 500 years to unload

[foggy grove]

s3

[sly drift]

Lemuen have high dph AND total damage sir.

[proud bluff]

Because the skill cycle is awful, overall dps is shit, and total damage doesn't mean shit

[sly drift]

Ah yes.. here we go again.

[minor thunder]

Any tips for Mt ex 7 ?tried many times but I just keep dying

[proud bluff]

S3 has higher cycle dps, and way enough dph to completely ignore s2

[lapis hornet]

i mean just block and get couple snipers?

[sly drift]

You call 20-30 cycle is awful?

[lapis hornet]

how hard can it be

[proud bluff]

Yes, because you need to account for the skill duration if you count cycle dps

[brisk surge]

ooooo

i heard dogshit

im here

🍿

[pure orchid]

in the time it took for u to unload a whole s2, you couldve already done 2 s3s

[proud bluff]

[sly drift]

It's for boss killing.

It's FOCUSED shot

[proud bluff]

So is s3, i don't see how it matters

[sly drift]

Why the hell we even talk about keep cycling s2 skill? That's out of question

[brisk surge]

he doesnt know that each shot of s2 takes the time i need to get a family and have kids
bro thinks skill cycle only means sp and not the time it takes for the skill to cycle

[acoustic slate]

You know what else kills bosses? Stops attacking, consumes 1 bullet every 0.5 seconds to lock onto enemies in succession; when the skill ends, bombards the positions of all locked-on enemies, dealing 300% of ATK as AoE Physical damage per bombardment (damage increases to 450% of ATK for enemies in the center of the bombardment)
Skill activation grants 5 ammo and the skill ends when all ammo is used (Can manually deactivate skill)

[sly drift]

Also I have never said S3 shit or anything. Why the hell this conversation come to comparing S2 to S3.
You're all not making any fking sense

[pure orchid]

s3 keeps her useful after bosses
s2 makes her a one trick use and forget

obviously i prefer my operators to do more than less

[acoustic slate]

Bc you have to pick one?? lol

[dark mantle]

but S2 broken vs MT boss!

[sly drift]

I pick one for which is better. Yea.. but there's a lot of scenario when S2 a lot better.

[brisk surge]

just bring 2 lemuen one with s2 one with s3 duh!!!

[dark mantle]

name said scenarios

👍

[pure orchid]

the only times i like s2 over s3 is for global, but that doesnt happen very often

[wicked viper]

like if you want to kill 1 enemy only instead of accidentally kill more than 1?

[lapis hornet]

both s2 and s3 are niche

zzz

[dark mantle]

ur so right

[pure orchid]

okay lets just say lemuen is niche

[dark mantle]

use S1

[somber stone]

afk gaming true

[sly drift]

Nah.. it's more of..
How the fk none of you can think one or two scenario where S2 is better.

[foggy grove]

low step is fire

lemuen exu s1

ril

[lapis hornet]

bro

[brisk surge]

okay you can think
name them

[dark mantle]

i mean
usually when you make the claim you're supposed to back it up

[proud bluff]

I think they asked you to do that
If even you can't, why even argue it in the first place

[lapis hornet]

i bet your ass s1 has the most clears if I go on arkrec

[pure orchid]

i can think of a scenario but im not gonna say it for u

[brisk surge]

yeah i hit ccb3 chimera with s2
oh wait.....

[dark mantle]

It's the scenario where she kills you yep

[sly drift]

Yea sure.. Shu boss? One cycle S2. Ep 10 boss? One cycle with a lot of remaining ammo. MT boss? One cycle the entire fking spawns.

Need more?

[vital vessel]

🍿

[sly drift]

It's CRAZY how ppl can cope how you will prefer S3 all the time

[pure orchid]

how the fuck are we one cycling shu boss with s2 and its slow ass fire rate

[brisk surge]

you cant make this shit up

[dark mantle]

Wow she can kill year old bosses in 1 cycle
I'm so impressed

[proud bluff]

What's the point of 1 cycle when it's worse than multiple s3 cycles
And shu boss, absolutely not

[pure orchid]

why are we using a deadeye on something that wants multiple fast hits

[teal moon]

omg, another slop discussion?

[sly drift]

It's 30 fking seconds. Your USUAL six stars skill duration.

[brisk surge]

yep

[lapis hornet]

why's all the help crowd suddenly here zzz

[brisk surge]

welcome jj

[dark mantle]

but also
shu boss when ur supposed to atk it multiple times instead of firing 1 bullet every 6 years

[sly drift]

Bad cycle is dumbass excuse for badmouthing this skill

[proud bluff]

Uh, if not the skill performance, then what should we use to compare skills ?

[dark mantle]

compare the skill to fart

she is deadeye too

👍

[brisk surge]

im waiting in the dining room waiting for the chef but the chef cant cook

[sly drift]

Farth is out of question. This bird one of the worse

[proud bluff]

no shit

[somber stone]

shartooth

[sly drift]

Like.. just use ur damn common sense. Every single of you. Who apparently can't think a scenario where S2 is better than S3

It's straight up insanity

[brisk surge]

one scenario in the how many stages do we have in the game again?
monkey thinking gif

[vital vessel]

you've been here for 5 years damn

[proud bluff]

What's weird to me, is that you can confidently think everyone is wrong but you

[lapis hornet]

ok 48 s2 clears 65 s3 clears 121 s1 clears low steps wins again

[sly drift]

Yea.. 6 collectively shit opinion doesn't make it better

[dark mantle]

see
less S2 clears than S3
S2 known slop

👍

[brisk surge]

so true euthy

[acoustic slate]

[brisk surge]

thats why you're the goat right

[dark mantle]

yep

[sly drift]

You're really think this decide anything?

[proud bluff]

Yep, s1 better, it's been scientifically proved now, bag it up boys

[brisk surge]

time to scram s1 goated

[sly drift]

Tf is that even prove anything lol

[dark mantle]

the archetto lemon S1 dudes were right....

[vital vessel]

are you coping the afk aspect of skill 2 or smt?

[foggy grove]

4 sui chetto lemon

[proud bluff]

If all metrics are ignored, all that's left are opinions
And we don't do those here

[foggy grove]

how broken

[brisk surge]

no way....

[dark mantle]

i cant believe this

[sly drift]

Why even on earth man made video prove anything with just that quantity of clear on a site?

[pure orchid]

oh yeah i can put words together too

[dark mantle]

can you?
show proof

thats right, no proof

[sly drift]

Nah.. it's just about S2 being better in certain situation than S3.
It just that these guys incapable of thinking.

Like what the fk

[forest lagoon]

hi what happen

[teal moon]

show a situations where s2 outperform s3 because til now I can't think of one

[brisk surge]

idk man where are the videos at

[teal moon]

you can also not bother since 1 situation of s2>s3 doesn't mean that s2>s3

[brisk surge]

from my knowledge when you have a hypothesis and you cant complete the experiment
you fail the science class

[sly drift]

No need video. Just a little common sense will help.

[brisk surge]

okay theoreetically im a millionare

[dark mantle]

i agree
when are you admitting you are wrong

[brisk surge]

so i am

[teal moon]

you clearly are lacking some "scientific knowledge"

[proud bluff]

Common sense never proved anything
If facts won't convince you, that's called delusion

[teal moon]

common sense as evidence could work if it's actually common sense, the thing you're trying to prove isn't common sense

[pure orchid]

every day the phrase "common sense" loses more and more meaning

not just because its becoming increasingly uncommon, but because people just call any piece of knowledge as common sense nowadays

[brisk surge]

its kinda funny when someone is being clowned on by people from 3 different channel
you know its bad

[sly drift]

3 people that lacking common sense? Yea

[dark mantle]

he said 3 channels
ur lacking the ability to read

[gray latch]

I saw a YT video glazing crownslayer and calling her broken, where do I get her

[pure orchid]

it took u that long only to say that?

[sly drift]

Say this then.
Tell your S3 to race to kill Patriot H7-4 against S2.

[vital vessel]

you can't currently

[elder flume]

Wait 6 months

[sly drift]

Tell your S3 Lemuen to RNG Mansfred dodge

[pure orchid]

oh yeah surely patriot is a valid metric in 2025 right

[ancient saffron]

how do i manipulate the prts hand to not pick up the mimic machine after it gets up again, i found a way to kill it in 3 cycles consecutively because it just iddnt pick up the dog

[gray latch]

That video was 6 months old 😭

[ancient saffron]

im assuming its something with the weakening nodes

[sly drift]

Very valid for filtering low dph low total damage. 100%

[limpid ore]

rerun is 1 year after the event after all

[gray latch]

Why's tequila available but not crownslayer

[proud bluff]

S3 has 9k dph
How tf is that low dph to you

[pure orchid]

its better at global and ignoring dodge
2 scenarios

and im pretty sure theres like a billion other scenarios in arknights where s3 is better cus it doesnt lock her to a one and done role

[limpid ore]

because he is 2+ years old already

[dark mantle]

well 9k dph is pretty low against 8k def
this is true

[gray latch]

I see..

Btw how long does it take to accumulate 300 pulls from dailies/weeklies

I'm drained (no exu)

[vital vessel]

so let's math the amount of time s2 need to dish out it's total dmg
3.5 of aiming with 1.2 delay between shots
9 . 3.5 + 8 . 1.2
31.5 + 9.6
41.1s
is this right?

[dark mantle]

yes

[pure orchid]

patriot is a wasted use case of lemuen s2 since hes mostly a stationary target
especially in h7-4 where he's surrounded by shieldguards that s3 can deal with

[sly drift]

The other scenario is just fking simply as the boss keep walking away all over the map. That's literally what Lemuen S2 for.
And these 6 collective guys still can't figure it out.

[vital vessel]

while s3 have a cooldown of 38s

[crisp bolt]

And how many bosses are like that where you can't stop them? :clueless:

[pure orchid]

yeah okay and its still 2 scenarios
and theres a billion scenarios where s3 is better
saying s2 is overall better is just, wrong

[maiden hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586588921614303233/1426222128096739338/2N11_M3.gif

[sly drift]

Just go to some.. RA boss of some shi

[proud bluff]

Sure, use lemuen on RA bosses, see what happens

[dark mantle]

Most RA bosses are blockable
Except the flying ones

[teal moon]

you know a discussion is going bad when you need to mention RA

[wicked minnow]

sir this gif is derailing the conversation. this might be against rule 4. im just saying

[proud bluff]

RA is only a consideration if you mean RAcc, and lemuen is absolute trash garbage there

[forest lagoon]

ra when ceobe

[dark mantle]

But also phys damage dealer for RA

[maiden hound]

if i speak further on this issue i will derail it

[crisp bolt]

Something something Lemon when 10k def 2 mil hp

[sly drift]

Focusing on boss on outer range is common scenario

[dark mantle]

14k dph on S2

That means she can do 4k dph vs 2 million hp

👍

[maiden hound]

i don't remember gg/lapp2 being that meta because of that no?

[sly drift]

Just very comfortable pick. Not really like.. top tier.

[vital vessel]

how is that common

[acoustic slate]

Pretty bad outside of just general content slop

[minor thunder]

Thanks !

[dark mantle]

lapp gg yu known broken combo tho

[teal moon]

broken (derogatory)

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[pure orchid]

i think u need to redefine what "common" means

we've been there before with your "common sense"

we dont need a repeat

[sly drift]

Still I'm on fking disbelief how statement like "S2 lemuen is not mid skill" will draw these guys here.

These guys only know white and black.

[proud bluff]

It's called "opportunity cost" actually

[pure orchid]

its niche

2 scenarios is niche

2 is a pretty small number

[sly drift]

YESSSS... That's literally what I'm talking on since very beginning.

[pure orchid]

"common sense" should tell u that

[sly drift]

2?

[teal moon]

no, the point is that people doesn't have infinite materials (unlike what reddit thinks). We already said there are some scenarios where it can be better but it's not enough to warrant it, atp I'd rather use someone else

[pure orchid]

look u bump that up to 3 and thats still too few

[dark mantle]

3 rounds up to 5

👍

[sly drift]

Urghhh...

[acoustic slate]

Damn yall broke him (good ending)

[pure orchid]

i opened a portal

whos going first

not me

[wicked minnow]

ok but what if i upgrade all the usable skills on units. would you s2m3 lemuen

[dark mantle]

upgrade S1

Good for AFK

[smoky halo]

thorns has infinity total damage

[acoustic slate]

Lowstep goat

[wicked minnow]

ill think about that one lowkey

[sly drift]

This conversation drop my IQ by fkin 200.

[smoky halo]

thorns > lemuen

[dark mantle]

your iq was like 50 before this convo tho

[foggy grove]

sakiko>lemuen fraud?

[acoustic slate]

-150 damn

[proud bluff]

Stats are saying it, i'm a man of science, i believe it

[dark mantle]

sakiko also has infinite total damage

It's true

so sakiko > thorns > lemuen

[acoustic slate]

Don’t forget blaze 1

[sly drift]

It's very simple thinking sir.
You need Focused damage? S2
You need spread damage? S3
Because spreading S3 damage will severely ruin the damage on what the main target is (Boss or some shi)

Very common situation

[vital vessel]

s3 is not spread dmg tho

[sly drift]

I'm still on disbelief (part 2)

[sly drift]

Play the game please.

[vital vessel]

it's still 8k dph on everyone on the area

it doesn't lower the dmg

[acoustic slate]

She isn’t typhon lol

[wicked minnow]

[sly drift]

It (Try) to choose targets equally in her range bruh.

[vital vessel]

isnt it marked? just like s2?

[sly drift]

My bad with my phrase

[wicked minnow]

deadeye priority

[vital vessel]

no i mean if we're comparing to s2

[wicked minnow]

but it prio units with 0 stacks of s3

[vital vessel]

i would just face lemuen to a wall

[smoky halo]

least stacks

[wicked minnow]

i mean yeah

[smoky halo]

not 0 stacks

[wicked minnow]

that's what people do

[wicked minnow]

ye this is what i meant

just didnt word it right

[smoky halo]

bro u don't understand thorns has higher total damage

[vital vessel]

are you even using lemuen s3 right Yuva dude

[smoky halo]

he's better than lemuen

[sly drift]

You're talking gibberish.

[dark mantle]

thorns piss for low step tho

meanwhile lemon good

[sly drift]

Who the hell even talk about permanent skill

[vital vessel]

because you're talking about total damage over 41.1s

then they make fun of you by comparing with thorns infinite duration which has theoretically has infinite total dmg

[sly drift]

Cycle based skill.
Do I really need to explicitly stated this.

Maybe I need if I'm talking to these 8 guys

[vital vessel]

and do you realise you can do 2 cycle of s3 with 1 cycle of s2 in the duration of 40s?

[smoky halo]

thorns s3 is 25 hours long not permanent

👍

[dark mantle]

[pure orchid]

elite ball knowledge

[vital vessel]

elite ball knowledge

[dark mantle]

elite ball knowledge

[sly drift]

It's about doing things the most effective for that ONE cycle of S2.
Apparently you don't understand this S2 convo too

[vital vessel]

friston debut 🥹

[sly drift]

Or like.. Very high def. focused attack.

[vital vessel]

why are you so fixated on 1 cycle of 41s?

even in endgame gamemode like is4 for example you use s3

[sly drift]

Because HOW DEF WORKSSSS

And dodge on top of that

[vital vessel]

and who has highest def?

what lemuen skill people use him?

[sly drift]

Idk.. maybe some max risked randos elite

[vital vessel]

no it's is4 ed4

[proud bluff]

Things that get eaten by ceobe then
And that would not even be scratched by lemuen

You never touched max risk cc from the looks of it

[sly drift]

Ceobe will take the job

Yea

[sly drift]

Excuse me

[dark mantle]

ccb3 shieldguards
22k def👍

[vital vessel]

ye ye i just remembered cc

[proud bluff]

Yippee, hitting that sweet sweet 5% minimum damage

[sly drift]

What res?

Somehow it still takes ceobe times even with that diabolical def

[proud bluff]

Res is irrelevant anyway, if you can't pass it with phys you don't have any other option
And ifrit shred said res

[wicked viper]

its easier to reduce 100 res to 50 res than reducing from 22k def to 6k def

[sly drift]

Bruh I remember some robot or whatever it was. Has 120 res or some shi

Pinch out i think

[brisk surge]

wow movie still going

🍿

paid for one ticket get to watch 3 movies

[dark mantle]

It's almost been 1 hour

[proud bluff]

You even get the director's cut

[sly drift]

It's done bruh. Ffs

[vital vessel]

yea talking to a wall is pretty hard

[sly drift]

True.. 9 walls

Rocks

[vital vessel]

nah just one

[dark mantle]

[vital vessel]

i'm genuinely trying to understand what makes you so convinced

[sly drift]

Of course some logical thinking

It's very simple thinking sir.
You need Focused damage? S2
You need spread damage? S3
Because spreading S3 damage will severely ruin the damage on what the main target is (Boss or some shi)

[vital vessel]

yea explain, esp about the 1 cycle thing

[sly drift]

That is after understanding this.

That's too far for you

[vital vessel]

we talked about this
s3 is not spread dmg

[sly drift]

It's choosing everyone on her range.

That's what I mean spreading

For each ammo

[vital vessel]

yea that's why you don't spread her dmg duh

[wicked viper]

ig you save 5 seconds with s2!

[sly drift]

I understand sir.. that's not what I'm pointing at

[smoky halo]

90 res

[vital vessel]

yea what exactly?

[sly drift]

Try H7-4.
Chapter 7 boss Patriot is too shit

[proud bluff]

Erm sounds like science triumph again

[wicked viper]

are you aware you can point lemuen to the wall and she wont be distracted

[smoky halo]

wouldnt lem be distracted by the shieldguard in h7 4 lol

[sly drift]

You still need 2 cycle for lemuen S3.
I've proven it
The big S2? One of course

[regal frost]

wall op

[viscid mist]

Are people arguing about Lemuen s2 s3 on the big 25

[smoky halo]

omg hi sator

big fan

[viscid mist]

It's pretty obvious that lemuen s2 is only useful when you need the skill to last a long ass time

S3 is better otherwise

[brisk surge]

hi satori i'd take a warn if you also warn everyone else involved

[viscid mist]

Or if you need to care about the 5 enemies that have dodge in the game

[wicked viper]

are you aware that 2 cycle of s3 is only 5s slower than 1 second of s2

which is why people keep telling you that s2 has cycle issue

and since you mention H7-4

wouldnt lemuen also kill enemies around patriot too

instead of just patriot lol

wouldnt H7-4 be exactly why S3 > S2

[sly drift]

You can use plume to focus on onlu Patriot. For this very purpose

[proud bluff]

Oh so we bring even more shit ops to cope now

[viscid mist]

the only stage where i remember lemuen s2 being used is h15-4

[wicked viper]

thats not the point

[dark mantle]

But why would you want to focus on patrick
Isnt killing everyone better than killing just 1 guy

[viscid mist]

Because she was used to kill golems

So longer skill duration and high dph is better

and the aoe was not relevant

So very specific requirements

[wicked viper]

killing multiple > killing 1 when you mentioned H7-4 here

[smoky halo]

just m9 lemuen bro

whats the issue

🚬

[viscid mist]

s1 doesnt exist

[dark mantle]

nope s1 broken for low step

[brisk surge]

but arkrec.....

[smoky halo]

s1 has the most records in arkrec

[dim merlin]

True

[smoky halo]

‼️

[sly drift]

Yea.. tell these 9 guys that S2 is better than S3 on some certain scenario

[viscid mist]

this has to be bait

[brisk surge]

LMAO

[dark mantle]

LOL

[proud bluff]

🥹

[smoky halo]

🚬

[wicked viper]

10 guys now

surely

[brisk surge]

satori please come by more often 🙏 we all missed you

[viscid mist]

what scenario do you think s2 is better than s3 then

[wicked viper]

he listed CC enemy

and H7-4

[sly drift]

Like.. this is very simple logical thinking that these 9 dudes fail

[viscid mist]

lemuen in cc

[teal moon]

hi satori, it's been a long time

[smoky halo]

max risk shieldguards i heard

[brisk surge]

omg moderator pvp time 🍿

[lapis hornet]

isn't that the obvious thing to do

[smoky halo]

wtf new player with m9

teach me ur ways dalao

[dark mantle]

wtf flex in my strat channel
ban this guy

[viscid mist]

flex in strat chat

[regal frost]

where pot 6

[lapis hornet]

im f2p v sad

[dark mantle]

but can u beat ig4 with m9 lemon

[viscid mist]

wtf is ig4

[vital vessel]

it's coop i think

[lapis hornet]

1st copy kyostinv religiously

[viscid mist]

🤮

[smoky halo]

ok subscribing now

[vital vessel]

lmao

[dark mantle]

[viscid mist]

unless you are a tryhard player you will never need to master s2

situational use is so specific you may as well use another op

[vital vessel]

i'm m3ing s2, cuz guides seems to use s2 over s3 cuz of the waveclearing off-ammo lemon has

[smoky halo]

wtf tryhard

[viscid mist]

who uses lemuen in guides

[smoky halo]

imagine tryharding arknuts

[vital vessel]

low-end borrows

[dark mantle]

Wtf lemon in guides
Kill this guy

[viscid mist]

this is insane

you can borrow wisadel, logos, mlynar

and you borrow lemuen

[lapis hornet]

what guide uses s2 wtf

[glass monolith]

Someone quick start making Lemuen + Ambriel/Plume(for mark) guides

[lapis hornet]

you not even gonna find it on borrow

[brisk surge]

what's insane is that this conversation spanned for more than 1 hour

[vital vessel]

🍿

[smoky halo]

seek help

[viscid mist]

for this channel it's not that big of a margin

[foggy grove]

kyo's guide

[viscid mist]

but it still went 1 hour too long

🫡

[foggy grove]

[dark mantle]

[lapis hornet]

ok let's talk about smth more productive

like which vg is better

[viscid mist]

silverash alter

[vital vessel]

it is useful cuz of the multiphases the shitboss has

[lapis hornet]

zamn I'm malding they made sa a vg but maybe he'll actually be good

[viscid mist]

s2 looks interesting

[vital vessel]

the preview is promising

[dark mantle]

preview is promising enough that CN players are mad because they think he sucks

[smoky halo]

hes a vg

[vital vessel]

also karlan now finally has proper niche 🥹

[smoky halo]

so optimized out by default

🚬

[viscid mist]

any op in 6 months cn didnt doompost

i guess tragodia and exualt

[smoky halo]

tragussy

[dark mantle]

leizi hoshi haruka

[viscid mist]

leizialt 🤒

[smoky halo]

leizi

bruh

[wicked minnow]

i thought people doomposted leizi

[smoky halo]

bro doesnt know

[dark mantle]

did they?
idr
i just remember the massive essay on EN

[smoky halo]

k*wi moment

[wheat arch]

Leizi was doomposted a bit

[full stream]

A mlynar competitor not surprising

[willow sun]

im ootl, how was she doomposted

[smoky halo]

the dps and total dmg is worse than mlynar

then u realize she has better range and interacts with relics better

or well ig range is subjective

[willow sun]

oh

[smoky halo]

smh bro doesnt know all the drama

[viscid mist]

IS merchant

[smoky halo]

better than gen content slopper

[viscid mist]

mlynar will solve ccb4

[smoky halo]

surely

[astral cosmos]

spuria solves ccb19

[smoky halo]

leizi s1 powercreeps known good skill degen s2 🗣️

[fickle ravine]

[gray latch]

The content getting beat is my sanity

[smoky halo]

easily yes

just be good at the game fr

🚬

[fickle ravine]

I have nothing but great respect to 4* only players
No f**king way it’s easily my ass

[gray latch]

A lemon is all you need

[gray latch]

Does 4* only count borrows or no borrows

I copy kyostin and borrow logos or wisadel

[fickle ravine]

Not counting mate

But with 1 6* and low rarity is still great in it own way

[gray latch]

Yea is comfy when new
Just timings need mald and 4 or 5 resets

If I get 180 pulls in 30h I can hard pity exu or wis 😔

[fickle ravine]

Wish you all the best on tomorrow free pull mate OwO

I went 295 pulls for a copy of yu

[gray latch]

How long did it take for 290 pulls
I started near end of necrasse banner and did story ch3

[fickle ravine]

6-7 months for 300 pulls

But if you are new it’s going to be faster

[gray latch]

I thought stories give a few 10s of pulls

[fickle ravine]

Pretty much yes

[smoky halo]

4 star can borrow

as long as u borrow a 4 star

lol

some stages r really hard and need 13 4stars

[gray latch]

Is there a t*erlist of 4★s
(I saw tequila and krooster from beginner guide and got them)

[astral cosmos]

they're 5*

[gray latch]

That explains why I run out of lmd trying to invest..

[smoky halo]

there is a tierlist but its for 4 star only

the meta is different there

and does not translate well to normal gameplay

lol

[gray latch]

I'll have that, I made three archers lvl 30 after seeing kyostin use them

[smoky halo]

the good ones are deepcolor gravel beanstalk myrtle humus utage click indigo ethan

totter pinecone

those are the ones i frequently use

[gray latch]

I have half of the ones listed

[smoky halo]

when playing 4 star only

[gray latch]

Got totter recently

[smoky halo]

hes shit unless maxed

so lol

[brisk surge]

90% of 4 star clears is deepcolor the rest is 10% lets be real fib

[smoky halo]

same with indigo

shit unless maxed

thats why this tierlist doesnt work

[gray latch]

Is there a way to get deepcolor outside gacha

[smoky halo]

cos it assumes eveeyone is maxed

deepcolor is shit unless ur playing 4 star only

[fringe solstice]

silvergun has a good video about strong 4 stars but it isn't really a tierlist

[smoky halo]

scene is literally free and better

radian is free and better than scene

[gray latch]

I like beanstalk's pea
Baits skills

[gray latch]

I noticed I have utage humus and indigo

[smoky halo]

indigo shit unless maxed

idk humus performance low invest

[gray latch]

I guess she'll remain lvl 1

[smoky halo]

i only used units at maxed

[brisk surge]

maxed as in like actual maxed

[smoky halo]

except for a few ones

maxed as in maxed dupes

as well

lol

[gray latch]

I haven't farmed chips for them yet

[brisk surge]

4 star units are just so shit in terms of stats you need everything max dupes max masteries max mods

even levels

[smoky halo]

yeah u need maxed everything just for stats

[gray latch]

My Estelle is 2 dupes away from max pot

[smoky halo]

even spending 500k lmd for 5% more stats

[gray latch]

Maitomaru 1

[smoky halo]

cos they need all the stat they can get lol

4 star only is cheap anyway

i dont even login often

and still have everyone maxed

no need pulls

barely need mats

[gray latch]

Were you a long time plater

[smoky halo]

no

maybe

idk wat u consider long time

[gray latch]

2 years

[smoky halo]

yeah ive been playing for 2 years

my 4 star account isnt 2 years tho

[gray latch]

Didn't know black headers on missions meant challenge mode available

[wide finch]

😐

[hearty tangle]

Any non-leumen havers in the chat: how do you guys deal with phase 4 mt ex 8 boss

[regal frost]

show 6*s

[hearty tangle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586588958885150721/1425290416558706870/0DC367DD-6987-41B1-BF32-2EC9D0BA7A91.png?ex=68ff7063&is=68fe1ee3&hm=35d0a624e631d19ffb58bb3c58bdff8c9c364fcf82d6c1e3184c4e3e41daed22&

[regal frost]

logos S3

[hearty tangle]

Aw man i alr use s1 for phases 1+2

[regal frost]

https://youtu.be/D4IyPAOsoxU?si=3MzJqZJexEpxk3Iq

or just push the boss off

[hearty tangle]

What the toilet

[void terrace]

Damn i understand the hate about blazealter being too dependant on yu

But shes so good when you have him

Especially when i use Vivi too

[glass monolith]

(Me casually cheesing CCB3 with Blazer because i couldn't be bothered to do that shit)

[void terrace]

Real

Like she cheezes so many hard bosses

With element damage

[glass monolith]

CCB3 was stun cheese

Except i was me so i took risks i like more over risks in guides i copy so when Blazer got oneshot by spider i was at first assuming basically everything.
Then boot up Excel and find out spiderplosion was 10500 damage

[void terrace]

• stares at my unraised crownslayer*

[vocal leaf]

grandpa fight

[glass monolith]

I will aura farm CCB4 friend supports

[void terrace]

Im more surprised he managed to counter all 4 of patriots hits

Individuallt

Was that the aspd buff workingM

[plucky grove]

i mean patriot has half atk and grandpa has def buffs

[void terrace]

No as in the speed of the counter

[glass monolith]

No he means S3 has cap on how often he counters based on his attack interval or something

[plucky grove]

oh

[void terrace]

Im wondering if i cam pull off stupid aak shenanegaims by forcing him to fire a crap ton of hits

[glass monolith]

Also i think it wasn't 4 counters per 4x attack but 2 counters

[plucky grove]

i assume its not static, so the atkspd buffs from shu and mon3tr allow grandpa to counter faster

(or it could just be some jank and grandpa has infinite counter speed for multihits)

[void terrace]

Just tested him with aak

Even with monster buff he only fires 5 counters

[quartz seal]

Guys, I'm attempting this anni here, the one that has a cannon that constantly fires on the last operator deployed (supposedly), but around 310, a nuke comes down and instantly kills my core operators which are deployed in the red square, and I can't figure out why, my operator in the blue which is the last one deployed is still alive, so the nuke target shouldn't have change.

I'm doing auto until there to try to record, but I have repeated a couple times and couldn't notice what causes that

[glass monolith]

It attacks higher block count actually

[quartz seal]

really?

[glass monolith]

And funny slimes give +1 block count up to like +6 just to troll cannon at your face and worse timing

Personally didn't use blockers (Just throw Logos at it, i was no 6* gaminging) #strategy message and baited in bottom right corner. Late game drones and top left box snipers or whatever like only things which might need attention (Edit: Oh and top right box )

[quartz seal]

Did it, thanks for the pointer on the block, I just retreated my Saria and continued playing, had to deploy my Texas Alter a couple more times but it was fine

I haven't played in a while, so I'm quite rust. Tried to brute force, but can't tank the nuke

Used Ifrit in the middle because it looked perfect for her Thorns, Chen, Kal with mont3r to bait the nuke and Texas as panic button.

I stopped playing before logos, didn't even know him, looks like the ultimate slug killer (watched a video here)

[glass monolith]

Well you can tank it. With 3000+ HP because it is 3000 true damage

[full terrace]

@south spindle Spine killed! Safety Inspection F1, the triple borrow 😂

Actually thats an Emergency one 🤣

[glass monolith]

This is ze run

[south spindle]

Tinman cheater!!!

[full terrace]

The normal one is very unstable because

[south spindle]

lol nice

[full terrace]

Sometimes the Shieldguard tanks those 2 leftover longer, sometimes not

But the Emergency one its stable

You can kill it

[south spindle]

My respect for beanstalk skyrocketed with Dense Jungle gameplay

Lmao

[full terrace]

Finally broke the curse of the triple borrow cant kill Spine F1

[craggy basin]

What are some good starting squads and ops for higher risk is2? I usually do medic squad with kal IS module since sometimes you need a good healer early on if you get poison mist or something but maybe there’s something better

[teal moon]

#is-station is a better channel

[void terrace]

Hmmm

This is funny

But narantuya is one of the few ranged ops who can tank aak

And now with monster buff

She can get that sweet 100 aspd

[craggy basin]

Oh thanks

Didn’t realize that existed

[cerulean hawk]

hmmm you're not my lemon

[south spindle]

Wouldn't redirect that

This is a serious channel so if someone has ideas they can state it here

[cerulean hawk]

#is-station is a casual channel remember~

[void terrace]

Damn pennace support squad time

3 specialists for immortal pennance

Exu can give emergency barrier to keep her alive longer

Net net exus aspd debuff and aaks aspd buff plus shu's passive buff plus thornaslter kinda cancel out

To give you gigantic unkillabale pennace with a shit ton of buffs

Somwhere around 26k max hp plus barrier when exu barrier is used

[vocal leaf]

it’s not true, they don’t give a f about other people

[vocal leaf]

which difficulty? someone correct me if i’m wrong but i hate kaltsit even with alpha mod, she’s bad, monster dies very easily and the true damage doesn’t exist because enemies have to much hp, that’s my experience from d15

[void terrace]

I mean shes ok if you dont have a better option

[prisma ledge]

If given Medic voucher, who would u choose as your first 6*? - Kalstit, Mon3tr, Eyja Alter?

[void terrace]

Think of her as a healer as use monster as an assain

Not a lane holder

[void terrace]

Mon3ter

Only pick kalt if you desperately need lane holder

[prisma ledge]

Assuming like, theres two 3* ops like Spot or Kroos and whatever

Ahhhh

[craggy basin]

Working at 10, and true tbh

[void terrace]

Kalt can get you past first 2 floors nothing more

If you are picking sni med

Why pick the medic

[vocal leaf]

yeah i think that’s my problem monster couldn’t stand one of the lanes in bsl stage, it was so sad

[void terrace]

Why not take a good sniper like lemuen

[craggy basin]

My logic was just so i could have a decent blocker and a healer, but I get what you mean

[void terrace]

With proper timing lemuen is an unconventional but stupidly strong opener

[prisma ledge]

Oh, true, no need for frd then

[void terrace]

I mean discounting wis

[prisma ledge]

I can do Wis start tbh

[void terrace]

Err monster is very shitty as frd

Wis start is usually the strongest

[craggy basin]

I’ll try with wisadel then

[void terrace]

Only reason to not start with her is if you are bored with the game

Wis start is the most relaible option in almost all IS

[prisma ledge]

Ahh

True

[void terrace]

Like kalt is a medic but monsters main value is in being deplpyed in a safe adjacent tile

To spam true damage

[prisma ledge]

Assuming Wis start, then mon3tr next if given medic voucher?

[void terrace]

See if you need lane holding

But yes that can work

With wis honestly whatever you pick dosent matter

She can solo pretty much everything with good timing and 3 star blockers to stall

[vocal leaf]

d10 is very high, hmm it’s hard to tell, you definitely must use the e2 squads, pick the one with the classes you use the most, is2 runs are very fast and scuffed, you must be sure to start pick the right ops from the start, from spec/caster squad is one of the strongest and exialt is good starter

[void terrace]

Hmmm exalt is a weird starter for me caus the spec vanguard sniper squad itself is ass

[vocal leaf]

in one of my runs i did mizuki start, he’s pretty good and and it’s a great lane holder for bsl

[vocal leaf]

i feel uncomfortable with any of them, is2 is a very scuffed experience

[prisma ledge]

Cheers

Will work out a consistent Wis start then.

[vocal leaf]

i would say sniper/med but i don’t use snipers aside from nara, and the medics will be only mont3r and eyjalt

[prisma ledge]

I can kind of clear IS2 low diff with mostly Wis and not need air targeting units like Nara - though theres like Thorns, Mlynar and non-snipers that target air. Just need timing I guess

[vocal leaf]

you should never draft thorns tho, is2 runs are really short, you can’t waste hope, at least for d15

[void terrace]

I mean sniper has:

1. Wis, most broken solo op

2. Rosmontis: infinite wall IS module

3. Archetto: infinite range plus party buff for atk recovery is module

4. Lemuen, walking (or rolling?) tactical nuke with ignore dodge option

5. Typhon, ray, chalter multiple niche stall/slow/boss killers

6. Naran is kinda there??? She can kinda open with her s1 maxed out

Sniper is lowkey the most busted class in IS

In terms of raw firepower at least

[vocal leaf]

from that list i only have nara and ray
chalter and typhon are not e2, so for me spec/caster works better with exu, ela, mizuki, logos and even frd, but i don’t use them that much

[void terrace]

Yeah rip

Spec cast better for you thete

There

[vocal leaf]

support/def squad might gets better with tragodia, shu is almost a must draft is2

suzu and shamare are also very useful, one of the problems with is2 d15 is that enemies get stronger while the relics are still the same and they almost don’t provide anything

[hollow turtle]

What support should I use?

[leaden sierra]

probably ulpi

[hollow turtle]

ive never used or seen his kit before, anything to note? Im also prob gonna have to equip tequila to activate the e2 perks for support.

I did a round and the moment I used those machine buffs, It tored me so much.

Maybe its cuz of my positioning

Should I put lemon and wis on the very right on top

or will they die from the snipes

[leaden sierra]

Basically, his entire kit is about being an unkillable statstick.

[hollow turtle]

ah ic ic

[leaden sierra]

if you can use your entire team to replace ascalon on the right, you'll be fine. Use ulpi skill 2:
https://youtu.be/aJRRdwF9l_k?si=it_sunUUaW6ZfkBo

[hollow turtle]

alr i'll check it out 🫡

[hollow turtle]

can I use defenders (spot and gummy to heal ulpi, cuz like if im gonna do this, i need my medics a bit farther away that or I risk putting casters/snipers on top bench, but I feel like i'll get sniped there

[harsh patio]

how can i get past tr-15 idk what deployment order theyre expecting me to use

[foggy grove]

charger like plumes gives full dp refund on retreat

[leaden sierra]

ofc, but keep in mind, by borrowing you'll only do a one-time clear. To auto this (for an instant, clear) you gotta do it without supports. I think if you tryhard enough, your team can do it, but if it's too hard, you have the option of clearing something like lungmen downtown or outskirts, and autoing that.

It's less sanity efficient, but way faster.

[harsh patio]

i know, but i dont understand how theyre expecting me to kill everything while retreating

the big guy up top is too tanky

[hollow turtle]

oh right yeah.. welp at least I'll get the uh first-time rewards thingy

which is what im looking forward too

[leaden sierra]

The famous tr-15 roadblock, welcome doktah!

[harsh patio]

i thought the famous roadblock was 3-8

[leaden sierra]

I mean... you can brute force 3-8 with a op borrow these days, while you can't borrow in tr-15

[foggy grove]

they are not,jess shred it

[harsh patio]

yeah but then i have like no damage down below to actually kill off the rest?

[foggy grove]

amiya

[harsh patio]

she doesnt kill them fast enough

[foggy grove]

this is mostly a meme but

even fang can kill

[mighty zodiac]

bruh wtf how he one shot all my characters

[leaden sierra]

The whole point of that stage is to teach about dp refund from reteating. Sleep on it for a little while, there is more than 1 solution

[leaden sierra]

lazer goes burrr

[harsh patio]

yeah i figured that was the point i just got kinda miffed since ive been on it for a good ten minutes and im trying to blitz through stages for the originite prime <.<

[leaden sierra]

See those stones? If you drop them on her head, she'll become a quiet girl, save them for phase 2, but don't have operators under them, or she'll drop them on you

[harsh patio]

i found a spot where jessica can shoot into the 2nd lane so that'll probably help with the last tiny bit of damage i need

[mighty zodiac]

ohhh I see

I thought I can do it without the stones

[signal vector]

use the pillars

[mighty zodiac]

later the cd very long

[leaden sierra]

also can use exu to mark her for lemu

[leaden sierra]

oh no, I was refering to the tr-15 question

[signal vector]

she has damage reduction if you let her fly around and do what she wants, use the pillar and remove the damage reduction, after that your exu can shoot her down in like 2 seconds

[mighty zodiac]

I didn't know she could do that

but now I do

[leaden sierra]

you can also use lemu to mark her from a safe spot, like so:
https://youtu.be/AgxRbttkc9c?si=ydVowHoftyFlsaEb&t=735

[hollow turtle]

do u guys think this is good positioning

I think I lowkey messed up

[regal frost]

if it doesn't work you can just redo

force close game so you don't lose sanity

[leaden sierra]

is ulpi facing right? I can't tell, but you should be fine

[hollow turtle]

waaaah :0

[hollow turtle]

he is yeah dw lol

[regal frost]

only works for annihilation

[hollow turtle]

dayum good tip ty 🤌

whats up with their targeting?

do they target randomly or something?

[hollow turtle]

honestly should I replace silence for ptilopsis instead?

cuz aoe heal + sp recovery?

note all e1

[leaden sierra]

probably this

[hollow turtle]

weird but alright

[hollow turtle]

i give up lmao

[lucid idol]

anyone knows a decent afk strat for H13-4?

[leaden sierra]

huh? you failed annihilation?

[hollow turtle]

its the big guys, my exu alt losses all ammo to take down only 2-3 of em.
While they deal a lot of dmg to my melee units and make them fall asleep 💤

cooked I tell ya

I could try making the Ulp in the same position but this time facing the right and could wipe em out

but I realized after a few rounds, my snipers get shot down on the top

idk where and idk why

and how

lowkey making me tweak

[elder flume]

Switch the song

[leaden sierra]

you should build around ulpi, not away from him.

[hollow turtle]

Ulpi tooked real good care of the left, the right was a huge problem

WAIT

[leaden sierra]

and yeah, stall it, so that the songs either end, or are on slow

[hollow turtle]

WHAT IF

I switched around the support units

and used archaro or whatevr her name is

instead of ulpi

and have my units focus on the left

wait no..

hm

wait maybe

GAH I'll try again tmrw if the annihilation is still available

[leaden sierra]

Well, you could remove your walter and borrow a walter. She can solo that stage.

[hollow turtle]

fr?

I'll try that next time then

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its joever

[lapis hornet]

zamn we doing h13 4 afk

[leaden sierra]

here:
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wHRHY6EwQ/

[leaden sierra]

don't

[hollow turtle]

ty

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is that ur own ulpi or borrowed

[leaden sierra]

they borrowed, team here

[scarlet fulcrum]

if modless logos SL7 can carry this anni, idk why this team cant

[leaden sierra]

They probably can do it without borrowing, but micromanagement needed, kinda hard to test

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats actually quite lucky start account

[scarlet fulcrum]

Funnel right side to mid, then brute force there, u can even ignore mandra DR

[lapis hornet]

kirn plz teach h13-4 afk

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u have all the ops, i can just seach bili

[lapis hornet]

actually nvm still.need to time bombs L map

[scarlet fulcrum]

there is pure afk

[lapis hornet]

[crisp bolt]

hope you're ready to pull ave mujica ops :clueless:

[lapis hornet]

6 steps

that's still with bombs zzz

[crisp bolt]

shame boss mechanic can't be ignored 😔

[scarlet fulcrum]

bomb just for gate

[crisp bolt]

boss can't die without dealing with gate

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea u cant process to p2