strategy

[regal frost]

for speedrun?

[strong nest]

but it require an upgrade which gives you one plan upon entering shop

eh yeah

pretty much guaranteed cannot sacking

[regal frost]

ooo

wifey so smart

I'll try it later

[strong nest]

[umbral mountain]

Insane stuff, will do this next

[gilded ocean]

As I was calculating maximum dmg output with top sniper-type operators skills 2 and/or 3, I realised that Exu alt + Lemuen are just the next step higher in terms of dmg compared to Ela + Ray.
Both in terms of dmg, aspd, and skill aspd Exu alter + Lemuen are very alike to the pre-existing operators Ray + Ela.
Pretty cool.

[vital vessel]

[full terrace]

Exu2 has total damage of 180k iirc according to @south spindle

And if she crits all the way it's 240k

[south spindle]

145K potless

160K potted

[full terrace]

Pretty sure you said 180k

[south spindle]

average damage

[full terrace]

Lemme go check

[south spindle]

maybe mispoke or typed

but i think my initial calculator had a mistake

so i may have said 160K potless

[full terrace]

Oi you misinfoed me I trusted you

[south spindle]

unlucky

🥀

[full terrace]

🤣 🤣

So 160 or 180?

[south spindle]

160K is pot6

[full terrace]

Okay

[south spindle]

P1 - 145K
P6 - 163K

Average DPS

[umbral mountain]

Surely it's worth to get pot5 exulter

[south spindle]

do you have p4

p4 -> p5 is 2K damage on S2

[pure orchid]

oh... mt9 is actually pretty fast to farm

blessing and curse of killgating

[south spindle]

we care about how fast things take farm in the big 6th anni?

the future is now x6 auto rewards

[pure orchid]

i know sweep exists but hey seconds are seconds

anyways wis mid tile face up

and sleep

lin works but needs help

[full terrace]

"Speedrun farm is dead" - Space, 2025

[pure orchid]

let me cope my seconds 🥹

[full terrace]

😂

[pure orchid]

now i can play wuwa 10 seconds earlier

[full terrace]

[pure orchid]

or sleep

im quite sleepy rn

[glass monolith]

Future of HG designing 10 minutes long farm stages with 17 kill gates and ass mechanics

[pure orchid]

dont give them ideas...

make a solution then sell the problem ahh

[regal frost]

go sleep cutie

[pure orchid]

wtf suraj

[glass monolith]

We have MT-8 and MT-10 as farm stages Whatever ass design i can make up nothing can outscale those madlads on HG

[pure orchid]

okay who tf farms MT10

[regal frost]

me-

[pure orchid]

doesnt everyone have like a bajillion fluid

[glass monolith]

I have 400 aketon, i farm it because i dont want to farm those 2 stages

[pure orchid]

oh poor u

[regal frost]

I was on 50 when event started

[pure orchid]

im ngl im just gonna clear shop then go back to 1-7

[regal frost]

fair

[pure orchid]

i dont need ts 🥀

[regal frost]

I'll tuck you into bed once you're done

[full terrace]

You need to specify which fluids. The reproduction ones sure everyone got bajillion of em 😏

[regal frost]

smh

[pure orchid]

yeah so uh does anyone want my fluids

i mean what who said that

[limpid ore]

[full terrace]

It's going off-topic we should stop here before Light bonks us

[pure orchid]

true

im scared of light

[full stream]

🥶

[lime lantern]

how do i mt-8

lemuen and exu keep prioing targets thats inside tje barrier

then iget fried by some juiced up runners

[elder flume]

Lemuen ver

Exu2 ver

[umbral mountain]

I have pot 5 rn

Random free pull got me pot 5

In 9 days it's pot 6

[south spindle]

[lime lantern]

wait u can just lock onto the boss?

[elder flume]

statue has taunt

[lime lantern]

wait why doesnt her s2 lock on to it

😔

my lemuen is e1 only so she doesnt kill before seal comes along then it eats the bulets

[elder flume]

its why Jess is there

Lemuen must shoot everything into statue before seal appears

Lemuen cant mark whats in her range during sleep

so you take advantage of it giving her permanent +75 aspd

instead of doing 6 shots dealing half statue hp total and having to wait another 34sp to do it again

you have Exu2 to burst seal if you need to

in place of Jess

[pure orchid]

ayeee same lem spot as me

[full terrace]

What Lem spot, that's Wis tile #strategy message

😏

[lime lantern]

can i place her inside the bubble

does that work

cause atm when seal spawns statue is still up

[elder flume]

just put Exu2 on Jess tile no

letting Exu2 be in statue range will just add more healing pressure

[lime lantern]

Like

behind lemon?

[ruby oyster]

Any medic to replace purestream on MT-10?
Cardigan keeps dying 🥲

[lime lantern]

ah

[elder flume]

eh you can put her behind Lemuen too ig since they both do too much damage

[lime lantern]

nah i get fried

my defenders get cooked by the ammo dudes

its fine if no exu skill downtime but yk

[elder flume]

ye Lava skill is for downtime

Beagle or Cuora is nice since their def on skill will mean they wont die from swords

i cant do a proper Lemuen and Exu2 same squad run cuz mine is E2

[elder flume]

pretty much any healer that can get you back to Cardigan full hp

if 1 not enough then 2 then 3 then 4

this is 4 medics

[lime lantern]

atm im starting out like this

without exu down almost everyhtjng dies to swords

[elder flume]

get a medic before Lemuen then

can you Ines skill before any sniper wakes up

[lime lantern]

Wdym any sniper

[elder flume]

right side laterano snipers

[lime lantern]

yeah

that one woke up from ines base attacks

[elder flume]

yea that should be enough dp to put a medic down

while putting out Lemuen fast

[lime lantern]

so start with ines

then medic lemuen kroos

alr

[lime lantern]

pti+beagle didnt tank sword

[left kestrel]

Need more medic👍

[lime lantern]

sildnce skill just got up

[left kestrel]

Wha

[lime lantern]

Idk

i guess e1l1 beagle not enuf?

[left kestrel]

Yeah

[elder flume]

use Miksaparato then

yours is raised

S2

[left kestrel]

Try cuora

She tanky

[lime lantern]

proly need to cook something with exu in the back

havent raised

will try miksa

bros gonna do no dmg without exu down tho

[elder flume]

so does Beagle

[glass monolith]

Do you have something more leveled among defenders? maxed Beagle holds them some time

[lime lantern]

true lol

[lime lantern]

i have maxed spot

[glass monolith]

There is sort by DEF when selecting operators for squad

[lime lantern]

and uhh i think e1l30 cardigan

[elder flume]

Mik is fine

should get skill if plop down early

[left kestrel]

S2?

[elder flume]

E1 1 stats are almost the same as Beagle

ye

they have E1 Mik

[lime lantern]

oh my god bruh miksa dies too

[elder flume]

damn

[left kestrel]

Idk if i should build miksa or not

[lime lantern]

doesnt get his s2 in time

[left kestrel]

I already have other tank

[elder flume]

inb4 no skill level

ig im raising my Miksa to E1 1

[lime lantern]

waiy no

u right

its sl1

[glass monolith]

Why you have them level 1 anyway, promotion sort of resets level up cost

[elder flume]

me or cas ?

[lime lantern]

idk man its day 5

lmd is super rough out here

[glass monolith]

Cas, what you do i don't know and i dare not get in your way

[elder flume]

idk what cas has them at
i just see their 7-9 attempt and deduce from there

[glass monolith]

Well yea game don't really hold punches back, and this event is really not on easy side of things

[lime lantern]

im at e2 exu e2 lappy e1 everyone else

[left kestrel]

Build base fast

[lime lantern]

not exactly something i can control but im working on it

[lime lantern]

i could wisadel it but id lile to farm mt8

[elder flume]

i can show a theoretical Exu2 Lemuen clear tbh

just have to mind Lemuen is E2 60 S2M2 so it will be faster statue kill

[lime lantern]

yeah ur lemuen kills statue before seal spawns

which is big

[left kestrel]

I just use s3 for mt8

[lime lantern]

also i just tried again

miksa lives with s2 up

and 2 healers

once s2 expires its joever

[elder flume]

the Lemuen vid i linked is E1 80 S2L7
which if Jess kills all right side birds will kill statue before seal spawns

[lime lantern]

also have no dmg w/o Exu there

[elder flume]

shame

[lime lantern]

Like man

cmon

[elder flume]

E1 80 S2L7 Lemuen ?

[lime lantern]

L60, but yes

[elder flume]

the alternative to give more time is Shirayuki S2 but uh

[lime lantern]

who

why didnt they make statue elite so lemon can lock on 💔

[elder flume]

it is elite

[hearty lava]

hello can i ask here for advise on my team for the event

[lime lantern]

the why doesnt it s2

dafuq

[elder flume]

theyre in her range when shes asleep

[lime lantern]

which means

[elder flume]

so when she wakes up enemies need to go out of her range and back in to start marking

[lime lantern]

...?

thats so jank icant

nothing about her s2 description tells me that

[elder flume]

most of the game mechanics is fuck around find out

[lime lantern]

so i shld just coen back later with a lv80 lemon

since apparently thats the difference maker here

[hearty lava]

any idea who i should change for lemon

[elder flume]

idk im trying something to see if Exu2 right side is easier to do than raising more ops

[lime lantern]

Uhh ping me if u find anything i might fall asleep

[elder flume]

just send your roster so i know levels

[lime lantern]

cant sens krooster rn

is a squad ss fine

[elder flume]

give 3 ss of your available ops sort by level

[left kestrel]

Exu i guess

[hearty lava]

alr ty

[full stream]

myrtle

she has no use at all

[hearty lava]

really ?

[full stream]

ines can both produce as much dp and lane hold early

[left kestrel]

Oh didn't see that durin

[full stream]

not to mention u also have mountain

we need to replace these two dead slots

[hearty lava]

oh ok

[elder flume]

oh E1 1 medics

[hearty lava]

ill replace myrtle then

[hearty lava]

whos the other i should replace

[full stream]

mountain like i have said but ikd your roster so i cant rec someone better if there is any

[hearty lava]

let me send

[hearty lava]

any idea who i should replace

[full stream]

ascalon>mountain

dorothy>skalter

[hearty lava]

alr alr any else ?

[full stream]

u can build mizuki for his IS mod it actaully makes him quite competitive in ticket prio(dorothy is mody3 s2/3 m3 both are usable and ascalon modx1 with s2m3)

[hearty lava]

ohh

alr alr

[elder flume]

@lime lantern

i didnt activate Lemuen S2 to make it fair

for the last part assuming the swords dont have shield then Miksa should be able to tank
if not then retreat Lapp after shes out of skill into Cardigan so Miksa will only block 1 and Cardigan will block the other sword

[pastel condor]

How the fuck do I do 5-3 ts aint for the dumb like me ☹️

[full stream]

#strategy message

dont even need the gravel to stall just exu2 s2 will kill everything bot left(exu2>kroos2 kroos2>kroos1)

[modest vigil]

how does one beat Research Base Hanger with this? Im relatively new :>

[pearl compass]

Come again, which stage?

[foggy grove]

anni

with gundam

[full stream]

annihilation columbia

[signal vector]

Borrow a wis a wing it

[modest vigil]

Annihilation Mission, Research Base Hanger with the bunch of gundams

[pearl compass]

Ah, I think you're good now.

[glass monolith]

#strategy message Good times

[sly drift]

How'd you able to search that far into the past chat.

Very specific chat

[glass monolith]

"from: my name has: image robot"(at first search word anni)

[wicked minnow]

discord search feature very

[hasty spruce]

Theres no way

[glass monolith]

Good old JT8-3, one of few stages i remember by amount of suffering it caused me

[hasty spruce]

I dont have a single operator that can give shields

[full terrace]

If you struggle too much, you can borrow

[hasty spruce]

I need to do it myself to be independent 💯 but by doing this it costed me 3 wasted days

[glass monolith]

When i did JT8-3, which was cursed AF i had Amiya S1 dodge roll to make middle survive and i personally stalled Talulah at bottom for whatever reasons i dont know why but Ptilo with range increase module was reaching so i didnt complain (Except dozen times i failed to do double fast redeploy bait strat and explode)

[sly drift]

Don't borrow. You have to suffer longer to feel the essential part of fighting the final arc 1 boss.

[glass monolith]

If i were to fight JT8-3 today... I would troll Talubruh with double tactician pet manual retreat

[hasty spruce]

How do you stall talulah without getting your operators killed in 1 swoop

[sly drift]

Nearl and medic is enough(?)

Pretty sure

[glass monolith]

Nearl explosion dont hit anyone. Every 18 seconds i deploy Gravel and Waifu to get burn and retreat them ASAP as Talubruh burns 2 every 20 seconds (unless she busy using other skill)

[hasty spruce]

Used 4 medics to stall talulah and nothing worked

[sly drift]

Let me see your ops

Talulah burns 2 ops. So you need 2 bait. Very important if you don't use sustain shit like Abyssal Hunter.

[glass monolith]

I believe burn is true damage and Talulah slaps/explosion are arts, tank her with HP instead DEF

[pearl compass]

All attacks are True source.

Blunt HP, unfortunately.

[glass monolith]

My bad, i don't recall what she does outside killing good

[hasty spruce]

Talulah burned 5 of my ops at once

[sly drift]

You dont place them adjacent

[glass monolith]

She has explosion skill, which spread to adjusted in + pattern

[sly drift]

Like this.. this is actually crap positioning

[glass monolith]

It was alive purely on baits

[sly drift]

It was fine if you ALWAYS remember when she will cast the burn.

But if you miss once. It's over

[glass monolith]

Here expample how good positioning looks on completely unrelated map don't thing about it

[glass monolith]

YOU DONT HAVE TO TELL ME, THANKS

[hasty spruce]

Alright

I believe in miracles

[sly drift]

I mean it's for @hasty spruce

[glass monolith]

jt8-3 trauma arc

[hasty spruce]

This one attack is the only one getting in my way to achieve 3 stars

[glass monolith]

You need to cook solution which either leave you with something to deploy (Which was my initial plan which failed to generate DP each time i tried ) or somehow have units who survive with big brain healing and placement

[hasty spruce]

Bubble cant even survive and i have no more mats to promote other operators

[glass monolith]

Those things is 1000 arts damage. Your DEF stat does nothing

[hasty spruce]

Yea no not a single one of my operators surviving that attack without a shield

[sly drift]

Using your ops. It's 2025 and still thrilling as hell fighting Talulah.
This stage is just so damn well made

[ancient hearth]

You need either meatshields to eat up the attacks, or one of the healing options with damage mitigation that can reduce arts damage: so either Shu S3, Nightingale S3, or Quercus S1 with module.

[hasty spruce]

I think i might just have to spend some big money to get lemuen

[glass monolith]

Sir "Shield" is block 1 instance of damage. It does no shit to 10 casts of 1000 ARTS damage

[hasty spruce]

Well i managed to make one survive using catherine

I dont know how i did

But hey maybe something good will happen next week

[glass monolith]

Catherine device gives Barrier. Terminology of this game can upset ones who used to calling that shield in other games

[sly drift]

You play Guard Amiya right? I'll give you the trick (That I just used). Use Guard amiya S2 to kill three enemies right before you kill first phase talulah. That would give Amiya 80 Res. Enough to tank one line of fire barrage with only one medic supporting.

[hasty spruce]

I consider shields and barriers same things

[ancient hearth]

barrier = overheal hp
shield = negate an instance of damage, ignoring how much damage it actually is

[hasty spruce]

So thats why

[ancient hearth]

shields in this game will behave the same regardless of if it's 1 billion damage or 1 damage in the attack

[hasty spruce]

Does the 2nd skill of amiya give resistance that quickly

[ancient hearth]

barrier is just a 2nd hp bar that gets depleted first before your actual hp bar

[sly drift]

It's 30s

Guard Amiya is actually tailored for this fight

[ancient hearth]

bro, just get this person to borrow a nightingale on S3

[glass monolith]

I used S1 to cope arts dodge

[ancient hearth]

ngl, I think even S2 works on taluhah

[hasty spruce]

Gotta do it myself man

[sly drift]

He is the warrior. He refuse to borrow

[glass monolith]

Good. We need less "Just Wisadel people" in community

[ancient hearth]

then just bring 2+ frd, and have them eat up attacks

generally gravel will eat 3, the others might eat 2

[glass monolith]

He has 2 frd, he wipe out of fire wave and because he stall in front of blue box he has no time to replace nor to stop dogs who arrive during fire wave because in Soviet Russia dog will maul you during meteor storm

[ancient hearth]

is he consolidating his team positioning to minimize the number of lanes the fireballs are hitting?

[sly drift]

To be honest it's just no way you can't sustain the barrage using those medic and ops.

I Can't think anything beside abusing guard amiya 80 res, to protect Lappter at all cost

[hasty spruce]

I managed to fail because i was a second late

[ancient hearth]

pretty sure roberta device eats a fireball, if you're trying desperate

[hasty spruce]

Is the res permanent

[sly drift]

No.. only for the duration of S2.

[hasty spruce]

Well ill try to keep lappland alive

[hasty spruce]

Is gummy good

I tried using her but i dont know how she heals

[sly drift]

She is bare minimum of defender that healing

[ancient hearth]

she's not gonna burst heal fast enough to dent the fireball damage

[hasty spruce]

Man

[glass monolith]

Reminder - Solution to 2 medics not working is 3 medics

[ancient hearth]

Or an abjurerer (no, not that one)

[sly drift]

Abjurer is so dead until haruka

Ppl cope Quertus which is actually fine

[glass monolith]

Hey, i did dumb shit like stalling Jess Alter boss with Quartz, don't bad talk my suprize tools which will DR me later

[sly drift]

So the way it plays is. You line up Guard amiya>Lappter>Silence on green. Doing that 80Res tech protecting Lappter at all cost.
Red is Vulpisfoxlia dodging every fireball because invisible

[twilit sphinx]

Which skill should I master for Logos?

[sly drift]

S1 and S3

[twilit sphinx]

ty

[sly drift]

S3>S1

S3>Mod∆>S1

[hasty spruce]

Looks pretty solid

Ill give it a try once my dead phone recharges

[sly drift]

It will take so much time btw. Because Talulah casting burn is peak mechanic
You must not miss gravel and red bait

[hasty spruce]

Almost quit the game when i first got to the stage

[hasty spruce]

1 minute in and im already dead because of 1 second

[glass monolith]

Welcome to double bait strategy

[scarlet fulcrum]

I just realized they revamped the balls form, this is old storm #strategy message

More like they simplify it ig, its more fluid now

[near cypress]

fellas, how do I beat this stage

every time I encounter it in IS it ends my run

[astral cosmos]

well what's ur draft

[near cypress]

right now I am not in a run, it just ended mine lol

I had Mon3tr, Exia Alter, Logos, and some defenders

[astral cosmos]

are they all e1

[near cypress]

nah Exusiai was E2

[astral cosmos]

exu face right on the top ranged tile on the right
mon3ter face up right below her
use defenders to block

should be free

[near cypress]

ill keep that in mind for the next time I encounter this god forsaken stage thanks

can you just not shoot to the right, ever?

[astral cosmos]

you absolutely cannot kill the slugs

else you explode

unless your dps is mainly melee, in which case u dont care about them

[near cypress]

will the slugs kill themselves to the holes?

[astral cosmos]

all of them yes

[near cypress]

hmm ok

[astral cosmos]

the only threat comes out from the leftmost red box

everyone that goes through the stairs dies in the hole

including the slug spawners

[near cypress]

ok

does the same plan for for the emergency ops variant?

[astral cosmos]

the hovercrafts on bottom also exist but they dont deduct lp
ideally kill them but if u dont its ok

[astral cosmos]

yeah

[near cypress]

sick thanks

[astral cosmos]

the annoying part is that sometimes u get infiltrators

which are annoying but same plan applies
absolutely dont do anything that touches the slugs

you ideally kill the hovercrafts because their global damage once they enter blue box kills the slugs

[dusty island]

Overkill? perhaps but I like to have plenty of oh shit buttons

[lime lantern]

my lemon still isnt killing

can i use someone like Ambriel to make her lock on?

[elder flume]

Why lock on

E1 Lemuen kina sucks if she marks statue

[lime lantern]

i assume i want to kill the statue faster by actually using her ammo

[lime lantern]

oh

yea but atm shes not killilng fast enough

[elder flume]

It takes longer if she marks btw

[lime lantern]

thtats wild

[elder flume]

If Exu2 kills seal theres no reason to speed up statue kill no

[lime lantern]

my miksa is abit aswell

without s2 he needs healer skills

[lime lantern]

yeah then the dogs spawn and theyre attacking spot while invincible

[elder flume]

Ye youre supposed to use Ptilo or Lava skill in that time frame

Exu2 can pierce through it

Spot with skill can survive until Exu2 skill again

[lime lantern]

maybe im mistiming this deadge

game is hard

let metry again

she can burst seal though which is good

[lime lantern]

is there enough time to redeploy Exu2 after seal dies

[elder flume]

The whole point of right side Spot solo block is to have dog be out of statue range and be barraged by 7 snipers

[lime lantern]

some of the dogs made it here

probably bcs of exu2 downtime

also like whys it still look like i thas a barrier

[elder flume]

Thats because you dropped Spot late?

Because statue dying doesnt remove shield

[lime lantern]

ah i see

[elder flume]

Also why is Lemuen not using skill

Oh wait

Thats mine

Lmao

[lime lantern]

yeah

[lime lantern]

ah my problem was i was using lemon abit late

cleared, thanks

[elder flume]

Oh i tried marking statue and if you get 2nd skill done on E1 max it kills

Ig my previous attempts not using agents made a difference

[glass monolith]

yea I'm not doing that shit stage, ever

(I can't do "What if Ambriel marks statue" because i have both of deadeye waifus e2 and can't make e1 run with both )

[wicked minnow]

uhhh

i might be a little late to this mt-8 thing

but why are we using lemuen support?

[glass monolith]

As far as i know they trying to rush statue kill without e2s for whatever reason

[wicked minnow]

ok but like exu2

[glass monolith]

Didn't knew Exu2 has 4 tile forward attack range

[wicked minnow]

didnt know dream tiles were banned

i just got it to work btw

it was really easy

[glass monolith]

Outhealing statue damage seems to filter some of people going for statue kill

[elder flume]

Ye my strat was Lem focus statue while Exu2 focus right side

[sick flare]

I murdered statue with SilverAsh, he does that job fine

[elder flume]

Tho turns out if i just ignore right side and focus Lemuen Exu2 mid lane then its enough

[wicked minnow]

mid lane is the problem ye

the 4 guys afking there are the main threat after statue

[elder flume]

My first attempts at Lemuen solo dps was E1 max doesnt kill before seal shows up if thats their only raised dps

Retried it and its able to now

[wicked minnow]

exu solo support works pretty well in this stage

[wary shuttle]

why cant you just put another dps on the statue

fortress defenders can hit it afaik

[wicked minnow]

they were trying to do low-end with lemuen support i think

low end isnt known to have long range dps

but ye

[wary shuttle]

that or maybe run hunter?

[wicked minnow]

if you play this stage normally, you just kill the statue with whatever means

[elder flume]

Its more of
Newbies wanting to auto
If they roll Lemuen then thats that

[full terrace]

Lemuen Support over Wis Support? 😂

Crazy tech

[wicked minnow]

real

[teal comet]

Im stuck on chapter 3-8 and was wondering what team i should use in general, because I am sure I have solid units just not a good lineup, err also any tips in general for story

[near cypress]

Is there anything in particular I should know before I attempt IS5 ending 4 for the first time? Not like, how to actually get there because I can find that out via YouTube, but tips what operators/teams will be particularly effective etc

[full terrace]

You have okay units, they are just underleveled. Severely.

To play that stage the intended way you need to raise a bunch of units

Unless you are okay borrowing

[near cypress]

Thorns and Pozy are both operators who will become dramatically more powerful once they reach E2

[wicked minnow]

i remember chisa saying that gracebearer s1 does well against the skullshatterer at that level

[full terrace]

Ending 4 is draft heavy lemme refresh my memory real quick

[near cypress]

Also: I will say, if you dont want to farm the stage and just want to clear it, you can just borrow a Wisadel or any other big dps carry and they will solo the stage

Just make sure the carry is strong at E1 like Wisadel or Exu2

[full terrace]

Before I explain the stage, do you know IS5 basics and the opening routine?

Grab Lamp, grab Kings set, cultivate Shrivels, dont handmix

[near cypress]

Wdym handmix?

The rest makes sense

[full terrace]

Rbp wanna explain? The stage is yours

[lofty stag]

when you draft a certain 6 star, going to a wish node can grant a "hand' relic

[full terrace]

I'll explain the stage after you

[lofty stag]

this is a very powerful relic that buffs the op's class and another 2

[limber jewel]

Sss can actually be fun with this bro

[lofty stag]

when you handmix, you end up drafting more ops with different "hand" relics

[near cypress]

Oh, yeah I just drafted Exu2 and the wish nodes all giga buffed geeks

[lofty stag]

so in that case

handmixing would mean something like

drafting wis

and then getting hand of rumbler

problem with this is

[near cypress]

So you want to draft lots of units from the same class then?

[lofty stag]

kinda

or at least the ones listed on the hand

also

some hands are better than others

[near cypress]

[lofty stag]

like wis's "hand of rumble" is one of the best

[full terrace]

It has something to do with Lamp relics priority @near cypress

[lofty stag]

oh yeah that too

[full terrace]

So the Lamp gives Hands first

[teal comet]

I see 👀 is lvl 50 good for them or Is it ok to be lower

[near cypress]

My last run lamp gave me Exu, Wis, and Logos hands. They all seemed very strong

[full terrace]

And then after Hands, if your LP is at 1, you get King relics

[lofty stag]

when you handmix, you delay the aquisition of king relics

[full terrace]

You want to grab those King relics early

Aw come on lemme type

[near cypress]

Ohhh ok I see. I assume that only 6 star ops will trigger hand drops then?

[lofty stag]

correct

[full terrace]

And 5 Stars too

Basically, dont handmix means

[lofty stag]

wait also 5 stars?

[full terrace]

You only draft the classes belonging to a Hand

Like if you play Wisadel, then draft units like Wis, Rosmontis, Greyy

This is called the Triple Flinger

[near cypress]

Is there a cheat sheet where I can find out what ops that is? Sadly I only have Wis of those 3 🙁

[full terrace]

If you wanna play Protraction, then you can draft Exu2 and Ascalon

BUT DONT HANDMIX

[lofty stag]

isnt it exu2 and mizuki now?

[full terrace]

Same thing

[near cypress]

Ive gotta find an archetype with compatible ops then...

[lofty stag]

i mean, if at low difficulty, you dont need all 3 flingers to get through is5

[full terrace]

They need to be Elite 1 at the very least. It's gonna take time to raise so many units just to do this stage, I suggest you just borrow a unit

[lofty stag]

wis herself can easily strongarm is5

assuming you know what to do

[near cypress]

I just steamrolled ending 1/2

but I know the others are much harder

[lofty stag]

im assuming at d0?

[near cypress]

D5

[full terrace]

D0 d5 same thing

[lofty stag]

d10 is the diff you wanna be at

cuz its the max farming efficiency diff

[near cypress]

8.7k attack on Exia but she didnt even get to attack the boss because logos killed him in like 2 seconds before her skill even charged 😔

[teal comet]

thank you one final question. any tips on how to beat unstoppable charge?

[lofty stag]

well low diff is like that

at higher diffs they do pose a little more of a threat

such that you gotta be more careful with op selections

d10 is still generally lenient tho

[near cypress]

that run had every kings relic and 3 +aspd per ingot relic, with 150 ingots. I think that should steamroll difficulty 10 too if I can get the same setup

[full terrace]

Anyway, here is an old Quilon video pre-expansion with Logos/Nymph tech #strategy message

You can study that

[near cypress]

but where can I find a list of hands so i know what ops are safe to draft

and which ones I have multiple operators in

[full terrace]

What do you mean upstoppable charge

[full terrace]

Wiki has it

[teal comet]

vanguard and supporter chip stage

[full terrace]

Yeah you plop your Vanguards to generate DP on those blue + tiles

They will heal themselves up if you put them there

[near cypress]

units that can slow/stun the unblockable guys are good if you have them

[full terrace]

As for the Wraith

You want to draft Orchid

And have her slow them down for you

[near cypress]

yeah orchid is a great example

or dorothy if you have her but it doesnt look like you do?

what you can do with your current ops is save Pozy S2 charges and use them to nuke the unblockable guys if/when they leak past ur blockers

[full terrace]

One more thing

Dont waste your resources on those 5 Stars

Most of the 5 Stars you wont use them

Projekt Red, Figurino, Warmy, Platinum those are example of wasted resources. Ask in #help how to build your team

And which units to raise

[astral cosmos]

grain buds is also wasted resources

i'd like to shill red since we aren't in hashtag help

but 💤

[near cypress]

Ok so I am in a bit of an awkward place here because I want to draft the Hand of Rumble but I dont have Ros, and the other non-wis units in those archetypes arent good

Same with Geek. I have Exia alter but the other geeks/ambushers/merchants are not very good

[astral cosmos]

why not borrow

[near cypress]

[astral cosmos]

genuinely

e1 ros start is fine

[near cypress]

you cant borrow in IS can you?

[astral cosmos]

you can

[near cypress]

wait really?

[astral cosmos]

only at the start

there's an orange button on top right when you select your first ops
that lets you borrow

[near cypress]

in that case, I could do a ros start or I could do mech-accord and do a Lappy Alter + GG team with Yu

[astral cosmos]

that's slop

but sure

[near cypress]

what about a core caster team with Logos/Eyja/Ceobe

[astral cosmos]

uh, meh

you can even do soul escort start with yato

[near cypress]

am i missing something

[astral cosmos]

maybe

[near cypress]

I dont see FRD hand in this

[astral cosmos]

thats not the point

[full terrace]

Thats called handmixing

[astral cosmos]

you start soul escort yato because of how soul escort interacts with frd

[full terrace]

You stick to 1 type of Hand throughout the run

[near cypress]

those 2 comps do both stick to 1 type of hand tho?

[full terrace]

Otherwise you wasting nodes and Kings set come really late

What are you talking about? Lappcaster+Goldenglow is Undulation

Wis Rosmontis is Rumble

Two different Hands

[near cypress]

I dont mean at the same time lol

I meant those are both options given what operators I own

[astral cosmos]

is kinda slop but on low diff that works sure

if you're not going for like, ed4

or something

[near cypress]

I am specifically trying for ED4

[astral cosmos]

uh

do not use

just start ros and draft exualt en route

[full terrace]

FRDs have no hands, you can draft them freely

[near cypress]

so: buckler seems like garbage, predation seems like garbage, rending seems like garbage, you tell me undulation is garbage

[full terrace]

So are Medics and some Defenders like Shu/Yu

[astral cosmos]

buckler is bad bc ur not drafting angelina

[near cypress]

so it seems like protraction/mystery/rumble is the way

[astral cosmos]

predation is ass

rending is ass

protraction is ass

exualt plays talons i think actually am i misremembering

[near cypress]

to be fair I did get buckler in my last run and gave it to a S2 suzuran with all the +aspd relics and she did turn into a legit carry lol

[full terrace]

Undulation you need to know what you are doing, I dont recommend that

[astral cosmos]

undulation
into 0 ops p3 quilon

👍

[near cypress]

so basically

[subtle sentinel]

Rumble seems like the easy choice

[near cypress]

the only ones you should ever take are rumble or maybe mystery?

[astral cosmos]

wait maybe i'm misremembering and exualt can play lamp

i forgot

[near cypress]

Its unfortunate that my best operators are split across all these archetypes

[near cypress]

I just did it but I also handmixed and got 4 of them sooooo yeah. Luckily I was still able to get like 7 kings relics

I was lucky it didnt stop me I guess

[full terrace]

Mystery+Undulation is possible, I think I watched one of Krys's videos back then

Lemme dig it up

Jump to 18:26 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HDOUkWuvK3Y&t=8s

[near cypress]

Another question: do you all reroll aggressively early to get your kings relics ASAP or do you pace it out a bit to get levels and draft more ops early

[full terrace]

You need to balance it, thats why you dont handmix

Quilon is very restrictive on your Command Level

Other endings are not that restrictive, you can handmix and be fine

[astral cosmos]

quilon is very restrictive on your drafts

[full terrace]

Nodes are very precious for Quilon ending

[near cypress]

So if I cant handmix, that's a bit unfortunate because my best carries are spread out across those archetypes

im gonna have to look into secondary carries

[full terrace]

Quilon is heavy on the draft too like ReChord just said

You need plenty of healing because his kit revolves around the Lotus flowers

And those flowers are spread across the battlefield

[near cypress]

is mon3tr + shu enough for healing?

[full terrace]

If you dont have Eyjaberry with global healing your run gonna be rough

[near cypress]

no eyjaberry 🥲

[full terrace]

Nah not like that

You can cope Silence with the drones

She can deploy drones on the flowers

Or you can draft Nightingale to tank the Flowers explosions and whatever explosions Quilon throws at you

Those explosions are all Arts

[astral cosmos]

u aren't blocking quilon btw

[full terrace]

There is a Hoederer block tech but yes generaly you stall Quilon and not block him

[indigo helm]

im confused about this stage, if there's only drones then why tf there's holes.

[astral cosmos]

i mean yeah but that's hoe pivot tech

dont think theyre doing that

[indigo helm]

[full terrace]

Thats why the Nymph+Asca tech I showed you in the video

[indigo helm]

actually i'll just use the practice shit to see it myself

[full terrace]

Triple Flinger has different approach

[astral cosmos]

asca is only if you play lamp with mizuki/exualt

[full terrace]

I used to aggressively handmix for Asca during my Quilon days

😂

[astral cosmos]

my average run that isn't 5* only has 5 hands

also because i play topgun

[full terrace]

Take King sets, draft Asca and ditch the Coin Toy/Chalice

[indigo helm]

wait what

WNY THE HOLES

[astral cosmos]

why not

[indigo helm]

YOU CAN'T PUSH OR PULL FLYING UNITS INTO THEM

[near cypress]

there are a few ops that can ground flying enemies no?

[indigo helm]

😭

[astral cosmos]

you can't ground flying enemies unless it's specified

you only ground hovering/low altitude

[indigo helm]

yeah this is stupid.

they just went

"yeah man sure why not."

[near cypress]

ok the guide I just watched said you can ignore the petal healing debuffs if you want

[full terrace]

It's not only the debuff, Quilon entire kit revolves around those flowers

Idk which guide told you that but thats not how you play it

In high diff you'll get 1 shot

Unless you Nightingale it

[near cypress]

What will Lamp prioritize giving you if you dont have any viable hand operators or 1 hp for kings relics

[astral cosmos]

#is-station pins

[void terrace]

How is this background unlocked?

[cedar hound]

Buy the lore book

[scarlet fulcrum]

Buy "terra: a journey" book

[void terrace]

Is it a code?

[leaden sierra]

A more aesthetic tile bad approach. Otherwise, you'd probably just put 5 agents. Wait, I got one better, 5 sentry protectors (grandpa/sadcat type).

[full terrace]

@pure orchid @regal frost Total Dominance

[cinder swift]

whats the easiest way to beat JT8-3 for a newer player? these are my 6*s

[full terrace]

Borrow Wisadel and bait properly is the easiest way

It's not about the amount of 6 Stats you have

It's whether or not you can abuse/counter the mechanics

[indigo helm]

you know you're fucked when mt-8 "low rarity" guide has fucking E2 in it

[leaden sierra]

JT8-3 is an aketon farming stage, but you don't have to auto it rn, since mt-8 is currently open if you wanna farm, so probably easiest to borrow.

If you don't want to borrow, here are some tips. Talulah does a periodic fire attack that targets the 2 latest deployed ops. Usually hard to tank, but you can spam gravel and another fast redeploy.
If you're having a hard time tanking the phase switch fire, try using exu S2+horse man or maybe something with logos S2?

[indigo helm]

tbh mt-8 is not that fucking easy either

[leaden sierra]

With their team, mt-8 is easier than JT8-3, since the latter is a survival check stage.

[cinder swift]

its easier than Talulah lol

my team does not lack Damage

[full terrace]

There you go #strategy message JT8-3 Wisadel borrow

I dont have the time for handhold right now, you can study the video and ask if you get confused

[cinder swift]

thx

[languid hearth]

i can’t beat mt-10 with no borrows and i’m a returning lvl80 player with like 17 E2 6-stars, should i lowkey uninstall and start gardening

[foggy grove]

so do you want to clear it or just grumbling

[languid hearth]

i do wanna clear it, i saw some guides that the boss phase 3 is supposed to sit still and do a skill but he didn’t do it and i can’t kill the guy

[wary shuttle]

what you wanna do is to prepare a bunch of nukes around where the boss spawns at phase 3, and rush it down asap

[maiden hound]

phase 1 cheese with true/elem/use high dph skill
phase 2 normal dps
phase 3 normal dps

[languid hearth]

phase 1 and phase 2 i just surtr it

block with hoshiguma and surtr both phases no issues, i just gotta kill the boss phase 3

[maiden hound]

if you got his area piss skill just tank it :shusmug:

[wary shuttle]

if you have built caster amiya she can S3 phase 3 easily

[languid hearth]

that’s what i tried cuz i saw the kyostinv guide but the boss didn’t do the skill and sit still

he just autos amiya and she just dies fr

[wary shuttle]

get some bait units around where the boss spawn

[languid hearth]

like gravel or smth tankier

[wary shuttle]

yeah that'd be fine, its mostly to distribute the boss's ranged attack so it doesn't all focus on amiya

she kills the boss in like 8 hits so you only need to survive 1 or 2 attacks

[languid hearth]

tuff. tanking the skills is non-issue since i got hoshiguma and skalter plus warfarin s1, but the run would be much neater if i could bind the phase 3 or smth

[wary shuttle]

cant you just bind it though

or even just slow

[languid hearth]

oh shit

i have angelina

i could probably do saria on the red tile here, wake her up, s3, and just win. doubles as bait too

wow don’t ever take a break from ak you’ll be braindead like me. ggs

if she and amiya are low i just skalter s1 with the bluetooth dragon

critical thinking

[wary shuttle]

that might be out of boss range but looks alright

[languid hearth]

as in out of range to eat an auto yea, probably. worst case amiya gets low and i just saria s3 early or skalter s1 when it comes back up. and i can optimise that cd, i only use it to extend surtr s3 so she melts phase 1 and 2

[zealous geyser]

do i m9 ascalon or no
what skills are best in order

[narrow pendant]

U s2m3 mod1 and sleep

[zealous geyser]

other skills not worth?

[narrow pendant]

No
S3 sucks balls
S1 gains are pretty meh and if u want afk from her, sl7 is just fine

[zealous geyser]

oh ok cuz i saw a lot of people in my friend list with like m6 m9 ascalons

[narrow pendant]

Simps

Cant blame

[hot pasture]

To those who don't believe me. Here is proof. This is after 5 runs of this setup. I cannot kill those last 4 enemies for some reason

[somber falcon]

Show your team screen

[hot pasture]

Kay

This is the team

[queen axle]

OHH

place ur wisadel

right

uh

place her facing up

in that position

dude i thought u were doing chernobog

everyone else position is fine but wisadel has to snipe the casters at the end

[signal vector]

I prefer to borrow ulpianus

[pearl compass]

[hot pasture]

I don't know which one that is then. This was the first stage they placed me in

[signal vector]

Ulpi can solo the leftside better than wis

[queen axle]

ascalon too tbh

[hot pasture]

Didn't place wis down fast enough. That's just a fluke

[queen axle]

uh u can place like a bait and then place wis

[signal vector]

He can tank the AOE dudes until the end of the melody to make sure that the musicians dont do anything funny since no melodies are playing

[queen axle]

make sure to place ulpi where he can hit two lanes btw

[harsh jolt]

Maybe all you need is a vanguard that can print DP
U know, myrtle?

[hot pasture]

But I though Wis does more dmg? And also that massive AoE?

[queen axle]

u got exu2 for damage

i mean i beat it with wis but

[harsh jolt]

Or are you a Hoyofans that only care about damage?

[signal vector]

Nah ulpi is better in this stage

[signal vector]

Was about to say lmao

[hot pasture]

Then my kills go down to around 300-340

[harsh jolt]

Wis or ulpi both is fine, uipi u dont have to activate the skill

[hot pasture]

I don't know what this means. If you do damage and kill enemies, that's good. Why, in any game, would I pick a unit w/ less damage?

[harsh jolt]

Then how do you deploy all of your nukes if u dont have enough dp

Are u gonna play this game with no vanguard?

[signal vector]

Uh cause that unit will make the latter part of the stage much much much much less stressful?

[hot pasture]

I mean, out of the team, Wis is the last to die anyways

[harsh jolt]

Cantabile alone is not enough

[queen axle]

should use myrtle

[harsh jolt]

U need to upgrade a lot of vanguard, especially myrtle and bagpipe

[queen axle]

e0 lvl 1 sl4 myrtle is enough

if u dontwant to invest

but e1 sl7 is reco

[narrow pendant]

Hell no

[hot pasture]

I don't use Cantabile in Annihilation. I learned that very quickly

[queen axle]

u dont even wanna up myrtle

and bag is outdated

[narrow pendant]

Myrtle e1 sl7 is more than enough

Bagpipe is useless

[signal vector]

Just use myrtle bruh

[harsh jolt]

If he has ines then no need for bag

[hot pasture]

I don't

[signal vector]

You notice how like none of them are long range units until like enemy 200 or something?

[harsh jolt]

Then myrtle is ur way to go

[signal vector]

Just place myrtle at the top left music box facing the music box bruh

So that she can help with controlling the melody

[hot pasture]

I place down all my long range units first for that exact reason

They deal damage, and they won't get hit

[signal vector]

Which is why we recommend ulpianus

[harsh jolt]

Btw if u haven't recognize it yet, ulpianus can pretty much solo the left side

[signal vector]

He has 0 def and 0 res sure, but do you really think a 14 - 15k HP wall can die that easily?

[harsh jolt]

All u have to do is take care of the right side

[queen axle]

if u really dont wanna ulpipi, u can place wisadel facing up

[hot pasture]

I never said he'll die easily

[queen axle]

she can both snipe and help damage the right side if they come near blue box

[signal vector]

Exactly, just use ulpipi to solo leftside and fight the rightside

[hot pasture]

Okay. Where do I place?

[signal vector]

Then use him, we recommend him

[queen axle]

on the left side where the enemies are spawning and place him where he hits both lanes

with his 2 tile range

[harsh jolt]

The left blue box, 2 square above that blue box, facing right

[hot pasture]

Like facing up?

[signal vector]

Left blue box 2 tiles up, facing right side

This makes him able to hit both enemies coming form leftside and rightside

The reason why you want ulpi is because you want to buy time

You need to make sure there are 0 melodies playing after 350

Or else the musicians will fuck up your run

The 342 - 350 part, you just gotta tank those guys until the melancholic ends

And obviously, wis is not capable of doing that

But ulpi is hence why we recommend him

[hot pasture]

Here?

[queen axle]

iirc theres like a limbillion ranged units that will spawn on the left side near the end

[hot pasture]

This is the only place where I can see him hitting goth places on right side

[signal vector]

Yep, those guys, ulpi can tank them very reliably

[signal vector]

No... not there...

[queen axle]

yeah alot of low dmg coming at him at once makes him immortal

[queen axle]

uhhhh left side

[signal vector]

Left blue box, 2 tiles up, facing right side

[hot pasture]

They said right side

[signal vector]

Place
Him
2 tiles up
From the left blue box
Facing right side
Use skill 2

[hot pasture]

Can you circle where to place him?

[harsh jolt]

Left blue box, facing right

Bruh

[hot pasture]

Just circle it. Y'all we are BAD at directions

[signal vector]

Gimme a min, I'm on my phone so it's a bit uncomfortable

[harsh jolt]

U can look for kyostinv video, he will explain everything to u, also how and when to deploy on that stage

It's easier and quicker

[harsh jolt]

What we're telling you about ulpianus is from kyostinv

[signal vector]

The blue x, facing right side

[hot pasture]

OHHHHHHHH

[signal vector]

Use his skill 2

[hot pasture]

Blue box confused me

[harsh jolt]

🤡

[signal vector]

Shoulda used "objectice point" lol

[hot pasture]

I though they meant the blue tiles. The ones that you can place rangers on haha

[signal vector]

Oopsies

Yea place him there and he'll solo the leftside

If you're still confused we can do some hand holding lol

[hot pasture]

And it's the S2 right?

[signal vector]

Ye s2

Ulpi skill 2

[hot pasture]

Is his S2 infinite? (I'm assuming from the massive SP cost)

Or do I have to learn how to use it at the right times?

[signal vector]

Yes, 100% uptime

[glad nymph]

Guys how do I beat Degenbrecher in Breaking the Ice BI-8

I kill her once and she goes super saiyan

[foggy grove]

reveal her phase 2 invis and kill it again

[glad nymph]

ok

[foggy grove]

most boss usually has 2 phase at min

[glad nymph]

ic

[golden raptor]

she will dash when first blocked, make sure you use bait as first blocker then a defender or someone tanky as 2nd

[glad nymph]

Oka, does she deal physical damage or arts

[golden raptor]

phys

when she take enough damage she will do an explosion that disarm everyone in texas s2 range

pretty easy to out range that explosion

[glad nymph]

Idk who texas is

[golden raptor]

just know it diamond shaped

[glad nymph]

Okie

[hot pasture]

Okay. This is the placement of everything

Now I just use skills when needed and win right?

[queen axle]

uh move monster and vigil they will die

to the right

[hot pasture]

Where?

[queen axle]

u dont need to heal ulpipi

[hot pasture]

The 3 right slots are taken

[signal vector]

Kinda ye, I would prefer to place specter where silver ash is but ye this is good enough

[hot pasture]

And SilverAsh where Specter is?

His S3 does big damage, I just am not using it

[queen axle]

its fine u got exu2 to unga bunga

[hot pasture]

Should I swap Exu2's and Lumen's places?

[signal vector]

You can try to mimick what I used

Initially fang was occupying specter position

My initial placement was ulpi fang and texas

[glad nymph]

I BEAT DEGENBRECHER :D

[signal vector]

Texas and fang was responsible for DP, once I have enough DP I place gla down to babysit ulpi

And then slowly build up the right side because initally there's 0 danger from the rigth side

[hot pasture]

Is your Thorns E2?

[pure orchid]

jeez 10 ws

actual pro gambler

[queen axle]

think its more like reasoning and logic and knowing how op burdenbeasts are but ngl later rounds feels like its rigged

[signal vector]

Most of my squad is e2 already, but I did beat this stage like a few weeks earlier when everyone apart from thorns is e1, in the pic I sent everyone that I placed down apart from silence is e2

It was a close call, blaze's 3 second immortality came in clutch at the last moment

[hot pasture]

I thought Ulpipi didn't need healing?

Why is his health dropping?

[queen axle]

dw he shouldnt die

[hot pasture]

Does he heal himself?

[queen axle]

[signal vector]

He just needs to be babysit for the firsr few moments

[queen axle]

he heals himself yes

its effective def

[signal vector]

Oh you'll see the enemy healing him soon

Once you reach 342

That's where you'll see enemies healing ulpi instead of killing him lol

[hot pasture]

Okay. Did your Ptopilis and Silence do a lot for you or can I place my Logos down where you have you Ptopilis?

Or does Lumen HAVE to go in that spot? I thought Mon3tr did enough healing?

[signal vector]

I placed tilop down purely for her talent (i.e I'm using her as a SP battery), but considering your team is e1 yea you might need to combine mon3tr s2 and tilop s2 to have enough healing

[hot pasture]

What does you Silence do?

Was she a deciding factor in your healing?

[signal vector]

More healing, mainly the drone, but apart from that she doesnt really do anything

Cause back then my blaze and thorns were really weak, so I gotta combine 3 fcking healing sources to sustain them when 375 comes around

And I did not use logos s1, I used his s3

Well when he was e1 I uses his s1 but when I got him to e2 I switched to his s3 for this stage

[vestal badge]

@lime lantern tried this, leakng left side

[lime lantern]

what are you using left side

[wary shuttle]

shouldn't you want some kind of AOE on the left

or some kind of spawncamping on the top left corner

[elder flume]

You can put both in the middle if you have E1 Miksaparato and is fast enough to go through 2 Lemuen cycles

My ops are E2 but E1 max Lemuen works fine

ideally you go Rangers > Lemuen > Exu2 > Kroos

but if thats too long then Rangers > Lemuen > Miksaparato + retreat for dp after mark > Bubble > Exu2 or medic is better to get Lemuen skill faster

Or if you want safer path its Rangers > Lemuen > Exu2 up right from Kroos and she will be focusing swords and dogs

[vestal badge]

Cuora logos and kroos

[lime lantern]

i put down a second defender infront of miksa so you can try another defender

that should stop them from leaking

[waxen dome]

Ulpipi's healing increases when his hp drops below 50%
So realistically, you shouldn't see him go below 40% hp.
Tho I still like to run gladiia with her (or a healer if you're broke)

[sly drift]

This is what 7.62mm L118A1 sniper rifle does to a mf.

[vocal leaf]

can you make a real oneshot with her? not using mines

[sly drift]

That is without mine.

She just deals too much damage using auto attack during preparation

[vocal leaf]

oh then it’s not possible

[sly drift]

How much is Patriot HP again?

[ancient saffron]

How do I deal damage to the boss in 15-20, I have exu alter but she doesn't do enough damage because of its high defense

I'm talking about the big dude, I can already eliminate the little dude with Yu

[full stream]

go with someone that has high dph(damage per hit) like ray or use elemental/true damage(mon3tr)

[ancient saffron]

Okay thank you

I also have mon3tr so I'll try her

[weary jungle]

I need help with 12-20(standard)
-# I'm a bit stupid

[full stream]

if u are down to borrow go borrow ejyaalt(medic), if not u wanna cycle your defenders because main boss damazti cause corrosion which reduces their Def until its 0 and expectedly they will explode once that happens(ejyaalt can prevent the corrosion)

also work on base slaves #bot-spam /baseskills

beside that lvl up your tanks a bit

[weary jungle]

I will try, I spent everything on lemuen and exusiai

[full stream]

why are we on chapter 12 again? shouldnt we be in the event masses travel

[weary jungle]

I've already done it and this

[full stream]

farm the event stages mt 8/9/10 for the mats mainly grindstone>aketona and clear shop

[pearl compass]

oof
Farm the event. You'll get it done later on.

[weary jungle]

So... No lemuen module now? 🥲

Though I still need to do stories (lower ones) for ops BC I am lacking ops

[full stream]

yeah same with exu2 mod do those later just clear shop/farm event stages>baseslaves

[weary jungle]

Okay, also what's baseslaves?

[full stream]

#bot-spam /baseskills they are primarily use as workers inside your base and some need to be e1 to unlock their best base skills(better workers=better productions)

[weary jungle]

Ohh
Right now my base is sitting like this

[full stream]

ok you really need to clear event shop>base/baseskills #bot-spam /base /baseskills

[weary jungle]

Okay

[tender shore]

How do I beat this stage i just can't fir some reason

[lapis hornet]

?!

[vital vessel]

just borrow?
i'd just borrow a s2m3 mod3 ulpi and put him 2 tile to the right of blue box facing up and afk

[tender shore]

oh ye forgot about borrowing

[vital vessel]

you can auto mt-9 with this
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV182GRzXEJk/

[tender shore]

ty

[vital vessel]

thought you're on of those no borrow player, about to ask roster

[tender shore]

nah i just completley forgot about the feature

also damn i cant find any good ulpies

they all like lvl 50

[vital vessel]

sorry man my ulpi is unmodded

[tender shore]

damn

[vital vessel]

i think you can clear this yourself tho
monten on left red box, exu2 with saria and a medic far away, just activate exu2 when the middle box split out enemies

the 2 red box on exu2 range

you just wake them up
where's your vg

[tender shore]

vg?

[vital vessel]

vanguard

[tender shore]

umm

d

i gotta put one on the tem

[full stream]

He has mitm

[vital vessel]

oh mitm lmao

[full stream]

also kcik sand and tsukinogi

[tender shore]

oh ye mitm

i forgot mitm

[full stream]

these two are top contenders as worst op in the game

🙂

[tender shore]

lol

[vital vessel]

i thought this is mt 7 or smt, it's mt 4 damn

[tender shore]

ye im a very new player

[sacred heath]

Amiya isn’t targeting mt-10 boss, how do I get her to target them

[vital vessel]

holy shit bro
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NBVtzME8k/

[sacred heath]

Holy shit indeed

[vital vessel]

exu2 is fucking broken

[tender shore]

WDYM i cant even clear it with a full team with exu 2

[full stream]

dont have anyone else in her ranged?

[sacred heath]

What is her targeting anyways

[tender shore]

ah its e2 mines e1 makes sense

[full stream]

normal=closest to blue box