strategy

[regal frost]

they just wanna clear

they won't farm

[scarlet fulcrum]

So just borrow

[glass monolith]

He dies to first enemy of map, he won't even Wisadel in that time

[topaz tapir]

no

[regal frost]

what's Myrtle, courier and fang skill level?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah sure its easy with those ops, ngl

[topaz tapir]

All of em Lv7 except Courier Lv6

[lapis hornet]

dalao clear

kirn too dalao 🛐

[smoky halo]

cake dalao

[regal frost]

try again with Myrtle and record

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats not even low steps 💀 just want to test ceobe

the record still 6 steps? Idr

[lapis hornet]

low step is too potgated

plus apparently record is 6 alr p cringe

[sly drift]

W Mentality

Don't let borrowing rot your brain

[lapis hornet]

anything above 4 feels cringe ngl

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea susge

[lapis hornet]

i mean it's p good for a stat check stage with 3 lanes

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ulpian 💪

[smoky halo]

even if u dont borrow ur brain is gonna get rotted once u get good units

borrowing has nothing to do with it

play 114 to not get brainrot

🚬

[lapis hornet]

not borrowing is kinda misguided newbie pride tbh but I also get the feeling like it feels like cheating

[lapis hornet]

it's got nothing to do with skill tho

well gacha skills ig

shoulda onetapped mountain pluma ez

[scarlet fulcrum]

Keyword 1 kill 1 dp

[lapis hornet]

myrtle sucks also there

[lapis hornet]

can always lvl vigna e1 40 rq

idk what units you have otherwise

[glass monolith]

e0 45 kills slugs

[lapis hornet]

oh idk mine alr e1

[glass monolith]

Ah fuck mine is potted so he might not have DP to copy 1-1

[lapis hornet]

it's not that tight

[full terrace]

I havent watched this but

Do I need to imagine that you win?

[lapis hornet]

just try couple times should be fine

[glass monolith]

Imagine you watched it

[lapis hornet]

imagine you win

[full terrace]

I love Minus, he is hilarious

[regal frost]

they can copy minus vid, just have to let vigna get kills before they can drop fang ig

[full terrace]

Well if he won it then they can def copy it yea

But sometimes Minus vid doesnt win

He asks you to "imagine" that he did

[mild brook]

How to beat this? I died when snipers came. I leaked last 11 enemies

[glass monolith]

Because i didn't had time to redo that entire shit because i brought 8/12 bodies and something leaked etc

[lapis hornet]

wait he has e2 thorns lapp

[glass monolith]

Expecially that one fucking time with chapter 9 boss

[regal frost]

he should be fine once set up

[full terrace]

Uh.. I dont remember that anni that much

But I do remember the last bit can be a bit of problem

[regal frost]

the snipers kill whoever is in storm

[glass monolith]

Barricade pillars and them spawn kill for days

[full terrace]

Its that blue circled Mound that is causing the problem

Maybe you can deploy someone in that one ranged tile

And face him/her up

[regal frost]

I was just about to say watch a vid of no one remembers which pillars to reinforce lol

[full terrace]

To assassinate the Snipers and the robo shadow enemy

Dont remember its name

Honestly, Logos S1 is pretty good there

[glass monolith]

infiltrator or something?

[full terrace]

Those Ash event critters

Originiutant

Small thingies

[full terrace]

Ya Infiltrator

[glass monolith]

Yea Logos existence is pretty convenient for this anni in 2025 In 2022 it was survivor horror because i was in fear for my phone not surviving

And it was before Anni skip tickets

[full stream]

Remembered seeing someone asking for ifrit borrow to play this a few weeks ago (2022 guide moment)💔

[glass monolith]

Step 1 - Ifrit, step 2 - ask why sarkaz archer killed her

[regal frost]

my old auto

siege spam lol

[glass monolith]

Siege was duct tape holding auto together in case lag makes slugs escape Pluma

[lapis hornet]

ifrits p good on that map

[regal frost]

she is

[wicked minnow]

wtf new player pulling kernel

[regal frost]

idk what I was cooking but it worked

[glass monolith]

well that looks more reasonable than my placement

[wicked minnow]

ye placements look quite good actually

[full terrace]

Did you know

That autoes after Chapter 15

[regal frost]

I think I have r6 vid somewhere

[full terrace]

Got the PRTS error logo

[wicked minnow]

the only questionable thing is the fortifications

[lapis hornet]

i did it with chalter s1 iirc lmao

[full terrace]

The black thingy

[lapis hornet]

+pluma mudrock

[regal frost]

yes I notified lol

[glass monolith]

With exception of fortifying 2 pillars above Exu being overkill i don't see issues with that

[regal frost]

oh wtf it's been 4 years

https://youtu.be/MZ2eNzti030?si=gWcVfi6xwJ-QJVYn

[full terrace]

Damn you are a fossil

[regal frost]

I need to upload more old vids ngl

[full terrace]

😂

[glass monolith]

[regal frost]

this phone is on its last legs

[glass monolith]

My pervious phone died on RA 1

[full terrace]

Are you still using Ash nowadays?

[regal frost]

being held together by a rubber band and the power button doesn't work either

[full terrace]

Believe it or not, Ash was a beast in Football, Icebreaker Games

[regal frost]

with s3?

I forgot she existed ngl

[full terrace]

She is like one of my best units I cant have my partner contest her

S2 bruh

So you plop her right

[glass monolith]

Last time i heard "(R6) Ash s3" was when this chat used to flex speed clear of annihilation

[full terrace]

She throws bomb

Stunning the goalkeeper

Then freeshot the ball to the goal

[regal frost]

had so much orundum back in 2022 smh

I miss it

[full terrace]

Gahdamn Blemi Rate Up

[lapis hornet]

lol trying to gain 15 seconds on your anni auto

those were the days

[mild brook]

What is the targeting of the sniper in this map?

[regal frost]

they target whoever is in the sandstorm iirc

[lapis hornet]

ya

[pearl compass]

They perform oneshots to any units inside the sandstorm.

Without it, only melee.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ah yea still remember those time lmao

[regal frost]

back when salt mines was full of people flexing their times lol

[pearl compass]

Can't wait to rerun this tower with my own Reedic.

[maiden hound]

Welcome to #strategy. How can we think for you today?

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[cinder oyster]

https://streamable.com/wt9gmi
I 7 manned it

[gentle sable]

can someone make me a strategy for hell stage 4 in the new chapter

[pearl compass]

Dude. Krooster exists just for prevent doing any screenshot mayhem like this.

Send. The freaking. Link.

Do you think I'm able to see your ops?

[gentle sable]

i am?

oh

ngl idk how to

[pearl compass]

Profile > View Profile > 📤 and "Copy Link"

[sly drift]

What were you saving for?
Banners at that time were quite stacked and you still have that much.

Thorns, Surtr, Mudrock were goated the first must pull powercreep shi

[lapis hornet]

save for skalter

[errant hawk]

something i dont understand i finally gave up and used support units for 6-11 and i have 2 questions
is there any way to get coura besides pulling her she would be very usful to have
and why when i used click or amiya to kill the frost thing it didnt work while in the guides they used stewart and he did work

[lapis hornet]

can get her from recruit

[errant hawk]

yeah that how i barly beat it

[lapis hornet]

and idk 6 11

but stew trait makes him target highest def

so if another caster doesn't work it's because they're distracted by something else

[errant hawk]

OHHHHHH that makes sense

they did get distracted i had to do so many retreats to deal with it

[visual cove]

H15-4 is kinda hard. Who do I use to kill the boss

[pearl compass]

Surtr Ray

Ela mines to speedup things up

[leaden sierra]

Didn't know blaze could one tab the mimic like that nice.

[visual goblet]

Virtuosa or logos also work

Just dont bother with phys damage

[smoky halo]

anyone with high dmg hits

boss goes invulnerable after X hits

so u wanna make sure each hit counts for a lot

[lapis hornet]

combination of hits and time

ray works

[smoky halo]

unironucally lem s2

but

shes not here yet

[lapis hornet]

ok where's mine

[smoky halo]

play cn

:ya:

[lapis hornet]

is it like better firewatch

[smoky halo]

yeah

[lapis hornet]

oh that's p cool

[fierce patrol]

any low end squad guide for H15 stage?

[glass monolith]

H stages are rarely target for "low end"

[mystic elbow]

Hey. I’m struggling with H15-4…

Any tips? I can try.. Tell me which ops I should use. I don’t have Walter and Virtuousa…

[glass monolith]

I think Wisadel is griefing against chapter 15 boss. DEF is so high than aftershocks will only play into faster boss revive instead killing

[plucky grove]

doesnt she still do a lot of damage though

by far the best option, just a possible option if you do have her

[craggy fable]

I time failed here. Is there any way to get rid of the casters who prevent dp gen

[narrow pendant]

Kill them

Or place something on that tile to prevent them from being placed there

What happened tho
Ray+warf+fragile can one cycle

[craggy fable]

tje bot fried all my ops after this photo

[craggy fable]

not for me

the hp u see was from one cycle

[narrow pendant]

How

Is none if them like m3 or

[craggy fable]

idk :

[craggy fable]

ray is

warf and suzu no

should i m3?

[narrow pendant]

Ye that makes sense then

Lul

[craggy fable]

everyone dies too easily

[narrow pendant]

I wouldnt m3 skillls for 1 stage

U can come back to it later

[craggy fable]

yeah i suppose so

ig ill js like use a support unit rn for the reward

[narrow pendant]

Warf m3 is 30% more atk buff
Suzu m3 has like, 10? More fragile%

So together it is a decent difference for ray

[craggy fable]

i use suzu sometimes

but i was told not to m3

if i dont use like A LOT

i need necrosis already

[narrow pendant]

I used suzu 3 times since i got her

Shes m3 mod2 anyway

[craggy fable]

i gotta m3s2 mosnter first

[mystic elbow]

I’m trying to beat H15-4. Are this ops OK? Or, should I change any?

[full terrace]

Do you have Suzuran and Surtr/Ceobe there?

[mystic elbow]

Yes. I have them.

[full terrace]

Well perfect

[mystic elbow]

Should I replace Suzuran with Virtousa?

[full terrace]

I mean yes sure but

[regal frost]

looks like overkill

[full terrace]

If you have Suzu of your own you can just borrow Mon3tr for cleaner clear

[mystic elbow]

I have Mon3tr

[full terrace]

The setup is more or less like this, and you 1 cycle the boss basically #strategy message

[mystic elbow]

Like this?

[full terrace]

Yeah

[mystic elbow]

My Ceobe is a slightly slow level. I don’t have enough to upgrade her for E2

Will logo work?

[regal frost]

yes

[mystic elbow]

Perfect. I’ll use Logo instead

[full terrace]

Surtr works the same

[mystic elbow]

I’ll try this strategy. I’m so struggling w this lately

[full terrace]

Instead of Ceobe you can use Surtr

[mystic elbow]

Where should I put her

[regal frost]

use ifrit S3 instead of S2 btw

for the res shred

[full terrace]

In the Viviana tile facing left #strategy message

Its basically the same setup

[mystic elbow]

Where can I find the video for this strategy? Damn! They killed so quickly !

[full terrace]

Just with Surtr instead of Ceobe

[mystic elbow]

I’m trying to figure out where do you mean the left?

To kill the big monster ??

[full terrace]

Ifrit S3 Saria S3 Suzuran S3 and Surtr S3 or Ceobe S2

Yah, on Viviana tile there

[mystic elbow]

OK! I’ll try

I need to get some rest for now. Been playing this for hours

[full terrace]

Rest well

[vocal leaf]

i thought about doing the full recording, but it would be the second time after cc not doing a maleknights clear for a meta comp clear

[glass monolith]

Yes, burn all evidence of ever playing not self announced niche

[vocal leaf]

i quickly gave up when mlynar+aak didn’t work

[glass monolith]

Good. Now i have no plan

(Proceeds to Aak Schwartz)

[fierce patrol]

just askinng, maybe someone had too much time on their hands and did it

[glass monolith]

Well definetly not me, my progress is still 15-9 and untouched challenges

[fierce patrol]

goodluck

[vocal leaf]

https://youtu.be/DuR_357IDiE?si=1Dg6bIoz8oRFlhnp

is it low end enough?

[fierce patrol]

ma men

[glass monolith]

[fierce patrol]

I don't have the cow

[astral cosmos]

oh humus?

[glass monolith]

well do what i do when i copy guide and don't have whatever they having. Cook alternative

[vocal leaf]

surely highmore can replace him

[fierce patrol]

gonna try this tmr whenn I get sanity

[green yoke]

Guys how do I beat this?? I won't take a single damage!!

[glass monolith]

Check thing stats, inhale food, slap it to death

[violet sorrel]

1hit = -1hp
need poison / continuous dmg / high aspd (lappter, bluepoison, etc)

[green yoke]

I see so true damage won't deal anything?

[violet sorrel]

yap

[mystic elbow]

I managed to beat it. 👏 Yay me!

Thank you everyone for the advices.

[unkempt lintel]

54 dp mudrock

[prisma ledge]

Can this work vs H15-4?

[hasty bluff]

Defiantly

[prisma ledge]

Might add Thorns and change some skills and test it out I suppose

[hasty bluff]

You could swap Mon3tr to S3 to nuke the mini boss early on btw

[prisma ledge]

Ah I dont have Saria S3M3 and Mont3r S3M3

[hasty bluff]

I don’t think M3 on Mon3tr might make a difference?

Dunno about Saria tho

[full terrace]

Do you have Suzu and Surtr/Ceobe?

[prisma ledge]

I do have Surtr. Uh Suzuran... doubt it

[full terrace]

Perfect

Borrow Suzuran, time to cheese it

[prisma ledge]

Okay no Suzuran rip

I just realized that I dont need to farm that stage

I can use Virtuosa mayhaps

Borrow*

[full terrace]

Errr sure but I mean

Borrowing Suzu lets you 1 cycle easily

[prisma ledge]

Oooo

[full terrace]

All your displayed ops have M3 I assume?

[prisma ledge]

Most

Not Saria S3 and Mont3r S3

Oh wait, modules? Or skills

[full terrace]

Well I think you need Saria S3M3 but you can try anyway

[prisma ledge]

I forgotten how it is translated

[full terrace]

Saria S3M3 Ifrit S3M3 Suzuran S3M3 Surtr S3M3

[prisma ledge]

Okay yeah sadly no M3 on those except Surtr and likely borrowed Suzuran

[full terrace]

Ah okay scrap the idea then, borrow Virtuosa for slow kill

2~3 cycles

[prisma ledge]

I mostly have like S2M3 on Ifrit and S1M3 Saria I believe 💀

[full terrace]

Time to abuse killgate

[prisma ledge]

Okay then

[full terrace]

Uh.. read this bit #strategy message

[prisma ledge]

Cheers. I go have a look then

[full terrace]

Basically

What you need to do is

Let the miniboss drift to the bottom right (dont delay it with Ines or something)

And draw that first blood quick

You need to kill it quick before the Golems spawn

Lv90 Mon3tr S3M3 will 1 cycle, yours likely not so you can add someone like Logos to help

[prisma ledge]

Ah, let the miniboss go then do the burst dmg then stall the miniboss and cycle burst dmg thru?

[full terrace]

Once you drew the first blood

Deploy Medic and Defender to stall the top Golem

You can ignore the main boss btw

Virtuosa will take care of it

Virtuosa goes here

Blue circled tile facing down

[prisma ledge]

Aight then, I'll see what I can do when I got the time. Lemme do my irl stuff rq

[full terrace]

She is on boss duty and she helps lanehold the bottom lane

Now you just need to deploy some ops to hold the two midlanes

[prisma ledge]

Gladiia and Thorns with Eyja Alter is good enough?

[full terrace]

Basically yea

Gladiia can transform the shapeshifter

Make it a runner enemy

And keep pulling it back

[prisma ledge]

Is the unblockable one?

[full terrace]

Yeah

She can solo handle that

Thorns is a good idea yea there are drones

Virtuosa is helping a bit with that so make sure you position them correctly

[prisma ledge]

Bottom side Gladiia and just Thorns, should hit drones and probably the boss (idk the range, can see the map layout)

[full terrace]

Gladiia should be on top

[prisma ledge]

Ohhhhh

Okay interesting

[full terrace]

Top lane of the 2 midlanes I mean

[prisma ledge]

I'll figure out the placements IG

[prisma ledge]

Yep, I understand

[full terrace]

Yah that shapeshifter

Needs to be blocked for it to transform

To the running enemy

So Gladiia facing right

Blocks it, it transform, it runs to the right

She pulls it back to the left

Gladiia S1

[prisma ledge]

Perfect, got Gladiia S1M3 lol

Feels like I should M3 another one of Gladiia's skills

[prisma ledge]

I feel like I should S3M3 Ifrit. Idk how often I will be using Saria S3M3 tho

[full terrace]

Well Ifrit S3 and Saria S3 are used for Arts burst combo, you're bound to use the combo sooner or later anyway

Reedic as well but I mean, she is not ideal for this boss

Coz of hit count

[prisma ledge]

Ohhh, they are normally used in tandem? I suppose I might upgrade them as a combo for whatever situations then.

This is my lineup so far

[full terrace]

Yeah they are used together in a situation where you deal almost no damage under normal circumstances

Such as, high risk CC

[prisma ledge]

I understand why Ceobe gets used in high risk CC sometimes

[full terrace]

Yah Ceobe is the one dealing the damage, but she still needs help from Ifrit, and sometimes Saria

[prisma ledge]

👍

[full terrace]

Anyway

Ulpi should hold the bottom-most lane there

[prisma ledge]

Im planning to bring those ops and skills, but any adjustments or notes? @full terrace

[full terrace]

You can uh.. abuse Ines

To uh..

[prisma ledge]

Ines passive probably

[full terrace]

Bind the miniboss when it floats

Her first hit binds

So when you see the cursor is about to drag it

[prisma ledge]

Oh yeah, the miniboss floats

[full terrace]

Deploy Ines and bind it

To delay a bit

[prisma ledge]

I just gotta remember to let the miniboss go

Then start bursting and stalling after the miniboss is at bottom right corner I believe?

Lemme check ur video

[full terrace]

Right

But after it wakes up, you need to stall it and kill it again

So you dont want it to travel far

Thats when you use Ines

And someone like Mostima or Asca if you have them

[prisma ledge]

Can Ethan work?

Or he just dies

[full terrace]

Ethan cant bind Aerial

[prisma ledge]

Oh its still airborne

[full terrace]

Hovering actually

[prisma ledge]

Ines might be my only option then

[full terrace]

Ines and maybe Decel Binder

Or you can

[prisma ledge]

I have Gnosis I think?

[full terrace]

Setup 2 burst checkpoints

[prisma ledge]

Wait no

Thats hexer

[full terrace]

So after the bottom right burst

Retreat everyone in that bottom right

Then deploy your 2nd set of burst

[prisma ledge]

I see what u mean

[full terrace]

Near the bottom Weakening Node

Did you see that bottom Weakening Node

[prisma ledge]

Yea

[full terrace]

That black tile at bottom

Yeah that

Setup around there

Activate the Weakening Node, turning it blue

Then burst

[prisma ledge]

Makes sense with how Weakening Node works

Hmmm

I feel like I should record my Practice run here

[full terrace]

By the time you are done with the 2nd burst

Your 1st burst team will be up again

Can redeploy them for 3rd burst then

Your goal is to

Kill the big boss

Before the miniboss drift to the top most lane

[prisma ledge]

I cant wait to get home cuz I kinda wanna use my PC to draw circles for placements

[full terrace]

Where your Defender and Medic are stalling the Golem

If you let it go up there it'll just kill your Defender

[prisma ledge]

(Checking again)

S1M3 Virtuosa?

(Not home yet, but I will be soon tho)

I see the idea of how to take it down. Probably should bring Surtr along.

[full terrace]

Basically it's just these:

• Draw the first blood on miniboss before the Golems spawn at bottom right
• Virtuosa S1M3 on blue circled tile on boss duty and to help lanehold bottom lane a bit
• Lanehold bottom and the 2 midlanes, top you can ignore
• When the Golems spawn, Medic+Defender with low attack on top most lane to stall the Golem
• Setup at your 2nd burst checkpoint and wait for the miniboss to wake up and come there, then burst

If everything is executed perfectly, you should finish the boss in 3 cycles

[full terrace]

Take down who? The big boss?

Virtuosa alone is enough

[prisma ledge]

H15-4

Aight Im home

Time to set it up

[sly drift]

Wait what.. Virtuosa do something on this boss fight?

[maiden hound]

yes

[verbal harness]

Could I just post my krooster and ask for advice on H15 4?

Prts been kicking my butt

https://krooster.com/u/ironchamp

[sly drift]

Like what

To think that someone choose to borrow her

[ripe trellis]

[south spindle]

Sir have you recieved the elemental damage DLC?

🥹

[sly drift]

I use Warfarin Ray and some fragile debuff. And it's pretty much job done in literally one cycle.

That's why I'm wondering why even the hell you need Virtuosa S1

Who the hell taught you that shi

[south spindle]

For the people who don't have Warfarin, Ray, Debuff

Why are you acting like there is only one solve

[maiden hound]

is afk sir

[south spindle]

chapter 15 enemies dont even have much HP bloat

its hard reductions

obviously Virtuosa will be decent

She also chunks the golems

[sly drift]

Ughh..

Yea whatever sir.

Do your three cycle.

[south spindle]

Very constructive of you

[sly drift]

I'm not acting like there's only one solve. I'm just pointing on why the hell it should be Virtuosa borrow..
But sure if it's works.. but still wtf

[south spindle]

Yeah I would have recommended Ceobe since they have both Ifrit and Saria

But that doesn't mean you can just shut down the fact that Virtuosa works

[sly drift]

Yea yea.. if something works then those things works right? Regardless of how crap the run is

[cerulean hawk]

Lets go elitism

[south spindle]

I literally said I would have recommended Ceobe

[south spindle]

My problem is your demeanor to it

[full terrace]

Nah I wouldnt go Ceobe route. Bro doesnt have S3M3 Saria and S3M3 Ifrit, it'd still be 2 cycles regardless

[south spindle]

Oh no masteries? I just took a glance

[full terrace]

If it's gonna be 2 cycles regardless, might as well cut the requirement to 1 op

And then assign those ops on miniboss duty

[cerulean hawk]

But I wanna be elistist

[south spindle]

[sly drift]

How is this conversation have anything to do with elitist. What are you even on?

[sly drift]

Are you somehow offended by that genuine question or something

[south spindle]

Your wording insinuates that it was demeaning and not a genuine question
In multiple places

Ill leave it at that

[sly drift]

[cerulean hawk]

Clue exchange aint helping this guy

[sly drift]

This dude came here, bringing absolute irrelevant shi to the topic and ended up with this when asked. What are you? Brainless scripted NPC?

Insane

[cerulean hawk]

Actually you inspired me

[south spindle]

This is going far both of you keep it out of here

[prisma ledge]

Welp

[south spindle]

@cerulean hawk @sly drift Please be civil and act politely

[prisma ledge]

Im struggling to beat it lmao

[full terrace]

Which part are you struggling at

[prisma ledge]

Trying to figure out the cycle

I either messed up placements or timing, but I'm not entirely sure how to solve it myself

[full terrace]

Did you get the killgate?

[prisma ledge]

I got a "rough idea' of a killgate but wasnt able to burst the boss fast enough somehow

with Virtuosa s1 alone

[full terrace]

Its fine, you are meant to kill the miniboss 3 times

Hence 3 cycles

Focus should be on miniboss

[full terrace]

Not "rough idea" I was asking if you trigger the killgate or not

[prisma ledge]

Yah but the issue is, for some reason, them main boss has more HP than I expected and so, the miniboss continues on for more than 3 cycles 💀 (moved out of the 2nd burst checkpoint)

[full terrace]

Main boss or mini boss

Main boss will be killed in 3 cycles

[prisma ledge]

I'll record my gameplay cuz I need help 😭

[full terrace]

Sounds like you are confused if anything

[prisma ledge]

Or livestream it actually

[prisma ledge]

Ye probably

I can livestream it since Im on PC

[full terrace]

Here watch this for visual reference https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DuR_357IDiE&t=2s

[prisma ledge]

Crazy how Mont3r S3M3 can just do that

Seems like I need to figure out how to set up 2nd burst checkpoints cuz the left side has no ground tiles

[next wigeon]

You can use Surtr or Viviana ig but that needs abit of work

[prisma ledge]

The reference does help though. I was planning to use Surtr actually

[next wigeon]

Its better off to do Ranged since its less of a hassle imo

[prisma ledge]

Ye I think its doable

[next wigeon]

Here's a reference on using Surtr
https://youtu.be/TWxvvkGorOo

[prisma ledge]

Ohhh no wonder

That helps

[scarlet fulcrum]

Actually virtuosa can 3 cycles it no expect anything from this green name

[full terrace]

Why didnt you make good use of your Mon3tr

Like

Have Mon3tr and Logos burst then retreat both

2nd burst team whatever you burst units you have, there is a Weakening Node helping you a bit

Then redeploy Mon3tr and Logos again for the 3rd burst

[golden gyro]

How to beat this? The boss has such huge health/def?

I cane even get past 3rd level

[narrow pendant]

Their atk and hp stats are increased to 500% of original, ye

[leaden sierra]

Doesn't full king still shred cause low diff? Do you know how to use the lamp? It's super easy to abuse.

[prisma ledge]

Nvm, I think I just two cycled it

I just levelled Surtr from lvl 60 to 90 and made life so much easier

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea its just D0 with flavor, nothing special

[rapid junco]

Right, everything seems lose it interest part since I met you

[scarlet fulcrum]

😳

Hi i.a still playing shf?

[rapid junco]

I just got ending 1 this couple minutes

Need a break, this Hina gril make my head spinning

[scarlet fulcrum]

Cute like doll tho

[rapid junco]

Well no lie there

[quiet basalt]

Thanks

[ember field]

Why average deep exploration is harder than againts bosses

[limpid ore]

some deep exploration condition adds +200% max HP to bosses

[wicked minnow]

depends on the IS and deep exploration

also some skill tree upgrades/investment upgrades dont carry over to deep exploration

[ember field]

I don't think can win, even not have king relic

[scarlet fulcrum]

Those ops didn't even exist back then

It fell off this far icant

[ember field]

[lapis hornet]

you could just thorns it not big dif tbh

[topaz tapir]

Why Vigna over Plume btw

[lapis hornet]

you can use plume vigna just got more dmg

[glass monolith]

I guess you didn't watch my video with e0 45 vigna being enough to murder slugs anyway
Actually you can just bring both and have them cover slugs on both sides for burst in DP because their 1 DP on kill stacks with stage's "No DP regen. Get 1 DP on kill"

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just enough to kill "slug" Yea

[vocal leaf]

is the prts thing from autodeploy a permanent feature?

[limpid ore]

only until event ends

also it's not limited to autodeploy run

[golden gyro]

You can’t refresh shop

You’re telling me to just keep playing until I get lucky with the items

[topaz tapir]

How tf.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Steward very good here

U also have lappland

[split mulch]

any defender recommendations? besides matterhorn, eunectes, and cuora?

just in general

[full stream]

idk how many times i have to say spot/noir to you yes they are 3* and 2* but they work while being much more cost effective(noir costing 6k lmd to be as tanky as e1 lvl 30 defenders,spot being e1 for base)

[crimson raft]

why u need king relic in is2

[split mulch]

Alr alr thanks, ill use em

[astral cosmos]

matterhorn eunectes can be ignored

[full stream]

its just what he originally was using

[astral cosmos]

doesn't change my point

[sly drift]

For real the only relic I remember from IS2 are just those aspd relics

The relics that actually matter

[topaz tapir]

Drones still get by

[glass monolith]

I cant look up my old uploads of doing that trash stage without stage number

[scarlet fulcrum]

There is archetype called markman, even rangers can do that

U also have pinecone even e0 she is quite strong here

even if i spoonfeed you, there will be oh i already cleared the stage lol but thanks

[full terrace]

Just borrow Narantuya there

[regal frost]

he doesn't wanna borrow

[full terrace]

Then kirn will help him 😏

[scarlet fulcrum]

he is almost done, surely perfected in no time

[scarlet fulcrum]

Ethan e0 lv1 version

La pluma e0 lv1 version, kinda wasted but whatever

Had to compress video first, good thing i used neighbor wifi

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thorns can be optimized here kinda funny lmao

[sly drift]

What app did you use to compress? That looks like on mobile

Quality is abysmal tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just normal one

[wise jetty]

What to do with the transforming enemies on the right lane, they keep getting through

And Mlynar does no damage to the boss 💀

[narrow pendant]

Bestie, why are u not using monster on the boss

If u want easy time for right, borrow gladia with s1, and face her downwards

[wise jetty]

does she need m3 or sl7 is fine

[narrow pendant]

Sl7 is fine

Throw in gnosis for fragile and she can maybe even 1 cycle

Ofc m3 is goos tho

[wise jetty]

It worked I put Logos Gnosis and Eblana with Ptilo on right side

[scarlet fulcrum]

Without thorns version

[worn coral]

Can anyone help me. H15-4 is a struggle. I can clear the mobs but the boss doesn't die and just insta kill me at the end. Im using global burn and true dmg for the golems. I also borrow wisadel to put on the left side. But i always get screen clear. Any tips or whatsoever

Haven't check any guides a lot still tryna figure out if i can do it. The ones i seen are those thst heavily require lvl 90 or certain ops

[vocal leaf]

i doubt lv90 is necessary, just have the right combos, virtuosa solo or ifrit+saria+suzu with ceobe/surtr/vivi or ray+warf

[earnest bobcat]

Killgate the top with some healing defender unit, DPS like Logos or whatnot will (eventually) kill the boss.

[next wigeon]

What did you use to record

[scarlet fulcrum]

Screen recorder for mobile, set at lowest setting

Otherwise i cant upload here

Ah yea compress too

[worn coral]

Do mon3tr need m3 to kill h15 boss? I haven't m3 her yet

[scarlet fulcrum]

She either used to buff ur dps or handle shits on right, if you have decent roster no need m3

U dont have to 1 cycle the boss tbh, can abuse killgate like other said (U kill the miniboss before 13th enemy count/golem appear)

Then stall the said golem

Also global burn mech accord redundant here.too many Hit on boss will make miniboss revive faster (u can look the grey bar below boss hp bar)

[pearl compass]

You cannot use Monsta against PRTS on H15-4.

The reason is simple.

[worn coral]

No i mean the small boss

[pearl compass]

Oh

It's barely does then.

Like 5-10% HP remaining.

[worn coral]

Ok ty.

Can kaltsit be used as a kill gate?

[vocal leaf]

i just noticed you’re using kal IS module

[pearl compass]

Yes.

Easily.

[worn coral]

Its cheap. Also I don't have any use for her other mods

[vocal leaf]

it doesn’t work outside of IS, but if you didn’t unlock the other ones it doesn’t matter

[worn coral]

Yeah i know i primarily built her for IS anyway

[plucky grove]

doesnt it still give base stats?

[candid hill]

do I need to spoiler anything regarding story content?

I'm struggling on 6-16 but idk if what I can bring up is considered spoilers or not

[astral cosmos]

I'm sure you don't need to reveal any part of the story to show the stage and your comp

[candid hill]

ah okay

6-16, I'm struggling to handle their phase 2

[rapid jackal]

How do I beat challenge 0-6 (I just started the game)

[woeful dome]

Need help with getting 400 on annihilation 1, who should I build for the team?

[leaden sierra]

I didn't say anything about shop, I said lamp. And exactly because you can't refresh shop is why you should be going the blueprint+lamp round for deep exploration.

Lamp guarantees king.

[rapid jackal]

How do I beat challenge 0-6 (I just started the game)

[leaden sierra]

Are you leaking due to the initial rush?

[woeful dome]

try using low cost units

[rapid jackal]

Like who?

Everyone I have is so expensive

[woeful dome]

Try searching operators by deployment cost and see what you have

[rapid jackal]

Alright

[worn coral]

Can lvl 60 logos kill the miniboss in one skill cycle?

[leaden sierra]

No, even 90 max pot logos needs 2-3 more hits afterwords to finish it off. You might wanna add a secondary DPS. Also after the boss stands back up you can switch to them.

Actually, if you can proc necrosis with other means he'll shred it. But not worth using virtuosa, since she's better on the main boss.

[candid hill]

I need some help with 6-16, I'm struggling to handle phase 2 and everyone leaks through because of it

[scarlet fulcrum]

Is ur exu skill lv7?

[candid hill]

yes

she's helping shred phase 1

[scarlet fulcrum]

Open stage with her pointing boss, then farm dp to deploy additional follow, use myrtle s1 btw. Change mostima to gravel for cheap body stall

Exu as vanguard, thats all u need. No need mastery

[true stag]

why are you even having issue with this lineup?

also which map is 6-16 again

[crisp bolt]

frostnova

[true stag]

is it the three lane map?

[crisp bolt]

yeah

[candid hill]

yes

[scarlet fulcrum]

2

[crisp bolt]

2 lanes but I'm guessing they're counting the top lane FN walks through

[true stag]

the FN walking toward right > left > right map?

ehhh

[candid hill]

yes

[true stag]

you got warfarin?

[candid hill]

I think so

[scarlet fulcrum]

the FN wont even see stair with those ops

[crisp bolt]

yeah, you can just spawn camp her honestly

[candid hill]

oh actually?

I can camp her phase 1 but then she kinda runs away to the second stairs

[crisp bolt]

just wait for the transition and for her to use her ice tile attack idk what it's called

[true stag]

spawn camp her with exu and then set up chen s3 or chen s3 + warfarin s2 to nuke phase 2 easy

[candid hill]

you said chen s3 both times

[true stag]

also FN has shit defence but high resist

[fringe solstice]

nah the stages can be done with blaze, saria s2, exu mostly

[scarlet fulcrum]

The reason i mentioned gravel

Mostima useless here

[crisp bolt]

I've killed FN with Aak s1 before

[true stag]

yeah 'chen s3' or 'chen s3 + warf s2'

[candid hill]

oh okay

[true stag]

in scenario where 1 chen s3 can't do the job

[candid hill]

I'm double wrong sorry

[true stag]

you don't even need chen with water gun here

[earnest bobcat]

That map took me so many attempts when I was newer and had less E2s.

[crisp bolt]

yeah should be base ch'en here

chalter isn't really that bursty

[true stag]

chen with sword should be more than enough, but add in warf s2 just to be safe

[plucky grove]

chalter should be good for the 2 lanes where enemies come in tho

[true stag]

or more random nuke

[crisp bolt]

also I'd probably use mon3tr s2 for this stage

[candid hill]

so
camp phase 1 with with exu + stall
camp phase 2 with chen s3 + warfarin?

[true stag]

you just need like 2-3 ops at most at the right side of middle lane to spawncamp FN phase 2

pretty much everything can be spawncamp here

[leaden sierra]

you can also split box her with gravel and bonk with Mon3tr, she'll keep gravel alive.

[crisp bolt]

or that :ya:

[true stag]

you don't want to face the floor flip scenario where it ruins your auto (though very likely you will never auto 6-16 again)

[night silo]

what ops are good for boss dps in h15-4

[crisp bolt]

Ray

ops with high DPH are good against boss

[plucky grove]

this i agree with, i just tried mon3tr s3 and its not great for the boss, and if you do use chalter for killing waves then you dont need much more dps

[true stag]

I think majority of people just use ray here

[true stag]

mon3tr s3 is actually okay, but FN has so shit defence it is better just to use physical damage since it usually has higher total damage and dps

[plucky grove]

mon3tr gets frozen by fn and it wastes her skill lmao

[crisp bolt]

really all you need is someone to stall out FN invuln phase and just nuke her the moment it goes down

[true stag]

that is like phase 2 issue

otherwise mon3tr s3 should be fine

[fringe solstice]

Place exu here when frostnove enters stairs. Use chen guard top left to damage frostnova for exu

sorry bad screenshot saria and chen alter in middle

[candid hill]

oh

I'm nuking frostnova in the first area where she spawns

[fringe solstice]

once exu kill phase 1 retreat her

[crisp bolt]

FN takes quite a long time to get to stairs on left

you'll have time to redeploy if you want to do that

[candid hill]

would it be bad to nuke her phase 1 where she starts?

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/814125904635756544/fnf_exu_balanced.gif this is exu skill lv7, the gif maker said so

[crisp bolt]

that's what you do

[candid hill]

oh okay. I was confused what had to be done, sorry

in regards to chen's position

[crisp bolt]

man I forgot how weak FN is

[scarlet fulcrum]

Paper

[crisp bolt]

also based flamebringer bait

[scarlet fulcrum]

fr

[night silo]

is chalter not enough?

[crisp bolt]

chalter does not have that high DPH

[plucky grove]

i dont think chalter does much? boss has 3k def

actually isnt it higher because h stage

[crisp bolt]

no, just more hp

wait H stage

yeah it's 30% increase

[scarlet fulcrum]

30% def more yea

[crisp bolt]

forgor H stage buff

[plucky grove]

wow 3.9k def

[true stag]

chen with water gun does have decent dph, but it should be like around 3k or so

[crisp bolt]

so minimum damage

[true stag]

the worse part is that her kit isn't beneficial to buffs

[crisp bolt]

boss has 60k HP, that's going to take a really long time

[true stag]

unlike ops like ray or even typhon

[crisp bolt]

no atk_scale

[true stag]

typhon s3 with mon3tr s2 and warf s2 should also be decent if there is no ray

[night silo]

if thats the case, is this stage even beatable with 4 stars

[true stag]

extremely hard I guess

[crisp bolt]

well actually there's spreadshooter trait but that's not a lot

[true stag]

you need def shred

[plucky grove]

you can still use arts damage

[true stag]

unless you plan to use haze + arts

if not I don't see 4* working

[crisp bolt]

yeah there's a 4* clear

using haze

[true stag]

or thethethe...

what's her name again?

aciddrop?

[crisp bolt]

no she is not doing that much damage

even with the increased minimum damage

[true stag]

if e2 she might

[night silo]

how about eyja + ifrit

[true stag]

but then again e2

[crisp bolt]

that can work

oh the strat does end with aciddrop for the last bit of damage

[true stag]

eyja and ifrit ain't 4* I afraid

[crisp bolt]

basically the point of having high DPH is to kill the boss as quick as possible

so you don't have to be stalling out and taking out the miniboss multiple times

[night silo]

i have plenty of high dph melee ops

but i have now found out the hard way that i do not have the same for ranged

[crisp bolt]

eyja + ifrit should be fine I went lazy and did the ifrit s2 + logos s1 afk strat

[true stag]

we are talking about 4k physical damage here

[crisp bolt]

it'll just take 2-4 times of killing the miniboss

[night silo]

how about true damage

amiya or skalter

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea amiya fine

[crisp bolt]

not skalter

[copper solstice]

Skalter is like 900 dps no ?

[crisp bolt]

I'd imagine skalter would shoot up that recharge guage fast

[wary shuttle]

she's definetely not 900 dph though

[scarlet fulcrum]

welp skalter also fine

[true stag]

the few melee physical ops should only be mlynar eunectes pepe and penance

[wary shuttle]

that or you run debuffer

[copper solstice]

Skalter s3 is true damage

[scarlet fulcrum]

No need to 1 cycle it so

[true stag]

skadi is like 500 dps I guess

[scarlet fulcrum]

Can also buff ur dps instead and avoid the dot

[wary shuttle]

well yes but the boss gives you a finite amount of hits per vulnerability window, AOE auras aren't exactly known for having big dph

[crisp bolt]

skalter s3 is ~317 at e2 90 mod3 (not including seaborn)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Amoyai will 2 cycle it more easily with her buff i think

[wary shuttle]

there's some clear out there where they used both warfarin and windflit to one cycle with caster amiya

[crisp bolt]

sorry 336* I forgor the talent

[true stag]

wait isn't skalter attack be like 420+ and her s3 is 110% attack scaling?

[crisp bolt]

no 110% is the inspiration

[scarlet fulcrum]

If they have warf raised then chill

[crisp bolt]

it's 70% for the damage

but seaborn stacks (though I'm caring about DPH here)

[scarlet fulcrum]

But Like i said no need to 1 cycle it

[crisp bolt]

yeah, you can stall out before the 2nd phase of enemies btw

[scarlet fulcrum]

That guy have surtr ifrit and eyja

Dang if only they willing to post the updated roster

[fringe solstice]

I realized that surtr is easier than chen if you are still trying. I forgot my chen has mod x lv3

[candid hill]

oh okay

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its just 2020 boss stat, point exu, farm dp, additional follow, FN die without black fart

[woeful dome]

still need help with this

[scarlet fulcrum]

Lv up ur shaw skill lv to 4, then use her on top to push enemies into hole

[woeful dome]

I did, still stuck

[scarlet fulcrum]

For bottom aoe and anti air

Which part

Enemy counter if possible

[woeful dome]

392 kills with 8 escapes

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bottom right?

[woeful dome]

mhm

[scarlet fulcrum]

I meant right bottom but yea

Tank die or just leaked?

[woeful dome]

both

[scarlet fulcrum]

Show the squad u brought, probably smt weird there

[bronze steeple]

Uh i dont know i think this is the right channel to ask
I have troubles beating s3-8 im kinda confused what do i do
i think i have a strong enough team i just dont know what to do

[woeful dome]

lemme record a run

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dont block Misha, keep her looping. Bait the ranged atk. It splashed but far weaker than her meele

[scarlet fulcrum]

Thats gonna take time since 400 kill

[bronze steeple]

oh so those def up tiles on the ground are just a ragebait

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea

Oh wait 3-8 is misha not Alex

💀

[fringe solstice]

something like this. The senior caster hit in 4 adjacent so this positioning prevent taking too much damage. humus might die tho. so you can use red, utage, etc to help. Warfarin s1

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just show squad is enough

Squad u used to attempt

[woeful dome]

ok then gimme a sec

[bronze steeple]

Thank you those def up tiles really kept me away from just trying to puting my units behind

[scarlet fulcrum]

Their actual purpose only for dropping ded body to delay the loop. So ur dps can kill her. tho irrelevant since the boss stats just horrible

[woeful dome]

nvm got 400 now

[scarlet fulcrum]

👍 learning from mistake, thats even better, congrats btw

[woeful dome]

ty!

[scarlet fulcrum]

yw

[fickle ravine]

Idk how to deal with phase2 TwT guess I would die

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just the same routine, mimic to wraith, golem to weakening device

[fickle ravine]

Thank for the tips mate OwO

[lapis hornet]

np

[golden gyro]

What is lamp

[night silo]

does h15-4 have a death timer

[earnest bobcat]

Yes actually if the boss is alive.

[leaden sierra]

After 420 seconds or 7m, you will automatically lose. I'm assuming the story reason is that you're buying time for mechanist to use the backdoor to disable PRTS.

[leaden sierra]

Lamp of wishes, you can get it from an encounter on floor 1. If you wanna know how it works, refer to this post: #is-station message

But tldr: get to 1 LP by traveling at yellow toil. Once at 1 LP, refresh to get a wish node, preferably a combat that otherwise wouldn't give you a plan. Get your hand relic and king relic from the wish node. You need a minimum of 5 wish node visits to get your hand and 4 king relics. If you get a lot of ingots, you'll also get the toy and chalice, which will skyrocket your aspd.

[spring chasm]

What are y'all's strategies for H15-4? I just can't kill the damn miniboss fast enough to get another round of wailing on the source code.

[regal frost]

ceobe

and logos

[spring chasm]

Ceobe on the miniboss, ey?

[regal frost]

I used ceobe and logos for mimic machine and boss

chip down the mimic machine so when it enters ceobe and logos range their auto attacks kill

[smoky laurel]

is there a clear that doesn't involve shu, virtuosa, viviana or ray for h15-4 and doesn't require max pot ops and is simple to follow?

[regal frost]

then use skills for both, when mimic machine revives logos and ceobe skills still active so it dies again

used ifrit and suzu for extra damage

[regal frost]

send squad?

[spring chasm]

chip him down with who tho? I was following a nuking guide but i just dont have the firepower

[regal frost]

I used monster to chip him down

show other 6 stars?

[spring chasm]

oof.

[rustic narwhal]

How am I supposed to counter the massive amount of enemies in 15-5?

[regal frost]

oh wait you have ifrit and ceobe

[spring chasm]

i was trying ifrit earlier but i sucked at timing

[regal frost]

ascalon, reedic

wis

[spring chasm]

statuses are amazing as well

[rustic narwhal]

Sorry I'm a new player so I don't really have that many operators..

[fringe solstice]

the timing shouldn't be too difficult. ceobe s2 last a long time and ifrit s3 isn't needed unless you want to beat it in 1 cycle

[regal frost]

you have me added don't you? I'll set as support

[rustic narwhal]

Oh thank you

[regal frost]

ascalon set

[acoustic slate]

I mean if you want help then you need to let people know who you have.

[regal frost]

just ping when needed

[spring chasm]

it kills me that when I get my first cycle on wailing the boss and survive the second wave, the stage just fails

[rustic narwhal]

Oh um yeah

Sorry

[regal frost]

also hi space

[spring chasm]

😔
If it isnt the mini boss obliterating my squad during his revival phase, it certainly is the stage just ending

[fringe solstice]

so you lose to second wave or timeout? The second wave can be stopped by killing the robot before the golems spawn, changing the killgate to the top golem.

[spring chasm]

Both actually.

[river mortar]

@smoky laurel for the cleanup?

mon3tr is good at killing golems

[acoustic slate]

Bro took 8 ops and said “damn I don’t have enough ops”

[river mortar]

bro asked for a strat without shu and proceeded to use shu...

[fringe solstice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWxvvkGorOo
At 1:14 the robot is killed before the golems.
So at 1:45 you only have to stall a golem while dealing with the boss

[spring chasm]

Something else on my mind. How do y'all survive against the enemy's damage? this whole chapter is filled with enemy nukes

[fringe solstice]

The other way is to burst down wave 2 with eyja s3 or something and have good healing like shu and nigthingale etc

[river mortar]

which enemy

also you can use like

logos ifrit surtr for easy 2 cycle

ulpi gladiia can lanehold a bit

ray is also very good here

[fringe solstice]

This clear uses shu s3, skadi s2 and perfumer for healing and logos to kill wave 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4aDRFKoGZI

[spring chasm]

The miniboss.
As far as my runs go, if I don't have a healer to top up Gladiia bottom lane, the miniboss kills her.

[leaden sierra]

The yellow bomb gets weaker the longer it travels, logo S3 is effective

[smoky laurel]

when i use more ops i fail even more

[acoustic slate]

Then what are you complaining about

If that’s true then why is not having enough ops a problem

Incoherent

[lapis hornet]

borrow spalter with ah mod no kappa

[fringe solstice]

This is what I ended up doing. You probably need another medic. I would remove cantabile.

[lapis hornet]

can nuke miniboss again while surtr still up if you time it right

not v hard

[leaden sierra]

you killed the boss too late, so now the killgate is useless

[fringe solstice]

I didn't use killgate

because I didn't know about it

[smoky laurel]

okay mon3tr carried

[leaden sierra]

ohh, alr,

[smoky laurel]

lol

[lapis hornet]

stalling smh

[smoky laurel]

didn't think she could smoke mimic so fast

[fickle ravine]

Finally

[regal frost]

good job Pikachu

[fickle ravine]

Appreciated mate OwO

[lapis hornet]

zamn another 5* player

[fickle ravine]

OwO

[lapis hornet]

this plague is spreading

[fickle ravine]

Lost like 300 time sad

[lapis hornet]

makes victory all the sweeter

[fickle ravine]

Yes thank mate OwO

[smoky laurel]

i honestly admire people that don't use 6 stars for whatever reason

[leaden sierra]

Figurino use case?

[smoky laurel]

unless you tryna challenge yourself

then you're a masochist lmao

[fickle ravine]

Yes sir figurino s2 is the only reliable way to bind boss

For me TwT

But u have to bind him before it got pick up cuz figurino can’t target flying target

[leaden sierra]

You bind it, then kill, and it gives you DP back, makes sense, but still wow. You'd probably have an easier time with Indigo, but that's a very impressive solution for 5* only.

[fickle ravine]

Please don’t mention indigo I screamed her name a lots of time really want to have her in the squad

[smoky laurel]

what is so special about indigo bro

[leaden sierra]

nothing special, just good perma bind during skill and rng bind off skill. Also, good range and damage cause she's a mystic caster.

[fickle ravine]

She’s also deal art damage the boss has too much def

[limpid ore]

only problem she is 4star so he cant put it to the 5star only squad

[smoky laurel]

honestly can't say much bout those since i use 6 stars all the time

[crisp bolt]

wow arkrec fraud site, has contrail in the 5* clear

[leaden sierra]

Basically, Ray S3, but with less damage and arts.

[limpid ore]

and cheaper investment

[crisp bolt]

that's a pretty big understatement on the less damage

[limpid ore]

4star kits are pretry straightforward

also should see the damage graph on her s2

[crisp bolt]

I know it's not that bad but Ray s3 damage is a lot

I like indigo, she's a fun is5 draft when I don't want to do click

[leaden sierra]

If I had to eyeball and keep in mind with like 1500 DEF and 40 RES enemy, like.... Ray probably has 3.5x more?

It's the golden 4, click, indigo, pudding, Haze, but you'll never get to haze realistically.

[limpid ore]

haze the embodiment of glass

[crisp bolt]

[limpid ore]

only matter if skill issue

pudding has unique bounce back chain on her s2 that isnt available in other chain caster

[leaden sierra]

Haze delta with nervous Impairment would go hard.

[limpid ore]

forever weakened by not having kotatsu

[smoky laurel]

forever weakened by not having 4 stars built for is5

and i gotta do it for the mudrock skin

(i'm a mudrock fan)

[sage drift]

I am a mudrock fan tho

[unkempt lintel]

wtf mudrock fan still alive

[sage drift]

I mean, she's always been a good unit, best unit even if you look from non-fan perspective

[regal frost]

just no

outdated af

you can like her as much as you want, just don't tell others to build her

[river mortar]

shes still a very solid laneholder and does her job well

not a top prio build but shes not bad

[unkempt lintel]

frfr

i still use double flag with mudrock to plug lanes

[fresh copper]

Mudrock will still do well enough for general content

Higher end content is where laneholders really start to fall off though

[full stream]

i cant remember the last time mudrock won a 1v1 against an event elite from the recent events i for damn sure knows she aint beating the captain from thronsalt event

i guess she can stall and win against the trees in banana's event after 20 mins🙂

[spring chasm]

Even my Executor can't handle the barrel pirates ngl

[full stream]

not even the barrel dudes the bastards that spawn grunts and gives them corrosion damage

[lusty knot]

Guys, newbie here…trying to complete 2-8. I use my pusher in the bottom rght corner to clear the bottom lane, and try to hold the line with Cuora, Exu, Kroos, Myrrh, Amiya, but the elites always breal through when I get distracted by the airborne troops dropped close to my blue exists. Team is lvl30, Exu and Amiya is lvl50. I usually borrow a pusher champ from friends list, as mine is still lvl1.
What do I do wrong?

[fringe solstice]

what pusher and skill are you using?

[pearl breach]

You can start by dropping a charger/ pioneer on the bot lane then Shaw can solo hold top lane. Make sure you have him at least on sl4 for push +1 force. Higher = better.

You can place the range by facing right or top. Defend the bottom lane with two or three blockers. Since you cant kill them fast enough.

[south spindle]

No way yumes alive

[pearl breach]

Lol

[south spindle]

[pearl breach]

Hello light

[lusty knot]

I borrow Weedy usually and leave her doing her tricks. I have Shaw, and I could upgrade her if she is good for the job.

[pearl breach]

Borrowing is fine. Weedy is a better option.

But use her s1 or s2 instead s3

[fringe solstice]

well I would confirm you are using the first skill

[pearl breach]

Maybe just s1 since the stage is kinda short.

[lusty knot]

Yeah, she is holding the bottom line perfectly. My issue is with the elites and airborne swarm in the upper lane. My Cuora usually breaks, as I try to contain the airbornes dropped behind my team to the right section of the map.

I considered building Shaw for bottom line pusher, and borrow some very tanky defender instead

[wispy ledge]

just upgrade her skill to level 4, you can keep her at e0level 0

id put shaw at the bottom + a healer then grab a dps for the top lane

[south spindle]

You dont need skill level 4 for that map

[wispy ledge]

oh

[south spindle]

The tiles exist for a reason

[lusty knot]

What kind of DPS? AoE Caster, or someone like SilverAsh?

[fringe solstice]

Idk what your squad is but I recommend 2 snipers and 2 casters preferably 1 aoe caster

[wispy ledge]

@lusty knot well use shaw and grab a dps (wisadel s3/logos s1/3 to cheese, sash/mlynar/chen the holungday if you just wanna make the stage a bit easier)

[lusty knot]

My squad is Cuora, Lappland, Cardigan, Myrrh, Hibiscus, Exu, Amiya, Kroos, Jessica, Melantha, Fang, Scavenger.

[fringe solstice]

yeah you want steward or lava. Drones with the weird aura(defense drones) increase the defense of other enemies.

[wispy ledge]

do you have any other casters

amiya is expensive (material wise) + doesnt really do much more than a 3*

[lusty knot]

Lava, Steward and Gitano.

[lusty knot]

ouchie, I pushed to E1 already investing into skills. She is cutesy, I like her ☺️

[wispy ledge]

try steward
splash casters are good now but their value goes down a cliff really soon since their damage is low + they have a high dp cost

[wispy ledge]

no worries e1 is cheap
her e2 is pretty expensive though just like other 5*

her damage is good enough

[lusty knot]

Okay, I build Shaw and Steward and try to borrow a top DPS from friends list. Hopefully this will be enough to win this stage 🤣

[wispy ledge]

you dont have to invest much in shaw
iirc shaw works fine at e0l1 skill level 4 for 99% of stages that needs her
also works fine rn at skill level 0

[limpid ore]

it's level 1 minimum

[wispy ledge]

oh

[limpid ore]

you cant go lower than 1

[wispy ledge]

oops

[limpid ore]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Oh this stage