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Lemme double check
Never would have guessed
Im pretty sure injury doesnt count but the actual elemental DOT does
Thatโs what I would suspect
@full terrace
Yeah Necrosis Burst doesnt fill SP bar unless you do the "hit"
wtf impatient supah 
Yea thats pretty good
Damn thatโs surprising
Virtuosa can do 3 Necrosis Burst S1 yea
isnโt s3 better in this case because she stop attacking?
Thats why I thought its better to assign Virtuosa on boss duty
S3 prob works too yea
She should only need 2 s1 which would do a bit of damage. Though with module sheโll do good damage on s3
Yeah what Space said
probably, but it comes down to if S3 can pull off an extra burst or not
I think S1 sends the boss into Burst mode faster than S3
otherwise S1 probably wins out tbh
ceobe combo for one cycle 
I can show my ops but I think might lack dps but thats prob just me
No ceobe sadly 
So urm, I would suggest you abuse the killgate, so that you dont need to worry about the etc enemies
then virtuosa 
probably not Mumu, and you need a boss DPS too
did we already talk about how virtousa s2 works?
I'm not sure where you plan to use Logos but he can probably DPS the boss if there's an Ifrit on it too
Nah not S2. S2 you are making other units do Necrosis Injury, but the thing is, that unit does "normal attacks" which fills the boss's SP faster. Virtuosa is great because she doesnt do normal attacks
If you use S2 you probably wont get 3 Bursts
ideally you don't wanna take too long to kill the boss, both because it just fails you after 7 minutes, and because the mimic gets stronger each time it revives
Miniboss is not a big threat if you have the burst, the only problem with that is to keep the miniboss in your units attack range
ceobe combo kills in 10 seconds 
Actually no virt either but if talking about supp op then thats another issue ig 
ill try figuring out something for now tho
you can show your ops then, virtuosa can work alone afaik, ceobe wants ifrit
Surtr also helps if you have her
She has res shred and she doesnt have high hit count
Perfect for the boss
surtr + ifrit?
I havent really tried that technology
probably works, boss goes from like 55 res to like 20-30ish with Ifrit (accounting for Surtr's res ignore)? the extra damage is probably worth Ifrit's extra attacks, she doesn't attack fast anyways
There are more but they're the rest of 4* and 5* basically
what technology?
Surtr+Ifrit ๐
Is there link to the full vid?
Okay you can abuse the killgate. Cuora+Shining on Golem stall duty up there. Mon3tr with a bit of help can draw the first blood on miniboss bottom right, and you borrow Virtuosa for boss duty.
The rest of your resources, use them to lanehold and burst the miniboss.
Read this bit #strategy message and scroll down a bit
i donโt have surtr friends to try
but i have viviana, lets see if she can one cycle like ceobe
my surtr e0 
I have Surtr and Ifrit, no Surtr mod though
I see

Aight thanks a lot ill try it out 
Best of luck there
I personally went with Ray + Warf + Suzuran, that one cycles the boss too
@full terrace we should never doubt about vivi 
Yeah that looks good
quick test, no mod Surtr + Ifrit + Ela mines does this much in one cycle
so mod3 Surtr + Ifrit probably kills in two cycles?
yeah itโs the same with ceobe, so they all need saria s3 for one cycle
That stupid crab deals so fucking much ๐ญ
Thx bro, Iโm cleared it now but I respect those micromanaging skills
It was just that stage had so much unique mechanics especially stalling
can someone help me with H15-4?
Im lacking a lot of the limited characters I see in vids and im bad at the gem, so idk what to do ๐ญ
yesterday I tried all afternoon with diff strats and couldnt do it
What's your box?
lemme log in
There's no helping you without an idea of what's at your disposal.
And now we wait for someone better than me to get into chat. 
ye
i was running this, clearing the map with w'alter while setting up logos s3 with ifrit to dmg the big boss and then using mon3tr to mess up the boss, but idk what to do after that cuz i needa 2 cycle it and i kent ๐
If you're dying after the mini boss recovers, it's likely that you aren't proactively activating weakening nodes yourself and letting the sub boss thing do the chain reaction big AoE fuck off beam of death.
Also, tbh, I'm pretty sure Saileach+ Myrtle might be overkill here. 
im thinkin bout a diff strat
lemme see how i do dis
how do you the killgate thing? i suppose is that no mob spawns after like 13 kills while you keep the golem alive?
I have no clue, I suck at the game. 
Anyways, @novel moth have you considered teleporting the thing to right under the blue objective point in the middle so that you repeatedly hit the enemy with a fuck ton of stuff in the same location? @novel moth 
teleport who with what
The mimic machine I mean.
with what
The thing you need to beat up to open the actual boss.
and you better not say shu
Yu S2.
ah
ok, so you mean i teleport it to yu and then down it once
do u get the skill back before it moves again?
Multiple times even.
the thing gets a lot more manageable if you can cluster several DPSes at the same place and have them all do concentrated fire + get healing from stuff like Mon3tr.
and i use logos and ifrit to dps the bos i guess, and then wis where you have it to clear the mid section and kaltsit to hold the lane on top (i got no virtuosa)
She's just there to contribute to doing top. 
Ehh? I had mine look up.
didya clear it?
Things got a bit shaky near the end, but sure.

oki
Who killed the boss here lol, was it Virtuosa?
I've been doing Logos primary DPS on boss kills. 
did he 2 cycle it? Even with 3 that's impressive, Logo is busted I guess.
No, but Nate has skill issue and sucks anyways moment.
You're asking the wrong person if you want that sort of thing.
I'm just giving Brefi an option based on what I see in his box and what he could feasibly replicate.
Which is abusing Yu S2 to make the mimic machine a lot easier to repeatedly kill. 
I mean, they shouldn't be struggling with that comp, so I'll let them suffer, but if you really wanna know, there's a super easy cheeze there.
that doesnt work for me, if i pull the mimic into that corner it just throws the big ball and kills all my units
wait so your problem is the mimic or is it the boss?
i can down the mimic once with a certain method but after its up again i just leak and my characters die
I see a gladia there

mimic
doesnt the hand just take it away anyway?
wait sry, by mimic you meant the mini boss, not the transforming mobs
yeah, the mini boss
It is literally called mimic machine. 
how do you deal with the mid section, Lucas?
yeah, I don't look at names lol
im having such a hard time with this map ;- ;
So basically, if your issue is the mimic or the boss
cause you have a timer
then what you can do is focus all your units on the boss
to do that, you can use a killgate
yeah, I'm advocating sweat strats
1s, brb
I kinda want to try that out at least once myself.
basically, the enemies spawn in waves
if you don't kill an enemy, the rest of the wave doesn't spawn
we call that a kill gate
Anyways, gimme a few secs to record a video, I feel like being more helpful.
I was too lazy to record so I'm stealing from other people
see that golem at the top, with 12/37 count. You can just put a healing defender on his way, and you just don't kill him.
The rest of the wave won't spawn, and you can focus everyone on the boss.
if you still struggling you can ofc look up a guide, but this is the main trick
gl
Don't forget that you need to drop the boss BEFORE Golems comes in the map.
Or magic won't work.
omg, I forgot to tell them that. Ty Bengal
...
Excuse me as I bang my head on a wall for a few seconds.
I just did something fun. Asca + Yu, they made the miniboss a complete toy. When the cursor is there to drag it, Asca up for -85% Mov Speed reduction, it will travel 1 tile only. When it drops down the ground, Yu S2 teleport it back and kill with Burn Burst
Rinse and repeat the miniboss wont go anywhere
Asca debuff affecting aerial targets is a cheat
ascalon 20 sp cycle go use case
but if you go at the big guy too fast, won't it be a problem? Someone with Surtr speed should be enough tho
Ascalon still needs a healer, so 3 ops, while with Rey, you can put her somewhere safe and permabind it when it wakes up. She'll also help DPS. Although she needs 30 sp, so idk. Time to test.
Babel rerun announced
Ex 8 
does yuu S2 work against prts?
The stationary, no.
The one that moves, yes.
The worst part will be figuring out where the chain will move after using mon3tr S3 and ulpi S3.
idk what that means
like I assume that the 4x6 monster is not going to be able to be pulled
It works on this guy
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but do you mean the sub boss has phases where he is pullable
Weight 6. 
pullable in this context is yuu bs s2
If it's not in the air, it's pullable. 
It will be like you undeployed him/her and then redeploy, so if he/she is chained to someone beforehand, that chain is gone, and then he/she creates new chain after "redeployment".
I played around with Ulpi before
As long as you uh..
Deploy Gladiia for example
Right before Ulpi
And Ulpi as last deployed
He will just keep creating the chain with Gladiia
When you activate/deactivate his skill he'd just get chained to Gladiia
So I can place the M3 crystal in "dangerous tiles" and she'll hop on them if there is a friend nearby to make the chain...
Yep she will make the chain
and then make a new chain on return
Bro Mon3tr gonna kill this event, I feel like
Assassins' dodge means nothing to True Damage
This is gonna be something
Are you sure its not Andoain dodge
Ah tile jump should be no issue ๐
they won't do it if chained yeah..
Like Mon3tr's range is 3x3
You come from below her
Dash
Now you are above her
Still within 3x3 range
still needs like 7-8 hits to kill, need a defender behind
But yeah, she'll eat that for breakfast
24,000/2270= 10 hits or 11 with no help, still very good, they're tanky after all.
I'm more worried about the cycles
Unless you bring Suzuran or Asca
And slows everything down to buy time for her to recharge
Regardless, Low-End clear is gonna be a nightmare
At least for BB-S-4, you gotta rotate or something, the good thing is, she can switch between lanes. And that stages has a nasty wave at the end to the far left box.
clearly I should run Mostima.
Sure
BB-S-4 and OR-S-3 are the hardest dps check event/side story stages in the game
And the Sakiko event in the future
SS-EX-8 I believe
Oh, Sakio farming boss stage looked pretty bad as it is. Suffering is coming alongside highschool girls.
I'm so interested to see how BB S stages go for me, because I feel like I am starting to do story stages pretty comfortably now
If you have built squad it's fairly easy
If your dps is lacking, thats a big problem
Please, bb was kinda hard before
But its year later and we have the busted ops now
It will be a breeze 
DPS is definitely where I lack the most, but everything else is pretty solid
babel is before exu right?
Fyi, Kyo used 2x 6 Star on both BB-S-4 and OR-S-3 Low-End, he told you to "come back next year" in one video, and said "disgusting disgusting" in the other ๐
Also chisha mentioned that FSLO score for both stages are 12
My account was newer back last year.
These days...

Well, it's taken several leaps in effectiveness.
slow down, slow down, I'm still experimenting on story stages. This chapter was so short.
I did OR-S-3 a few months back but I had to rely on the forbidden strategy of using two pullers since I didn't have as much DPS at that point
I didnt find bb too difficult back then
But i so dont wanna replay all the stages

Man
Remember when i streamed doing S stages last year
oh did they patch Yu moving big PRTS
Yes
what are people using to kill prts? H stages
15-20 or H15-4?
Ah
Surtr+Ray
tried Ceobe hyper buff, but doesn't look amazing tbh
Ceobe hyperbuff 1 cycle
Drop Ela mine to fasten the process
Ifrit S3, Suzuran S3, Saria S3
havent touched chap 15 so wouldnt know
just that i have things to test e.g. dp blocker casters and missiles can be nullified by changing map resolution n perspectives
ceobe + warf + skalter S3 + ela mines+ saria S3
I've been too busy with homework to have the mental energy to try H15-4 yet, but would true damage work there? I've got Mon3tr and Kaltsit
Yeah.. not like that
I can do ifrit
No ground tile for PRTS
Must be ranged dps
ah, that does make it more interesting then
Surtr is an exception, she can hit 3 tiles away
No. Boss doesn't have any Melee tile to deploy both Monstas.
is that all?
but I am going to run S3 to kill mini-trs
Here is some Vasallo video #strategy message
And here is the Viviana version #strategy message
I'll try a 2 cycle
Surtr works too for the Viviana version
just trying to decide if laptop will be nice for this stage for the other enemies
middle lane is abit of pita
I do have Ifrit, Mon3tr, and Vivi so maybe I can make something like that work
yeah I guess it wasn't said that you had to get it during the event duration
look at this limited time reward
Yeah Medals can be gotten anytime
And Event Shop currency can be farmed at Supply Stages or something
Thats why I didnt wanna bother to make guides for H stages ๐
oh this is the off-board checklist
which I think can only be gotten during the event
Remind to myself, i need to look at this later

Do we have h15-4 low end clear yet?
There are some out there
But I wouldnt say it's much of a Low-End
Because 2x 6 Star
H stages are a bunch of dps check
Some of the off-board missions have a timer on them and some don't, so I would expect the ones without to be permanent
Possible to beat SSS Barren Beasts Concert Hall with Goldenglow? I don't have Wisadel so I cant make use of the exclusive EC unit with sniper specialty.
I am considering Aegirillian Scope for Ulpi Gladia...
The device is not used like that, you seem very confused
No I mean like, I dont have any strong sniper other than Exusiai atm (if only Wisadel s1). Idk who to make a carry unit if I were to use the exclusive device.
Any high ground carry will be fine, you still use the Sniper device
Oh holup, it still boosts ATK anyways. Aight I'll try out GG carry and see how far I go then.
Actually
Exusiai might be best for that tower
You want unit with high hit count
For the Gramaphone
How about uh
If you have a good tank/damage sponge, you can also just eat their hits and basically perma block it from moving.
Grreyy Alter mayhaps...

Exusiai does have fast attack speed tho. I wanted wide range :(
Okay good, I can maybe take Ulpianus I think, or 4x defender 1x vg Mudrock?
You still wanna setup the sniper stuff for damage, cause normal enemies get buffs and gotta kill them too, but Ulpi does in fact just work. I haven't tried mudrock, so hard to say, lemme check the boss stats.
Dont draft like that
You know how the devices work right? The "equipment" gives you buff when an operator belonging to a certain class is stacked
Ye
So for example, Sniper equipment gives 40 Aspd you you stack it
Its just power of stickers mechanic, this one less micro no steward (but u need luck with melantha) so steward preferred. All skill still lv1, and all trust less than 10%
I was thinking of 3 low cost snipers to quickly set it up
With the device, you get not only 40 aspd, but also 200 atk and 100 def ignore
So your play is
Stack 5 Snipers
And then stack your carry unit
Yea
Defenders will be a pain to setup, the boss has 3k attack without buffs, so I wouldn't recommend it. Also, attack interval is faster than mudrock shield, so tldr, he'll steamroll her.
Rip. Ulpi I suppose. A carry unit like Exusiai and Ulpi dmg sponge then?
U mentioned high hitcount so I assume my best one is Exusiai then
And 8 "main units"
Main units as in, the carry units
For the ground units you dont need to stack equipment on them
Oh. I'll set up mine then screenshot it here if it needs any fixing
Yeah the problem with that tower is that
Ohhhh
The boss is almost unkillable
Im still gonna shill Thorns alt as the best op to use vs that SSS boss 
But
I dont have Wisadel s1 so ๐
Whenever you deal dmg to the Gramaphone, the boss takes True Damage
So you want to hit the Gramaphone quick
To deal dmg to the boss
Now the thing is, Goldenglow's drones prioritize
Enemies closer to your blue box
And since the boss position will be closer to your blue box than the Gramaphone
Goldenglow's drones will just stick to the boss all the way
Dealing 0 damage
Lmfao rip
Her drones prioritize "closer enemies" to herself
Exusiai is one with attack speed
So if you position her closer to the Gramaphone
All the drones will swarm the Gramaphone
And the boss takes massive damage
Thats why I recommend Exu coz she has high hit count
And with the 5x Sniper equipment
She does decent damage
Gramaphone will take a lot of damage from her and so does the boss
Oh btw for your "12 equipment units", in this case 12x Sniper
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Ye I already had an idea
Im gonna return to this lol
Aight heres what I got so far for the SSS Concert Hall normal mode
Yeah that looks good
I use GG S3 or GG S2?
Krooster can also help with the Gramaphone if needed
And Ulpi+Glad can stall the boss
And buy you time to dps the Gramaphone
Goldenglow S3 on the way to the boss stage
But once you are there, use S2
You use S3 her drones will just stick themselves to the boss
Interesting
Condition is that, you never fail a stage
All the way to the boss stage
For the Secret Medal I mean
Yeah Ray is good for it, high dph, low hit count
Overrated you mean ๐
Anyone with schwartz y mod?
Me
Pot 0
starting 70K and ending 130K for P1 for me
did u add trust
Did you randomize or use formula
Just formula
So I assumed talent2 lightning benefits from s2 atk buff immediately
But that shouldn't make a huge difference
yeah it does
Yea as long as the curve looks good that's what matters
atk buff before strike
Cool. Yea that's what I thought based on how other skills work
And I assume module raises base atk before any multipliers?
Nice
Did you account for the desync between lightning strikes and her atk interval?
Wdym?
Its a seperate thing ya
I kind of averaged out the tile to atk buff
Lightning every 1s but attacks every 1.2s
Ye
That was a bit annoying
Uh actually nvm I didn't average, instead
helper function to calculate the average tiles struck by the time the nth attack goes off
Ok yea same
ye ik 0 is invalid
just looks ugly
Just ur total damage seems a little different
but close enough
Yea I wonder why
uh its 1 and 1/30s ackshaully
:joyplush:
Huh. Ok I just trusted the skill description lol
yeah they do this to reduce the variance
they prevent u from getting too lucky/unlucky by implementing this system
Yea that makes sense. But they could have made it actually 1.0s. Seems like a rounding/framerate thing
Anyway, the tldr is you want to have at least 6 tiles in her range
I failed :(
I did pass after like 3rd attempt. Had to rethink cuz those annoying flute blowers are oneshotting my units 
Might try again to see if I can do it in one go
Me when they prevent me from highrolling Leizi skill 2 talent 
highrollers must be executed
@south spindle (or anyone) you wanna see if this logic checks out? (currentDamage is cumulating the total damage here)
Light is in the middle of a date with his boyfriend Theacc
you can check these formulas if feeling extra unemployed
Bet
currentAtk = 432 x (1 + 2 + numLightnings x 0.1) x 1.13
i didnt check if base atk is 432 but surely its correct
oh wait u did x1.13 to numlightnings too
yeah thats fine
360 + 30 trust + 42 mod yea
Are you including the talent2 damage somewhere?
uh lets see
erm talent 2 damage is like 1.5K or something it seems i dont even know if correct
it waso n the next line then i kind of omitted it because i actually did these calcs like minutes of Leizi2 release
Didn't test when talent 2 attack gets captured or smth confusing like that
Yeah
I averaged to
1.5K
and called it
but then was like errr this is suspicious
i see a 0 in my numbers at the bottom negating it out
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Haha

Damn
H15-4
Was scuffed as hell
Brute forced it with global warming + monst3r buff
I mean actually it worked
Brainless strat
The issue is timing the burst to kill the wave
Just the problem is they hit so often with the globals and even the burn proc its suspicious
But as long asy ou got it

And still have time to damage prts
No
Even with warf?
Or maybe shamare
I did add shamare
How tf
One more VG
Need 1-2 more vanguard to hold early
Then replace them with gud guards or defenders then start setting up
wai so put Spot in Lapplands Spot then retreat and put Lappalnd last?
u want lappland to be last deployed instead of ptil because top right has ranged enemies coming down(spot is down early so u can block some early mobs while u get the dp to set up)
if I can defend it can I just place Lappland last and skip Spot
if u have the dp to put down ptil>lappland>throns sure if u do this u put down spot at cuora first as u set up krooster/kroos and ansel then replace spot with cuora
okay im kinda confused on deploy order now
whatever it is u want cuora to be last deploy and lappland deployed after ptil
Kinda confused what's Shaw doing here again she died to ranged units and she didn't push anyone that got past
wait for leader wraiths need skill4 s1 i think i specify that she is on there to deal with wraiths coming during 200+ after that she can get bench and u can place tequila above cuora
the wraiths will stop coming after second wraith leader
Leader what
I'm so confused rn but I beat it anyways
the unblockable bastards=wraiths
Leader wraiths i mean a running dude with 3 lights on his helmet
Or big helmet
Oh they died really fast to Thorns S3 and Lappland
i remembered them being tankier i am old mb used to do this without an e2 back then
Thorns s3 is such a good shit too have early game
Back the when i struggled on anni 2

if u knew the shaw trick they were only two real threats red weeb/caster x formation
The answer was
JUST SURTR IT
YEEEEEEEEE
NEGATIVE IQ SQUAD, ONWARDS
Do you have vids for that? 
If anyone have any clue as to how i can beat h15-4, much appreciated

Damn they really made h15 4 that hard.. I am also struggling right now
same
kill drone with m3ster, kill boss with virtuosa adjacent, borrow wis to hold bot, rest of lineup hold top n help bot
Mont3r can solo top
Ray + warf when machine down
Against the main boss
Then the rest is up to you since its bot lane has tons of enemies
Necrass, gladiia, yu, ceobe, virtuosa, mon3tr. U are set
uhh what should I use to kill the boss
What boss, what stage

If u are asking for h15-4 use rays3+ela s3(just the trap for fragile)
Add warfarin too and you literally can one cycle it.
What did i do wrong???
did i miss time logos s3? or was it smth else cuz i thought that i did it right
Well with bottom projectiles already leaving slowness field before skill was anywhere near ending to delete them is answer enough 
You need to complete Logos S3 cycle to remove the balls 
On this case. Your logos dies before he complete the cycle
The result you've done there is you practically edging 10 balls in front of Logos and then let it out at once
Effectively erasing all your operators lmao.
so i effectively have to pre-fire his skill
Yea.. time it Just enough to slow down all 10 waves of balls.
Anyway you unintentionally made the best meme on that stage

LMAO
STOOPP
I hate that the destruction had so much anticipation
Like a slingshot
drawing a bow
But ye, u need to active his s3 bit sooner
And that also reminded me i still have not done that stage

Gosh that is so brutal
atleast make it become popular so my failure becomes a success (ngl i can't stop laughing at it either)
Timing issue
Should have pressed little more late.
Or earlier
Earlier is correct I guess.
@full stream no tile for mon3 in H-4 
Yeah u have to use ranged ops now I can't remember what u have but it needs high dph if psychical
I can borrow wisadel if she counts as dph
Dph=damage per hit and u know she has 3k def so it needs to be high
Wis can take the mid side pretty well but people usually used something else to kill the boss
Beside wis
My choice is naran or typhon. I'm probably not cut out for this yet
Is arts an option?
Maybe virtuosa, I heard she's True
She is elemental and yes she is a viable option
There is a killgate u can abuse
3 business days probably 
Bengal fox did mention this imma go ahead reread that
physical, arts, true, elemental
Waaaaah I forgot to stall the golem
all that work for nothing
trial and error
Uh I downed the minion down once before golem spawn yet it enters laser phase anyways
its a timing thing
Ceobe and Yu s3 is your best chance probably?
https://krooster.com/u/kodama
Is there a way for me to beat adverse 15-20?
you activated Logos s3 too late
yes
does anybody have any plans for 6-11
Idk, i like to visit 7-11 more
this is perhaps the first time i get so completly overrun before the midpoint of the level i have no clue what to do
This is what i am using
mind screenshotting the stage?
Itโs one of the difficulty jumps
oh i remember that stage
if youโre okay with support units, wisadel lol
if not, i can help in a few min
I am not the one asking for help
Ye itโs fine lol
@errant hawk use max lvl voucher on tequila, use Wisadel if you want to cheese it or follow kyo/eckogen low rarity clear if you donโt
i see will do
any advice on layouts/supports to bring if needed? I've tried setting people on the anti-air runes, but they usually get nuked too quick by the shooter drones to really do anything. stage is pr-b-2
Kill drones from bottom ranged tiles or deploy gravel or something else for drones to shoot right after sniper on anti-drone rune
yea put ops on the bottom ranged tiles, im not sure if e1 is enough, but for my auto my ranged units kill the single damage-dealing drone before they die, and they can still hit the rest of the drones
putting ops on the bottom tiles also makes it take longer for the big drone to enter their range, so it will probably die before it reaches your ops (and also at that point youd have enough dp to deploy healers)
Okay, that makes sense. my blue poison is not doing aaaaanything to these drones so im just gonna run with e2 amiya on one side and support on another and pray
oh yea your blue poison is probably getting screwed by the def increaser drone
That was what I had assumed, yeah. I guess casters will be effective, and then I can put her in an anti air tile once I have more units down.
have you tried blue poison skill 1 btw, since it gets activated earlier she might be able to kill the drone fast enough
ohhhhh that's a good point.... I'll try that in a bit.
which one?
Well... Every that is active right now? It seems that its going to be gone in 2 days
those ones that are going away are the annihilation simulations, AKA the old rotating annihilations (our current rotating is called Kurfurstenplatz). They won't go away permanently, they just change which ones are available every so often.
Each one is a little different, so you can try looking at guides on Youtube to see what operators they guidemaker used, and whether you could swap some of them out for your own operators.
In general though, you're going to want Vulpisfoglia + Elysium (or Myrtle) for DP generation, Necrass as your best DPS, and some mix of medics, blockers, snipers, other DPS, etc. depending on the particular Annihilation mission.
On monday reset available "practice" ones will rotate, those are for first time reward for people who missed them. They will return
I agree with the other advice. Each stage is different. I would borrow Thorns or Typhon to make it easier, since e2 physical dps that can hit anything is good.
Abandon Mine: Thorns/Typhon
Lungmen Commercial District: Thorns
County Hillock: Thorns
New Hotel Avenue: Typhon
Long Spring Wastes: aoe(chen alter, executor alter, etc)/Thorns
Little Aquapit: Typhon
Icebound Valley: Thorns
So, I defeated the boss, now my problem is im leaking mobs after
heyo. Still stuck on H15-4?
after you beat it it is more of the same wave with golems at the top and casters, machines, golems at the bottom
and runners and drones in the middle
gotta divide and conquer
I wanna use wis for bot and mid
But after her skills over i needa cover middle somehow
So that drones wont leak
Hihi, how am I suppose to deal with the transforming rocks at 15-20 ๐ญ they keep getting through exu not exuing
Maybe logos on top pointing down
that's your problem, mid requires more consitent solutions
Yeah, I can deal with golems with kaltsit and yu
Logo S1 with a heal to turn the balls into casters can work
But the drones and shapeshifters are annoyinh
I need logos s3 to kill the boss
Logos S3 will run out on the 3rd middle wave if my internal math is right
Im stacked, i just had to work so i couldnt keep trying
Kal can handle top golems
you could also switch bagpipe with gladia if you want everyone, DP isn't that big of an issue me think
:v
finally you can use wlater to help Yu
and save eyja for after logos S3 ends
but realistically, 2 pullers and some air support shuts downs the middle
What ops would be good for H15-4. I donโt have many like power house ones like virtuoso, logos, wis , etc
Virtuosa S1 is very good there, actually, both for helping DPS the boss and dealing with waves.
I donโt have any necrosis
got anyone with high DPH? (damage per hit)
Iโve been using mont3r but my ops js get melted by the golems and they get overrun
You're fine in terms of dealing with mimic boss and mobs, so either A) borrow the big boss killer, B) Try something like Mlynar on buff cracks, 3) Amyia caster S3.
ray
i think its mainly my bottom lane cause i switched ray to top lane
ohh, I'm bind, didn't see ray
but then my ray also gets distracted by the trash mobs
Top Ray still gets distracted? Hmm, either help her DPS or maybe better skill timing. Cause there aren't many enemies coming from top.
if i do top lane ray i usually pair her w ifrit to kill the boss so ray wastes ammo, but then the bottom lane gets crushed while that happens
go with suzuran, skadi combo, she should just melt the problems
with bottom or top lane ray?
get Ifrit out, her attacks have DoT and if you're not using her -Res with caster combo she's not worth it. OR at least place her so that she doesn't reach the boss.
if the goal is to DPS the boss, top ray makes most sense
who should i be placing for bottom lane dps then cause thats also a problem
gothca. also is there like an ideal spot to dps the bot moving around
cause he gets picked up often
yes, near the blue button, if fact, you want to basically get it stuck near it so if stands back up, you press the button, DPS, it falls, Ray shoots and repeat until boss dead.
alright thanks for the advice. Ill try it out in a couple runs
right here
Top ray, even thou she might have a chance to get distrated by golems but atleast not all the time, and add warf then put sandbeast next to the big boss so that itll take more damage
From 100% to like 15-20% hp left
It takes 2 cycles
i put ray right here is that fine
ive killed all the enemies once except the boss cause i time dialed
i see, im using mont3r s3 so i should replace her with any medic right (assuming that u have her on s2 in that pic)
Mont3r can solo golem on top
do u kill the bot up there too?
mylnar doesnt rly deal dmg to him so ive been using mont3r to kill him
got no necrosis
Virtuosa
nope
^^
Do you use support unit?
i try not to
the bot is rly the probelm i can take care of the golems
but like the bot js wipes my ops
I can feel that mlynar can do the job against bot, try skalter or suzu just to amplify his dmg
alr
Make sure your mlynar face up so that he goes dmg on both sides 
and where should they be?
It doesn't matter who kills the middle as long as someone can. The easiest way I found is Wisadel + another dps.
I'm surprised Walter Overkill wasn't enough. Let's see... for the lower side, you actually don't need a puller, since you'll probably have a DPS unit on the upper tiles, so as long as you block them with someone and then kill the weak runners, you'll be fine.
But if your DPS is facing towards the big boss, you might wanna place Gladia on the top left, facing the blue box. Basically here. S1 is enough stall to slowly finish them off.
still cant beat this stupid stage i suck too much ๐ญ
Alternatively, if your setup is on the top, you might wanna check out this afk clear for lazy people (all auto skills or unused skills):
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hmoLYLEDZ/
congratulations!
ty ;- ;
slow and steady, I'm also kinda stuck with my lore accurate team, not having a vanguard sucks.
what can you farm in the babel event?
now we save the 100000 sanity i have here for next week
go to bot-spam, type /cnfarm
bb-s-4 cm
whats the lore accurate team that you're running?
Still experimenting with 15-20 CM cause I like the map, so far optimized down to this, but will probably remove ascalon and red.
how is it lore accurate when ||Kal'tsit is dead|| 
I can't remember if that happened during or before PRTS takedown. I could try with blaze.
I'm pretty sure it was a few stages before
and besides
||mon3tr transformed into a human form during 15-21 so that's not accurate either||
You're right ofc.
technically it would be ||ascalon, logos, blaze, rosmontis, the other ops are IS only or unreleased||
ideally, do i want the mimic to be in this area when i kill him?
bish so tanky ngl
Even with Amyia, that would still be hell. Also, I thought ascalon's entire spec ops team was there including red, but guess not?
Why there specifically? Just hug the blue button.
theres a weakening node there
probably but only ascalon has dialogue during that part but if you wanted to include sweep you could use scavenger
Yeah you can do that
Also those 2 tiles are pretty safe
Safe from the lasers I mean
Safe enough for Contrail to just block the thing midair without receiving any damage
If you have Yu and Asca raised, you can abuse them
When the thing floats, getting dragged by the cursor
Asca up for -85% Mov Speed
Dw, her skill affects aerial targets
That thing would just travel 1 tile with Asca debuff
When it finally drops to the ground, Yu S2 and teleport it back
hmmm asca yu... i would need a sustain for these two yeh??? like probably monster or ng?? or probably quercus
Yeh a Medic to heal em
hmmm.... ig that would do... acsa yu should also hold bot lane... now i need to worry top and mid lanes
There is nothing on top aside from the killgate Golem
No need to defend that
The 2 middle lanes are where the pressure at
Cool thanks
the yu + asca in bot right weakening node works... tnx

Congrats!

is there a intended way to complete h15-4
The killgate way
Wtf how do u know my strategy
You spai
how do you think i cleared h15-4 
Can someone give me some advice on how to beat h15-4 with this team
Mon3tr (Summon) might be able to kill gate it, sure.
Wdym by kill gate
@ masonma00
The community refers to something as a killgate when the rest of the waves don't spawn in because the enemy to kill to spawn them in isn't dead.
Mm and why should I do that?
I thought i needed to kill the little robot to dmg the boss
the enemy the next waves spawn on is contingent on dying is the top golem.
Abusing the kill gate makes the rest of the map a lot easier to do at your leisure.
Because now you're not trying to kill the boss, waves, and mimic machine all at once.
You're just doing the mimic machine over and over again, and doing damage to the boss, and then after that and you kill the golem, you can do the waves.
And I use logos for killing the waves ig?
How to beat??
Looks already an ez clear.
Anything else?
up to you.
Have you considered engaging with the map mechanics.
Dealing with the waves when the Mimic machine is permanently dead and isn't laser beaming your team to death sure is a lot easier. 
borrow ray
Is it actually? Can i have help with positions?
How should I use her in your opinion
mob or boss dps
S3 right?
yuh
Use Kyo's AFK guide to give you ideas.
Or everyone else in chat.
Welp kal'tsit can't kill gate it
Something with a better defense stat + a healer then. 
Mon3tr is many things.
A good defense stat isn't one of those.
I thought s1 would be enough lol

Oh tysm

Is corntail mandatory?
Who
The 4* that can fly
Corn tail ๐
Nah not needed, she is just there to delay the miniboss
Have you watched my 15-20 btw @soft parrot
Omg arf hi 
No i didn't I don't usually watch guides unless I'm really struggling with a stage for a while
Yeah so basically
You kill the miniboss super fast and draw the first blood before the Golems spawn
And when the Golems spawn, stall one of them
Using Medic+Defender
The entire battlefield will be empty so you can focus all your resources on the miniboss and the boss
Take your time to kill them
Watch that 15-20 video for reference on how killgate works
H15-4 has a killgate that triggered the same way too
Read that bit #strategy message
Scroll down a bit
Okay, tysm arf you're the best 
Abusing killgate is one of the staple techniques btw, you should master it
Like in RS-EX-8 here #strategy message
Okay
I think I'll wait till the next login so I can farm chips to e1 corntail
Otherwise everyone else dies
Also should I S3M3 mon3tr for this clear?
She doesn't do enough dmg like in your video
in the hard mode of 15 20, how do i kill the golems so they dont AOE splash everything to death
Sure. Both her S2 and S3 will be used anyway
Also it doesnt have to be Mon3tr
In my clear I used Lappcaster+Yu
Iirc Logos can also solo handle it
I used kal'tsit n ente but they didn't do enough dmg sadly
Oh should I use yu then?
I still underestimate how much dmg he does with s2
If you have Asca, you can Asca+Yu that thing and keep looping it back to its previous position
Asca has -85% Mov Speed that also affects aerial targets, when the miniboss is about to be dragged by the cursor, simply activate Asca skill
It will only travel 1 tile
When it drops to the ground, Yu S2 and teleport it back
It will be stuck there forever
And you can use someone like Virtuosa or Castermiya S3M3 to chip the big boss
I don't have ascalon sadly
I have horn and Schwarz I thought that's better both have S3M3
ig Ethan isn't going to work either
Yeah no, Ethan cant bind Aerial
I'll have to wait to get chips for corntail ig
She's pretty dam good
Don't have either ๐ญ
I'd have loved to offrate her but instead I got pretty mid 6* like Saileach
Btw is this as good?
Buf if you abuse killgate, you dont have that much time to burst the boss because
Once the miniboss travels to the upper side
It will just kill your Defender, the one stalling the Golem
Also for some reason the waves still spawn after I kill the miniboss even tho I'm stalling the golem
You must kill the miniboss before the Golems spawn
Oh dam that's pretty hard then

Sure
I suggest you borrow Virtuosa
For boss duty
She is really great for the boss
The big one I mean
But I'm borrowing wis like in your vid
I wouldnt borrow Wis, you can substitute her
Like Virtuosa can handle bottom lane and perform her boss duty
So you just need to plop someone to help with the top midlane
And you are good
Plop her on blue circle facing down
S1 better imo
S1 can do 3x Necrosis Burst on the boss
Thats plenty of damage
Okay
How to h15-4 easily?
Run 13 meta units
Have you tried turning PRTS on and off?
8 clears ez
if you run non afk lanes can cut couple units ez
ray instead of surtr might cut a unit too

Time to m3 virt to carbon copy this 
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Hi Suraj
Early wolves
hiii
I can't block everything cuz I don't get enough DP
good morning flanyr
Stage doesn't have passive DP gen
got Myrtle?
Yes
Cant you use 1 block charger vanguard to block and kill dogs fast enough + full DP refund on first retreat?
id swap pinecone for Myrtle tbh
2 cycle but 1 cycle taste ๐
I am not borrowing.
U are not farming exp, wasted sanity






