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acoustic slate
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Ril?

full terrace
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Lemme double check

acoustic slate
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Never would have guessed

wary shuttle
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Im pretty sure injury doesnt count but the actual elemental DOT does

acoustic slate
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Thatโ€™s what I would suspectJES_think

spring chasm
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@full terrace

full terrace
acoustic slate
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wtf impatient supah ReallyMad

full terrace
acoustic slate
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Damn thatโ€™s surprising

full terrace
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Virtuosa can do 3 Necrosis Burst S1 yea

vocal leaf
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isnโ€™t s3 better in this case because she stop attacking?

full terrace
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Thats why I thought its better to assign Virtuosa on boss duty

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S3 prob works too yea

acoustic slate
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She should only need 2 s1 which would do a bit of damage. Though with module sheโ€™ll do good damage on s3

full terrace
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Yeah what Space said

wary shuttle
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probably, but it comes down to if S3 can pull off an extra burst or not

full terrace
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I think S1 sends the boss into Burst mode faster than S3

wary shuttle
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otherwise S1 probably wins out tbh

dusky herald
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Uh I kinda want to ask some strat for h15 4

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If there's one

vocal leaf
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ceobe combo for one cycle SoraWow

dusky herald
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I can show my ops but I think might lack dps but thats prob just me

dusky herald
full terrace
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So urm, I would suggest you abuse the killgate, so that you dont need to worry about the etc enemies

vocal leaf
waxen dagger
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probably not Mumu, and you need a boss DPS too

celest bluff
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did we already talk about how virtousa s2 works?

waxen dagger
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I'm not sure where you plan to use Logos but he can probably DPS the boss if there's an Ifrit on it too

full terrace
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Nah not S2. S2 you are making other units do Necrosis Injury, but the thing is, that unit does "normal attacks" which fills the boss's SP faster. Virtuosa is great because she doesnt do normal attacks

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If you use S2 you probably wont get 3 Bursts

celest bluff
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right

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the sp

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shit

waxen dagger
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ideally you don't wanna take too long to kill the boss, both because it just fails you after 7 minutes, and because the mimic gets stronger each time it revives

full terrace
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Miniboss is not a big threat if you have the burst, the only problem with that is to keep the miniboss in your units attack range

vocal leaf
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ceobe combo kills in 10 seconds MudrockNaruhodo

dusky herald
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ill try figuring out something for now tho

vocal leaf
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you can show your ops then, virtuosa can work alone afaik, ceobe wants ifrit

full terrace
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Surtr also helps if you have her

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She has res shred and she doesnt have high hit count

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Perfect for the boss

vocal leaf
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surtr + ifrit?

full terrace
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I havent really tried that technology

dusky herald
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Something like this

waxen dagger
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probably works, boss goes from like 55 res to like 20-30ish with Ifrit (accounting for Surtr's res ignore)? the extra damage is probably worth Ifrit's extra attacks, she doesn't attack fast anyways

dusky herald
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There are more but they're the rest of 4* and 5* basically

vocal leaf
full terrace
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Surtr+Ifrit ๐Ÿ˜‚

lilac steppe
full terrace
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Okay you can abuse the killgate. Cuora+Shining on Golem stall duty up there. Mon3tr with a bit of help can draw the first blood on miniboss bottom right, and you borrow Virtuosa for boss duty.

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The rest of your resources, use them to lanehold and burst the miniboss.

vocal leaf
full terrace
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I have Surtr but my friend list is full ๐Ÿ˜

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I blame Icebreaker Games

vocal leaf
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my surtr e0 FiaDed

waxen dagger
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I have Surtr and Ifrit, no Surtr mod though

dusky herald
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Aight thanks a lot ill try it out RosThumbsUp

full terrace
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Best of luck there

waxen dagger
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I personally went with Ray + Warf + Suzuran, that one cycles the boss too

vocal leaf
full terrace
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Yeah that looks good

waxen dagger
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quick test, no mod Surtr + Ifrit + Ela mines does this much in one cycle

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so mod3 Surtr + Ifrit probably kills in two cycles?

vocal leaf
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yeah itโ€™s the same with ceobe, so they all need saria s3 for one cycle

spring chasm
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That stupid crab deals so fucking much ๐Ÿ˜ญ

jovial rose
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Thx bro, Iโ€™m cleared it now but I respect those micromanaging skills

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It was just that stage had so much unique mechanics especially stalling

novel moth
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can someone help me with H15-4?

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Im lacking a lot of the limited characters I see in vids and im bad at the gem, so idk what to do ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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yesterday I tried all afternoon with diff strats and couldnt do it

novel moth
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lemme log in

earnest bobcat
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There's no helping you without an idea of what's at your disposal.

novel moth
earnest bobcat
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And now we wait for someone better than me to get into chat. musawhistle

novel moth
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i was running this, clearing the map with w'alter while setting up logos s3 with ifrit to dmg the big boss and then using mon3tr to mess up the boss, but idk what to do after that cuz i needa 2 cycle it and i kent ๐Ÿ™

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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im thinkin bout a diff strat

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lemme see how i do dis

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how do you the killgate thing? i suppose is that no mob spawns after like 13 kills while you keep the golem alive?

earnest bobcat
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I have no clue, I suck at the game. musawhistle

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Anyways, @novel moth have you considered teleporting the thing to right under the blue objective point in the middle so that you repeatedly hit the enemy with a fuck ton of stuff in the same location? @novel moth liliderp

novel moth
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teleport who with what

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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with what

earnest bobcat
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The thing you need to beat up to open the actual boss.

novel moth
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and you better not say shu

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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ah

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ok, so you mean i teleport it to yu and then down it once

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do u get the skill back before it moves again?

earnest bobcat
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Multiple times even. MiaHehe the thing gets a lot more manageable if you can cluster several DPSes at the same place and have them all do concentrated fire + get healing from stuff like Mon3tr.

novel moth
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and i use logos and ifrit to dps the bos i guess, and then wis where you have it to clear the mid section and kaltsit to hold the lane on top (i got no virtuosa)

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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i would need wis to look left tho

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cuz then who'd hold the bottom

earnest bobcat
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Ehh? I had mine look up.

novel moth
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didya clear it?

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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wanna hop on vc xd?

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idk if i got the mental to do this anymore

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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oki

leaden sierra
earnest bobcat
leaden sierra
earnest bobcat
earnest bobcat
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Which is abusing Yu S2 to make the mimic machine a lot easier to repeatedly kill. NinianSip

leaden sierra
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I mean, they shouldn't be struggling with that comp, so I'll let them suffer, but if you really wanna know, there's a super easy cheeze there.

novel moth
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that doesnt work for me, if i pull the mimic into that corner it just throws the big ball and kills all my units

leaden sierra
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wait so your problem is the mimic or is it the boss?

novel moth
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i can down the mimic once with a certain method but after its up again i just leak and my characters die

leaden sierra
novel moth
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yeah

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how could i use her?

leaden sierra
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skill 1

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she solos them

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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solos who?

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the mimic or the mobs

leaden sierra
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mimic

novel moth
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doesnt the hand just take it away anyway?

leaden sierra
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wait sry, by mimic you meant the mini boss, not the transforming mobs

novel moth
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yeah, the mini boss

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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how do you deal with the mid section, Lucas?

leaden sierra
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yeah, I don't look at names lol

novel moth
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im having such a hard time with this map ;- ;

leaden sierra
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So basically, if your issue is the mimic or the boss

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cause you have a timer

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then what you can do is focus all your units on the boss

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to do that, you can use a killgate

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yeah, I'm advocating sweat strats

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1s, brb

earnest bobcat
novel moth
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ReedBean i dont understando

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what is kill gate

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why are my strats sweating

leaden sierra
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basically, the enemies spawn in waves

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if you don't kill an enemy, the rest of the wave doesn't spawn

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we call that a kill gate

earnest bobcat
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Anyways, gimme a few secs to record a video, I feel like being more helpful.

leaden sierra
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I was too lazy to record so I'm stealing from other people

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see that golem at the top, with 12/37 count. You can just put a healing defender on his way, and you just don't kill him.

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The rest of the wave won't spawn, and you can focus everyone on the boss.

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if you still struggling you can ofc look up a guide, but this is the main trick

novel moth
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saria s1 it is.

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lemme see how i do this

leaden sierra
pearl compass
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Don't forget that you need to drop the boss BEFORE Golems comes in the map.

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Or magic won't work.

leaden sierra
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omg, I forgot to tell them that. Ty Bengal

earnest bobcat
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Excuse me as I bang my head on a wall for a few seconds.

full terrace
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I just did something fun. Asca + Yu, they made the miniboss a complete toy. When the cursor is there to drag it, Asca up for -85% Mov Speed reduction, it will travel 1 tile only. When it drops down the ground, Yu S2 teleport it back and kill with Burn Burst

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Rinse and repeat the miniboss wont go anywhere

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Asca debuff affecting aerial targets is a cheat

leaden sierra
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ascalon 20 sp cycle go use case

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but if you go at the big guy too fast, won't it be a problem? Someone with Surtr speed should be enough tho

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Ascalon still needs a healer, so 3 ops, while with Rey, you can put her somewhere safe and permabind it when it wakes up. She'll also help DPS. Although she needs 30 sp, so idk. Time to test.

novel moth
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we might have this, bois

novel moth
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if i kill the boss

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does the time limit end?

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like, i no longer fail the stage?

pearl compass
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Yes

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You'll be free to end the stage whenever you like.

full terrace
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Babel rerun announced

fierce tendon
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Ex 8 DocSmile

full terrace
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BB-S-4 more like

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@south spindle you better read the lore

cinder pike
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does yuu S2 work against prts?

earnest bobcat
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The one that moves, yes.

leaden sierra
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The worst part will be figuring out where the chain will move after using mon3tr S3 and ulpi S3.

cinder pike
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idk what that means

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like I assume that the 4x6 monster is not going to be able to be pulled

leaden sierra
south spindle
cinder pike
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but do you mean the sub boss has phases where he is pullable

earnest bobcat
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Weight 6. CeciliaHmm

cinder pike
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pullable in this context is yuu bs s2

earnest bobcat
full terrace
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I played around with Ulpi before

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As long as you uh..

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Deploy Gladiia for example

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Right before Ulpi

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And Ulpi as last deployed

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He will just keep creating the chain with Gladiia

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When you activate/deactivate his skill he'd just get chained to Gladiia

leaden sierra
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So I can place the M3 crystal in "dangerous tiles" and she'll hop on them if there is a friend nearby to make the chain...

full terrace
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Yep she will make the chain

leaden sierra
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and then make a new chain on return

full terrace
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Bro Mon3tr gonna kill this event, I feel like

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Assassins' dodge means nothing to True Damage

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This is gonna be something

leaden sierra
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But they have Clownslayer dodge SkadiDaijoubu

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well basically, the hp threshold swich thing...

full terrace
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Are you sure its not Andoain dodge

leaden sierra
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wait, no I meant the tile jump

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not the dodge dodge

full terrace
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Ah tile jump should be no issue ๐Ÿ˜

leaden sierra
full terrace
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Like Mon3tr's range is 3x3

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You come from below her

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Dash

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Now you are above her

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Still within 3x3 range

leaden sierra
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still needs like 7-8 hits to kill, need a defender behind

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But yeah, she'll eat that for breakfast

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24,000/2270= 10 hits or 11 with no help, still very good, they're tanky after all.

full terrace
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I'm more worried about the cycles

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Unless you bring Suzuran or Asca

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And slows everything down to buy time for her to recharge

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Regardless, Low-End clear is gonna be a nightmare

leaden sierra
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At least for BB-S-4, you gotta rotate or something, the good thing is, she can switch between lanes. And that stages has a nasty wave at the end to the far left box.

earnest bobcat
full terrace
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Sure

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BB-S-4 and OR-S-3 are the hardest dps check event/side story stages in the game

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And the Sakiko event in the future

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SS-EX-8 I believe

leaden sierra
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Oh, Sakio farming boss stage looked pretty bad as it is. Suffering is coming alongside highschool girls.

sick flare
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I'm so interested to see how BB S stages go for me, because I feel like I am starting to do story stages pretty comfortably now

full terrace
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If you have built squad it's fairly easy

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If your dps is lacking, thats a big problem

narrow pendant
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Please, bb was kinda hard before
But its year later and we have the busted ops now
It will be a breeze glueless

sick flare
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DPS is definitely where I lack the most, but everything else is pretty solid

leaden sierra
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babel is before exu right?

full terrace
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Fyi, Kyo used 2x 6 Star on both BB-S-4 and OR-S-3 Low-End, he told you to "come back next year" in one video, and said "disgusting disgusting" in the other ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Also chisha mentioned that FSLO score for both stages are 12

narrow pendant
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4 days

earnest bobcat
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My account was newer back last year.

earnest bobcat
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Well, it's taken several leaps in effectiveness.

leaden sierra
sick flare
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I did OR-S-3 a few months back but I had to rely on the forbidden strategy of using two pullers since I didn't have as much DPS at that point

narrow pendant
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I didnt find bb too difficult back then
But i so dont wanna replay all the stages

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Man

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Remember when i streamed doing S stages last year

elder flume
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oh did they patch Yu moving big PRTS

pearl compass
cinder pike
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what are people using to kill prts? H stages

pearl compass
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Ah

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Surtr+Ray

cinder pike
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tried Ceobe hyper buff, but doesn't look amazing tbh

full terrace
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Ceobe hyperbuff 1 cycle

pearl compass
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Drop Ela mine to fasten the process

full terrace
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Ifrit S3, Suzuran S3, Saria S3

elder flume
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havent touched chap 15 so wouldnt know
just that i have things to test e.g. dp blocker casters and missiles can be nullified by changing map resolution n perspectives

cinder pike
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ceobe + warf + skalter S3 + ela mines+ saria S3

sick flare
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I've been too busy with homework to have the mental energy to try H15-4 yet, but would true damage work there? I've got Mon3tr and Kaltsit

full terrace
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Yeah.. not like that

cinder pike
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I can do ifrit

full terrace
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Must be ranged dps

sick flare
full terrace
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Surtr is an exception, she can hit 3 tiles away

pearl compass
cinder pike
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but I am going to run S3 to kill mini-trs

full terrace
cinder pike
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I'll try a 2 cycle

full terrace
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Surtr works too for the Viviana version

cinder pike
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just trying to decide if laptop will be nice for this stage for the other enemies

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middle lane is abit of pita

sick flare
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I do have Ifrit, Mon3tr, and Vivi so maybe I can make something like that work

cinder pike
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Thanks I 2 cycled it

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It is evil to put Medal under H-15-4

narrow pendant
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Every chapter has medal under h stages

cinder pike
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yeah I guess it wasn't said that you had to get it during the event duration

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look at this limited time reward

narrow pendant
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Uh..

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Thats permanent

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Medals and the simulation reward track are perm

full terrace
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Yeah Medals can be gotten anytime

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And Event Shop currency can be farmed at Supply Stages or something

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Thats why I didnt wanna bother to make guides for H stages ๐Ÿ˜

cinder pike
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oh this is the off-board checklist

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which I think can only be gotten during the event

serene hornet
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Do we have h15-4 low end clear yet?

full terrace
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There are some out there

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But I wouldnt say it's much of a Low-End

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Because 2x 6 Star

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H stages are a bunch of dps check

light shard
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Some of the off-board missions have a timer on them and some don't, so I would expect the ones without to be permanent

prisma ledge
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Possible to beat SSS Barren Beasts Concert Hall with Goldenglow? I don't have Wisadel so I cant make use of the exclusive EC unit with sniper specialty.

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I am considering Aegirillian Scope for Ulpi Gladia...

full terrace
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The device is not used like that, you seem very confused

prisma ledge
full terrace
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Any high ground carry will be fine, you still use the Sniper device

prisma ledge
full terrace
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Actually

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Exusiai might be best for that tower

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You want unit with high hit count

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For the Gramaphone

prisma ledge
leaden sierra
prisma ledge
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Grreyy Alter mayhaps...

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Exusiai does have fast attack speed tho. I wanted wide range :(

prisma ledge
leaden sierra
full terrace
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You know how the devices work right? The "equipment" gives you buff when an operator belonging to a certain class is stacked

prisma ledge
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Ye

full terrace
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So for example, Sniper equipment gives 40 Aspd you you stack it

scarlet fulcrum
prisma ledge
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I was thinking of 3 low cost snipers to quickly set it up

full terrace
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With the device, you get not only 40 aspd, but also 200 atk and 100 def ignore

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So your play is

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Stack 5 Snipers

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And then stack your carry unit

prisma ledge
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Yea

leaden sierra
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Defenders will be a pain to setup, the boss has 3k attack without buffs, so I wouldn't recommend it. Also, attack interval is faster than mudrock shield, so tldr, he'll steamroll her.

prisma ledge
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Rip. Ulpi I suppose. A carry unit like Exusiai and Ulpi dmg sponge then?

full terrace
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And btw I wouldnt recommend Goldenglow

prisma ledge
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Oh Revive a Downed Operator.

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Aight then

full terrace
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Your ratio should be 12:8

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12 "equipment units"

prisma ledge
full terrace
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And 8 "main units"

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Main units as in, the carry units

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For the ground units you dont need to stack equipment on them

prisma ledge
full terrace
full terrace
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The boss is almost unkillable

cedar needle
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Im still gonna shill Thorns alt as the best op to use vs that SSS boss better_eyes

full terrace
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But

prisma ledge
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I dont have Wisadel s1 so ๐Ÿ’€

full terrace
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Whenever you deal dmg to the Gramaphone, the boss takes True Damage

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So you want to hit the Gramaphone quick

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To deal dmg to the boss

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Now the thing is, Goldenglow's drones prioritize

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Enemies closer to your blue box

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And since the boss position will be closer to your blue box than the Gramaphone

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Goldenglow's drones will just stick to the boss all the way

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Dealing 0 damage

prisma ledge
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Lmfao rip

full terrace
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Yeah

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Lappcaster is different

prisma ledge
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Lemme see who has high hitcount in my current roster

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Other than GG

full terrace
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Her drones prioritize "closer enemies" to herself

prisma ledge
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Exusiai is one with attack speed

full terrace
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So if you position her closer to the Gramaphone

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All the drones will swarm the Gramaphone

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And the boss takes massive damage

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Thats why I recommend Exu coz she has high hit count

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And with the 5x Sniper equipment

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She does decent damage

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Gramaphone will take a lot of damage from her and so does the boss

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Oh btw for your "12 equipment units", in this case 12x Sniper

prisma ledge
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๐Ÿ‘

full terrace
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Pick the cheapest ones

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Like sort by Deployment Cost

prisma ledge
full terrace
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And pick the cheapest ones

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So that you can stack faster

prisma ledge
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Aight heres what I got so far for the SSS Concert Hall normal mode

full terrace
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Yeah that looks good

prisma ledge
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I use GG S3 or GG S2?

full terrace
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Krooster can also help with the Gramaphone if needed

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And Ulpi+Glad can stall the boss

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And buy you time to dps the Gramaphone

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Goldenglow S3 on the way to the boss stage

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But once you are there, use S2

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You use S3 her drones will just stick themselves to the boss

prisma ledge
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Ohhhh cheers

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Makes sense now

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I start now then

full terrace
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Btw for Normal Mode there is a secret Medal

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Best of luck there

prisma ledge
full terrace
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Condition is that, you never fail a stage

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All the way to the boss stage

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For the Secret Medal I mean

prisma ledge
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Ahh, seems like no problem then

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Hopefully*

full terrace
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Yeah its not hard dw

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You'll get it

halcyon adder
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So ray warf ela can almost on cycle the prts

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Ray strong

full terrace
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Yeah Ray is good for it, high dph, low hit count

halcyon adder
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Underated unit

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Maybe scwartz can do it too

full terrace
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Overrated you mean ๐Ÿ˜

halcyon adder
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Anyone with schwartz y mod?

pearl compass
halcyon adder
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U have friend slots open?

pearl compass
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Mine is full.

halcyon adder
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It's ok I will raise mine

pure belfry
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Here's what I got @south spindle

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With def

south spindle
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looks about right

pure belfry
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Pot 0

south spindle
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starting 70K and ending 130K for P1 for me

pure belfry
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Hmm

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There's a couple assumptions I made I'm not sure are correct

south spindle
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I mean the curve looks good enough

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Oh

smoky halo
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did u add trust

south spindle
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Did you randomize or use formula

pure belfry
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Just formula

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So I assumed talent2 lightning benefits from s2 atk buff immediately

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But that shouldn't make a huge difference

smoky halo
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yeah it does

pure belfry
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Yea as long as the curve looks good that's what matters

smoky halo
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atk buff before strike

pure belfry
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Cool. Yea that's what I thought based on how other skills work

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And I assume module raises base atk before any multipliers?

smoky halo
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yep

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it does

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same with trust and pot

pure belfry
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Nice

pure belfry
south spindle
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Its a seperate thing ya

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I kind of averaged out the tile to atk buff

pure belfry
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Lightning every 1s but attacks every 1.2s

south spindle
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Ye

pure belfry
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That was a bit annoying

south spindle
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Uh actually nvm I didn't average, instead

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helper function to calculate the average tiles struck by the time the nth attack goes off

pure belfry
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Ok yea same

south spindle
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ye ik 0 is invalid

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just looks ugly

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Just ur total damage seems a little different

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but close enough

pure belfry
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Yea I wonder why

smoky halo
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:joyplush:

pure belfry
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Huh. Ok I just trusted the skill description lol

smoky halo
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yeah they do this to reduce the variance

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they prevent u from getting too lucky/unlucky by implementing this system

pure belfry
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Anyway, the tldr is you want to have at least 6 tiles in her range

prisma ledge
smoky halo
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yeah they made it 31 frames

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for some reason

prisma ledge
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I did pass after like 3rd attempt. Had to rethink cuz those annoying flute blowers are oneshotting my units bruh

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Might try again to see if I can do it in one go

south spindle
limpid ore
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it's somewhat similars to wis revenant

south spindle
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๐Ÿ˜”

pure belfry
full terrace
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Yeah you'd want Light for it

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Or @willow sun

south spindle
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Errr a little busy atm

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And would have to reread entire kit

full terrace
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Light is in the middle of a date with his boyfriend Theacc

south spindle
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you can check these formulas if feeling extra unemployed

pure belfry
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Bet

smoky halo
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oh wait u did x1.13 to numlightnings too

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yeah thats fine

pure belfry
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360 + 30 trust + 42 mod yea

pure belfry
south spindle
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erm talent 2 damage is like 1.5K or something it seems i dont even know if correct

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it waso n the next line then i kind of omitted it because i actually did these calcs like minutes of Leizi2 release

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Didn't test when talent 2 attack gets captured or smth confusing like that

pure belfry
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Yea that's the difference then

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At least most of it

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It's 2.7k at high end

south spindle
#

Yeah

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I averaged to

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1.5K

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and called it

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but then was like errr this is suspicious

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i see a 0 in my numbers at the bottom negating it out

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๐Ÿฅน

pure belfry
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Haha

sly drift
void terrace
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Damn

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H15-4

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Was scuffed as hell

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Brute forced it with global warming + monst3r buff

south spindle
#

That might be opposite of brute forcing

void terrace
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Literally just stall

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And spam heal till all cooldowns come back

south spindle
#

I mean actually it worked

void terrace
#

Brainless strat

south spindle
#

So it is brute force

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Nvm

#

You are correct

void terrace
#

The issue is timing the burst to kill the wave

south spindle
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Just the problem is they hit so often with the globals and even the burn proc its suspicious

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But as long asy ou got it

void terrace
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And still have time to damage prts

narrow pendant
#

Something something easy stage

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Just ray sleep

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๐Ÿฅฑ

void terrace
#

I fixed that with surtr....

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Can ray one cycle prts?

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With warfrain?

narrow pendant
#

No

void terrace
#

Even with warf?

narrow pendant
#

Still no

void terrace
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Or maybe shamare

narrow pendant
#

I did add shamare

narrow pendant
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Cleared it for fun using different shit

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Ray warf shamare

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Ceobe too

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๐Ÿฅน

fierce tendon
#

Using Ray + warf against prts is one good way when theres no melee tile

topaz tapir
#

How tf

pearl compass
fierce tendon
#

Then replace them with gud guards or defenders then start setting up

topaz tapir
#

wai so put Spot in Lapplands Spot then retreat and put Lappalnd last?

full stream
topaz tapir
full stream
topaz tapir
full stream
topaz tapir
full stream
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the wraiths will stop coming after second wraith leader

topaz tapir
#

Leader what

I'm so confused rn but I beat it anyways

full stream
fierce tendon
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Or big helmet

topaz tapir
full stream
fierce tendon
#

Thorns s3 is such a good shit too have early game

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Back the when i struggled on anni 2

full stream
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if u knew the shaw trick they were only two real threats red weeb/caster x formation

fierce tendon
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Red weeb was a formidable foe till cc beta

dense hawk
#

The answer was
JUST SURTR IT

pearl compass
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YEEEEEEEEE

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NEGATIVE IQ SQUAD, ONWARDS

serene hornet
#

If anyone have any clue as to how i can beat h15-4, much appreciated

verbal harness
#

Damn they really made h15 4 that hard.. I am also struggling right now

lapis hornet
#

same

noble pewter
fierce tendon
#

Mont3r can solo top

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Ray + warf when machine down

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Against the main boss

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Then the rest is up to you since its bot lane has tons of enemies

scarlet fulcrum
#

Necrass, gladiia, yu, ceobe, virtuosa, mon3tr. U are set

lapis igloo
#

uhh what should I use to kill the boss

dapper hedge
#

What boss, what stage

pearl compass
lapis igloo
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oh I forgot to mention that oops

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I have very low attention span

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sowwy

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H15-4

full stream
sly drift
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Add warfarin too and you literally can one cycle it.

twin sedge
#

did i miss time logos s3? or was it smth else cuz i thought that i did it right

glass monolith
#

Well with bottom projectiles already leaving slowness field before skill was anywhere near ending to delete them is answer enough HellaKek

sly drift
#

On this case. Your logos dies before he complete the cycle

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The result you've done there is you practically edging 10 balls in front of Logos and then let it out at once

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Effectively erasing all your operators lmao.

twin sedge
#

so i effectively have to pre-fire his skill

sly drift
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Yea.. time it Just enough to slow down all 10 waves of balls.

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Anyway you unintentionally made the best meme on that stage

narrow pendant
twin sedge
narrow pendant
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No

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Im making that last few seconds a clip

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That instant smash thru was glorius

twin sedge
#

I hate that the destruction had so much anticipation

narrow pendant
#

Like a slingshot

twin sedge
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drawing a bow

narrow pendant
#

But ye, u need to active his s3 bit sooner

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And that also reminded me i still have not done that stage

narrow pendant
pearl compass
twin sedge
#

atleast make it become popular so my failure becomes a success (ngl i can't stop laughing at it either)

pearl compass
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Should have pressed little more late.

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Or earlier

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Earlier is correct I guess.

unkempt mirage
#

@full stream no tile for mon3 in H-4 ReedBean

full stream
unkempt mirage
full stream
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Dph=damage per hit and u know she has 3k def so it needs to be high

narrow pendant
#

Wis is dookie for him

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Or it

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Idfk

full stream
#

Wis can take the mid side pretty well but people usually used something else to kill the boss

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Beside wis

unkempt mirage
#

My choice is naran or typhon. I'm probably not cut out for this yet

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Is arts an option?

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Maybe virtuosa, I heard she's True

full stream
unkempt mirage
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Idk if it's normal for boss to be dealt by necrosis ReedBean

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Oh cool

full stream
#

Did u know 4* niche use haze to solo the bossDocSmile

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Something something SkadiDaijoubu

unkempt mirage
unkempt mirage
limpid ore
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physical, arts, true, elemental

hasty bluff
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Pair with logos tho ReedBean

unkempt mirage
full stream
#

trial and error

unkempt mirage
waxen dagger
rugged hearth
waxen dagger
narrow pendant
#

Why are u even answering shit from 3 hours ago

waxen dagger
#

yes

errant hawk
#

does anybody have any plans for 6-11

narrow pendant
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Idk, i like to visit 7-11 more

errant hawk
#

this is perhaps the first time i get so completly overrun before the midpoint of the level i have no clue what to do

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This is what i am using

elfin mango
#

mind screenshotting the stage?

wintry gulch
#

Itโ€™s one of the difficulty jumps

elfin mango
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oh i remember that stage

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if youโ€™re okay with support units, wisadel lol

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if not, i can help in a few min

wintry gulch
#

I am not the one asking for help

elfin mango
#

it wasnโ€™t to you

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sorry if that wasnโ€™t clear

wintry gulch
#

Ye itโ€™s fine lol

@errant hawk use max lvl voucher on tequila, use Wisadel if you want to cheese it or follow kyo/eckogen low rarity clear if you donโ€™t

errant hawk
#

i see will do

frail quartz
#

any advice on layouts/supports to bring if needed? I've tried setting people on the anti-air runes, but they usually get nuked too quick by the shooter drones to really do anything. stage is pr-b-2

glass monolith
#

Kill drones from bottom ranged tiles or deploy gravel or something else for drones to shoot right after sniper on anti-drone rune

plucky grove
#

yea put ops on the bottom ranged tiles, im not sure if e1 is enough, but for my auto my ranged units kill the single damage-dealing drone before they die, and they can still hit the rest of the drones

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putting ops on the bottom tiles also makes it take longer for the big drone to enter their range, so it will probably die before it reaches your ops (and also at that point youd have enough dp to deploy healers)

frail quartz
#

Okay, that makes sense. my blue poison is not doing aaaaanything to these drones so im just gonna run with e2 amiya on one side and support on another and pray

plucky grove
#

oh yea your blue poison is probably getting screwed by the def increaser drone

frail quartz
#

That was what I had assumed, yeah. I guess casters will be effective, and then I can put her in an anti air tile once I have more units down.

plucky grove
#

have you tried blue poison skill 1 btw, since it gets activated earlier she might be able to kill the drone fast enough

frail quartz
#

ohhhhh that's a good point.... I'll try that in a bit.

foggy mural
#

Hi, can someone help me to make a team for annihilation?

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This is what i have

fringe solstice
foggy mural
sick flare
# foggy mural Well... Every that is active right now? It seems that its going to be gone in 2 ...

those ones that are going away are the annihilation simulations, AKA the old rotating annihilations (our current rotating is called Kurfurstenplatz). They won't go away permanently, they just change which ones are available every so often.

Each one is a little different, so you can try looking at guides on Youtube to see what operators they guidemaker used, and whether you could swap some of them out for your own operators.

In general though, you're going to want Vulpisfoglia + Elysium (or Myrtle) for DP generation, Necrass as your best DPS, and some mix of medics, blockers, snipers, other DPS, etc. depending on the particular Annihilation mission.

glass monolith
fringe solstice
novel moth
#

So, I defeated the boss, now my problem is im leaking mobs after

leaden sierra
novel moth
#

Yeah

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I can defeat the boss now, but idk how to place my units to finish the resr

leaden sierra
#

after you beat it it is more of the same wave with golems at the top and casters, machines, golems at the bottom

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and runners and drones in the middle

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gotta divide and conquer

novel moth
#

I wanna use wis for bot and mid

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But after her skills over i needa cover middle somehow

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So that drones wont leak

kindred stirrup
#

Hihi, how am I suppose to deal with the transforming rocks at 15-20 ๐Ÿ˜ญ they keep getting through exu not exuing

novel moth
#

Maybe logos on top pointing down

leaden sierra
#

that's your problem, mid requires more consitent solutions

novel moth
#

Yeah, I can deal with golems with kaltsit and yu

leaden sierra
novel moth
#

But the drones and shapeshifters are annoyinh

novel moth
leaden sierra
#

Logos S3 will run out on the 3rd middle wave if my internal math is right

novel moth
#

Im stacked, i just had to work so i couldnt keep trying

leaden sierra
#

but you're overthinking

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isn't there a slot for gladia?

novel moth
#

Most certainly

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Could probably get rid of eyja or surtr

leaden sierra
novel moth
#

And yu + healer bottom

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Yep

leaden sierra
#

you could also switch bagpipe with gladia if you want everyone, DP isn't that big of an issue me think

novel moth
#

:v

leaden sierra
#

finally you can use wlater to help Yu

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and save eyja for after logos S3 ends

#

but realistically, 2 pullers and some air support shuts downs the middle

craggy fable
#

What ops would be good for H15-4. I donโ€™t have many like power house ones like virtuoso, logos, wis , etc

leaden sierra
craggy fable
leaden sierra
craggy fable
#

Iโ€™ve been using mont3r but my ops js get melted by the golems and they get overrun

leaden sierra
# craggy fable

You're fine in terms of dealing with mimic boss and mobs, so either A) borrow the big boss killer, B) Try something like Mlynar on buff cracks, 3) Amyia caster S3.

fringe solstice
craggy fable
leaden sierra
#

ohh, I'm bind, didn't see ray

craggy fable
#

but then my ray also gets distracted by the trash mobs

leaden sierra
craggy fable
leaden sierra
#

go with suzuran, skadi combo, she should just melt the problems

craggy fable
leaden sierra
leaden sierra
craggy fable
leaden sierra
#

mlynar? Mon3tr?

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anything works

craggy fable
#

gothca. also is there like an ideal spot to dps the bot moving around

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cause he gets picked up often

leaden sierra
#

yes, near the blue button, if fact, you want to basically get it stuck near it so if stands back up, you press the button, DPS, it falls, Ray shoots and repeat until boss dead.

craggy fable
fierce tendon
# craggy fable with bottom or top lane ray?

Top ray, even thou she might have a chance to get distrated by golems but atleast not all the time, and add warf then put sandbeast next to the big boss so that itll take more damage

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From 100% to like 15-20% hp left

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It takes 2 cycles

craggy fable
#

ive killed all the enemies once except the boss cause i time dialed

fierce tendon
#

Example of ray position i did

craggy fable
# fierce tendon Yes

i see, im using mont3r s3 so i should replace her with any medic right (assuming that u have her on s2 in that pic)

fierce tendon
craggy fable
fierce tendon
#

The mimic machine? I killed the bot on like bot lane

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Using logos

craggy fable
craggy fable
fierce tendon
craggy fable
#

nope

craggy fable
fierce tendon
#

Do you use support unit?

craggy fable
#

i try not to

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the bot is rly the probelm i can take care of the golems

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but like the bot js wipes my ops

fierce tendon
#

I can feel that mlynar can do the job against bot, try skalter or suzu just to amplify his dmg

craggy fable
#

alr

fierce tendon
novel moth
fringe solstice
leaden sierra
# novel moth and where should they be?

I'm surprised Walter Overkill wasn't enough. Let's see... for the lower side, you actually don't need a puller, since you'll probably have a DPS unit on the upper tiles, so as long as you block them with someone and then kill the weak runners, you'll be fine.

But if your DPS is facing towards the big boss, you might wanna place Gladia on the top left, facing the blue box. Basically here. S1 is enough stall to slowly finish them off.

craggy fable
#

still cant beat this stupid stage i suck too much ๐Ÿ˜ญ

leaden sierra
leaden sierra
novel moth
#

ty ;- ;

leaden sierra
#

slow and steady, I'm also kinda stuck with my lore accurate team, not having a vanguard sucks.

novel moth
#

what can you farm in the babel event?

#

now we save the 100000 sanity i have here for next week

leaden sierra
#

go to bot-spam, type /cnfarm

wary shuttle
elfin mango
leaden sierra
uncut ferry
leaden sierra
uncut ferry
#

I'm pretty sure it was a few stages before

#

and besides

#

||mon3tr transformed into a human form during 15-21 so that's not accurate either||

leaden sierra
#

You're right ofc.

fringe solstice
#

technically it would be ||ascalon, logos, blaze, rosmontis, the other ops are IS only or unreleased||

unkempt lintel
#

ideally, do i want the mimic to be in this area when i kill him?

#

bish so tanky ngl

leaden sierra
leaden sierra
unkempt lintel
#

theres a weakening node there

fringe solstice
full terrace
#

Also those 2 tiles are pretty safe

#

Safe from the lasers I mean

#

Safe enough for Contrail to just block the thing midair without receiving any damage

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If you have Yu and Asca raised, you can abuse them

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When the thing floats, getting dragged by the cursor

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Asca up for -85% Mov Speed

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Dw, her skill affects aerial targets

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That thing would just travel 1 tile with Asca debuff

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When it finally drops to the ground, Yu S2 and teleport it back

unkempt lintel
#

hmmm asca yu... i would need a sustain for these two yeh??? like probably monster or ng?? or probably quercus

full terrace
#

Yeh a Medic to heal em

unkempt lintel
#

hmmm.... ig that would do... acsa yu should also hold bot lane... now i need to worry top and mid lanes

full terrace
#

There is nothing on top aside from the killgate Golem

#

No need to defend that

#

The 2 middle lanes are where the pressure at

wintry gulch
#

Does Ray S3 warfarin one cycle

#

H15-4

full terrace
#

Should be 2 cycles

#

Idk if you add Suzuran maybe 1 cycle

wintry gulch
#

Cool thanks

narrow pendant
#

Thise 2 alone no

unkempt lintel
full terrace
#

Congrats!

ripe trellis
night silo
#

is there a intended way to complete h15-4

full terrace
#

The killgate way

narrow pendant
#

The kill everyone way

still vessel
#

the press every button and hope it clears way

narrow pendant
#

You spai

still vessel
#

how do you think i cleared h15-4 clueless

soft parrot
#

Can someone give me some advice on how to beat h15-4 with this team

earnest bobcat
soft parrot
#

Wdym by kill gate

earnest bobcat
#

@ masonma00

earnest bobcat
# soft parrot Wdym by kill gate

The community refers to something as a killgate when the rest of the waves don't spawn in because the enemy to kill to spawn them in isn't dead.

soft parrot
#

Mm and why should I do that?

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I thought i needed to kill the little robot to dmg the boss

earnest bobcat
#

Abusing the kill gate makes the rest of the map a lot easier to do at your leisure.

soft parrot
#

So i do that so I can set up for the next wave?

#

Ig i should use kal'tsit s1 then

earnest bobcat
#

Because now you're not trying to kill the boss, waves, and mimic machine all at once.

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You're just doing the mimic machine over and over again, and doing damage to the boss, and then after that and you kill the golem, you can do the waves.

soft parrot
#

And I use logos for killing the waves ig?

mild brook
#

How to beat??

pearl compass
earnest bobcat
pearl compass
#

If you have MudMud - it's joever.

#

Instawin.

earnest bobcat
earnest bobcat
mild brook
soft parrot
serene hornet
smoky halo
#

mob or boss dps

soft parrot
#

S3 right?

smoky halo
#

yuh

pearl compass
#

Or everyone else in chat.

soft parrot
#

Welp kal'tsit can't kill gate it

earnest bobcat
#

Mon3tr is many things.

#

A good defense stat isn't one of those.

soft parrot
#

I don't really have many tanky ops tbh except cuora ig

#

Yu does too much dmg

soft parrot
earnest bobcat
soft parrot
serene hornet
soft parrot
earnest bobcat
#

Who

soft parrot
#

The 4* that can fly

full terrace
#

Corn tail ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

Nah not needed, she is just there to delay the miniboss

#

Have you watched my 15-20 btw @soft parrot

soft parrot
#

Omg arf hi SoraWow

#

No i didn't I don't usually watch guides unless I'm really struggling with a stage for a while

full terrace
#

Yeah so basically

#

You kill the miniboss super fast and draw the first blood before the Golems spawn

#

And when the Golems spawn, stall one of them

#

Using Medic+Defender

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The entire battlefield will be empty so you can focus all your resources on the miniboss and the boss

#

Take your time to kill them

#

Watch that 15-20 video for reference on how killgate works

#

H15-4 has a killgate that triggered the same way too

#

Scroll down a bit

soft parrot
#

Okay, tysm arf you're the best ExuHeart

full terrace
#

Abusing killgate is one of the staple techniques btw, you should master it

soft parrot
#

Okay

#

I think I'll wait till the next login so I can farm chips to e1 corntail

#

Otherwise everyone else dies

#

Also should I S3M3 mon3tr for this clear?

#

She doesn't do enough dmg like in your video

manic vessel
#

in the hard mode of 15 20, how do i kill the golems so they dont AOE splash everything to death

full terrace
#

Also it doesnt have to be Mon3tr

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In my clear I used Lappcaster+Yu

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Iirc Logos can also solo handle it

soft parrot
#

I used kal'tsit n ente but they didn't do enough dmg sadly

#

Oh should I use yu then?

#

I still underestimate how much dmg he does with s2

full terrace
#

If you have Asca, you can Asca+Yu that thing and keep looping it back to its previous position

#

Asca has -85% Mov Speed that also affects aerial targets, when the miniboss is about to be dragged by the cursor, simply activate Asca skill

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It will only travel 1 tile

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When it drops to the ground, Yu S2 and teleport it back

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It will be stuck there forever

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And you can use someone like Virtuosa or Castermiya S3M3 to chip the big boss

soft parrot
#

I don't have ascalon sadly

soft parrot
soft parrot
full terrace
#

Yeah no, Ethan cant bind Aerial

soft parrot
#

I'll have to wait to get chips for corntail ig

full terrace
#

Asca is just unique

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Mostima can delay tho

#

Suzu too

soft parrot
#

She's pretty dam good

#

Don't have either ๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

I'd have loved to offrate her but instead I got pretty mid 6* like Saileach

soft parrot
full terrace
#

Errrr

#

Idk maybe you can use them to kill the miniboss faster

#

Instead of stalling

soft parrot
#

So ig I'll depend on amiya s2

#

For killing the boss

full terrace
#

Buf if you abuse killgate, you dont have that much time to burst the boss because

#

Once the miniboss travels to the upper side

#

It will just kill your Defender, the one stalling the Golem

soft parrot
#

Also for some reason the waves still spawn after I kill the miniboss even tho I'm stalling the golem

full terrace
soft parrot
#

Oh dam that's pretty hard then

full terrace
#

You dont have much time

#

Yes

serene hornet
soft parrot
#

Ig I'll use tequila to help mon3tr since I don't have her S3M3

#

Is that fine?

full terrace
#

Sure

#

I suggest you borrow Virtuosa

#

For boss duty

#

She is really great for the boss

#

The big one I mean

soft parrot
#

But I'm borrowing wis like in your vid

full terrace
#

I wouldnt borrow Wis, you can substitute her

#

Like Virtuosa can handle bottom lane and perform her boss duty

#

So you just need to plop someone to help with the top midlane

#

And you are good

soft parrot
#

Mm okay I'll try my best

#

Also virt uses her s3?

full terrace
#

Plop her on blue circle facing down

#

S1 better imo

#

S1 can do 3x Necrosis Burst on the boss

#

Thats plenty of damage

soft parrot
#

Okay

sharp pine
#

How to h15-4 easily?

full terrace
#

Run 13 meta units

glass monolith
#

Have you tried turning PRTS on and off?

lapis hornet
#

8 clears ez

#

if you run non afk lanes can cut couple units ez

#

ray instead of surtr might cut a unit too

rapid junco
#

Time to m3 virt to carbon copy this dalaos

topaz tapir
regal frost
#

that should clear

#

what you struggling with?

#

drones?

full terrace
#

Hi Suraj

topaz tapir
regal frost
topaz tapir
#

I can't block everything cuz I don't get enough DP

regal frost
#

good morning flanyr

topaz tapir
#

Stage doesn't have passive DP gen

regal frost
topaz tapir
glass monolith
#

Cant you use 1 block charger vanguard to block and kill dogs fast enough + full DP refund on first retreat?

regal frost
#

even e0 is fine since you just want dp

#

show vanguards?

topaz tapir
regal frost
#

id swap pinecone for Myrtle tbh

scarlet fulcrum
smoky halo
#

just borrow ling

#

s1

#

๐Ÿšฌ

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
#

U are not farming exp, wasted sanity