strategy

[halcyon adder]

Prob leak

[glass monolith]

It is fine, he have emergency myrtle to save the day

[pearl compass]

<BAM!>

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-myrtle-gif-23450471

[halcyon adder]

Elysium new va so bad

[pearl compass]

[dark violet]

nah, I have 3 AH and NTR

[pearl compass]

Yep

[dark violet]

easy kills

[pearl compass]

Actually I hate new EN Exu voice too

Let me create a diversion...
APLEPIE!

[dark violet]

sup

[topaz tapir]

How tf

[maiden hound]

use fang or something

[graceful cove]

Use Vanguards that can deal with early mobs.

Chargers or Pioneers.

Or Agents.

[maiden hound]

this is anti-myrtle propaganda stage

[lapis hornet]

why this boss so annoying to one cycle

I'm literally potgated

is there a guard that gives atk to all guards

not amiya

[full stream]

u can borrow btw u wont be farming exp stages anyway

[scarlet fulcrum]

Pepe

[lapis hornet]

zamn are barack

oh she has to be deployed

[scarlet fulcrum]

yea

[smoky halo]

cake dalao

[topaz tapir]

Is a Lv0 SkillLv4 Rope good enough for the bottom corner or do I need a defender there

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yes

Just rope e0 enough

[topaz tapir]

K who do I replace tho

[torn sandal]

maybe spot

this is so chaotic

[topaz tapir]

Honestly I have no idea what enemies come when so

[scarlet fulcrum]

1 aa and defender enough, rope and shaw in. Just in case thorns not enough

[topaz tapir]

Shaw goes where

[scarlet fulcrum]

Only deploy Shaw when wraith leader appear after 200 count, above blue box facing down. If thorns and krooster can kill them then shaw not needed. Just try first

finishing my daily

I dont remember ur thorns skill lv

[maiden hound]

rope*

[lapis hornet]

ok ez

[full stream]

u can put down spot where lappland is at the start u want lappland last deploy before ptil since there will be ranged shitter at top right coming down

and u can remove shaw after both wraith leaders are killed

[next wigeon]

Why is your Ulpianus near death

[topaz tapir]

I just want Gel vro

[lilac steppe]

Bruh.. need help with H15 4. Can only borrow 1 (ulpi/suzu/ifrit). Currently lack of damage, need more than 2 cycle to kill the boss. Can Yu replace Ulpi? So i can borrow debuffer instead

[topaz tapir]

Trying to prep by getting Tequila SkillLv7

But all my auto battles end in failure

[next wigeon]

Redo the stage with no tight timings and more stable runs

Where even is that

[pearl compass]

Should be Ep4.

[lapis hornet]

cause he sucks

[teal moon]

auto failure happens mainly because:

• fps drop
• stat changes (you gave some levels, more trust or did mastery)

[next wigeon]

Mine wasn't near death

[topaz tapir]

How does gaining more stats result in failure

I understand like
a unit being more expensive resulting in autofailure but what is this

[astral cosmos]

easy example: thorns

[teal moon]

it can mess up some timing or directly the rng seed

[topaz tapir]

S4-10

[astral cosmos]

more stats = kills enemies faster = doesn't charge skill

[pearl compass]

Bot cannot replicate the same action, if the timing of same actions differs.

Or the condition.

[topaz tapir]

Huh

Well I didn't level up Thorns recently

[pearl compass]

He will not drop Utage like last clear if died before that, if the Utage DIDN'T die in AutoDeploy.

[astral cosmos]

it was just an example

[teal moon]

it was just an example, do you want us to list all the possibilities?

[topaz tapir]

god and I also can't auto deploy in 4-10 cuz of RNG and I really need T3 Devices

I've been doing 3-4 instead

[teal moon]

you shouldn't farm these stages anyway btw

[full stream]

how urgent do u need the gel because it cant be that urgent that u cant wait babel rerun

[teal moon]

he needs devices, for some obscure reason he sent s4-10 instead

[topaz tapir]

No I also need Gel for Tequila SkillLv7

That's why wanna grind S4-10 and 4-10

[teal moon]

gel will be farmable in Ascalon rerun event, wait for it

what do you need device for?

[topaz tapir]

Blaze E2

[teal moon]

do deep investigation in IS for t4 and t5 materials

and Blaze is porbably low priority in your roster

[topaz tapir]

well this is my roster rn
Blaze was the next thing I was thinking of raising next

[teal moon]

e1 frostleaf for base
I'd do e1 lv40/50 for main team before doing e2 blaze

[topaz tapir]

Everyone is already E1

[teal moon]

I told you to level them til 40/50

[errant hawk]

I am the 6-5 guy and yeah while it works for the majority of the level after some editing of the plan to add a click for extra dps a lappy isnt enough but then i new problem shows itself in the very last zombie the one b4 is the leader it runs my reasources dry and kills sieara which causes click to die and lapp barely survives so i cant plot down anybody and he doesnt stop a bit at teq so he is just gets there kill lapp and just runs

[pearl compass]

Man.

That's brutal.

[errant hawk]

You tell me it happened twice just now

Wait a second

I have an idea

Say which is more generally useful ethan or kirara

[pearl compass]

Ethan ofc

Kirara's skill is focused on her survival which is poopoo for Ambushers.

[astral cosmos]

i am an extensive kirara user

she is shit

[pearl compass]

Ethan can fucking control with Binding and making Enraged Melee Zombies a little beaches to him.

Which cannot do any shit to u.

[astral cosmos]

honestly a strong contender for one of the worst 5*

[errant hawk]

Ok new plan build ethan

S1 or s2?

[full stream]

s2,but come on just borrow please

he is a good investment way later

but rn u have other thing to do so save mats

[errant hawk]

Duly noted will do

[mighty coral]

s1 is only used for hit based mechanics

[errant hawk]

What are those other things to make sure i am on track?

[mighty coral]

but you don’t need sl for that

[full stream]

base and base slaves if u havent>e1 your main team(ethan shouldnt be in your main gen content team) then e2 whatever your 6* main dps is

[full terrace]

@regal frost 200 people helped

[errant hawk]

Ok i am almost done with base just need to upgrade the trading posts and the factories so thats good
Ig my main 6* dps is SA so yeah that still has ways to go and i think i have a pretty solid e1 cataloge most of them are 3 stars but they get the job done so far

But good to know thank you

[glass monolith]

I seen that i am missing football enemies from first Icebreaker and just ragequit on attempting to get enemy entities

In fucking Silksong when content is permamently gone you just get enemy entities for free

[full terrace]

Which football enemies?

[glass monolith]

6 18 20 22 29 30 31 32 33 34 41 42 43 44 45 46 52 55
Yes i don't care 2 of them are bastion enemies, 1 is bonus enemy from regular

[errant hawk]

Ok borrowing made thisg a lot easier

[scarlet fulcrum]

Best way to fix certain issue

[next wigeon]

Congratulations 🎉

[regal frost]

damn

good job

bet you can't wait for next icebreaker lol

[full terrace]

Yah I didnt get to play that much

Had to record some videos

Previous Icebreaker I played like 1000 matches

Btw @regal frost did you unlock all your Bastion bosses pokedex

[regal frost]

don't think so

[full terrace]

That Swiftness especially

[regal frost]

I'll check later, I'm playing cn again lol

need to get radian leveled

[full terrace]

Icebreaker ends tomorrow so

[regal frost]

I only have beginner left to do and football I think

Will do later or tomorrow before reset

[plucky grove]

do you get medals for unlocking these or is it just for completion

[regal frost]

it's just for completion

[plucky grove]

i c

[full terrace]

Yah what Suraj said

We dont know if the event will come back or

If the event comes back with different enemies

[dense hawk]

H15-4

Does anyone know a strategy?

Wait is this the right channel?

[astral cosmos]

it is

[visual goblet]

thinkings

[dense hawk]

Ok so do you have a strategy to beat it?

[visual goblet]

if i said you were in the wrong channel would you believe me
your not

[dense hawk]

Cause I’m not doing enough damage and the little thingy ends up killing half my team

[visual goblet]

hopefully someone whos actually tried the stage comes and helps

i havent sry

[dense hawk]

I know

I still don’t understand why there no ground tile to hit the boss

[odd grotto]

so, the strategy is, basically

@full terrace waiting for ur guide

[full terrace]

Yeah uh.. about that..

[torpid prawn]

The lowest strategy i could find is arturia + monster/CE.
At that point might as well speedrun the entire mainstory.
I thought about changing CE for lapper/eyja but the dp difference is way too big + 1st in line to getting cancelled + need a healer till the boss dies

[last arrow]

heya, does anyone have a site where the enemies and pathing can be shown?

i'm a new player and just trying to clear stage for funsies but a lot of the time (unexpected) enemies just show up and i die 🔥

[split spire]

Help. . . Any idea how to clear this hell stage with my ops is borrowing wisadel best idea or any other ops ?

[south spindle]

map-ark?

uh i mean

this is normal

if you're very new you still getting the grasp of things

🥹

[south spindle]

Should have ceobe on the boss itself, but you need some res shred like Ifrit or Eyja
Suzu is also very useful

[last arrow]

thanks

[fringe solstice]

It depends on what you have. Surtr, logos with ifrit, Ray, wisadel with buffs or debuffs(I used suzuran and shamare) seem to be the best way to deal with the boss.

[split spire]

Guess iam cooked I dont have any of that except ceobe

[full terrace]

I'm not making Low-End recording for H stages, there are a few reasons for it but the first and foremost is that I need some rest. The 15-20 video didnt get that many reactions so I thought maybe newbies think Chapter 15 is too hard and they farm the Shop Currency somewhere else. I'm making videos primarily to help new bloods and I'm a believer that people with built squad can clear stages by themselves, since newbies arent doing Chapter 15, those who attempt H stages are people with built squad so I dont really feel like the need to make recordings for that.
....that being said, I can still show you the way on how to kill the boss, but only show you the way, you still have to think of the positioning etc yourself

[full terrace]

Here you go, this is how you trigger the killgate

Now you just need to keep killing the miniboss, and then the boss, you can do 4 cycles if you want as long as you can keep the miniboss in place without letting it drift to the upper side where the Golem is stalled, otherwise the Defender stalling the Golem will be killed

I suggest you bring along a ranged True Damage or Elemental Damage dps

Castermiya or Virtuosa works great

The killspeed depends on your ops but the finished result should look like this

At 13/37 and boss dead

Then I trust you can lanehold the rest of etc enemies?

[visual goblet]

Sorry im dumb what exactly triggers the insta loss mechanic, and how does stalling the boss there prevent this

[earnest bobcat]

... Scuse me as I use bangheadonwall.exe for taking so many attempts on this.

[visual goblet]

From what i see its time, so i dont see how its movement affects anything...?

[full terrace]

Stationary bosses in Arknights generally have time limit, I dont remember how many minutes for this boss but there is a time limit for it, once the time is up, you get the insta loss. Now killing the first miniboss early, moves the killgate to the first wave, this allows you to kill the boss in peace without being bothered by the etc enemies

I abused the same mechanic in 15-20 here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFAA7kxitE&list=PLdcpPSF3owK7pJCi9XH77dUkHQXSPkmBg&index=19&pp=gAQBiAQB

This is an example where I 4 cycled the boss using Wis

[tidal sedge]

Skyranger being used wth

[visual goblet]

And here i was trying so hard to kill the miniboss 1 more time for just 1 more cycle.... Neat info

[signal vector]

any idea how to beat this mofo?

[tidal sedge]

Is that an is2 boss

i never seen him b4

[signal vector]

yep

it's a hidden ending, this is the 2nd time I got this ending

[fringe solstice]

depends on what you have but I found it is easier to build towards a squad of amiya(or elemental/true damage dealer), nightingale(boss deals a lot of arts damage, has a skill that deals arts damage in a cross to everyone so space out placement), saria, kal'tist(for holding other enemies) At 50% hp, he gains 100% def and 80% res. so save true/elemental damage.
Also, he is basically Arts Faust, so fast redeploy is good.

[signal vector]

nvm, I thought he's hard, I lost to him once but yea this time I got him good

[visual goblet]

Technically you should ask in #is-station, better responses there in general

[vocal leaf]

actually no, is-station is offtopic2 most of the time

[torpid prawn]

Good news is: i found a narrow way to start it by replacing CE with lapper and send it to mid-late game.
Bad news is: i must sacrifice supporter damage cuz 2 extra dp wasnt cutting it so the drone ends up leaking 100%.
Found the reason: i cant get virtuosa s1 to attack the upper drone the exact moment it comes out and thats why it fails

[brazen harbor]

literally struggling w H15-4 too 💔

[willow sun]

best advice i can give is be patient

[brazen harbor]

fair

any advice for who to use though

[willow sun]

the shapeshifter elites are very weak to physical damage, bottom lane needs a trash eater/laneholder and maybe medic, top lane wants a tank to stall

i'd be more specific but i gotta finish an assignment first

[brazen harbor]

gogogo then 🙏

gl w the assignment!

[static geyser]

Can someone help me. Idk what to do next haha I'm so close

[brazen harbor]

which 1 is this

[jovial rose]

Anyone know how I can beat IW-3 with this team? The stage where you can get alter kroos

[static geyser]

Oh sorry lol it's chernobog annihilation

[full terrace]

Did you get Tequila already?

Wait nvm I see him now

He is there

Anyway, it's borrow time

[jovial rose]

I was gonna be sarcastic, you saved your life there

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=puLkWH4U7Fs&list=PLdcpPSF3owK7tpCEar3o0P_Uqkc6GP8p6&index=78&pp=gAQBiAQB0gcJCesJAYcqIYzv

There is no need for sarcasm, chill out there

[jovial rose]

Was gonna do it for the fun’s you got a spare whatever that girl is?

The uh support unit

[full terrace]

Uh.. she is everywhere. Her name is Wis'adel btw

I'm pretty sure you can get someone to lend you one in #help

[jovial rose]

Ok

Thx bro

[full terrace]

My friend list is full

You are welcome and best of luck there

[brazen harbor]

dw ill lend u one

can i mayhaps get unit recommendations for H15-4

[jovial rose]

Ty broski

[brazen harbor]

drop user

[jovial rose]

Why was the tequila not used at all 😭😭😭😭

[hazy sinew]

can I have a spot

[hazy sinew]

How about saying something to prove your existence?

[brazen harbor]

idealist#0157

[full terrace]

He is there so that your borrowed unit is E2-ed. When you borrow a unit, the borrowed unit Elite level is adjusted to the highest Elite level of the units in your squad.

[brazen harbor]

lemme put wisadel on rq

[full terrace]

Mon3tr to 1 cycle the miniboss, Wisadel to just clean things up in general, and then a boss killer, the boss killer must be someone with high dph but with low number of hits

So someone like Ray, Ceobe

[brazen harbor]

mont3r s3 or 2

[full terrace]

Or you can use True or Elemental Damage dps

Such as Castermiya and Virtuosa

Mon3tr S3 to 1 cycle the miniboss

[brazen harbor]

k

[full terrace]

Aside from that you want air staller

Asca can slow air if you need her to

Then there is Suzu

Mostima

Contrail

[brazen harbor]

wb floor tiles

[full terrace]

Can also use Ines and Ray's bind

Their first hit binds

[brazen harbor]

s3 for the slow or s2 for stun

[jovial rose]

Crazy

Mb I was afk

[full terrace]

S3, you want to keep that miniboss in place when it's floating, getting dragged by the cursor

[brazen harbor]

alr

[full terrace]

And burst it quick with your dps

If you managed to keep it in Mon3tr's attack range thats even better

Can use her to 1 cycle it again

[brazen harbor]

floor tiles then? should i even worry about dp probs not right

i was running vulpis b4 for the 9 dp

[full terrace]

DP is not much of an issue in this stage but you can always bring Vanguards if you want

Nah not Vulpis

You want DP you bring Agents or Flags

[brazen harbor]

alr

im js worried abt leaking bc the leaking on the 15-20 was an issue for me tbh

wanna 3* it

[full terrace]

Your job

Is to kill the miniboss before the Golems spawn

You must get that first blood at all cost

[brazen harbor]

ah

[full terrace]

Once you do, and the Golems spawned

You triggered a killgate, so you can use Medic+Defender

To stall the top Golem

And the entire field is open to you

So you can just like

4 cycles the boss or something

[brazen harbor]

oki doke

[brazen harbor]

"kill" as in js be able to attack the big prts right

[full terrace]

Just make sure the miniboss does not drift to the top side coz it will kill your Defender stalling the Golem there

[full terrace]

Yes

[brazen harbor]

[full terrace]

You can hit it too but I mean

Just get that first kill for DP and activate the killgate

[brazen harbor]

ok

thoughts on gladdia?

[jovial rose]

WHY TF DOES SHE HIT LIKE A NUKE

[jovial rose]

Oh well Ty for her

I got kroos alter

[full terrace]

You can use Gladiia to transform the shapeshifter into runner enemies

But I mean

Run Wisadel and shoot em its easier that way

Read this bit here #strategy message

[brazen harbor]

lol

[brazen harbor]

k

[static geyser]

Guys who do I place next

[timid cave]

Can anybody tell me how to deal with those enemies that wrap your operators around and drain their life cuz they seem impossible to stop

[bitter halo]

ur fine , put down robot below cuora

[static geyser]

The big guys at the middle row are turning left how would I go about defending it

[wary shuttle]

I don't remember how I was supposed to clear it at the expected level of progression, I think you just have to rotate someone to that intersection before the blue box

facetanking the top left casters would be rough though

[static geyser]

Yeah I think before it was using Jessica and mylantha to defend

[bitter halo]

sorry i did this like 4 years ago

[static geyser]

Oof

[wary shuttle]

maybe go on the wiki and check the enemy composition for the last two waves, its probably possible to cut down a unit or two on the bottom right

you'd probably be good just saving melantha and another medic and helidropping them for the last few waves

[clever hedge]

either use someone like lappland who can silence that skill or bait it with someone like gravel

[bitter halo]

i found the pathing

[fringe solstice]

The red arrows are enemy paths. And kroos is good there from what I remember. You may need another dps to help kroos

[wary shuttle]

If you get shaw S2 to SL7 I think he can push everything that pops up on top right afaik

[fringe solstice]

sl4 is when the push force increases

for s1

should be enough iirc

[wary shuttle]

yeah but S1 probably isnt enough for the lumberjacks

or other elite that pops up later on

[narrow pendant]

What she cant push just kill

[wary shuttle]

deploy limit consumption is probably too high to also handle top left then

[fringe solstice]

after watching a few clears I remember using 2 snipers, one on the bottom right and one in the middle, something like this. Although, I used melantha instead of tequila.

[narrow pendant]

You either stun, shift, kill them or outheal the dmg once they do the bind
You can instead, when u see them place another op to use as bait and as soon as they are bound, u retreat
They can do the attack only once

[brazen harbor]

not sure its triggering

either my timing is wrong

or idk

prolly timing, ill try again

[full terrace]

#strategy message

[brazen harbor]

yeah lemme js check again

istg the golems spawned after but perhaps im wrong

[full terrace]

You must kill the miniboss right after it lands, thats around the bottom right corner

Thats the timing

It's not a big timeframe

If you delay a bit more the Golems will spawn

[brazen harbor]

yep

i see it now

[brazen harbor]

issue rn is that my mon3tr cannot kill him in one go

[full terrace]

Lv90 M3-ed?

Stack a bit more damage then

Should be fine

[narrow pendant]

She should be able to as monster total dmg is around 36k

With miniboss having 30k
But i suppose not m3 and stuff changes that, just help her wwith another dmg dealer

[brazen harbor]

lvl 70

[full terrace]

You can stack one more dps to help her

[narrow pendant]

Oh wait no im dumb
H stages has more

[brazen harbor]

like who

[full terrace]

Who do you have there

Casters or Specialists

[brazen harbor]

oh

i was going to put ela there to deal dmg but then

the prts insta killed her

[narrow pendant]

Ela only has 2k dph
Boss has 3k def
She wouldnt do much anyway, but her fragile can buff monsters dmg

[brazen harbor]

ye

was what i was going for but

she dies insta

imma see if i can drop her trap before

uh

she died

[narrow pendant]

Cant u..drop her elsewhere away from the boss
So she does not get killed

[brazen harbor]

that

.

thats true wait a sec

[unkempt mirage]

Which boss has 3k def

[brazen harbor]

the prts dude

miniboss

[narrow pendant]

The current one

[narrow pendant]

Both do funny enough

Mini and main

[unkempt mirage]

[brazen harbor]

btw

whats mon3tr's range when in S3

[narrow pendant]

Plus bunch of other ones has 3k def too

[narrow pendant]

3x3

[brazen harbor]

kk

[unkempt mirage]

75 res too

[brazen harbor]

back to tryng 🥀

erm

so

[brazen harbor]

istg the golems spawned only a bit after

i

will try again

nvm worked

[full terrace]

Your timing is off yeah

It needs to be fast, you dont have much time

Unless your Mon3tr 1 cycle

[brazen harbor]

yeah i was too close to the spawn time

had to drop 3 ela bombs 🥀

ty ty for the help

[full terrace]

Best of luck there

[brazen harbor]

[timid cave]

OH THANK U MANE

[full terrace]

Well congrats there

Once you get the killgate its pretty straightforward from there

[brazen harbor]

yep ^^

[fresh gazelle]

wow! that boss sure was annoying.
Fortunately
Surtr

my initial idea was kirin r yato, because duh, it's a Big boss
but unfortunately, its defenses are too high and also it's basically anti-yato bait

[brazen harbor]

the prts one?

[fresh gazelle]

yes

[brazen harbor]

gosh yea it was HELLA annoying 💔

[fresh gazelle]

SO annoying

[brazen harbor]

i tried way too many times 😭🙏

[fresh gazelle]

because my go-to for bosses is "throw yato at them if I don't have enough damage or a good option for range"

[brazen harbor]

the fact that you're intended to defeat the big prts in 2 cycles is insane

[limpid ore]

problem that i noticed with yato s3, that 1 gap of tile at the beginning or mid way cause significant damage loss

[fresh gazelle]

I only took threeee tries
one blind run which died to a golem, one attempt that didn't kill the boss fast enough, but got me more familiar with it, and one last with a slight squad switcheroo that cleaned up the boss

[fresh gazelle]

what, with prts?

[limpid ore]

yeah

well, any enemies tbh

[brazen harbor]

fair

[fresh gazelle]

the main issue with yato is that she just don't got the DEEPS

[brazen harbor]

i kept on messing up time

[fresh gazelle]

not against enemies with high defense

[brazen harbor]

cause my mon3tr is too weak to once cycle mini boss

[brazen harbor]

😔

[fresh gazelle]

oh I just threw a couple of my best defense piercing ops (ifrit and typhon) at the entire problem, used narantuya for mostly the left side, and nightingale and ptilopsis to keep hoederer (and everyone else) alive
and of course, the most important operator, surtr.
I ALSO EMPLOYED THE FABLED DOUBLE FLAGPIPE

genuinely, surtr two-cycles the main boss on her own

if you can deal with the mimic machine twice, with surtr available each time, you have beaten it

I did not expect it to be as effective as it was, actually

[tidal sedge]

Guys, does anyone know why it gets lost in the H15-4? I hadn't missed a single enemy, I took good care of that, but suddenly the message of "failed mission" appeared to me

[pearl compass]

420 seconds to kill the boss.

[tidal sedge]

[pearl compass]

https://tenor.com/view/times-up-joel-madden-ink-master-s14e1-youve-ran-out-of-time-gif-26664291

[tidal sedge]

Thx u for telling me that you have a time limit 😅

[pearl compass]

Yeah. Be fast.

[narrow pendant]

Every stationary (not moving) boss has a time limiy

[tidal sedge]

Very

[tidal sedge]

Oh, thx 🙂‍↕️

[fresh gazelle]

better find a surtr to kill the boss

[tidal sedge]

Okay!

[fresh gazelle]

(but like, actually, I'm pretty sure surtr is one of the best options for actually taking out this chapter's stationary boss, since it tracks hit count and surtr has really high instance damage)

ulpianus probably does the job too but I don't have him

[narrow pendant]

Theres many ways to kill the boss

[fresh gazelle]

well yeah but surtr makes it really easy

[narrow pendant]

But i dont want stinky surtr

I used the superior bnnuy

[brazen harbor]

really?

[brazen harbor]

one cycle the miniboss before the golems 🥀

[fresh gazelle]

well, adverse she did
but not the strategic simulation

[brazen harbor]

ah

15-20 u mean?

[fresh gazelle]

yeah

oh, do the H stages also give stat buffs to the enemies

[pearl compass]

Ofc.

All of them, boss included too as always.

[fresh gazelle]

right, yeah
it's just been so long

[lilac steppe]

I wonder why my surtr with Mod3 need 3 cycles, or does level affect that much?

[fresh gazelle]

I know my surtr is only level 60
but on the H stage it's probably a 3 cycle
I was speaking on only the adverse 15-20 version

I had a temporary bout of insanity and forgot that the H stages existed

[lilac steppe]

Ah i see. Gotcha

[brazen harbor]

it's 2 🥀

2 cycle

thats all u get

😞

[sly drift]

Ray + Warf + Mon3 can do one cycle in H15-4

Practically stage hacc

[sly drift]

Also.. I just find out today that Ulpian S3 doesn't carry over the buff that's given by warfarin before he throw the anchor

[narrow pendant]

[sly drift]

Like.. The Nuke damage doesn't even registered the buff

Weird shit

[pearl compass]

S3 is redeploy basically

Ofc all buffs are down

You need to buff him AFTER S3.

[sly drift]

Oh.. nevermind.. nuke actually buffed.
Alright.. maybe not

Just not afterwards

[sly drift]

Yea.. What I believe until today is he is redeployed after S3 ENDED.

Turns out he is redeployed twice

[dusty sphinx]

@smoky halo it doesnt 1 cycle 😭

Surtr saria suzuran

[smoky halo]

do u need to 1 cycle?

[dusty sphinx]

after the burst the hand picks up the dog and it laser wipes the whole team

[smoky halo]

add warf buff to surtr then

[dusty sphinx]

I'm out of deploy limit

[smoky halo]

retreat mlynar

u can just warf bufff then retreat her

then deploy someone else like ulp

to help out bottom

[dusty sphinx]

I need mlynar to kill the red boxes so kalstit can hit the boss

[dusty sphinx]

I'll try that

[smoky halo]

what

oh the pet

?

alternatively u can just s3m3 saria

if she isnt s3m3 yet

[placid walrus]

Any tips how to cheese this stage? (My phone freezes in this stage)

[dense hawk]

Hello I’m back from sleeping what did I miss

[smoky halo]

wym cheese

bring asca

if ur device is dying bc too much enemies

then just bring 12 meta dps units and kill everything

and hope ur ally does the same thing

[placid walrus]

I see, i shall pray 🙏
Dang potato device

[dusty sphinx]

Everything is m3 (i'm not willing to use sl7)

[dense hawk]

I’ve seen some people say to use yu s2 to teleport the little thingy to get more time.

This is usefull?

[dusty sphinx]

Holy shit Fib with Warf its a 1 cycle

[narrow pendant]

Can be

[dusty sphinx]

NEIN

[pearl compass]

oof

Almost.

[dusty sphinx]

I quit

Its the 4th hour

[halcyon adder]

U got aak?

[dusty sphinx]

I don't sadly

[halcyon adder]

Ifrit?

[dusty sphinx]

Nop

[halcyon adder]

🥹

[dusty sphinx]

Saria surtr suzuran warfarin mon3tr passive cant kill it then I give up

[narrow pendant]

Its so exhilirating
Finaly a good H stages

🥹

Thank you hg

[dusty sphinx]

Honestly I agree, it has been a blast

[narrow pendant]

Ch14 ones were so fraudulent

[dusty sphinx]

But mechanics favouring certain ops like ray is unhealthy imo

I really dislike that in other gachas

[narrow pendant]

It is a little bit cringe that u cant basicaly use a ground op for h15-4

But it adds a little spice so its also kinda nice

[halcyon adder]

Surtr?

Vina

[narrow pendant]

"Basicaly cant"
Ofc theres few u can

[halcyon adder]

Vivi

[narrow pendant]

No?

[dusty sphinx]

little bit? all my true dmg ops like vina mon3tr kalstit cant touch it

[narrow pendant]

Who would use those

[halcyon adder]

Yes?

Idk simps

[narrow pendant]

Dont tell me vina 2nd skill

If u do, youll die

[halcyon adder]

Yes

[narrow pendant]

Okay youre dying

[dusty sphinx]

surtr is the only real candidate I have to kill this boss

[halcyon adder]

For physical only options r ray warf

[narrow pendant]

Something aomething im happy to own the bestest bunny

[lilac steppe]

If it helps, i did 3 cycle of Surtr (without buff / debuff). The key is killing the miniboss at the bottom with: Monster 1 cycle, Logos 1 cycle, Mylnar... its so chaotic, i might miss the detail of the order.
Oh, i cycle mostima and ines to keep the mini boss from moving

[lapis hornet]

one cycles ez

[halcyon adder]

I tried pozy before knowinh boss stats

She did 188 dmg

[dusty sphinx]

ifrit... account gap...

[halcyon adder]

Use pram

[dusty sphinx]

yk, this is so smart

gladia block into pulling them back

Holy iq

[full stream]

It's kinda what people did in 15-20 right top side

[lapis hornet]

it's standard strat I didn't come up with it

saw someone else do it

[dusty sphinx]

I struggled with those guys in the middle so bad

[lapis hornet]

apparently everyone's on yt does it too

[halcyon adder]

I thought u place gladiaa top tile

[narrow pendant]

Cuz its simple and afk

[halcyon adder]

Cake famous utuber

[full stream]

If it's not m3 s1 u need like a slow/dps

M3 s1 gladia is jail territory

[narrow pendant]

Fairly sure u dont need m3

[full stream]

Really? Just mody1?

[narrow pendant]

Wraiths arent heavy

[dusty sphinx]

also, how does ulpianus kill the boss without boss just flying through him?

[narrow pendant]

U deal dmg to him so he falls

[smoky halo]

yeah u were like 1/6 or 1/5 short on dmg, warf buff is like +25% dmg

[narrow pendant]

30% of hp dealt and he'll fall

[dusty sphinx]

im like 5% off the makr

[halcyon adder]

[dusty sphinx]

maybe it's because my surtr is lv 69 and not 90

[narrow pendant]

Actually not sure
Im using X but di have s1m3

[smoky halo]

3k def

L bozo

[narrow pendant]

[smoky halo]

99% of phys units struggle

without buffers

[halcyon adder]

My cleae

[full stream]

Ngl if u don't need m3 and just sl7 my rope should have clear this fraud wraiths

[narrow pendant]

Guess u need modY

[dusty sphinx]

ulpianus skill 2 is so good... people in help chat really just disregard it completely

[full stream]

The only debuffer I have built is thorns alt and that guy s3 can't reach the boss

[narrow pendant]

Goodluck using ut when u run ulpi

[narrow pendant]

We dont, its just afk and s3 is better
We know s2 is good

[dusty sphinx]

s3 downtime is geniunely bad

[halcyon adder]

Help just hates afk skills

[lapis hornet]

help ppl hate afk to the.bone.cause most of them can't afford the rosyer lmao

[narrow pendant]

[lapis hornet]

it's so funny

the cope is overflowed

[full stream]

🚬

[narrow pendant]

Stupid

[halcyon adder]

Cake spoke the truth

[dusty sphinx]

lol

[narrow pendant]

If u genuinely think s2 is better than s3

Then

Better to lazy lanehold? Sure
Better skill? Hell nah

[dusty sphinx]

it's not, but help says its completely inferior to s3 so

[lapis hornet]

you ca'mn think it's lower ceiling

[halcyon adder]

I mean its the skill u use 90 percent of the time

So makes sense to raise it first

[narrow pendant]

Is your keyboard broken

[pearl compass]

It is? Don't think it applies to me.

[lapis hornet]

to say it's bad cause it's "afk slop" shows you just never built and used it lmay

[halcyon adder]

Ya stages r not hard enough nearly often to warrant s3

[limpid ore]

use s3 but never active it :clueless:

[pearl compass]

I mean... it's basically Zuo S3.

[lapis hornet]

wbo

who

[pearl compass]

ZuoLe

[narrow pendant]

My ulpi is build ti the max

Feiker

[full stream]

Look at this guy

[halcyon adder]

Real pros use ulpi s1 to pull theresis

[limpid ore]

got cursed by wet screen keyboard

[narrow pendant]

Plus my afk slop squad is big too

[full stream]

#strategy is really strategizing

[dusty sphinx]

strategy became help chat

[narrow pendant]

Strategize deez nuts on your mom's face

[dusty sphinx]

[narrow pendant]

[halcyon adder]

I want another afk laneholder as strong as ulpi pls

[lapis hornet]

bro when I see s1s on arkrec these mfs are creizi

like chen s1

for cc

insane shit

[pearl compass]

You have the old one.

[full stream]

So you can sleep twice as long?

[dusty sphinx]

you can use downtain (he's D tier now)

[halcyon adder]

Ya who wants to use skill in story mode

[full stream]

Mountain when a slightly strong mobs shows up💔

[dusty sphinx]

mountain borderline useless operator in the big 25... wish I could sell him for 2 gold certs

[halcyon adder]

Mountain is like 10 times weaker than ulpi

[lapis hornet]

why you care about tiers that shit is for noobs

[halcyon adder]

[dusty sphinx]

just trying to say bro is useless

[halcyon adder]

Wtf is IG4 cake

[limpid ore]

hoe s1 tech

[lapis hornet]

I still use him more than supposed s tiers

[dusty sphinx]

So do I need y1 gladia to pull wraiths or not?

[lapis hornet]

idk last map I failed

think coop map lol

[halcyon adder]

Legit not a bad skill lol

[limpid ore]

is it the gramaphone capture stage?

[halcyon adder]

Modx s1m3 is enough

[lapis hornet]

other mf just bailed soon as one of his units died

idr

[narrow pendant]

Went to look
Ye

Either s1m3 or modY

[lapis hornet]

just add

skadi mod in squad npnp

[narrow pendant]

But u can just add someone to help her

[full stream]

Any dps/slow

[dusty sphinx]

time to s1 m3 gladia ig -_-

[limpid ore]

or anyone to block and transform the rock into wraith and put ascalon s1 after

[lapis hornet]

mountain surely works

[full stream]

Afk slop didn't know shiyon is like this

[limpid ore]

myrtle works so...

it's just to trigger the transformation

[narrow pendant]

Just
Use anyone else ti help her🥀

Dont be dumb

Dont mastery skills for 1 stage

Thats so cringe

[dusty sphinx]

I use gladia ulpianus every stage anyw might as well

[full stream]

Especially when it ain't even CC m3 a unit for a gen content stage💔

[lapis hornet]

bro i need a hoe

[full stream]

It's your account I guess

[lapis hornet]

even pulled the select 3 unit's banner for him

smh

[dusty sphinx]

LMAO I almost did the same for is5

[full stream]

Hoe s1>his two other fraud skill

[halcyon adder]

U r destined to be hoeless

[dusty sphinx]

hoe is so bad tho... I used him and his s3 made me sad

[lapis hornet]

it's funny permastun in is

[limpid ore]

percentile healing is good

[lapis hornet]

think not so bad the couple times I borrowed

reputation as totally trash bit undeserved

[limpid ore]

imagine if ED5 amiya can spawn Graveyard

[dusty sphinx]

maybe i'm just spoiled by ulpianus... the anchor boy is too good...

[lapis hornet]

ulpi p.good ya

[dusty sphinx]

Unkillable demon king... the boy who lived...

[limpid ore]

feesh

[lapis hornet]

i can't rly speak tho I play low step.ulpi gladi.are on like 80% of maps loles

[narrow pendant]

Brother

Your keyboard

[limpid ore]

i kinda want to see how new operators deal against Graveyard

[lapis hornet]

I'm on phone just stfu

[limpid ore]

[narrow pendant]

Nuh uh

Im on phone too

And typing with one hand

[lapis hornet]

I'm typing with my d..

[dusty sphinx]

You need better typing #strategy

[lapis hornet]

dentist gloves I mean

[narrow pendant]

Its so small it can hit the letters?

Thats magical

[limpid ore]

[rich plover]

Can Shaw push the Sarkaz shield guys?

[pearl compass]

The Ep14 one?

[full terrace]

In the "Enemy Info" tab, check its Weight

[pearl compass]

I'm afraid not, Weight 4.
Even with 3 she's struggling, not to mention that.

[rich plover]

Yea

Damn, so what's the hole for in 14-17?

[limpid ore]

you can stack shift force with other operator sure, just mind the timing and position

[pearl compass]

It's for Souls, I think.

Or it's for harder pushers.

Like Weedy.

She has enough power to push down.

[limpid ore]

well, weedy might as well count as 2 pusher with her water cannon

[rich plover]

S3?

[pearl compass]

Yes

S2 is Weight 3 push at most.

[rich plover]

Does S3 have to be M3 or something?

[pearl compass]

Yes

[elder flume]

S3M3 + blockshift

[rich plover]

Blockshift?

[elder flume]

or Gladiia S1M3 mody to not need blockshift

[pearl compass]

ModY

If blocked 2 people, Shift Power +1

[elder flume]

since force 3 against weight 4 is only 0.44 tiles shift you might miss the hole

so need to deploy a blocker on enemy after shifted to add more tiles

atleast thats what i see from enemy pathing

[pearl compass]

And?

Git gud.

[ember field]

Oh man, its hard

Even i can't find it all enemy

I put the wissadel behind the blue box

And above it flametail and mrytle

But idk where it comes from enemy entered blue box

I just saw only 2 blue box

Idk why

I want really really can win in here

Should i put defender like shu?

I wonder which operator lane holder in middle blue box

[pearl compass]

2 anyone strong.

Ideally you just killgate the boss.

And stall one golem endlessly until you kill the boss.

[lilac steppe]

You managed to kill 35 / 37, including boss. But why the enemy information still locked?

[pearl compass]

It's not his

[ember field]

Not from me

Its from yt

I just watch until 10x

[lilac steppe]

Ooooh, okay2

[ember field]

Still not worth

Did i go wrong?

I'm on the boss stage, and I have to admit, it's frustrating that I can't position an operator next to the blue box, which is four or five blocks away from another blue box. That would've made things much smoother, as I had hoped.

[ember field]

Thats is what i saw in other group

No wonder its hard

[ember field]

I wonder why this easy, hehe

😌

[modern kiln]

7-12 gives me PTSD

[pearl compass]

4-4?

[modern kiln]

Yeah lol

I should bring out YouTube for this one

[floral dove]

i realy need help in 15h-4

[pearl compass]

With what exactly?

[floral dove]

the level☹️

[pearl compass]

I figured that.

What hates so much - boss, enemies?

[floral dove]

everything☹️

[pearl compass]

Show your squad then.

[floral dove]

aight

https://krooster.com/u/fresh-rainbow-raven-34yv here is my krooster

[pearl compass]

I wanted to see the squad, but alr, let's see your roster anyway.

Oh, you have S1M3 Gladiia, that's cute

You can pull the Avenger coming on central bluebox.

[floral dove]

for the last cc

[floral dove]

so do you have a good squad in mind?

[pearl compass]

Most of your ops pretty unleveled and you have yet to damage the boss.

Surtr will help doing that for sure.

But you need some help.

Like Ray maxleveled.

[floral dove]

so any thoughts for a squad?

[pearl compass]

You may also killgate the boss by stalling golems.

[pearl compass]

Too hard thinking on job with mobile.

[floral dove]

oh

[pearl compass]

Think Wis, Gladiia, Ines, Kal, Logos, Surtr, Typhon, Monsta, Nighty, Myrtle, ZuoLe and Ela might help.

[modern kiln]

Ultimate squad fr

[unkempt mirage]

Help 15-20 pls

My squad is degen naran exeAlt zuoLe mon3 saria typhon ptilo myrtle

[full stream]

Mon3tr can two cycle the boss btw(just let her solo) so the main thing u should be focusing on is dealing with the mini boss u could use something like zuo lee/Typhon/Saria/ptil to handle the mid section the top you can try narantuya

I genuinely think exalt a fraud and would rather get another DP gen to put these down

[unkempt mirage]

Is it ideal to let ptilo sustain the middle 2x2 tiles or just ignore it completely and place my laneholders elsewhere

[full stream]

Saria and ptil should be enough to sustain each other+typhon,zuo lee won't need it Typhon would help dealing the other goons

[unkempt mirage]

Who's gonna deal with the golems?

[full stream]

Zuo lee should be the one doing the bulk of damage to the mini boss

[full stream]

U can time the mon3tr s3 to both hit the golem and PRTS

[unkempt mirage]

I don't think he survives the laser when there's a window of there being no enemies to proc his barrier at

[full stream]

Let's try we are talking theories here but u might need to put them to the test

[unkempt mirage]

I put zuo le to hold the right-most side of the lane. So gotta figure that one out too

I'll see if degen + ansel can hold

[full stream]

Btw the orbs change into wraiths if u block them u can put rope pointing down+a dps so rope can stall the wraiths and the dps kills it

[unkempt mirage]

Oh I haven't considered borrowed unit

[unkempt mirage]

Do i have to build her for her pull to do something?

[full stream]

Just sl7 E1

[full stream]

Oh if consider it u can borrow gladia with either mody1 or m3 s1 and she can solo the orbs(wraiths facing down)

[storm ferry]

is this how i was supposed to do 3-7

[full stream]

Yeah could have made the choke point tighter but it works

[unkempt mirage]

I'll try. Thanks!!

[storm ferry]

spent way too long figuring out i could just send all the enemies down a path where i had more space

[unkempt mirage]

Btw do u have gladiia

[full stream]

Hell nah #friend-id

[plucky badge]

could you elaborate on what this means? also struggling with this stage, saw the message and tried stalling the last golem but the boss still ended the level due to taking too long

[pearl compass]

If you drop the boss down once BEFORE Golems spawns on the field, the new enemies won't spawn until both Golems are dead.

You can use this moment to prepare killing squad to boss and rush him ASAP while stopped one of Golem somewhere and not killing him.

When the boss is killed, retreat all that ops and rearrange ops that would be easy to kill Phase 2 enemies.

Then kill the Golem and proceed to Phase 2 with no boss.

And no lose timer.

[serene hornet]

[pearl compass]

Wow flexing in strategy

[leaden sierra]

He's so close, any other way to buff the poor guy (obviously aak works, but I think he just needs a minor buff).

[pearl compass]

Who is that

Ah

So Long Adele dude

Can I ask why him exactly?

[scarlet fulcrum]

Just in case u "still" need it, this is day1 account that barely have a trust, all skill lv1

[leaden sierra]

No reason I'm just trying out Mon3tr buff on different offensive recovery ops. He does so much better with Pepe in the team, I need another Pepe

[glass monolith]

GG friend support - Based

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah random very pog in low lv

[lapis hornet]

e0 gg cracked af

[unkempt mirage]

@full stream ok you ain't lying, mon3 literally can 2 cycle it

So THAT'S how strong 3k def is 💀

[full stream]

good job

[unkempt mirage]

Thanks for the tip

[smoky halo]

pull p3 moster for 5% more atk

and p6 for 2/5 more aspd

👍

[leaden sierra]

I might actually do that ngl

[smoky halo]

:ya:

how broken are pots

[full stream]

Thorns alt pot 5 is genuinely pretty good

[smoky halo]

it is

but

its thornsalt

[full stream]

💔

[smoky halo]

good improvement on a mid op wcyd

[pure belfry]

Anybody got low end squad for H15-4?

Like, my account isn’t exactly shit, but this is rough lol

[hasty bluff]

Cleared with this

Surtr can probably replace logos for this case tho

You do need Virtuosa

[vocal leaf]

who killed boss?

[hasty bluff]

^+ logos for mini boss Mon3tr can hold it off for 2 cycles

[narrow pendant]

Yoir mom when she fell on it

[hasty bluff]

May wasn’t even e1 also

Comp if needed

[visual goblet]

Kal can deal with the toplane effectively.
Surtr for boss, mons3tr can kill mini boss

[pure belfry]

Hmm ok this looks doable

[narrow pendant]

Lvl90 gladia

[hasty bluff]

I made a oopsie back then

[pure belfry]

Forgot to mention I also have nymph. Could be good for stalling mini boss

[hasty bluff]

You kinda wanna kill it asap

[visual goblet]

If youe not cheesing it, theres a time limit

[still vessel]

kinda? you're forced to

[hasty bluff]

[pure belfry]

Will try that. I will need 2-3 phases tho at least. Laser and mini boss moving around gonna be annoying

[still vessel]

unless you're doing some oneshot setup just kill the miniboss as often as you can.

[hasty bluff]

Activate the tiles for lasers

[visual goblet]

It takes 4 phases for surtr alone to kill the boss

[hasty bluff]

3 phase Virtuosa + Logos 2 if ur lucky

[still vessel]

dp isn't ever an issue once you down the main boss once. free dp from it. keep activating the pads.

[pure belfry]

Oh does it nullify them?

[hasty bluff]

Iirc yeah?

[vocal leaf]

wdym your gladiia is not m9 lv90?

[visual goblet]

2 if you have surtr + ifrit

[pure belfry]

Cool thx

[hasty bluff]

Good luck don’t forget the timings for it

[pure belfry]

I can stack eyja on top for res shred

[narrow pendant]

Im not that mentally ill, you see...

[visual goblet]

That might bring it to 3, ifrit is a 40% shred

[pure belfry]

I don't have ifrit lol. My eyja does 20

[visual goblet]

Oh well

Gl

[pure belfry]

Thx. Will need it

[hasty bluff]

You got this

[narrow pendant]

Flat 20, not 20%

[pure belfry]

Whoops, right

[visual goblet]

Res is calculated as % isnt it?

So flat == % in this case

[narrow pendant]

But its important to differentiate

[pure belfry]

"Flat 20%" is technically not wrong, yes

Since res is percent based already

[visual goblet]

Ig

[narrow pendant]

Cuz when u put both flat and % then u get a problem

[hazy sinew]

unless enemy has 100 res flat 20 ≠ 20% of res

[south spindle]

tldr
RES is a % arts reduction
but RES itself can be changed linearly or multiplicatively

[visual goblet]

.... What. Me is confusion, but generally i see what you are saying

[visual goblet]

as in when is this ever the case

[south spindle]

Sakiko talent

ignores RES by a %

[visual goblet]

If res isnt a %, does it inherit defense formula or something

Otherwise, a % of a % can exist

[south spindle]

What?

read the first line i wrote

[pure belfry]

res is just a number, but it functions as a multiplier behind the scenes

[visual goblet]

Ok wrong reply mb, this

If it somehow became "linear"

[south spindle]

Ifrit reduces res linearly
Sakiko ignores it multiplicatively

[pure belfry]

so like 50% of 80 is 40. 40 is the number but it results in 40% arts reduction

[visual goblet]

Oh im just i thought you mean enemies can somehow have linear scaling res

[pure belfry]

gotta give it to the devs, I always found the math in skills to be explained very clearly

[south spindle]

Usually its fine

[pure belfry]

some other games make it very inconsistent

[south spindle]

but theres some inconsistencies

so i always

[visual goblet]

Howd h15-4 go @pure belfry

[south spindle]

triple check by testing

[pure belfry]

taking a break I'll continue tomorrow

[visual goblet]

Fair

[south spindle]

Now fun challenge calculate average Leizi2 S2 damage vs Tile expansion range

[pure belfry]

also waiting on surtr mastery still

[visual goblet]

Hmmmm

[pure belfry]

need to farm sugar 😭

big sugar drought rn, it's not in any nearby events (allegedly)

[visual goblet]

u have a big sweet tooth

[pure belfry]

not me, it's ice cream girl

[visual goblet]

icecream girl can never get enough ig

[pure belfry]

doesn't seem too hard. it's just her standard damage + lightning damage on top no?

[south spindle]

graph it

[pure belfry]

hmm

[south spindle]

her skill2 scales off lightning strikes during the skill

its not terrible but its not simple either

[pure belfry]

ohh ok that's interesting

sure I'll graph tomorrow looks fun

[south spindle]

ping me to check

[hasty bluff]

@split spire you can stall the golem on the top after you kill the boss while stalling the golem you can redeploy logos more downwards

Had mine here

[split spire]

Alright will try it

[hasty bluff]

Good luck

[split spire]

Thanks

[hasty bluff]

Oh funny enough I think Gummy can stall out the golem for the top

[split spire]

I havent upgraded her at all

[hasty bluff]

ah alr

[spring chasm]

How did you kill the boss?

[hasty bluff]

Virtuosa + logos

[spring chasm]

Ok uh that just one cycle the boss? I can get one instance of wailing before the miniboss just nukes everything in the map for me

[hasty bluff]

2-3 cycles of it mostly 3 tho

Mon3tr solos the boss 1 and 1/2 of the time

Kills first then gets away with half hp

Logos and Virtuosa then maul him to death again

Redeploy Mon3tr at the top to stall with Gummy and kill boss

When stalling redeploy logos and Virtuosa back more with a healer(I hate ranged enemy’s)

[spring chasm]

[hasty bluff]

Budget squad somewhat

Some ops were forced to sacrifice for the exploding drones so they don’t kill my other ops

[split spire]

@hasty bluff i finally did it after idk how many hundreds try thanks

[hasty bluff]

[waxen dagger]

https://youtu.be/uKxQFg8S6rk
this stage is very rude

[spring chasm]

anything I need to change for H15-4?

😔

[wary shuttle]

whats your plan for actually damaging the boss

[full terrace]

You need a Defender with low attack to stall a Golem. Muelsyse performance is lacking there you can sub her out.

Logos can draw the first blood on miniboss with a little help

[wary shuttle]

I mean that is a strong enough roster that you don't actually need to abuse the killgate

[full terrace]

You go try then, with the 7 mins time limit

He is here exactly because it doesnt work for him

And he is looking for a strat

Instead of saying "just bruteforce" how about you actually help him, like showing him how it is done in video for example

[fringe solstice]

I actually did it with the 7 mins time limit Killgate is much easier.

virtuosa s1 can beat the boss but requires 4-5 cycles

[full terrace]

With that squad? Cool now please record a video for the guy

[vocal leaf]

gladiia on mody is there holes in the stage?

[wary shuttle]

all the kit needs is better boss killing method, everything available has too little dph

this is gonna reduce to trying to instakill the boss robot to gain more hits

[spring chasm]

Logos and Ifrit

[vocal leaf]

you can borrow ceobe and have logos dps for midlane if needed

[wary shuttle]

ok option but could be better, lots of low damage hits in those kits from stuff like logos talent.

[spring chasm]

S2 or S3?

[full terrace]

Narantuya and Eyja can hold middle, Logos is best used for miniboss coz of Necrosis

[vocal leaf]

ceobe s2 logos s1, i did one cycle with the whole combo saria and suzu

[vocal leaf]

logos dot count as a hit against boss?

[wary shuttle]

probably

[full terrace]

Necrosis burst? I dont think so

I was about to say its best to use Virtuosa for the main boss

Coz she doesnt do normal attacks

[spring chasm]

Like that?

[acoustic slate]

wtf

[full terrace]

Thats pretty good to keep the boss's SP low