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both of them here to kill the robot?
I can build gladia+mod her
you can.borrow one tbh
yeah
or beef up you lane
then i won't be able to kill the robo
although it is easier to block the robot on the other node so you can reduce the def and res of robot
how about I put them here then kill the robot, then use ulpianus to finish the boss and then somehow end the stage?
mon3tr s3 can finish boss or robot, personally found it easier for mon3tr to finish boss
easier to use m3tr on big bot no 
wait let me check, ion think mine can
ion think mine can
you'll need 2 cycles
should be doable if you lvl to 60
i also should point out
there's a 3 op neckass m3tr kal for simulation on youtube if you want some inspiration
you could borrow and use mon3tr for robot. Might be easier if it doesn't 2 cycle
RIGHT I FORGOT
need to find someone with kal tho
my pepe not mastered yet so can't test cryga
too many unit on queue i went semi afk after her event

In theory Warfarin Ray one cycles if Ray lvl 90
In theory.
She should do exactly 100 more damage than necessary
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Lvl 89 does not work
Wait Warfarin buff only lasts 15 seconds
Ray skill 16
Might be cooked
wiki says lv 2 is 60% hp and 30% atk/def increase so probably 2 cycles 
whatcha guys doing? Trying to recreate Ray nuke without S1?
Aight thx
Anyone know how to clear dh stage 5 with this team?
Itās the summer event where you get tequila
a quick glance from me (a nobody) suggest to replace manticore with another vanguard to print dp
you have fang, so you can replace with vanilla
basically the goal is to set up your defenders all around the board then support with medics/casters based on the situation after the front line has been set up
vanguards
i reckon your front line (vanguards) above the blue box can slowly be replaced with mountain and specter after the intiial setup is finished while the backline near the bottom of map near blue box utilizes beagle and noir corne supported by casters
Iāve seen videos where people instantly place vanguards in later rounds to block for divers. Should I do that?
if youre leaking sure, its been years since i ran dh 5
basically if youre dropping to stall, its either to kill or delay for your defender to catch them
i dont know where youre leaking so im just throwing out generic tips here
your final setup will look like this, very closely similar
if you know where this is from, š
Alr ty bro
Imma try this out
hope you clear, if your ops are getting stat checked then maybe try to reverse the top and bottom landholders
or worst case just use support operator to carry
Ight I donāt see any healers tho? Are they below the guardians?
in between the two lanes
hibiscus and ansel
one is in front of steward, the other in front of lava
basically when the framework is finished and all your medics and casters and whatnot are down, replace the vanguards asap with your specter and mountain
ping me if anything goes horribly wrong, im heading out for a bit
Got it
if you didnt get it
Narantuya S1 borrow is very useful
Just E1 your fang or something so you can borrow a E1 Narantuya, very solid
How to beat 5-20 adverse
You have any other units aside from those?
@jovial rose have you cleared? I can guide you live if you need, Im free for a bit
Then the strat i recommend you use is to clear mobs and elites, then the boss. Though you will need a better healer for it, preferably borrowing something like Shu, Mon3tr or Nightingale, as Ptilopsis and Sussuro won't be enough.
Time to pull for monst3r with my last 10 
Now, how you deal with the mobs is pretty strict.
The Transforming mobs at the top-right, you'd want to transform them into Scouts. You can use Mountain to turn them into Scouts, then kill them with enough DPS, like Exu + other units. Do be wary that you don't wanna damage them before they transform.
do you mean 15-20? ulpianus s3 boss, block robot on the weakening node with logos and mlynar dps. Also exusiai isn't that good in chapter 15 since some enemies have more than 1k def
The golems are a little more straightforward, as you just need to kill them, and they're pretty slow.
Ill try
Though they do splash damage, so might have to kill them asap.
Logos, Chen and Degen should be enough to kill golems, i think.
Are the enemies never ending until i damage boss? Can i hold out?
Then you can use Ulpianus to kill the boss, as you'd want high DPH against the boss.
Nah.
Just clear all of them, then you focus the boss.
The boss does pack a punch, and that's why i suggest you borrow a healer.
cannot hold out for too long, automatic loss after 7 mins
Anyone i can borrow good healer from ? Should i just pull my last 10 on monster, im feeling lucky

After you clear the mobs, it should be enough time to clear the boss, no?
Since there's only like 30 of em.
Well...
Outside of that one enemy that summons stuff.
yeah I believe so
just cannot stall enemies. Edit: mb I forgot the timer is connected to the boss not the stage so yeah you can stall auto meal/shadow in snow/etc
You can delay yes, focus on the boss first
I keep losing because my defenders canāt take care of the dockmen at the bottom who somehow makes them unconscious or something idk but they just fall and look dizzy and I lose the game
I had the video of my gameplay but I donāt got nitro š
Did you do DH-4 with the guide?
DH-4 video taught you how to handle the anchor dude by sandwiching it with 2 operators
So that when one is stunned, the other blocks it
No, I finished it by myself. Itās just that dh 5 has a huge difficulty gap for me personally
I see
Iāll take that advice
DH-5 is just applying that technique
Also if you use the video you'd see the 2 Vanguards deployment at the end, it's for that purpose exactly
Ong itās the hardest stage because of how techy it is
Yea kind of lowk
But I have to deal with the stupid divers that snipe my snipers and spell casters
It's not a hard stage but yes there is a technique difficulty spike (for newbies)
Further event stages get even more technical btw, you should get yourself acquainted with the game mechanics
Exactly lol, itās so technical
Should I just do the dh 4 again?
To get the feel?
I feel like I just winged most stages
If you already did the stage, you can just watch the video to understand how the "sandwich" technique works
You are welcome and best of luck there
Yea itās been like 15 attempts prob just a me thing but Iāll keep trying
you want to just stream it to me, ill guide you (probably) successfully
Iāll prob do it tomorrow
Iām going to bed
ok
I feel like with Mons3r my default team has more healing than most missions need. Any recommendations on what a better general use team would be?
Also, unrelated to that, thinking of switching Elysium back to Myrtle. I feel like the quicker DP is more valuable than the lockdown.
First image is my pre-Mons3r team. Next two are my 6 stars and developed 5 stars.
Edit: wrong images in wrong order. See next message.
Here are the correct images in the correct order
For general content, use whatever you'd like honestly
Tho saria should be on s1
And switch ely to s1 too lol
0 reason to be on s2
Saria is now on s1 - older screenshot than I thought
Perhaps Iām missing content but
Shouldnāt we see your squad as it is now along with the roster
Thanks!

Flam? Buddy?
You okay
Did your net die
No I died bc I always go floor 4 net

I donāt get it though
Both the roster and team is shown on the ss bit higher

Oh i see it
Idk looks like 4 near-identical screenshots
I didnāt look too close 
The only difference between my now-squad and the screenshot is swapped Ptil for Mons3r, which I thought would be self-evident, and my saria had the wrong skill.
I didn't screenshot all of my 5s 'cause that felt excessive, but I can post them if you want them.
Nah itās fine
I just didnāt notice that one of those is the squad, I thought the first and second set were the same and mobile discord was being weird
In the first group of images I messed up, and can't seem to delete them. The second trio has my squad and no dupes in the roster
There, figured out how to remove the messed up ones
||enemy besides ansel won't go down to melee tile?||
aight thank you for the information
I feel like swapping elysium to Myrtle would be a waste, when Ines is there. Using s1 will help, as Fredi said. Beyond that itās overkill, Ulpianus and wisadel will solve 90% the stage in 90% of stages. Marcille is like a different flavor of eyja s2 if you felt like building her but itās whatever. Yu with s2 can be an interesting laneholder/cc hybrid type of guyš¤·āāļø up to you
||turns out we can leave it as is too||
I'm a dungeon meshi fan, so I really wouldn't mind an excuse to build her, but I know it probably isn't actually worth it. Surtr would probably be a better use of resources
Yeah but you have enough nukes tbh
I think youāre solidly in ābuild what you wantā territory unless/until you really chase meta for higher difficulty IS or something
Yeah, unfortunately my health doesn't let me play as consistently as I'd like, and chasing the meta isn't really a possibility : p
||does 15-5 hand put enemies at random?||
No, it always the same positions.
Learn them and put someone in advance to prevent them spawning.
Honestly can abuse robots for it
Artificer devices
rangers š¤£
Justice knight lancetš¬
Ling summon 
Did it. Since my monster and necrass aren't maxed, I need to be precise with the timings
trapmaster mines 
How do you guys deal with the heavy defenders 
Reunion one?
No im just trying to beat resource hunt stage 4 so i can begin mass upgrading my base

I need to do it without a support so i can just, leave it there while it plays
Everyone is doing fine until heavy defender spam
SK-4?
Yeah? I think that's the name
Bunch of heavy defenders so much that they just walk through 2 tanks
It's Reunion Defender, bruh
They have the same sign as my above on my name
Anyway, pretty much everything, honestly
Preferably Arts will take them down quickly.
As newbie, like you.
Is arts an operator?
Damage type.
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It's mostly Casters or Supporters class.
Alright, is arts a 3*?
Since i don remember much
Most cheap unit is Steward 3ā which can take them down with no prob.
Even not E1-55.
But according to my memory, there's high pressure with big crowd.
So it's even good to use Lava 3ā.
I see
You can take out both Defenders and weak troops simultaneously.
I will be doing those when my classes are over, maybe finally. I can start getting large money.
Since Sa and exu needs money
But learn: if you want to takedown someone with big shield or big heavy armor... use Arts damage.
Always.
Alright
It mostly a 90% case.
Thanks for the tip
I guess I'll need a lot of money and xp points
What am I doing wrong?
full roster in bio
You don't used Logos earlier and charge his skill, therefore some gets leaked.
Also, who will kill the boss?
You should deploy ranged ops first, THEN deploy Melee.
Otherwise FrostNova will prioritize killing your ranged FIRST.
And use SupportUnit
It's very hard to 3 Star with such roster.
It's possible tho
But better use.

Alright thanks!
heres what you can do
after you've dropped your kroos alter. you can retreat plume, to get more dp
then you deploy logos so you can charge his skill
or you can deploy kroos facing up so she can start pelting FN
do your ops have skill level 7
youre keeping plume for so long
as for midlane you should keep charging your tequila longer, he wants max charge for his skill
drop him behind cuora so he can take shots while FN is walking
and face him left so he can also hit the enemies cuora is blocking
bottom lane is leaking cuz the armored mob has higher def
better to have logos handle both bottom and middle 
then just aa sniper on fn
can skip out on the medics and blocker until later on when you have enough dp since logos kills every mobs
e1 40 logos handles it?
should be theres enough time before middle lane mobs start
Ops all have skill lv4
Got logos to skill lv7 now I'm so mad at this stage

How the fuck do I do this dude
Wooh thanks guys!!
Congrats
These bomb drones piss me off dude
No matter what my units just die even if I placed them in the correct deployment
Feater to shaw (bruh typo)
Rangers to kroos
Active thorns skill asap. Funny ah nostalgic stage
Surfer to gravel
What the hell are those wonders of game engineering 
One of old pathing feature 
bro what thats funny as hell
Probably same case like eunectes RA mod outside RA. Rainchan understand it better tbh
how tf are they getting stuck there
Well Eunectes was literally setting waypoint on herself and bringing its effect outside RA was someone on HG forgetting to properly reset flags. This is something new
it's a fence. it is not included in enemies' pathing
it's not their target blue box either so they can't interact with the one they are in
back when enemies only have 1 blue box path calculation 
Oh right fence because it is drone exit box
ya
Oh yea fence
virtually no enemy is supposed to get past that
Modern maps have actual walls around drone exits
but if u can force them in they can't get out
5 years till i realize there is fence there. Need some glasses
Can hoederer go toe to toe with talulah with mon3tr as heals?
Chalter took 4 years to realize water gun makes stage wet for her talent
maybe the best way to figure it out is trying it out
mhhh i guess so
Does silence work on talulah?
No.
You can check what abilities can be Silenced by black cross from the left of description.
Like from Explosive Spiders or Frost Drone.
alright
They did in fact destroy her
Pretty sure Hoederer could solo Talulah. You just need to deploy him two times cause he ain't surviving them fireballs.
man
what was your team
I can't feckin do it, I always get one shot by the robo cannon
that or when prts picks him up and goes around I can't outheal it
yo whats gladia's module and skill to solo the right side in 15-20?
it works with my s1m3 mody1 gladiia
don't know if you need that much though
S1M3
She may struggle when really solo with E2-60 using ModX. If you don't have Ulpipi, you can use ModY for pulling more hard and dealing more damage to them.
dam does it have to be M3?
i dont think so
Preferably. It'll determine how fast skill will charge.
ah
If you can provide only Sl7, you need some help 100%.
I tried s1m1 no work
At least someone.
Even slower works.
Perfect is Logos S1, facing right from middle stand.
Also kills the boss minion and trash mobs along the way.
My pleasure.
Ill record later
You need to delay deploymnets in the initial phase
Then drop all the healers and start te hospital at once
So you have enough defences against the bomb
@halcyon adder i can do ice breakers now
go ping him in #icebreaker-lockers
real
On 14-21 I got halfway through the stage and won what happened
Theresa triggers the Win condition after defeating Phase 2.
It's the only way you win.
Uhh sorry mine mostly done. Only bastion defence left
does anyone have Surtur? if so please add me want to kill the boss in IW9
what is your ID?
2-5 is fckng killing my enjoyment of this game
Whats a good solution for righy side 15 20 strategic simulation mode?
Gladiia.
ascalon solos
Top tile, facing down.
roster check
na we good i cleared it it was my fault
Gladiaa is leaking tho
S2?
yes
I used gladiaa plus ascalon s1 lol
need help with CE-5 autodeploy please.
Why? You shouldnāt be autodeploying CE-5
he said being dragged back to help where he can comment on sanity usage in peace
ive looked up and searches come up to ce-5 being the best sanity to lmd ratio. thats why im here xd
If you want to discuss more then #help would be more appropriate but there is a CE-6 and itās better, and itās also bad use of sanity to farm for exp/lmd
If you still want to autodeploy then Iāll leave you to it
#strategy is a holy place
If you exceed 7 mins with the boss still alive
Stationary bosses have time limits
ah
hmm team recommendations then for 15-20 simulation?
I always get to 28/29 but the time limit kills me
Are you using a support unit?
You could consider mon3tr s3 support as true dmg can bypass the high stats of the boss
she 2 cycles the boss
-# pepe burst works
Wait actually 
it was 2 cycle then
i just tried, its 1 cycle on normal, 2 cycles on adverse, 1 cycle on adverse with mon3tr s2
Ugg, I hated JT8-3, and H8-4 is just that but more annoying. Made worse by the knowledge that most people seem to find it easy.
Well I did them guideless so all I can say is never again will I do any strat demanding 2 fast redeploy baits
any other alternatives aside from gladiia when it comes to holding the right side on 15-20 simulation? mine is underleveled so it leaks every time (i think i'll just wait/borrow a maxed one if there's none)
Is it possible for me to do H15-4?
this looks easy for h3
I wanna say should, probably just wisadel brute force
okay I'll try again
ughh i hate h4 already
yeah that wasn't bad
There's a glimmer of hope you can clear it, although will need proper timing.
oh nah it's over. Wait I'll show you all my units
There's like 5 parts onto beating the stage.
Bottom path, which has most of the mobs.
Two middle paths, whic has the transforming mobs and drones.
Top path which has golems.
The boss walking around the map.
And the boss at the left side.
I need something to dmg the boss
You stall and kill the boss on loop on either top path or bottom path, preferably bottom, since it has the most enemies.
But top path means you can set up stuff a little bit longer.
why is my yu + gg lapp not killing the boss
They got high def n res also not good to use multi hits low dmg dps
and the timer ran out
each hit on boss recharges the mimic
what unit would you put on the left side to kill the boss?
2 units enough. M3 logos cycles
Your units won't really cut it to kill the boss.
umm so i need kaltsit okay
I don't think it's enough, since it's lvl60.
I think it's better he use Logos to spawn kill the walking boss.
Use logos s2
It stops it from moving and it can't die from it. Also charges hella fast
Then probably borrow a Ray to DPS the boss.
M3 complement the remaining dmg. Any high dph kill boss
can warfarin buff monster
Yes. But your worry should be killing the main boss
what about this??
oh wait theres no melee tile for monster
nevermind I messed up my timing
Look at your ops and see which deals with the main boss best
Logoos would be my best unit for it
Should only be 1 or two ops. Since damage is tied down to hits
schwarz is also good for this boss right
It's one of the rare case where more DPS != more damage on the boss
Schwarz should work
Need maxed out tho and ideally some more buff
I tried but I couldn't get it in 2 cycles. so I defaulted to wisadel
In theory it should work.
for reference my schwarz is e2 70 m3 no mod
the timer is so annoying
just ray it
logos can take care of middle lane while mon3ter 2-3 cycles the boss
oh shit it's not 15-20 my bad 
if your logos is s2m3 it'll be easier but if not it's fine
Just make sure he doesn't die
he's s3m3
not too sure if s3m3 is better than s2l7 for boss killing
is there even a true ranged dps
ye
you can directly share the profile by clicking the three lines and finding it in settings
there found it
this works i think
is there anything that can buff her here?
you can position her at the bottom then warf
Wis adel she helps so much
do you have problems with right side?
nope I use logos for it tho
nm
where's your shu
using her for the loop on the bottom left
yeah...
where's virtuosa
the other unit died
id suggest you borrow an ifrit and see how she and logos deals with the boss
I'm not even using her at all
only problemis the boss
Wis adel
oh
^
can you try this?
okay
Gonna be hard to find an Ifrit on support.
okay I've never tried ifrit
she has res reduction which helps a ton with logos
feels like thorns isn't going to do much here
yeah he kinda useless
i don't think he has better options for ops lok
you got ifrit that I can borrow
trackpad reduce res and defense so it imrpoves your damage a lot
^
look in #friend-id or #help
I thought thorns does like 0 dmg
to the boss
does anyone attack the left side ranged tiles btw
Wis adel
yeah amiya dies
oof
HybridX#6216
might be troublesome to keep them alive then
because you'd want to use ifrit s3 to have even more res shred but she loses hp
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oh that won't work
this is so hard
I just need one unit that can heal + buff
normally yes. im talking mimic btw. thorns dmg would be from the arts talent. mimic is ranged p sure so the talent deals double dmage. thats 1k arts vs 37.5 res when pad is turned on so 600~ dps
maybe you can put a healer there to help ifrit?
yeah I can try
and not like you have better ops lying around
im pretty sure he counts as ground location
that is true
idk if low altitude counts
hmmm @uncut ferry how would I defend the left side
as in ranged enemies is just ranged vs melee thing
if I don't have wis del
not about where they are positioned
left or middle
middle
oh if that's the case that's fine
I'm not too sure 
maybe nymph can help
there's also mon3tr to support a dps there or deal tdmg
i honestly think wisadel is fine
and just have logos fully hitting the main boss solo
oh
ohhhhh
ifrit borrow is for main boss
wait how would the boss get damaged
so ifrit lowers res
wdym
oh okay
logos damage is hitting for good now
that's why
take down the mimic
the main boss has shit ton of res
ifrit doubles your damage
i think place ifrit on the bottom left ranged role
oh I didn't know that
tile not role
ifrit logos = main boss
m3 nymph silverash thorns = all hit mimic
dont spam all skills at once tho. you want to cycle them so you dont overkill
might as well add amiya for mimic too
this might work
red for ifrit blue for logos green for a healer
maybe you can place mon3tr there and have her use s3 when ifrit isn't being used?
shu on the bottom as well right
then I use Sa and thorns to help protect the middle
i guess you dont have much better ground so yu needed there
should be fine tho yu is just some little extra damage anyway
oh yeah you can also just like
place ifrit once the boss is down too
but maybe the res shred won't be enough
Just try it first
just passive is good enough
dont need to ifrit s3 cuz
s3 hits every second
and while yes you get like extra 11 res down
oh
logos hit for less time
oh true yeah
dont even activate her skill 
so i don't think you need to worry about ifrit
where would I put shu?
place logos down like 15 seconds before mimic dies
then immediately place ifri and activate logos skill
ur previous position is fine. but if you want you could setup
at the right of the pad thing
tho wait until the mimic hits that tile
so you could reduce its defense/res
pad helps alot
yeah I tried that place on the bottom left
50% defense down and 50% res down is really really high
make sure to helidrop the shu after mimic reach that tile first tho
else the mimic doesnt get hit by the debuff
this is pretty hard okay I try again
I might just put it on the bottom right
thorns dies so fast
I used silverash s3 after the first two. maybe use nymph for the first two 
to which exactly ur having issues with. leaking the crystal thing?
but yeah use silverash
yeah mimic hits hard. I would wait a bit for the mimic to move to the right first
they die cuz targeted by boss. either heal or bait
id assume die from the sphere thingy right
bait it . it targets closest allies
you can use your gravel
does it every 10s or so
not sure the exact cd
but baiting it once should be enough
since it moves to the right and then should onnly target shu
yeah this is annoying
this stage is surprisingly very hard for how easy the rest of the stages are
the crystals change form depending on how you interact with them
if you block them with an operator, they turn into the cancer block avoid enemies
if you hit them with arts or physical damage 4 times before blocking, they turn into regular enemies
i recommend using either a ranged guard supported by dps ops to deal with them, or just ranged dps since they stand there for a while
yeah that's why there turning into the cancer block avoid enemies
sorry if you already did this but mind if i see your op list
How to beat this?
mm it might be pretty hard for your ops
yeah I think it might be time to give up
dam I took it down to half
I think the timer going to kill me now tho
can't you see the timer at all?
doesn't the timer like take quite long to trigger
-> ranged dps to deal with the boss, high dph (probably a support ray)
-> strong dps to deal with the mimic, preferrably enough to kill it repeatedly before it can move or do the laser attack
-> ops to hold the middle two lanes
-> strong lanehold at the bottom for the golems
in how many cycles
wtf
The issue when I use ifrit is stuff leaks in the middle, so I'll probably get 1 star, but I still didn't kill the boss
you could try something like this
top right should be enough to kill and keep mimic in place, and help sa deal w the middle
thorns should be enough on his own with s3 trigger
monster s3 can help yu w waveclear and golems
im just not sure if ray alone can dps boss
since sometimes she will hit the mobs spawning from the boxes
okay let's try this now
- will always have low ammo
Someone spoon feed the strat for dh stages 5. Iāve been losing that stage for a day now. Hereās my ops
Iāve watched yt vid and I still get cooked š
what stage?
Dh-5
im not sure what that is
The one where you get tequila
the summer event?
Yea
For a newbie like me the difficulty spike between stage 4 and 5 was huge
you have ray?
i do yes
could I add you
umm i have almost no memory of this sorry
šš
sure, anima#5988
do u want to clear this just for tequila
added
Yea
umm
And to beat it using my team
i assume you're very new given the squad, you could try just leveling a little bit more
and you should be okay, early game you progress pretty quickly
they give you a lot of resources from missions and stuff
So focus on story first?
should be up
main story is always a good place to go
okay let's try this
Ight, itās just that I was expected to get tequila early on
is there a reason you want tequila specifically?
Light told me he would be rlly good
It is easier with more arts dps. The idea of mudrock is to tank explosions and attack drones, and Saria is for blocking and healing. Suzuran and goldenglow are replaceable. It depends on what you have.
logos s1
Yo this looks lowk good
he is quite good, but there are plenty of other strong operators as well
this is super cool, what tool is this?
what would I place first?
I just want to 3 star the stage. Itās an ego thing cuz I donāt wanna give up on something that takes a day of my time
after vanguards/sp gen to block first enemies in the bottom, logos/shu, then silverash and thorns to block middle 2, then bottom
fair enough, in that case you could try quickly e1 any of your operators
that allows you to use e1 support operators
an e1 80 dps should be able to steamroll stages of that difficulty
i am guessing he doesnt wanna use guide cause there is a e0 lvl 1 guide that use 2/3* only for dh 5
Seems like overkill
yeah nah my SA just loves dying
the problem you are facing right now is the low leveled ops you have
no wonder stuck for a day
I have, I just canāt seem to micromanage well
But Iāve seen people do it with lvl 1
im not sure
I could prob send gameplay but I donāt got nitro
huh
is your ops e0 have sl4 equipped?
unfort, it might be a level thing as well. my strat is also definitely not the bets one out there
the e0 lvl 1 stuff is specifically due to sticker abuse, that event's sticker mechanic helps a lot
Whatās sl4?
dont tell me its sl1
I don't got resources to make them level 90 š
iirc someone used logos support to clear dh-5, his s1 is just that broken even at e0 max
It helps if you don't have steward and lava raised to e1 yet
skill level
an e1 80 support dps*, you can borrow other people's operators at the same promotion stage (eg if your highest op is e1, you can borrow up to e1 max)
those who play e0 know what they are doing and i bet they have all sl4 on their ops
Ight, Iāll grind for now but is it bad that I canāt lowk complete the stage rn? Like lowk I feel like itās a skill issue
I wish I could use mon3tr s3 on the boss
not at all, you're new to the game and as long as ur having fun doing whatever u wanna do then ur playing it right
skill lvl and trust point
i forgot to mention trust too :icant:
levels dont make a huge difference at a certain point, skill mastery matters a lot more, not to mention you're a bit limited by operator pool
see if amiya doesn't die
my strategy is also definitely not the best one
I think I win this stage
sure
Ight ty
HG did fixed the phase transition on H15-4, now I cannot abuse the golems.

Looks like I need new setup.
I dont have mudrock, suzudan and golden glow 
Unrelated note but isnāt that link from that one ytuber guy named terminal?
uhh the pfp is from a dude named terminalmontage
what operators do you have? goldenglow and suzuran are very replaceable.
I think it triggered by the bottom golem instead of the top golem so yeah I think they fixed it
Nah, Phase 2 still going immediately after dropping boss down even if bottom golem still alive.

I saw.
rip
perfumer should be enough
iirc the deployment order is vanguard, thorns, chen, ptilopsis, yu, logos, perfumer, mountain, ulpianus
also if logos doesn't kill fast enough you can bring robot to tank tornado
15-20 or H15-4?
Is arts or phys better against prts?
Neither. Strong in both defensive stat:
DEF: 3000
RES: 75
It's better to use True or Elemental. Also the option to use DEF or RES ignore/shred units to make him weaken to those types.
Or just use Ray or Surtr (or even better - both) - it's fucking simple and still reliable, like me.

I used ceobe plus mon3r plus texas s2 in 15 20
Monsta could solo the boss alone in 15-20.
On H15-4 you will probably struggle, there's no melee tiles close to boss.
can ray solo h15-4
U mean the boss? Sure it takes a few cycle but doable
Holy hell.. H stages are brutal 
Now I kinda believe stage still getting harder over time.
Against PRTS boss? 3 cycles, yeah.
well I would say it isn't so bad if you have elemental or true damage. H15-4 is brutal tho.
Theres a kill gate btw so just abuse it and get the boss first
H15-4
You'll need at least 6 full cycles with maxed out Ray.
Either weaken the boss to kill him fast, or use one more unit to DPS.
Cant say
First tried it so cant be that hard
Maybe the biggest kick in the balls is inability to use ground ops to kill it
Since no tile to deploy close
But just get good
But I suck.
But u r good player
So uh whatās the strat for dps for H-4 
Mon3r

U cant
Hit the enemy really hard with one buffed DPS, and make sure everyone else who's important stays alive. 
Also Logos can probably do it?
Mine died in the middle of the run, but I'm pretty sure I didn't have the most optimized of runs.
There's no killgate anymore!
š„¹
Ill try thanks
Logos can solo the boss?
He was responsible for a good 70-90% of the damage done to the boss in my run, so. 
Can monstr s3 and logos (which skill?) beat him 1st cycle?
On H15-4 you cannot use Monsta against the PRTS.
Ohh, why is that? 
Use Monsta S2 and Logos S2.
Do you see any Melee tile?
Ah
Around the boss
U cant use 99% of melee ops against h4

Only stuff like stinky surtr or stinky lords reach over
Looks like I won't be able to clear h4
I'll just wait and see if any low end squad guide comes out or not
Even if they'll released, it's at least two SixStars will be used.
Abysasl Hunters lost before the stage even begin
Well, then it's a lost cause for me
fun fact CN is 6 months ahead
what's the point of the pillars if they don't block the routes? the rubble gets removed by the mobs
Disables the protection of the boss.
To remove mandra's shield, they also deal true dmg. Rerouting mobs migt be easier for lazy clear
Mandra can also knock pillars as well, so do beware.
2nd phase yea, only if there is ops in pillar's knock range
yeah I found out about that quick xD
nice
Tips for people doing H15-4, you can abuse the killgate
Ah idk if I wanna make Low-End clear for this
omagah it's john no investmentguide
Too much dps check
run ceombo
What's killgate? 
Killgate is killgate

i think it means that all the enemies need to be killed for next wave
Ohhh
giving you time to get your ops ready
Thank you
Better Logos S2SL7, or S3M3 for this?
I would vote for S2, if you'll DPS.
This was hard af
How many ray activations? Also who killed the miniboss?
I used three, but I used Surtr on first dropoff.
Miniboss was killed by Logos S2, then I struggled to use Monsta S3, so I used Ines talent and Degen S3
At first dropoff.
Then it's Kal' Monsta
S3.
Hmm?

Miniboss is very tanky too
If you dealt about 30% HP damage, the Hand will drop the miniboss earlier.
Phys does not do anything
Cuz hes got the same stats as the big boss
75 res 3k def
So u need string hitters
how much hp?
PRTS 60k, Mimic 30k.
Kinda sucks how both walter mlynar goy no def shred
wtf the dog has half the hp of the boss š
What is one to do to deal with 6-5 i had two plans one involved dealing with enraged possessed solider and leader befor reaching my back line which failed and another which depened on keeping my backline alive with two healers but both failed even and now i dont know what to do when i watched a youtube video he did exactly what i did but put coura who soaked up the dmg somehow but all the units i borrow also fall short and i dont understand y

its 96k
We don't either by just you yapping.
Show us your squad.
pretty sure simulation 2 is also the same 
Yes dude i even deploy her only after i place pito
Exactly she dies in three hits with support
There's too much ranged ops. I would suggest do what I said:
- Silence goes bottom looking up, Ptilo at same row facing down, put Saria and Beagle on both sides. That would should prevent Enraged Ranged Zombies kill your ops on the spot.
Ok but how do i deal with the ground zombies
That's the tricky part.
Lappland could help killing Zombies Defenders inside the square of Med-Defs
But for Enraged, you should them delay as much as possible.
Dont u have tequila raised?
Yes
DPS him or control them endlessly.
ntrk barely doesnt do enough damage to kill it
same with schwarz
Then use him, deploy on fence
Ptilo uses S2
Silence prob S2
Beagle technically tanks left side better on skill
Teq can dps most of enemy health bars
I did not enough to kill
Stall with gravel
Or enough to stop in the later part
E1 gravel to unlock her better skill
I tried that
Oh
Is ur tequila on skill lv7?
Yes
Could place tequila in the cage beside the possessed melee spawn facing right everytime they spawn stall with gravel and active teq
You mean the bottom left fence right
Red u want dps it
The one beside lamp yea
I will try e1 gravel and that and will be back with the results
But i gotta farm specialist chips so this is gonna be a moment
Its worth it, gravel also give u 35% gold boost at e1
Also u can change vigna to another cheap meat, like corne for example
Vigna fine can let her take 2 spears then retreat for saria
Fang can do that
mlynar doing this š¤ damage to prts 
gotta pull out debuff
thornsalt 
How can u debuff PRTS with thorns alt tho?
Ya uncle sucked in this chap

Kinda crazy how surtr still seeing usage in 2025
Surtr is Wisadel of year 1
thatās the point you probably canāt, he was the only option in maleknights, i will just play meta then
Btw can zuo le solo the golems?
thanks
barely cleared it thanks to mon3 
could literally see her shield coming back up 
The fuck do you mean no killgate anymore its literally there
WTF
Why mine didn't work?!
Golem alive, dropped the boss
MUSIC CHANGED
Really bruh
if golem alr spawned before boss died then you missed killgate
or atleast thats how normal killgates work when not affected by special triggers
How u killing boss this fast?
So yes?
Just keep killing the mimic
Then kill the mimic faster
Bruh, maybe the case.
Let me try again.
Looks like i will need mon3r
it could be one cycle if i change the direction of logos 
Am i seeing hoegoat tanking without medic?
Alr, it's REALLY drop boss FASTER before Golem arrives.

@dapper hedge pat-pat you both
@elder flume
Same as normal killgate then
itās almost the same, slightly worse, i thought the extra damage would compensate
or is this per hit or something?
Per hit

-1 sec to turn on again
Better use less, but strong hits.
Consider using S3 ReedAlter
hmm no, i go back to suzu and this time will use saria s3 
How broken is doggo
always has been
1 cycle
saria will never get powercreep, she still has a niche
Tried this stage:
- Dont have enough damage to kill the boss in 2 cycle.
- Drone leaked at mid
Bit tired
ahaha
guess I'll just grab suzuran s3, skalter s3 and use ifrit s3 and ceobe s2
should two cycle kill it
oh, and I'll borrow ines for the quick bind on the mimic
How to do this stage without bruteforcing it?
pain
it's the kay officient
Ah yes, no need to read what boss does if there is no boss
Who did mon3r buff here?
no one, probably not significant
Ulpipi tanking golems like a chad
Arts is much easier than physical looks like
Ray honestly has pretty low total skill dmg
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