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regal frost
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try check wiki

steel cove
jovial nest
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its all football

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not in expert

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you got all the reds

fickle ravine
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Reeeeee

jovial nest
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try beginner football first to get the blue shirt ones

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see if yellow shirt's in the regular diff

sly drift
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Narantuya S1 is goated for clearing those mobs
Or Logos S1 to immediately send them to shadow realm in one hit

steel cove
jovial nest
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no

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its purely random

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goals = more maps spawned, more chances to spawn multiple different enemies

steel cove
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So i can find them even in 0-0 ?

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So it needs to be in beginner yeah?

jovial nest
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beginner you might as well just destroy the enemy

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it's faster to goal yourself than let the enemy goal

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same with regular imo

steel cove
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Okay i’ll try to find them thanks

desert siren
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Football advance

winter olive
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@south spindle

glass monolith
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Why not just link it for love of God if you have it set up? HellaHands

south spindle
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Mate the point of krooster account is to just link it

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😔

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Setting icon top left

winter olive
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Ohhh

south spindle
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Your link will be top of page

winter olive
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So far I've begun by taking two flag vanguards, ines and bagpipe then putting mountain

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Then after the boss locks my units I wait a bit then deploy two medics in the middle and eyja protecting the right side

glass monolith
winter olive
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Since the vanguards are on that side too they trigger the blob into the infiltrator type and eyja kills them

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But sometimes the boss wanders into her range making her lose the skill attacks and then she can't kill them in one go

winter olive
winter olive
warped smelt
pearl compass
errant hawk
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@full stream
This is the main team i am working with i dont have any other significant units beside click amiya scavenger and methina

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Oh and catapult

errant hawk
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I can kill two through setting up the s2 SA with hibisus support and another with teq
But that leaves the core with only fang, spot (near dead) and saria

full stream
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or u cant even get to that aprt yet?

errant hawk
errant hawk
full stream
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u can put teq ontop of the bot right caster and active skill before the breaker gets to blue box killing both the caster and breaker

errant hawk
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I can do that i have the resources
But how would that change stuff

full stream
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then u can land hold the other casters with spot and kroos

glass monolith
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level 3? CeobeConfused Skill level is decent chunk of what makes skills useful, might be overwhelming at start, but white/green skill books just keep coming while main choke point is blue books

full stream
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u can retreat teq and let silver(same place as teq facing up) kill the top right caster with s1 out of range

errant hawk
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The left two want to go to the right point right?

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If so then yeah this can work

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Great i will try that thank you a lot

elder flume
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they circle around

full stream
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they went up down the bot right box

elder flume
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oh enemy 31 32?

full stream
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@errant hawk

warped smelt
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Which stage he need help?

full stream
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I forgot to account for the silver ash frd (anyway use s1) to kill the red caster

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5-3

warped smelt
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Oh this stage

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He can use yato alter

full stream
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He doesn't wanna borrow

warped smelt
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i see

full stream
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I alr suggested that

pearl compass
full stream
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ChillsDocSmile

pearl compass
full stream
errant hawk
full stream
errant hawk
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Cool

full stream
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also dont heal teq with drone i was sweating for 0 save it for spot

warped smelt
errant hawk
full stream
warped smelt
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You can use s1

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Level 7 is enough

full stream
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not even lvl 7 i think lvl4 is cool

errant hawk
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I see

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I need to read what skills do again

warped smelt
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@errant hawk

errant hawk
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But out of curiosity
Why does yato alter do to trivialize this level?

full stream
errant hawk
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Oh

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Thats pretty cool

void terrace
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Damn elabananana somehow made it through the whole chapter with me

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Honestly its such a hasstle using her tho

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If only you could choose which tile her super minion deplpoys on

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Its always a bit finicky

warped smelt
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But she's doing this randomly

hazy sinew
full stream
hazy sinew
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nah

full stream
winter olive
warped smelt
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Just physical damage

winter olive
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No set up? Did Aak shoot her and retreat or smth?

warped smelt
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no

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Just pepe s3

winter olive
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Now to check if I have a friend with her SkadiDaijoubu

warped smelt
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With level 90

winter olive
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I don't think I have a friend with her

warped smelt
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i don't have her

wary ridge
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Man what is this nonsense

narrow pendant
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Fun

hasty bluff
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Borrow a certain cockroach SkadiDaijoubu

full stream
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This boss is one the clearable event bosses with only 3*(it's a hassle tho)

honest jacinth
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How to clear 15-15? I tried wisadel, and sure enough she clears one side, but not the other
I tried lapipi decanza and it seems promising but then she dies to the casters she creates

pearl compass
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Easily killable by Yu S2.

lapis hornet
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surely ulpi gladia can take care of one side

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add another dps if lacking

honest jacinth
lapis hornet
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wis the other

honest jacinth
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I'm not rich

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I thought this was supposed to be #strategy, not "6* operator everything"

lapis hornet
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bro wad

honest jacinth
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I don't have wisadel or ulpianus

wary ridge
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Wow, cockroach lady veri stronk

lapis hornet
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you can just tank and spank right side

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no need ulpi

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think they all go left at first

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just put wis left

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if you want pure 3-4* then idk

wary ridge
honest jacinth
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I just looked up a guide instead that uses shaw and a slow supporter

warped smelt
honest jacinth
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Nuclear bomb vs cockroach

lapis hornet
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slows good if you don't have enough dmg vs the no block dudes

honest jacinth
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I'm just kinda complaining that the advice is just "put down a unit that deals enough damage to kill them and another unit to tank them" as if I didn't try that lol

lapis hornet
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you're the one who bought up wis and lapp2 o don't know your roster brah

honest jacinth
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did you not read the words that surrounded the mentions of wis and lapalter

lapis hornet
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....

graceful bear
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Is it worth dusting off Schwarz for 15-20 since she does well against high DEF enemies and has a long attack interval?

hasty bluff
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Useable SkadiDaijoubu

astral cosmos
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doesn't seem worth it

graceful bear
astral cosmos
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I have no clue what that stage is

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but dusting off an old unit just for one stage seems

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questionable

sick flare
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15-20 is the boss stage innit

astral cosmos
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unless you ooze resources

graceful bear
astral cosmos
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oh

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then try lol

lapis hornet
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this much dmg in one cycle

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actually could be funny lol

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monster/virtuosa probs easier tho

still vessel
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Monster 2 cycles and virtuosa isn’t far behind

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Kal is the only other contender if talking single ops.

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Otherwise you could shamare it and use wis

fickle ravine
winter olive
winter olive
void terrace
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Wait

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How good is monsters s2

fervent heron
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very

void terrace
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Its not as good as s3 but it looks like a very big aspd buff

fervent heron
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Its 56 atkspd which is more thing kings lance relic from IS

void terrace
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I was thinking warf plus monster plus lappunemployed

fervent heron
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by a smidge

void terrace
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The issue its conditional on the op being healed right

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Or can it just bounce even if no healing is made

fervent heron
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Mon3ter, Lapp alter, Yu has been my combo ever since i've gotten it

void terrace
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Damn

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Wait but does it provide the buff even if the opp is max hp

still vessel
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Yes

fervent heron
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Bounces due to how crystal being constantly being damaged

void terrace
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Bruhhhh

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Thats busted as crap

fervent heron
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just be wary of deployment order, i've had moments where I accidentally gave the buff to someone who didn't need the atkspd buff

void terrace
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Thats half of aak buff

glass monolith
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Didn't knew Bounce medic needed only 1 target to bounce to rest of people

void terrace
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Basiaclly aak buff without the atk boost

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Wait she literally gives

narrow pendant
fervent heron
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you get an atk buff

void terrace
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15% atk too

narrow pendant
fervent heron
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if next to crystal

void terrace
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Basically lappdumb superturret time

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Now to somehow unload aak buff onto her at the same time

narrow pendant
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S2 is better for most things, better healing, aspd buff, good cycle

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S3 has the true dmg and higher bursts of healing, yes

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But true dmg is bit niche, and she cant heal if no targets

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And since u cant deactivate it, other ops near can die

void terrace
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Ive been using her as a solo deployment near front lines

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To just take pressure off

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Or to just shore up my backline and swap to damage when a boss comes

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She just soloed prts boss

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By camping next to it

narrow pendant
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Well shes good for the boss yes

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Cuz 3k def and 75 res

void terrace
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Wait

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Also s2 can affect

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Multiple targets cant it

fervent heron
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yes

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three units can get the atkspd buff

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so you can have both lappalter and GG

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go pew pew

narrow pendant
void terrace
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Thats kinda super BS

narrow pendant
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So if u have good spacing, u can affect like 6 ops

void terrace
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BRUH

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Thats basically IS level buff

vagrant wren
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My app isn't loading previous chats for some reason, but big thanks to everyone who gave me advice for JT8-3. Finally cracked that nut

fervent heron
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It is

narrow pendant
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It needs bit of practice and understanding the targeting tho but

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Yk

fervent heron
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King's Lance Relic gives 50 Atkspd at 1 hp in IS, M3S2 Mon3ter gives 56 which is a tiny bit more

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which is crazy

void terrace
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The real bullshit is we can now get 100+ atk speed easily

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Outside of IS

narrow pendant
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Tho with a way to guarantee chalice+toy

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Its not that crazy

void terrace
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Aak plus mons3r plus shu

narrow pendant
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But yes

narrow pendant
void terrace
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Its time for the ultimate surtr

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Or mylnar

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OH WAIT GNOSIS

narrow pendant
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Monster s2 alone almost triples surtrs s3 dmg btw🥱

void terrace
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How much aspd does he need to perma freeze again?

narrow pendant
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76

void terrace
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🙂

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Gnosis time

narrow pendant
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🥀

void terrace
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56 from mons3r, 12 from shu passive

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25 from shu s3

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Or jusr like 12 from saileach

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Can anyone test?

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That basically means gnosis can perma freeze

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And he can use s3 to cover the downtime of monster s2

narrow pendant
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So much slots for something useless

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🥹

void terrace
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But funny

narrow pendant
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Dont cook brother

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Its wasted food

void terrace
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When u got all ops

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You get bored fast

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Perma freeze gonna be fun

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Which bosses are freezable

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Steam knight?

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Patriot

narrow pendant
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Bad thing everyone and their mother is freeze immune these days

void terrace
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Ikr

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If only bind

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Hmm

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Qiubai s1

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But cycling is hard

narrow pendant
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When it comes to using aspd for binding, ud habe more luck with ethan methink

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The higher base atk interval, the more ops benefit from aspd

void terrace
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A bit of rng with ethanntho

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Qiubai csn guarantee

thorn zinc
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Wtf am i supposed to do on 9-19

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Ive been on this level for hours now and nothing works

astral cosmos
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you're using the pillars yeah

thorn zinc
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Ok i finally got it

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Only took me 2 hours

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Man i suck

tiny smelt
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Hi guys quick question. I just grabbed monster and I generally run goldenglow + lap alter for my damage. Very excited to have her for the damage and attack speed boost. However I run shu currently as my main defender. Her sowing gets in the way of monster's heal chains since it heals her summon. Would you recommend moving off of shu to using saria / nian / yu as my primary defender because of this issue?

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Or maybe shift her off of using s3?

still vessel
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No

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Just place shu and monster on opposite ends so the spine doesn’t get inside the sowed tile

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And both of them healing is kinda overkill

eager turtle
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guys idk what to do on 15-20 i can barely stand the right side of the map, had to deal with the boss on the left...

maiden hound
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top rigth falcing down

eager turtle
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how to deal with the golens? the splash is killing everyone

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also, tried to use Amiya to kill the boss on the left, but she takes to long to charge and redeploy

maiden hound
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virtuosa (or if you're broke, valarqvin) can handle all leftside including boss

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but i think you need near-max investment for that

hasty bluff
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Mon3tr could solo golem + boss dmg, gladia right side with help from Ethan/Ascalon and mid just needs a good holder decided to go for ulpianis with any healer paired just so he survives before S2 procs

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Good luck tho SkadiDaijoubu

lunar olive
south spindle
serene hornet
lunar olive
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and trust

south spindle
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Maybe

lunar olive
south spindle
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foo?

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Ld?

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😭

lunar olive
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drugs

south spindle
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You're losing me

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Like 6 days of sanity

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good luck

lunar olive
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and who said a shi about coagulating lmao

brisk surge
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It's extremely inefficient anyways shrug

lunar olive
south spindle
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Im just joking about the coagulating

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Because farming 15-3 has like 0 upsides what so evr 😭

lunar olive
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it gives u +3k lmd

brisk surge
south spindle
lunar olive
maiden hound
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mfs just be farming whatever....

brisk surge
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Oh you know

tribal gorge
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I havent played since 2022 i think

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was i cooking with this team

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or should i invest more in something else

scarlet fulcrum
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The feeling when i had my first full pot operator called Grani

keen flower
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Mlynar and the waifusExuHyperStare

lunar olive
tribal gorge
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but after i grind all the side missions

lunar olive
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id'say you should level up nightingale and sailech with time, and focus on leveling the units you alraedy have e1 or level up to level max

lunar olive
south spindle
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Wouldn’t roll on anything until Exu2 banner

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Do you have 6* voucher in depot

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You’re lacking damage

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Saileach is not prio at all

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Grab Tequila and Kroos2 from side stories too

tribal gorge
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Hmm okay

south spindle
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Also #help for general questions

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This channels mainly for stages

tribal gorge
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Oh okay my bad

south spindle
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No worries

lunar olive
scarlet fulcrum
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Its more surprising ppl farming this

south spindle
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I don’t think they are

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If anything would suggest focusing on the actual farm stages

signal vector
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any tips to unlock auto deploy for 15-9?
this is my squad

maiden hound
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...not use a borrow?

willow sun
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auto-deploy can't have a borrow

wintry gulch
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yeah he needs auto

willow sun
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lemme make a clear rq

wintry gulch
maiden hound
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don't need gravel for bait I think

wintry gulch
willow sun
signal vector
willow sun
signal vector
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I have enough mats for s1 but currently low on LMD

lunar olive
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swap texas and platinum with ur sniper and vanguard

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and should work

signal vector
# lunar olive

yea I dont have texas
do I need to put like my entire roster up?

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cause yea the squad is what I mainly use but I have other ops that I havent upgrade yet

lunar olive
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u can do with 5-man just like these i expect, if not u just might be missin a bit of dps from ur logos so u can go for 1 more dps char

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the logos i borrow has no mod so its kinda the same as yours

signal vector
signal vector
lunar olive
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no masteries too

signal vector
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alr

willow sun
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if logos doesn't do enough damage or lowrolls on rng you can place down m3's summon next to him for the extra attack buff, or put down specter/blaze to deal some extra damage/block enemies

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also use blue poison's skill earlier than i did, still no guarantee the drones will die though cause kroos has crit rng, to be safe bring another ranged op to help them out

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the logos i used was e2 90 sl7 nomod

signal vector
lunar olive
willow sun
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why are we farming any stage that isn't 15-9

signal vector
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uh yeah, I need my BP and kroos to be a bit stronger

willow sun
acoustic slate
signal vector
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yea I'm bringing in a 4th marksman (why are my aa so god damn weak)

willow sun
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no the drones are just tanky as hell 🥹

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at the end of the stage you can put down thorns to help them as well

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after the little buggies die

maiden hound
willow sun
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im borrowing to imitate sl7

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since mine is e2 90 m3

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trying to make it as similar as possible

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cause level matters a lot here

signal vector
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yea it's working, I just gotta get more AA:(

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or make my AAs stronger, or yea bring thorns in for help at the end

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cause man, these drones are tanky as hell

topaz tapir
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Not exactly sure on how I do this stage

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when do the drones exit

ionic grove
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Just get enough firepower

graceful bear
acoustic slate
weak gazelle
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this one is simple enough, main problem is top right & left
where mortar dude spawn

graceful bear
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So uh, the Ch 15 boss's main body apparently only has one phase, so overkilling it with Ray means you don't get to see it do Hokma Suppression mechanics
Also Contrail can block its flying phase

weak gazelle
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anything else that goes to bottom can be dealt by your usual team

topaz tapir
graceful bear
# topaz tapir top right.

You mean the mortar dudes? (Drones usually refer to the flying enemies) They just go left, up and then right, covering all four tiles before going to the blue box

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Oh wait, this is AP 4

graceful bear
# topaz tapir top right.

The drones do a loop like the mortar dudes, then go diagonally down right and head for the bottom blue box

wary ridge
weak gazelle
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mb i tho its ap-5
turn out ap-4
yeah as above me said

signal vector
graceful bear
topaz tapir
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Look drones

graceful bear
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I'll paste it again

The drones do a loop like the mortar dudes, then go diagonally down right and head for the bottom blue box

topaz tapir
topaz tapir
wary ridge
topaz tapir
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Okay where enteres and exit where

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not sure if I should farm this or AP-4 anyways

graceful bear
# topaz tapir Okay where enteres and exit where

no drones

  • Mortar dudes emerges from the top left and right red boxes and go to the closest blue box
  • Sarkaz Greatswords, crossbows and aoe casters come from top and bottom right and head to the left blue boxes
    Also always farm the highest diff supply stages
topaz tapir
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the crossbows target my medics first cuz they were the closest ones

graceful bear
topaz tapir
graceful bear
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whats ur setup looking like

topaz tapir
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I already restarted wait

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Something like this

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Oh my fucking god I HATE MORTARS

Gravel ain't enough they still get to base

graceful bear
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use melantha

topaz tapir
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ITS ALWAYS THE ONE FUCKING ENEMY THAT NEVER DIES

graceful bear
topaz tapir
somber falcon
graceful bear
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or like Jaye or something

topaz tapir
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I got both

graceful bear
graceful bear
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But yeah Jaye is definitely worth E1, his S2 is incredibly powerful

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E0 just gives a bonus based on unfilled slots in the factory
E1 gives a bigger bonus but also shrinks the initial slot count

topaz tapir
graceful bear
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Also Degenbrecher seems to have the same skill but better

topaz tapir
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so it cancels each other out

graceful bear
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he's supposed to be paired with Silverash and Cliffheart for a much bigger limit

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problem is you have to regularly empty the factory to get the most out of it

topaz tapir
graceful bear
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If you're bringing Jaye I'm not sure you even need melantha since his redeploy is short enough to drop on every mortar dude

scarlet fulcrum
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quartz also good for base

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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Newb have bunch catalist from monthly squads and anni rotation first rewards

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Whats ur operators level looks like

topaz tapir
regal frost
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squad?

scarlet fulcrum
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Beat 3-8, unlock IS, run IS once (preferred the concluded one so other than 5), fail it once. Then u will have monthly unlocked

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Just post ur ops lv

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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Look at home page

regal frost
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mizuki IS3

scarlet fulcrum
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IS2 is Phantom

scarlet fulcrum
regal frost
scarlet fulcrum
topaz tapir
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That is Memory Mapping

regal frost
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yes that's what monthly squad is

scarlet fulcrum
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Same shit

regal frost
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it's the middle option

topaz tapir
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????

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People told me that's not what memory mapping is

regal frost
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every IS has a different name for it

topaz tapir
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They told me Monthly and Memory have two different names

regal frost
scarlet fulcrum
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In is2 its called monthly squad, and originally it was released each month so

regal frost
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just remember it's always the middle option

scarlet fulcrum
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Still the same monthly squad yes

topaz tapir
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okay dude my luck is shit I can't do Monthly Squad either

scarlet fulcrum
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First timer, normal

topaz tapir
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cant borrow either cuz hope is too low

scarlet fulcrum
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U only need to reach floor 3

topaz tapir
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yeah

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still lost

scarlet fulcrum
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U just started

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Not even 5 minutes

pearl compass
topaz tapir
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i lost to those kamikaze things that float in the air

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cuz I dont know their range or where to place units

scarlet fulcrum
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Mutual aid? U can leak em

topaz tapir
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no

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the shuriken looking blob things

scarlet fulcrum
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Which monthly were u doing

topaz tapir
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Gladia

scarlet fulcrum
topaz tapir
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what

scarlet fulcrum
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thats enough to rotate

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For Vore u can just kroos it

topaz tapir
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what the hell do i do with normal enemies then

pearl compass
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I cannot figure out what are you two talking about.

scarlet fulcrum
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Ch11 enemies stage

pearl compass
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Oh, ISW-NO "Hunger and Thirst"

scarlet fulcrum
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Yeah that

pearl compass
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Three units kinda small

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Especially for F2 map

scarlet fulcrum
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They probably ignoring free reserve

pearl compass
topaz tapir
pearl compass
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Stop doing that!

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At once.

scarlet fulcrum
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They made Early floor easy for a reason

pearl compass
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You need to farm early battles to become stronger

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Then you can skip the levels later if they threatening you with immediate death.

topaz tapir
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i dont wanna do IS anymore rn I need to spend my sanity

pearl compass
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Or if they inevitable, you may have more chances to survive.

topaz tapir
pearl compass
scarlet fulcrum
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yeah show ur ops so we can clear the stage u struggled b4

topaz tapir
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AP-5

scarlet fulcrum
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Thorns skill lv7?

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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Try the classic thorns setup with medic and defender added

topaz tapir
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the huh

pearl compass
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It'll be a looooooong day...

scarlet fulcrum
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Smt like this, change with better medic

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U can recycle all of ur guard for the mortar

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even certain e0 archetype can kill them

topaz tapir
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whats that on the top range tile

scarlet fulcrum
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Medic

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Just use ur aoe one

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Ignore Ansel

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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Oh well bring him still, ur raised one

scarlet fulcrum
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Too many phantom shill smh

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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Activate thorns skill 🔥

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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After thorns yea, then replace vg later

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Just normal aggro manage

topaz tapir
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K what now

scarlet fulcrum
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Tequila beside ptilo

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Upper tile nice for bow baiting

topaz tapir
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to bait bow before Ptil dies

scarlet fulcrum
#

Tequila cheaper

topaz tapir
#

what direction should i face Teq tho

scarlet fulcrum
#

Just less ur medic burden

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Right

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
#

Tequila also beefy

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
#

Yea aggro issue its fine, we keep learn

topaz tapir
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im restarting

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I lost already

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Mortars got past

scarlet fulcrum
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Also when splash caster appear retreat ur krooster, that position is not safe

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"If" ur laning fine, u can use lappland for mortar relay

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tbh just buy quartz from certs. E1 ing Mel kinda waste there

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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Is ur blaze skill lv4 atleast?

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
#

U can use her for laning in cuora place, if this setup leak

warped smelt
#

he can use ulpianus

scarlet fulcrum
#

Yeah fund him 30 bucks

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
#

Put lapp to kill, then retreat, just rinse and repeat

topaz tapir
#

okay I finally completed it jeezus

scarlet fulcrum
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If it works it works

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No need aesthetic part

topaz tapir
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not sure if I wouldve done this stage better if I had picked Silverash but eh

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is SIlverash better than Thorns at E2 anyways

scarlet fulcrum
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Yea and tequila

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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He is beefy and u can timing him easily since skill can be cancelled

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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As long as atleast lv7 its easier to timing

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
#

Which mats?

wary ridge
#

Oh wait, didn't meant to reply to your message

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Anyway, do you still have some material selectors left from the login?

full stream
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nope dont suggest that

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use it for nodule

topaz tapir
wary ridge
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Ohhh, that's how you already got him to e2

topaz tapir
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1-7 isnt giving me the extra drops I need

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I have NO devices

sly drift
full stream
topaz tapir
wary ridge
topaz tapir
#

I am NOT doing more sidestories

full stream
topaz tapir
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so

full stream
topaz tapir
#

whats the new mat again anyways
(also should we move channels)

scarlet fulcrum
#

Just realized only EN server that given free t4 selector

full stream
glass monolith
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I dropped the entire 1 after 6 stage clears so I already hate it HellaKek

topaz tapir
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I have enough Crystaline Component

I just need 2 Coagulating Gel
aaaand Im on Chapter 4 😭

eager turtle
scarlet fulcrum
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There are 3 on first reward current rotation, might as well reach 1800 cap

topaz tapir
#

?

scarlet fulcrum
#

Annihilation

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Do u hate orundumb?

wary ridge
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Damn really? I really wanna get gummy or something

glass monolith
#

Something tells me current annihilation a little too much for people who just beat Skullshatter CeobeConfused

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
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Borrow first, then set up on outskirts for proxy

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No need to waste ur time

topaz tapir
wary ridge
topaz tapir
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I need at least one stage where I can auto

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so I can reach cap

scarlet fulcrum
#

Chernoborg very shit efficiency wise

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Do it outskirts atleast, still shit but better than cherno

topaz tapir
#

Idk if I should use Myrtle over Fang

scarlet fulcrum
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Yeah as long as only game that restart iits fine

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Fang is fine, e0 myrtle also fine

glass monolith
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#help message chernobog is like 16 more sanity per week compared to current for 1800 cap

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I did math randomly out of boredom

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And by 1800 time you will have something better

elder flume
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supposed to math for 1500 or 1600 instead since they need to beat anni 2 + 3 + current for the cap

glass monolith
#

Maybe they beat them with borrow

elder flume
#

forgot if initial cap is 1200 or 1500

glass monolith
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1200 but there are a lot of increases early

scarlet fulcrum
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Its already Friday just borrow for 1800 cap first, auto later

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For filling 1800

void terrace
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Mon3tr s2 is just broken as balls

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Like aak level atk speed buff for 3 units?

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Thats basically an IS relic

sly drift
glass monolith
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I didn't knew heal can bounce on full hp units

topaz tapir
#

Fuck I didn't know Casters would go that direction

glass monolith
#

As person who used Shaw push and top holes I didn't knew what goes where to begin with HellaKek

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It sometimes pays off to check potential to insta kill enemy with pusher/puller when holes are present

topaz tapir
#

is Tequila + Coura and a medic good enough

eternal rapids
topaz tapir
eternal rapids
topaz tapir
eternal rapids
#

Huh that's weird I though thorns is enough to kill everyone there

topaz tapir
pearl compass
void terrace
glass monolith
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Top side - Shaw skill kills pretty much any caster who live enough (skill level 4 to be sure) , last deployed any defender tank hits. Steward cuz shield enemies sometimes refuse to hole. Thorns on more forward position kill some AFKing enemies. If at risk of enemy passing add bodies to block stuff inside thorns S3

scarlet fulcrum
#

If u long tap it, it will pop description

topaz tapir
#

i cant tell whos the other ops due to costums ngl

glass monolith
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3* medics, Kroos, Steward

scarlet fulcrum
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Thats ansel spot shaw and steward

glass monolith
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I brought bare minimum to showcase, and mastery 3 Thorns was so strong I didn't need extra bodies really (Dropped melanta at end just to showcase idea of blocking enemy before it take turn)

void terrace
#

How good is mon3tr in IS?

topaz tapir
#

Its only Skill Lv7

dapper hedge
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Shouldn't matter much

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Its anni 1 anw

glass monolith
# topaz tapir I dont have Mastery 3 Thorns

I cant disable mastery (actually could try friend support someone's outside my friend list) so I just mention it in advance that your Thorns might not kill as fast as mine. Some people fail to account for those details when trying to copy others

void terrace
#

Dumb but

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How much does mon3tr boost surtr hospital

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She has quire high healing and the atkspeed buff can boost medics as well

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Just wondering if she can reduce the medic count further

wispy condor
#

mon3trs up there with skalter/nearl for surtr hospital purposes. boosts surtrs actual dps output too
doesnt suddenly make surtr hospital worth running but

narrow pendant
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About 180% total dmg buff to surtr s3Tericinema

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Here, surtr "solos" h7-4

void terrace
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Thats actually cazy

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4 unit surtr hospital might be doable

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Is quercs healing that good?

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Or should i just use warf s1

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I mean this is basically 5 ops

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its a bit finnicky but it works

limpid ore
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doesnt reed just solo this?

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finnicky indeed

limpid ore
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stalker

celest bluff
pearl compass
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She may too

narrow pendant
void terrace
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This is highly stable

brittle mesa
#

I’m working with DM-MO-1 mission while using this squad. What’s your opinion?

void terrace
#

Also this isnt for this stage its a brainless surtr hospital test

austere crypt
#

Then use anni

limpid ore
#

nah, RA

brittle mesa
#

Ifrit’s S2 is maxed

limpid ore
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get CE to maximize the hospital

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by redistributing the health

austere crypt
#

Pretty sure shu/saria, nearl, skalter, eyja, lumen is enough

limpid ore
#

i think you can use less operator with CE

austere crypt
#

Maybe add rose salt too

limpid ore
#

since you just yoink the health from defenders to give to surtr

austere crypt
#

Maybe shu, ce, mon3tr could wprk

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Ima test this rq

void terrace
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This works

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I mean its basically 5 medics: shu skalter monst3r ptilo eyja

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Im wondering if i can remove skalter

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Nope it needs skalter

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Not the callout 🫠🫠🫠

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Ok shu ptilo CE monst3r works but its barely enough

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So thats 4 op hospital

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With nian sibling backline support

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And monstrr s2 isnt upgraded yet

opal anvil
#

15-9 stage is highest enemy count in story?

sly drift
#

Enemy count stop being matter lately because it could written as 10 enemies in total and you actually fight hundreds RedOmegaLul

void terrace
#

Lol real

full bone
#

oh god, this was stupid. it just sends waves of strong enemies.

if i didnt pull for monster and banana, this would have been impossible with just my current units as monster and banana are the only hard hitters i have.

its becoming stressful playing with what im limited with

"oh just create and focus building your general purpose squad... guards/defenders/2 snipers/2 casters/healers and vanguards" 🙃

serene hornet
void terrace
#

Bruh

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Monst3r s2 is actually stupid

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You can buff a whole range of casters with it

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Dusk becomes insane

full bone
#

i dont have a whole range of casters

void terrace
#

She can just spam so many feelings

void terrace
#

Offensive sp units too

full bone
#

just a max banana

void terrace
#

Its multi aak buff

#

Yeah bananana's summon is busted

full bone
#

what you see at 0:05 are the highest invested units i have

void terrace
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I just learnt you can unsummon bananana's big minion of it spawns in the wrong place 🫠🫠

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Finally it makes so much more sense now

glass monolith
#

I just realized how funny AK mechanics sounds out of context

graceful bear
#

Any general ideas for 15-20 Strategic Simulation?
My "normal" clear of adverse was an absolutely cursed setup that involved Ulpianus S2 as primary DPS on the machine, with Contrail used to prevent it from moving in the air. Then as soon as machine dies a Warf-buffed Ray one-cycles the boss. Gladiia solo-holds the right lane until 21/29 where she needs a sniper to help.

The hidden "fixed" modifier that buffs enemy states in SS though makes it so that chaff overwhelms Ulpianus/Vulpisfoglia who hold the blue box and Ray gets distract by a random colossus and wastes most of her shots on it.

pearl compass
maiden hound
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blocking airtards

graceful bear
pearl compass
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Oh, I forgot the Hand+Boss Puppy sequence

graceful bear
#

Yeah, I tried it with the SS stat buffs and Contrail just fucking explodes

pearl compass
#

Just Wis him to put down faster.

glass monolith
#

Silvergun delayed tile activation to make hand waste time trying to go for activations instead doing a thing

maiden hound
#

wait for tippi DocSmile

graceful bear
#

whats tippi

#

actually no, the boss doesn't cause contrail to explode
Its the two additional colossi's splash damage

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And if I pick the damage up instead, Lappland who was holding against the discount-Frostnovas explodes

maiden hound
#

oh okay

graceful bear
#

...
How the hell is Silvergun's Mousse and Arene outdamaging Ulpianus

#

the boss has 75 RES

pearl compass
void terrace
#

Just amiya it

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With true damage 🫠🫠

graceful bear
pearl compass
void terrace
#

Huh?

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Which one

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The mini machine?

#

Oh

warped smelt
#

You can use her on s1

kindred galleon
#

am i really supposed to do this

warped smelt
#

Don't do what she say

#

Completely

celest bluff
pearl compass
#

You'll still die whatever you do.

#

Don't resist.

kindred galleon
serene hornet
void terrace
#

Ok this set up is actually

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Really stable

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You dont even need to activate ptilo s3 at all

#

Cycle Shu s3 + monster s2 with ce s3

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Make sure u only use monster s2 when shu s3 is active

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Its a perfect loop

#

Theres like 2 seconds of downtime before CE gets her skill up but her burst heal will heal surtr even if she drops low

#

Ptilo skill is saved for big waves of enemies to offset incoming damage

#

Very viable surtr hospital which actually buffs surtr

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Yu is just there for kicks

serene hornet
narrow pendant
#

Iwl
I dont think any of us is gonna do h11-4 nowrealmad

jovial nest
#

jesus christ this is our only option and it feels awful.

narrow pendant
#

Yea welcone 30%

lapis hornet
#

just use these for now

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what's the problem

#

np np

glass monolith
dapper hedge
void terrace
#

Bruh

#

Surtr hospital H13-4

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Ignore wis she was just there to clean up the blood worms

#

Surtr soloed funnt vamp guy

placid walrus
#

Yoo, Who can lanehold those unblockable mimics?

void terrace
#

Err use a caster to poke them

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And turn them into casters

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Before they touch your blockers and become unblockable

placid walrus
#

I see, i didnt realize it was based on the attacker ExuHyperStare

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Thank you

void terrace
#

Just dont use yu teleport

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If he teleports them onto him they all become unblockable wraiths at once

signal vector
#

how do I complete 15-8 strategic simulation? this is my squad

pearl compass
signal vector
#

no

pearl compass
#

Saaaaaadge

#

Any VGs other than Fang?

acoustic slate
signal vector
pearl compass
#

So, deploy Fang and try farm DP during Caster bind

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Deploy Thorns to kill the Caster.

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He could solo the upper lane.

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Later deploy Ptilo and Blaze at bottom lane.

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If you're struggling, put someone fast like Plume.

#

Logos also could help.

sly drift
#

Because if it's not 45 then its not on Device tier bullshi DocSmile

signal vector
#

my DP gen was too slow

full terrace
pearl compass
# signal vector my DP gen was too slow

Then I see two options:

Option A: You stun the Caster at the right moment he uses the skill with TexasAlter S3 for example.
Option B: You borrow any strong Vanguard like Ines or Myrtle to farm DP easily.

I prefer option B.

void terrace
#

Just u offical

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Bomb the caster

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3dp stun.....

glass monolith
#

Damn I didn't think of that

pearl compass
#

This is option too.

warm olive
#

Is there a recommended 3 star Op/s to handle 5—7? I am struggling to get all the drones at the end.

regal frost
#

steward helps with the cold drones at the start

warm olive
#

These are my units

pearl compass
#

Eblana S3 can kill the Frost drone immediately.

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With her instaburst skill.

warm olive
#

I was using her go hold the bottom lane

regal frost
#

are you using the drone jammer to slow down the drones?

#

show squad btw

warm olive
#

Yeah, but maybe the placement is off

pearl compass
#

It should be enough

#

You can even use other ops on bottom lane

regal frost
warm olive
#

OK, ill try that

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Thanks

regal frost
#

also necrass S3 should be able to kill a bunch of drones

scarlet fulcrum
#

Raise her skill to lv4, then u can cancel the DP bondage caster

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For example the unga bunga

stark raven
#

trying to do 15-20 without virtuosa and logos cuz I don't have em ahhhh

#

all the guides use them

leaden sierra
#

Who do you have then? I've seen people do it with Haze

narrow pendant
unique nest
signal vector
brisk surge
#

monster 2 cycles the boss on 15-20 why do you need virt or logos

scarlet fulcrum
#

Use her as opener, deploy right away facing bondage. Retreat after she cancel it

brisk surge
void terrace
#

Can pennace do it?

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Slow heavy atk too

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Plus she probably survives better solo

brisk surge
#

penance numbers are hot ass

void terrace
#

5k plus atk begs to differ

warped smelt
celest bluff
#

Why pepe is limited unit

narrow pendant
#

To satisfy namie

topaz tapir
#

Oh my god bruh

topaz tapir
scarlet fulcrum
#

Only skill lv4

pearl compass
topaz tapir
visual goblet
full stream
topaz tapir
#

I need T3

full stream
#

Have u checked IS?RA?

topaz tapir
full stream
#

Reclamation algorithm

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U can abuse the mechanic for free points however the mode is basically a farming sim

visual goblet
#

Unless you like that kind of gameplay, i argue its the most boring gamemode in arknights

glass monolith
#

Cough - SSS exists

torpid prawn
#

Whatever you do, dont use lapper s3 on 15-15.
Worst mistake ever

pearl compass
torpid prawn
#

Even tried to use ambushers to turn them into redblades early but noooo cuz ethan+manticore are not enough.
Or even if they were enough i would be forced to unleash lapper s3 turning the unturned ones into casters anyways

manic vessel
#

for 15-20 i dont have enough DPS to melt the boss in 3 phases; do i have to maxlevel Ray and do i also need her module to comfortably 3 rotation the boss

acoustic slate
lunar olive
manic vessel
#

I need to borrow a gladia to do the stage so i cannot take any other units, idont have wisadel or lappalter either

acoustic slate
#

That’s good, multi-hit is bad

#

I question borrowing gladiia, but a buffer for Ray or shamare should work wonders

manic vessel
#

Would aak work, i have no warfarin

acoustic slate
#

Uhhhhh idk if Ray survives

lunar olive
astral cosmos
#

ray would kind of explode

acoustic slate
#

Do you have Heidi?SoraWow

astral cosmos
#

-# you know who else buffs ray and doesn't make her explode? spuria

manic vessel
#

i can use surtr and ray

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at the same time

acoustic slate
#

You can

manic vessel
#

how does the timegate mechanic work? is it the amount of bossphases or a limited time

#

how long do i have to kill it

acoustic slate
#

Every time you hit it, the window closes by a second, so big dph is best

twin jacinth
#

Does this mean that healers in general can overheal or is it only healers that specifically can overheal?

astral cosmos
#

i don't understand your question
any instance of healing with green numbers (so not passive healing) is affected by this
can be medics, can be not medics as long as a heal of this type is applied

twin jacinth
#

so if i slap mont3r down near someone who is likely to take damage, it will start doing damage to nearby enemies when she just dumps heals?

astral cosmos
#

every time she heals, if there's some amount that's overhealed, yes it will deal damage

willow sun
# twin jacinth Does this mean that healers in general can overheal or is it only healers that s...

the op still needs to be injured in order to be healed
say they're at 800/1000 hp and a medic heals for 150 hp, the first heal will be just a regular heal, bumping them up to 950/1000 hp, then the second heal will heal 50 hp, so the op will be at 1000/1000 hp, with 100 hp overheal being turned into arts damage in a 3x3 around that op, then now that the op is max hp they will no longer be healed as usual

#

ik im late but nobody replied so ChenShrug

#

and as for your question of "healers than can specifically overheal," I can't think of many examples but if they're like silence's drone, yes it will turn ops into little sources of aoe arts dot

astral cosmos
#

well yes, because green numbers ReedBean

willow sun
#

whar

astral cosmos
#

that's what i explained PensiveRocc

willow sun
#

how i interpreted their question was "does this relic allow regular medics to overheal full hp ops or is it only medics that can overheal"

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as if overhealing was an entirely separate mechanic

#

and idrk what "overhealing" is in their mind but i can only relate it to something like silence's drone, which causes those green numbers to appear regardless of if they're at full hp or not

astral cosmos
#

wat

#

u can't overheal full hp ops
they can't be healed FartWut

#

wait,

#

silence drone still heals them doesn't it?

willow sun
#

yeah silence drone can heal full hp ops

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which is what i think he means by "overhealing" but i can't really think of many other examples CeobeConfused

astral cosmos
#

oh okay

#

yeah forgot about that interaction

#

can't think of other examples either

willow sun
#

quite silly ye

#

i think m3 bounces can target full hp but dont heal, but i honestly never paid attention
nvm m3 bounces do overheal

astral cosmos
#

i mean wouldnt it apply to all chain medics then

willow sun
#

i just looked down at my auto play

willow sun
astral cosmos
#

oh right

#

that's her shtick

willow sun
#

silly little reconstruction

round pike
#

how does one deal with the time limit for the boss on last stage and simulation

#

i find that either i loose due to leaking one enemy trying to focus on getting the boss, or i loose because time limit once i got the normal enemies in check

scarlet fulcrum
#

Upgrade the red box to spam skills

#

Oh wait this is not bastion RedOmegaLul

signal vector
#

any tips on how to deal with the ICBMs in chap 10?

wary shuttle
#

bait, immortality skills, shields

somber stone
#

just have more hp

signal vector
#

cause if it's ulpipi's level of HP then I'm pretty much cooked

regal frost
#

3k

somber stone
#

3k for cannon on non story mode

sly drift
#

Bait using Vigil wolf (I'm not joking)

#

The wolf is 3 block and one cannon will only remove one stack of the wolf. By the time cannon is back up, the wolf will stack to 3 again, so even if you deploy any 3 blocker. The cannon will always target vigil wolf because stacking to 3 wolf considered new target for the cannon.

wary shuttle
#

whats the intended method for 15-15

sly drift
#

Turn them into swordsman

#

If you have, Mlynar on left side, SA on right side.
Or something similar to that.

#

That is win already

wary shuttle
#

well yeah but is it just spawnkilling?

#

or are you supposed to set up a kill box somewhere that the orbs walk up to

sly drift
#

Waiting for the balls to move is dangerous because if you somehow block it. It will sprint to the blue box unblockable with that short path lmao

#

Just kill them as fast as possible..
Only use art damage if you can sustain decode caster attack because that shit hit hard af lol

sour oracle
#

How does chapter 13 boss work? I did it first try, and kinda killed it too fast to understand really

sly drift
#

Did you win the stage? Or did you just killed the phase one lmao

sour oracle
#

Both phases

#

I just activated things and it died, and I don't even understand how

sly drift
#

Try H13-4. Maybe it will make you understand, and start reading the boss mechanic DocSmile

sour oracle
#

Reading is for chumps.

I play yugioh DocSmile

sly drift
#

It's piss easy if you have someone to immediately erase the boss on second phase.

sour oracle
sly drift
#

What's your full squad

sour oracle
#

doesnt even matter I already beat the stage lol