strategy

[full terrace]

Anyway, after the firebreath

You retreat Wis's Revenant Shadow

The bottom one

Retreat first

And then you activate her skill

Now she will summon new Revenant Shadow

And this Revenant Shadow will be the "last deployed" unit

The dragon will hit it instead of Perfumer

In the guide I didnt retreat it because Gavial is at far back so

[soft parrot]

Oh okay

[full terrace]

Medic behind Wis is fine

[soft parrot]

Yeah her range is better

[full terrace]

Just make sure you cycle the Revenant Shadow properly

The initial clear before this video was released

The Medic was placed behind Wis

I repositioned the Medic to save time because otherwise I had to retreat and resummon the Revenant Shadow for baiting

[soft parrot]

So placing prefurmer one tile behind wis is fine as long as I cycle the shadow?

[full terrace]

Yes

[soft parrot]

Oh I see

[full terrace]

As long as the Revenant Shadow is the last deployed

And make sure you bait that fire breath properly with Gravel

For Matoimaru, you can replace her with any unit that has super high Attack

This unit must be the unit with the highest Attack on your squad

[soft parrot]

We're using the 3* cat girl forgot her name I think that should be fine no?

[full terrace]

Excluding Wisadel because Wisadel is on Camouflage

Melantha? She should be fine

[vital vessel]

melantha is fine

[full terrace]

Her attack is quite high

Just make sure

That you assign a Medic to her

Just to heal up a bit

[soft parrot]

Okay

Is using Ethan on bottom to stall rabbits fine?

She's using eyja1 n may to kill them idk if that's enough tho

Sometimes they leak

[full terrace]

Its fine, you can also stack with Eyja no problem

I left you with 5 open slots for a reason

[soft parrot]

Mm okay

We'll try it out then

Tysm arf n femn for the help

[full terrace]

Best of luck there

[vital vessel]

you're welcome i did everything

the wisadel solo on ea-ex-8 is pretty heavy on rng

it's crazy

[scarlet fulcrum]

Brainded camp skipping hassle mechanic, just add more ops. I retreated degen in the end cause i forgor, works regardless

[soft parrot]

@vital vessel @full terrace tysm we finally beat ex8 cm

[full terrace]

Congrats and you are welcome

[rapid junco]

@scarlet fulcrum
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=qXrnP3SFU2U&si=5RPV6D_GxlFl62Ch

Is this count as grooming song?

[scarlet fulcrum]

This one more focused on daily life, finding Joy in ordinary life simping just side dish

[rich plover]

Thanks

[scarlet fulcrum]

gl

[tired harness]

can anyone help me

i follow kyostin low star team but still letting wi sa del getting targeted by boss

i have some 6 star but i dont think it will help

the only 1 time i killed boss but my top leak 1

[rich plover]

Did it, thanks again

Was scuffed, but I managed to pull through

[scarlet fulcrum]

Good job 👍 boss stat just so so fortunately

[rich plover]

Nay nay ass defense

All bones no meat

[violet sorrel]

em

the shield reflect dmg, what should i do

[full terrace]

Surtr burst Phase 1, then Wisadel shot Phaae 2

[violet sorrel]

[full terrace]

Together with Mlynar

[full terrace]

Activate the device and change the song to remove shields

[maiden hound]

tinman item sweep

[violet sorrel]

ok ty

[tired harness]

How to bait the spike from boss?

I don't have any good medic like ejya

I don't have mulberry too

Only have whisperain, Ceylon, wafarin

[full terrace]

If you spawn camp there is no need to worry about the spike too much, regular Medic will be able to keep up. If you do the stall play then you can bait with someone with super high attack

Here is some visual reference https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8HOfWWH4m8k&list=PLdcpPSF3owK5sHiYEYGEeDkmesnCzaIPK&index=17&pp=gAQBiAQB

There are 5 open slots, you can make good use of them

[mighty zodiac]

I need help with this, my team is shown in the pic below

[maiden hound]

swap tequila with another anti air sniper

also get all of them e1 (except for mulberry she kinda buns)

[uncut ferry]

what stage

[mighty zodiac]

alright thanks

[tired harness]

EA-EX-8CM

[tired harness]

Thank you very much I'll try later I'm taking breakfast

[uncut ferry]

ahh sorry im not really acquainted with that i thought it was just ea 8 for some reason
to bait attacks just deploy a unit in the bosses range before they go launch an attack, not sure if mlynar or others with taunt will still take attack but that should be the case

[restive patio]

Your strategy revolves around this, green for healer, blue for caster and if you are using Eblana face it up otherwise it's useless, yellow for sniper, orange for defender, purple for vanguard then you change it to lappland.

[full terrace]

There thats your squad

Burst the boss and then do the cleanup. I trust you can do the cleanup by yourself?

[tired harness]

im going back to home now

do i need another med?

i have reed alter but idk where to use

[full terrace]

Warfarin alone there is enough, you said you got her

[pearl compass]

No, if you do that the same as he did

[full terrace]

Reed alter can help you burst the boss there

Put her in Orchid position instead

S3

[tired harness]

behind saria?

oh ok

i will try once i got home

[full terrace]

I might be sleeping by the time you got home. If I'm no longer here, you can ask the people here if you have any question

I recommend kirn

[tired harness]

thank you very much 🛐

[full terrace]

Best of luck bro

[opal drift]

rate this EA-8 Strat

(mapper didn't know Ela can be on ground)

[narrow pendant]

I dont think throwing 6* inti a group at blue box counts as something ti call a strat

But, sure, should easily clear

[full terrace]

1.5/10

• Ulpianus has the highest Attack power in the squad, the boss will throw purple crystals at him, thats 3x3 around him. He should be in Shu's position.
• Lappland is hitting nothing and will be the boss's fodder when it gets close, position her below Eyja and she'd survive better, her skill is global anyway.
• Ela will be dead soon because her position is close to crystals position, also her bomb cant hit Aerial.
• Logos position is correct but boss is weak to Physical, not Arts.
• Yu is a redundancy with Ulpianus around, if his role is just to buff Lappland up, you might as well draft 2 Snipers instead of this combo.
• Thorns is whatever.

[dapper hedge]

You can just spawnkill the dragon

[opal drift]

but at the same time, I don't want to have my units outside of Eyja's range

unless better position is in

this locks me with 2 rangers only, and the rest is either medic defenders, horn(i don't have the crying cat alter), lords, or mlynar, or some "tank" like ulpi, or Ela whom happens to be able to be on ground due to module

[tired harness]

sorry my bad

i dont have enough sanity XD

i will try with practice ticket first

[opal drift]

how? surtr? WisAdel?

[full terrace]

Not all units must be within her range, this boss especially has a lot of annoying AoE attacks. Firebreath is 3x3 on the last deployed unit, you group them up, a bunch of units will be burned simultaneously. Crystals explosion is also AoE (plus Elemental Injury), and at Phase 2 the boss will do the aerial breath burning 3 rows at once. You group them like that most of them will suffer from a lot of AoE attacks, Eyjaberry is not some omnipotent goddess who can take care of everyone's HP and Elemental Injury both at the same time.

Positioning should be designed with stage and boss mechanics in mind, not because it looks pretty for your units to stay within your Medic healing range.

[opal drift]

not look pretty but look safe

[narrow pendant]

U dont need them to be safe when y can easily manipulate the one being attacked

Wait actually pause
Why are u even making "a strat" for ea8

With your roster u can just, bruteforce first try

Its an easy stage

[opal drift]

actually, I already did(following Oyuki's Guide), just wanna see the opinion of the people here....

[vital arrow]

youre just mashing 10 *6s in a single spot

so yeah its not really a strat

its just bruteforcing

does it clear? easily

[maiden hound]

rather bruteforce on somewhere around f3 to kill boss faster

[opal drift]

yeah... I realized it

at max its 8, if i recall, so I changed it for now

[maiden hound]

degen to e3 mlynar to e5 eyja2 to g5

[twin jacinth]

arknights is chess now?

[serene hornet]

Always has been

I mean, think about it
Why do we have an entire event just for us to collect chess pieces?

[glass monolith]

Kleptomania

[twin jacinth]

we are all kleptos in AK on this blessed day

edit: fuck i did not realize the date

[glass monolith]

(Checks "this day" date)

[twin jacinth]

mmmmm

i did not realize today's date

[celest bluff]

Today is the day

11th of sept

[rapid junco]

@scarlet fulcrum
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xZemtshPRwM&si=NcwWFaVik59SXNQ8

[rapid junco]

Day of mayano top gun legend race

Big information

[glass monolith]

Naicu

[full terrace]

@pure orchid @regal frost

I totally forgotten how annoyingly long Bastion Defense was

[regal frost]

I'm not looking forward to it

[stone dawn]

Mission 5-10

Here is my fighting deck

CAN i win

[rapid junco]

Well yes, you can borrow nowdays popular carry ops to give damage both mobs and boss

Just to be careful with deployment, put tank as last or bait the special bullet from faust

[stone dawn]

Yeah tried with wisadel first try

But i try to so without any Yelp

[rapid junco]

[restive patio]

Yes

[rapid junco]

Can you just try it first than tell the problem you get?

[acoustic slate]

[stone dawn]

Oh yes didn’t think about that sorry

[rapid junco]

[pearl compass]

[rapid junco]

Now Miss onion

Thank you Mr space

[acoustic slate]

[pure orchid]

👏

remind me what bastion defense is again

[restive patio]

just put mountain when faust in the middle you should be fine

[pearl compass]

Wave Survival

Enemy come, you kill, you build, you kill more, you win.

[pure orchid]

sounds long 💀

[pearl compass]

It is

[pure orchid]

i do not look forward to having my units stolen

[acoustic slate]

Aka “scrolling around wondering where the fuck this leak is coming from” simulator

[pure orchid]

for such a long time

[rapid junco]

Damn

Rooftop fixing simulator

[full terrace]

It's so hard not to click the thumbsup for your partner in Bastion Defense

After spending 30 mins together

😂

[rich plover]

50% more tower defense

[full terrace]

@pure orchid that one took forever, lemme know if you want tips

[pure orchid]

bastion does take forever man

god forbid anyone afk in the middle of it

just staying is already nice enough

[full terrace]

Bastion S-5 you better draft full meta lineup, units like Wis, Logos, Lappland

Asca and Mlynar too

Otherwise hope that your partner drafts them

[plucky grove]

what's on s5

[pure orchid]

i aint drafting shit brother

we just gon lose

[wicked minnow]

im probably just gonna duo with my welfare account for that one

surely cant be that bad

[tall sierra]

saving the hostage croc is hard

[timid cave]

What’s the best ways to get lmd in arknights

[acoustic slate]

This is a #help question but the answer is from your base

[glass monolith]

Build base and

[brazen stream]

500 bonethrowers

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-five-hundred-cigarettes-gif-6779891482871762392

[velvet shadow]

For Shinning, is her S2 or S3 worth upgrading? I can't tell what's more useful

[narrow pendant]

🥀 she sucks
Dont spend more mats in her

[tall sierra]

Holy shit elbana stage in bastion advance was laggy af

Almost lost when i cant click anything or move the map due to the lag

[plucky grove]

ah

[crisp bolt]

bonethrowers you say?

[glass monolith]

One could say we are (Gets shot)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nice 👍

[ember field]

Should i bring siege and ingrid for lane right?

Cause that enemy has splash damage

Even must hold two lane

[full terrace]

Here some visual reference https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdj_kK6OnbY&list=PLdcpPSF3owK7tpCEar3o0P_Uqkc6GP8p6&index=63&pp=gAQBiAQB

[wicked minnow]

the blue and red boxes are switched around. he's doing standard enviroment

[full terrace]

Do Adverse to save time 😏

[wicked minnow]

real

im more worried that he's been doing standard all this time

so he cant even if he wanted to

[scarlet fulcrum]

Lazy way

Good time for Sonya s1

[ember field]

Ah yess, its worth it, thanks

Even i have it all

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yea i looked on ur pic

[visual topaz]

this stage so hard I just won with my party in 1 out of 4 games. annoying hell

[narrow pendant]

Isnt that the steamknights stage

I rmb it being easy

[jovial nest]

I need your opinions on a matter.
If you're gonna build a Yu Burn squad and only have 1 slot left, which operator would you choose to include?:

• Hoshi Alter
• Reed Alter
  Context: The squad already has a core cast of 3 ground ops and 4 ranged ops

[sly drift]

Why are you so obsessed with making fixed team Jusan. We have what this called situational ops —Either reed or hoshi could be better—because Arknights is literally about it.

And you know it

[rapid junco]

Just build both anyway
Hoshi still far

[jovial nest]

because unlike before, this team is just fun for me

and i want to optimize it for any blind clears

and yeah still pretty strong even when not all the pieces are present

and lets not joke ourselves, we barely adjust squads in normal content

maybe 1 slot at best for a hard counter

every map needs specific solutions. But there will always be the need for DPS, DP printing, and sustain. And you will always have the same ops represent those until a better one (in our own opinions) arrives. That is why I'm adjusting the team because Hoshi alter and Sakiko are promising additions to Yu S3.

[elder flume]

me who clears squad and remakes a new one for every stage

[acoustic slate]

Me when I project

[wicked minnow]

hoshi is a significantly better unit than reed imo but reed has arts frag and when your team is almost fully arts like in burn comp she could work out ye

[narrow pendant]

Okay but reed is a cutie pattotie dragon

[pearl compass]

Yeah, but Hoshibooba

[narrow pendant]

[pearl compass]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-hoshiguma-gif-14792244206997421719

[wary ridge]

How do I become a better strategist in this game? Is it just pure trial and error?

[pearl compass]

That's the neat part.

You don't.

[acoustic slate]

Trial and error yes, and just learning and getting used to mechanics

[wary ridge]

This game lowkey feels more like a puzzle rather than a tower defense game

[jovial nest]

Yeah I think I've finalized it like that. Reedic will help the entire team a lot more and Sakiko would be one of the main DPSs anyways so Reedic's arts frag helps a lot more than having a 2nd ground DPS nuker

[jovial nest]

for some of the mechanics, sure

especially when it's NPC escorting

like Hortus or those Ch8 hostage puzzle maps

but it's a tower defense through and through. If you really want to feel how tower defensy AK can be, Reclamation Algorithm raid defenses are one of the best examples imo

[jovial nest]

another examples of mechanics that feel very puzzly are redirecting lasers, light, and vehicles using the operators' range direction

[astral cosmos]

what can also feel very puzzly is how the fuck do i dps this 1.2m hp with wind chimes and kirara

[rapid junco]

Buff their atk with all your might

✊

[haughty wave]

Are there single-target DPS charts for ops somewhere?
Looking for low-cost AoE-capable snipers to start off MN-8 with to bring down the drones

This games relies so much on picking the right ops for the job, but I feel there's no enough constraint finders in terms of community tools

[south spindle]

uh you can try the DPS Bot that is in DragonGJY's discord server
He doesn't run the bot himself

[south spindle]

Yes it does, best you get is asking #help

And hoping someones already have the graph at hand for an operator

Or are willing to do it for you

[haughty wave]

My main problem rn is that I obviously have a limited selection of ops, because I've only recently started the game
So I can't test if they pass the DPS check before I level, and I don't have resources to level everyone

[south spindle]

Well if you ask #help and drop your roster, can easily put together a team + tell you what to prioritize

[serene hornet]

know what you need, know what you will be facing, know what to do, and trial and error prob

[south spindle]

Theres not much you have a newbie and most of it isn't great

But we kind of already have it figured out what a newbie should build

[haughty wave]

I guess this is a "the database is the community" kind of thing, huh.

[south spindle]

Just drop your roster, sorted by rarity, just have like the first 2-3 screenshots worth of operators

[haughty wave]

yeah i'll drop krooster

[south spindle]

yeah kind of... its alot to do with the fact that the optimal choices are ever shifting

like you can build whatever and be fine

but if you want the best choices you go to #help and you will get catered advice

[haughty wave]

Yeah, I feel there's a lot of freedom, which is precisely why I wanted to solve for it myself

[south spindle]

You can do the math yourself

[haughty wave]

I just don't have the data or a good filtering toolkit

[south spindle]

I can check your math

[haughty wave]

😭

[south spindle]

and tell you where it went wrong just @ me

[haughty wave]

Wish I had a second me to contribute to Arknights community tools to make it exactly how I want to be
like an "operator constraint finder" of sorts

Regretfully, I'm stuck with maintaining Hoyoverse stuff instead

[serene hornet]

maintaining hoyoverse stuff

[south spindle]

Would be lovely to have someone unlazy enough to make a new DPS website
The old one has been abandoned over a year ago, rip Viktorlabs

the DPS bot isn't bad just not always the most accurate but its good enough for most people

I usually do my own calcs
especially because often doing it situational or doing brand new operators

[haughty wave]

I think I'll only have to roll in once Endfield comes out, I've kinda more institutional knowledge and toolset with this kind of game

[scarlet fulcrum]

hack and slash, not surprising

[haughty wave]

not that, more the game architecture

adding it to Enka for example will be trivial (if it will have a showcase system) because most of the character composition assumptions are genshinlike

[serene hornet]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Enka as in genre song

[haughty wave]

nah, short from Enkanomiya
my le genshin website

[serene hornet]

You know that GI and AK are a lot different than you thought right?

[scarlet fulcrum]

L

[haughty wave]

it's kinda like krooster essentially

[serene hornet]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nothing new for smt like this, lot same ppl comes and gones

[haughty wave]

Architecturally, very similar
When I was rewriting the backend to accommodate for HSR & ZZZ, I made normalizations so the stat calcs, artifacts and equipment roughly normalize into the same data structures so the components could be reused
when making this normalization, i referred to gfl2 and endfield schemas and general game design to make it future-proof for any kind of game of this sort

[serene hornet]

i actually don't understand your point here...

sorry...

[south spindle]

they mean making a framework that works for many games of the endfield style

[glass monolith]

I won't back read what the fuck that was and will throw stone at next "genshinlike"

[serene hornet]

you better not

[south spindle]

but this isn't genshin is is arknights

[haughty wave]

From the top:
I wish I could dedicate time to making Arknights tools
I don't have enough time to get into an entirely different game type, sadly
That said, when Endfield comes out, I will be able to at least implement Endfield on my website, because I've laid the groundwork for another "open world gacha" game to be added, because all of them are architecturally similar

[glass monolith]

What arknight tool you could possibly make which we don't have

[haughty wave]

^

[serene hornet]

Ok

[south spindle]

I think they mean like a new Viktorlabs sort of DPS

[serene hornet]

[haughty wave]

As a new player, there's no tool that I could find to quickly explore my options in terms of "this stage has these constraints, which operators do I have that I can level that will satisfy these constraints"

[south spindle]

Uh well thing is AK has so much possibilities thats not really needed

[glass monolith]

So basically you making practice plans of AK

[haughty wave]

And by constraints I mean target count, range, DPS, DP cost, etc
Just because I am not familiar with the gorillion characters that are there and even those that I have unleveled

[south spindle]

I see I think alot of it can be covered by aceship which does let you filter somethings though im not sure exactly

[glass monolith]

Cool idea but why emulate AK when you can practice plan and I believe CN got update to remove sanity loss on defeat completely

[haughty wave]

I can't check if a character passes the DPS check before I level them, or how their E1 behaves for example

[south spindle]

yeah thing is theres so much to operators and stages that its going to be pretty steep with so many

[haughty wave]

I have resources, I just don't know who to allocate them to

[scarlet fulcrum]

If u exclude few ops u probably will just do fine

[south spindle]

like i get you want to know the exact numbers but like really

we know off the top of our heads the

top 20% of worthwhile

operators to even build

[glass monolith]

You can. Play stage. Record it. Count number of hits on enemy. Use Excel and known exact numbers to see when is next threshold to kill 1 attack sooner etc

[south spindle]

just by a glance at your roster

like its hard to kind of numerically put everything

[serene hornet]

[haughty wave]

Too much work because at this point it's easier to just ask lol
If I had a quick tool, I could use the tool, but with absence of such, I'll just ask the collective database of mind

[south spindle]

yes its good reference but going off pure numbers often doesn't justify operators

[serene hornet]

yea just ask

[haughty wave]

i'm compiling it in help atm

[serene hornet]

that's... why we're here

[haughty wave]

actually you know what, i'll drop it here instead, help is too lively

this is more dead i like here more

[south spindle]

a lot of advice is given relative to an account

its almost impossible to make it objectively

[glass monolith]

Tool which runs perfect emulation of AK to know if shit works. Sounds little complex to get don't you think?
If you manage, go ahead. Just sounds like vertical wall and give up before results to me

[south spindle]

theres a reason everyone hates tierlists

[serene hornet]

There's a lot of reasons, in fact

[south spindle]

thank you

[glass monolith]

Idk I loved "PvP tier list of supporters"

[serene hornet]

[haughty wave]

That's a reach, perfect emulation is not needed at all, nor are exact numbers, I just wanted a rough sorted list within my constraints between who I have lol

anyway

[south spindle]

I mean by all means would love to see it, and even help develop if you get to implementing operators calcs

[haughty wave]

We come back to the "not enough time" part

[south spindle]

Just dont know how useful some things will be realistically given its not that hard to figure out these stats

[haughty wave]

https://krooster.com/u/algoinde
MN-8 is the stage I'm trying to do. It has the funny drones that you need to kill before they fly away, and only Kroos has barely enough DPS to cover for one side. The other side just yeets off.
This is complicated by the fact that this DPS needs to be low DP, or else the middle dies.

[south spindle]

I see it as: average player doesn't care and most things work for general content

And the try hard players will find a way to find out and the list of meta operators isn't that much

[haughty wave]

Is there a low-DP aerial AoE in my roster?

[south spindle]

I mean theres alot of stages for you to do and you dont necessarily need to rush anything at the moment
You're new so you're not expected to do somethings

[glass monolith]

Low DP AoE don't exist (1 star collab cat sont attack air)

[south spindle]

Like going for Aerial AoE isn't something people focus on building

[haughty wave]

I want to do MN-8 for mats to go Beanstalk E2

[south spindle]

Its literally a matter of hey these operators are decent we should build them

what does MN-8 have

[haughty wave]

magnesium

[glass monolith]

Are you sure your farming planner not screwing with you?

[haughty wave]

judging by penguin drops, very good stage to farm sanity wise

[glass monolith]

Are you sure it is "This MN-8" not "When event was running MN-8"?

[south spindle]

Uh do u not have 3-2 unlocked?

[serene hornet]

[haughty wave]

that one has abysmal drop rates

[south spindle]

3-2 is 40~ sanity per mango
MN-8 is 62 average

[haughty wave]

there is a difference?
it does say both "rerun" and the original one too

[haughty wave]

HEH? one sec

[serene hornet]

i will not try to understand why you need beanstalk E2 instead of leveling up your Surtr to...idk better than lvl 1?

[south spindle]

things in the side stories are usually garbage
they are NOT the same rate as when they were proper events

[serene hornet]

[haughty wave]

am I le wrong

then what is rerun, is that not the side story version?

[glass monolith]

Show filter setting

[south spindle]

rerun is when an event is reran...

this is now a permanent event

[south spindle]

meaning you should look for

MN-8 (Side Story)

[glass monolith]

That's issue, you not filtering out stages which are no more

[haughty wave]

confusing but thank you

[south spindle]

what you should do is go to material then sort by sanity

[haughty wave]

limited events should not be a thing in games btw

[haughty wave]

thank you, didn't know

[south spindle]

events debut
rerun 1 year later (same drop rates, better than main story)
then added to side story tab (abysmal rates)

limited banners are a thing

[serene hornet]

it is a thing in these kinds of games, so deal with it
you will be surprised later on

[south spindle]

the only true limited events are collab ones and like CCs and very specific stages that dont come back

[haughty wave]

that said, I ran a few of MN-7 and got very good drop rates on the gel

[south spindle]

https://penguin-stats.io/result/item/31013

[haughty wave]

so i guess i just got lucky and it reinforced the confirmation bias

[south spindle]

sort by sanity / item

[haughty wave]

that's precisely what i did
Minus said that you also need a filter to exclude dead stages

why it's not on by default is...

[south spindle]

uh are u search by item instead of stage

and by default dead stages aren't included for me

weird

[haughty wave]

yes

https://penguin-stats.io/result/item/30083

had to apply the filter manually

[south spindle]

interesting

for me its like this by default

maybe just browser cookies thing

[haughty wave]

it's less deal with it and more "the FOMO can go fuck itself lol, I'm doing it at my own pace"

stopped doing genshin events 2 years ago, feels excellent

[serene hornet]

[haughty wave]

anyway

let's come back to mn-8 because the story is actually pretty good

if i don't need to farm it, should i just borrow wisadel and yolo ig?

[serene hornet]

yes?

[haughty wave]

i guess i'll let the drones go and see if 4/8 things are enough for the stage with fuckoff dps present

[serene hornet]

also in the near future when you can actually farm current event stages, you should have plenty of them

[haughty wave]

yeah i farmed the shit out of the ireland

that thing solely leveled like 8 ops for me

gigamoney at level 30

[haughty wave]

Yeah, saves the filter.
Thanks for the help yall, will come back when I need more strategy help :)

[south spindle]

[serene hornet]

[regal frost]

congrats on mod

[serene hornet]

Oh you're mod now
I guess that's why you're now light blue instead of...red if i remember correctly?

[haughty wave]

oh that's why their name suddenly blue

lul

[south spindle]

🥹 hi suraj

[regal frost]

hiii

[south spindle]

lol the blue scared me too

[haughty wave]

Surtr is now almost done in terms of mat farm for E2, and leveled. Just didn't import yet
(and i just like how versatile beanstalk is)

[regal frost]

hermitz is also mod now

didn't realise so many people got accepted

[haughty wave]

btw why not pull kernel

that's where i got surtr from

took like 15 pulls

[regal frost]

pull kernel and I shoot

[haughty wave]

15 shots then

[regal frost]

kernel overall just isn't worth it, blue certs are horrible and surtr is gonna be free in a few months anyway

[scarlet fulcrum]

If only they know

[serene hornet]

more like if only they read pins in #help

[glass monolith]

Nobody reads manual until it is broken

[haughty wave]

you've been on discord long enough to know that pins are functionally invisible
in fact, discord sucks balls for guides and structured info visibility in general

[scarlet fulcrum]

Breaking puzzle is easy

[maiden hound]

what does that mean...

[dapper hedge]

And you can get sutr for free in 6 months

[scarlet fulcrum]

That type of ppl

[haughty wave]

pog P1 surtr

[dapper hedge]

Atp it should be a good habit to check pins tbh

It where most of the important shit is.

Or yknow.

Using the search function

[scarlet fulcrum]

Dude think pot is impactful icant

[haughty wave]

which doesn't work unless you hit the keywords perfectly
i've long abandoned pins for need-to-know information storage, dedicated channels with a table of contents linking into threads are better
and what's even more better is an actual blog (nobody does blogs nowadays)

[serene hornet]

i guess the real story behind my newbie status will stay there

[maiden hound]

yes mr computer wizard please fix our infrastructure

[haughty wave]

i guess another thing is i tend not to search for "newbie guides", it's more fun to explore the game mechanics yourself
bricking accounts is fun

if you dumped 120 pulls into kernel due to not knowing that's just a skill issue honestly

[serene hornet]

well different people different gamestyle

[haughty wave]

i just want the story pretty much

[scarlet fulcrum]

its certainly notbad excuse

[thorn zinc]

Guys i need big help for r8-8

[pearl compass]

Secret End or just complete?

[thorn zinc]

Just completing it

[pearl compass]

Then take Pozy or YatoAlter from SupportUnit.

Kill the Mortar Drone one by one with Yato or Pozy's crossbow from safe position.

If you do it fast, maybe you'll fulfill Secret End condition as well.

[full terrace]

Borrow Lappcaster

That stage was done with bunch of E0 Lv1s

You should perform better

[thorn zinc]

May i borrow your lapp

[full terrace]

Sure

Whats your username

[plucky grove]

the days of goldenglow r8-8 are no more

[thorn zinc]

Nvm got it with a random lappland

Thank you very much tho

Youre goated

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[noble hollow]

we love arflanyr

[bronze cave]

this is my current team, who should i switch? too many ops of a specific role? i still dont get team building

and also i have that 5 star building item thing who should i use it on

[plucky grove]

the way i do teambuilding is to just play stages and if im like "man i really need more ranged ops" or "man i really need more healing" then thats how i end up making a functional team

couple things that stand out for your team
both hoshi and nian which is probably not necessary i feel like? id replace one of them with a guard like maybe mountain, bit more ground dps
two healers is fine but both are the multitarget ones, id probably replace one of them (probably perfumer) with whisperrain since the range could be useful

[south spindle]

Your main things to prio building are some mods:
Logos mod3, Silverash mod3, and Nightingale ModX1

Make sure you have masteries on appropriate skills

[plucky grove]

i feel like amiya might have fairly low contribution in this squad too, but i cant think of a suitable replacement

[south spindle]

they dont really need mountain or more low ground

Just would be nice to get some agent vanguard like Ines upcoming sometime

for the 5* E2 voucher, go grab Tequila from the ST story line, in the event 'Dossoles Holiday'

@bronze cave

also these types of general questions are for #help
strategy is for specific stages

[plucky grove]

do they really need tequila?

[south spindle]

Its good for base

Few other 5* are worth it anyways

None they own atleast

[plucky grove]

true

[bronze cave]

im trying to slot lin in

[plucky grove]

lin is too niche for general use in my experience

also i just noticed youre using logos s1 and not s3, so i suppose amiya burst damage is doing something, but personally id just be using logos s3

[south spindle]

Ah I miss lin

[bronze cave]

whoops

[south spindle]

But shes still one of their better upgrades

Already decent investment into Lin

[bronze cave]

i swear i changed it

[south spindle]

So should E2 her

[plucky grove]

yeah lin just keeps getting better the more you upgrade her which is nice

[south spindle]

Yeah so again prio Logos mod3 above everything, then his S3 masteries
Then silverash mod + masteries

[brisk surge]

S1

[plucky grove]

man i gotta max mod my SA but i swear it feels like i rarely deploy him these days

[south spindle]

i mean if you have better operators yea

oops also missed Fedex,

Exec2 also wants mod3

[bronze cave]

i need to do story to get logos mod ;-;

[plucky grove]

whats his mod condition lmao

[south spindle]

so like Logos > Exec2 > Silverash upgrade/module prio

11-6

[plucky grove]

oh thats kinda evil for new players

[bronze cave]

im not even that new i took an insane break

[south spindle]

insane mod on already strong caster

it can stil be grabbed within first month of playing

but its a little steep

[plucky grove]

they kept the thing where you could just skip the reunion arc right?

[plucky grove]

also true, definitely not a new players acc lol

[south spindle]

Uh beat 3-8 to skip to Act 2 or 3

[bronze cave]

anyway thanks yall! im just gonna spend my sanity on story i guess

[plucky grove]

ah I see

[bleak lodge]

Probably need 2 healers for this no?

[acoustic slate]

It will make things comfy, though eblana’s summons can probably tank a lot. Bring gravel to this stage, and every stage with the sarkaz binding casters

[full terrace]

Your Ptilopsis is enough

But you can draft multiple Medics yes

But anyway, Ptilopsis and Silence should get you the clear

[bleak lodge]

Il prob just use support wis

[full terrace]

Wis is overkill but go ahead

She can solo anyway

[bleak lodge]

OH ITS YOU

[acoustic slate]

This map kind of baits you bc you need to cluster your ops around the red box, and then posts bind caster, so it’s an exercise in deployment order and taunt management. Gravel is great here

[bleak lodge]

I was literally going to follow your vid hahha

[bleak lodge]

Yea I feel like you need to be quick to take out units for sp maybe too

[south spindle]

Arf is famous

[acoustic slate]

Yeah you gotta stop the dogs quick
Then heal the blockers quick
Then cover the healers by deploying someone else

[south spindle]

[acoustic slate]

And you don’t know when the caster comes bc they are in attack range the second they show up

[bleak lodge]

I mean I need at least 2 or even 3 healers for this and until now I only used 1 healer and since mon was coming I didn’t feel spending resources on another just for it to be perma or almost perma benched

Wiscadel is a blessing

I gave a like on your vid since no one else gave @full terrace

[full terrace]

Mon3tr is coming, if I were you I'd clear the stages quick for OPs to pull her, and then if there is anything I want to farm I'll come back later to make auto

[full terrace]

Well thanks 😂

[bleak lodge]

That’s precisely my plan, I got 40 pulls already

[acoustic slate]

Get this mans a green name 🗣️ 🔊

[bleak lodge]

What’s thaaaaat

What’s that guys

[full terrace]

Content Creator role, it has green color

[bleak lodge]

You should have on that case, you post very helpful content

What are these mods doin

[full terrace]

Nah I'm not a content creator, I'm just a #strategy dweller. Reason I posted at youtube is because discord has 100 MB video limit

[bleak lodge]

I see

[full terrace]

Everytime I want to post a video I have to compress, thats annoying

Anyway yeah I help people clear stages

Newbies especially

[bleak lodge]

Can I ping you if I have any question?

About strategy

[full terrace]

Sure

[bleak lodge]

(I won’t spam dw)

[full terrace]

Yeah I dont mind pings if it's people asking for help

[rapid junco]

@scarlet fulcrum
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ge_aVdX28hE&si=lMI5yMwDNFIDdcXC

[bronze cave]

wait e2 tequila was for base? ive been using him in levels bruh

[south spindle]

Both

[bronze cave]

im a tweaker gg

he's been doing good dmg though

[south spindle]

He’s incredibly strong for 5* dps too

Yeap

He’s the most recommended 5* for newbies with raw numbers

[bronze cave]

can you make his sp regen faster with other operators or something

[maiden hound]

i would not recommend it

since he needs 40s to fully charge himself (read trait)

[bronze cave]

ahh that makes sense

i just plopped him in

[dusty sigil]

Whoever gave the info chernobog was the easiest annihilation... thank you:D

[scarlet fulcrum]

Simp song but nice 👍

[rapid junco]

It's good because it's simp song

[scarlet fulcrum]

U can clear active rotation with those ops too 👍

[rapid junco]

E2 lunacub are wild but we not talk about it

[topaz tapir]

How tf

Do I actually need everyone at Lv40 at least

[acoustic slate]

Level suggestions are pretty meaningless

This looks like placement issue a bit

[topaz tapir]

The only under leveled character I had was Specter Lv40 but everyone else was at least E1Lv20+

[scarlet fulcrum]

E0 shaw will solve ur problem, also bring medic if u cant time spot

[topaz tapir]

Do I place em in the only ranged spot left

This is the team btw

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bring e0 shaw, raise her skill to lv4

[acoustic slate]

What skill lvl is Lappland btw

[weak gazelle]

this map heavily favor shifter
bring 1 pusher and 1 puller already solve half of the problem

[topaz tapir]

Lv7

[topaz tapir]

I don't have a puller tho

[acoustic slate]

No rope?

[topaz tapir]

Nope

And I need 2 more dualchips for another chip pack

[acoustic slate]

Cursed as it is, manual farm wouldn’t be bad

[scarlet fulcrum]

Shaw free from story btw

Its 1-12 or smt

[weak gazelle]

only need rope skill lvl 4
lvl doesnt matter
but seem like you dont have her

[topaz tapir]

I have her

[weak gazelle]

well can get gladiia if want puller but it took too much effort

[topaz tapir]

Who from where?

[topaz tapir]

What's rope skill

[weak gazelle]

under the tide(?)
idr tho

s1 for rope

[acoustic slate]

Better use of sanity would be to just borrow for a couple runs to farm

[topaz tapir]

Where's that?

[weak gazelle]

side story

[noble pewter]

maybe just bring some sustain or healer ?

[topaz tapir]

Which side story

[pearl compass]

Under Tides.

Iberia (Ae) tag.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Bring medic like other said, show ur medics

If u want 8 guard chips right away just play IS monthly squad

[acoustic slate]

[scarlet fulcrum]

Hopefully they have silence or ptilo, since they will trivialize it

[topaz tapir]

What's monthly squad

[scarlet fulcrum]

Its on integrated strategy Mode, u unlock it after 3-8 cleared.

[scarlet fulcrum]

Deploy ptilo beside shaw

[topaz tapir]

What skill levels

[scarlet fulcrum]

Lv4 fine

Eventually u want ptilo on lv7

Since she is decent medic, no need to hesitate. But if ur resources limited rn just as high as u could

[topaz tapir]

Shit I can't defend early gane

[sly drift]

Use more vanguard

Or maybe place Fang differently and deploy Laneholder to cover all lane before ranged

Also art damage looks favored there.

[glass monolith]

You can have Ptilo on any of sniper spots cover both tiles above banned one for vanguards/defenders. Also I believe water will wipe out some of enemies early... If I recall stage right

[pearl compass]

There's two waves of sea, yeah

First one is melee only, second is all tiles

[glass monolith]

I'm more interested in which enemies will get removed by waves, he deployed 5 bodies covering 2 lanes while 2 lanes unprotected

[sly drift]

-1
Tripping on random mob

[serene hornet]

[topaz tapir]

Like this?

[keen flower]

Kurfürstenplatz

[glass monolith]

I cast beyblade

[serene hornet]

I have a couple

[keen flower]

Need ulpianus

[bleak lodge]

Hey I’m stuck at 5-4 and I don’t have acess to max level Narantuya @full terrace

[pearl compass]

[bleak lodge]

This level should be illegal

[pearl compass]

Anti Aerial on drone spawn.

But before that some Vanguards or cheap ops to kill ground enemy vanguard.

Change into Defenders or self-sustaining ops later on close to base.

Jebate the bomb drones with FastRedeploy.

That's all.

[bleak lodge]

What’s anti aerial

[pearl compass]

Marksman or any Ranged ops who capable shoot down drones.

Exusiai, Kroos, Jessica, May...

They will help take down troops as well if you put them correctly.

[bleak lodge]

They did for a bit but then drones killed on like not even half of the level

[pearl compass]

As I said

[bleak lodge]

Fast redeploy is like taking them out before they die?

And I don’t think it was the bomb drones that killed them but the ones before them

[dapper hedge]

[dapper hedge]

Fast redeploy is operator that has low redeploy timer

So you can use them to bait strong attacks in this case.

E.g: the drone bomb.

[bleak lodge]

Yup but as I said they didn’t die to the drone bomb they died to the other one

Or like

I use them on the first ones

[dapper hedge]

Retreat them

Dont make them stay on the map

[bleak lodge]

Okok

[dapper hedge]

Their job is just to bait the bomb

[shrewd fractal]

guys what happens if in stages with roadblocks, i use the roadblocks to block the enemy entry points

will it force the enemies to come out from another entry point

i'm kinda curious but i dont feel like wasting sanity/drill plans to find out lol

[pearl compass]

All enemies comes from certain redbox as programmed so, with certain timestamp or the kill triggers.

They goes to the certain bluebox as well, not the most closest to them.

[shrewd fractal]

yeah but if you put the roadblock right in front of the red box, what will happen

[eternal rapids]

If u mean that u can place a roadblock infront of the red boxes so they come out another

No

[pearl compass]

Error.

[shrewd fractal]

huh

will the game break lol

[pearl compass]

You cannot enclose the only path to bluebox.

So the game DOESN'T ALLOW it to deploy

[shrewd fractal]

damn

you've tried it before??

[eternal rapids]

Ye that also it's like 1 drill plan bro

just try it out

[pearl compass]

You can try it yourself.

[eternal rapids]

They refresh daily and u get like 30

[shrewd fractal]

i've wasted enough on trying 100000 different strats on the same stage

[full terrace]

Gimme your username

[fickle ravine]

Game won’t allow you to deploy roadblocks in that case

[pearl compass]

It just BEB-BEB and right pop-up window will say that.

[eternal rapids]

Which stage?

[shrewd fractal]

3-7 (yes i'm poopoo i know)

it's mostly the damn invisible casters, they like to stand right outside my op's attack range and give them backshots

[eternal rapids]

You can ask arf here for a guide

[shrewd fractal]

nah i could just look up another kyostinv guide i guess

just tryna figure out how to game their ai bc they're like professional ragebaiters

[pearl compass]

Actually, you may to roadblock all legal path to bluebox. In Ep9 with dropping pillars.

In THAT case, enemies will try to come with shortest way to the bluebox possible and break the roadblock they will collide first.

After roadblock been destroyed, the enemy AI will go again to opened path way.

[shrewd fractal]

interesting

[bleak lodge]

Verdis, but I was able to brute force it with wis and some ranged plus healers and tanks

[full terrace]

Welp, congrats I guess

[shrewd fractal]

bruh why didnt i think of this lmao

genius

[pearl compass]

[eternal rapids]

Whats happening on the right side bro

[shrewd fractal]

wdym

[pearl compass]

[shrewd fractal]

he blocked it off too ofc

aight time to smash this stage

[eternal rapids]

wheres ur 6*? 😨

[lapis hornet]

opie strat

[shrewd fractal]

this is a kyostinv guide lmao

ofc i have 6*

[eternal rapids]

o maybe try to include ur 6* in the guide too

To like test things out y'know

[shrewd fractal]

do you know who is kyostinv lol

i'm not him

he's the madlad who does low rarity playthroughs for ppl like me who have room temp iq, just to show that he can

[eternal rapids]

❤️‍🔥

[shrewd fractal]

stage smashed

[hoary bluff]

Hemlo peeps of #strategy
Is Sir Arflanyr currently alive? 🛐

[glass monolith]

He took corrosion damage in DH stage and retreated to cleanse DEF debuff

[hoary bluff]

Basically got emotional damage from that stage huh

[glass monolith]

I'm making shit up you can always try to ping him i guess i discord/youtube serch if he did video for your stage if you seek his guide specifically

[hoary bluff]

I'm a bit scared to ping peeps
But since you're here..

I followed his tut of 9-19 and somehow the boss won't die, send help

16 retries and the dude won't hop to death

The tut is now etched onto my brain and yet the dude WON'T DIE

[glass monolith]

You need to get lucky with Kroos alter stun if you want floating dude to hole himself. 9-11, right?

[acoustic slate]

If you just post your question, someone will see it

[hoary bluff]

OH my bad, actually 9-19

[hoary bluff]

Yessir 🛐

[vagrant wren]

How the heck do you survive the firestorm in JT8-3?

The one between boss forms

[full terrace]

Ping away it's fine. For 9-19 Ling strat you need to time the pillar, thats the key

Mandragora has Damage Reduction normally

And this DR will be removed when you pillar her

Its hard to see but I timed it perfectly in the video

The dragon pushes the pillar on her right at the moment she gets her shield up again

[vagrant wren]

I'm pretty sure this is a skill/strat issue on my part, cause my team is solid

[full terrace]

And that removes the DR once more, making it looks like one continuous motion

For Phase 2 down there she gets her shield up when she flies so thats easier to notice

[hoary bluff]

Ah, it's about timing! I see where I did wrong, thank you 🥹

[eternal rapids]

Can use nightingale for the firestorm since her cages can facetank it

[full terrace]

Yah if you dont remove that shield you do no damage

[hoary bluff]

The road to Logos' module ain't easy

[full terrace]

And everything falls apart

[hoary bluff]

Oh I was stressing when the noodles suddenly stopped doing dmgs but I can't figure out why

[vagrant wren]

Ohhh! I haven't had anything survive long enough to notice the projectiles weren't penetrating!!

[full terrace]

Many solution for that.

1. Nightingale. Those fireballs are Arts, and Nightingale neutralizes Arts.
2. Body block, you can deploy some bodies and have them block to reduce healing pressure
3. Logos's Projectile slow down gimmick

[regal frost]

hi can I have your autograph

[full terrace]

Here is a Low-End for JT8-3 featuring Wisadel #strategy message

[eternal rapids]

Will you make IS guides too king arf

[regal frost]

also shu can keep ops alive too

[full terrace]

Probably not, I'm helping newbies mostly, thats why I make only Low-Ends and not High-Ends. IS is kinda mid~late game content I believe people will be able to play by themselves at that point

[glass monolith]

Back when i did that stage i reduced amount of lanes my operators occupy so i just hand to keep 2 operators alive to keep "all" alive

[eternal rapids]

🥹

[regal frost]

show team?

[full terrace]

@regal frost bro

Come help my alt do Expert Bastion

[regal frost]

I haven't even done beginner 😭

[full terrace]

Its okay I'll create the room

[pearl compass]

Skill issue

[regal frost]

lemme finish my hot chocolate

[pearl compass]

Mine

[regal frost]

my roster can't handle it

[pearl compass]

[full terrace]

I failed at final boss twice now, doing it with randos is painful bro

[regal frost]

who should I bring?

[full terrace]

Got no such issue on my main account bro

[pearl compass]

Yeah, they're trying to damage them with one unit and boss is fucking staying a lot in the ass

[full terrace]

My alt is kinda weak

[full terrace]

Okay you bring err

Global rangers

[pearl compass]

I really helping both of me and my randos by splitboxing the boss in right direction

[regal frost]

your alt is more stacked than my alt

[pearl compass]

[regal frost]

sure

[full terrace]

Lappcaster and Goldenglow and Yu

You have them built?

[regal frost]

they've been in my squad for the whole event

[full terrace]

The problem with the final boss is that

It hits 4~5 tiles away

And each hit hurts like hell

Like Shu can only survive 2~3 hits

Ulpi maybe 4 hits

So you need global rangers, FRDs

Those kind

The portable dps

[regal frost]

st or mt? for boss attacks

[full terrace]

Single

Can bait but I mean

He walks so slow bro

And we got time limit

[regal frost]

can just do schizo ah that's what I did last time I think

[full terrace]

Cannot. Ulpi got killed in 4 hits

Maybe 5

Just bring global rangers bro

Easy finish

[regal frost]

oki

[vagrant wren]

Team for JT8-3 followed by default team

[full terrace]

Here is a Low-End for JT8-3 featuring Wisadel #strategy message

[regal frost]

you have ng that should clear easily

bring a second medic maybe

[eternal rapids]

Should work with Saria and ng keeping everyone alivr

[vagrant wren]

I've failed dozens of times

[regal frost]

record it, I'll look at it when I'm free

[vagrant wren]

Saria dies instantly? Even with NG skill active?

[eternal rapids]

U can leave mountain on a lane and I'm pretty sure he facetanks the firestorm so u got one less lane to worry about

[vagrant wren]

???? Could I have a hard mode on somewhere?

[eternal rapids]

If ur having trouble keeping people alive just borrow shu

[somber falcon]

use s1

s2 is dogshit

[eternal rapids]

Nah mb he doesn't face tank it mb, but ur ng should keep him alive along with saria

[vagrant wren]

Watching the video, I think my issue might be that I'm killing the boss too early, and not waiting until a lul in waves or banking enough DP first

[eternal rapids]

Also u can borrow shu

[lapis hornet]

your problem is use s1

[vagrant wren]

When I got her, everyone said build S3, it's hands down the best. Six months latter I'm called stupid for using s3, it's s2 all the way. Now it's s1?

[somber falcon]

s1 always been the tank skill

because it only activates when needed + lots of heal

s3 is buffer skill

different usage

[eternal rapids]

U got fed misinfo

[somber falcon]

also ^

s2 seems nice since "no need for medic" but it quickly folds under pressure

because it heals a pittance and takes 8 seconds

[eternal rapids]

U can stack up uses of heal from s1 too 😋

[lapis hornet]

s2 is a qol skill at most

last time it was hyped was like 2020

[vagrant wren]

Do I at least have the right module?

[lapis hornet]

y better for general use ya

[south spindle]

ModY1 it doesn’t need levels

[topaz tapir]

How do I beat this with no support

[topaz tapir]

Skullshatterer just deals too much damage

They get alot of shots off due to the map not allowing you to immediately bodyblock

[glass monolith]

Bodyblocking Skullshatter is top 1 thing NOT to do against her because she does 4x times damage in melee compared to ranged shots

[static geyser]

Can someone make a team for me for Annihilation because idk how to do it

[vital vessel]

first anni ig?

chernobog?

[vital vessel]

basically everyone that's e1 right now can clear, just try it, you can force close the game to get your sanity back

[young ridge]

This person well played !!
I run two games with him (exchange line mode) once with full set of casters only, the second with full set of guards only and he carried better then me 😂 .. if you are here .. my hats off to you

[lapis hornet]

i dunno how to play I need opie coach

too hard for new players

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use pluma s2, she will melt boss

[scarlet fulcrum]

Use krooster+kroos and u will be fine with trust issue

[north jungle]

Got Ifrit from Top Operator, what are the preferred skill mastery and mod?

[regal frost]

#help also S3M3 but idk which mod is best

[static geyser]

How can you tell theyre e1?

[violet sorrel]

any suggest?

this thing so annoying

[vital vessel]

there's also guides on youtube if you'd like to check it out

[vital vessel]

bait the shit, kill the spawners, idk your squad

[vital vessel]

@static geyser

[violet sorrel]

lapp2 wolf doesnt kill in time

[vital vessel]

virtuosa

[somber falcon]

[violet sorrel]

tried, can't kill in one skill
the spawner i mean

[vital vessel]

both

[weak gazelle]

this map is a rare moment where besieger archetype shine

[rapid junco]

Never doubted my bear

[weak gazelle]

doubt bear mean asking to get killed

[rapid junco]

[vital vessel]

what if i doubt a different bear

[rapid junco]

I send you to north pole

[vital vessel]

[weak gazelle]

:ya:

[topaz tapir]

Huh is S2 only for Bosses cuz people use S1 mainly

(Also what skill levels)

[scarlet fulcrum]

Nah this boss just trash, s2 if u want her to do smt. S1 just lazy mobbing

Lv7

No need 1:1 just add more ops

[neon lotus]

I just learned from her paradox simulation that nightingale's summons don't expire if you keep them alive.. is there any operator that can keep them alive indefinitely?

[narrow pendant]

Whoever can outheal the hp loss

[hoary bluff]

Man, I'm still stuck at 9-19 🥹
Is there any other strat for that level?

[somber falcon]

drop pillar(s) on mandra before bursting her

[civic bear]

Drop pillar- dmg -pillar -dmg
Revive
Pillar-dmg-pillar-dmg

Can block after she gets pillared for a while so that's how you keep her in range

[pearl compass]

You can even stall Phase 1 completely and just kill her through DR.

DR is useless when Mandra can't do anything to release herself.

[exotic grove]

trying to clear IW-9
I looked up some guides but can't get past 3rd stage, my defenders get one shotted by the laser
anything I can do?

[maiden hound]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Gw4m117oF/
Wis solo here

[hoary bluff]

Definitely a skill issue on my part

It's the last part now, the ground shit became the flying shit and here I am with my shit timing failing

[somber falcon]

still same mechanic
use the pillars

[exotic grove]

how do I put her in

(thanks)

[hoary bluff]

Yeah, I have shit timing??

[glass monolith]

You can drop pillars to 0 HP before flipping, if you miss them afterwards - u issie

[pearl compass]

Bro, I need that your toy rn.

[exotic grove]

holy cheese
wisadel is insane

literally laughing from how easy that was
thank u

[stray forum]

this is a real ad btw

[pearl compass]

STRATEGY MY ASS

[twin jacinth]

stupid question, is there a specific way to increase the chance of getting that event that lets you get all the king's relics in is5? or is it just luck of having a series of events line up in the right way

[pearl compass]

Pure luck.

You have the other option to get all Kings almost every time tho.

[dapper hedge]

No its just luck

Getting kings relic is way easier with lamp than just gambling for the encounter anw

[twin jacinth]

other option?

perhaps im stupid but what is the way involving the lamp?

iirc i got an event that allowed me to get all of them because i had the lamp but that was actually the first time i've seen that event

[pearl compass]

Did you saw the Lamp description that it "triggers wondrous effects in Wish Fulfilled"?

[twin jacinth]

... oh the thing with having 1 hp meaning it shows the kings relics as an option

[pearl compass]

With Lamp, every Wish node will have an 3rd option above, which relic is ALWAYS determined to the condition you are right now.

If you had an 6☆ that might be buffed by Hand relic, but you don't have it, it'll 100% gives THAT HAND.

No exceptions.

[twin jacinth]

that would explain why i always get the caster or specialist one since i almost always have logos or ascalon lol

[pearl compass]

That is also counts for Kings.

[twin jacinth]

yeah i see on the wiki that the condition for it to show as an option is to be 1 hp

[twin jacinth]

i guess i could try spearhead squad lol

[pearl compass]

Just go with Yellow Toll.

Every node you pass with filled Thoughts in Yellow bar, it'll always reduce your current BaseHP by -1.

It's most easiest way to trigger King's effect.

And it won't go below 1.

And it also doesn't care about BaseShields.

So you can have 30+ HP, and still have King's Relics activated.

So if you on 1 HP, just reroll node to Wish.

And the very first option will be... the Hand actually, because the priority.

And then next Wish - the King's.

[rapid junco]

[twin jacinth]

is there a similar concept to the kings relics in IS4/3?

[maiden hound]

there is king relic in those 2 but it's rare

[wicked minnow]

they are kinda balls in is3/4 because you usually wanna be at high LP so that you can stack shields

[dapper hedge]

There isnt rly a way to guarantee get all the king relics either.

[twin jacinth]

just trying to get a feel for the general strategies for the other IS now that I hit 155 in IS5

[pearl compass]

More like...
You just cannot go 1 HP easily.

[wicked minnow]

that too. it's kinda ass ngl

[dapper hedge]

I mean you can leak

But leaking suck ass on those 2 is

[pearl compass]

Kings in IS3/4 has two sides:

• They never work and you just have +BaseHP Relics and BaseHP restore.
• ...if you even have a case, USUALLY (!) it doesn't matter because it will occur when all your ops are dead and you have 1 second to live because dog is coming to your exposed base.

Yeah.

[rapid junco]

Minus light early suck bro

No passive -1 hp per round also kill kings relic, unless you play head squad, but that annoying Regen lp talent tree also suck

😭

[limpid ore]

wonder why they dont make shield replenish after combat anymore like in is2

[twin jacinth]

my experience with is4 so far is basically... wow, without the buffs from the reconstruction or whatever it is called in is4, shit dies very slowly

[limpid ore]

just call it tech tree

[full terrace]

Lemme give you tips to memorize timing:

• Firstly, go try and fail the stage to find this "oh I must use XX skill in this frame".
• When you found that frame/timing, pause the game and look at your surrounding then find something to be used as a marker, it can be anything, for example X enemy in this position, DP is at 72, this boss hits for 5 times, Y enemy entered this operator's range.
• Now go replay the stage and execute things perfectly like you did in previous attempt up until this frame
• Now use the skill.

Rinse and repeat the process for more critical steps and you'll get it

If you look closer at my videos you'd see I always do a perfect deploy timing, like when a unit needs 18 DP to be deployed, I wait for 18 DP exactly and have it deployed, this is the main reason: I sometimes use the DP as a marker for timing.

For Mandragora btw, you can count her number of attacks.

[lapis hornet]

why yall running potato phones

madge

[young ridge]

I'm thinking of making a full team of healers only and play line-up exchange mode with someone 😃

[maiden hound]

casuals may mald and report when seeing sometjing as glorious as a nicheknights player in action 😔

[wary wing]

inb4 "nicheknight" without kalt, Mon3tr reed amiya or hibis

[maiden hound]

surely vendela crutch....

[somber falcon]

follinic carry, trust 💪

[hoary bluff]

Heck yeahhhhhh

IW-9 wasn't this hard iirc back then lmao

[glass monolith]

Well beauty of AK to make different troubles for players to overcome

IW-9: Timed, complex pattern, few enemies, counter to enemies counter boss wisps
9-19: No time limit, simple phase 1 boss, need to hold 2 additional lanes, phase 2 forces to pay attention to pillar ranges when deploying

[hoary bluff]

Both were stressing me out but it's actually just my skill lmao

[full terrace]

Congrats there

[hoary bluff]

Ling is really being used in ch 10, I really wanna build her faster now, but Logos' mod have my priority 😔

[hoary bluff]

Thanks for the help! As always

[full terrace]

You are welcome

[wary wing]

me when the trouble is bastion expert

[glass monolith]

My teammate sniped Ascalon, put her on S3 and we lost to melee guys wave

[full terrace]

😂

[sweet marlin]

with ptilopsis, silverash s3 should charge faster than redeploying him right? i did the calc and i think its right. could someone confirm?

[glass monolith]

Well it is known fact or something, not sure if anyone cares

[balmy gust]

What unit would i be missing for my go to team for everything? I love printing dp

[glass monolith]

Gravel AND Red is little overkill, usually one is enough. Outside maybe JT8-3 burn bait strat

[balmy gust]

Gravel is for when red is on cd , but ye rightside units get rotated by other units depending on stage