strategy

[jovial nest]

so much fun to burn

[pure orchid]

yu + globals looks like bullying 😭

as if globals wasnt bad enough

[shadow sage]

can anybody tell me which operators can deal elemental damage (i've come back after like 1-2 years and i'm very behind) also how do i deal with the kidnapper shaped like a cabinet on OR4?

[limpid ore]

check their trait

[maiden hound]

1. all primal casters (diamante nymph etc), all ritualists (valarqvin arturia etc), all primal defenders (yu philae), ifrit, logos, vivi, eben for now
2. dps

[sly drift]

Boss fight is a lot of works. Holy fk... It's this insane and it's only normal stage

[limpid ore]

try kill them before the get to middle part of the stage

[shadow sage]

so just crush the cabinets with hella dps? ok thanks

[limpid ore]

oh, boss just instantly get cooked once it gets blasted by the stove

[sly drift]

Man.. I can see how painful to deal with this boss on Ex and S

[fresh willow]

How do you prevent the pump going red in annihilation 29???

[limpid ore]

use the valve to block water, slosh with more water pump

localised/isolated murder so the blight dont spread

[narrow pendant]

🫡 gonna post this each time

[full terrace]

Timing. Position your Pumps properly. You can watch this for positioning reference #strategy message

[full terrace]

Ritualists (Virtuosa, Tragodia), Primal Defender (Yu), and Primal Caster (Nymph and Blaze) deal elemental damage. Some Modules also allow the user to deal elemental damage (Logos, Viviana, Ifrit).

For OR-4, you assassinate those things before they get to the center

And then use the dragon to clean up the next big wave

I have a recording for this, I just havent uploaded it

[wise perch]

these maps are crazy chaotic lol

[wise perch]

I honestly never figured out what the boss mechanic was cus he just died lol
idk he just got blocked bottom left where your nearl is and he just slowly died?

[fresh willow]

I used this guide but still failed (didnt exactly copy the same ops) (credit : Simplest Methods Researchers' Guild on yt)

[jovial nest]

just fuel your dragon and nuke the boss with it

them getting the dragon nuke is bad

simple as that

[sly drift]

Split block with Spectre. Stalling maybe. So that I have more time to summon red dragon to break boss shield and burst it with some operator there (Spectre and RockRock)

[limpid ore]

or block him from the red chopstick path

[sly drift]

Thing is that boss turn the red chopstick to black and pulled them waaay too fast

[limpid ore]

you need to have the stove ready before phase 2

[narrow pendant]

I just logos/virt his ass

[limpid ore]

and immediately cook him as he become vurnerable

[narrow pendant]

Easy fight

🥱

[limpid ore]

he died to thorn afk slop

[narrow pendant]

He moved 2 tiles before he died

[sly drift]

This is what abusing rarity does to a mfs

[narrow pendant]

Im just playing the game🫡

U got valq and diamante
Go pop off :ya:

[sly drift]

Normal stage boss is still easy (Just long ass fight because mechanic) but for ex and S I think it will be so damn hard, idk

Mechanic is Literally Tug of war

[limpid ore]

eh, it's not long

[sly drift]

Well.. long fight in my case

But I enjoy it. It's not disappointing boss fight.

[exotic grove]

having trouble with this stage
feels like my units do no damage to the butcher enemies

[glass monolith]

If they take low damage from physical, try arts, if arts kills them too slow, defender with enough medics

[exotic grove]

hmm so like click and amiya?
haha thanks ok so doubling up on caster healer and defender worked just barely in practice run

[maiden hound]

yes

[void terrace]

Hmmnn any funny operators other than lappdumb and goldenglow that pair well with Yu's firewall skill

[glass monolith]

Well we will have cursed Ente s2 synergy with it, and mega cursed Phantom alter s2

[maiden hound]

wis revenants

[void terrace]

LoooL

Wait no way

Wis revernants is hillarious

hmm lings dragons perhaps?

The thunderers do arts

Oh ive got a good one. Ifrit would absolutely destroy a targets res

-40 res then minus another 44% res

[full terrace]

Reedic

[full terrace]

If you are lacking dps, just borrow a Wisadel

[jovial nest]

Blazer cause her talent makes burn procs stronger

this is my 4 "burn" ops

[dull talon]

also do i get nymphs module?

nvm

😭

wrong channel and she doesnt have a module

im so cooked

i should sleep

[merry narwhal]

doesn't Tragodia's cat do everything nymph does but better?

[glass monolith]

Well cat has CD while nymph could be SP fueled but basically yes

Pramanix vs Shamare def debuff comparison situation

[lapis hornet]

i knew nymph was overhyped garbo shouldn't have wasted 160 pulls smh

[jovial nest]

there's a consideration

cat has a limit on how far the enemy can u-turn

[scarlet mortar]

there're many ways to debuff the cat, including rdp increases and tile banning

[jovial nest]

Nymph returns them based on their actual speed

creating a perfect stall loop

Tragodia can only make them go up to where the cat is (the fastest enemy will stop the cat first and the slower ones will be less moved) with some stuns of course

but faster enemies will be harder to keep away

while slower enemies can be pushed farther and farther

although that is the only con of making multiple enemies u-turn with Tragodia

Nymph is still a better option if you want to permastall 1 enemy

[glass monolith]

Unless enemy is slow ass

[jovial nest]

yeah if enemy is slow as molasses

just go Tragodia

Nymph is built for faster enemy

[undone sundial]

isn't she not that good

[wicked minnow]

that's why he said blaze because talent

[jovial nest]

it's up to you

I like to use Blazer in a Yu-S3-centric team

i have considered other candidates but they just do less than what Blazer's talent and S3 (increased dmg to enemies that burn procced)

[elder flume]

its really just preference

[jovial nest]

a consideration is to add Ceobe if you want to include a DEF-monster killer alongside it

[elder flume]

if Blazer works then slay

[jovial nest]

but i have a different team if i really wanted to go serious

[scarlet mortar]

i mean ceobe's doing most of the heavy lifting there

if you're adding her to punch through def monsters, yu's kinda just spectating

[jovial nest]

can't say no to burn proc adding RES shred

[void terrace]

Oh theres a really good one

[elder flume]

Blaze S1 fixed
Blaze S3 fixed

[faint loom]

https://discordapp.com/channels/586503387072167937/586588958885150721/1395740648858189977
perhaps folks in here can help me?

[elder flume]

11-6 is the usual showcase

Yu S3 not fixed

[faint loom]

thank you so much
that's what I've been looking for

[stone dawn]

Need Help for babel BB-7

[glass monolith]

Uh... Just kill them... Also why you in Babel don't we get rerun of it in 2-3 months

[maiden hound]

use frd to spam chains on the fat fucks
kroos2 stun drops the flyers up top
use dps hold bottom lane, 1 bait for the guitarist

[scarlet mortar]

notably the fat fucks don't have any def, so kroos2 is a pretty valid dps option

they just have a ton of hp

just keep dropping FRDs to run chains over them and knock them down

[sterile wagon]

can i check your unit?

[rocky anvil]

Can I place an operator on those sticks? I don't quite remember.

[sterile wagon]

no

[maiden hound]

only if stick is kil iirc

[narrow pendant]

Cant

[stone dawn]

Here are my unit

[scarlet mortar]

looks shrimple

[sterile wagon]

unit you own (your roster)

[scarlet mortar]

vulpis, exu, jess, mountain, then red bombs the amiyas while kal + mon3tr holds the line

[sterile wagon]

pick as high rarity as possible squad :v

[elder flume]

Mayer bug fixed

[umbral escarp]

Is there an Anni3 rundown anywhere

[void terrace]

Hmmm

Honestly blaze alter isnt so bad on her own

Like yes it defeats the point of using her

But even without yu's burn she has a really fast cycle time and high area burst

[pure orchid]

yato alt can trigger yu s3 burn

gotta be one of the more interesting yet borderline useless tidbits of information i discovered

[round pike]

What program can visualize like this?

[scarlet mortar]

map.ark, it's in the pins

[stone dawn]

How did you manage to make this map

[scarlet mortar]

map.ark, it's in the pins

[pure orchid]

[maiden hound]

arts damage dealer
trigger yu s3
:noway:

[pure orchid]

arts dmg is such a minor part of her kit that most people would forget abt it

for most intents and purposes, she is by far a physical dmg dealer

[void terrace]

Holy shit blazemage goes insanely hard against H13-4

Her skill lasts forever sinsve she triggers so many burn inflicts

She basically one cycled the sanguinarch once he got hit with the bomb

[elder flume]

people dont use Yato to do arts?

[umbral escarp]

hello can i get help for anni3, i am bad at the game and dont know how to survive the last few enemies

[umbral dagger]

Who is in your squad and what are they dying to? The hammer dudes, the drones?

[umbral escarp]

Both, I will send roster shortly

[maiden hound]

exu before degen lapp2 🥀

[torpid socket]

Is there any trick to the coin tossers/Wealths in OR-8? They're one-shotting everyone, and the chopsticks summon enough Vapidity that they always have ammo.

[umbral escarp]

exu was my very first e2

i only got lapp2 recently

[umbral dagger]

Sub Click for Lapp2, imo - Lapp2 S2 will hit the things that sit still.

Saria S3 slow + SA S3 should help clean up the very end

[maiden hound]

deployment order/placement into tank bait works fine for me
also get someone who can shoot fast like kroos alter to speedrun converting chopsticks

[sick flare]

They’re pretty annoying so I had my fast redeploys take the coin attacks as much as possible

[umbral escarp]

Where do I position things

[maiden hound]

mountain s2 hold top
mudrock & saria/lapp middle
degen bottom
exu silence topside
gnosis/lapp2 + another healer bottom side

[umbral escarp]

i will try that thanks

where sash?

[umbral dagger]

Middle-ish to maximize S3, imo

Something like this. (No access to the tool atm, so jank screenshot instead)

Dark blue = defender
Light blue = guard
Yellow = ranged damage dealer
Orange = medic

[umbral escarp]

I set it up like this

[umbral escarp]

oh

maybe i am putting too much faith in mountain and mudrock

[umbral dagger]

A bit too far forward. Moving them back lets DPS hit things more before the enemy reaches them

I'd charge DP to maybe 200 or so during the early waves then retreat Myrtle and have Gnosis help cover the top with what you deployed

[umbral escarp]

okok

degen position ok?

[umbral dagger]

It's fine, yeah - similar to Mudrock/Mountain, you could move her left one tile to reduce the damage she takes from enemies, but that's not a huge deal for that lane

[umbral escarp]

my main concern is lapp2 not hitting her block

[umbral dagger]

I would face your DPS down there to the right, rather than up

[pure orchid]

well i dont, its just 20% atk after all

there is also texas and bajillion caster

[elder flume]

Not an S2 user smh

[umbral dagger]

Also, I got the Lapp2 skill wrong: her S1 lets you toggle between normal damage and attacking stationary targets.

Given how long some waves sit still, that could help clear things out vefore they reach you

[umbral escarp]

yeah bottom drone just pass through for free...

[torpid socket]

I'll play around with my deployments some more. Might need to put the tanks further forward so that deployment order makes them be properly targeted. Thanks for the tips or ideas.

[elder flume]

Zuo mod y fixed

[glass monolith]

Who starts new conversation like this It was broken?

[elder flume]

Mod y was infinite revive every time S2 was used

Think everything is fixed apart from Yu S3 counting ToW towers as enemies

Shame

[umbral escarp]

yeah everyone just dies

like the last waves just kills every lane

350-400

[umbral dagger]

Without any upgrades to your Ops, it'll come down to timing skills properly and deploying Ops effectively, I think. Lapp2 S3 would deal with a lot of that, as would Degen S3.

Gnosis I don't really know that well (don't have him), but I want to say his S3 is his best skill?

As for deploying, SA is sort of dead weight when not using S3, so Lappland can be used until you know you need the crowd control.

[surreal star]

i would probably set up something like this with lapp s1

e2 degen or lapp would be able to carry pretty hard if you have the resources available

especially lapp

[umbral escarp]

i can try getting e2 lapp it's just i didnt expect anni3 to be hard

so i wanted to focus on event

[elder flume]

Anni3 is harder than most dw

[surreal star]

yeah i feel like anni3 is a pretty major early game hurdle

[umbral dagger]

It definitely took me a while for the final wave when I was first starting.

For weekly orundum and to maximize event efficiency, I think it's fine to just do Anni2 and focus the event to get upgrade materials, etc., then circle back.

After this event we have an IS event (no sanity stages) and a CC event (also no sanity stages) so you'll have a lot of spare time then to work through Anni3 without losing out on event farming

[umbral escarp]

I just dont wanna miss out on the weekly orundum limit

[umbral escarp]

CC

[elder flume]

Paddy 67 is easier and better rewards

[umbral escarp]

(the reason I quit every time)

[surreal star]

another option is to do it with a borrow for cap and farm anni2

just bring wisadel logos ela etc to carry either top or bottom

[umbral dagger]

Ahhh, I had forgotten about that. I think Weeboo's setup above will help. Also, can you borrow for the stage? Of only a single clear is what you need atm, borrowing an E2 DPS could clear it

[umbral escarp]

Surely CC isnt too much orundum and I can skip...

[surreal star]

cc doesn’t have orundum but the re

rewards are pretty decent

[umbral escarp]

cc ends up with me having to play 4-5 hours every day just to try and clear just replicating kyos clears

for weeks

[umbral dagger]

Don't do what isn't fun

[surreal star]

on my cn account i just skip all the non sanity events and it’s honestly fine

[elder flume]

Can prob just borrow Gladiia S1M3 mody for CCB3 620

[umbral dagger]

Most of the stuff rewarded you can get from other sources

[umbral escarp]

this game just takes so much time in general tbh

it's fun but I burn out in a week

[umbral dagger]

Ehhhh, while you are reaching the plateau, sure.

[surreal star]

in endgame it’s mostly just checking every once and a while for base and sanity but that’s about it

[umbral dagger]

Once you get a built roster and clear story/side story, daily interaction is pretty quick

[umbral escarp]

it's just so far

when i struggle with every story stage it's just so much time to catch up while doing CC, events, anni and more temporary stuff

[umbral dagger]

I would say pace yourself better. There're no signs the game is going anywhere anytime soon. So just play as much as you feel is fun, and when you stop having fun or want to do something else, stop for the day

It's okay to just let event shops go uncleared of it means you have more fun in the long run.

There will be more events.

[grizzled pier]

I know global warming (Yu S3+Lappland Alter S3) is really strong, but if you really want to obliterate everything on the map, add in Skadi Alter and Gladiia. Gladiia is mainly there to boost Skalters buff but her skill 3 adds a little bit of grouping to further amplify lapplands damage due to the aoe aspect of her skill 3

[glass monolith]

Assuming enemies are that nice to be in same place, be pullsable, and not having lancer speed

[void terrace]

Skadi is mostly enough

If you want a bit more atk for your casters just sit eyja in your squad

Instant +22% atk buff at mod 3

[grizzled pier]

Oh thats a great idea too, I don't have eyja lol, Skadi is also really useful for Yus skill 3 since the burn damage scales off his attack

[fringe tangle]

hello #strategy

explain to me what prevents Fia S3 from interacting with Yu S3

uhhh

please

[still vessel]

no idea about fia specifically but in order for yu s3 to work you need to deal source dmg.

best example is thorns alt

his damage comes from his units and not himself

so he can not apply yu s3 burn

also recquires the dmg to be arts dmg and nothing else

[umbral dagger]

Fiametta? She does physical damage, not arts

[glass monolith]

I love how all that text and only then "Btw need to do arts damage"

[fringe tangle]

holy fuck i use so few snipers that i didnt even realize yu's skill is limited to arts damage

[still vessel]

idk i thought people would read his skill then look over at fia and shes a phys dps. 🥀

[fringe tangle]

retreating myself

[umbral dagger]

Happens to the best of us - I had to go double check before answering because I was like "I'm prreeetty sure S3 doesn't swap to arts?"

[still vessel]

I couldnt even use snipers if i wanted to. my best ones are krooster and naran i got from this banner.

[glass monolith]

One day i will build blue poison

[void terrace]

For vanguards suzumom works with the firewall

Also muelsyse arts clones

[distant bough]

Is h14-4 patriot stronger than h7-4 one ?

[glass monolith]

Maaaybe. Back in chapter 7 CM mode used to be +10% on average, it is for quite a while +20% on average. But he has one funny "nerf" to his phase 2

[distant bough]

What is it lmao ?

[glass monolith]

He can't do spear throw

[distant bough]

Oh ok

[glass monolith]

there are no ranged tiles

[distant bough]

Been trying funny Blaze Alter kill

[glass monolith]

Funny is phantom alter solo of that stage

[distant bough]

But idk if it's because I'm missing masteries, or if she's just that bad, but I can't even get 50% with one skill

[glass monolith]

Here "Why it has RES" resolver kit:

[distant bough]

Yeah ig, I'll wait for masteries to try that stage again (since I kinda wanna do it with my own strats)

And blaze kill sounds goofy

[void terrace]

Hes a lot easier to deal with i thought his stats were gimped

Or maybe he just walked into logos wis crossfire

Lemme check

[distant bough]

I mean ngl, patriot isn't that hard anymore, but I just have too much copium thinking Blaze can one cycle him on sl7 😭

[void terrace]

Blaze alter/

With yu?

[distant bough]

Yeah

[scarlet fulcrum]

Auto skill only but it still took forever even after adding more ops 💤

[void terrace]

Whats the rest of your squad if you dont mind me asking

[distant bough]

I honestly have no idea what I'm doing, just having fun rn ig 😭

[void terrace]

Lol thats more than enuf

Phantom with is module jumpscare much

[distant bough]

The squad makes little sense but it kinda works ? I just need to move patriot with roadblocks so I can 2-cycle with blaze

[distant bough]

Yeah because if I don't set IS mod I know I'll forget to change it in IS 😭

[void terrace]

You cleared it already?

[distant bough]

Uuuuh no

First time trying

[void terrace]

Maybe remove phantom for a healer

[distant bough]

I kinda never bothered with it because I hated the fight in general

[distant bough]

Ngl doesn't feel necessary ?

[void terrace]

He dosent add much value your front line is a little sparse

[distant bough]

Gladiia Ulpi solos bottom left, and I have eyja for Yu

Wis can't really be damaged, so not really an issue rn

[void terrace]

Fair

[distant bough]

Phantom + Clone helps to pick off random shit and absorb theresa shields

Since it took me like 3 tries to understand it gave her insane DR

I think, maybe I'm stupid

[void terrace]

The stage is cancer for so manh reaons

Actuallt

Does it reduce elementsl damage

Maybe point yu and blaze

At theresa directly

[wicked minnow]

believe it does

[distant bough]

With my setup Wis does get the burn

But idk why it just doesn't proc

(Probably because her hit count is so low)

[void terrace]

It only affects arts

Attacks

[wicked minnow]

AK wiki says it just reduces the damage she recieves by 90%

[void terrace]

So her revernants get it

[wicked minnow]

so it affects elemental as well

[void terrace]

Rip

Hmm once you remove her shields it may be more worth it to just have blaze nuke her from a distsnce

[distant bough]

If it's bad wording for 90% DR, doesn't burn ignore DR ?

[wicked minnow]

burn doesnt ignore DR

nothing really ignores DR

it's just that certain types of DR exist

[distant bough]

I would have to change my setup ig, rn blaze only purpose is patriot burst and killing random shit

[void terrace]

I mean if wis isnt hitting theresa

[wicked minnow]

like people say these dudes have DR but as we know elemntal damage works against them (description specifies physical and arts DR)

[distant bough]

The only reason I'm even going for it is because I got told you can kinda ignore the stun mechanic with pozy typewriter

And this made me enjoy the fight so much more

Like wow, my units can do shit now

[void terrace]

LOOOOOOL

I cheesed the whole of phase 1

Without a single cocoon

Global warming gang is insane

They just chipped her down and the moment she went to phase 2 i just deployed nian next to her to soak the bubbles and nuked her

Easiest clear of my life with this squad

[haughty flower]

What's vivi even doing.

[spark sinew]

shrimply wait for tragodia!

[void terrace]

Lol soloing right side 🫠

[haughty flower]

I just had nearl and some dinky healer on her for right.

[void terrace]

Lol

Not having to deal with cocoons the whole stage is so funny tho

[crystal meteor]

Yu laneholds everything at or-9

[haughty flower]

Twinkops

[celest bluff]

Yeah that think I need to pull Yu now

[wicked minnow]

what's this

is that one of the boss's mechanics?

[full terrace]

Some teleporters

It teleports the chopsticks

[wicked minnow]

i dont see it doing anything

[full terrace]

Yeh it does nothing

[scarlet fulcrum]

They want hasten glutton form dragon release like ability probably, but yeah barely change anything

[grim elk]

Theoretically, from their placement and descriptions, they would put the chopsticks on an infinitely looping path, never to reach the stove

[elder flume]

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No more borrow Mud

[remote perch]

who even still use mud lol

thats like stone age shit

[rapid junco]

Wtf, kitasan enjoyer

[elder flume]

They cant cope Logos or Wis borrow so Mud is borrowed more for cannon targeting

Or atleast that is how it should when they dont know how to space ops

[rapid junco]

@scarlet fulcrum
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=01L4CFQdrWA&si=dPDGovX6vVC8WNnr

If you know you know

[full terrace]

Yo

I was agreeing with you until now

Now I see what they do

Definitely not "doing nothing"

[vocal leaf]

I guess you were not here when ulpi gladiia happened, well they’re still the moment

[vocal leaf]

penance could do it, but we move on from her way too soon 🥹

[noble pewter]

Framework of end is it needed to go to alt ending or I can trade it off in the lost n found node?

[limpid ore]

storyteller relic cant be traded

it wont show up in lost n found

[elder flume]

Penance

[wispy condor]

tequilas reflect dmg kills the mosquitoes immediately so he should be able to bait all of them and self sustain with water. dont let slumbering sui pollute into the 2nd field so you can use it to clean the one where your blue box defenses are

krooster should be very safely removable, in other words
wondering if it might be easier to deal with the mobs/sui 2nd phase if you use enforcer instead of lessing

[scarlet mortar]

i have a 3step that's just highmore minimalist mud

you could practically replace mud with senshi if instead you bring someone better to handle the bottom left

[maiden hound]

vid is fixed

[crystal meteor]

just use ulpi gladiaa

[crystal meteor]

ling and wisadel has 1 op clear for hs 9 too if youre gonna allow non welfares at this point

[maiden hound]

thanks mate I can use arkrec just fine

[maiden hound]

my enforcer is unraised (not e2) and i'm afraid he's gonna die

[elder flume]

i can lend E2 1 M6 Enforcer if you wana try

[maiden hound]

hmm maybe later

[void terrace]

Is dusk IS module good?

The biggest flaw is unlike rosmontis module her summons dont last forever

[elder flume]

No

[dapper hedge]

Its trash

Literally took out what made y good for worst effect

[void terrace]

Rest in peices

[wicked minnow]

what is senshi even doing here

[remote perch]

Is it
I don't really think it will do much even if its perma since its just not tanky enough unlike Ros's

and you have issue of drafting Dusk in the first place

[maiden hound]

somehow my fuckers die if nobody's there

it's probably the shooter coming out at phase 2

[scarlet mortar]

yh tachanka's not good for tanking there

the spitters add enough damage to kill him

[maiden hound]

should I just put senshi in the front w/ teq and have em stall

[scarlet mortar]

you can move teq two tiles up facing down if you really needed the extra blight control

or put tachanka in that same spot ig

[wicked minnow]

4* only clear is cuora + deepcolor

[maiden hound]

ok I'll just stall better

[scarlet mortar]

is that kroos M3 btw, she's proccing oddly late

[full terrace]

2400 freakin damage, this is not even EX or S stages

[wicked minnow]

just replace cuora with bison or senshi and deepcolor with scene

[scarlet mortar]

i didn't want to bring up scene bc that's the easy way out

[wicked minnow]

yeah if a welfare only strat doesnt have scene then it probably wasnt optimized

[void terrace]

True

Hmmm

[wicked minnow]

Raidian already surpassed the amount of records sankta miksaparto has 🥹

[dapper hedge]

General mod for her when

[full terrace]

Does Radian have any skill that allows her sunmon to hit air while being a ground unit?

I didnt read her kit

@wicked minnow

[dapper hedge]

Pretty sure s3 hits air

[wicked minnow]

No she doesnt sadly. S2 doesnt hit air and s3 isnt ground

that means there's atleast 1 stage that fuze can solo but scene and raidian cant lol

[full terrace]

Aw

I thought there will be a gamechanger summoner 😂

[wicked minnow]

i really thought there was a chance for it as well so that disappointed me a little. Atleast raidian's overall performance is quite respectable

[full terrace]

I need to see if her S3 hits hard enough for the summons to lanehold

If they can, then at least thats better than Ling S2

[wicked minnow]

They only hit hard on skill

Thats their issue

Is that their skill is broken as balls

[full terrace]

Thats fine

Ling S2 sucks balls

[wicked minnow]

Ok then yeah they can hold a bit

[full terrace]

If the summons are low on HP they kill themselves on skill

😒

At least there is a thing she can do which Ling S2 cant

[wicked minnow]

Each single drone can perma slow, link range, and do like 2k arts damage on hit

Also raidian herself permaslows during skill

[full terrace]

Oh that sounds nice

Slow is always a +

Reason why Wis is so broken is because her Rev Shadows slow stuff so even her interval is slow, that slow buys her enough time to demolish everything

I always value cc

[narrow pendant]

I mean, thats good
She'd run out of them otherwise

flashbacks ti ling borrows in is

[dapper hedge]

Id prefer adding summon stock on skills than recycling tbh

[wicked minnow]

outside IS6 raidian has a little problem with running out of summons. shouldnt be a major issue tho if you play well

[dark mantle]

typically you don't use raidian s3
you use s2

[full terrace]

I mean, when I play Summoner thats for low ops 😂

[dark mantle]

cheap blockers are good

[wicked minnow]

ye s3 is jank as balls in is6

[full terrace]

I dont mind the deploy limit

[scarlet mortar]

raidian S3 is the first to solo 7-18 mineless

that should say sth

[wicked minnow]

sheeesh

[scarlet mortar]

CM is free ofc

[full terrace]

Okay that sounds really good

[dark mantle]

yeah she can, it's pretty funny

[scarlet mortar]

it's the combo of the skill having a fat burst and the planes being able to borrow each other's ranges

[full terrace]

Tbh when making guides, I have a lot of issues with hitting air while using Ling borrow

Coz her S2 sucks balls

Raidian sounds really good there

[maiden hound]

use the other 6* summoner who can hit air

[full terrace]

Here is your favorite #off-topic message @next wigeon

[next wigeon]

Where tf are you getting these

[full terrace]

They come to me

[next wigeon]

Anyways thanks, I'll terrorize my friends with it again

[pure orchid]

so leizi is thunderbringer, while greyy is lightningbringer
can we have rainbringer so we can have thunderstorm 🔥⛈️

[lofty sundial]

we already have heavy rain

[narrow pendant]

Wheres light rain? Or a storm

[pure orchid]

Heavyrain huh…

Good enough i guess

[void terrace]

Storm eye is still in npc jail

[prisma elk]

Am I cooking something or is Yu s2 x Lee s3 just not it lmao, like Lee pushes out the light weight enemies while Yu cooks up the heavy ones, but idk if that's how it works

[void terrace]

Errr whats the concept

Yu wants to be blocking as many enemies as possible

To burn them all

[prisma elk]

Some kind of fever dream I had

[void terrace]

So lee s3 is the last thing he needs

Maybe lee s2 caus yu s2 can splitbox enemies onto his own tile, meaning lee can hide behind him and spam s2 against a big threatening target without worry

[prisma elk]

Hmm... Would Lee s3 compliment Yu s2 if hes like 1 tile behind him? So he really does push away most enemies into Yu after he killed the ones he's blocking?

[prisma elk]

Hm, man my brain is weird I just remembered Lee s2 would work better probably

[remote perch]

Lee's push force is so low that the only thing you will realistically push are fodders, and why would Yu care if he's blocking Fodders

[prisma elk]

Hm... Man I'm really coping to make Lee work w anyone lmao

[remote perch]

i can tell

[glass monolith]

I knew boss of this event is clown, but man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDOdsw9O_fc

[prisma elk]

Just curious, has anyone tested Yato s3 with Yu s3?

[void terrace]

It works

[void terrace]

I mean lee and lings dragons work due to the overlapping DoT of the dragons

If you really want to go that far

He also works with any fast attacking multi hit operator like chongyue, exu, archetto

[umbral escarp]

so what do you do for 7-18

[full terrace]

Borrow

Wisadel and shoot Patriot

[umbral escarp]

fun

[scarlet mortar]

the "intended way" from days of yore is to plan the mines so phase 1 pat walks over them and dies of cringe

then you sacrifice a ranged op for phase 2's first spear throw and burst him down

[glass monolith]

Nah i'd dodge - F32 or whatever his name was

[scarlet mortar]

nowadays though we have wis who doesn't bother with trivialities like "high defense" and "spear targeting"

[scarlet mortar]

12f

[glass monolith]

look him kil Wisadel to mortals

[scarlet mortar]

if you want a masterclass on beating his ass without rarity abuse, there's this
https://youtu.be/7YYIUUJwk2g

but yh

back then it's not like we didn't rarity abuse anw

schwarz go

[umbral escarp]

i just dont get what im supposed to do in 2nd phase where he just oneshots everything

since u need all ur brust for phase 1

[elder flume]

its more like he oneshots when in phase 1

phase 2 lowers his damage significantly

he gets access to spear throw which targets farthest away ranged op so theres that

[scarlet mortar]

tldr you outrange him and dps him faster

[umbral escarp]

he still oneshots my defenders or ranged

[scarlet mortar]

without rarity abuse his p2 is actually a decent ball of stats, even if it isn't in the realm of p1

[scarlet mortar]

^ like yh he is mowing through everyone

[elder flume]

use S1

[scarlet mortar]

you just need to pummel him

ew saria

[umbral escarp]

already using s1

i just dont have damage outside of lapp2 s3

so 2nd phase he just kills everything

[scarlet mortar]

er

lapp2 S3 is a lot of damage actually

[umbral escarp]

yes

but once

the boss has 2 phaes

[scarlet mortar]

probs let him walk too close

[umbral escarp]

i cant burst earlier though

[scarlet mortar]

you definitely can

pat takes forever

[umbral escarp]

this is like the most dmg I can deal with one mine+gnosis s3

[scarlet mortar]

yh that's early ah hell

[umbral dagger]

Placing more mines? You have 14 of them

[umbral escarp]

you said early

[scarlet mortar]

just make him walk over the rest of the mines

yh that's not late enough to be causing problems

lapp should be ready again easy

[umbral dagger]

Also, you could use Silverash there as a helidrop nuker.

Gnosis + Sash + Mines P1, then Lapp2 S3 phase 2

[scarlet mortar]

a maxed mud S2 does solo this stage but anw

[umbral dagger]

Put Mountain where Myrtle is, and you can not deploy Degen

[scarlet mortar]

should've let him walk further tbh

[umbral escarp]

rly?

[scarlet mortar]

anw DB and lapp2 mogs p2

[scarlet mortar]

well yh he can swat lapp

[umbral escarp]

how do i block boss tho

[scarlet mortar]

why bother

just nuke him

modded mud S2 can block him for a while but you don't need to if you press all your red buttons

[full terrace]

You have Degen, Gnosis, Lappcaster

[umbral dagger]

If you really wanted to block him, you'd want a higher DEF Defender like Hoshiguma or Bison (free) backed up by one or more healers. Hoshiguma is the obvious candidate, but Bison (welfare from Code of Brawl) could use his skill to tank the boss while backed up by medics

[scarlet mortar]

eh a modded mud solos

[umbral dagger]

Mudrock requires a Ch9 stage for her mod

[scarlet mortar]

sarkaz talent ftw

[umbral dagger]

(Or something in Shadow of a Dying Sun)

[scarlet mortar]

you can access ch9 after ch3

[umbral dagger]

Sure, but I'm not sure they're looking to make a beeline down a different story arc just to get a mod

[scarlet mortar]

i mean yh, just challenging your mention of a higher def defender

pat still hits hard enough to require a pretty levelled defender

[umbral dagger]

I agree that with their setup, it's best to just nuke the boss with damage skills rather than block. I was just answering how you might do it as an early player/without access to later stuff. Probably should have mentioned Cuora instead of Bison, though.

[umbral escarp]

how do i setup the nuke tho

like in any case the units have to be redeployed right

[umbral dagger]

Not necessarily. You had 91 DP and most of your ops undeployed there - deploy your medic to heal Lapp Alter and you're fine

[full terrace]

Plenty of time to redeploy them

[glass monolith]

Aim in general direction of boss

[full terrace]

You can even abuse the killgate

[umbral dagger]

Is your Degen E2 yet? Or still E1?

[umbral escarp]

degen e2

[umbral escarp]

i have you blocked for some reason and it seems it's valuable to keep you blocked

[umbral dagger]

Gnosis + SA + Mines P1, retreat SA once his skill is done; deploy Lapp2 and Degen and mines further up the path while he's keeled over and then once he hits a mine, activate both skills.

[elder flume]

E2 60 no mod Saria does tank Pat P2

no need to kill at my place but just a concept

[umbral dagger]

As for his spear...you could use Exu to try to bait that. Not sure on positions, depends on where you're killing him

[glass monolith]

Incoming he blocks phase 1 because nobody elaborated enough for him

[umbral dagger]

If you really wanted to block Phase 2 and are having trouble healing it, you could wait until he's farther up the path and block with Saria and then deploy Degenbrecher to the side of the boss - that will let her Frighten debuff prevent Patriot's attack every so often

[vital arrow]

Do we even know who else they have

[elder flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669489344658014208/1395790648317050962/Screenshot_20250718_185724_Arknights.jpg?ex=687c6397&is=687b1217&hm=6117d4f68427774c2e17a83275a9957ac1839d839e10bbb5f41666af56a44eba&

[vital arrow]

Ig theyre just having trouble vs pat

[umbral dagger]

#strategy message

[vital arrow]

Degen an lapp are E2 I assume

[umbral dagger]

They are now, yes

[vital arrow]

Not s3m3 yeah?

[umbral escarp]

all m0

yeah the boss just decides he hates gnosis and kills him

even with a ranged bait

[glass monolith]

Nobody told him phase 2 has ranged attack to be racist to ranged ops...

[vital arrow]

Spear or normal attack

[umbral escarp]

i think it's normal attack but it didnt even do spear

[vital arrow]

Also tile planning is important if youre not cheesing him

Are you doing the stall strat

[umbral escarp]

not that I'm aware of

[vital arrow]

Then again, you need to kill phase 1 fast for the stall strat

You dont have E2 amiya yeah?

[umbral escarp]

not yet

[vital arrow]

Well I'm gonna fiddle with gnosid and degen first, since those two are the realistic dps for p1

[full terrace]

Honestly, just stack the dps on him. That Lappcaster, Degen, and Gnosis are plenty

And if you are still having trouble, borrow Wis and shoot, thats the surest and easiest way

[elder flume]

i cant simulate due to no degen and Lapp2

my kill up there was Exu Gnosis Lapp
only Exu M3 but no mod

if i used SA hes max n M3
Saria is S3M3 so too much debuff

[vital arrow]

I could simulate but both are m3 so its probably a bit inaccurate

[full terrace]

I have both but I dont have time on my hand atm

[umbral escarp]

ok so lappcaster degen and gnosis only hit for a third of p2

[elder flume]

with mines?

[umbral escarp]

so idk why it's that way

yea

[full terrace]

Do they have masteries there

[elder flume]

SL7

[full terrace]

Yah I cant simulate then

[umbral escarp]

n

[full terrace]

Mine are M3-ed

It will not be accurate

The etc waves are not an issue to you right? Only Patriot

[umbral escarp]

mudrock solos waves

[full terrace]

When Patriot steps on the mines, there is a Fragile effect on him

[umbral escarp]

just the waves are annoying because it ruins mines

[full terrace]

If you time it, your Lappcaster+Degen will have a boosted damage

[umbral escarp]

i am aware

[full terrace]

Then abuse the killgate

There is a killgate you can abuse

[umbral escarp]

that implies I can block the boss

or make him stand still

which I can for like, 4 seconds

[umbral dagger]

Put another medic on Saria

[umbral dagger]

This vid has Saria tanking P2 around your level with Silence and Hibiscus: #strategy message

[full terrace]

No, you block the last or last 2 etc enemies from the early waves and stall them, dont kill them

At around 17/45

[umbral escarp]

P1 is ok

[full terrace]

That way the final waves will not come and the entire stage is empty

You can then focus on Patriot entirely

And mines will not be interrupted

[umbral escarp]

ok ty

cleared

the main issue was just patriot aoe killing degen

[full terrace]

Nice, congrats

[void terrace]

Damn honestly global warming squad is totally busted

I think its given me some of the fastest clear times

For boss stages

Even wis usually needs a few cycles for tankier bosses like the sanguinarch

Lappalter and goldenglow just lazer down everything on the field

[surreal star]

i've been having a lot of fun with the mech casters + yu

[pure orchid]

cant wait to try it

i didnt prefarm yu chips cus i didnt actually expect to get him

stuck in e1 jail

[vocal leaf]

do you have the 5 star ticket with warfarin? she and degen were able to kill patriot in one skill activation, one of best buffers you could get for degen, later on you will get free heidi/theresa too

[umbral escarp]

No

[vocal leaf]

well next year then, if you don’t get her from senior op tag

[umbral escarp]

sadge

[elder flume]

Event is weird

Teleporters are perma bind

Cant manipulate them but you can manipulate those puller enemies to bring chopsticks

[wicked minnow]

what do the teleporter guys do exactly?

[elder flume]

Kina like hiring a fast puller

Isnt it just teleport blacksticks to blackshrine

Faster

[full terrace]

They do 2 things

[elder flume]

Havent checked many event strats
They all seem to be bruteforce squads

[pure orchid]

i saw a yu + lumen duo floating around

didnt watch the vid tho

[vocal leaf]

yu is bruteforce

[full terrace]

First is that, they prevent the red chopsticks from reaching your stove. No chopsticks on stove = you cant summon red dragon to clear out waves and remove the boss's DR. Second is that, they loop all chopsticks until the boss activates its skill and pull them all to itself, instantly activating the black dragon, this is what I meant to told you earlier #strategy message

It's easier if you see my Low-End OR-9 clear

I'll upload it tomorrow

[wicked minnow]

oh aight

i saw your earlier clear and was staring at it waiting for it to do something

[full terrace]

If you run broken squad they do almost nothing tho

[wicked minnow]

didnt even realize it existed when i did the stage myself

[full terrace]

It's only really noticeable on Low-End

[wicked minnow]

yeah lmao

[elder flume]

I had planned to shift the porters to certain spots

Only to find out they dont move

[vocal leaf]

you can still pull the chopsticks

[elder flume]

Ye theyre decent

[pure orchid]

will u be keeping degen at e2 1 m0

[elder flume]

E2 1 SL1

[pure orchid]

diabolical but understandable

[elder flume]

SL1 to SL7 does practically nothing

Barely any sp change

[vocal leaf]

there’s no teleports if you kill boss too soon?

[wintry gulch]

psychopath behavior

[sick flare]

I killed that boss quickly enough with elemental damage that I never even noticed what those guys did

[void terrace]

Hos bad is the wellfare this time

Her kit looks

Horrendous

[narrow pendant]

Very

Like, stay miles away

[scarlet fulcrum]

they are famous so yea ig, but quite different vibe this time. Sadge song

[glass monolith]

[elder flume]

fuck i forgot to test perma Yu S3

all fixed

[void terrace]

Perma yu s3?

[elder flume]

including every new op bugs ye

[minor lion]

what do I do about these guys

[vocal leaf]

kill them

[next wigeon]

Murder them

I just used Exalt on them

[vocal leaf]

hmm i don’t get it, why mostima? shouldn’t be better a flinger or asca/ethan

[minor lion]

who

[next wigeon]

La Pluma S2 would work in all honesty

[next wigeon]

Use Krooster to kill em

E1 Lappy btw

[vocal leaf]

you don’t want to farm the stage? i doubt you need wis here, the stage is about crowd control not damage

[minor lion]

im trying to first clear the stage

[next wigeon]

Just use Kal'sit against boss

[glass monolith]

Can't wait to stall boss with something stupid on EX/S

[void terrace]

Im gonna pennance the boss

Just you wait

Its pennance dream team time

Pennance aak nian gang and more

[elder flume]

slowing down dragon ult

[steel prairie]

I accidently got Logos when using the free pulls on Yu banner... I heard he is cracked he is a must build right ???

[minor lion]

wtf do I do here

[wicked minnow]

dont let your ops get nuked

[minor lion]

gg

[glass monolith]

Embrace being beamed into face. Operators behind front most take half damage from it. If nobody blocks then tiles banned. Pretty sure damage of beam is 50% arts 50% physical or something

[wicked minnow]

he only seals the tiles where no ops are on so yeah

[minor lion]

all my ops got one shot

[vocal leaf]

oh but what does it change, does it make less damage?

[glass monolith]

Do uno reverse and oneshot him faster

[wicked minnow]

i did this stage relatively recently

uhhh

if you happen to have raidian and exualt

yeah just oneshot the boss if you can

what does your squad look like?

[vocal leaf]

check above, seems only amiya e2

[wicked minnow]

oh

[elder flume]

nothing
you just slow it down
not a projectile so Logos cant exodia
will be cooking something with Yu soon tho

why do IW btw

[wicked minnow]

why is there a wisadel solo of iw-9

[dark mantle]

Why wouldnt there be a wisadel solo of iw-9

[elder flume]

tfw i have the Wis link reay

[wicked minnow]

idk ling doesnt solo. i dont see why wisadel would

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11Zh8eeEqR/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[dark mantle]

ling known slop

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ad4y1h7ZY/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[vocal leaf]

what a fraud is ling, can’t solo her event boss, she should learn from his younger brother

[elder flume]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DS4y1y7gK/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

3 vids should be enough

[wicked minnow]

ok just saw the solo. it was quite close and you need to reposition her

[elder flume]

Contrail ignores beam and stops tile ban iirc

[void terrace]

Damn yu really works well with vivi

Either his s2 can drag enemies onto his tile so vivi can poke them continuously off skill

Or his s3 just procs burn super fast

[ocean wasp]

What's the intended way to kill Song of the Pack? It took forever to kill it and the gramophone box didn't really do much damage either.

[wicked minnow]

you use the equipment that buffs sniper thing beyond belief and stack 50 morbillion snipers and sniper all over

the tower equipment is beyond broken

then you just used a high dps sniper. dph basically does not matter atp so wisadel works so does exu krooster and the likes

[ocean wasp]

I did pick those ones but I never saw it show up in the description of the sniper buffs

[wicked minnow]

and then you pick A. Quick Charge Component

your snipers will always have their skills ready

[ocean wasp]

That definitely would have made a big difference, thanks

[wicked minnow]

it doesnt show up in the description. however it's a giga buff to your snipers. just stack 5 snipers on wisadel with her s2 and it's giga free

[full terrace]

You stall the boss to buy time, and then you stack Snipers equipment on your dps unit and have this unit focus on hitting the Gramaphone.

[wicked minnow]

oh yeah that too you should be attacking the gramophone not the boss

just focus it and ignore the boss itself

he should die before he gets a couple steps in

[ocean wasp]

Jeez okay, definitely felt like 5+ minutes of fighting only him so the gramophone is probably the way to go

[full terrace]

Build your team properly. What I usually do is to draft 12 Tactical Equipment units and 8 carry units. The Tactical Equipment units are usually 6 Snipers 6 Casters for me, but for this tower specifically it's better to go all 12 Snipers. Dont forget to sort them out by "Deployment Cost", ascending before drafting, that way you only draft the cheapest cost units and you can stack their equipment really really fast.

Another thing worth noting is that you try not to draft new units on the way, because they dilute your pool.

[glass monolith]

#strategy message KO-KO-DA-YOooooooo

[kindred stirrup]

Someone save me please 😭

My tank keeps dying too fast umm

[patent prairie]

Use a medic defender

[vocal leaf]

who is your tank? saria/jessi are not really tanks like cuora, also why is silence not facing right to heal the defenders

[somber falcon]

Don't burden saria with healing exu and pull her back a few tiles

[kindred stirrup]

Saria was placed at the top

Near the entrance

To agro those shooters

[patent prairie]

Also these guys die on their own, so you just need two defenders under two medics to draw fire and endure imho

[full terrace]

If you still struggle, borrow Ling

[scarlet mortar]

medic defenders not named saria are kind shit at tanking phys

bad move

[dapper hedge]

They do use saria tho

[vocal leaf]

but it’s e1 not mody yet

[scarlet mortar]

^

[rugged lava]

amongst *6 vanguard, who generate dp fastest now?

[elder flume]

Flametail is 13 dp in 2 frames after S2 skill activation

If you mean fastest to skill prob Ines with Bag or Vulpis

[velvet hill]

what's your best OR-8 trust farm atm?
rn I'm doing 3 op Shu Mountain CY

[scarlet fulcrum]

Do u know its 0 sanity stage

[vocal leaf]

I want to believe he meant OR-8

and 3OP for trust farm is perfect

[sly drift]

The DP order of teambuilding matter on SSS? It's not appear randomly on the stage?

[velvet hill]

OR-8 yeah
typo

[full terrace]

My OR-8 is a Wisadel carry, so 1 op

But I also farm Yu's trust

So I deploy him for stability

2 ops deployed

[haughty flower]

Waow wisadel summon burn procc tech /j

[full terrace]

Yah. So let's say you have the worst case scenario where you got 5x11 DP Sniper, thats 55 DP to deploy them all for Tactical Equipment. Ofcourse if you are lucky and got Justice Knight, Ranger and friends on first draw, you need only like 36 DP to deploy all 5 of them. Now let's say you dont care about the DP Cost and draft costly Snipers, each with 15 DP Cost. 15x5 is 75 DP to stack 5 of them.

And if you draft costlier ones, thats even worse

[scarlet mortar]

mzk skalter mud 3step

what the fuck is effort

[scarlet mortar]

the more expensive snipers are like 20+ DP

20 on average is more appropriate

[rugged lava]

if narantuya change target to attack, has the stack applied to enemy who have been attacked also gone?

[full terrace]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFAw3OhFrw8#
There you go, it should be easier to see here what the mouths/teleporters do

I optimized the video quite a bit, from 11 mins to 6 mins to 5 mins. There arent that many instances of chopsticks getting looped anymore, but it should happen in the video at least once there

Or twice

[vocal leaf]

no, the effect is permanent as long as she stays deployed and of course she’s actively stealing stats from newer enemies even when she already hit her limit

it’s really easy to notice it
with her s1, the numbers are always marked as red and they keep increasing until they hit the said limit

[elder flume]

Just a concept

Will fix later

[sly drift]

https://youtu.be/0HslHef4BBM

Mod Y logos Paired with Yu would be crazy

Logos probably can do one more cycle during Yu long ass cd

[elder flume]

20 mins of waiting and still not unit cap hm

ok its 25 mins to break it

[sly drift]

What is this exactly

[elder flume]

unit cap

when you try to go over unit cap by placing your ops you effectively are placing while not placing the op

and so this duplication happens

the chopsticks are overwhelming the unit cap

[fierce tendon]

i lost my brain reading this

[sly drift]

Is this edited, private server or terrible bug?

[elder flume]

i only play live server

you can say a bug even tho its an old one

just being recreated through more stages

[umbral escarp]

myrtle

[glass monolith]

I amazed game code survives when boss pulls all things toward him

[crystal meteor]

I need to try this

[crystal meteor]

My dream was broken when I learned that the talents don't work

[elder flume]

it doesnt count as you deploying ye

if you want actual duplication then go RA

[crystal meteor]

even the boss isnt safe from sp lockout

[pure orchid]

so its just visual?

[crystal meteor]

yes its like if you try to deploy, nothing is deployed, and instead a sprite appears on the tile.

i kinda wish bringing reedalt now

[void terrace]

Damn and here i thougjt Walter was the most broken thing in arknights

[elder flume]

Walter only break is auto rng break

shes nothing special after that

[rapid junco]

@scarlet fulcrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLrp9uTa9gw&list=RDoLrp9uTa9gw&start_radio=1

[full terrace]

Yo @wicked minnow

[wicked minnow]

yo

[full terrace]

Can your Raidian solo 6-14

I feel like she can

[wicked minnow]

let me see

[full terrace]

S3 gotta be, plenty of splodey spidey

And constant drones pressure

[wicked minnow]

huh, it looks like a stage she might be able to do

i might have to get back to you on that a bit later

[full terrace]

👍

I feel like she can solo that yea

That 6-14 is one of the hardest stages for 0 investment run

[ember warren]

does any1 remember how the blue poison talent bug works again

[glass monolith]

There is talent bug?

[elder flume]

talent gets hit with S1 atk scale

but it only applies to extra target not main

so extra dies faster due to buffed arts

[ember warren]

ah ok thx

its easiest to see with s1 on ce-5

the defender she isnt hitting dies first

[velvet hill]

why mzk or do u just not have asca

[scarlet mortar]

enemyknights

don't have ascalon but i never really aimed for her

[scarlet fulcrum]

Not really fan of dandism, but this is nice

[wicked minnow]

i worked my way from 5-2 to 6-14 just to realize there's a run of raidian soloing normal mode on arkrec already

ling can solo as well

ill try to work out an easier solution even with the solo

it's a bit tough for new players it feels

[full terrace]

Ling solo is S2 and that has terrible timing

Newbies cant copy

[wicked minnow]

is it fine if i bring along e0 units?

just to make the clear simple

[full terrace]

I'd prefer a pure solo but if DP is an issue then sure

I actually just want a proof of concept, I'd develop my own strat later on anyway 😂

[wicked minnow]

the run from arkrec https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MVumzpELN?share_source=copy_web

[full terrace]

Oh arkrec is updated? That was quick

[wicked minnow]

yeah they are quick with it

[full terrace]

I feel like I want to upload a bunch of vids there 😂

[wicked minnow]

they place raidian where she doesnt get any cold and cycle the drone in the middle to bait the cold drones, casters, and they cycle the slows

could be made a lot easier with some units but yeah she can solo

[full terrace]

How about 7-9

Can she

[wicked minnow]

no shot, i doubt she can start

scene barely can

[full terrace]

6-14 and 7-9 are my biggest concerns

If you look at my videos, they are crazy tight
So I'm still looking for stabler methods

[wicked minnow]

you get 23 dp by the time the dog is in the blue box. raidian is 10 dp and summon is 16

[full terrace]

Ones that newbies can copy easily

[wicked minnow]

raidian can definitely help but i dont think she can solo

[full terrace]

I mean I can do ≠ others cant do, esp newbies, thats my biggest concern

[full terrace]

Opening is no problem if you stall with Plume

She blocks a bit to delay the rush, then retreat her to refund all DP

Its not only the opening, that entire stage is diabolical to micromanage

Under 0 investment context I mean

Anyway

Lemmme know if Raidian managed to do it okay

[wicked minnow]

im speedrunning the main story right now

yeah just give me a bit

[full terrace]

Best of luck 🤣

[weary mirage]

How do you do this fuckass map

[maiden hound]

lgoos top lane facing left

[weary mirage]

No logos

https://krooster.com/u/yuvx

Here's my roster btw

I jist got yu and blazer

[maiden hound]

can ange do that?

or just borrow/compensate with eyja + relic

[weary mirage]

Ange hmmm, eyja i think can't tho

[glass schooner]

guys how do i do 2-9 map

[rapid junco]

Wtf
Higedan are goat tho

[scarlet fulcrum]

They are good sure yea cant deny that

[full terrace]

You borrow

[glass schooner]

nvm figured it out just needed to spam snipers and vanguard (I never use support unit cause I want auto deply)

I have such a massive skill issue in arknights that i cant even do a tutorial

[celest bluff]

Or shaw it

Probably shouldn't

[small anchor]

I'm kinda stuck on how to do JT8-3, any ideas?

[wicked minnow]

@full terrace discord is ass so lower quality

anyway that was rather easy

i got it 2nd try

i got lucky on the skill timings but we dont look at that

i was considering placing tequilla but i realized that i had raidian skill up

raidian kinda stat-checks the enemies more than anything

[glass monolith]

Are you in condition to spend 8 module blocks on gladiia? If she get her "AH take reduced physical/arts damage from all enemies" you can probably just bully Talulah with just Gladiia Ulp + some healers just to ensure Gladiia don't burn down while all other operators can be used for those 2 lanes

[smoky halo]

you want to let the top lane rubble be destroyed so the bottom lane enemies path top and it becomes a 2 lane map

bring air stun too

may s2 is the cheapest one

i wanna shill mitm for talulah since hes so broken against her 🚬

[wicked minnow]

well timed logos deletes the fireballs. should activate s3 3-5 seconds before fireball phase. ulpianus vs talulah. rest of the units should deal with the rest of the stage. there shouldnt be much struggle

try to have units hide behind logos s3 during fireball phase. and shu s3 for emergency

[small anchor]

Hm alright, guess ill do the module challenges before trying it again then.
Thanks guys.

[glass monolith]

Logos S3 is not even big must for Jt8-3, back when i did it i just congalined my placement (Amiya S1 for dodge, Chalter HP allows surviving with enough healing. Or just throw Nightingale S3 for extra salt on outdated big bad evil guy)

[haughty flower]

Waow chalter.

[glass monolith]

Sorry 2022 moment

Also one of memories of me throwing shit at boss until it works. Because before i by accident find out Chalter face can survive fireballs i was trying some cursed "Undeploy everyone for firewave then deploy back" which didn't work for DP reasons

Have i mentioned that this set up DIES if i fail to bait burn with 2 fast redeploys and failed to bait burn i did

[near folio]

That's what happens to most setups back on release day if the team didn't carry NG

Also how is Jessicat in modern content? I'm ready to be disappointed but I will still be her strongest soldier.

[wicked minnow]

she's alright but just doesnt compare to better units

she tanks well. she has a stunbomb and deals some damage which is cool but not much to her

[noble hollow]

she's reliable enough tbh, a good op i daresay, but modern standards for defenders are just insane

[wicked minnow]

uhhh

i would disagree

well

they need to do more than tank

and if they are tanking they better be invincible

actually

nvm

changed my mind

[noble hollow]

i mean high standards right

her competiton is like shu

[wicked minnow]

her competition is the rest of the game

if she deals damage, she'd be competing with the rest of the DPS lineup for damage. her damage although passable is nothing compared to better units. although her stun is good utility, it is nothing compared to shu and tagodia. although her tanking is nice, it is just not very needed in the current game enviroment

at best jessica feels cozy to use which is a plus

[glass monolith]

Endless cycle of "Why block" until we encounter some stupid bullshit which demand block

[noble hollow]

you are right

[wicked minnow]

basically. im still waiting on it

[dark mantle]

6 IS's and still no hard block requirement

[haughty flower]

Problem is Ines if invis + either Necrosis or Tragodia solves the problem unless there's like a limbillion redeploy nerf, and if that happens, Nymph.

[spark sinew]

IS when boss does 20k damage per attack

big surprise we don't block there

[lofty stag]

<@&586570970345635868>

[glass monolith]

My brain not even having response to such scams

[lofty stag]

Wow thank jelly

[void terrace]

I mean if nian cant brick it nothing can

If you really need unkillable block and the boss attacks slow dusk is a 60 second option

If she can refresh her summon fast enough

And theres no mobs around

Or just hoederer or spalter

Or double specter with some way to stall the downtime

Or good ol 9 seconds of surtr

Damn i miss surtr

They need to give her a delta mod with burn

No way they dont give her a vivi module

[vocal leaf]

you mean if hoshi s2, no would use nian over her who is far better

im thinking on is4ed2 for example

i also remember hoshi tanking the cars in ccb1 meanwhile nian just died in few secs

[remote perch]

I mean in ed2 Jessicat is better for that

[vocal leaf]

i imagine so and also more useful for the run, good thing for her is that since ammo skill and she mostly likely never gets to attack boss, it’s essentially a permanent buff, right?

[remote perch]

Yes, being Frozen makes her Ammo skill effectively perma

Hoshi isn't really the tankiest defender, just the most consistent

[glass monolith]

You remind me of Typhon bug with IS3 ending 2 She was freezing herself on knight with S3 canceling out check for ammo so she could just go -47 ammo etc

[remote perch]

[full terrace]

Nice one, this looks really stable. My Ling clear is extremely difficult to replicate so I'll definitely make a Raidian alternative later.

[full terrace]

Yah dont worry about skill timings, I just want a proof of concept, that "it can be done", cant do it myself coz Raidian is 6 months in the future 😂

[steel prairie]

are you allowed to us support Ops when trying to get mods ?

[maiden hound]

if it doesn't forbid using supports you're good

[near folio]

How is Iris performance compared to Indigo?

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5KPGgwb-I&si=DkjM1Xe1dP8una9k fulfilling youth

[frosty rock]

Okay, can someone eli5 how the Shu event annihilation is meant to work, because the stage design seems like a catch-22

[dapper hedge]

Nah

[rose patrol]

so if there's a red box even if there's unreachable tiles, yu can still tp them despite the pathing has stairs?

[frosty rock]

If an enemy dies on a valve, blight still seems to spread

[dapper hedge]

Its super easy

[maiden hound]

you got the ox enemies/range damage for that no?

also a bunch of valves

[remote perch]

separate tiles that the blight can't reach them

then use the pump to get clean water from it to the main zone

[dapper hedge]

The mobs are all going to the middle btw

So just set up a killbox there

Top left is good source of clean water you can just ignore the mobs there until they walk out

Only the water spitter walk top

The big frogs all walking down

[frosty rock]

Okay, so you pump into the front box
That was my point of confusion

Was confused on how you're meant to separate off that front bit to prevent blight spreading without having whoever's separating that just die

[scarlet mortar]

red boxes count as valid pathing, yes

stairs are just checkpoints which the enemies will return to

[rapid junco]

Wtf greeen

Idk why but I prefer kobasolo cover

[scarlet fulcrum]

Most cover impression

[rapid junco]

Nope, because the singer voice cute af

[scarlet fulcrum]

recent anime also cover some old songs i think, goat

[rapid junco]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=KMdTrqzEI0I&si=MhLraMSAm3qU8Rt4

Old dude singing

😭

[scarlet fulcrum]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=7vEp8UPHdnE&si=WjuSF9FmJA0qOvhy this cover also has cute impression

[rapid junco]

Wtf, kirn like groomer song

[scarlet fulcrum]

Very familiar

[rapid junco]

I prefer real yui

[scarlet fulcrum]

🤝

[rapid junco]

Gen hoshino
He sing for couple of nowday anime

[scarlet fulcrum]

Yeah i thought so, very familiar to my weeb ear

[dapper hedge]

YUI song in 2024 🥹